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2024-05-07T13:01:47Z

StefiBeaLipton: Standard anarchist MAP flag created by necromqncer.

== Summary ==
Standard anarchist MAP flag created by necromqncer.

Nathan Larson

2024-05-01T21:46:01Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Legal troubles */

__NOTOC__[[File:Nathanlarson.jpg|thumb|Nathan Larson, around 2017]]
'''Nathan Daniel Larson''' (September 19, 1980 – September 18, 2022)<ref>[https://www.newsweek.com/ex-politician-nathan-larson-who-wanted-legalize-child-porn-dies-custody-1752152 Nathan Larson dies in custody]</ref><ref>[https://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/109341/nathan-larson#.Wxla84oh2M8 Biography]</ref> was a Virginian American libertarian/independent politician, [[Hebephilia|hebephile]] and internet celebrity famous for the sites ''Rapey.co'',<ref>[https://www.change.org/p/the-fbi-needs-to-heavily-investigate-the-website-rapey-co-rapey-to-as-well-as-arrest-the-creator-and-active-user-nathan-larson Petition concerning Rapey]</ref> ''RationalWikiWikiWiki''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130222013440/http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page RationalWikiWikiWiki]</ref> and ''ChildWiki'' among others. He was considered central to the [[Incelosphere|incel/pedocel movement]] and peripheral to the [[MAP Movement]] in the late 00s and 10s. He is considered a highly divisive figure among MAPs, due not only to his views on race (he considered himself a "benevolent white supremacist") but because of his misogyny and apparent advocacy for [[rape]], which was likely insincere in part, but to a degree that is rarely agreed upon by most observers. As well as supporting the decriminalization of [[minor-adult sex]], Larson also favored the legalization of [[Child Pornography|child pornography]], polygyny and [[incest]]. He was against the US Government's foreign interventionism and regime change agenda, and against what he saw as Jewish domination of the American political and financial systems. Larson was for many years a high-profile inclusionist on [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]], going under the name ''Leucosticte''.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220625172936/https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2018-06-14/ty-article/.premium/this-hitler-loving-pedophile-running-for-u-s-congress/0000017f-e5e1-dc7e-adff-f5ede6500000 Haaretz (note, a polarized source as Larson is anti-Jewish) - on Larson's Wikipedia history]</ref> After his banning, he then went on to contribute to and found various chat rooms and wikis supporting topics as disparate as [[Incelosphere|inceldom]] and children's rights.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20170613055824/http://childwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ChildWiki]</ref>

==Legal troubles==

Larson was sentenced to sixteen months of prison but ended up serving fourteen months for the felony of threatening the President of the United States through an e-mail that was sent to the Secret Service in 2008.<ref>[https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/nathan-larson-admitted-pedophilia-advocate-kidnapping-charges-dies-in-custody "Fox TV Digital Team covering"]</ref> In 2020, after well publicized custody battles over his daughter, he was arrested at Denver International Airport for allegedly "kidnapping" a 12-year-old girl with whom he was having a voluntary, or consensual relationship by authorities who said they caught him flying across the country to Fresno, California.<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-pedophile-white-supremacist-arrested-kidnapping-12-yr-old-girl-n1251832 Swenson, Kyle. "Virginia man arrested over alleged plan to kidnap 12-year-old Calif. girl".]</ref> He was then held in custody for a length of time that suggests his detainment was political (related to various legally compliant clearnet websites he operated), and died in an Arizona facility in 2022 after having said to be on hunger strike.<ref>[https://archive.ph/Tqha8 "Suicide note"]</ref>

==External links==

*[https://omecasestatus.maricopa.gov/ Cause of death ("complications of Protein Calorie Malnutrition and Wernicke’s Encephalopathy")] '''[CASE NO 2022-09737]'''
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzXCdH_Qcg8 FOX31 Interview with his sister (after his death)] - Explains his activism as a mental illness and recycles the [[Research: Offender characteristics|"cyclical abuse"]] myth.

===Other wikis===

Various other wikis have produced highly disparate takes on Nathan Larson.

