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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._M._Forster EM Forster] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Somerset_Maugham Somerset Maugham], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:968510737-121055183-f4c00283abd4-stephen-fry-bbc.jpg|thumb|Stephen Fry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; [[File:970833590-137932946-partypeople2.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Fry and husband Elliot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:249849940-684129330-96439199-14777809-It comes aft their -a-14 1748990318147.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry and husband Elliot, pictured wearing the green carnation flower, famously worn by [[Oscar Wilde]] and widely known as a symbol of hidden queer identity in Victorian culture.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:955911214-285288845-99014903-14777809-image-a-24 1748990929569.jpg|thumb|Fry and Elliot, happily married.]]&lt;br /&gt;
From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:968510737-121055183-f4c00283abd4-stephen-fry-bbc.jpg|thumb|Stephen Fry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; [[File:970833590-137932946-partypeople2.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Fry and husband Elliot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:249849940-684129330-96439199-14777809-It comes aft their -a-14 1748990318147.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry and husband Elliot, pictured wearing the green carnation flower, famously worn by [[Oscar Wilde]] and widely known as a symbol of hidden queer identity in Victorian culture.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:955911214-285288845-99014903-14777809-image-a-24 1748990929569.jpg|thumb|Fry and Elliot, happily married.]]&lt;br /&gt;
From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:968510737-121055183-f4c00283abd4-stephen-fry-bbc.jpg|thumb|Stephen Fry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; [[File:970833590-137932946-partypeople2.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Fry and husband Elliot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:249849940-684129330-96439199-14777809-It comes aft their -a-14 1748990318147.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry and husband Elliot, pictured wearing the green carnation flower, famously worn by [[Oscar Wilde]] and widely known as a symbol of hidden queer identity in Victorian culture.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:968510737-121055183-f4c00283abd4-stephen-fry-bbc.jpg|thumb|Stephen Fry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt; [[File:970833590-137932946-partypeople2.jpg|thumb|200px|left|Fry and husband Elliot.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:968510737-121055183-f4c00283abd4-stephen-fry-bbc.jpg|thumb|Stephen Fry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
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The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:968510737-121055183-f4c00283abd4-stephen-fry-bbc.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:692599381-992269821-5003514-6270791-image-m-65 1539374222921.jpg|200px|thumb|Stephen Fry (67) and his husband Elliott Spencer (37), pictured on their wedding day.]][[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
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The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;. Fry announced his engagement to the English actor and comedian &#039;&#039;&#039;Elliott Spencer&#039;&#039;&#039; at the age of 57, when his partner Elliot was 27. Years later on January 17th, 2015, at a registry office in Norfolk, the couple married when fry was 67 and Elliot 36. The couple have a 30-year-age gap.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://astyledwedding.com/decor/wedding-elliott-spencer Wedding elliott spencer: 59 photos]; Madeline Boardman, [https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/stephen-fry-to-wed-boyfriend-elliott-spencer-30-years-his-junior-201561/ Stephen Fry, 57, Confirms Wedding Plans With Boyfriend Elliott Spencer, 27: Details] (&#039;&#039;US Magazine Celebrity News&#039;&#039;, January 6, 2015).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
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The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[wikipedia:Stephen_Fry|&#039;&#039;&#039;Stephen Fry&#039;&#039;&#039;]] (born 24 August 1957), or &#039;&#039;&#039;Sir Stephen John Fry&#039;&#039;&#039; in full, is an English actor and broadcaster. In December 2006, he was ranked sixth for the BBC&#039;s Top Living Icon Award. A year later in May 2007, &#039;&#039;The Independent on Sunday&#039;&#039; Pink List named him the second most influential gay person in Britain. That same year, &#039;&#039;Broadcast magazine&#039;&#039; listed Fry at number four in its &amp;quot;Hot 100&amp;quot; list of influential on-screen performers, describing him as a polymath and a &amp;quot;national treasure&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Among many other acting credits, Fry was the original host of the comedy panel show &#039;&#039;QI&#039;&#039; (2003–2016), for which he was nominated for six British Academy Television Awards. In 2006, the British public ranked Fry number 9 in ITV&#039;s poll of TV&#039;s 50 Greatest Stars.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a public figure who appears regularly on British national television, Stephen Fry is a particularly [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|significant figure in the LGBTQ+ community]]; most notably for having been an openly gay man since the 1980s when homosexuality was highly stigmatized regardless of age. As Fry has explained in own words:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;By the time I was 13, my sexuality was a secret horror swelling inside me and I was desperately trying to find out who I was, what future there was for me.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I knew the disgrace and humiliation of gay people. [[Oscar Wilde]] had taught me that it would be a life of mockery, exile, and secrecy. And then there were those writers, like [[EM Forster]] or [[Somerset Maugham]], who held their heads up high and made me feel that it wasn’t all slime and grim mackintosh people in a terrible world of darkness,” Fry continued.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michele Theil, [https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/09/21/stephen-fry-says-being-gay-felt-like-there-was-a-horror-inside-him/ Stephen Fry says being gay felt like there was ‘a horror inside him’], &#039;&#039;Pink News&#039;&#039; (Sep 21 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry appears to have a sustained interest in pre-1970s homosexual culture, having authored 4 books about Ancient Greece which each offer a literary retelling of popular ancient myths, including [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythos_(book) &#039;&#039;Mythos&#039;&#039;] (2017), &#039;&#039;Heroes&#039;&#039; (2018), &#039;&#039;Troy&#039;&#039; (2020), and &#039;&#039;Odyssey&#039;&#039; (2024).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Stephen Fry and Age-Gap Sex==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fry has spoken out controversially at an Oxford Union event, criticizing popular attitudes on [[Age of Consent|age of consent]] laws and age-gap sex.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://fstube.net/w/e4qZ8ACuKTtqMHAzMefZXS Oxford Union, via FSTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Fry&#039;s very first public production was a play called [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Latin!_or_Tobacco_and_Boys &#039;&#039;Latin! or Tobacco and Boys&#039;&#039;] (1979), about the love affair of a boy of thirteen and a schoolmaster at a prep school. Written in 1979 and first produced at Cambridge, where Fry was then an undergraduate aged twenty-two, his play went on to win first prize at the next Edinburgh Festival Fringe. In the early 2000s, there was minor backlash over a theater company&#039;s revival of the play, led by then a local Conservative councillor James Gilchrist who branded it &amp;quot;smut&amp;quot;. Activated Image, the company behind the revival, was reportedly &amp;quot;so amused by the furore that it has posted Mr Gilchrist&#039;s criticisms on its website.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;What Stephen Fry pulls off so brilliantly is to cover this topic in a way which is not in any way shocking,&amp;quot; said artistic director Adam Barnard. &amp;quot;People have said things like, &#039;You shouldn&#039;t have paedophilia on stage because it encourages people to do that.&#039; Well, people don&#039;t say, &#039;You mustn&#039;t have Hamlet on stage because it encourages people to commit murder.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James Morrison Arts, [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/fry-under-fire-over-paedophilia-play-186150.html Fry under fire over paedophilia play] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, Sunday 28 July 2002).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In his autobiography &#039;&#039;Moab is My Washpot&#039;&#039; (1997), Fry wrote openly about his own sexual feelings and experiences in childhood. As a teenager, Fry attended the boys&#039; boarding school of Uppingham in Rutland. He described both the lust for pretty junior boys commonly expressed by their seniors, and his own seduction and defloration by an older prefect during his first year there, at age 13.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.greek-love.com/modern-europe/great-britain/boys-20th-century-boarding-school-experiences/stephen-fry-boyhood-pederasty Stephen Fry on his Boyhood], Greek Love website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At Uppingham, he explained:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You could openly admire a pretty boy, and all the middle and senior boys did. It was a sign of manliness indeed to do so.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Just ten minutes alone, me and that arse...&#039; a sixth former might say as a cute junior walked past. ‘That’s all I ask,’ he would add looking skywards in prayer.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;‘Oh no!’ One senior would clutch another as they caught sight of a comely new boy, ‘I’m in love. Save me from myself.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;I think that the logic of it was that new boys, pretty boys, were the closest approximation Uppingham offered to girls. They were hairless in the right places and sweet and cute and comely like girls, they had fluffy hair and kissable lips like girls, they had cute little bottoms like ... well, they had cute little bottoms like boys, but hell, any port in a storm, and there’s no storm like pubescence and no port like a pretty boy’s bum. All that public swooning however, was no more than macho posture. It proved their heterosexuality.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Some boys however had the most definite reputation for being queer, in the fully snarled out, spat out sense of the word as it was then used — before, that is to say, its triumphant reclamation by the proud homosexuals of today.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;greek&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in 2013, viewers complained to the BBC television network after Fry recited a limerick felt to &amp;quot;trivialize pedophilia,&amp;quot; which aired less than three minutes before a Newsnight report on the [[Jimmy Savile]] saga.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The limerick, which Fry recited as the last item of the comedy quiz show, went:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;There was a young chaplain from King&#039;s&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Who talked about God and such things;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But his real desire&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Was a boy in the choir&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;With a bottom like jelly on springs.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The BBC Trust described the event as &amp;quot;unfortunate and regrettable,&amp;quot; with the editorial standards committee ultimately ruling that the programme was not in breach of the corporation&#039;s editorial guidelines, adding: &amp;quot;[The ESC] considered this was at the margins of acceptability given the heightened sensitivities surrounding the Jimmy Savile case.&amp;quot; The ESC said that the decision to air the limerick was &amp;quot;finely balanced&amp;quot;, but concluded that most viewers would not consider the the content strong enough to link it to Newsnight&#039;s Savile report.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Josh Halliday, [https://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/aug/29/stephen-fry-paedophilia-limerick-apology-bbc Stephen Fry paedophilia limerick on QI &#039;unfortunate and regrettable&#039; - BBC] (&#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039;, Thu 29 Aug 2013).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The next year, in July of 2014, Fry faced backlash in news media after criticizing Operation Yewtree at a Labour Party conference. Reportedly, he urged the crowd to remember some of &amp;quot;the essential values which the Labour Party stands for,&amp;quot; including that &amp;quot;people are innocent until proven guilty.&amp;quot; He pointed out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false allegations. After citing Magna Carta, the 799-year-old foundation of British constitutional rights, Fry said that &amp;quot;fewer than half&amp;quot; of the people held under Yewtree had been found guilty – before identifying  Sir Keir Starmer in the audience for criticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2690864/YOU-ARE-WRONG-MR-FRY-Comedian-condemned-campaigners-rant-attacking-sex-abuse-inquiry.html Stephen Fry faces a furious backlash after attacking Operation Yewtree] (&#039;&#039;Daily Mail&#039;&#039;, 2014).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; From the vantage point of 2025, singling out Kier Starmer was arguably correct. He would later become the Prime Minister of the UK in 2024, becoming infamous and widely reviled for overseeing the passage of the &amp;quot;Online Safety Act&amp;quot; (OSA), one of the most sweeping and authoritarian pieces of legislation ever passed in world history.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 2016, Fry faced backlash after appearing on the Rubin Report, hosted by conservative talk-show host Dave Rubin. In the final segment of his appearance, Fry criticized the hypersensitivity of educational institutions towards past works of literature and art dealing with currently taboo or sensitive subjects - e.g. rape, killing, and racism - suggesting that such people should &amp;quot;grow up&amp;quot; and stop pitying themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJQHakkViPo On Political Correctness and Clear Thinking | Stephen Fry | COMEDY | Rubin Report] (Youtube, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He argued:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;One fears that the advances of the enlightenment are being systematically and deliberately pushed back on. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Life is complicated, and nobody wants to believe that life is complicated. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I suppose you might call it the infantilism of our culture. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; They want to be told [what to think] ... This is &#039;good&#039;, this is &#039;bad&#039;. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;And on student campuses... There are many great plays which contain rapes, and the word rape now is even considered a rape. It has in an interesting Latin root. &#039;&#039;[... Of course,]&#039;&#039; they&#039;re terrible things, &#039;&#039;[but]&#039;&#039; they have to be thought about clearly.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;But if you say you can&#039;t watch this play, you can&#039;t watch Titus Andronichus - you can&#039;t read it in a Shakespeare class - you can&#039;t read Macbeth because it’s got children being killed in it, and it might trigger something when you were young that upset you once, because your uncle touched you in a nasty place.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Well, I&#039;m sorry. It&#039;s a great shame, and we&#039;re all very sorry that your uncle touched you in that nasty place. You get some of my sympathy. But your self pity gets none of my sympathy, because self-pity is the ugliest emotion in humanity. Get rid of it, because no one&#039;s going to like you if you feel sorry for yourself.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Rubin replied &amp;quot;I love that!&amp;quot;, before ending the show. After a media frenzy ensued, Fry publicly &amp;quot;apologized unreservedly&amp;quot; for his comments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/stephen-fry-apologises-unreservedly-for-claiming-sex-abuse-survivors-should-grow-up-and-stop-pitying-themselves-a6983651.html Stephen Fry Apologizes Unreservedly] (&#039;&#039;The Independent&#039;&#039;, 2016).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From [[Oscar Wilde]] to other &#039;classic&#039; writers in the gay canon, it is clear that many of Fry&#039;s stated inspirational figures are those who also happened to write sympathetically on - and in some cases participated in - [[pederasty]]. This is unsurprising since, as historians such as [[Kadji Amin]] and [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have argued, [[pederasty]] was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the 1950s. Fry&#039;s own intimate knowledge of classic literature on these themes can be gleamed from an anecdote involving [[Vladimir Nabokov]]&#039;s famous novel [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;], appearing in the acknowledgements section of historian Nicholas Basannavar&#039;s 2019 PhD thesis. While Basannavar&#039;s specious arguments about [[PIE]] have received critique from the organization&#039;s most well-known Chairperson [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For O&#039;Carroll&#039;s response, see [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-023-10135-6 Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar. Palgrave Macmillan. 2021. ISBN 978-3-030-83147-9. Sexuality &amp;amp; Culture 28, 918–928]. (Journal link).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alternate source:[https://rdcu.be/dmgYh Commentary on the Book Entitled Sexual Violence Against Children in Britain Since 1965: Trailing Abuse by Nick Basannavar.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039; and Stephen Fry Basannavar wrote that, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A snatched ten minute chat with Stephen Fry (during which we recited the opening lines of Lolita to each other) gave the project	a strange but compelling impetus at	a key moment.&#039;&#039; (p. 4).&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: British]][[Category:People: Artists and Poets]][[Category:People: Popular Authors]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: British]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: Personal Scandals]][[Category:Gay]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__The &#039;&#039;&#039;Uranians&#039;&#039;&#039; were a relatively obscure group of largely British and American [[Pederasty|pederastic]] poets, which flourished between 1880 and 1930. The group&#039;s name derives, in part, from the Platonic theory of &amp;quot;heavenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Uranian&amp;quot; pederasty (see Plato&#039;s &#039;&#039;Symposium&#039;&#039;). Uranian poetry was characterized by a sentimental infatuation for pubescent (or nearly pubescent) boys, and by a use of conservative verse forms. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Uranian writer John Addington Symonds is credited with being the 1st person to use the term &amp;quot;homosexual&amp;quot; in the English-language, in his book &#039;&#039;A Problem in Greek Ethics&#039;&#039; (1873/1901). This same book was the also the first to use the term &amp;quot;boy-love&amp;quot; to refer to homosexuality. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gambril_Nicholson John Gambril Nicholson]&#039;s first book of poems &#039;&#039;Love in Earnest&#039;&#039; (1892), attracted the notice of John Addington Symonds and other Uranian poets. It is believed to have contributed to the use of &#039;&#039;earnest&#039;&#039; as a coded term for homosexuality among Uranians, and some scholars have speculated that [[Oscar Wilde]] exploited this allusion in his 1895 play [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Importance_of_Being_Earnest &#039;&#039;The Importance of Being Earnest&#039;&#039;].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McKenna, Neil (2005). &#039;&#039;The Secret Life of Oscar Wilde&#039;&#039;. Basic Books.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Uranians writers include William Johnson, [[Lord Alfred Douglas]] (1870-1945), [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gambril_Nicholson John Gambril Nicholson] (1886-1931), [[Edwin Emmanuel Bradford]] (1860-1944), Fabian S. Woodley, John Leslie Barford (1886-1937), George Cecil Ives (1867-1950), Charles Philip Castle Kains Jackson (1857-1933), Edmund John (1883-1917), Edward Cracroft Lefroy (1855-1891), Francis Edwin Murray (1854-1932), and several other pseudonymous authors such as &amp;quot;Philebus&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A. Newman&amp;quot;. Marginally associated with their world were more famous writers such as [[Oscar Wilde]], Edward Carpenter, Gerard Manley Hopkins and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc-Andr%C3%A9_Raffalovich Marc-André Raffalovich] (1864-1934),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Raffalovich is mentioned in our page on [[Eric Gill]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; as well as the obscure but prophetic poet-printer [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Ralph_Nicholas_Chubb Ralph Nicholas Chubb] (1892-1960), whom celebrated the boy as an Ideal, &amp;quot;Boy God&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Divine Androgyne&amp;quot;, by creating highly elaborate lithographed books over 30 years. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The flamboyantly eccentric novelist [[Baron_Corvo|Frederick Rolfe]] (also known as &amp;quot;Baron Corvo&amp;quot;) was a unifying presence in their social network. The fame of their work was limited by late Victorian and Edwardian taboos, and by the extremely small editions (often privately printed) in which their verse was promulgated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]] - is credited to the American Uranian poet [[Edward Mark Slocum]]. Likewise, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Irenaeus_Prime-Stevenson Edward Prime-Stevenson], best known for writing what is sometimes described as the first explicitly gay American novel - &#039;&#039;Imre&#039;&#039; (1906) - had &amp;quot;sought to provide a comprehensive and sympathetic treatment of homosexuality, or what [...] he called &amp;quot;Uranianism.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023, p. 1). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Prime-Stevenson published his nearly 650-page cultural and historical study of homosexuality titled &#039;&#039;The Intersexes: A History of Similisexualism as a Problem in Social Life&#039;&#039;, in 1908 under the penname Xavier Mayne.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Professor of English Eric L. Tribunella, wrote in 2023: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;In a long chapter of The Intersexes on the “aesthetic professions,” Stevenson provides a survey of homosexual writers and literary works from ancient Greece to the present and, remarkably, includes a section on homosexual juvenile fiction, perhaps the first such attempt to identify a body of gay children’s literature in English. Stevenson was also one of the first writers to take seriously the possibility and value of homosexual children, whom he called “young Uranians,” as opposed to his contemporaries, who saw homosexual activity or desire in children as evidence of temporary or disordered perversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prof. Tribunella includes Eduard Bertz, Howard Sturgis, Horace Vachell, [[Horatio Alger]] and Stevenson himself, among his list of Uranian poets. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Michael Matthew Kaylor]]&#039;s scholarly work has contributed significantly to the understanding of Uranian poets and poetry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warren Johansson]]. &amp;quot;[https://web.archive.org/web/20140301204714/http://www.glbtq.com/literature/uranian_poets.html Uranian poets]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;glbtq: An Encyclopedia of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer Culture&#039;&#039;, ed. Claude J. Summers (Chicago, 2002).&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Uranian_poetry BoyWiki] - Further information and reading list.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranian_poetry Wikipedia] - Another article on the Uranians.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20220628030933/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Early_Uranians:_Cory,_Dolben,_Hopkins Early Uranians: Cory, Dolben, Hopkins] &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_-Wa7SIsAQgAC Secreted desires : the major Uranians - Hopkins, Pater and Wilde] by Kaylor, Michael Matthew (2006) (see the [https://web.archive.org/web/20200812234251/http://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Review book&#039;s review] by [[Richard Yuill]] )&lt;br /&gt;
*Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: British]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: American]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 19th C]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1900s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1910s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1920s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1930s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__The &#039;&#039;&#039;Uranians&#039;&#039;&#039; were a relatively obscure group of largely British and American [[Pederasty|pederastic]] poets, which flourished between 1880 and 1930. The group&#039;s name derives, in part, from the Platonic theory of &amp;quot;heavenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Uranian&amp;quot; pederasty (see Plato&#039;s &#039;&#039;Symposium&#039;&#039;). Uranian poetry was characterized by a sentimental infatuation for pubescent (or nearly pubescent) boys, and by a use of conservative verse forms. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Uranian writer John Addington Symonds is credited with being the 1st person to use the term &amp;quot;homosexual&amp;quot; in the English-language, in his book &#039;&#039;A Problem in Greek Ethics&#039;&#039; (1873/1901). This same book was the also the first to use the term &amp;quot;boy-love&amp;quot; to refer to homosexuality. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gambril_Nicholson John Gambril Nicholson]&#039;s first book of poems &#039;&#039;Love in Earnest&#039;&#039; (1892), attracted the notice of John Addington Symonds and other Uranian poets. It is believed to have contributed to the use of &#039;&#039;earnest&#039;&#039; as a coded term for homosexuality among Uranians, and some scholars have speculated that [[Oscar Wilde]] exploited this allusion in his 1895 play &#039;&#039;The Importance of Being Earnest&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McKenna, Neil (2005). &#039;&#039;The Secret Life of Oscar Wilde&#039;&#039;. Basic Books.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Uranians writers include William Johnson, [[Lord Alfred Douglas]] (1870-1945), [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gambril_Nicholson John Gambril Nicholson] (1886-1931), [[Edwin Emmanuel Bradford]] (1860-1944), Fabian S. Woodley, John Leslie Barford (1886-1937), George Cecil Ives (1867-1950), Charles Philip Castle Kains Jackson (1857-1933), Edmund John (1883-1917), Edward Cracroft Lefroy (1855-1891), Francis Edwin Murray (1854-1932), and several other pseudonymous authors such as &amp;quot;Philebus&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;A. Newman&amp;quot;. Marginally associated with their world were more famous writers such as [[Oscar Wilde]], Edward Carpenter, Gerard Manley Hopkins and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc-Andr%C3%A9_Raffalovich Marc-André Raffalovich] (1864-1934),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Raffalovich is mentioned in our page on [[Eric Gill]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; as well as the obscure but prophetic poet-printer [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Ralph_Nicholas_Chubb Ralph Nicholas Chubb] (1892-1960), whom celebrated the boy as an Ideal, &amp;quot;Boy God&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Divine Androgyne&amp;quot;, by creating highly elaborate lithographed books over 30 years. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The flamboyantly eccentric novelist [[Baron_Corvo|Frederick Rolfe]] (also known as &amp;quot;Baron Corvo&amp;quot;) was a unifying presence in their social network. The fame of their work was limited by late Victorian and Edwardian taboos, and by the extremely small editions (often privately printed) in which their verse was promulgated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]] - is credited to the American Uranian poet [[Edward Mark Slocum]]. Likewise, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Irenaeus_Prime-Stevenson Edward Prime-Stevenson], best known for writing what is sometimes described as the first explicitly gay American novel - &#039;&#039;Imre&#039;&#039; (1906) - had &amp;quot;sought to provide a comprehensive and sympathetic treatment of homosexuality, or what [...] he called &amp;quot;Uranianism.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023, p. 1). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Prime-Stevenson published his nearly 650-page cultural and historical study of homosexuality titled &#039;&#039;The Intersexes: A History of Similisexualism as a Problem in Social Life&#039;&#039;, in 1908 under the penname Xavier Mayne.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Professor of English Eric L. Tribunella, wrote in 2023: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;In a long chapter of The Intersexes on the “aesthetic professions,” Stevenson provides a survey of homosexual writers and literary works from ancient Greece to the present and, remarkably, includes a section on homosexual juvenile fiction, perhaps the first such attempt to identify a body of gay children’s literature in English. Stevenson was also one of the first writers to take seriously the possibility and value of homosexual children, whom he called “young Uranians,” as opposed to his contemporaries, who saw homosexual activity or desire in children as evidence of temporary or disordered perversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prof. Tribunella includes Eduard Bertz, Howard Sturgis, Horace Vachell, [[Horatio Alger]] and Stevenson himself, among his list of Uranian poets. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Michael Matthew Kaylor]]&#039;s scholarly work has contributed significantly to the understanding of Uranian poets and poetry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warren Johansson]]. &amp;quot;[https://web.archive.org/web/20140301204714/http://www.glbtq.com/literature/uranian_poets.html Uranian poets]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;glbtq: An Encyclopedia of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer Culture&#039;&#039;, ed. Claude J. Summers (Chicago, 2002).&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Uranian_poetry BoyWiki] - Further information and reading list.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranian_poetry Wikipedia] - Another article on the Uranians.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20220628030933/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Early_Uranians:_Cory,_Dolben,_Hopkins Early Uranians: Cory, Dolben, Hopkins] &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_-Wa7SIsAQgAC Secreted desires : the major Uranians - Hopkins, Pater and Wilde] by Kaylor, Michael Matthew (2006) (see the [https://web.archive.org/web/20200812234251/http://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Review book&#039;s review] by [[Richard Yuill]] )&lt;br /&gt;
*Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: British]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: American]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 19th C]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1900s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1910s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1920s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1930s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Pederasty</title>
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&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__{{MAI}}&#039;&#039;&#039;Pederasty&#039;&#039;&#039; (from Greek &#039;&#039;paiderastia&#039;&#039;, love of boys) is used for:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ol&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   the ancient Greek aristocratic custom of loving mentoring relationships between men and teen-age boys, sexualized or chaste;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   similar customs in other places and times by way of generalisation ;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
   male [[Homosexuality]] in general (and occasionally anal intercourse with either sex). This usage dominates in the 15&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;–20&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; centuries. It replaced the older term Sodomy to avoid its religious connotations. &lt;br /&gt;
 &amp;lt;/li&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ol&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Intergenerational Lesbianism|Korephilia]]&#039;&#039;&#039; is sometimes used to describe a lesbian equivalent of pederasty.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Erastoconservatism|Erastoconservatives]] seek to promote or restore what they see as traditional, usually mentorship pederasty.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== History ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The original form of pederasty was a culturally sanctioned relationship in Ancient Greece in which a mentor and a pupil would be bonded into a relationship of mutual love, in which the erotic attraction of the [[boy]] was an important factor. The custom was commonplace in most Greek cities of the time, when intergenerational man/boy relationships were employed to benefit the community. The relationships were valued for giving rise to strong friendships which were thought valuable to democracies in particular. They were also highly valued for the educational benefits to the youth, and also for their positive effect on the problem of overpopulation, which was keenly felt in many cities at that time. The custom was reflected in several popular myths and legends, most notably that of Zeus and Ganymede. Greek society had sexual values which allowed pederasty to proliferate, such as the veneration of small over large penises, and admiration for the toned male physique lacking in visible fat.&lt;br /&gt;
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The theory and practice of pederasty was carried on into Roman times, and remained commonplace for centuries in varying forms. &amp;quot;According to [[Kadji Amin]],&amp;quot; wrote the historian [[Rachel Hope Cleves]], “modern pederasty,” which he defines as age-differentiated sex, was the dominant form of male same-sex practice until the mid-twentieth century.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, [https://annas-archive.org/md5/4fb01d8582cb462bf79d0cf28a43bf00 &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039;] (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 6.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It has been argued that &amp;quot;pederasty was defeated by the invention of pedophilia&amp;quot;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Roger Moody]], (1981). &#039;Man/boy love and the Left&#039;, in [[The_Age_Taboo|&#039;&#039;The Age Taboo: Gay Male Sexuality, Power and Consent&#039;&#039;]], ed. by Daniel Tsang (Alyson Publications: Boston, and Gay Men&#039;s Press: London), pp. 147-155 (p. 148).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with Cleves arguing similarly that: &amp;quot;During the late 1980s and 1990s, the figure of the monstrous pedophile took center stage in the cultural imagination of English-speaking countries, entirely replacing the earlier ambivalent figure of the pederast. The pedophile, or child sexual predator, was the subject of sex crime panics on both sides of the Atlantic.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(&#039;&#039;Unspeakable&#039;&#039;, 2020), p. 278.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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An important note is that one did not need to have been primarily [[Pedophilia|pedophilic]] in orientation to practice pederasty. Not only did the term [[pedophilia]] not exist until the 20th century, and only came into widespread use during the 1970s and 80s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991]. [Thesis].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but pederastic culture and relationships typically involved pubescent or post-pubescent young people, not pre-pubescent children as with pedophiles. More recent categories of [[Chronophilia]] would classify pederasty as [[Hebephilia]] and [[Ephebophilia]], the latter of which takes its name from the term &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Ephebe&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; - a word commonly found in classic pederastic writings. In Ancient Greece, man/boy relationships were a cultural mainstay, practiced by the majority of upper class adult males at the time. Throughout history, pederasty was an accepted sexual norm in times and places as diverse as Ancient Celts,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Naucrati&#039;s Athenaeum in the Deipnosophistsai (XIII, 603a) states that the Celtic people, despite the extreme beauty of their women, far prefer boys: some regularly slept on their animal skins with an adolescent lover to their right and another on their left side, although some interpret it instead as “they had a handsome boy on one side and a woman on the other” (Hubbard, 2003, p. 79). Other authors also attest to Celtic pederasty, including Aristotle (Politics, II 6.6), Strabo (IV, 4, 6) and Diodorus Siculus (V, 32).&lt;br /&gt;
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The Sibylline Oracles say that only the Jews were free from such an impurity: &amp;quot;The Jews are aware of the sacred marriage bond, they do not engage in unholy relations with their sons, as do the Phoenicians, the Egyptians and the Romans, the Greeks, the Persians and the Galatians, who transgress the holy law of the immortal God&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Imperial Russia,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Mediaeval Russia was known for its benevolent tolerance of homosexuality and its widespread spread within society, and pederasty was also very common: the beardless young man was seen as a viable alternative to women and cutting his beard was intended for men as an explicit request to enter into a relationship. [...] Banyas, traditional bathhouses-saunas, in particular, were the favourite places where men went to have sex with teenage boys, especially those who worked inside them as attendants.&#039;&#039; Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20150203020828/http://english.gay.ru/life/history/queermoscow/1600-1861TraditionalMasculinitiesAndLoveBetweenMen.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Medieval Korea,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Paul Michaut, a French doctor, wrote in 1893 that the Korea he has just arrived is a country where &amp;quot;pederasty is generalised, it is part of the customs. It is practised publicly, on the street, without the slightest reprobation&amp;quot; Source: Proschan, Frank &amp;quot;Syphilis, Opiomania, and Pederasty&amp;quot;: Colonial Constructions of Vietnamese (and French) Social Diseases, in &#039;&#039;Journal of the History of Sexuality&#039;&#039; — Volume 11, Number 4, October 2002, pp. 610–636.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;One of the first known mentions of male attraction towards boys concerns King Gongmin (1330-1374) who became famous for the ease with which he fell in love with young males: after the death of his wife in 1365 he spent the remaining years of his life practising Buddhism with fervour and in love-sentimental relationships with children.&#039;&#039; - [https://archive.ph/o/GBr23/www.utopia-asia.com/korlife2.htm Source].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Renaissance Florence,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael Rocke, [https://annas-archive.org/md5/ac0dab2ba53be8a3a5b6d8967749d7b7 &#039;&#039;Forbidden Friendships: Homosexuality and Male Culture in Renaissance Florence&#039;&#039;] (Oxford University Press, 1998).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; North American natives such as the Koniagas and Thinkleets tribes of Kodiak Island,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In a Western report concerning the Koniagas and Thinkleets tribes of Kodiak Island we read that “the most repulsive of all their practises is that of male concubinage. The mother will select the most beautiful and temperamentally arranged among her children and begin to dress and raise him as a girl, teaching him only domestic duties and keeping him constantly in the company of women alone, in order to make his effeminacy complete.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Then he continues: &amp;quot;at the age of puberty, between the ages of 10 and 15 he will be married to a rich man, who will hold his new partner in high regard and as an honourable achievement. These male concubines are called Achnutschik or Schopans. The same happens in the Aleutian Islands where male concubines always have a carefully shaved beard and the face is tattooed/putted-on-make-up like that of women. In California the first missionaries who arrived there found the same practice and the interested teenagers are called Joya here&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Source: (Bancroft, i. 415 and authorities Palon, Crespi, Boscana, Motras, Torquemada, Duflot and Fages). ([[Sir_Richard_Burton|Richard F. Burton]], Terminal Essay).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and the South American Mayans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;For traditional Mayan culture, the introduction of pederasty is attributed to the god Chin; it was not so uncommon for a man to try to get a younger male lover of his son when he grew up left his father&#039;s house. The European Dominican friar Juan de Torquemada states, in his inquisitorial provisions that &amp;quot;if the youngest boy has been seduced by a stranger, the penalty to be imposed must be equivalent to that for adultery&amp;quot;; while the conquistador Bernal Díaz del Castillo claims to have seen inside the temples of Cape Catoche in Yucatán statues depicting young male couples engaged in conspicuous sexual acts&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;. - Source: Pete Sigal, &amp;quot;The Politicization of Pederasty among the Colonial Yucatecan Maya&amp;quot; in &#039;&#039;Journal of the History of Sexuality&#039;&#039;, Vol. 8, No. 1 (Jul., 1997), pp. 1-24. [https://www.jstor.org/stable/3704486 Journal link]. [https://sci-hub.zidianzhan.net/10.2307/3704486 Sci-hub link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Historians including Christian Laes,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. &#039;&#039;Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften&#039;&#039;, 28(3), 49–70].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christian Laes, &#039;&#039;Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2011).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, &#039;&#039;Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press,  2014)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christian Laes, &#039;Children and Sexuality: Roman World&#039;, in: Julia M. O&#039;Brian (ed.), &#039;&#039;Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies&#039;&#039; (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Andrew Lear]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, &#039;&#039;Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God&#039;&#039; (Routledge, 2008)].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Andrew Lear, &#039;Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View&#039;, in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), &#039;&#039;Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World&#039;&#039; (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, &#039;&#039;Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates&#039;&#039; (2004, PhD Thesis)].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Thomas Hubbard]], Beert C. Verstraete,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of &#039;The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece&#039;, &#039;&#039;Bryn Mawr Classical Review&#039;&#039;, 3. Nov. 2009].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[William Percy]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; William A. Percy III. [https://web.archive.org/web/20200926145823/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/images/Sexual_Revolution.pdf  Sexual Revolution 600 B.C.- 400 A.D.: The Origins of Institutionalized Pederasty in Greece], in: Wayne R. Dynes (Ed.) [https://web.archive.org/web/20210127132148/http://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Wayne_R._Dynes#Studies_in_Homosexuality Studies of Homosexuality], Vol 1: Ancient World, 1992&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.&lt;br /&gt;
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Newgon has detailed pages on Pederasty in Islam and Japan, linked below.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Culture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Another important thing to regard is the labels of homosexual vs. heterosexual did not apply to practices in pre-modern times. Some cultures today still shed different light as to their opinions regarding male/male sexual relations. In particular, one article cites the sexual relations of adolescent boys in Swaziland. The practice is seen as &amp;quot;becoming a man&amp;quot;. In recent years, western labels and ideals have been bleeding into the culture, causing conflict and resulting in declined male/male sexual practice.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Some boys passed into manhood and got married but now and then they still need some man&#039;s wood to remain pure men,&amp;quot; says Mr Bhokondvo Nkosi, a Maths teacher of Emagogeni high school. &amp;quot;The difference before the western influence is that it was ok to practice this type&#039;s of sexuality and now most African parents are considering it as &#039;homosexuality&#039; as it is labelled and therefore it is regarded as a silly influence from the civilised countries and as a western disease.&amp;quot; (From the article &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;Amantanyula&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; by Ishi)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the Victorian era did the label of becoming purely &amp;quot;homosexual&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;heterosexual&amp;quot; come into foundation.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Pederasty in Islam]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pederasty in Japanese culture]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Boylove]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ephebophilia]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pedophilia]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Homosexuality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Uranian_Poetry|The Uranians]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thomas Hubbard]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Karl Andersson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Norman Douglas]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Pederastic_relationships_in_history_-_Post-antiquity_to_present Pederastic relationships in history: Post-antiquity to present] - List of historically documented examples.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://greek-love.com Greek Love] - Definitive collection of literature.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Pederasty BoyWiki] - Pederasty.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the importation of mandatory &amp;quot;this is sexual abuse&amp;quot; disclaimers, [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]] actually has some very good articles on Pederasty, and we would encourage you to read them. For comparison, see [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=4428265&amp;amp;title=Pederasty this archive] of Wikipedia&#039;s &amp;quot;Pederasty&amp;quot; article in 2004.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pederasty&amp;amp;oldid=899561860 Pederasty (old revision)]&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece In Ancient Greece]&lt;br /&gt;
**[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_ancient_Rome In Rome]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;George Gordon Byron&#039;&#039;&#039;, 6th Baron Byron (born 22 January 1788 – died 19 April 1824), known simply as &#039;&#039;&#039;Lord Byron&#039;&#039;&#039;, was an English romantic poet and peer. He was one of the leading figures of the Romantic movement, and has been regarded as among the greatest of English poets. Among his best-known works are the lengthy narratives &#039;&#039;Don Juan&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Childe Harold&#039;s Pilgrimage&#039;&#039;. Described by Goethe as “undoubtedly the greatest genius of our century,” Byron was attracted to both young males and females.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cromption (1985)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Crompton L. (1985). &#039;&#039;Byron and Greek Love: Homophobia in 19th Century England&#039;&#039;. University of California Press.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; covers his relationships with young boys in detail. Bullough (1990)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bullough V.L. (1990). “History in adult human sexual behavior with children and adolescents in Western societies”, in &#039;&#039;[https://library.lol/main/3CA15750CD7EC06C3052B55B5E16C76D Pedophilia: Biosocial Dimensions]&#039;&#039; (Jay R. Feierman, ed.). New York: Springer-Verlag Publishers&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, p. 72 summarizes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;George Gordon Byron [1788-1824], or Lord Byron, was attached to Nicolò Giraud, a young French-Greek lad who had been a model for the painter Lusieri before Byron found him. Byron left him 7,000 pounds in his will. When Byron returned to Italy, he became involved with a number of boys in Venice but eventually settled on Loukas Chalandritsanos, age 15, who was with him when he was killed (Crompton, 1985).&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Lord Byron fell in love with Nicolò Giraud in 1810, when the boy was 15.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eisler, Benita. &#039;&#039;Byron: Child of Passion, Fool of Fame&#039;&#039;, Vintage Books USA, May 2000.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;It is about two hours since, that, after informing me he was most desirous to follow him (that is me) over the world, he concluded by telling me it was proper for us not only to live, but &#039;morire insieme&#039;. The latter I hope to avoid - as much of the former as he pleases.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Byron in his letter to John Cam Hobhouse - &#039;&#039;The Convent&#039;&#039;, Athens, August 23rd, 1810.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Byron wrote to a friend that he and the boy were having anal sex (in code, &amp;quot;the Pl. &amp;amp; opt. C.&amp;quot; short for &amp;quot;coitum plenum et optabilem&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Fiona MacCarthy, &#039;&#039;Byron: Life and Legend&#039;&#039;, p.128.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Byron’s &#039;&#039;To Ianthe&#039;&#039; is an effusive paean to the beauty of an a 11-year-old female, with whom he was enamored (MacCarthy, 2014)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MacCarthy F. (2014). &#039;&#039;Byron: Life and Legend&#039;&#039;. Hodder &amp;amp; Stoughton.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Charlotte &#039;&#039;[Harley]&#039;&#039;, at eleven, was at the age of promise which most moved him, the child on the edge of puberty.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;He became temporarily obsessed with Charlotte just as, a few months later, he was fleetingly besotted with his ‘petite cousine’, seven-year-old, black-eyed, black-haired Eliza Byron, plotting to buy toys for her and take her to the theatre. Lady Oxford’s daughter Charlotte is the subject of the famous and much anthologised five stanzas ‘To Ianthe’, fragile flower of the narcissus. He addresses her as his ‘Young Peri of the West!’ In these stanzas, published as a preface to the seventh edition of Childe Harold, Byron celebrates the girl’s evasive charm and addresses the painful ambiguities of their relationship:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;‘Oh! let that eye, which, wild as the Gazelle’s,&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Now brightly bold or beautifully shy,&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Wins as it wanders, dazzles where it dwells,&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Glance o’er this page; nor to my verse deny&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;That smile for which my breast might vainly sigh,&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Could I to thee be ever more than friend:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;This much, dear maid, accord; nor question why&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;To one so young my strain I would commend,&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;But bid me with my wreath one matchless lily&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;blend.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Byron arranged for Richard Westall to paint Lady Charlotte’s portrait, suggesting that John Murray, in the new edition, could use an engraving taken from the picture of ‘the pretty little girl’ Murray had seen the other day. In a further act of revenge on Lady Caroline he gave the child as playthings the rings she once gave Byron, including the wedding ring she ordered for herself from a Bond Street jeweller, insisting that Byron should place it on her finger. In reporting this black comedy to Lady Melbourne he confided his tendresse for Lady Charlotte, ‘whom I should love forever if she could always be only eleven years old — &amp;amp; whom I shall probably marry when she is old enough &amp;amp; bad enough to be made into a modern wife’.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;At Eywood he acted out the fantasy of educating Charlotte Harley as the future Lady Byron, supplanting her mother as tutor, laughingly imaging himself as poor duped Moody, the middle-aged character in Garrick’s The Country Girl whose designs on his young ward, brought up in rural innocence, misfire when she outwits and abandons him. Byrons concentrated sessions à deux as Lady Charlotte’s tutor evidently went too far. One of Lady Byron’s separation statements reads: ‘He told me that at the time of his connextion with Lady O she detected him one day in an attempt upon her daughter, then a Child of thirteen, &amp;amp; was enraged with him to the greatest degree.’&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;How seriously should we take this accusation? Lady Byron’s statements, assembled to build up the case against her husband, have a note of hysterical vindictiveness. This particular statement was one of those dictated to Mrs Clermont, her one-time governess and her close ally, whose malevolence towards Byron was not conducive to accuracy. In this statement, for example, Lady Charlotte’s age is given as thirteen when in fact it was eleven. Though there are many signs in Byron’s history of his predilection for young girls there is no evidence of sexual attacks on them. &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; Nevertheless, amongst the curious collection of Byron’s trophies and mementoes in the John Murray archive, two small packets contain samples of Lady Charlotte Harley’s nut brown hair.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Byron also fell in love with 12-year-old [[Wikipedia:Maid_of_Athens,_ere_we_part_%28George_Byron%29|Teresa Macri]], for whom he wrote the poem &#039;&#039;Maid of Athens&#039;&#039; (Marchand, 2013, pp. 79-80)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Marchand L. (2013). &#039;&#039;Byron: A Portrait&#039;&#039;. Random House.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;There was frequent dancing and much buffoonery at the Macri House, where his increasing interest in the youngest of the “three graces,” Theresa (“12 years old but quite ‘nubila,’” Hobhouse noted), made it possible for him to close the account of the emotional strain of his love for Constance Spencer Smith: “The spell is broke, the charm is flown!”&#039;&#039; […]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Parting from Theresa gave him a curious pang It may have been on the eve of his departure that he wrote, or at least began, his now famous lines:&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Maid of Athens, ere we part,&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Give, oh give me back my heart!&#039;&#039; […]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The line, “By that lip I long to taste,” suggests that his relations with Theresa had been, if not Platonic, at least in the realm of longing rather than of possession.”&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Byron considered taking Macri with him, but the mother’s price was too high (Marchand, 1973, p. 46)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Marchand L., ed. (1973). “Famous in My Time”: 1810-1812. Harvard University Press.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;: “I was near bringing away Theresa, but the mother asked 30,000 piastres!”&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[William Blake]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Oscar Wilde]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lord Alfred Douglas]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Charles Dodgson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Norman Douglas]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[W.H. Hudson]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[J.M. Barrie]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[T. H. White]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Ruskin]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Eric Gill]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[M. P. Shiel]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mark Twain]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Uranian Poetry]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Artists and Poets]][[Category:People: British]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:Art]][[Category: People: Historical minor-attracted figures]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 19th C]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: British]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Prue</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Uranian_Poetry&amp;diff=34474</id>
		<title>Uranian Poetry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Uranian_Poetry&amp;diff=34474"/>
		<updated>2026-05-29T22:59:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Prue: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__The &#039;&#039;&#039;Uranians&#039;&#039;&#039; were a relatively obscure group of largely British and American [[Pederasty|pederastic]] poets, which flourished between 1880 and 1930. The group&#039;s name derives, in part, from the Platonic theory of &amp;quot;heavenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Uranian&amp;quot; pederasty (see Plato&#039;s &#039;&#039;Symposium&#039;&#039;). Uranian poetry was characterized by a sentimental infatuation for pubescent (or nearly pubescent) boys, and by a use of conservative verse forms. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Uranian writer John Addington Symonds is credited with being the 1st person to use the term &amp;quot;homosexual&amp;quot; in the English-language, in his book &#039;&#039;A Problem in Greek Ethics&#039;&#039; (1873/1901). This same book was the also the first to use the term &amp;quot;boy-love&amp;quot; to refer to homosexuality.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these Uranians were William Johnson, [[Lord Alfred Douglas]] (1870-1945), John Gambril Nicholson (1886-1931), [[Edwin Emmanuel Bradford]] (1860-1944), George Cecil Ives (1867-1950), and [[John Addington Symonds]] (1840-1892). Marginally associated with their world were more famous writers such as [[Oscar Wilde]] and others. The flamboyantly eccentric novelist [[Baron_Corvo|Frederick Rolfe]] (also known as &amp;quot;Baron Corvo&amp;quot;) was a unifying presence in their social network. The fame of their work was limited by late Victorian and Edwardian taboos, and by the extremely small editions (often privately printed) in which their verse was promulgated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]] - is credited to the American Uranian poet [[Edward Mark Slocum]]. Likewise, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Irenaeus_Prime-Stevenson Edward Prime-Stevenson], best known for writing what is sometimes described as the first explicitly gay American novel - &#039;&#039;Imre&#039;&#039; (1906) - had &amp;quot;sought to provide a comprehensive and sympathetic treatment of homosexuality, or what [...] he called &amp;quot;Uranianism.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023, p. 1). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Prime-Stevenson published his nearly 650-page cultural and historical study of homosexuality titled &#039;&#039;The Intersexes: A History of Similisexualism as a Problem in Social Life&#039;&#039;, in 1908 under the penname Xavier Mayne.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Professor of English Eric L. Tribunella, wrote in 2023: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;In a long chapter of The Intersexes on the “aesthetic professions,” Stevenson provides a survey of homosexual writers and literary works from ancient Greece to the present and, remarkably, includes a section on homosexual juvenile fiction, perhaps the first such attempt to identify a body of gay children’s literature in English. Stevenson was also one of the first writers to take seriously the possibility and value of homosexual children, whom he called “young Uranians,” as opposed to his contemporaries, who saw homosexual activity or desire in children as evidence of temporary or disordered perversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prof. Tribunella includes Eduard Bertz, Howard Sturgis, Horace Vachell, [[Horatio Alger]] and Stevenson himself, among his list of Uranian poets. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Michael Matthew Kaylor]]&#039;s scholarly work has contributed significantly to the understanding of Uranian poets and poetry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warren Johansson]]. &amp;quot;[https://web.archive.org/web/20140301204714/http://www.glbtq.com/literature/uranian_poets.html Uranian poets]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;glbtq: An Encyclopedia of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer Culture&#039;&#039;, ed. Claude J. Summers (Chicago, 2002).&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Uranian_poetry BoyWiki] - Further information and reading list.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranian_poetry Wikipedia] - Another article on the Uranians.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20220628030933/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Early_Uranians:_Cory,_Dolben,_Hopkins Early Uranians: Cory, Dolben, Hopkins] &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_-Wa7SIsAQgAC Secreted desires : the major Uranians - Hopkins, Pater and Wilde] by Kaylor, Michael Matthew (2006) (see the [https://web.archive.org/web/20200812234251/http://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Review book&#039;s review] by [[Richard Yuill]] )&lt;br /&gt;
*Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: British]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: American]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 19th C]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1900s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1910s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1920s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1930s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Prue</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Uranian_Poetry&amp;diff=34473</id>
		<title>Uranian Poetry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Uranian_Poetry&amp;diff=34473"/>
		<updated>2026-05-29T22:58:07Z</updated>

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&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__The &#039;&#039;&#039;Uranians&#039;&#039;&#039; were a relatively obscure group of largely British and American [[Pederasty|pederastic]] poets, which flourished between 1880 and 1930. The group&#039;s name derives, in part, from the Platonic theory of &amp;quot;heavenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Uranian&amp;quot; pederasty (see Plato&#039;s &#039;&#039;Symposium&#039;&#039;). Uranian poetry was characterized by a sentimental infatuation for pubescent (or nearly pubescent) boys, and by a use of conservative verse forms. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Uranian writer John Addington Symonds is credited with being the 1st person to use the term &amp;quot;homosexual&amp;quot; in the English-language, in his book &#039;&#039;A Problem in Greek Ethics&#039;&#039; (1873/1901). This same book was the also the first to use the term &amp;quot;boy-love&amp;quot; to refer to homosexuality.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these Uranians were William Johnson, [[Lord Alfred Douglas]] (1870-1945), John Gambril Nicholson (1886-1931), [[Edwin Emmanuel Bradford]] (1860-1944), George Cecil Ives (1867-1950), and [[John Addington Symonds]] (1840-1892). Marginally associated with their world were more famous writers such as [[Oscar Wilde]] and others. The flamboyantly eccentric novelist [[Frederick Rolfe]] (also known as &amp;quot;Baron Corvo&amp;quot;) was a unifying presence in their social network. The fame of their work was limited by late Victorian and Edwardian taboos, and by the extremely small editions (often privately printed) in which their verse was promulgated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]] - is credited to the American Uranian poet [[Edward Mark Slocum]]. Likewise, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Irenaeus_Prime-Stevenson Edward Prime-Stevenson], best known for writing what is sometimes described as the first explicitly gay American novel - &#039;&#039;Imre&#039;&#039; (1906) - had &amp;quot;sought to provide a comprehensive and sympathetic treatment of homosexuality, or what [...] he called &amp;quot;Uranianism.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023, p. 1). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Prime-Stevenson published his nearly 650-page cultural and historical study of homosexuality titled &#039;&#039;The Intersexes: A History of Similisexualism as a Problem in Social Life&#039;&#039;, in 1908 under the penname Xavier Mayne.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Professor of English Eric L. Tribunella, wrote in 2023: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;In a long chapter of The Intersexes on the “aesthetic professions,” Stevenson provides a survey of homosexual writers and literary works from ancient Greece to the present and, remarkably, includes a section on homosexual juvenile fiction, perhaps the first such attempt to identify a body of gay children’s literature in English. Stevenson was also one of the first writers to take seriously the possibility and value of homosexual children, whom he called “young Uranians,” as opposed to his contemporaries, who saw homosexual activity or desire in children as evidence of temporary or disordered perversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prof. Tribunella includes Eduard Bertz, Howard Sturgis, Horace Vachell, [[Horatio Alger]] and Stevenson himself, among his list of Uranian poets. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Michael Matthew Kaylor]]&#039;s scholarly work has contributed significantly to the understanding of Uranian poets and poetry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warren Johansson]]. &amp;quot;[https://web.archive.org/web/20140301204714/http://www.glbtq.com/literature/uranian_poets.html Uranian poets]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;glbtq: An Encyclopedia of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer Culture&#039;&#039;, ed. Claude J. Summers (Chicago, 2002).&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Uranian_poetry BoyWiki] - Further information and reading list.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranian_poetry Wikipedia] - Another article on the Uranians.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20220628030933/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Early_Uranians:_Cory,_Dolben,_Hopkins Early Uranians: Cory, Dolben, Hopkins] &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_-Wa7SIsAQgAC Secreted desires : the major Uranians - Hopkins, Pater and Wilde] by Kaylor, Michael Matthew (2006) (see the [https://web.archive.org/web/20200812234251/http://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Review book&#039;s review] by [[Richard Yuill]] )&lt;br /&gt;
*Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: British]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: American]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 19th C]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1900s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1910s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1920s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1930s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Prue</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Uranian_Poetry&amp;diff=34472</id>
		<title>Uranian Poetry</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Uranian_Poetry&amp;diff=34472"/>
		<updated>2026-05-29T22:56:54Z</updated>