*[https://incels.wiki/w/Nathan_Larson Incels Wiki] - Somewhat slanted in his favor, and disagreeing with many of the below sources.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson_(politician) Wikipedia] - This article contains a full political and personal history.
*[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson RationalWiki] - Hyperbolic article from one of the Wikis he edited on. Contains some unsubstantiated claims about websites he operated. RationalWiki's editorial should not be taken at face value due to Larson's very personal connection with their editing team, and the fact that some of their editors earnestly believe they have been subjected to mental trauma at the hands of Nathan Larson, a manipulative monster.

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Child Pornography]][[Category:Cyber Activism]]
[[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: Wikipedians]]
[[Category:History & Events: American]][[Category:History & Events: 2000s]][[Category:History & Events: 2010s]][[Category:History & Events: Real Crime]][[Category:History & Events: Personal Scandals]]
[[Category:Incest]]

Nathan Larson

2024-04-30T15:54:20Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Legal troubles */

__NOTOC__[[File:Nathanlarson.jpg|thumb|Nathan Larson, around 2017]]
'''Nathan Daniel Larson''' (September 19, 1980 – September 18, 2022)<ref>[https://www.newsweek.com/ex-politician-nathan-larson-who-wanted-legalize-child-porn-dies-custody-1752152 Nathan Larson dies in custody]</ref><ref>[https://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/109341/nathan-larson#.Wxla84oh2M8 Biography]</ref> was a Virginian American libertarian/independent politician, [[Hebephilia|hebephile]] and internet celebrity famous for the sites ''Rapey.co'',<ref>[https://www.change.org/p/the-fbi-needs-to-heavily-investigate-the-website-rapey-co-rapey-to-as-well-as-arrest-the-creator-and-active-user-nathan-larson Petition concerning Rapey]</ref> ''RationalWikiWikiWiki''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130222013440/http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page RationalWikiWikiWiki]</ref> and ''ChildWiki'' among others. He was considered central to the [[Incelosphere|incel/pedocel movement]] and peripheral to the [[MAP Movement]] in the late 00s and 10s. He is considered a highly divisive figure among MAPs, due not only to his views on race (he considered himself a "benevolent white supremacist") but because of his misogyny and apparent advocacy for [[rape]], which was likely insincere in part, but to a degree that is rarely agreed upon by most observers. As well as supporting the decriminalization of [[minor-adult sex]], Larson also favored the legalization of [[Child Pornography|child pornography]], polygyny and [[incest]]. He was against the US Government's foreign interventionism and regime change agenda, and against what he saw as Jewish domination of the American political and financial systems. Larson was for many years a high-profile inclusionist on [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]], going under the name ''Leucosticte''.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220625172936/https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2018-06-14/ty-article/.premium/this-hitler-loving-pedophile-running-for-u-s-congress/0000017f-e5e1-dc7e-adff-f5ede6500000 Haaretz (note, a polarized source as Larson is anti-Jewish) - on Larson's Wikipedia history]</ref> After his banning, he then went on to contribute to and found various chat rooms and wikis supporting topics as disparate as [[Incelosphere|inceldom]] and children's rights.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20170613055824/http://childwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ChildWiki]</ref>

==Legal troubles==

Larson was sentenced to sixteen months of prison but ended up serving fourteen months for the felony of threatening the President of the United States through e-mail that was sent to the Secret Service in 2008.<ref>[https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/nathan-larson-admitted-pedophilia-advocate-kidnapping-charges-dies-in-custody "Fox TV Digital Team covering"]</ref> In 2020, after well publicized custody battles over his daughter, he was arrested at Denver International Airport for allegedly "kidnapping" a 12-year-old girl with whom he was having a voluntary, or consensual relationship by authorities who said they caught him flying across the country to Fresno, California.<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-pedophile-white-supremacist-arrested-kidnapping-12-yr-old-girl-n1251832 Swenson, Kyle. "Virginia man arrested over alleged plan to kidnap 12-year-old Calif. girl".]</ref> He was then held in custody for a length of time that suggests his detainment was political (related to various legally compliant clearnet websites he operated), and died in an Arizona facility in 2022 after having said to be on hunger strike.<ref>[https://archive.ph/Tqha8 "Suicide note"]</ref>

==External links==

*[https://omecasestatus.maricopa.gov/ Cause of death ("complications of Protein Calorie Malnutrition and Wernicke’s Encephalopathy")] '''[CASE NO 2022-09737]'''
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzXCdH_Qcg8 FOX31 Interview with his sister (after his death)] - Explains his activism as a mental illness and recycles the [[Research: Offender characteristics|"cyclical abuse"]] myth.