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&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;__NOTOC__The &#039;&#039;&#039;Uranians&#039;&#039;&#039; were a relatively obscure group of largely British and American [[Pederasty|pederastic]] poets, which flourished between 1880 and 1930. The group&#039;s name derives, in part, from the Platonic theory of &amp;quot;heavenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Uranian&amp;quot; pederasty (see Plato&#039;s &#039;&#039;Symposium&#039;&#039;). Uranian poetry was characterized by a sentimental infatuation for pubescent (or nearly pubescent) boys, and by a use of conservative verse forms. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Uranian writer John Addington Symonds is credited with being the 1st person to use the term &amp;quot;homosexual&amp;quot; in the English-language, in his book &#039;&#039;A Problem in Greek Ethics&#039;&#039; (1873/1901). This same book was the also the first to use the term &amp;quot;boy-love&amp;quot; to refer to homosexuality.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of these Uranians were William Johnson, [[Lord Alfred Douglas]] (1870-1945), John Gambril Nicholson (1886-1931), [[Edwin Emmanuel Bradford]] (1860-1944), George Cecil Ives (1867-1950), and [[John Addington Symonds]] (1840-1892). Marginally associated with their world were more famous writers such as [[Oscar Wilde]] and others. The flamboyantly eccentric novelist [[Frederick Rolfe]] (also known as &amp;quot;Baron Corvo&amp;quot;) was a unifying presence in their social network. The fame of their work was limited by late Victorian and Edwardian taboos, and by the extremely small editions (often privately printed) in which their verse was promulgated.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The first anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]] - is credited to the American Uranian poet [[Edward Mark Slocum]]. Likewise, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Irenaeus_Prime-Stevenson Edward Prime-Stevenson], best known for writing what is sometimes described as the first explicitly gay American novel - &#039;&#039;Imre&#039;&#039; (1906) - had &amp;quot;sought to provide a comprehensive and sympathetic treatment of homosexuality, or what [...] he called &amp;quot;Uranianism.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023, p. 1). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Prime-Stevenson published his nearly 650-page cultural and historical study of homosexuality titled &#039;&#039;The Intersexes: A History of Similisexualism as a Problem in Social Life&#039;&#039;, in 1908 under the penname Xavier Mayne.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Professor of English Eric L. Tribunella, wrote in 2023: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;In a long chapter of The Intersexes on the “aesthetic professions,” Stevenson provides a survey of homosexual writers and literary works from ancient Greece to the present and, remarkably, includes a section on homosexual juvenile fiction, perhaps the first such attempt to identify a body of gay children’s literature in English.2 Stevenson was also one of the first writers to take seriously the possibility and value of homosexual children, whom he called “young Uranians,” as opposed to his contemporaries, who saw homosexual activity or desire in children as evidence of temporary or disordered perversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Prof. Tribunella includes Eduard Bertz, Howard Sturgis, Horace Vachell, [[Horatio Alger]] and Stevenson himself, among his list of Uranian poets. Prof. [[Michael Matthew Kaylor]]&#039;s scholarly work has also contributed significantly to the understanding of Uranian poets and poetry.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warren Johansson]]. &amp;quot;[https://web.archive.org/web/20140301204714/http://www.glbtq.com/literature/uranian_poets.html Uranian poets]&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;glbtq: An Encyclopedia of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, and Queer Culture&#039;&#039;, ed. Claude J. Summers (Chicago, 2002).&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Uranian_poetry BoyWiki] - Further information and reading list.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranian_poetry Wikipedia] - Another article on the Uranians.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20220628030933/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Early_Uranians:_Cory,_Dolben,_Hopkins Early Uranians: Cory, Dolben, Hopkins] &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://archive.org/details/bub_gb_-Wa7SIsAQgAC Secreted desires : the major Uranians - Hopkins, Pater and Wilde] by Kaylor, Michael Matthew (2006) (see the [https://web.archive.org/web/20200812234251/http://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Review book&#039;s review] by [[Richard Yuill]] )&lt;br /&gt;
*Eric L. Tribunella, &#039;&#039;Male Homosexuality in Children&#039;s Literature, 1867–1918: The Young Uranians&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York / Oxford, 2023). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/093db5310cd609ec1af5a01360180862 Annas Archive PDF Link]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: British]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: American]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 19th C]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1900s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1910s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1920s]][[Category:History &amp;amp; Events: 1930s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Prue</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Feminism&amp;diff=34461</id>
		<title>Feminism</title>
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		<updated>2026-05-18T13:31:56Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__&#039;&#039;&#039;Feminism&#039;&#039;&#039; is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality|equality]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Nina Power]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally &amp;quot;abusive&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; 2020; Taylor&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News &amp;amp; Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, &amp;amp; Sex Crimes’]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; 2018).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Aya Gruber, &#039;&#039;The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women&#039;s Liberation in Mass Incarceration&#039;&#039; (University of California Press, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, etc.).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Amia Srinivasan, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_to_Sex &#039;&#039;The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century&#039;&#039;] (Bloomsbury, 2021), pp. 170-71. [See [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1583018.htm quote on Boychat]]. [See [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/cb5d9c5ddef6afa61be6949bdac044d2 Annas Archive for PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women&#039;s magazine &#039;&#039;Off Our Backs&#039;&#039; [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. For a well-read and articulate feminist critique of common [[pro-c]] arguments, see the work of Sheila Jeffreys.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See ‘PAEDOPHILIA’, in &#039;&#039;Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution&#039;&#039; (1990), pp. 134-149.; CHAPTER 5 The Paedophile Liberation Movement, in &#039;&#039;Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women&#039;s Subordination&#039;&#039; (2022).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Reasons for loathing of &amp;quot;feminism&amp;quot; among MAPs==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A number of reasons can be speculatively offered:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onwards, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary feminists.&lt;br /&gt;
* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception that this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.&lt;br /&gt;
* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.&lt;br /&gt;
* Failure of feminists to identify with or even tentatively address issues related to masculinity. Prof. [[John P. De Cecco]] argued that identity [[Wikipedia:Essentialism|essentialist]] feminists &amp;quot;are jealous of men who show the kind of nurturance that only females are supposed to posses&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:John_de_cecco_paidika_issue_3_interview.pdf De Cecco Paidika interview (1987)] - (Archived PDF copy).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism (&amp;quot;feminazi&amp;quot;, etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority.&lt;br /&gt;
* Attempts by feminists to represent (gay) youth and encourage their &amp;quot;rights&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;participation&amp;quot; whilst at the same time [[Ageism|infantalizing]] them and denying their autonomy.&lt;br /&gt;
* Alliances between radical feminists (TERFs/SWERFs) and violently anti-pedophile ideologies - particularly those of the right. These alliances have been rejuvenated after the [[MAP Movement]] achieved basic visibility in the 2020s.&lt;br /&gt;
* Plain misogyny.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst many of these grievances may have more than a firm foothold in reality, it can certainly be said that their airing has done little good for the cause of [[boylove]] or MAPs in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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===MAP-Exclusionary Radical Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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A solution to the MAP/Feminism paradox might be to define a group of radical feminists who are particularly hostile towards MAPs, or motivated by hate. For example, in setting out care guidelines for survivors of CSA, [[UNICEF]] states &amp;quot;incest and &#039;&#039;&#039;paedophilia&#039;&#039;&#039; are forms of child sexual abuse shaped and perpetuated by patriarchal systems and harmful masculine ideologies&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.unicef.org/media/155226/file/CCS%20Guidelines%20Final%20.pdf CARING FOR CHILD SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ABUSE GUIDELINES (2nd Ed)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (our emphasis), referencing Kelly and Lusk&#039;s 1992 &amp;quot;theories of pedophilia&amp;quot;. This would be a clear use of feminist ideology to attack or malign an [[pedophilia|identity group]] or sexual orientation.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pro-choice/pro-youth Feminism reading list==&lt;br /&gt;
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As mentioned earlier on, some contrary examples exist. A few potential starting points follow:&lt;br /&gt;
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===1st-wave Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Emma Goldman|Emma Goldman]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipedia states that Emma Goldman (June 27, 1869 – May 14, 1940) was an anarchist political activist and writer. She played a pivotal role in the development of anarchist political philosophy in North America and Europe in the first half of the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;When the child reaches adolescence, it meets, added to the home and school restrictions, with a vast amount of hard traditions of social morality. The cravings of love and sex are met with absolute ignorance by the majority of parents, who consider it as something indecent and improper, something disgraceful, almost criminal, to be suppressed and fought like some terrible disease. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Some will ask, what about weak natures, must they not be protected? Yes, but to be able to do that, it will be necessary to realize that education of children is not synonymous with herdlike drilling and training. If education should really mean anything at all, it must insist upon the free growth and development of the innate forces and tendencies of the child.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Emma Goldman&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;The Child and Its Enemies&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Mother Earth&#039;&#039;, Vol. 1: No. 2 (April 1906).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-the-child-and-its-enemies Emma Goldman, &#039;The Child and Its Enemies&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Mother Earth&#039;&#039;, Vol. 1: No. 2 (April 1906)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2nd-wave Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Simone de Beauvoir|Simone de Beauvoir]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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Beauvoir was a highly influential French public intellectual and a leading voice of 2nd wave feminism. She was a communist, existentialist, feminist author, interested in understanding and overcoming limitations on human freedom (what existentialists call living in “Bad Faith”).  In the West, Beauvoir is best known for her life-long unconventional partnership with existentialist philosopher [[Wikipedia:Jean-Paul Sartre|Jean-Paul Sartre]], as well as her book “[[Wikipedia:The Second Sex|The Second Sex]]” (1949), often considered the starting inspiration point of second-wave feminism and a foundational text for social constructionist theories of gender, with its famous line: “one is not born, but rather, becomes a woman”. Beauvoir was one of the signatories of the [[Wikipedia:French petition against age of consent laws|French petition]] calling to abolish age of consent laws. Below we quote from scholarship below which explains her theories on childhood, and her sexual relationships with her young students. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;In Beauvoir’s ongoing project to explore the possibility of moral freedom, childhood is repeatedly pinpointed as the moment when the greatest failure can occur. The child remains within the adult as a haunting, ‘dutiful’ presence of the past; furthering the situating fact of birth, childhood sets limitations for the individual. Children are born with a certain body, and within certain sociopolitical and cultural conditions; both condition the emergence of their subjectivity. For Beauvoir, early childhood experiences wound children by instilling in them a belief in essentialism and in unquestionable authorities. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; In childhood, one is kept under the illusion, carefully created by adults, that universal moral principles exist.&#039;&#039; (p. 332). &#039;&#039;With astonishment, revolt and disrespect the child little by little asks himself, “Why must I act that way? What good is it? And what will happen if I act another way?” He discovers his subjectivity; he discovers that of others.’ (Beauvoir, Ethics of Ambiguity, 39). Teenage crisis, for Beauvoir, is precisely the shock of finding one’s questions unanswered, of having to accept one’s subjectivity and one’s potential independence from arbitrary adult prescriptions. By questioning the world, teenagers can extract themselves from the behaviours of bad faith encouraged by the ready-made judgements of their families and educators&#039;&#039; (pp. 335-336). &#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[C]&#039;&#039;hildhood itself becomes a space of &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; conflict between what is and what could be. Inquisitive, dissatisfied, suspicious: the child, for Beauvoir, embodies the fugitive vision that one can have of freedom and transcendence even as one is carefully conditioned to engage in bad faith. Her portrayal of childhood thus exacerbates a central tension of existentialism: the individual aspiration towards the future, clashing against a quickly solidifying situation&#039;&#039; (p. 336).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Clémentine Beauvais&#039;&#039;&#039;, ‘Simone de Beauvoir and the Ambiguity of Childhood’, in &#039;&#039;Paragraph&#039;&#039;, 38:3 (2015), 329–346.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://doi.org/10.3366/para.2015.0171 Clémentine Beauvais, ‘Simone de Beauvoir and the Ambiguity of Childhood’, in &#039;&#039;Paragraph&#039;&#039;, 38:3 (2015), 329–346.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/44016387 Beauvais - Jstor]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Beauvoir&#039;s posthumously published journals and letters from 1939-41 reveal that she engaged in sexual affairs with students and former students from her philosophy classes; she often led them to her hotel room to tutor them in philosophy and, eventually, take them to bed.&#039;&#039; (p. 149)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Margaret A. Simons&#039;&#039;&#039;, ‘Lesbian Connections: Simone de Beauvoir and Feminism&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Signs&#039;&#039;, 18:1 (Autumn, 1992), 136-161.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/3174730 Margaret A. Simons, ‘Lesbian Connections: Simone de Beauvoir and Feminism&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Signs&#039;&#039;, 18:1 (Autumn, 1992), 136-161.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Shulamith Firestone|Shulamith Firestone]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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*Chapter 4 - &#039;Down With Childhood&#039;, in &#039;&#039;The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution&#039;&#039; (New York: Bantam Books, 1970).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/8F6A64276692ED9B5B5C1EE7EB9A2AD6 Chapter 4 - &#039;Down With Childhood&#039;, in &#039;&#039;The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution&#039;&#039; (New York: Bantam Books, 1970).]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Ohad Zehavi discusses Firestone&#039;s philosophy which sees &#039;childhood as hell&#039;, writing that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;According to Firestone, &amp;quot;sex forms a class division, but so does age. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Children, according to Firestone, are an oppressed group just like women: ‘children of every class are lower-class, just as women have always been’. This oppression is brought about not only by the vast segregation of children, primarily (but not exclusively) by means of the education system, but also by children’s economic dependency, by their constant subjection to external authority and by their overall disenfranchisement. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; For Firestone both femininity and childhood are fabricated, constructed myths, and since both myths serve as bases for oppressive social regimes they both should – and could – be eradicated. As a result we would no longer recognise a person as man or woman, adult or child, thus ‘clearing the way for a fully “human” condition’&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Ohad Zehavi&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;Becoming-woman, becoming-child: A joint political programme&#039; (pp. 242-243) in &#039;&#039;Feminism and the Politics of Childhood: Friends or Foes?&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ohad Zehavi, &#039;Becoming-woman, becoming-child: A joint political programme&#039;, in &#039;&#039;[http://library.lol/main/47E131B6508AC06DDBCBF4DC998AAE77 Feminism and the Politics of Childhood: Friends or Foes?]&#039;&#039;, ed. by Rachel Rosen and Katherine Twamley (London: UCL Press, 2018), pp. 241-256.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Germaine Greer|Germaine Greer]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1975, she wrote of the experience of one of her school friends: &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Sexual intercourse between grown men and little girls is automatically termed rape under most codes of law. It does not matter whether the child invites it or even whether she seduces the adult; he and he only is guilty of a felony. From the child’s point of view and from the commonsense point of view, there is an enormous difference between intercourse with a willing little girl and the forcible penetration of the small vagina of a terrified child. One woman I know enjoyed sex with her uncle all through her childhood, and never realized that anything was unusual until she went away to school. What disturbed her then was not what her uncle had done but the attitude of her teachers and the school psychiatrist. They assumed that she must have been traumatized and disgusted and therefore in need of very special help. In order to capitulate to their expectation, she began to fake symptoms she did not feel, until at length she began to feel truly guilty for not having felt guilty. She ended up judging herself quite harshly for this innate lechery&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Germaine Greer&#039;&#039;&#039;, [https://id.annas-archive.org/md5/9f290ff3e162eb802847c462e7e022a3 &#039;Seduction is a Four-Letter Word&#039;], in [[LeRoy G. Schultz]], &#039;&#039;Rape Victimology&#039;&#039;, ed. by Shultz (Charles C. Thomas Publishers: Springfield, Illinois, U.S.A. 1975), p. 377.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Also quoted in social worker Thomas D. Oellerich&#039;s scholarship. E.g. Oellerich, Thomas D. (2000), &amp;quot;[https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s12119-000-1027-3 Rind, Tromovitch, and Bauserman: Politically Incorrect - Scientifically Correct]&amp;quot;, Sexuality and Culture, 4 (2): 67–81&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;A woman of taste is a pederast — boys rather than men.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Germaine Greer&#039;&#039;&#039;, from archived interview (2003).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20080203035904/http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s946782.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When asked about her book, &#039;&#039;The Beautiful Boy&#039;&#039;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.ipce.info/imo-archive/books/beautiful.pdf &#039;&#039;The Beautiful Boy&#039;&#039; (London: Thames &amp;amp; Hudson, 2003) - Ipce PDF]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Greer replies:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;It&#039;s part of the joy of life is admiring the beauty of things that are beautiful. What is important to me about the Boy is that once upon a time his beauty was understood and celebrated by people of both sexes. A boy was allowed to dress in very bright colours, he was allowed to show himself off in the street, he dyed his hair, he wore make-up, &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; he wore tight pants and cropped jackets and so on. And the girls looked down from behind their jalousie and talked about the best-looking boys. Now, that&#039;s still evident in rock culture, where a lot of it is just straight sexual display.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[Interviewer]: &#039;&#039;You said that one of the things that attracts you about boys was &amp;quot;semen that runs like tap water.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[Greer]: &#039;&#039;That&#039;s not such a bad idea, is it girls? &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I mean, the recharge time is remarkably short, which is a good thing. If what you want is a high level of excitement&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Greer also defended a UK female teacher, Helen Goddard, who had a [[Intergenerational_Lesbianism|lesbian affair]] instigated by a 15-year old female student at her school. She wrote: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;So how old was she? How old was he? I don’t know and I don’t very much care. I know I’m supposed to care. I’m supposed to think that falling in love with people under the legal age of [[consent]] is evidence of deep perversion and vileness, but I don’t. Young people shouldn’t fall in love, you wish they wouldn’t, and yet they do, very often with someone rather older than they. The results are nearly always catastrophic, whether the love is returned or denied. When an old friend of mine was still a schoolboy, he climbed into the bed of his guardian, who he adored. His appalled guardian threw him out of the house. He swallowed rat-poison. I’m not supposed to talk about Helen Goddard’s victim as her lover. She’s not supposed to be capable of being anybody’s lover. She’s still not 16. She has tried to take the blame, she had admitted that it was she who first kissed Goddard, but it makes no odds. As a 15-year-old she was incapable of consent, let alone of seduction. In Shakespeare’s play of star-crossed love, we are told repeatedly that Juliet is 14. We don’t know how old Romeo is. There’s nothing to say he isn’t 27, like Helen Goddard. Yet it is Juliet who instigates the affair and precipitates the clandestine marriage and its consummation. And as for deceiving one’s parents, you can’t go a wholer hog than Juliet did. In a sane society lovers are protected from mutual self-immolation; in a crazy one they are driven to it.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Germaine Greer&#039;&#039;&#039;, in ‘Jazz Lady’s affair was foolish not evil; Falling for a minor is not evidence of perversion or vileness, says Germaine Greer’, &#039;&#039;The Times&#039;&#039; (London), September 23rd, 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Kate Millett|Kate Millett]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Part of the patriarchal family structure involves the control of the sexual life of children; indeed, the control of children totally. Children &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; have no money which, in a money-economy, is one of the most important sources of their oppression. Certainly, one of children’s essential rights is to express themselves sexually, probably primarily with each other but with adults as well. &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; The problem here is that &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; cross-generational relationships take place in a situation of inequality. Children are in a very precarious position when they enter into relationships with adults, not only in a concrete material sense but emotionally as well, because their personhood is not acknowledged in our society. &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; Of course, these relationships can be non-exploitative and, considering the circumstances, they are probably heroic and very wonderful; but we have to admit they can be exploitative as well&#039;&#039; (p. 83).  &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;What is really at issue is children’s rights and not, as it has been formulated up to now, merely the right of sexual access to children. &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; I would like to see a broader movement involving young people who would be making the decisions because it’s their issue and their fight.&#039;&#039; (pp. 84-85).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Kate Millett&#039;&#039;&#039;, Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children: An Interview with Kate Millett by Mark Blasius, in &#039;&#039;Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia&#039;&#039;, ed. by Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz, 2:8 (1992 {1980}), pp. 83-86.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20220319015646/https://www.brongersma.info/images/Paidika8.pdf Kate Millett, Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children: An Interview with Kate Millett by Mark Blasius, in &#039;&#039;Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia&#039;&#039;, ed. by Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz, 2:8 (1992 {1980}), pp. 83-86.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Sex itself is presented as a crime to children. It is how adults control children, how they forbid them sexuality &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Despite the degree of sexual activity that actually goes on among children, I think adults have been all too effective, not only in poisoning sexuality but also in preventing children from understanding or experiencing it.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; (p. 218). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;he rhetoric and practice that surrounds children has abjured them since infancy to chastity. &amp;quot;Don&#039;t touch yourself there, that&#039;s nasty.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; here is a little person who has been told that one whole section of the body has a crime attached to it. Imagine, &amp;quot;Never, never look at your left hand.&amp;quot; It seems silly to children, of course, but power and force is conveyed by the phrase, &amp;quot;that&#039;s awful,&amp;quot; principally because it is not explained. And the explanation that &amp;quot;it&#039;s dirty&amp;quot;? Well, thinks the child, obviously it isn&#039;t; I&#039;ve taken a bath. What do they mean, it&#039;s dirty? So the taboo, because of its irrationality and mysterious quality, is yet more harmful. It attacks the whole system of mental confidence and reason itself.&#039;&#039; (p. 219).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Parental policing of young females is the one great, unexamined oppression, not only in their lives but in our own as adult women. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Considering its possibilities, sexuality has been very effectively policed. Control works in stopping the behavior; where it doesn&#039;t work, it succeeds still because there is so much guilt; so much shame for whatever sexual activity does take place; so much fear of discovery that when sexually active children are discovered, squelched, and separated, control succeeds.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Since sexuality was forbidden knowledge, contraception is also forbidden, unfortunately; the culprits can become victims &#039;&#039;[of unwanted pregnancy]&#039;&#039; as well. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Adults create this pool of ignorance - and that is what it is: ignorance forced upon a group of young people, not innocence.&#039;&#039; (p. 220).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Intergenerational sex could perhaps in the future be a wonderful opportunity for understanding between human beings. But conditions between adults and children preclude any sexual relationship that is not in some sense exploitative. This is not actually the fault of the adults involved, but of the entire social structure. To succeed, a relationship needs an egalitarian space and a balance between the two partners which it cannot by virtue of society have.” &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; It is difficult therefore to imagine the sexual emancipation of children without coming to understand how necessary are other forms of emancipation as well, all parts of progressive social change in years to come. That children have autonomy - that they do not belong to their biological parents, that they have a right to money, to a choice in where they live, that they are not property, that they are not slaves, that they belong to themselves - is a most revolutionary idea.&#039;&#039; (pp. 222-223).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Kate Millett&#039;&#039;&#039;, Beyond Politics? Children and Sexuality, in &#039;&#039;Pleasure and Danger: Exploring Female Sexuality&#039;&#039;, ed. by Carole S. Vance, 2nd edn., (London: Routledge &amp;amp; Kegan Paul, 1992 {1984}), pp. 217–224.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/2CD4B6F851238A755DF8658453624FF0 Kate Millett, Beyond Politics? Children and Sexuality, in &#039;&#039;Pleasure and Danger: Exploring Female Sexuality&#039;&#039;, ed. by Carole S. Vance, 2nd edn., (London: Routledge &amp;amp; Kegan Paul, 1992 {1984}), pp. 217–224.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Andrea Dworkin|Andrea Dworkin]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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Editors: Most surprisingly, as MAP activist [[Roger Moody]] pointed out (1986), Dworkin made supportive statements in her 1st published book &#039;&#039;Woman Hating&#039;&#039; (1974), in which she also supports the practice of incest and bestiality&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Woman-Hating-A-Radical-Look-at-Sexuality-1974.pdf &#039;&#039;&#039;Andrea Dworkin&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1974). &#039;&#039;Woman Hating: A Radical Look at Sexuality&#039;&#039; (E.P. Dutton: Boston, Massachusetts)]. For example, Dworkin wrote: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The parent-child relationship is primarily erotic because all human relationships are primarily erotic. The incest taboo is a particularized form of repression, one which functions as the bulwark of all the other repressions. The incest taboo ensures that however free we become, we never become genuinely free. The incest taboo, because it denies us essential fulfillment with the parents whom we love with our primary energy, forces us to internalize those parents and constantly seek them, or seek to negate them, in the minds, bodies, and hearts of other humans who are not our parents and never will be.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The incest taboo does the worst work of the culture: it teaches us the mechanisms o f repressing and internalizing erotic feeling — it forces us to develop those mechanisms in the first place; it forces us to particularize sexual feeling, so that it congeals into a need for a particular sexual “object” ; it demands that we place the nuclear family above the human family. The destruction o f the incest taboo is essential to the development of cooperative human community based on the free-flow of natural androgynous eroticism.&amp;quot; (p. 189).&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;In contemporary society relationships between people and other animals often reflect the sadomasochistic complexion of human relationship. Animals in our culture are often badly abused, the objects of violence and cruelty, the foil of repressed and therefore very dangerous human sexuality. Some animals, like horses and big dogs, become surrogate cocks, symbols of ideal macho virility. Needless to say, in androgynous community, human and other-animal relationships would become more explicitly erotic, and that eroticism would not degenerate into abuse.&amp;quot; (p. 188).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in a future &amp;quot;androgynous&amp;quot; society, before turning militantly against age-disparate eroticism in later years. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;As for children, they too are erotic beings, closer to androgyny than the adults who oppress them. Children are fully capable of participating in community, and have every right to live out their own erotic impulses. In androgynous community, those impulses would retain a high degree of non-specificity and would no doubt show the rest of us the way into sexual self-realization. The distinctions between “children” and “adults,” and the social institutions which enforce those distinctions, would disappear as androgynous community develops.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Andrea Dworkin&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1974). &#039;&#039;Woman Hating: A Radical Look at Sexuality&#039;&#039; (E.P. Dutton: Boston, Massachusetts), p. 192.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Children cannot be wholly self-determining as long as factors like parental unemployment, poverty, or homelessness force them into prostitution or pornography. And they cannot exercise satisfactory self-determination without adequate sex education. Women and homosexuals, as well as children and child-lovers, are oppressed by the view that procreational sex is the only erotic activity that rates the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; But this view cannot survive the economic pressure for fewer children and the technocracy&#039;s demand for less, but better educated workers.&#039;&#039; (p. 114). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Beatrice Faust&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1986). &#039;The paedophiles&#039;, in [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]], ed. by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://library.lol/main/D3E65600BCD53F898EE99AEBF6BCBC24 Faust, B. (1986). &#039;The paedophiles&#039;, in &#039;&#039;The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;, Edited by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;he so-called Sexual Revolution, and the emergence of the Women&#039;s Liberation Movement from the New Left, is a serendipitous experiment: women were given strong permissions to enjoy sex with the same frequency and on the same terms as men, and they rejected the notion, retreating into lesbianism, radical celibacy, puritanism and traditionally feminine models of sex. Even at the outset of the so-called sexual revolution, boys began intercourse earlier than girls and found sexual activity more satisfying &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; Girls mature physically before boys but boys seek sexual knowledge and experience earlier and more actively than girls (cruising). This being so, it seems that a uniform age of consent law for both sexes and/or an age of consent law that does not allow for the possibility of a consensual relationship will be discriminatory against boys and damaging for some children of both sexes. The Netherlands provides a model that avoids this risk.&#039;&#039; (p. 83). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Beatrice Faust&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1995). &amp;quot;Child sexuality and age of consent laws: The Netherlands model.&amp;quot; Australasian Gay and Lesbian Law Journal, 5, pp. 78-85.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Media:(1995) Faust - Child Sexuality and AOC - The Netherlands Model.pdf|Beatrice Faust, (1995). &amp;quot;Child sexuality and age of consent laws: The Netherlands model.&amp;quot; Australasian Gay and Lesbian Law Journal, 5, pp. 78-85.]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Stevi Jackson]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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[A] &#039;&#039;great deal of effort is spent in keeping children childish. Not being encouraged towards independence, they remain dependent; unused to looking after themselves, they stay vulnerable; having their smallest needs fulfilled by adults, they are often unable to perform simple tasks well within their capabilities. Children are frequently sent to school unable to dress themselves at an age when, in other societies and in earlier days of our own, they would be beginning to make a real contribution to the life and work of their community. If a child expresses interest in adult affairs or engages in adult pursuits it is thought unusual, even extraordinary. Children who behave like adults are regarded as at best amusing and at worst thoroughly obnoxious. If we were not so interested in nurturing immaturity, would the word &#039;precocious&#039; have become an insult?&#039;&#039; (p. 27). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The activities and interests of children in other societies may contrast sharply with our ideas of what is natural or appropriate for them. We would find it strange for a boy of six or seven to be preoccupied with financial provision for his marriage, yet this is considered natural among the Tallensi. We would not expect a child of this age to be making a real contribution to the economic survival of the community, yet this is commonplace in many simpler societies. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; It is unusual for five-year-olds in our society to be fully aware of the facts of human sex and reproduction, but elsewhere this is normal.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Despite all the different forms of childhood that exist throughout the world, our society might be singled out as distinctly odd&#039;&#039;  (p. 29). &lt;br /&gt;
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[...] &#039;&#039;Given the connections between the status of women and children, the ideas of the women&#039;s liberation movement should help us to raise questions about the status of children and the adult power wielded over them, and to consider the possibility of redefining their sexuality. It is because we keep children dependent, vulnerable and asexual that women come to share these qualities. It is because only the male sex learns to break free from these bonds that men become more autonomous than women. It is because male autonomy is associated with power and aggression that men maintain control over women and that the need is created to &#039;protect&#039; women and children. We need to question whether our apparent concern for children, our protectiveness I towards them, is just a subtle form of oppression, as it is with women.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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[...] &#039;&#039;I will now commit the final heresy by stating clearly my belief that we do more harm than good in enforcing sexual ignorance on children. In attempting to protect children from sex we expose them to danger, in trying to preserve their innocence we expose them to guilt. In keeping both sexes asexual, and then training them to become sexual in different ways, we perpetuate sexual inequality, exploitation and oppression.&#039;&#039; (p. 180). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Stevi Jackson&#039;&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;Childhood and Sexuality&#039;&#039; (Basil Blackwell: Oxford, 1982).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:1982_Jackson_Childhood_and_Sexuality.pdf Childhood and Sexuality] (click for archived PDF)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Resisting Anti-Porn Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Some feminist thought supportive of intergenerational rights came during what anthropologist [[Gayle Rubin]] called &amp;quot;The Feminist Sex Wars,&amp;quot; where sex-positive feminists (e.g. Strossen&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/1073402 Strossen 1993]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,; Echols&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://doi.org/10.2307/466453 Echols, 1983]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) resisted attempts to legally define all pornography as tantamount to rape (see [[Debate_Guide:_Porn_is_the_theory,_rape_is_its_practise|&amp;quot;Porn is the theory, rape is its practise&amp;quot;]] and West&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828376 West, 1987]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Linz et al.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828377 Linz, 1987]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Schauer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828378 Schauer, 1987]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://openyls.law.yale.edu/handle/20.500.13051/7029 Fischel, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) and prohibit/criminalize sex work (such feminists are now called &amp;quot;SWERFs&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SWERF)  SWERF - Wiktionary]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) under the banner of &amp;quot;feminism.&amp;quot; Some relevant readings below:   &lt;br /&gt;
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*Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993). [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Brenda Cossman, Shannon Bell, Lise Gotell, Becki Ross, &#039;&#039;Bad Attitude/s on Trial: Pornography, Feminism, and the Butler Decision&#039;&#039; (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1997). [[Shannon Bell]]&#039;s chapter, &#039;&#039;The image cannot be seen&#039;&#039;, includes her interview with [[Matthew McGowan]], a Canadian hustler and poet who stood trial for having filmed himself and 2 male friends who were 14-years-old and thus had reached the national [[age of consent]] at the time, engaging in [[Research:_Secondary_Harm#Self-appraisal_of_abuse,_Self-Perception_and_&amp;quot;Consent&amp;quot;|mutually willing (consensual)]] vanilla sex the year prior, when McGowan was 22 years-old. Canadian law changed to make depictions of sexual activity involving people who appear to be under 18 illegal, meaning that their sex was legal but filming was not. In her chapter, Bell interprets Canada&#039;s then-recent change in porn law through the lens of moral panic, and criticizes the obfuscation, denial and silencing of young people&#039;s voices by &#039;expert&#039; truth claims:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The hysteria mounts the closer the sexual activity gets to or can be portrayed as getting to children. Perhaps that is why &#039;seventeen year olds at the height of their sexual powers are called children&#039; (CBC, 1994, 38) in the London porn panic. The media played up the hysteria [...]&lt;br /&gt;
As the research coordinator at the London Family Court Clinic explains: &#039;victim impact statements are written by clinicians who have a lot of experience in child victimization.&#039; There is &#039;the victim&#039;s version of the story&#039; and &#039;what we think it means&#039; (Ibid., 40)&#039;&#039; (p. 207, p. 211).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.google.at/books/edition/Bad_Attitude_s_on_Trial/KfTtZl-hrBsC?hl=de&amp;amp;gbpv=1&amp;amp;dq=Bad+Attitude%5Cs+on+Trial:+Pornography,+Feminism+and+the+Butler+Decision&amp;amp;pg=PA3&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover Cossman, 1997]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Contemporary 3rd/4th Wave Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Judith Butler]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;o understand the violation that incest can be—and also to distinguish between those occasions of incest that are violation and those that are not—it is unnecessary to figure the body of the child exclusively as a surface imposed upon from the outside. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; So I keep adding this qualification: “when incest is a violation,” suggesting that I think that there may be occasions in which it is not. Why would I talk that way? Well, I do think that there are probably forms of incest that are not necessarily traumatic or which gain their traumatic character by virtue of the consciousness of social shame that they produce. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;he very existence of a taboo against incest presumes that a family structure is already there, for how else would one understand the prohibition on sexual relations with members of one’s own family without a prior conception of family?&#039;&#039; [Explanation&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;One commentator on heretictoc.com wrote: “Under what exact conditions is incest “not necessarily traumatic”?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Butler elaborates on the following pages that the concept of “incest” can only exist as long as there’s the concept of the white heterosexual middle-class family. After all, without the idea of a “family” what does incest even mean? Therefore, incest is, according to Butler, not inherently traumatic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or to give a concrete example that I believe most people would agree upon is not traumatic, let’s think of two siblings who are infertile and who have sex with each other but neither they themselves nor anyone else is aware that they are indeed relatives. This is what Butler means by “not necessarily traumatic”.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Judith Butler&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;Quandaries of the Incest Taboo&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Undoing Gender&#039;&#039; (Routledge: New York, 2004), pp. 152-161 (quoting pp. 155-157).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;At what age is consent to sexual relations permissible? Indeed, the views on this matter are quite diverse, and they differ according to country and gender, according to whether the law seeks to end sexual trafficking, whether the law is acknowledging customs regarding child brides, and whether the kind of sex is permissible or not: So age of consent laws vary according to whether sexual practice is deemed heterosexual or homosexual, or within marriage or before marriage. In most cases, sexuality is presumed by such legal codes to be heterosexual, so the lack of a differential regulation between straight and not straight sex is less a sign of equal treatment, than of the unthinkability of non-heterosexual law within the legal codes regulating sexuality — after all, even prohibiting homosexual sex is a way of acknowledging that it exists.&#039;&#039; (p. 5).&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;We are used to hearing that there are [[consent]]ing adults and then there are those who are incompetent to consent. But perhaps incompetence is part of the very process of &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot;-saying. We are not competent to know all the future consequences of the sexual relations to which we say &amp;quot;yes,&amp;quot; or to which we willingly or ambivalently acquiesce. We are never fully active, knowing, and competently predictive at such moments. We open, sometimes in spite of ourselves, to a future we cannot fully control, even though we can steer and direct and try to give it shape in one way or another to the best or our abilities. Perhaps the opposite of the subject of consent is not the subject who is too young or too inexperienced or suffering incompetence. Although there are cases where that is legally right, to be sure, we have to remember that something of childhood persists in adult sexuality, making us more vulnerable or less knowing than we might like, that a certain incompetence pervades our efforts to predict in advance how things will go, and that even a certain inexperience is there at the outset of sexual encounter and in its midst. The juridical &#039;&#039;[legal]&#039;&#039; subject of [[consent]] rules out the humility of unknowingness without which we cannot really understand sexuality. We can, as the former Antioch College rules of sexual conduct tried to do, make every sexual act discussable between two people in advance and a settled matter of consent before embarking on any touch. At such moments, the law has pervaded sexual encounter; the law has drenched our discourse. We expect knowingness precisely at those moments when unknowingness is inseparable from sexuality itself. The law then functions as a defense against the unknown, and tell me: who would have sex if it were really known in advance exactly what it would be like?&#039;&#039; (pp. 24-25).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Judith Butler&#039;&#039;&#039;. (2011). &#039;Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Columbia Journal of Gender and Law&#039;&#039;, Vol. 21 No. 2, pp. 3-27.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[File:Judith_Butler_-_2011_-_Sexual_Consent_-_Psychoanalysis_and_Law.pdf|Archived PDF of Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law]] (internal link). This paper is based on a paper presented in 2011, which was filmed and has been archived [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10j9 here] and [https://vimeo.com/22547545 here].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Other feminist writers of interest are listed below:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - &#039;&#039;She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove&#039;&#039;] - This anthology (2019) collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, age-gap relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people, women, lesbians, and feminist, from the late 70s to the mid-90s.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people&#039;s voices and agency&lt;br /&gt;
*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan, Becoming Sexual: A Critical Appraisal of the Sexualization of Girls (Cambridge: Polity Press, 2013) (Book)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=15C2F2D9BE951828DE35ADF89A61552B Becoming Sexual (Book) on libgen]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan and Gail L. Hawkes, ‘Endangered Girls and Incendiary Objects: Unpacking the Discourse on Sexualization’, in Sexuality and Culture, 12 (2008), 291–311.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gail Hawkes and Danielle Egan, ‘Landscapes of Erotophobia: The Sexual(ized) Child in The Postmodern Anglophone West’, in Sexuality and Culture, 12 (2008), 193–203.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan and Gail Hawkes, ‘The problem with protection: Or, why we need to move towards recognition and the sexual agency of children’, in Continuum, 23:3 (2009), 289-400.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan and Gail Hawkes, [https://sci-hub.se/10.1080/09540253.2012.666232 &amp;quot;Sexuality, youth and the perils of endangered innocence: how history can help us get past the panic&amp;quot;], in Gender and Education, 24(3) (2012), 269–284.&lt;br /&gt;
*Emma Renold and Jessica Ringrose, ‘Schizoid Subjectivities? Re- theorizing Teen-Girls’ Sexual Cultures in an Era of ‘Sexualization,’ in Journal of Sociology, 47:4 (2011), 389–409.&lt;br /&gt;
*Emma Renold and Jessica Ringrose, ‘Feminisms re-figuring ‘sexualization’, sexuality and ‘the girl’, in Feminist Theory, 14:3 (2013), 247-254.&lt;br /&gt;
*Deborah L. Tolman, ‘Doing Desire: Adolescent Girls’ Struggles for/with Sexuality’, in Gender and Society, 8:3 (1994), 324–342.&lt;br /&gt;
*Laina Y. Bay-Cheng and Amanda E. Lewis, &#039;Our “Ideal Girl”: Prescriptions of Female Adolescent Sexuality in a Feminist Mentorship Program&#039;, in Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work, 21:1 (2006), 71-83.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://doi.org/10.1177/0886109905283137&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Nancy Whittier, &#039;&#039;The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State&#039;&#039; (Oxford University Press, 2011).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Child-Sexual-Abuse-Movements/dp/0199783314 Nancy Whittier, &#039;&#039;The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State&#039;&#039; (Oxford University Press, 2011).]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Joseph J. Fischel, &#039;Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children&#039;, in &#039;&#039;differences&#039;&#039;, 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://doi.org/10.1215/10407391-7481204 Joseph J. Fischel, &#039;Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children&#039;, in &#039;&#039;differences&#039;&#039;, 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Feona Attwood, ‘Sluts and Riot Grrrls: Female Identity and Sexual Agency’, in Journal of Gender Studies, 16:3 (2007), 233–247.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kari Lerum and Shari L. Dworkin, ‘Sexual Agency is not a Problem of Neoliberalism: Feminism, Sexual Justice, and the Carceral Turn’, in Sex Roles, 73 (2015), 311-319.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lynne M. Phillips, ‘Recasting Consent: Agency and Victimization in Adult-Teen Relationships’, in &#039;&#039;New Versions of Victims: Feminists Struggle with the Concept&#039;&#039;, ed. by Sharon Lamb (New York: New York University Press, 1999), pp. 82-108.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/399EA11DCC241D1A5275970C15BDFB2C New Versions of Victims]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Michelle Fine, Sexuality, Schooling, and Adolescent Females: The Missing Discourse of Desire, in Harvard Educational Review, 58:1 (1988), 29–54&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://doi.org/10.17763/haer.58.1.u0468k1v2n2n8242&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Cf. Fine, X. Desire: The Morning (and 15 years) After, in Feminism &amp;amp; Psychology, 15:1 (2005), 54-60.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://doi.org/10.1177/0959353505049708&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lynda Marin, Mother and Child: The Erotic Bond, in &#039;&#039;Mother&#039;s Journeys: Feminists Write about Mothering&#039;&#039;, ed. by Maureen T. Reddy, Martha Roth, Amy Sheldon, (Spinsters Ink, Minneapolis, 1994), pp. 9-21.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/MaCTEB.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marjan Sax]] and Sjuul Deckwitz, &#039;You Learn Better on An Old Bicycle: Erotic and Sexual Relations Between Women and Minors&#039;, in &#039;&#039;[[Paidika]]: The Journal of Paedophilia&#039;&#039;, Vol. 2, No. 4 (1992): Special Women&#039;s lssue, pp. 2-13. [Newgon: Marjan Sax is listed as a &amp;quot;feminst sex activist, political scientist, and writer&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
* Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk, “Introduction: Reflections on the Relationship between Feminism and Child Law,” in &#039;&#039;Feminist Perspectives on Child Law&#039;&#039;, ed. Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk (London: Cavendish, 2000).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/676071FAB671AE21153A9D87680FFC37 Feminist Perspectives on Child Law PDF]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Carol Tavris|Carol Tavris]], Beware the Incest-Survivor Machine, in the &#039;&#039;New York Times&#039;&#039; (1993)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20150419234012/https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html?pagewanted=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Tavris, The uproar over sexual abuse research and its findings, in &#039;&#039;Society&#039;&#039; (2000).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/00-018_uproar.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [Responds to the [[Rind_et_al|Rind et al controversy]]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Yasmin Nair,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://yasminnair.com/about-2/ Yasmin Nair: About]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; feminist/queer activist and author, co-edited &#039;&#039;Against Equality&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/DD4D1C4C3CE07971C2DE09315132F098 Against Equality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (2014), including contributions from early MAP/Youth Rights advocates including Bill Andriette and John P. De Cecco. On her personal website, Nair published relevant articles, including: Can We Talk?: Censorship, Pedophilia, and Panic, in &#039;&#039;Wind City Times&#039;&#039; (2005).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://yasminnair.com/can-we-talk-censorship-pedophilia-and-panic-16-november-2005/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; From Queer To Gay: The Rise and Fall of Milo &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;[[Milo Yiannopoulos|Yiannopoulos]]&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, self-published (2017)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://yasminnair.com/from-queer-to-gay-the-rise-and-fall-of-milo/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In &#039;&#039;Adopting Difference: Race, Sex, and the Archaeology of Power in the Farrow-Allen Case&#039;&#039; (published in 2014, reproduced online in 2020)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://yasminnair.com/adopting-difference-race-sex-and-the-archaeology-of-power-in-the-farrow-allen-case-3/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nair argued that critics tended to avoid or downplay the power Mia Farrow wielded over Woody Allen and their children. &lt;br /&gt;
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For Nair, Mia Farrow:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;successfully painted herself as a powerless woman wounded by a powerful and wealthy man. Allen is certainly wealthy and powerful, but Farrow has a lineage in Hollywood that is much older than his, and possesses tremendous political and cultural influence. Much of her power has manifested in the ways that she has managed to even change the law to enable her to satisfy her urge to adopt.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commentary==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[BoyChat]] contributor, &#039;&#039;&#039;Anacreon&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Historically, from what I&#039;ve read I get the impression that the earliest modern feminism, which got started about two hundred years ago on the heels of the French Revolution, was probably a liberating idea. The early Romantics who espoused it, for instance the poet Percy Shelley and his wife Mary, associated it with free love and equality of the sexes within the context of a generally emancipated state of society. These people were wild radicals, the hippies of their day, and so alienated from mainstream society that they felt compelled to leave their native England.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Later on something horrible happened. I suspect it was probably Victorianism. Decades after the high Romantic period, when feminism got started again in the late nineteenth century following a long hiatus, it emerged as a deeply bourgeois movement in the worst sense of that term. It was intensely puritanical, and oriented toward controlling male behavior. It became associated with the &amp;quot;temperance&amp;quot; movement and suppression of &amp;quot;vice,&amp;quot; meaning chiefly prostitution. In the United States it involved itself in the ultimately successful push for Prohibition, a disaster that brought terrible troubles with organized crime that plague us to this day.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;So I guess you could say that feminism went bad when it became respectable. In this sense it resembles the gay movement, which from the viewpoint of boylovers joined the oppressor when it opted for assimilation and so decided to eject undesirables. Contemporary feminism seems to me to be entirely modeled on the second, Victorian version of itself, not at all on the first. Modern feminists are interested in domination rather than in freedom, obsessed with control through the infantilization of everyone in sight, and fanatically eager to wield the gelding knife. So as you rightly observe their movement operates generally as a viciously regressive force, often the unacknowledged ally of rabid fundamentalism.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://boychat.org/messages/1147733.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. historian &#039;&#039;&#039;Beryl Satter&#039;&#039;&#039;:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.jstor.org/stable/3704895 Satter, 2003&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;it is undeniable that feminists and therapists with feminist sympathies elaborated and promoted the sexual abuse paradigm.&amp;quot; (p. 426). American clinical psychologist [[Wikipedia:Jan Haaken|Janice Haaken]], Satter explains, &amp;quot;interprets sexual abuse accusations as a complex phenomenon encompassing women&#039;s desire to speak the hidden truths of their lives and express rage at a broad range of &amp;quot;boundary violations&amp;quot; that are the lot of most women. According to Haaken, sexual abuse accusations symbolize women&#039;s rebellion against their fathers and against expectations that they should remain loyal to their families. These accusations express forbidden emotional and sexual fantasies and might also express conflicts between women that are repressed in some feminist circles.&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similar to Richard Beck (see Breland, 2019&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/07/why-are-right-wing-conspiracies-so-obsessed-with-pedophilia/ Breland, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), Satter argues that the sexual abuse paradigmn rose to prominence during the 1980s due to its use across the political spectrum in a time of economic upheaval, of which warring feminist factions were only one force of many: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Historically, crusades to &amp;quot;save the children&amp;quot; emerge at the moment when progressive movements are beginning to falter. This fits the 1980s context. As social programs serving families were severely reduced, sexual abuse narratives were one way to speak about family pain. Ultimately, the crusades against child abuse gained support from all sides: from feminists &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; and liberals &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;; conservatives anxious about sexual hedonism and evangelical Christians anxious about sexual sin; therapists, attorneys, and criminologists who sought to expand their professional authority; a sensation-hungry media seeking new sexual narratives; and politicians seeking a cause sure to attract support. In addition, Reagan and Bush officials promoted the idea that the greatest threat to American children was pornography rather than poverty. They funded reports on child abuse and widely disseminated the most extreme claims about the sexual victimization of children.&#039;&#039; (p. 452).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Intergenerational Lesbianism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Radical feminism|Radical feminism]] - Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Sex-positive feminism|Sex-positive feminism]] - Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Masculism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__&#039;&#039;&#039;Feminism&#039;&#039;&#039; is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality|equality]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Nina Power]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally &amp;quot;abusive&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; 2020; Taylor&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News &amp;amp; Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, &amp;amp; Sex Crimes’]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; 2018).&lt;br /&gt;
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The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Aya Gruber, &#039;&#039;The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women&#039;s Liberation in Mass Incarceration&#039;&#039; (University of California Press, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, etc.).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Amia Srinivasan, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_to_Sex &#039;&#039;The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century&#039;&#039;] (2021), pp. 170-71. [See [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1583018.htm quote on Boychat]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women&#039;s magazine &#039;&#039;Off Our Backs&#039;&#039; [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. For a well-read and articulate feminist critique of common [[pro-c]] arguments, see the work of Sheila Jeffreys.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See ‘PAEDOPHILIA’, in &#039;&#039;Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution&#039;&#039; (1990), pp. 134-149.; CHAPTER 5 The Paedophile Liberation Movement, in &#039;&#039;Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women&#039;s Subordination&#039;&#039; (2022).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reasons for loathing of &amp;quot;feminism&amp;quot; among MAPs==&lt;br /&gt;
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A number of reasons can be speculatively offered:&lt;br /&gt;
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* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onwards, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary feminists.&lt;br /&gt;
* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception that this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.&lt;br /&gt;
* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.&lt;br /&gt;
* Failure of feminists to identify with or even tentatively address issues related to masculinity. Prof. [[John P. De Cecco]] argued that identity [[Wikipedia:Essentialism|essentialist]] feminists &amp;quot;are jealous of men who show the kind of nurturance that only females are supposed to posses&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:John_de_cecco_paidika_issue_3_interview.pdf De Cecco Paidika interview (1987)] - (Archived PDF copy).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism (&amp;quot;feminazi&amp;quot;, etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority.&lt;br /&gt;
* Attempts by feminists to represent (gay) youth and encourage their &amp;quot;rights&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;participation&amp;quot; whilst at the same time [[Ageism|infantalizing]] them and denying their autonomy.&lt;br /&gt;
* Alliances between radical feminists (TERFs/SWERFs) and violently anti-pedophile ideologies - particularly those of the right. These alliances have been rejuvenated after the [[MAP Movement]] achieved basic visibility in the 2020s.&lt;br /&gt;
* Plain misogyny.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst many of these grievances may have more than a firm foothold in reality, it can certainly be said that their airing has done little good for the cause of [[boylove]] or MAPs in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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===MAP-Exclusionary Radical Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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A solution to the MAP/Feminism paradox might be to define a group of radical feminists who are particularly hostile towards MAPs, or motivated by hate. For example, in setting out care guidelines for survivors of CSA, [[UNICEF]] states &amp;quot;incest and &#039;&#039;&#039;paedophilia&#039;&#039;&#039; are forms of child sexual abuse shaped and perpetuated by patriarchal systems and harmful masculine ideologies&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.unicef.org/media/155226/file/CCS%20Guidelines%20Final%20.pdf CARING FOR CHILD SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ABUSE GUIDELINES (2nd Ed)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (our emphasis), referencing Kelly and Lusk&#039;s 1992 &amp;quot;theories of pedophilia&amp;quot;. This would be a clear use of feminist ideology to attack or malign an [[pedophilia|identity group]] or sexual orientation.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pro-choice/pro-youth Feminism reading list==&lt;br /&gt;
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As mentioned earlier on, some contrary examples exist. A few potential starting points follow:&lt;br /&gt;