===Other wikis===

Various other wikis have produced highly disparate takes on Nathan Larson.

*[https://incels.wiki/w/Nathan_Larson Incels Wiki] - Somewhat slanted in his favor, and disagreeing with many of the below sources.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson_(politician) Wikipedia] - This article contains a full political and personal history.
*[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson RationalWiki] - Hyperbolic article from one of the Wikis he edited on. Contains some unsubstantiated claims about websites he operated. RationalWiki's editorial should not be taken at face value due to Larson's very personal connection with their editing team, and the fact that some of their editors earnestly believe that they have been subjected to mental trauma at the hands of Nathan Larson, a manipulative monster.

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Child Pornography]][[Category:Cyber Activism]]
[[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: Wikipedians]]
[[Category:History & Events: American]][[Category:History & Events: 2000s]][[Category:History & Events: 2010s]][[Category:History & Events: Real Crime]][[Category:History & Events: Personal Scandals]]
[[Category:Incest]]

Nathan Larson

2024-04-30T15:53:27Z

StefiBeaLipton:

__NOTOC__[[File:Nathanlarson.jpg|thumb|Nathan Larson, around 2017]]
'''Nathan Daniel Larson''' (September 19, 1980 – September 18, 2022)<ref>[https://www.newsweek.com/ex-politician-nathan-larson-who-wanted-legalize-child-porn-dies-custody-1752152 Nathan Larson dies in custody]</ref><ref>[https://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/109341/nathan-larson#.Wxla84oh2M8 Biography]</ref> was a Virginian American libertarian/independent politician, [[Hebephilia|hebephile]] and internet celebrity famous for the sites ''Rapey.co'',<ref>[https://www.change.org/p/the-fbi-needs-to-heavily-investigate-the-website-rapey-co-rapey-to-as-well-as-arrest-the-creator-and-active-user-nathan-larson Petition concerning Rapey]</ref> ''RationalWikiWikiWiki''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130222013440/http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page RationalWikiWikiWiki]</ref> and ''ChildWiki'' among others. He was considered central to the [[Incelosphere|incel/pedocel movement]] and peripheral to the [[MAP Movement]] in the late 00s and 10s. He is considered a highly divisive figure among MAPs, due not only to his views on race (he considered himself a "benevolent white supremacist") but because of his misogyny and apparent advocacy for [[rape]], which was likely insincere in part, but to a degree that is rarely agreed upon by most observers. As well as supporting the decriminalization of [[minor-adult sex]], Larson also favored the legalization of [[Child Pornography|child pornography]], polygyny and [[incest]]. He was against the US Government's foreign interventionism and regime change agenda, and against what he saw as Jewish domination of the American political and financial systems. Larson was for many years a high-profile inclusionist on [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]], going under the name ''Leucosticte''.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220625172936/https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2018-06-14/ty-article/.premium/this-hitler-loving-pedophile-running-for-u-s-congress/0000017f-e5e1-dc7e-adff-f5ede6500000 Haaretz (note, a polarized source as Larson is anti-Jewish) - on Larson's Wikipedia history]</ref> After his banning, he then went on to contribute to and found various chat rooms and wikis supporting topics as disparate as [[Incelosphere|inceldom]] and children's rights.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20170613055824/http://childwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ChildWiki]</ref>