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===1st-wave Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Emma Goldman|Emma Goldman]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipedia states that Emma Goldman (June 27, 1869 – May 14, 1940) was an anarchist political activist and writer. She played a pivotal role in the development of anarchist political philosophy in North America and Europe in the first half of the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;When the child reaches adolescence, it meets, added to the home and school restrictions, with a vast amount of hard traditions of social morality. The cravings of love and sex are met with absolute ignorance by the majority of parents, who consider it as something indecent and improper, something disgraceful, almost criminal, to be suppressed and fought like some terrible disease. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Some will ask, what about weak natures, must they not be protected? Yes, but to be able to do that, it will be necessary to realize that education of children is not synonymous with herdlike drilling and training. If education should really mean anything at all, it must insist upon the free growth and development of the innate forces and tendencies of the child.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Emma Goldman&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;The Child and Its Enemies&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Mother Earth&#039;&#039;, Vol. 1: No. 2 (April 1906).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-the-child-and-its-enemies Emma Goldman, &#039;The Child and Its Enemies&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Mother Earth&#039;&#039;, Vol. 1: No. 2 (April 1906)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2nd-wave Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Simone de Beauvoir|Simone de Beauvoir]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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Beauvoir was a highly influential French public intellectual and a leading voice of 2nd wave feminism. She was a communist, existentialist, feminist author, interested in understanding and overcoming limitations on human freedom (what existentialists call living in “Bad Faith”).  In the West, Beauvoir is best known for her life-long unconventional partnership with existentialist philosopher [[Wikipedia:Jean-Paul Sartre|Jean-Paul Sartre]], as well as her book “[[Wikipedia:The Second Sex|The Second Sex]]” (1949), often considered the starting inspiration point of second-wave feminism and a foundational text for social constructionist theories of gender, with its famous line: “one is not born, but rather, becomes a woman”. Beauvoir was one of the signatories of the [[Wikipedia:French petition against age of consent laws|French petition]] calling to abolish age of consent laws. Below we quote from scholarship below which explains her theories on childhood, and her sexual relationships with her young students. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;In Beauvoir’s ongoing project to explore the possibility of moral freedom, childhood is repeatedly pinpointed as the moment when the greatest failure can occur. The child remains within the adult as a haunting, ‘dutiful’ presence of the past; furthering the situating fact of birth, childhood sets limitations for the individual. Children are born with a certain body, and within certain sociopolitical and cultural conditions; both condition the emergence of their subjectivity. For Beauvoir, early childhood experiences wound children by instilling in them a belief in essentialism and in unquestionable authorities. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; In childhood, one is kept under the illusion, carefully created by adults, that universal moral principles exist.&#039;&#039; (p. 332). &#039;&#039;With astonishment, revolt and disrespect the child little by little asks himself, “Why must I act that way? What good is it? And what will happen if I act another way?” He discovers his subjectivity; he discovers that of others.’ (Beauvoir, Ethics of Ambiguity, 39). Teenage crisis, for Beauvoir, is precisely the shock of finding one’s questions unanswered, of having to accept one’s subjectivity and one’s potential independence from arbitrary adult prescriptions. By questioning the world, teenagers can extract themselves from the behaviours of bad faith encouraged by the ready-made judgements of their families and educators&#039;&#039; (pp. 335-336). &#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[C]&#039;&#039;hildhood itself becomes a space of &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; conflict between what is and what could be. Inquisitive, dissatisfied, suspicious: the child, for Beauvoir, embodies the fugitive vision that one can have of freedom and transcendence even as one is carefully conditioned to engage in bad faith. Her portrayal of childhood thus exacerbates a central tension of existentialism: the individual aspiration towards the future, clashing against a quickly solidifying situation&#039;&#039; (p. 336).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Clémentine Beauvais&#039;&#039;&#039;, ‘Simone de Beauvoir and the Ambiguity of Childhood’, in &#039;&#039;Paragraph&#039;&#039;, 38:3 (2015), 329–346.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://doi.org/10.3366/para.2015.0171 Clémentine Beauvais, ‘Simone de Beauvoir and the Ambiguity of Childhood’, in &#039;&#039;Paragraph&#039;&#039;, 38:3 (2015), 329–346.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/44016387 Beauvais - Jstor]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Beauvoir&#039;s posthumously published journals and letters from 1939-41 reveal that she engaged in sexual affairs with students and former students from her philosophy classes; she often led them to her hotel room to tutor them in philosophy and, eventually, take them to bed.&#039;&#039; (p. 149)&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Margaret A. Simons&#039;&#039;&#039;, ‘Lesbian Connections: Simone de Beauvoir and Feminism&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Signs&#039;&#039;, 18:1 (Autumn, 1992), 136-161.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/3174730 Margaret A. Simons, ‘Lesbian Connections: Simone de Beauvoir and Feminism&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Signs&#039;&#039;, 18:1 (Autumn, 1992), 136-161.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Shulamith Firestone|Shulamith Firestone]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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*Chapter 4 - &#039;Down With Childhood&#039;, in &#039;&#039;The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution&#039;&#039; (New York: Bantam Books, 1970).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/8F6A64276692ED9B5B5C1EE7EB9A2AD6 Chapter 4 - &#039;Down With Childhood&#039;, in &#039;&#039;The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution&#039;&#039; (New York: Bantam Books, 1970).]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Ohad Zehavi discusses Firestone&#039;s philosophy which sees &#039;childhood as hell&#039;, writing that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;According to Firestone, &amp;quot;sex forms a class division, but so does age. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Children, according to Firestone, are an oppressed group just like women: ‘children of every class are lower-class, just as women have always been’. This oppression is brought about not only by the vast segregation of children, primarily (but not exclusively) by means of the education system, but also by children’s economic dependency, by their constant subjection to external authority and by their overall disenfranchisement. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; For Firestone both femininity and childhood are fabricated, constructed myths, and since both myths serve as bases for oppressive social regimes they both should – and could – be eradicated. As a result we would no longer recognise a person as man or woman, adult or child, thus ‘clearing the way for a fully “human” condition’&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Ohad Zehavi&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;Becoming-woman, becoming-child: A joint political programme&#039; (pp. 242-243) in &#039;&#039;Feminism and the Politics of Childhood: Friends or Foes?&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ohad Zehavi, &#039;Becoming-woman, becoming-child: A joint political programme&#039;, in &#039;&#039;[http://library.lol/main/47E131B6508AC06DDBCBF4DC998AAE77 Feminism and the Politics of Childhood: Friends or Foes?]&#039;&#039;, ed. by Rachel Rosen and Katherine Twamley (London: UCL Press, 2018), pp. 241-256.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Germaine Greer|Germaine Greer]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1975, she wrote of the experience of one of her school friends: &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Sexual intercourse between grown men and little girls is automatically termed rape under most codes of law. It does not matter whether the child invites it or even whether she seduces the adult; he and he only is guilty of a felony. From the child’s point of view and from the commonsense point of view, there is an enormous difference between intercourse with a willing little girl and the forcible penetration of the small vagina of a terrified child. One woman I know enjoyed sex with her uncle all through her childhood, and never realized that anything was unusual until she went away to school. What disturbed her then was not what her uncle had done but the attitude of her teachers and the school psychiatrist. They assumed that she must have been traumatized and disgusted and therefore in need of very special help. In order to capitulate to their expectation, she began to fake symptoms she did not feel, until at length she began to feel truly guilty for not having felt guilty. She ended up judging herself quite harshly for this innate lechery&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Germaine Greer&#039;&#039;&#039;, [https://id.annas-archive.org/md5/9f290ff3e162eb802847c462e7e022a3 &#039;Seduction is a Four-Letter Word&#039;], in [[LeRoy G. Schultz]], &#039;&#039;Rape Victimology&#039;&#039;, ed. by Shultz (Charles C. Thomas Publishers: Springfield, Illinois, U.S.A. 1975), p. 377.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Also quoted in social worker Thomas D. Oellerich&#039;s scholarship. E.g. Oellerich, Thomas D. (2000), &amp;quot;[https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s12119-000-1027-3 Rind, Tromovitch, and Bauserman: Politically Incorrect - Scientifically Correct]&amp;quot;, Sexuality and Culture, 4 (2): 67–81&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;A woman of taste is a pederast — boys rather than men.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Germaine Greer&#039;&#039;&#039;, from archived interview (2003).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20080203035904/http://www.abc.net.au/tv/enoughrope/transcripts/s946782.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When asked about her book, &#039;&#039;The Beautiful Boy&#039;&#039;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.ipce.info/imo-archive/books/beautiful.pdf &#039;&#039;The Beautiful Boy&#039;&#039; (London: Thames &amp;amp; Hudson, 2003) - Ipce PDF]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Greer replies:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;It&#039;s part of the joy of life is admiring the beauty of things that are beautiful. What is important to me about the Boy is that once upon a time his beauty was understood and celebrated by people of both sexes. A boy was allowed to dress in very bright colours, he was allowed to show himself off in the street, he dyed his hair, he wore make-up, &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; he wore tight pants and cropped jackets and so on. And the girls looked down from behind their jalousie and talked about the best-looking boys. Now, that&#039;s still evident in rock culture, where a lot of it is just straight sexual display.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[Interviewer]: &#039;&#039;You said that one of the things that attracts you about boys was &amp;quot;semen that runs like tap water.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[Greer]: &#039;&#039;That&#039;s not such a bad idea, is it girls? &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; I mean, the recharge time is remarkably short, which is a good thing. If what you want is a high level of excitement&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Greer also defended a UK female teacher, Helen Goddard, who had a [[Intergenerational_Lesbianism|lesbian affair]] instigated by a 15-year old female student at her school. She wrote: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;So how old was she? How old was he? I don’t know and I don’t very much care. I know I’m supposed to care. I’m supposed to think that falling in love with people under the legal age of [[consent]] is evidence of deep perversion and vileness, but I don’t. Young people shouldn’t fall in love, you wish they wouldn’t, and yet they do, very often with someone rather older than they. The results are nearly always catastrophic, whether the love is returned or denied. When an old friend of mine was still a schoolboy, he climbed into the bed of his guardian, who he adored. His appalled guardian threw him out of the house. He swallowed rat-poison. I’m not supposed to talk about Helen Goddard’s victim as her lover. She’s not supposed to be capable of being anybody’s lover. She’s still not 16. She has tried to take the blame, she had admitted that it was she who first kissed Goddard, but it makes no odds. As a 15-year-old she was incapable of consent, let alone of seduction. In Shakespeare’s play of star-crossed love, we are told repeatedly that Juliet is 14. We don’t know how old Romeo is. There’s nothing to say he isn’t 27, like Helen Goddard. Yet it is Juliet who instigates the affair and precipitates the clandestine marriage and its consummation. And as for deceiving one’s parents, you can’t go a wholer hog than Juliet did. In a sane society lovers are protected from mutual self-immolation; in a crazy one they are driven to it.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Germaine Greer&#039;&#039;&#039;, in ‘Jazz Lady’s affair was foolish not evil; Falling for a minor is not evidence of perversion or vileness, says Germaine Greer’, &#039;&#039;The Times&#039;&#039; (London), September 23rd, 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Kate Millett|Kate Millett]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Part of the patriarchal family structure involves the control of the sexual life of children; indeed, the control of children totally. Children &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; have no money which, in a money-economy, is one of the most important sources of their oppression. Certainly, one of children’s essential rights is to express themselves sexually, probably primarily with each other but with adults as well. &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; The problem here is that &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; cross-generational relationships take place in a situation of inequality. Children are in a very precarious position when they enter into relationships with adults, not only in a concrete material sense but emotionally as well, because their personhood is not acknowledged in our society. &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; Of course, these relationships can be non-exploitative and, considering the circumstances, they are probably heroic and very wonderful; but we have to admit they can be exploitative as well&#039;&#039; (p. 83).  &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;What is really at issue is children’s rights and not, as it has been formulated up to now, merely the right of sexual access to children. &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; I would like to see a broader movement involving young people who would be making the decisions because it’s their issue and their fight.&#039;&#039; (pp. 84-85).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Kate Millett&#039;&#039;&#039;, Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children: An Interview with Kate Millett by Mark Blasius, in &#039;&#039;Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia&#039;&#039;, ed. by Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz, 2:8 (1992 {1980}), pp. 83-86.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20220319015646/https://www.brongersma.info/images/Paidika8.pdf Kate Millett, Sexual Revolution and the Liberation of Children: An Interview with Kate Millett by Mark Blasius, in &#039;&#039;Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia&#039;&#039;, ed. by Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz, 2:8 (1992 {1980}), pp. 83-86.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Sex itself is presented as a crime to children. It is how adults control children, how they forbid them sexuality &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Despite the degree of sexual activity that actually goes on among children, I think adults have been all too effective, not only in poisoning sexuality but also in preventing children from understanding or experiencing it.&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; (p. 218). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;he rhetoric and practice that surrounds children has abjured them since infancy to chastity. &amp;quot;Don&#039;t touch yourself there, that&#039;s nasty.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; here is a little person who has been told that one whole section of the body has a crime attached to it. Imagine, &amp;quot;Never, never look at your left hand.&amp;quot; It seems silly to children, of course, but power and force is conveyed by the phrase, &amp;quot;that&#039;s awful,&amp;quot; principally because it is not explained. And the explanation that &amp;quot;it&#039;s dirty&amp;quot;? Well, thinks the child, obviously it isn&#039;t; I&#039;ve taken a bath. What do they mean, it&#039;s dirty? So the taboo, because of its irrationality and mysterious quality, is yet more harmful. It attacks the whole system of mental confidence and reason itself.&#039;&#039; (p. 219).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Parental policing of young females is the one great, unexamined oppression, not only in their lives but in our own as adult women. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Considering its possibilities, sexuality has been very effectively policed. Control works in stopping the behavior; where it doesn&#039;t work, it succeeds still because there is so much guilt; so much shame for whatever sexual activity does take place; so much fear of discovery that when sexually active children are discovered, squelched, and separated, control succeeds.&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Since sexuality was forbidden knowledge, contraception is also forbidden, unfortunately; the culprits can become victims &#039;&#039;[of unwanted pregnancy]&#039;&#039; as well. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; Adults create this pool of ignorance - and that is what it is: ignorance forced upon a group of young people, not innocence.&#039;&#039; (p. 220).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Intergenerational sex could perhaps in the future be a wonderful opportunity for understanding between human beings. But conditions between adults and children preclude any sexual relationship that is not in some sense exploitative. This is not actually the fault of the adults involved, but of the entire social structure. To succeed, a relationship needs an egalitarian space and a balance between the two partners which it cannot by virtue of society have.” &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; It is difficult therefore to imagine the sexual emancipation of children without coming to understand how necessary are other forms of emancipation as well, all parts of progressive social change in years to come. That children have autonomy - that they do not belong to their biological parents, that they have a right to money, to a choice in where they live, that they are not property, that they are not slaves, that they belong to themselves - is a most revolutionary idea.&#039;&#039; (pp. 222-223).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Kate Millett&#039;&#039;&#039;, Beyond Politics? Children and Sexuality, in &#039;&#039;Pleasure and Danger: Exploring Female Sexuality&#039;&#039;, ed. by Carole S. Vance, 2nd edn., (London: Routledge &amp;amp; Kegan Paul, 1992 {1984}), pp. 217–224.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/2CD4B6F851238A755DF8658453624FF0 Kate Millett, Beyond Politics? Children and Sexuality, in &#039;&#039;Pleasure and Danger: Exploring Female Sexuality&#039;&#039;, ed. by Carole S. Vance, 2nd edn., (London: Routledge &amp;amp; Kegan Paul, 1992 {1984}), pp. 217–224.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====[[Wikipedia:Andrea Dworkin|Andrea Dworkin]]====&lt;br /&gt;
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Editors: Most surprisingly, as MAP activist [[Roger Moody]] pointed out (1986), Dworkin made supportive statements in her 1st published book &#039;&#039;Woman Hating&#039;&#039; (1974), in which she also supports the practice of incest and bestiality&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Andrea-DWORKIN-Woman-Hating-A-Radical-Look-at-Sexuality-1974.pdf &#039;&#039;&#039;Andrea Dworkin&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1974). &#039;&#039;Woman Hating: A Radical Look at Sexuality&#039;&#039; (E.P. Dutton: Boston, Massachusetts)]. For example, Dworkin wrote: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The parent-child relationship is primarily erotic because all human relationships are primarily erotic. The incest taboo is a particularized form of repression, one which functions as the bulwark of all the other repressions. The incest taboo ensures that however free we become, we never become genuinely free. The incest taboo, because it denies us essential fulfillment with the parents whom we love with our primary energy, forces us to internalize those parents and constantly seek them, or seek to negate them, in the minds, bodies, and hearts of other humans who are not our parents and never will be.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The incest taboo does the worst work of the culture: it teaches us the mechanisms o f repressing and internalizing erotic feeling — it forces us to develop those mechanisms in the first place; it forces us to particularize sexual feeling, so that it congeals into a need for a particular sexual “object” ; it demands that we place the nuclear family above the human family. The destruction o f the incest taboo is essential to the development of cooperative human community based on the free-flow of natural androgynous eroticism.&amp;quot; (p. 189).&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;In contemporary society relationships between people and other animals often reflect the sadomasochistic complexion of human relationship. Animals in our culture are often badly abused, the objects of violence and cruelty, the foil of repressed and therefore very dangerous human sexuality. Some animals, like horses and big dogs, become surrogate cocks, symbols of ideal macho virility. Needless to say, in androgynous community, human and other-animal relationships would become more explicitly erotic, and that eroticism would not degenerate into abuse.&amp;quot; (p. 188).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in a future &amp;quot;androgynous&amp;quot; society, before turning militantly against age-disparate eroticism in later years. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;As for children, they too are erotic beings, closer to androgyny than the adults who oppress them. Children are fully capable of participating in community, and have every right to live out their own erotic impulses. In androgynous community, those impulses would retain a high degree of non-specificity and would no doubt show the rest of us the way into sexual self-realization. The distinctions between “children” and “adults,” and the social institutions which enforce those distinctions, would disappear as androgynous community develops.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Andrea Dworkin&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1974). &#039;&#039;Woman Hating: A Radical Look at Sexuality&#039;&#039; (E.P. Dutton: Boston, Massachusetts), p. 192.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Children cannot be wholly self-determining as long as factors like parental unemployment, poverty, or homelessness force them into prostitution or pornography. And they cannot exercise satisfactory self-determination without adequate sex education. Women and homosexuals, as well as children and child-lovers, are oppressed by the view that procreational sex is the only erotic activity that rates the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; But this view cannot survive the economic pressure for fewer children and the technocracy&#039;s demand for less, but better educated workers.&#039;&#039; (p. 114). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Beatrice Faust&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1986). &#039;The paedophiles&#039;, in [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]], ed. by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://library.lol/main/D3E65600BCD53F898EE99AEBF6BCBC24 Faust, B. (1986). &#039;The paedophiles&#039;, in &#039;&#039;The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;, Edited by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;he so-called Sexual Revolution, and the emergence of the Women&#039;s Liberation Movement from the New Left, is a serendipitous experiment: women were given strong permissions to enjoy sex with the same frequency and on the same terms as men, and they rejected the notion, retreating into lesbianism, radical celibacy, puritanism and traditionally feminine models of sex. Even at the outset of the so-called sexual revolution, boys began intercourse earlier than girls and found sexual activity more satisfying &#039;&#039;[…]&#039;&#039; Girls mature physically before boys but boys seek sexual knowledge and experience earlier and more actively than girls (cruising). This being so, it seems that a uniform age of consent law for both sexes and/or an age of consent law that does not allow for the possibility of a consensual relationship will be discriminatory against boys and damaging for some children of both sexes. The Netherlands provides a model that avoids this risk.&#039;&#039; (p. 83). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Beatrice Faust&#039;&#039;&#039;, (1995). &amp;quot;Child sexuality and age of consent laws: The Netherlands model.&amp;quot; Australasian Gay and Lesbian Law Journal, 5, pp. 78-85.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Media:(1995) Faust - Child Sexuality and AOC - The Netherlands Model.pdf|Beatrice Faust, (1995). &amp;quot;Child sexuality and age of consent laws: The Netherlands model.&amp;quot; Australasian Gay and Lesbian Law Journal, 5, pp. 78-85.]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[A] &#039;&#039;great deal of effort is spent in keeping children childish. Not being encouraged towards independence, they remain dependent; unused to looking after themselves, they stay vulnerable; having their smallest needs fulfilled by adults, they are often unable to perform simple tasks well within their capabilities. Children are frequently sent to school unable to dress themselves at an age when, in other societies and in earlier days of our own, they would be beginning to make a real contribution to the life and work of their community. If a child expresses interest in adult affairs or engages in adult pursuits it is thought unusual, even extraordinary. Children who behave like adults are regarded as at best amusing and at worst thoroughly obnoxious. If we were not so interested in nurturing immaturity, would the word &#039;precocious&#039; have become an insult?&#039;&#039; (p. 27). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;The activities and interests of children in other societies may contrast sharply with our ideas of what is natural or appropriate for them. We would find it strange for a boy of six or seven to be preoccupied with financial provision for his marriage, yet this is considered natural among the Tallensi. We would not expect a child of this age to be making a real contribution to the economic survival of the community, yet this is commonplace in many simpler societies. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; It is unusual for five-year-olds in our society to be fully aware of the facts of human sex and reproduction, but elsewhere this is normal.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Despite all the different forms of childhood that exist throughout the world, our society might be singled out as distinctly odd&#039;&#039;  (p. 29). &lt;br /&gt;
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[...] &#039;&#039;Given the connections between the status of women and children, the ideas of the women&#039;s liberation movement should help us to raise questions about the status of children and the adult power wielded over them, and to consider the possibility of redefining their sexuality. It is because we keep children dependent, vulnerable and asexual that women come to share these qualities. It is because only the male sex learns to break free from these bonds that men become more autonomous than women. It is because male autonomy is associated with power and aggression that men maintain control over women and that the need is created to &#039;protect&#039; women and children. We need to question whether our apparent concern for children, our protectiveness I towards them, is just a subtle form of oppression, as it is with women.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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[...] &#039;&#039;I will now commit the final heresy by stating clearly my belief that we do more harm than good in enforcing sexual ignorance on children. In attempting to protect children from sex we expose them to danger, in trying to preserve their innocence we expose them to guilt. In keeping both sexes asexual, and then training them to become sexual in different ways, we perpetuate sexual inequality, exploitation and oppression.&#039;&#039; (p. 180). &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Stevi Jackson&#039;&#039;&#039;. &#039;&#039;Childhood and Sexuality&#039;&#039; (Basil Blackwell: Oxford, 1982).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:1982_Jackson_Childhood_and_Sexuality.pdf Childhood and Sexuality] (click for archived PDF)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Resisting Anti-Porn Feminism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Some feminist thought supportive of intergenerational rights came during what anthropologist [[Gayle Rubin]] called &amp;quot;The Feminist Sex Wars,&amp;quot; where sex-positive feminists (e.g. Strossen&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/1073402 Strossen 1993]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,; Echols&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://doi.org/10.2307/466453 Echols, 1983]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) resisted attempts to legally define all pornography as tantamount to rape (see [[Debate_Guide:_Porn_is_the_theory,_rape_is_its_practise|&amp;quot;Porn is the theory, rape is its practise&amp;quot;]] and West&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828376 West, 1987]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Linz et al.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828377 Linz, 1987]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Schauer&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828378 Schauer, 1987]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://openyls.law.yale.edu/handle/20.500.13051/7029 Fischel, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) and prohibit/criminalize sex work (such feminists are now called &amp;quot;SWERFs&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SWERF)  SWERF - Wiktionary]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) under the banner of &amp;quot;feminism.&amp;quot; Some relevant readings below:   &lt;br /&gt;
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*Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993). [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Brenda Cossman, Shannon Bell, Lise Gotell, Becki Ross, &#039;&#039;Bad Attitude/s on Trial: Pornography, Feminism, and the Butler Decision&#039;&#039; (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1997). [[Shannon Bell]]&#039;s chapter, &#039;&#039;The image cannot be seen&#039;&#039;, includes her interview with [[Matthew McGowan]], a Canadian hustler and poet who stood trial for having filmed himself and 2 male friends who were 14-years-old and thus had reached the national [[age of consent]] at the time, engaging in [[Research:_Secondary_Harm#Self-appraisal_of_abuse,_Self-Perception_and_&amp;quot;Consent&amp;quot;|mutually willing (consensual)]] vanilla sex the year prior, when McGowan was 22 years-old. Canadian law changed to make depictions of sexual activity involving people who appear to be under 18 illegal, meaning that their sex was legal but filming was not. In her chapter, Bell interprets Canada&#039;s then-recent change in porn law through the lens of moral panic, and criticizes the obfuscation, denial and silencing of young people&#039;s voices by &#039;expert&#039; truth claims:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The hysteria mounts the closer the sexual activity gets to or can be portrayed as getting to children. Perhaps that is why &#039;seventeen year olds at the height of their sexual powers are called children&#039; (CBC, 1994, 38) in the London porn panic. The media played up the hysteria [...]&lt;br /&gt;
As the research coordinator at the London Family Court Clinic explains: &#039;victim impact statements are written by clinicians who have a lot of experience in child victimization.&#039; There is &#039;the victim&#039;s version of the story&#039; and &#039;what we think it means&#039; (Ibid., 40)&#039;&#039; (p. 207, p. 211).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.google.at/books/edition/Bad_Attitude_s_on_Trial/KfTtZl-hrBsC?hl=de&amp;amp;gbpv=1&amp;amp;dq=Bad+Attitude%5Cs+on+Trial:+Pornography,+Feminism+and+the+Butler+Decision&amp;amp;pg=PA3&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover Cossman, 1997]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Judith Butler]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;o understand the violation that incest can be—and also to distinguish between those occasions of incest that are violation and those that are not—it is unnecessary to figure the body of the child exclusively as a surface imposed upon from the outside. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; So I keep adding this qualification: “when incest is a violation,” suggesting that I think that there may be occasions in which it is not. Why would I talk that way? Well, I do think that there are probably forms of incest that are not necessarily traumatic or which gain their traumatic character by virtue of the consciousness of social shame that they produce. &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;[T]&#039;&#039;he very existence of a taboo against incest presumes that a family structure is already there, for how else would one understand the prohibition on sexual relations with members of one’s own family without a prior conception of family?&#039;&#039; [Explanation&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;One commentator on heretictoc.com wrote: “Under what exact conditions is incest “not necessarily traumatic”?”&lt;br /&gt;
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Butler elaborates on the following pages that the concept of “incest” can only exist as long as there’s the concept of the white heterosexual middle-class family. After all, without the idea of a “family” what does incest even mean? Therefore, incest is, according to Butler, not inherently traumatic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or to give a concrete example that I believe most people would agree upon is not traumatic, let’s think of two siblings who are infertile and who have sex with each other but neither they themselves nor anyone else is aware that they are indeed relatives. This is what Butler means by “not necessarily traumatic”.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;At what age is consent to sexual relations permissible? Indeed, the views on this matter are quite diverse, and they differ according to country and gender, according to whether the law seeks to end sexual trafficking, whether the law is acknowledging customs regarding child brides, and whether the kind of sex is permissible or not: So age of consent laws vary according to whether sexual practice is deemed heterosexual or homosexual, or within marriage or before marriage. In most cases, sexuality is presumed by such legal codes to be heterosexual, so the lack of a differential regulation between straight and not straight sex is less a sign of equal treatment, than of the unthinkability of non-heterosexual law within the legal codes regulating sexuality — after all, even prohibiting homosexual sex is a way of acknowledging that it exists.&#039;&#039; (p. 5).&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;We are used to hearing that there are [[consent]]ing adults and then there are those who are incompetent to consent. But perhaps incompetence is part of the very process of &amp;quot;yes&amp;quot;-saying. We are not competent to know all the future consequences of the sexual relations to which we say &amp;quot;yes,&amp;quot; or to which we willingly or ambivalently acquiesce. We are never fully active, knowing, and competently predictive at such moments. We open, sometimes in spite of ourselves, to a future we cannot fully control, even though we can steer and direct and try to give it shape in one way or another to the best or our abilities. Perhaps the opposite of the subject of consent is not the subject who is too young or too inexperienced or suffering incompetence. Although there are cases where that is legally right, to be sure, we have to remember that something of childhood persists in adult sexuality, making us more vulnerable or less knowing than we might like, that a certain incompetence pervades our efforts to predict in advance how things will go, and that even a certain inexperience is there at the outset of sexual encounter and in its midst. The juridical &#039;&#039;[legal]&#039;&#039; subject of [[consent]] rules out the humility of unknowingness without which we cannot really understand sexuality. We can, as the former Antioch College rules of sexual conduct tried to do, make every sexual act discussable between two people in advance and a settled matter of consent before embarking on any touch. At such moments, the law has pervaded sexual encounter; the law has drenched our discourse. We expect knowingness precisely at those moments when unknowingness is inseparable from sexuality itself. The law then functions as a defense against the unknown, and tell me: who would have sex if it were really known in advance exactly what it would be like?&#039;&#039; (pp. 24-25).&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Judith Butler&#039;&#039;&#039;. (2011). &#039;Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law&#039;, in &#039;&#039;Columbia Journal of Gender and Law&#039;&#039;, Vol. 21 No. 2, pp. 3-27.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[File:Judith_Butler_-_2011_-_Sexual_Consent_-_Psychoanalysis_and_Law.pdf|Archived PDF of Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law]] (internal link). This paper is based on a paper presented in 2011, which was filmed and has been archived [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10j9 here] and [https://vimeo.com/22547545 here].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Other feminist writers of interest are listed below:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - &#039;&#039;She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove&#039;&#039;] - This anthology (2019) collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, age-gap relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people, women, lesbians, and feminist, from the late 70s to the mid-90s.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people&#039;s voices and agency&lt;br /&gt;
*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan, Becoming Sexual: A Critical Appraisal of the Sexualization of Girls (Cambridge: Polity Press, 2013) (Book)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=15C2F2D9BE951828DE35ADF89A61552B Becoming Sexual (Book) on libgen]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan and Gail L. Hawkes, ‘Endangered Girls and Incendiary Objects: Unpacking the Discourse on Sexualization’, in Sexuality and Culture, 12 (2008), 291–311.&lt;br /&gt;
*Gail Hawkes and Danielle Egan, ‘Landscapes of Erotophobia: The Sexual(ized) Child in The Postmodern Anglophone West’, in Sexuality and Culture, 12 (2008), 193–203.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan and Gail Hawkes, ‘The problem with protection: Or, why we need to move towards recognition and the sexual agency of children’, in Continuum, 23:3 (2009), 289-400.&lt;br /&gt;
*Danielle Egan and Gail Hawkes, [https://sci-hub.se/10.1080/09540253.2012.666232 &amp;quot;Sexuality, youth and the perils of endangered innocence: how history can help us get past the panic&amp;quot;], in Gender and Education, 24(3) (2012), 269–284.&lt;br /&gt;
*Emma Renold and Jessica Ringrose, ‘Schizoid Subjectivities? Re- theorizing Teen-Girls’ Sexual Cultures in an Era of ‘Sexualization,’ in Journal of Sociology, 47:4 (2011), 389–409.&lt;br /&gt;
*Emma Renold and Jessica Ringrose, ‘Feminisms re-figuring ‘sexualization’, sexuality and ‘the girl’, in Feminist Theory, 14:3 (2013), 247-254.&lt;br /&gt;
*Deborah L. Tolman, ‘Doing Desire: Adolescent Girls’ Struggles for/with Sexuality’, in Gender and Society, 8:3 (1994), 324–342.&lt;br /&gt;
*Laina Y. Bay-Cheng and Amanda E. Lewis, &#039;Our “Ideal Girl”: Prescriptions of Female Adolescent Sexuality in a Feminist Mentorship Program&#039;, in Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work, 21:1 (2006), 71-83.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://doi.org/10.1177/0886109905283137&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Nancy Whittier, &#039;&#039;The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State&#039;&#039; (Oxford University Press, 2011).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Child-Sexual-Abuse-Movements/dp/0199783314 Nancy Whittier, &#039;&#039;The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State&#039;&#039; (Oxford University Press, 2011).]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Joseph J. Fischel, &#039;Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children&#039;, in &#039;&#039;differences&#039;&#039;, 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://doi.org/10.1215/10407391-7481204 Joseph J. Fischel, &#039;Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children&#039;, in &#039;&#039;differences&#039;&#039;, 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Feona Attwood, ‘Sluts and Riot Grrrls: Female Identity and Sexual Agency’, in Journal of Gender Studies, 16:3 (2007), 233–247.&lt;br /&gt;
*Kari Lerum and Shari L. Dworkin, ‘Sexual Agency is not a Problem of Neoliberalism: Feminism, Sexual Justice, and the Carceral Turn’, in Sex Roles, 73 (2015), 311-319.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lynne M. Phillips, ‘Recasting Consent: Agency and Victimization in Adult-Teen Relationships’, in &#039;&#039;New Versions of Victims: Feminists Struggle with the Concept&#039;&#039;, ed. by Sharon Lamb (New York: New York University Press, 1999), pp. 82-108.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/399EA11DCC241D1A5275970C15BDFB2C New Versions of Victims]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Michelle Fine, Sexuality, Schooling, and Adolescent Females: The Missing Discourse of Desire, in Harvard Educational Review, 58:1 (1988), 29–54&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://doi.org/10.17763/haer.58.1.u0468k1v2n2n8242&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Cf. Fine, X. Desire: The Morning (and 15 years) After, in Feminism &amp;amp; Psychology, 15:1 (2005), 54-60.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://doi.org/10.1177/0959353505049708&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Lynda Marin, Mother and Child: The Erotic Bond, in &#039;&#039;Mother&#039;s Journeys: Feminists Write about Mothering&#039;&#039;, ed. by Maureen T. Reddy, Martha Roth, Amy Sheldon, (Spinsters Ink, Minneapolis, 1994), pp. 9-21.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/MaCTEB.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marjan Sax]] and Sjuul Deckwitz, &#039;You Learn Better on An Old Bicycle: Erotic and Sexual Relations Between Women and Minors&#039;, in &#039;&#039;[[Paidika]]: The Journal of Paedophilia&#039;&#039;, Vol. 2, No. 4 (1992): Special Women&#039;s lssue, pp. 2-13. [Newgon: Marjan Sax is listed as a &amp;quot;feminst sex activist, political scientist, and writer&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
* Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk, “Introduction: Reflections on the Relationship between Feminism and Child Law,” in &#039;&#039;Feminist Perspectives on Child Law&#039;&#039;, ed. Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk (London: Cavendish, 2000).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/676071FAB671AE21153A9D87680FFC37 Feminist Perspectives on Child Law PDF]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Carol Tavris|Carol Tavris]], Beware the Incest-Survivor Machine, in the &#039;&#039;New York Times&#039;&#039; (1993)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20150419234012/https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html?pagewanted=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; Tavris, The uproar over sexual abuse research and its findings, in &#039;&#039;Society&#039;&#039; (2000).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/00-018_uproar.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [Responds to the [[Rind_et_al|Rind et al controversy]]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Yasmin Nair,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://yasminnair.com/about-2/ Yasmin Nair: About]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; feminist/queer activist and author, co-edited &#039;&#039;Against Equality&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://library.lol/main/DD4D1C4C3CE07971C2DE09315132F098 Against Equality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (2014), including contributions from early MAP/Youth Rights advocates including Bill Andriette and John P. De Cecco. On her personal website, Nair published relevant articles, including: Can We Talk?: Censorship, Pedophilia, and Panic, in &#039;&#039;Wind City Times&#039;&#039; (2005).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://yasminnair.com/can-we-talk-censorship-pedophilia-and-panic-16-november-2005/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; From Queer To Gay: The Rise and Fall of Milo &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;[[Milo Yiannopoulos|Yiannopoulos]]&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, self-published (2017)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://yasminnair.com/from-queer-to-gay-the-rise-and-fall-of-milo/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In &#039;&#039;Adopting Difference: Race, Sex, and the Archaeology of Power in the Farrow-Allen Case&#039;&#039; (published in 2014, reproduced online in 2020)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://yasminnair.com/adopting-difference-race-sex-and-the-archaeology-of-power-in-the-farrow-allen-case-3/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nair argued that critics tended to avoid or downplay the power Mia Farrow wielded over Woody Allen and their children. &lt;br /&gt;
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For Nair, Mia Farrow:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;successfully painted herself as a powerless woman wounded by a powerful and wealthy man. Allen is certainly wealthy and powerful, but Farrow has a lineage in Hollywood that is much older than his, and possesses tremendous political and cultural influence. Much of her power has manifested in the ways that she has managed to even change the law to enable her to satisfy her urge to adopt.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commentary==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[BoyChat]] contributor, &#039;&#039;&#039;Anacreon&#039;&#039;&#039;:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Historically, from what I&#039;ve read I get the impression that the earliest modern feminism, which got started about two hundred years ago on the heels of the French Revolution, was probably a liberating idea. The early Romantics who espoused it, for instance the poet Percy Shelley and his wife Mary, associated it with free love and equality of the sexes within the context of a generally emancipated state of society. These people were wild radicals, the hippies of their day, and so alienated from mainstream society that they felt compelled to leave their native England.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Later on something horrible happened. I suspect it was probably Victorianism. Decades after the high Romantic period, when feminism got started again in the late nineteenth century following a long hiatus, it emerged as a deeply bourgeois movement in the worst sense of that term. It was intensely puritanical, and oriented toward controlling male behavior. It became associated with the &amp;quot;temperance&amp;quot; movement and suppression of &amp;quot;vice,&amp;quot; meaning chiefly prostitution. In the United States it involved itself in the ultimately successful push for Prohibition, a disaster that brought terrible troubles with organized crime that plague us to this day.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;So I guess you could say that feminism went bad when it became respectable. In this sense it resembles the gay movement, which from the viewpoint of boylovers joined the oppressor when it opted for assimilation and so decided to eject undesirables. Contemporary feminism seems to me to be entirely modeled on the second, Victorian version of itself, not at all on the first. Modern feminists are interested in domination rather than in freedom, obsessed with control through the infantilization of everyone in sight, and fanatically eager to wield the gelding knife. So as you rightly observe their movement operates generally as a viciously regressive force, often the unacknowledged ally of rabid fundamentalism.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://boychat.org/messages/1147733.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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U.S. historian &#039;&#039;&#039;Beryl Satter&#039;&#039;&#039;:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.jstor.org/stable/3704895 Satter, 2003&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;it is undeniable that feminists and therapists with feminist sympathies elaborated and promoted the sexual abuse paradigm.&amp;quot; (p. 426). American clinical psychologist [[Wikipedia:Jan Haaken|Janice Haaken]], Satter explains, &amp;quot;interprets sexual abuse accusations as a complex phenomenon encompassing women&#039;s desire to speak the hidden truths of their lives and express rage at a broad range of &amp;quot;boundary violations&amp;quot; that are the lot of most women. According to Haaken, sexual abuse accusations symbolize women&#039;s rebellion against their fathers and against expectations that they should remain loyal to their families. These accusations express forbidden emotional and sexual fantasies and might also express conflicts between women that are repressed in some feminist circles.&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similar to Richard Beck (see Breland, 2019&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/07/why-are-right-wing-conspiracies-so-obsessed-with-pedophilia/ Breland, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), Satter argues that the sexual abuse paradigmn rose to prominence during the 1980s due to its use across the political spectrum in a time of economic upheaval, of which warring feminist factions were only one force of many: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Historically, crusades to &amp;quot;save the children&amp;quot; emerge at the moment when progressive movements are beginning to falter. This fits the 1980s context. As social programs serving families were severely reduced, sexual abuse narratives were one way to speak about family pain. Ultimately, the crusades against child abuse gained support from all sides: from feminists &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039; and liberals &#039;&#039;[...]&#039;&#039;; conservatives anxious about sexual hedonism and evangelical Christians anxious about sexual sin; therapists, attorneys, and criminologists who sought to expand their professional authority; a sensation-hungry media seeking new sexual narratives; and politicians seeking a cause sure to attract support. In addition, Reagan and Bush officials promoted the idea that the greatest threat to American children was pornography rather than poverty. They funded reports on child abuse and widely disseminated the most extreme claims about the sexual victimization of children.&#039;&#039; (p. 452).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Intergenerational Lesbianism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Radical feminism|Radical feminism]] - Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia:Sex-positive feminism|Sex-positive feminism]] - Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Masculism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Frederick William Rolfe, known as Baron Corvo , (1860 – 1913) English writer, artist and photographer.jpg|thumb|Baron Corvo]][[wikipedia:Frederick_Rolfe|&#039;&#039;&#039;Baron Corvo&#039;&#039;&#039;]] is the assumed name of the English writer and photographer &#039;&#039;&#039;Frederick Rolfe&#039;&#039;&#039; (1860-1913). One of the most colorful characters of late Victorian times, Rolfe was a convert to Catholicism. In an effort to become a priest, he journeyed to Rome. The effort failed, but he formed a lifelong attachment to Italy--and to the boys he befriended there.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeking to make a living as an independent writer, his finances were always precarious. Rolfe had a knack for finding patrons, but often fell out with them. Finally, out of money and out of luck, he died of a stroke in Venice. Rolfe&#039;s life provided the basis for &#039;&#039;The Quest for Corvo&#039;&#039;, by [[wikipedia:A._J._A._Symons|A. J. A. Symons]], an &amp;quot;experiment in biography&amp;quot; regarded as a minor classic in the field.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rolfe was entirely comfortable with his homosexuality and associated and corresponded with a number of other homosexual Englishmen.  Rolfe&#039;s settled sexual preference was for late adolescents. Towards the end of his life he made his only explicit reference to his specific sexual age preference, in one of the Venice letters to Charles Masson Fox, in which he declared: &amp;quot;My preference was for the 16, 17, 18 and large.&amp;quot; Grant Richards, in his &#039;&#039;Memories of a Misspent Youth&#039;&#039; (1932), recalls &amp;quot;Frederick Baron Corvo&amp;quot; at Parson&#039;s Pleasure in Oxford – where scholars could bathe naked – &amp;quot;surveying the yellow flesh tints of youth with unbecoming satisfaction&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Those of whom it is either speculated or surmised that they had sexual relations with Rolfe were all sexually mature young men between the ages of sixteen and twenty-one. In his literary works, Rolfe sought to characterize the relationships in his fiction as examples of &#039;Greek love&#039; between an older man and an ephebe, thus endowing them with the sanction of the ancient Hellenic tradition familiar to all Edwardians of his era who possessed a classical education. &lt;br /&gt;
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Today, his best-known work is [[wikipedia:Hadrian_the_Seventh|Hadrian the Seventh]] (1904), a fantasy novel in which an obscure literary Englishman, George Arthur Rose (evidently Rolfe himself), finds himself elected pope and assumes vast powers. &#039;&#039;Stories Toto Told Me&#039;&#039; (1898), a collection of six stories, later expanded to thirty-two stories and republished as &#039;&#039;In His Own Image&#039;&#039; (1901), follows ‘Don Friderico’ and his teenage acolytes as they embark on long walking tours in the Italian countryside. Traveling as far as Rome as the eastern coast of Italy, the youths’ leader - the sixteen-year-old Toto - recounts tales of saints behaving like pagan gods. The stories are richly Catholic and unashamedly superstitious. The saints who figure in them are hedonistic, vengeful and (though not licentious), entirely comfortable with nudity, which was diametrically opposite to any Protestant ideal of sainthood.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rolfe&#039;s homosexuality is more evident in his autobiographical novel &#039;&#039;Nicholas Crabbe&#039;&#039;, and in his posthumous work &#039;&#039;The Desire and Pursuit of the Whole&#039;&#039; (1934). Boys were the favorite subjects of [[wikipedia:Frederick_Rolfe#Photography|Rolfe&#039;s photographs]], where he experimented with color and underwater photography. Rolfe also created a number of paintings and designs, including cover designs for some of his books, as well as some church paintings.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://web.archive.org/web/20220126083505/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Corvo,_Baron WilliamAPercy.com archive used to start this article]&lt;br /&gt;
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*John Champagne, (2024). [https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/15/article/937488/summary Baron Corvo&#039;s Venice Letters and Modern Male Homosexuality], &#039;&#039;Journal of the History of Sexuality&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
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*Simon Gatrel, (2016). [https://muse.jhu.edu/article/603480/pdf An Archaeologist’s Approach to Baron Corvo], &#039;&#039;English Literature in Transition, 1880-1920&#039;&#039;, Volume 59, Number 2, pp. 245-248. (Review).&lt;br /&gt;
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*Donald A. Rosenthal, &#039;&#039;The photographs of Frederick Rolfe, Baron Corvo, 1860-1913&#039;&#039; (Asphodel Editions: North Pomfret, Vermont, 2008). [ISBN-10: 1893450252 ; ISBN-13: 978-1893450257]. - The first compilation of the photographic works of Frederick Rolfe (Baron Corvo), with full documentation of his photographic career and an essay by the editor Donald Rosenthal. Note that this print edition was limited to 250 copies. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Edward Mark Slocum</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Slocum passport application 1918.jpg|thumb|Rare photo of Slocum taken from his 1918 passport application]]Dr. &#039;&#039;&#039;Edward Mark Slocum&#039;&#039;&#039; (Aug 7, 1886 - Aug 6, 1946), was an obscure [[Uranian Poetry|Uranian]] poet, professional chemist and graduate of Columbia University, who published the first ever anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]]. He also published &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun: Memories&#039;&#039; (1928), which, having a very limited circulation, included his own poetry and photographs. A very rare 88 page biographical study of Slocum&#039;s life was published by Donald A. Rosenthal, entitled &#039;&#039;An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan: Edward Mark Slocum&#039;&#039; (2012).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Donald A. Rosenthal, &#039;&#039;An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan: Edward Mark Slocum&#039;&#039; (Portsmouth, England: Callum James Books, 2012). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/fc7598c7f9bd56e97969e711dd02a331 Annas Archive PDF link here]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the 1930s when homosexuality was still despised and unpopular, Slocum published very early scholarship on homosexuality (including [[pederasty]]) in the lives and writings of poet and playwright William Shakespeare&#039;s contemporaries, titled &amp;quot;Sex-deviation in Shakespeare&#039;s associates&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://snaccooperative.org/vocab_administrator/resources/7956646 Sex-deviation in Shakespeare&#039;s associates] [manuscript record]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to [[William Percy]] (below), Professor David P. Mackay describes a typescript of these essays as &amp;quot;the first full scale study of homoeroticism in the early modern theater.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Gay historian [[William Percy|William Armstrong Percy]] wrote a review of Rosenthal&#039;s biography which gives some details of Slocum&#039;s life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20170712063654/https://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=An_Arcadian_Photographer_in_Manhattan An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan (archive)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Percy&#039;s review is as follows:   &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Review of Donald Rosenthal&#039;s [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/fc7598c7f9bd56e97969e711dd02a331 An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan: Edward Mark Slocum].&#039;&#039; Callum James Books (2012), 80 pages. by William A. Percy &lt;br /&gt;
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This is the first study of photographs by Edward Mark Slocum (1882-1945). Living in Manhattan in the 1920s, Slocum, a chemist by profession, took many photographs of nude young men and boys, circulating them under a variety of pseudonyms.&lt;br /&gt;
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A multifaceted genius, Slocum has previously been studied as the editor of homosexual poetry, [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]]. Little was known about Slocum’s life when the book was reprinted in 1978 by [[Coltsfoot Press]] with a short note by Timothy d’Arch Smith and an excellent introductory essay by [[Donald Mader]], who, by astute detective work, identified Slocum as the compiler of the anonymous anthology.&lt;br /&gt;
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While a doctoral candidate at Columbia University, Slocum took many photographs. Evidence suggests that he authored an anonymous book which included some of his photographs and poems, &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun: Memories&#039;&#039;, that apparently was published in New York in 1928 in a very limited edition. A few of the poems in that book nearly duplicate poems published earlier in Men and Boys, ascribed to &amp;quot;Edmund Edwinstone.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Slocum usually placed his models in outdoor settings in and around New York City, but far removed from modern life, continuing the tradition of Arcadian nudes of youths established in the 1890s by the German photographers [[Wilhelm von Gloeden]] and his less famous cousin [[Guglielmo Plüschow]], who worked in Naples and Rome. Slocum visited Gloeden, the most famous resident of Taormina, Sicily, who made that beautiful resort a mecca for homosexuals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This book of Rosenthal’s is subtle, sympathetic, and beautifully written. He includes unpublished letters from Gloeden to Slocum, as well as Slocum’s correspondence with other photographers and friends. &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun&#039;&#039; was handmade, with 35 photographs and accompanying poems. Rosenthal discusses the three known copies of the book, all differing from each other and containing a total of 50 images, many in unique prints. He illustrates 14 of these, together with related works by Slocum and other photographers, concentrating on the photographs rather than the poems, which often have no apparent relation to the accompanying images.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To track Slocum’s movements, Rosenthal cites numerous public records (shipping manifests, census data), information unavailable to Mader at the time he wrote his introduction. He presents convincing evidence that Slocum’s took the photographs in &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun&#039;&#039;. Rosenthal also discusses Slocum’s private photographic albums, now mostly dispersed. One of these, which Slocum called &#039;&#039;Filii Amoris&#039;&#039;, had 58 prints until it was dismantled in 1996. These pictures, also probably from the 1920s, are considerably more erotic than Slocum’s “published” photographs. Many are still on the art market, where a few have recently passed through auction sales.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A man of wide interests, Slocum in his later years seem to have stopped photographing to write a study of Shakespeare’s homosexual associates and rivals. Professor David P. Mackay of the CUNY Graduate Center and Brooklyn College describes a typescript of these essays, in two parts (Folger Shakespeare Library, Washington, DC) as “the first full scale study of homoeroticism in the early modern theater.” Rosenthal convinces that Slocum was a first class scholar without discussing at length his original work on Shakespeare’s contemporaries.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Slocum is a little-known photographer whose works remain difficult to find. Nevertheless, his photographs bring a more modern, American sensibility to the Arcadian genre of male nudes, best exemplified by the works of his older friend Gloeden, who used exclusively Sicilian models. In contrast, Slocum often paired a Nordic youth with a Mediterranean one. This book makes available for the first time a representative selection of Slocum’s well-made, often optimistic images of youth, together with some works by some European artists working in the same tradition who influenced him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Widely travelled as well as broadly educated, with an A.B. from Yale, more than a year at Harvard Law School and enrollment at Princeton Graduate School, Rosenthal recently retired after a long and distinguished career as a curator. He worked at museums beginning at the Metropolitan Museum in New York while studying for his Ph.D. at Columbia, with stints at the Philadelphia Museum of Art, University of Rochester, the High Museum of Art, Atlanta, Bowdoin College Museum of Art, and St. Anselm College.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rosenthal began a highly specialized career after retirement with limited edition books featuring homoerotic photographs, a subject about which he’d never previously published. He began with the photographs of [[Baron Corvo]], about whom there is quite a cult, in 250 copies (The Photographs of Frederick Rolfe, Baron Corvo, 1860-1913, 2008, Asphodel). He plans to publish another limited edition of [[Norman Douglas]], whose photographs are difficult to distinguish from those of others, using his or their own Kodaks. The book on Corvo sold out and is now difficult and expensive to procure, so you’d better try to buy this one before all 75 of its exemplars are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rosenthal avoids the vexed question whether the [[Uranian]]s, called by the pioneer d’Arch Smith, and the current master of that field, the expatriate American [[Michael Matthew Kaylor]], “English,” by which they really mean British or Irish, had any real serious relations with the Americans. In his original introduction to Men and Boys, [[Donald Mader]] dubbed the Americans Calamites, but called them Uranians in a second introduction that only appeared on my website because, on further study, he concluded they were intimately connected with their British peers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that Slocum’s frequent visits to England that Rosenthal has uncovered, his correspondence and trafficking with British Uranians, shows that America influenced the British poets more than is allowed by d’Arch Smith or his successor Kaylor. But Rosenthal has avoided the whole question of reciprocal influence of the two trans-Atlantic cohorts of poets of boy love, though he does emphasize the importance their photographs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As Rosenthal proved, Slocum travelled frequently to Great Britain, where he knew several of the British Uranians, so brilliantly excerpted and analyzed in the two volumes of Kaylor’s Lad’s Love. The volumes by Slocum that Kinsey acquired may been owned by the Dutch branch of Magnus Hirschfeld’s &#039;&#039;Institut für Sexualwissenscaft&#039;&#039;, perhaps because Slocum had spent several years in the Dutch East Indies, where he may have known a Dutch poet of boy love, as Mader speculates. Another American, [[James Latimer McLane Jr.]], also travelled frequently to Great Britain and knew some of the British, as [[Stephen Wayne Foster]], the leading expert on American boy love poets, has uncovered; so easy had trans-Atlantic communication and travel become by the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another American poet well known to the British was my own uncle Will, who was anthologized in Slocum’s Men and Boys under “A. W. Percy,” his poem also slightly altered. So, these three Americans in particular were known to British Uranians. Donald Mader has told me that Will inscribed a copy of Enzio’s Kingdom (1924) to [[Norman Douglas]] that has recently come on the market for $900. Douglas was, of course, Will&#039;s main British contact. But Douglas, an expatriate Scot, met almost every British traveler who was interested in man-boy love who ever visited Italy. Will wrote a very campy introduction Douglas’s &#039;&#039;Birds and Beasts of the Greek Anthology&#039;&#039; (1927).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All of this refutes the opinion of d’Arch Smith, which has been even more emphasized by Kaylor, that the British Uranians were unconnected to and uninfluenced by the Americans. Another criticism of Kaylor’s book was that it over-emphasized the aristocratic connections of the British Uranians. (Callum James, &amp;quot;Lad&#039;s Love - Troubled Souls and their Chaste Longing For the Beautiful, Untouchable,&amp;quot; Gay News [Amsterdam], no. 246, February 2012.) But Rosenthal deliberately avoids this quarrel about how much influence there was between the Americans and the British; in regard to Slocum&#039;s photography the influence was one-way, since all the British boy-photographers he knew belonged to an older generation. Rosenthal&#039;s book is an excellent introduction to Edward Mark Slocum&#039;s fascinating work as a photographer. &lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Official_Encyclopedia]][[Category:Art]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Historical minor-attracted figures]][[Category:People: Artists and Poets]][[Category:People: Critical Analysts]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:Research: Broader Perspectives]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Edward Mark Slocum</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Slocum passport application 1918.jpg|thumb|Rare photo of Slocum taken from his 1918 passport application]]Dr. &#039;&#039;&#039;Edward Mark Slocum&#039;&#039;&#039; (Aug 7, 1886 - Aug 6, 1946), was an obscure [[Uranian Poetry|Uranian]] poet, professional chemist and graduate of Columbia University, who published the first ever anthology of homosexual literature to be published in America - [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]]. He also published &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun: Memories&#039;&#039; (1928), which, having a very limited circulation, included his own poetry and photographs. A very rare 88 page biographical study of Slocum&#039;s life was published by Donald A. Rosenthal, entitled &#039;&#039;An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan: Edward Mark Slocum&#039;&#039; (2012).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Donald A. Rosenthal, &#039;&#039;An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan: Edward Mark Slocum&#039;&#039; (Portsmouth, England: Callum James Books, 2012). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/fc7598c7f9bd56e97969e711dd02a331 Annas Archive PDF link here]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the 1930s when homosexuality was still despised and unpopular, Slocum published very early scholarship on homosexuality (including [[pederasty]]) in the lives and writings of poet and playwright William Shakespeare&#039;s contemporaries, titled &amp;quot;Sex-deviation in Shakespeare&#039;s associates&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://snaccooperative.org/vocab_administrator/resources/7956646 Sex-deviation in Shakespeare&#039;s associates] [manuscript record]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to [[William Percy]] (below), Professor David P. Mackay describes a typescript of these essays as &amp;quot;the first full scale study of homoeroticism in the early modern theater.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gay historian [[William Percy|William Armstrong Percy]] wrote a review of Rosenthal&#039;s biography which gives some details of Slocum&#039;s life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://web.archive.org/web/20170712063654/https://williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=An_Arcadian_Photographer_in_Manhattan An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan (archive)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Percy&#039;s review is as follows:   &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;Review of Donald Rosenthal’s An Arcadian Photographer in Manhattan: Edward Mark Slocum.&#039;&#039; Callum James Books (2012), 80 pages. by William A. Percy &lt;br /&gt;
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This is the first study of photographs by Edward Mark Slocum (1882-1945). Living in Manhattan in the 1920s, Slocum, a chemist by profession, took many photographs of nude young men and boys, circulating them under a variety of pseudonyms.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A multifaceted genius, Slocum has previously been studied as the editor of homosexual poetry, [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]]. Little was known about Slocum’s life when the book was reprinted in 1978 by [[Coltsfoot Press]] with a short note by Timothy d’Arch Smith and an excellent introductory essay by [[Donald Mader]], who, by astute detective work, identified Slocum as the compiler of the anonymous anthology.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While a doctoral candidate at Columbia University, Slocum took many photographs. Evidence suggests that he authored an anonymous book which included some of his photographs and poems, &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun: Memories&#039;&#039;, that apparently was published in New York in 1928 in a very limited edition. A few of the poems in that book nearly duplicate poems published earlier in Men and Boys, ascribed to &amp;quot;Edmund Edwinstone.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Slocum usually placed his models in outdoor settings in and around New York City, but far removed from modern life, continuing the tradition of Arcadian nudes of youths established in the 1890s by the German photographers [[Wilhelm von Gloeden]] and his less famous cousin [[Guglielmo Plüschow]], who worked in Naples and Rome. Slocum visited Gloeden, the most famous resident of Taormina, Sicily, who made that beautiful resort a mecca for homosexuals.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This book of Rosenthal’s is subtle, sympathetic, and beautifully written. He includes unpublished letters from Gloeden to Slocum, as well as Slocum’s correspondence with other photographers and friends. &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun&#039;&#039; was handmade, with 35 photographs and accompanying poems. Rosenthal discusses the three known copies of the book, all differing from each other and containing a total of 50 images, many in unique prints. He illustrates 14 of these, together with related works by Slocum and other photographers, concentrating on the photographs rather than the poems, which often have no apparent relation to the accompanying images.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To track Slocum’s movements, Rosenthal cites numerous public records (shipping manifests, census data), information unavailable to Mader at the time he wrote his introduction. He presents convincing evidence that Slocum’s took the photographs in &#039;&#039;Lads O’ the Sun&#039;&#039;. Rosenthal also discusses Slocum’s private photographic albums, now mostly dispersed. One of these, which Slocum called &#039;&#039;Filii Amoris&#039;&#039;, had 58 prints until it was dismantled in 1996. These pictures, also probably from the 1920s, are considerably more erotic than Slocum’s “published” photographs. Many are still on the art market, where a few have recently passed through auction sales.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A man of wide interests, Slocum in his later years seem to have stopped photographing to write a study of Shakespeare’s homosexual associates and rivals. Professor David P. Mackay of the CUNY Graduate Center and Brooklyn College describes a typescript of these essays, in two parts (Folger Shakespeare Library, Washington, DC) as “the first full scale study of homoeroticism in the early modern theater.” Rosenthal convinces that Slocum was a first class scholar without discussing at length his original work on Shakespeare’s contemporaries.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Slocum is a little-known photographer whose works remain difficult to find. Nevertheless, his photographs bring a more modern, American sensibility to the Arcadian genre of male nudes, best exemplified by the works of his older friend Gloeden, who used exclusively Sicilian models. In contrast, Slocum often paired a Nordic youth with a Mediterranean one. This book makes available for the first time a representative selection of Slocum’s well-made, often optimistic images of youth, together with some works by some European artists working in the same tradition who influenced him.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Widely travelled as well as broadly educated, with an A.B. from Yale, more than a year at Harvard Law School and enrollment at Princeton Graduate School, Rosenthal recently retired after a long and distinguished career as a curator. He worked at museums beginning at the Metropolitan Museum in New York while studying for his Ph.D. at Columbia, with stints at the Philadelphia Museum of Art, University of Rochester, the High Museum of Art, Atlanta, Bowdoin College Museum of Art, and St. Anselm College.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rosenthal began a highly specialized career after retirement with limited edition books featuring homoerotic photographs, a subject about which he’d never previously published. He began with the photographs of [[Baron Corvo]], about whom there is quite a cult, in 250 copies (The Photographs of Frederick Rolfe, Baron Corvo, 1860-1913, 2008, Asphodel). He plans to publish another limited edition of [[Norman Douglas]], whose photographs are difficult to distinguish from those of others, using his or their own Kodaks. The book on Corvo sold out and is now difficult and expensive to procure, so you’d better try to buy this one before all 75 of its exemplars are gone.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Rosenthal avoids the vexed question whether the [[Uranian]]s, called by the pioneer d’Arch Smith, and the current master of that field, the expatriate American [[Michael Matthew Kaylor]], “English,” by which they really mean British or Irish, had any real serious relations with the Americans. In his original introduction to Men and Boys, [[Donald Mader]] dubbed the Americans Calamites, but called them Uranians in a second introduction that only appeared on my website because, on further study, he concluded they were intimately connected with their British peers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that Slocum’s frequent visits to England that Rosenthal has uncovered, his correspondence and trafficking with British Uranians, shows that America influenced the British poets more than is allowed by d’Arch Smith or his successor Kaylor. But Rosenthal has avoided the whole question of reciprocal influence of the two trans-Atlantic cohorts of poets of boy love, though he does emphasize the importance their photographs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As Rosenthal proved, Slocum travelled frequently to Great Britain, where he knew several of the British Uranians, so brilliantly excerpted and analyzed in the two volumes of Kaylor’s Lad’s Love. The volumes by Slocum that Kinsey acquired may been owned by the Dutch branch of Magnus Hirschfeld’s &#039;&#039;Institut für Sexualwissenscaft&#039;&#039;, perhaps because Slocum had spent several years in the Dutch East Indies, where he may have known a Dutch poet of boy love, as Mader speculates. Another American, [[James Latimer McLane Jr.]], also travelled frequently to Great Britain and knew some of the British, as [[Stephen Wayne Foster]], the leading expert on American boy love poets, has uncovered; so easy had trans-Atlantic communication and travel become by the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another American poet well known to the British was my own uncle Will, who was anthologized in Slocum’s Men and Boys under “A. W. Percy,” his poem also slightly altered. So, these three Americans in particular were known to British Uranians. Donald Mader has told me that Will inscribed a copy of Enzio’s Kingdom (1924) to [[Norman Douglas]] that has recently come on the market for $900. Douglas was, of course, Will&#039;s main British contact. But Douglas, an expatriate Scot, met almost every British traveler who was interested in man-boy love who ever visited Italy. Will wrote a very campy introduction Douglas’s &#039;&#039;Birds and Beasts of the Greek Anthology&#039;&#039; (1927).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