==Legal troubles==

Larson was sentenced to sixteen months of prison but ended up serving fourteen months in prison for the felony of threatening the President of the United States through e-mail that was sent to the Secret Service in 2008.<ref>[https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/nathan-larson-admitted-pedophilia-advocate-kidnapping-charges-dies-in-custody "Fox TV Digital Team covering"]</ref> In 2020, after well publicized custody battles over his daughter, he was arrested at Denver International Airport for allegedly "kidnapping" a 12-year-old girl with whom he was having a voluntary, or consensual relationship by authorities who said they caught him flying across the country to Fresno, California.<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-pedophile-white-supremacist-arrested-kidnapping-12-yr-old-girl-n1251832 Swenson, Kyle. "Virginia man arrested over alleged plan to kidnap 12-year-old Calif. girl".]</ref> He was then held in custody for a length of time that suggests his detainment was political (related to various legally compliant clearnet websites he operated), and died in an Arizona facility in 2022 after having said to be on hunger strike.<ref>[https://archive.ph/Tqha8 "Suicide note"]</ref>

==External links==

*[https://omecasestatus.maricopa.gov/ Cause of death ("complications of Protein Calorie Malnutrition and Wernicke’s Encephalopathy")] '''[CASE NO 2022-09737]'''
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzXCdH_Qcg8 FOX31 Interview with his sister (after his death)] - Explains his activism as a mental illness and recycles the [[Research: Offender characteristics|"cyclical abuse"]] myth.

===Other wikis===

Various other wikis have produced highly disparate takes on Nathan Larson.

*[https://incels.wiki/w/Nathan_Larson Incels Wiki] - Somewhat slanted in his favor, and disagreeing with many of the below sources.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson_(politician) Wikipedia] - This article contains a full political and personal history.
*[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson RationalWiki] - Hyperbolic article from one of the Wikis he edited on. Contains some unsubstantiated claims about websites he operated. RationalWiki's editorial should not be taken at face value due to Larson's very personal connection with their editing team, and the fact that some of their editors earnestly believe that they have been subjected to mental trauma at the hands of Nathan Larson, a manipulative monster.

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Child Pornography]][[Category:Cyber Activism]]
[[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: Wikipedians]]
[[Category:History & Events: American]][[Category:History & Events: 2000s]][[Category:History & Events: 2010s]][[Category:History & Events: Real Crime]][[Category:History & Events: Personal Scandals]]
[[Category:Incest]]

Nathan Larson

2024-04-30T15:50:07Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Legal troubles */

__NOTOC__[[File:Nathanlarson.jpg|thumb|Nathan Larson, around 2017]]
'''Nathan Daniel Larson''' (September 19, 1980 – September 18, 2022)<ref>[https://www.newsweek.com/ex-politician-nathan-larson-who-wanted-legalize-child-porn-dies-custody-1752152 Nathan Larson dies in custody]</ref><ref>[https://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/109341/nathan-larson#.Wxla84oh2M8 Biography]</ref> was a Virginian American libertarian/independent politician, [[Hebephilia|hebephile]] and internet celebrity famous for the sites ''Rapey.co'',<ref>[https://www.change.org/p/the-fbi-needs-to-heavily-investigate-the-website-rapey-co-rapey-to-as-well-as-arrest-the-creator-and-active-user-nathan-larson Petition concerning Rapey]</ref> ''RationalWikiWikiWiki''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20130222013440/http://en.rationalwikiwikiwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page RationalWikiWikiWiki]</ref> and ''ChildWiki'' among others. He was considered central to the [[Incelosphere|incel/pedocel movement]] and peripheral to the [[MAP Movement]] in the late 00s and 10s. He is considered a highly divisive figure among MAPs, due not only to his views on race (he considered himself a "benevolent white supremacist") but because of his misogyny and apparent advocacy for [[rape]], which was likely insincere in part, but to a degree that is rarely agreed upon by most observers. As well as supporting the decriminalization of [[minor-adult sex]], Larson also favored the legalization of [[Child Pornography|child pornography]], polygyny and [[incest]]. He was against the US Government's foreign interventionism and regime change agenda, and against what he saw as Jewish domination of the American political and financial systems. Larson was for many years a high-profile inclusionist on [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]], going under the name ''Leucosticte''.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220625172936/https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/2018-06-14/ty-article/.premium/this-hitler-loving-pedophile-running-for-u-s-congress/0000017f-e5e1-dc7e-adff-f5ede6500000 Haaretz (note, a polarized source as Larson is anti-Jewish) - on Larson's Wikipedia history]</ref> After his banning, he then went on to contribute to and found various chat rooms and wikis supporting topics as disparate as inceldom and children's rights.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20170613055824/http://childwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page ChildWiki]</ref>