All of this refutes the opinion of d’Arch Smith, which has been even more emphasized by Kaylor, that the British Uranians were unconnected to and uninfluenced by the Americans. Another criticism of Kaylor’s book was that it over-emphasized the aristocratic connections of the British Uranians. (Callum James, &amp;quot;Lad&#039;s Love - Troubled Souls and their Chaste Longing For the Beautiful, Untouchable,&amp;quot; Gay News [Amsterdam], no. 246, February 2012.) But Rosenthal deliberately avoids this quarrel about how much influence there was between the Americans and the British; in regard to Slocum&#039;s photography the influence was one-way, since all the British boy-photographers he knew belonged to an older generation. Rosenthal&#039;s book is an excellent introduction to Edward Mark Slocum&#039;s fascinating work as a photographer. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Official_Encyclopedia]][[Category:Art]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Historical minor-attracted figures]][[Category:People: Artists and Poets]][[Category:People: Critical Analysts]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:Research: Broader Perspectives]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Bluecross.png|thumb|This user has been awarded a blue cross (for contributing at least &#039;&#039;&#039;7&#039;&#039;&#039; complete articles on NewgonWiki), and is thus able to award the cross to any other editor]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Role:&#039;&#039;&#039; Editorial Lead: [[Newgon Support Team|Social History and Critical Theory]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Teleiophile (i.e. not, myself, an MAP). I&#039;ve come to be interested in MAP issues through scholarship, so I tend to produce pages about academics and historical figures related to MAPs. Some pages I&#039;ve produced include:&lt;br /&gt;
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*I made pages for all but one of the &amp;quot;famous pedophiles&amp;quot; blog. Includes [[Andre Gide]], [[Johann Wolfgang von Goethe]], [[Thomas Mann]], [[Edgar Allan Poe]], [[Lord Byron]], [[Gabriel Garcia Marquez]], [[Samuel de Champlain]], [[Novalis]], [[Mark Twain]], [[Will Durant]], [[Horatio Alger]], [[Giacomo Casanova]], [[Mahatma Gandhi]], the [[Prophet Muhammad]], [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[Carleton Gajdusek]], [[M. P. Shiel]], [[T. H. White]], [[Kentaro Miura]] and [[Hayao Miyazaki]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Intergenerational Lesbianism]] is largely by me, including the summary of historian Amanda H. Littauer&#039;s 2020 article in our [[Testimony:_Adult_Female_with_Minor|testimonials]] page. The detailed [[Feminism]] page is largely by me.  &lt;br /&gt;
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*A large fact-checker article on [[Erwin Schrodinger]]. Large articles on historical MAP figures: [[Charlie Chaplin]], [[John Ruskin]], [[Eric Gill]], and [[Ernest Dowson]]. The most detailed article anywhere on [[Roger Moody]], a left-wing MAP figure who was the 1st British person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print. The most detailed page anywhere on [[Nettie Pollard]], a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner who supported [[PIE]] and children&#039;s liberation. &lt;br /&gt;
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*General/miscellaneous: Australian modern MAP figure [[Clarence Osborne]]. The author of &#039;&#039;Lolita&#039;&#039;, [[Vladimir Nabokov]], and the contemporary artist he admired: [[Balthus]]. Books like Nancy Friday&#039;s truly sex-positive [[My Secret Garden]], and the 1st anthology of American homosexual literature [[Men and Boys: An Anthology (1924)]], as well as its author [[Edward Mark Slocum]]. The [[Encyclopedia of Homosexuality]] (1990) - a good starting point for the history of [[pederasty]]. [[Boyd McDonald]] - publisher of reader&#039;s sex stories / histories in the long-running gay pornography and erotic literature zine &#039;&#039;S.T.H.&#039;&#039; or &#039;&#039;Straight to Hell&#039;&#039;, which often involved childhood experiences and age-gap sexual experience. Gay icons [[Harvey Milk]] and [[Craig Rodwell]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*Academics (General): [[Ken Plummer]], [[John P. De Cecco]], [[David Sonenschein]], [[Ernest Borneman]], [[John Money]], [[Richard Green]], [[Donald West]], [[Gilbert Herdt]], [[Gert Hekma]], [[Will H. L. Ogrinc]], [[Theo Sandfort]], [[Terry Leahy]] (updated links), [[Allie C. Kilpatrick]], [[Paul Okami]], [[Chin-Keung Li]]/C.K. Li, [[Warren Johansson]], [[Stephen Wayne Foster]], [[Rachel Hope Cleves]], [[Nicholas Syrett]], [[Leonardo Arce Vidal]], [[Hoko Horii]], [[Gennady Borisovich Deryagin]], [[LeRoy G. Schultz]], [[Preben Hertoft]], [[Helmut Graupner]], [[Gisela Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg]], [[Volkmar Sigusch]], [[Eberhard Schorsch]], [[Gunter Schmidt]], [[Thore Langfeldt]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Marjan Sax]], [[Pat Sikes]] (teacher-student relationships), [[Jeffrey Weeks]], [[Philip Jenkins]], [[Charles Shively]] and his friend [[NAMBLA]] spokesperson [[Tom Reeves]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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*I&#039;ve helped to make books such as [[The Betrayal of Youth (Book)]] (1986), and [[Pedophiles on Parade]] (Vol. 1 and 2, 1998), available to the general public, online for free. &lt;br /&gt;
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*Many pages I&#039;ve made relate to [[Communism|Left-wing politics]]. E.g. The most detailed article anywhere on the the life and thought of the once influential anarchist German MAP activist [[Peter Schult]]. This involved translating the 1 German academic biography about him, summarized in [[Beispiel Peter Schult]]. Created pages for the anarchists [[Sebastien Faure]], [[Wolfi Landstreicher]], [[Noam Chomsky]], [[Vaush]], and the socialist [[The_Oneida_Community|Oneida Community]] which institutionalized woman-boy sexual contact.&lt;br /&gt;
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*French figures, including queer theorists [[Guy Hocquenghem]] and [[Mario Mieli]]; writers [[Pierre Louys]], [[Jacques d&#039;Adelsward-Fersen]], [[Jean-Claude Féray]], [[Roger Peyrefitte]], [[Tony Duvert]], and [[Gabriel Matzneff]]; artists like [[Paul Gauguin]], and film director / writer [[Alain Robbe-Grillet]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*Japanese figures (mostly manga artists): [[Kentaro Miura]], [[Nobuhiro Watsuki]], [[Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro]], [[Kenya Suzuki]], [[Tatsuya Matsuki]], [[Hidekazu Tanaka]], [[Ken Akamatsu]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Indian figures: [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rani Laxmibai]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]], [[Mahadev Govind Ranade]].&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve also made edits to already existing pages that aren&#039;t shown here. Want to get in touch? Leave a comment at heretictoc.com and I&#039;ll be likely to see it and reply. Or join the [[Help:Joining PCMA chat|Newgon chat on Matrix/Element]].&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Nettie_Pollard&amp;diff=34445</id>
		<title>Nettie Pollard</title>
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thornton_(judge) Peter Thornton]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Note: These individuals defended PIE members in court during the late 1970s and early 1980s, but not under NCCL auspices.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s right to speak and organize freely at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). In 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thornton_(judge) Peter Thornton]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s right to speak and organize freely at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). In 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s right to speak and organize freely at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). In 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s right to speak and organize freely at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). In 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading Chesterman&#039;s gay liberation demands. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s — then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] — which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit. Scare quotes on &amp;quot;paedophile apologist&amp;quot; added by Newgon editors.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around Paedophile Action for Liberation (PAL), and its successor the Paedophile Information Exchange ([[PIE]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When the British retail chain [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub-Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e., &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972, and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid.&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the CHE made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to 16, or 12 in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;.).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the book included contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens among others. For her part, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children&#039;s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; She criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she wrote that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading them. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s - then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] - which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged paedophile apologist at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s AGM in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid. pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e. &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972 and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the C.H.E. made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to sixteen, or twelve in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children’s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she argued that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading them. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s - then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] - which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged paedophile apologist at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s AGM in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid. pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e. &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972 and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the C.H.E. made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to sixteen, or twelve in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children’s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state.&amp;quot; Raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she argued that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be so acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurtures shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading them. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s - then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] - which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged paedophile apologist at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s AGM in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, PIE Chairman [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|Tom O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid. pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e. &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Sir Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot; For discussion, see [https://www.theguardian.com/law/2014/mar/25/who-judges-the-judges &#039;&#039;Guardian&#039;&#039; article].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972 and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the C.H.E. made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to sixteen, or twelve in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children’s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state&amp;quot;; raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she argued that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be so acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I will gradually add to this, as there is a lot to cover. Nettie participated in many campaign groups during her life, maintained a vast social life with activists from every period and group she moved through - be they MAP activists, GLF activists, or early trans rights campaigners - so it will take some time to document her life in any detail. &lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ll also list her writings as best I can at some point, the most well-known being her chapter &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children&amp;quot; in Avedon Carol&#039;s &amp;quot;The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&amp;quot; book [which also features an incredible chapter by [[Gayle Rubin]] ]... But Nettie  also apparently wrote for &amp;quot;Red Rag,&amp;quot; and wrote multiple articles about defending pornography from censorship and criminalization in the 90s. So, there&#039;s a fair bit to get to, but I&#039;ll get there! &lt;br /&gt;
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If anyone reading this hasn&#039;t seen it, I highly recommend reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 Gay Liberation demands, which you can find videos of Nettie reading out at Pride events - since for her they summed up what she believed in... I found a pamphlet called &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising, which reproduces Chesterman&#039;s demands and then asks &amp;quot;How far do &#039;&#039;you&#039;&#039; think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Scroll to the bottom here for a lovely poster which describes the kind of society that the British GLF, and by extension Nettie, wanted to see: https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ &lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Prue|Prue]] ([[User talk:Prue|talk]]) 18:13, 6 April 2026 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Source to use later - https://ianpace.wordpress.com/tag/campaign-against-public-morals/ --[[User:Prue|Prue]] ([[User talk:Prue|talk]]) 23:09, 18 April 2026 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurturers shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading them. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;doi:10.1017/S0018246X25000093&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s - then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] - which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged paedophile apologist at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued that the term only began to enter mass consciousness after intense media coverage around PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis and a conservative backlash to the past decade.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before the 1980s, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s AGM in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid. pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e. &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Very likely &amp;quot;Sir Peter Thornton, KC&amp;quot; - See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972 and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the C.H.E. made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to sixteen, or twelve in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children’s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state&amp;quot;; raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she argued that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be so acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurturers shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading them. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s - then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] - which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged paedophile apologist at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The term only began to enter mass consciousness, the historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued, due intense media coverage - much of it negative and sensationalist - around PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, historians have argued that gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis, which occurred during periods of conservative backlash to the economic and sexual politics of the 60s and 70s.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before this point, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s AGM in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid. pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), and concluded by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e. &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE. She was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Very likely &amp;quot;Sir Peter Thornton, KC&amp;quot; - See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972 and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship to [[PIE]] were the subject of intense media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the C.H.E. made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to sixteen, or twelve in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie published her most overt perspective on [[MAP]] related issues, in a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children’s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state&amp;quot;; raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, she argued that: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be so acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurturers shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading them. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For Nettie, the GLF badge was &amp;quot;a liberation badge, not a rights badge.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Philippa Fletcher and Noah Petts, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/313970B8AB620F063001F7159E6F1006/S0018246X25000093a.pdf/the-lives-and-legacies-of-the-british-gay-liberation-front-badge-1970-2024.pdf The Lives and Legacies of the British Gay Liberation Front Badge, 1970–2024,] &#039;&#039;The Historical Journal&#039;&#039;, 69, pp. 198–220 (p. 207);&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British [[Feminism|women&#039;s movement]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s - then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] - which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged paedophile apologist at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The term only began to enter mass consciousness, the historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued, due intense media coverage - much of it negative and sensationalist - around PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, historians have argued that gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis, which occurred during periods of conservative backlash to the economic and sexual politics of the 60s and 70s.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before this point, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s AGM in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid. pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), concluding by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays extremely similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e. &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE, and was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Very likely &amp;quot;Sir Peter Thornton, KC&amp;quot; - See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972 and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship with [[PIE]] and past statements about [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex were the subject of media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the C.H.E. made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to sixteen, or twelve in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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During this time, Nettie published her most overt perspectives on [[MAP]] related issues, a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children’s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state,&amp;quot; raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, of which Nettie maintained: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be so acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;margin-right: 25px; float: left;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;__TOC__&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;[[File:Nettie 01.clean.jpeg|200px|thumb|Nettie Pollard in her later years, wearing her GLF badge.]]&#039;&#039;&#039;Janet (Nettie) Marian Mackenzie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039; (6th September 1949 - 25th December 2025), known in life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Nettie Pollard&#039;&#039;&#039;, was a pioneering British lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner. She is known primarily for her early involvement with the UK branch of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Liberation_Front# Gay Liberation Front] (GLF, founded in 1970), her work with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL, later [[wikipedia:Liberty_(advocacy_group)|Liberty]]), and her involvement with the group [[wikipedia:Feminists_Against_Censorship|Feminists Against Censorship]]. Nettie attended and helped to organize the UK&#039;s first Gay Pride March, which took place in London on the 1st of July, 1972.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alastair James, [https://www.attitude.co.uk/uncategorised/worlds-first-ever-pride-march-in-1972-remembered-by-gay-liberation-front-veterans-403931/ World&#039;s first-ever Pride march in 1972 remembered by Gay Liberation Front veterans] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 24 July 2022); cf. Peter Scott-Presland&#039;s obituary for Nettie (cited below), which describes Nettie as a &amp;quot;planner&amp;quot; of the march.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Similar to many early gay and sexual liberation activists]] who had lived through a time where homosexuality was a &amp;quot;stigma symbol&amp;quot; - as Nettie&#039;s friend [[Ken Plummer]] (1973) put it - where to &amp;quot;be publicly known as a homosexual [was] to invite your employer to sack you, your parents to reject you, the law to imprison you, the doctor to cure you, the moralist to denounce you, [...] and the queer basher to kill you&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Ken Plummer]], [https://kenplummer.com/2013/01/30/early-research-awareness-of-homosexuality/ &amp;quot;Awareness of Homosexuality&amp;quot;] (1973).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie was sympathetic towards other sexual minorities including [[MAP]]s and transgender people.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Life==&lt;br /&gt;
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Named Janet, but always known as Nettie, she was the daughter of committed Communist parents Jack and Ursula, a civil servant and feminist. Nettie was a vegetarian from infancy, and lost her sense of smell after being hit by a trolleybus. She followed Jack into King Alfred School, a progressive establishment in the London suburb of Golders Green.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information freely adapted from an obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], [https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In an interview with the London School of Economics (LSE), Nettie described feeling &amp;quot;out of place&amp;quot; as an adolescent. She felt she did not &amp;quot;fit in,&amp;quot; partly because of her underhung jaw, of which a dentist reportedly told her: &amp;quot;we can break your jaw and push it back; otherwise, how else are you going to get a boy?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417 Nettie Pollard [Semi-structured interview with Nettie Pollard of the British Gay Liberation Front conducted as part of research on the GLF badge.&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;] (London School of Economics / LSE, Gay Liberation Front Oral Histories project, 06/06/2023). Library source code: HCA/GLF/19/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1971, when Nettie was 21, she heard about the GLF. Her father Jack read about the GLF in a newspaper, and asked Nettie &amp;quot;this looks exciting, shall we go?&amp;quot; The pair went together to Covent Garden, where Nettie was stunned to discover people talking of revolution and non-monogamy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early Sexual Liberation and the GLF==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:874405314-555791042-Nettie 02.jpeg|200px|thumb|right|A young Nettie Pollard, likely pictured in the 1970s.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The first meeting of the Gay Liberation Front (GLF) took place on 13 October 1970, in a basement classroom at the London School of Economics. It was instigated by Aubrey Walters and Bob Mellors, who had been influenced by the development of the GLF in the USA following the Stonewall Riots. It was the beginning of a 3 year period of great activity, including demonstrations, debates, street theater, the establishment of a new gay press, and the establishment of communes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;An account of the GLF entitled &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles: an oral history of the Gay Liberation Front, 1970-1973&#039;&#039; was written by Lisa Power.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also, Aubrey Walter, &#039;&#039;Come Together: The Years of Gay Liberation 1970–73&#039;&#039; (1980).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As described in an obituary for Nettie by [[Peter Scott-Presland]], Nettie &amp;quot;threw herself into the counter-psychiatry group, which campaigned against the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Out of this group came the radical self-help group Icebreakers, of which she was a founder member. Rejecting “objectivity” in counselling, Icebreakers offered instead the positive role model of out and proud homosexuals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Op. cit.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The counter psychiatry group had started in 1970, and included [[Jeffrey Weeks]] and [[wikipedia:Mary_Susan_McIntosh|Mary McIntosh]] as members.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and McIntosh have been photographed together. See [https://archives.lse.ac.uk/records/MCINTOSH/M3765/15 Photograph (colour printout) showing McIntosh and others on stage at Gay Pride, 1995 for 25th Anniversary of Gay Liberation Front, annotated on reverse] [LSE Library Archives].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The group had published the pamphlet &#039;&#039;Psychiatry and the Homosexual: A brief analysis of oppression&#039;&#039; (1973), written by 6 gay men, before Nettie joined the group.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The document can be [https://www.scribd.com/document/596894250/Psychiatry-and-Homosexual read on Scribd].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It was in this group that [[wikipedia:Andrew_Hodges|Andrew Hodges]] first wrote about [[Alan Turing]] - then an unknown figure - which would eventually snowball and culminate in Turing become a revered homosexual icon (despite Turing likely being an [[MAP]] / boylover)...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://fstube.net/w/dPne9BxPAaL2ooYUDXbCht Alan Turing Documentary Excerpts] (Freespeechtube).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Andrew Hodges, [[wikipedia:Alan_Turing:_The_Enigma|Alan Turing: The Enigma]] (1983).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In videos including interviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and speeches&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Nettie often read out GLF activist John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands (pictured below).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Written in 1970 by the late John Chesterman. In September 1971, he organized the Gay Liberation Front’s disruptions of the anti-queer Festival of Light held in Trafalgar Square, Methodist Central Hall, &amp;amp; Hyde Park.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The demands, written as a poem, read in part: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;column-count:3;-moz-column-count:3;-webkit-column-count:3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::We believe [...] &lt;br /&gt;
::That every person has the right&lt;br /&gt;
::To develop and extend their&lt;br /&gt;
::Character and explore their&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexuality through relationships&lt;br /&gt;
::With any other human being,&lt;br /&gt;
::Without moral, social or political&lt;br /&gt;
::Pressure. [...]&lt;br /&gt;
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::To you, the others, we say&lt;br /&gt;
::We are not against you, but&lt;br /&gt;
::The prejudice that warps your&lt;br /&gt;
::Life, and ours&lt;br /&gt;
::It is not love that distorts,&lt;br /&gt;
::But hate.&lt;br /&gt;
::On your behalf, and ours,&lt;br /&gt;
::We demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::The same right to public&lt;br /&gt;
::Expressions of love and&lt;br /&gt;
::Affection as society grants&lt;br /&gt;
::To expressions of hate and scorn.&lt;br /&gt;
::The right to believe, without&lt;br /&gt;
::Harm to others, in public and&lt;br /&gt;
::Private, in any way we choose,&lt;br /&gt;
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::In any manner or style, with&lt;br /&gt;
::Any words and gestures, to wear&lt;br /&gt;
::Whatever clothes we like or to&lt;br /&gt;
::Go naked, to draw or write or&lt;br /&gt;
::Read or publish any material or&lt;br /&gt;
::Information we wish, at any&lt;br /&gt;
::Time and in any place.&lt;br /&gt;
::An end to the sexual propaganda&lt;br /&gt;
::That disturbs the innocence of&lt;br /&gt;
::Children, conditions their image&lt;br /&gt;
::Of human relationships and implants&lt;br /&gt;
::Guilt and nurturers shame for any&lt;br /&gt;
::Sexual feelings outside an&lt;br /&gt;
::Artificial polarity.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was often visibly emotional, nearly brought to tears, when reading them. For Nettie, these demands were &amp;quot;so moving and so profound, and [sic] such a long way away from equal rights and gay marriage. [...] It&#039;s to do with a completely different type of society, based on love. Really, that&#039;s what the Gay Liberation Front was about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;LSE video interview w/ Nettie and Michael Parks. Op. Cit. Speech quoted from 4:30 minutes in.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a small book titled &amp;quot;Rainbow Planet,&amp;quot; written by the Gay Liberation Front for the 50th Anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising (2019), Chesterman&#039;s demands are reproduced at the start with the authors asking  &amp;quot;How far do you think we&#039;ve got? We judge that worldwide John [the author] would be both proud and despairing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Rainbow Planet&#039;&#039; was written by queer journalist and gay liberation activist Andrew Lumsden, to mark the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Uprising of 1969. This text was given away during the London gay pride march on June 2019. It is [https://downloads.ctfassets.net/0ho16wyr4i9n/6xJNqzIndAbpkomZKYikED/0fe4e56e815ddd6c134cccff46360ce1/Rainbow_Planet.pdf available as a PDF online].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:216014574-231687873-John Chesterman GLF Demands 1970.png|200px|thumb|left|John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie wrote for &#039;&#039;Red Rag&#039;&#039;, the theoretical journal of the British women&#039;s movement.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Rag_(magazine) Red Rag (Wikipedia)]. For scans, see the [https://banmarchive.org.uk/red-rag/ online archive].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; As part of protesting with the GLF, Nettie participated in &amp;quot;kiss-ins&amp;quot; - a variation of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sit-in sit-ins] used to protest the fact that kissing in public was illegal for gays during this time. This activity carried serious risk. In an interview for Attitude Magazine, Nettie&#039;s friend Ted Brown stated that &amp;quot;people think we were being flippant [...] but the sentence for that kind of behavior could have been between 5 and 7 years in prison.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlmDLODvb-k The former Gay Liberation Front activist who&#039;s spent 50 years fighting for LGBTQ rights] (Youtube, Attitude Magazine, Jun 24, 2021).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie also participated in more traditional sit-ins where, for example, a bar or restaurant had refused to serve homosexuals or people in drag...   &lt;br /&gt;