==Legal troubles==

Larson was sentenced to sixteen months of prison but ended up serving fourteen months in prison for the felony of threatening the President of the United States through e-mail that was sent to the Secret Service in 2008.<ref>[https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/nathan-larson-admitted-pedophilia-advocate-kidnapping-charges-dies-in-custody "Fox TV Digital Team covering"]</ref> In 2020, after well publicized custody battles over his daughter, he was arrested at Denver International Airport for allegedly "kidnapping" a 12-year-old girl with whom he was having a voluntary, or consensual relationship by authorities who said they caught him flying across the country to Fresno, California.<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alleged-pedophile-white-supremacist-arrested-kidnapping-12-yr-old-girl-n1251832 Swenson, Kyle. "Virginia man arrested over alleged plan to kidnap 12-year-old Calif. girl".]</ref> He was then held in custody for a length of time that suggests his detainment was political (related to various legally compliant clearnet websites he operated), and died in an Arizona facility in 2022 after having said to be on hunger strike.<ref>[https://archive.ph/Tqha8 "Suicide note"]</ref>

==External links==

*[https://omecasestatus.maricopa.gov/ Cause of death ("complications of Protein Calorie Malnutrition and Wernicke’s Encephalopathy")] '''[CASE NO 2022-09737]'''
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzXCdH_Qcg8 FOX31 Interview with his sister (after his death)] - Explains his activism as a mental illness and recycles the [[Research: Offender characteristics|"cyclical abuse"]] myth.

===Other wikis===

Various other wikis have produced highly disparate takes on Nathan Larson.

*[https://incels.wiki/w/Nathan_Larson Incels Wiki] - Somewhat slanted in his favor, and disagreeing with many of the below sources.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson_(politician) Wikipedia] - This article contains a full political and personal history.
*[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Nathan_Larson RationalWiki] - Hyperbolic article from one of the Wikis he edited on. Contains some unsubstantiated claims about websites he operated. RationalWiki's editorial should not be taken at face value due to Larson's very personal connection with their editing team, and the fact that some of their editors earnestly believe that they have been subjected to mental trauma at the hands of Nathan Larson, a manipulative monster.

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Child Pornography]][[Category:Cyber Activism]]
[[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: Wikipedians]]
[[Category:History & Events: American]][[Category:History & Events: 2000s]][[Category:History & Events: 2010s]][[Category:History & Events: Real Crime]][[Category:History & Events: Personal Scandals]]
[[Category:Incest]]

Age of majority

2024-04-26T18:50:29Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Historical age of majority */

The age of majority is the legal threshold of which a person is legally declared as an adult.<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/what-age-of-majority-means-its-definition-and-usage-882666</ref> It is the moment when a person ceases to be considered a [[minor]] and assumes legal control over their person, actions, and decisions, thus terminating the control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over them, having gained the rights to be able to vote in elections, to buy tobacco and cigarettes and get a tattoo.<ref>https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1969/46</ref> Most countries set the age of majority at 18, but some jurisdictions have a higher or lower age than others.

Although easily confounded with one another, the age of majority is not the same as the [[age of consent]].<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/age-of-majority-chart-2300968</ref>

==Historical age of majority==

<blockquote>''Variations in the age of the sovereign's majority could be found as in the case of the majority of others. The King of Denmark came of age at fourteen, according to Lacombein his history of the ancient kings of the northern European countries. This custom would be referable to a period prior to the tenth century. "At that age the King would declare publicly that he wished no longer to have the services of a tutor." 3 Gothic kings seem frequently to have come of age at fifteen, for example Childebert II in 585 A.D. The aristocracy would have been influenced by the royal example; but, inevitably, the qualifications for majority were different. Thus, in his Memoirs of Ancient Chivalry, St. Palaye records that the minority of the nobles in France ended at seventeen, "because they were then judged strong enough and sufficiently qualified for the culture of their lands, the mechanic arts and commerce in which they were all employed."<ref>https://academic.oup.com/ajlh/article-abstract/4/1/22/1800081?redirectedFrom=fulltext</ref> (T. E. James)</blockquote>

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Law/Crime]]
[[Category:Youth]]
[[Category:Terminology: Legal & Law Enforcement‎]]
[[Category:Terminology]]

Age of majority

2024-04-24T18:03:55Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Historical age of majority */

The age of majority is the legal threshold of which a person is legally declared as an adult.<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/what-age-of-majority-means-its-definition-and-usage-882666</ref> It is the moment when a person ceases to be considered a [[minor]] and assumes legal control over their person, actions, and decisions, thus terminating the control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over them, having gained the rights to be able to vote in elections, to buy tobacco and cigarettes and get a tattoo.<ref>https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1969/46</ref> Most countries set the age of majority at 18, but some jurisdictions have a higher or lower age than others.

Although easily confounded with one another, the age of majority is not the same as the [[age of consent]].<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/age-of-majority-chart-2300968</ref>

==Historical age of majority==

<blockquote>''Variations in the age of the sovereign's majority could be found as in the case of the majority of others. The King of Denmark came of age at fourteen, according to Lacombein his history of the ancient kings of the northern European countries. This custom would be referable to a period prior to the tenth century. "At that age the King would declare publicly that he wished no longer to have the services of a tutor." 3 Gothic kings seem frequently to have come of age at fifteen, for example Childebert II in 585 A.D. The aristocracy would have been influenced by the royal example; but, inevitably, the qualifications for majority were different. Thus, in his Memoirs of Ancient Chivalry, St. Palaye records that the minority of the nobles in France ended at seventeen, "because they were then judged strong enough and sufficiently qualified for the culture of their lands, the mechanic arts and commeree in which they were all employed."<ref>https://academic.oup.com/ajlh/article-abstract/4/1/22/1800081?redirectedFrom=fulltext</ref> (T. E. James)</blockquote>

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]]
[[Category:Law/Crime]]
[[Category:Youth]]
[[Category:Terminology: Legal & Law Enforcement‎]]
[[Category:Terminology]]

Pediverse

2024-04-24T16:25:49Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Video sharing */

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

Some of these servers host other platforms, such as decentralized video sharing ([[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]]).

===Generally considered safe===

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that appears to have some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It runs on Lemmy, an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. It should be noted that the creator of this instance has stated they will not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]].

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''Lolison.network (runs on Pleroma)'''

::Membership by application.

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available. As of 2024, these had between 30 and 200 users: oddballs.online, tummy.town, monk.ey.business, Cannibal.cafe, rape.pet, ghetti.monster, mapsupport.de, paravielfalt.zone, lit.tleplace.xyz.

===Ambiguous, or potentially compromised===

*'''Pawoo.net (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended.

===Known to be hostile or compromised===

*'''NNIA.space and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."'' </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::Our harsh rating here is given out on a precautionary basis. A median view in the MAP community is that the administrators of NNIA and content creators of [[MAP Wiki]] are [[anti]]s who happen to be self-confessed MAPs for whatever reason. More extreme views have been aired, suggesting NNIA is run by federal agents and/or "self-loathing" MAPs, although these would seem unlikely given their low profile, and lack of online marketing and presentational skills.

::<nowiki>*</nowiki>The NNIA instance manager is known to doxx (share private information about) and permit the doxxing of MAPs, and was defederated from Freak.university prior to the demise of said instance. A mentally ill teenager who had risen to a high-ranking position with the encouragement of said administrator/manager was also defederated from the influential instance.

::NNIA has also been implicated in the creation of false identities to slander other servers. Another point of concern for community cohesion, is that its admin once stated that older MAP communities were ''"mostly [[Hebephilia|hebe]] and [[Ephebophilia|ephebo]] oriented ''[...]'' and we don't need it back"''. As NNIA's power and share of the community has slowly waned, the admin has created a private instance (NNIA.cc) invisible to all other instances, and taken to lashing out at other instances, accusing them of normalizing sex with babies and hosting [[Child Pornography]] (without substance).