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The London GLF set up the support group &amp;quot;Icebreakers&amp;quot; in the spring of 1973, with Nettie being a founding member. She was 1 of around 30 &#039;icebreakers&#039; who would participate in telephone helplines that people could call anonymously. Nettie described the rationale for Icebreakers as stemming from the fact that &amp;quot;in those days, almost no one was out.&amp;quot; Most people were too afraid of being outed to simply walk into an in-person meeting, but might become comfortable enough to do so if they already knew of people there who were sympathetic, understood their concerns, or had similar romantic and sexual feelings to themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie and and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF - Youtube. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Nettie Tatchell 1.jpg|thumb|right|Class of 72 (from left): Tom Robinson, Stuart Feather, Mair Twissell, Roz Kaveney, [[Peter Tatchell]], Andrew Lumsden, Ted Brown and Nettie Pollard. Photograph: Simon Webb/The Guardian.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nettie has been quoted as a source on GLF history in many books, including fellow GLF veteran Stuart Feather&#039;s &#039;&#039;Blowing the Lid: Gay Liberation, Sexual Revolution and Radical Queens&#039;&#039; (2016), &#039;&#039;No bath but plenty of bubbles&#039;&#039; by Lisa Power (1996), &#039;&#039;Queer Footprints&#039;&#039; (2023) by gay writer Dan Glass, and professional historians&#039; books such as &#039;&#039;The Way Out: A History of Homosexuality in Modern Britain&#039;&#039; (Buckle, 2015) and Lucy Robinson&#039;s &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain&#039;&#039; (2007).&lt;br /&gt;
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Notably, the British GLF organization had a London office at 5 Caledonian Road, which the media branch used to publish its writings. This included their official newspaper &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which ran for 16 issues from 1970 to 1973. This same address was used by the longstanding pacifist magazine &#039;&#039;Peace News&#039;&#039;, at one time edited by [[Roger Moody]], who was a friend of Nettie&#039;s until his death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of important historical note, Roger Moody was a British socialist and anti-war activist who has been described as the first person to openly declare himself a &amp;quot;paedophile&amp;quot; in print.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The GLF also had a Youth group for under 21s - then the male homosexual [[age of consent]] - which included members from age 12 and up. The youth group created a &amp;quot;Youth edition&amp;quot; of &#039;&#039;Come Together&#039;&#039;, which criticized [[Statutory_rape|age of consent laws]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Civil Liberties Activism, the NCCL and PIE==&lt;br /&gt;
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After leaving Icebreakers, Nettie joined the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), initially as a receptionist. She had put her GLF experience on her job application and, as a result, landed the embryonic Gay Rights brief. According to [[Peter Scott-Presland]], she transformed it. The NCCL&#039;s Lesbian and Gay Committee published the first detailed reports on discrimination in employment, policing and censorship between 1976 and 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
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Presland wrote that, &amp;quot;In the wake of partial decriminalization of sex between men, there was much discussion about the anomalies which remained. In April 1976, NCCL adopted proposals for an age of consent of 14, which it submitted to the Criminal Law Revision Commission. When NCCL disavowed this several years later, Nettie became something of a scapegoat and was doorstepped viciously as an alleged paedophile apologist at home by the News of the World while her partner was dying of cancer upstairs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland obituary. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1975Guardian.png|thumb|26th August 1975: Child-lovers win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)]]&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the 1970s, &amp;quot;paedophilia&amp;quot; had been an obscure category originating from psychiatry. The term only began to enter mass consciousness, the historian Nicholas Basannavar has argued, due intense media coverage - much of it negative and sensationalist - around PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://eprints.bbk.ac.uk/id/eprint/40384/1/FINAL%20SUBMISSION%20-%20Nick%20Basannavar.pdf Basannavar, Nicholas Ranjan Gadsby. (2019). Speaking about speaking about child sexual abuse in Britain, 1965-1991. [Thesis&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the late 1970s and early 80s, historians have argued that gay groups consolidated to present a more &#039;respectable&#039; image in the wake of the AIDS crisis, which occurred during periods of conservative backlash to the economic and sexual politics of the 60s and 70s.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[Steven Angelides]], &#039;&#039;The Fear of Child Sexuality&#039;&#039; (2019); See also, the work of [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Philip Jenkins]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before this point, critical thinking around [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex had been more common and socially acceptable to express. In 1976, for example, in a submission to the Criminal Law Revision Committee of the British Parliament, the NCCL argued that &amp;quot;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in, with an adult [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes|result in no identifiable damage]]... The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of paedophilia result in lasting damage&amp;quot;. The NCCL argued that the &amp;quot;onus of proof [was] on the prosecution to show that the child was actually harmed,&amp;quot; rather than having a blanket ban on [[child pornography]], and advocated the decriminalization of [[Research:_Double-Taboo_CSA|incest]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mason, Rowena. [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/24/harriet-harman-daily-mail-paedophile-campaign-allegations &amp;quot;Harriet Harman rejects allegations of 1970s link to paedophile campaign&amp;quot;]. &#039;&#039;The Guardian&#039;&#039;, Feb 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to British academic Christopher Moores (2017), &amp;quot;Pollard provided the main link between the NCCL and PIE.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christopher Moores, &#039;&#039;Civil liberties and Human Rights in Twentieth-Century Britain&#039;&#039; (Cambridge University Press, 2017), p. 195. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/22436a9783116d53bf7ab8527bea913f Annas Archive PDF link]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;She aligned paedophile rights with a broader politics of sexual liberation,&amp;quot; wrote Moores, &amp;quot;picking up on developing arguments that sexual values and ages of consent [...] were culturally and socially constructed, rather than biologically determined.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 195-196). &lt;br /&gt;
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Pollard spoke at [[PIE]]&#039;s AGM in 1977, offering legal advice about homosexuality and the law as well as supplying members with NCCL fact-sheets on arrests. In the same year, [[Thomas_O&#039;Carroll|O&#039;Carroll]] spoke at a conference on the treatment of sexual offenders in prison, organized by the NCCL Gay Rights Sub-Committee. When [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHSmith W. H. Smith] banned the newspaper &#039;&#039;Gay News&#039;&#039; in 1976 because the publication featured PIE&#039;s advertisements, Pollard argued on behalf of the NCCL that this amounted to [[censorship]] determined not by the law, but by ignorance and prejudice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid. pp. 196-197. The passages here are freely adapted from information in Moores (2017), with attribution.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst most of Nettie&#039;s published writing concerns debates about pornography, Moores found an archived letter addressed to the lesbian magazine &#039;&#039;Sequel&#039;&#039; and written under the name &#039;Nettie&#039;, in which the author described pedophiles as the &amp;quot;most horrifically oppressed of sexual minorities.&amp;quot; &#039;Nettie&#039; argued that the law should distinguish between tender and violent acts (&amp;quot;which no one in their right mind would condone&amp;quot;), concluding by stating that &amp;quot;some of the most equal and least exploitative relationships I know of between adults and children have been sexual ones.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., pp. 200-201).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Citation: ‘Nettie’, ‘Paedophilia’ in &#039;&#039;Sequel Magazine&#039;&#039;, undated article, U DCL 687/7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For Moores, it is &amp;quot;highly likely&amp;quot; that this letter was written by Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;given the letter&#039;s position in folders of material which she compiled.&amp;quot; (p. 201). The only other record of Nettie writing about [[MAP]] issues under her own name, comes from a 1993 book chapter called &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children,&amp;quot; which displays extremely similar language and ideas.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, both &#039;Nettie&#039;s&#039; argued that society refuses to take children&#039;s desires and ideas seriously...&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;      &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie commented that NCCL&#039;s part in &amp;quot;the battle for gay rights is a long and often boring one.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;, p. 194).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to Moores (p. 194): &amp;quot;The Sub-Committees tasks included lobbying for copies of Gay News to be delivered to prisons, encouraging provincial newspapers to publish adverts for gay switchboards and offering legal advice on prosecutions of gay men. It advised those seeking to ‘come out’, and individuals experiencing everyday challenges of publicly identifying and being identified as homosexual. Advice aside, most attention was given to issues around homosexuality and employment; monitoring individual cases and employment tribunals of those who felt they had been dismissed because of their sexual preferences. [...] If the association with PIE was problematic, it is crucial to mention that the volume and tone of the majority of correspondence on gay rights that came into the NCCL’s office, many of which are moving accounts of those who felt they did not belong, are reminders about the profound and varied inequalities in place for homosexuals in contemporary Britain.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unlike the Women&#039;s Rights Sub-Committee, the Gay Rights Sub Committee was more independent and sometimes detached from the rest of the organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;., p. 195. Quote: &amp;quot;The post of a gay rights officer was created following a targeted grant offered by a single wealthy individual to support the post. Those donating to the Sub-Committee often specified that money should be spent on gay rights work and not on the rest of the NCCL’s programme; it recruited its own volunteers, granting it a degree of autonomy.250 Nettie Pollard’s salary as gay rights organizer was covered by specific grants to be directed towards gay rights work. In fact, the Sub Committee was considered an ‘unofficial body’, further reducing the oversight of the NCCL Executive and leadership.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Whilst Nettie&#039;s job description covered ‘receptionist duties’, she also ran the organization&#039;s switchboard, generated most of&lt;br /&gt;
the Sub-Committee&#039;s paperwork, and was well-versed in legal issues relating to homosexuality (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;As Moores put it, &amp;quot;She connected her own politics and career choice with a wide and long-standing interest in civil rights. Seeing the world from such a perspective meant that Pollard was able to find continuities between less controversial issues typical of the NCCL&#039;s work, such as [...] supporting those discriminated against at work, and helping transsexuals forced into guilty pleas for soliciting, with the type of legal challenge raised by PAL and [[PIE]].&amp;quot; p. 195.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the [[age of consent]] for male sexual intercourse was 21 at the time but 16 for heterosexuals, it was widely argued that the age should be reduced to 16 for both sexes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moores, p. 196: &amp;quot;With the age of consent for male homosexuality in England and Wales so markedly out of sync with that for heterosexual intercourse, the GLF was particularly interested in the subject which was typically used to demonstrate the continuing patterns of inequality and discrimination in the sexual sphere. As conservative moral crusaders focussed on paedophilia in their efforts to preserve the unequal age of consent, certain groups saw the issue as the ‘next front’ in a longer-term battle against prejudice and in support of sexual liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This legal disparity, in addition to homosexuality still being highly stigmatized as &amp;quot;sinful,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;unnatural,&amp;quot; or a symptom of disease / mental illness, meant that teiliophilic homosexuals were more likely to criticize age of consent laws and support other non-normative sexual attractions and practices. Historians such as [[Rachel Hope Cleves]] have explained this phenomenon with reference to [[Gayle Rubin]]&#039;s theory of the &amp;quot;Charmed Circle,&amp;quot; where the boundaries of accepted sexual expression were once &amp;quot;so narrow that those who were cast outside its limits shared common ground.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rachel Hope Cleves, &#039;&#039;Unspeakable: A Life Beyond Sexual Morality&#039;&#039; (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 2020), p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Identity categories that are distant from each other today — like loose women, lesbians, and [[Pederasty|pederasts]] — were more proximate when they were all outside the charmed circle.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[[Pederasty]],&amp;quot; Cleves wrote, &amp;quot;was less taboo before the 1950s, in effect, because so many other behaviors were disreputable as well. Pederasty was less distinct from other types of sexual non-conformity.&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Because teiliophilic homosexuality was so taboo during Nettie&#039;s era, gay rights campaigners had what Moores (2017) calls &amp;quot;shared interests&amp;quot; in criticizing the [[age of consent]] and defending the civil liberties of other sexual minorities; i.e. &amp;quot;Pollard became sympathetic to PIE&#039;s endeavors.&amp;quot; (p. 196)... &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Gayle Rubin&#039;s charmed circle.png|200px|thumb|left|Gayle Rubin&#039;s &amp;quot;Charmed Circle&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
At some point, Nettie joined PIE, and was member number 70. In May 1975, [[PIE]] announced that it affiliated to the NCCL, which had joined following an invitation from Nettie. Both the first Chairperson of PIE - Keith Hose - and his successor [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] - were at times members of the NCCL&#039;s sub-committee for gay rights. For his influential book &#039;&#039;[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]&#039;&#039; (1980), O&#039;Carroll gave his &amp;quot;heartfelt thanks&amp;quot; to Nettie, [[Ken Plummer]], and [[Donald West]], &amp;quot;each of whom read the whole text in draft and made many valuable suggestions.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie was also active in the [[The_Campaign_Against_Public_Morals|Campaign Against Public Morals]], a group created to defend and support PIE members who faced legal battles for &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot; and speech offences in 1981, highlighting what she saw as &amp;quot;the absurdity of conspiracy laws&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Intensely loyal on a personal level,&amp;quot; wrote Presland, Nettie &amp;quot;supported individuals trapped by these catch-all offences through times of imprisonment and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The British art curator and gay activist [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-barry-prothero-1313047.html Barry Prothero] - Nettie&#039;s colleague and fellow NCCL Gay Rights Officer - attended some of the PIE trial proceedings. He wrote to gay rights campaigners in Canada such as [[Gerald Hannon]] of the &#039;&#039;Body Politic&#039;&#039;, and in correspondence named British diplomat [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hayman_(diplomat) Sir Peter Hayman] as the reason for a &#039;cover-up&#039; by the British authorities. &amp;quot;It is clear that most of the evidence that was not used was dropped because Hayman [...] was the central figure in its production,&amp;quot; he wrote, adding that &amp;quot;although assisting in a “cover-up” may be distasteful, not only the defendants but the entire gay movement in this country would be delighted if this one [i.e. cover-up] succeeded in order to keep the case out of court.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Moores (2017), Op. Cit. Pages 199-200.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During this period, two lawyers associated with the NCCL, Peter Thornton&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Very likely &amp;quot;Sir Peter Thornton, KC&amp;quot; - See his [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/sir-peter-thornton-1 KCL University profile] which describes his extensive work and writings on civil liberties issues, noting that &amp;quot;As Chair of the National Council for Liberties and the Civil Liberties Trust, he lobbied Parliament over the ‘sus’ law, identification evidence, confessions and the right to public protest.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Fulford Adrian Fulford] (later Lord Justice Fulford), the latter a member of the NCCL&#039;s Gay Rights Sub-Committee, defended members of PIE in court in the late 1970s and early 1980s - though not under NCCL auspices. According to Moores, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The NCCL was also concerned about issues of employment and privacy for individuals who had not committed any crimes. The ‘exposure’ of paedophiles in the media was, to its Gay Rights Sub Committee, very worrying. In particular, it expressed concern about the way in which a group of men, who had not been convicted or charged for offences, were described in the Sunday People exposure of PAL as the ‘Vilest Men in Britain’. The Gay Rights Sub-Committee supported [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]] when he was sacked from his post as Press Officer at the Open University (over which he was also defended by the National Union of Journalists and the Association of University Teachers, who feared that the case might set precedents for dismissing those with [[Communism|‘Marxist views’]])&amp;quot;. [...] Pollard and those on her sub-committee closely monitored attempts to prosecute PIE leaders [... and were] especially anxious about the charge of ‘conspiracy to corrupt public morals’. PIE members were charged on conspiracy, obscenity and postal offences; it is worth remembering that at the time no offences against children were raised and no evidence was produced that demonstrated that an adult met a child through PIE.&#039;&#039; (p. 198).&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The NCCL had some more general concerns,&amp;quot; Moores explains, &amp;quot;about the use of conspiracy charges during the 1970s, citing their misuse during industrial disputes, the trials of members of the Angry Brigade in 1972 and ways in which they were used as non-specific ‘catch-all’ mechanisms for policing&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;). In later years, the NCCL&#039;s relationship with [[PIE]] and past statements about [[pedophilia]] and age-gap sex were the subject of media scrutiny, implicating senior public figures such as [[Harriet Harman]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CHEPedophileSupport1983.jpg|thumb|CHE support for PIE (1983)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==PIE, CHE, and Youth Rights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard played a leading role in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality], who voted to support PIE at their 1975 conference, and defended PIE&#039;s &amp;quot;right to speak and organize freely&amp;quot; at their 1983 conference. Earlier in 1974, the C.H.E. made statements of solidarity with PIE at its annual conference, and included adverts for the group in its &#039;&#039;Bulletin&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 1974, CHE&#039;s Working Party on Law Reform proposed lowering the age of consent to sixteen, or twelve in some legal cases. At the time 200-300 youth, mostly young men between 16-20 years old, were being prosecuted for consensual homosexual acts every year. After internal review, in 1973, the idea of twelve for age of consent was dropped. In 1977, CHE passed a resolution at its conference, &amp;quot;supported by the vast majority of delegates&amp;quot;, which condemned press harassment of the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Source: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Wikipedia].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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CHE &amp;quot;urged caution in responding to PIE, noting ‘as victims of prejudice ourselves’ it was important to think about how wrong information and misconceptions ‘might prevent understanding’.&amp;quot; (Moores, 2017, p. 207). As late as 1984, when PIE was in the process of winding up, the CHE continued to recognize that pedophiles still had rights and that it would not ‘disown’ the organization. (&#039;&#039;Ibid&#039;&#039;).&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010/2011, CHE&#039;s annual report shows they had two PIE members on their Executive Commitee – [[Barry Cutler]] &amp;amp; Nettie Pollard. The links between gay rights groups, PIE, and gay activists such as Nettie, have been explored in historian Lucy Robinson&#039;s book &#039;&#039;Gay Men and the Left in Post-War Britain: How the Personal Got Political&#039;&#039; (Manchester University Press, 2007).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robinson, L. (2007). [http://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt155jf8t &#039;&#039;Gay men and the Left in post-war Britain: How the personal got political&#039;&#039;] (Manchester University Press).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Feminists Against Censorship and Later Years==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s, Nettie began to focus on defending the civil liberties of sex workers, porn viewers / producers, and arguing against pornography&#039;s criminalization more broadly. She summarized four then-recent books on pornography for the &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance&#039;&#039; in &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &amp;quot;The modern pornography debates&amp;quot;, in &#039;&#039;Libertarian Alliance Pamphlet&#039;&#039; No. 22 (1994). [[https://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/ncropa/ncropa-lib-10.pdf PDF Online]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; co-authored with Avedon Carol &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot; (1994),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol and Nettie Pollard, (1994). [https://heinonline.org/hol-cgi-bin/get_pdf.cgi?handle=hein.journals/tojmedlp15&amp;amp;section=45 &amp;quot;Only Words; Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography&amp;quot;], in &#039;&#039;Media Law &amp;amp; Practice&#039;&#039;, Vol. 15, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and authored a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996) - advertized as &amp;quot;True stories from some of the world&#039;s most pro-sex feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cherie Matrix; Feminists Against Censorship (Organization), &#039;&#039;Tales From The Clit: A Female Experience Of Pornography Female Experience Of Pornography&#039;&#039; (AK Press, 1996). [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/95a247e43fc3285f0e4345c201962436 Annas Archive PDF] link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1994, Nettie received an award for being a &amp;quot;Campaigner for Sexual Freedom,&amp;quot; from the Erotic Oscars (later renamed the [https://www.artandpopularculture.com/Erotic_Awards Sexual Freedom Awards]) - an annual event started by her friend Tuppy Owens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [https://grokipedia.com/page/Tuppy_Owens Tuppy Owens] - Grokpedia. Note that Tuppy Owens had a chapter in conversation with [[Tom O&#039;Carroll]], Chairperson of [[PIE]], in The [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|&#039;&#039;Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People&#039;&#039;]] (London: CL Publications, 1986). Tuppy Owens also has a chapter in &#039;&#039;Tales from the Clit: A Female Experience of Pornography&#039;&#039; (1996), cited above.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After being made redundant from the NCCL in 1997, Nettie joined [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminists_Against_Censorship Feminists Against Censorship]. She was prominent in the [[wikipedia:Operation_Spanner|1990s Spanner defense campaign]], where gay S/M practitioners had been prosecuted for consensual sex. &lt;br /&gt;
She also joined the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_for_Homosexual_Equality Campaign for Homosexual Equality]&#039;s executive committee in 2009, and campaigned for LGBT+ migrants and asylum seekers, including personally organizing finance and defense for several people whose chances of asylum were written off by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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During this time, Nettie published her most overt perspectives on [[MAP]] related issues, a book chapter titled &amp;quot;The Small Matter of Children.&amp;quot; Published in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039; (1993), edited by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Avedon Carol being Nettie&#039;s friend, the founder of Feminists Against Censorship, and co-author of &amp;quot;Changing Perceptions of the Feminist Debate&amp;quot; with Nettie in the same volume. See also, [https://grokipedia.com/page/avedon_carol Avedon Carol] - Grokpedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with contributions from [[Gayle Rubin]] and Tuppy Owens, Nettie argued that &amp;quot;The British [[Feminism|feminist movement]] has never really addressed the issue of children’s liberation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nettie Pollard, &#039;The Small Matter of Children,&#039; in &#039;&#039;Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism&#039;&#039;, ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111. [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nettie criticized how the women&#039;s movement &amp;quot;would sometimes even cooperate with the most vicious arms of the patriarchal state,&amp;quot; raising the case of anti-&#039;snuff film&#039; campaigns, of which Nettie maintained: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;To date, no ‘snuff’ movie, (i.e. where actors are actually killed), has been discovered by police anywhere in the world. No bodies have ever been discovered, and ‘Operation Orchid’ seems to have disappeared, but fear and loathing have been implanted in women&#039;s minds.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie argued that research has shown that &amp;quot;Far from being [[Childhood_Innocence|‘innocent’]] and becoming sexual at [[Adolescence|puberty]], as was once the common belief, it is now indisputable that everyone is sexual, [[Childhood_Innocence|even before birth]]. Erection in males is detected in the womb from 29 weeks [...] The vagina is responsive sexually from birth in cyclic lubrication.&amp;quot; (p. 108). She explains why past campaign groups (even those led by school students) have lacked involvement by younger children, and provides a lengthy description of [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|secondary victimization]] in cases of [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing]] but unlawful age-gap sex. For Nettie, &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;The current [[moral panic]] about child abuse has pushed back our recognition of children as sexual actors rather than as merely victims. Denial of children’s sexuality, and the fear that they may be sexually attacked, in fact makes them far more vulnerable to abusive situations. If children are informed about their bodies and how they function, and about what sexuality is, this awareness, in itself, means that children can be much less easily led into unwelcome situations by ignorance of what is really going on. If children know that their bodies and sexuality are their own and should be under their own control, and that sex is not forbidden or dirty, then they are much more confident when it comes to getting what they really want and refusing what they don’t want. In the event of a genuine assault or abusive situation, children who are not taught that sex is shameful can much more easily come forward, report the situation and get something done about it. (p. 109)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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She concludes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Creating an atmosphere in which sex is understood to be so acceptable in a non-violent, non-coercive, mutual environment does not teach children to accept brutal assaults; ignorance supported by scare tactics does not arm children against exploitative adults. Yet, in this over-protective and paternalistic time, scare tactics have become our sole means of ‘protecting’ children. We accept attacks on gays or on the porn industry because we have been conned into believing that somehow suppressing sexual adventure and deviance will automatically — illogically — provide some safety for children. It won&#039;t.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Yet merely eliminating harmful age of consent laws will not be sufficient to make children safe and free. To achieve this, children need social and economic power, as well as respect, in every sphere of life, for their needs and desires. Children must be taught as early as possible that their opinions matter, that their experience is valid, and that their bodies are their own possessions, that they can defend themselves against psychological, economic and physical abuses. Just as women couldn’t be autonomous while they were virtually owned by their husbands – we couldn’t own our own money, and it was entirely legal for husbands to beat and rape us – so children are left dependent and victimized by the present situation. Until children have economic power and the right to make their own decisions about choices ranging from schools, clothes and food to friendships and sexuality, children, like women, will not have sexual autonomy.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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Confined at home first by long Covid, and then by undiagnosed colorectal cancer, Nettie maintained a huge friendship network and an abiding concern with a variety of progressive causes. In the words of her friend, &amp;quot;She became a Queer National Treasure.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Presland. Op. cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Nettie Pollard died on Christmas Day, 2025, aged 76.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Gallery==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:609920541-218784087-Nettie 21.png|Nettie and her friend, fellow GLF veteran activist Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:966528151-420033740-Nettie 20.png|Nettie interviewed by Attitude Magazine in 2022, alongside [[Peter Tatchell]] and Ted Brown.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Nettie Tatchell 2.jpg|The 1971 GLF Miss World protest, with [[Peter Tatchell]] (on far right) and Nettie Pollard (second from right).&lt;br /&gt;
File:Tatchell 1972.jpg|Nettie&#039;s friends. L-R: Ted Brown, his partner Noel Glynn, and famous gay activist Peter Tatchell. Young Gay Liberation Front activists photographed in 1972.&lt;br /&gt;
File:559396947-460578928-Nettie 05.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:563879905-163949554-Nettie 06.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Members names listed. &lt;br /&gt;
File:667197312-350175245-Nettie 07.jpg|Nettie Pollard pictured / featured on the far-left, in &amp;quot;Are you Proud?&amp;quot; film poster. Her friend Ted Brown is pictured, as is [[Peter Tatchell]] (in a purple suit on the right). &lt;br /&gt;
File:456478275-973158936-Nettie 08.jpg|Nettie at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:209666243-369537062-Nettie 09.jpg|Nettie pictured next to GLF activist Noel Glynn, with her friend [[Peter Scott-Presland]] to the right of the picture. The banner / poster next to them refers to the British activist group &amp;quot;CHE&amp;quot; - the Campaign for Homosexual Equality - for which Presland has written the organization&#039;s official history. &lt;br /&gt;
File:255532816-331476931-Nettie 10.jpg|Nettie speaking at the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:550334764-417714961-Nettie 11.jpg|50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. [[Peter Tatchell]] is in the center.&lt;br /&gt;
File:777698522-297628350-Nettie 12.jpg|Ted Brown speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. Nettie Pollard stands in the background.&lt;br /&gt;
File:247662599-213194942-Nettie 13.jpg|A published historical profile of the GLF.&lt;br /&gt;
File:533196382-535113777-Nettie 14.jpg|Nettie speaking at an indoor event / after party hosted for the 50th anniversary of the GLF, London UK. &lt;br /&gt;
File:490009833-638400917-Nettie 03.jpeg|Nettie surrounded by Leftist books.&lt;br /&gt;
File:790812844-155098666-Nettie 04.jpeg|Nettie in her final days...&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjiJcIiCwvA Nettie Pollard and Michael Parkes on Icebreakers and GLF] (Video interview published on Youtube by LSE Library, Jul 19, 2024)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://digital.library.lse.ac.uk/Documents/Detail/nettie-pollard/638417?item=638418 Interview with Nettie Pollard] (audio only, transcript available) conducted in 2023 as part of LSE University&#039;s GLF Collections - an open-access online repository of documents and oral interviews with GLF activists.&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oiu-YluGtIM Nettie Pollard, original Gay Liberation Front activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s 1970 demands] (Posted to Youtube by Dan Glass, April 3rd, 2020) - Video description reads: &amp;quot;Nettie Pollard, Gay Liberation Front (GLF) activist, reading John Chesterman&#039;s original GLF demands from 1970 at the &#039;Absolute Freedom for all Party – Gay Liberation Front 50th Birthday Party&#039; - March 2020 at London School of Economics (LSE) - where it all began!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://gayliberationfrontuk.com/demands/ John Chesterman&#039;s Gay Liberation Front demands, written in 1970] - Nettie loved to quote them!&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.attitude.co.uk/life/nettie-pollard-obituary-lesbian-activist-civil-rights-515061/ Remembering Nettie Pollard: pioneering lesbian activist and civil rights campaigner] (&#039;&#039;Attitude Magazine&#039;&#039;, 2 March 2026) - Obituary by [[Peter Scott-Presland]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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