===Defunct===

*'''Childlove.su - formerly Childlove.space (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives such as '''cunnyborea.space'''. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, domains suspended]'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo is generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which have both suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (below), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Is relatively easy to join, and known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''freak.university''', '''lolison.chat''', '''crypted.cafe''' and these may sometimes permit sharing of [[lolicon]] type manga. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==Video sharing==

See [[FreeSpeechTube]], a peertube instance with over 200 registered users.

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[http://nnia.space NNIA.space]
*[http://chat.yesmap.net Yesmap Chat] ([[Help:Joining PCMA chat|joining instructions]])
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

Age of Consent

2024-04-23T11:21:36Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* See also */

__NOTOC__[[File:Consent.png|thumb|The British National Council for One Parent Families supported abolition in 1979]]
The '''Age of [[Consent]]''' is an arbitrary age at which a person is considered legally capable of consenting to sex within a given country (or with a citizen of that country anywhere in the world, if it has extraterritorial jurisdiction laws). Where a country's age of consent laws for sexual activity treat people convicted of those offences with the same severity as criminal [[rape]], the law is often referred to as [[statutory rape]].

This definition highlights several important factors which go into determining the age of consent. To begin with, it is arbitrary. In other words, the age is not chosen based on an empirical and measurable personal quality which relates to the capacity for consent, but rather, it is chosen as a compromise number based largely on political, social, psychological and judicial precedent factors in a legislative process often only marginally related to the actual capabilities of the individuals to which it is applied. This is seen as necessary when such an age must be determined, despite the fact that no two individuals mature at precisely the same rate.

Another important factor is that of jurisdiction. A jurisdiction represents the abstract collection of individuals over whom a certain legal institution has authority. As a direct consequence of the arbitrariness of the age of consent, the actual number varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. An individual who may be capable of legally consenting in one area may, simply by crossing a border, find that his consent is no longer valid.

==Current debate==

Recent years have seen a general trend towards decriminalizing, or at least destigmatizing sexual acts which carry a burden of moral guilt, but no substantiated evidence of harm. HIV nondisclosure is one such example,<ref>[https://thecanadiandailynews.com/news/canada/former-barrie-ont-womans-conviction-for-hiv-non-disclosure-overturned/ HIV transmission laws are being described as unscientific]</ref> and similar trends have been seen in sex-work advocacy, [[Research: Recidivism and other offending figures|SOL Reform]] and sex education, the latter leading to accusations of so-called [[grooming]]. It appears there is an [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|evidentiary base]] for making similar arguments with respect to voluntary minor-adult sex, although critical mass has not yet been reached for such substantial moves.

The following positions on the age of consent are not strict categories:

*The '''authoritarian''' position holds that current age of consent laws are set at inadequately low ages, and should be revised, in some cases as high as 21 or 25. This position is sometimes based more on antipathy towards sexual behavior among young people rather than extensive authoritarian protectionism.
*The '''conservative''' position (not necessarily right-leaning conservatism) holds that current age of consent laws are appropriate and should be enforced as they stand. This would segue into a globalist conservative position holding that jurisdictions with lower ages of consent should bring themselves up to parity with jurisdictions with higher ones.
*The '''libertarian''' or '''reformist''' position holds that while at least in the cultures concerned, age of consent in itself is a valid and desirable concept, the current numbers are too high or unrealistic and should be revised downwards. This might take the form of an [[Ethos of Newgon|elective system]] whereby a minor chooses to emancipate themselves in various areas, including consent to physical relationships.
*The '''replacement''' position holds that the concept of age of consent is not valid for its purported purpose and should be replaced with another system of determining capability to legally consent. The replacements most typically take the form of marriage, or some type of preparation or education, examination or empirically graded "test" to determine whether an individual is "ready", sometimes coupled with licensing schemes.
*The '''repeal''' position holds that the concept of age of consent should be eliminated completely.

===Poll in Britain===
On November 16, 2003 Channel 4 broadcast a program; "Sex Before 16: Why the Law is Failing" and afterwards conducted a phone poll of its viewers in the United Kingdom.

Of the 3366 respondents to the four options;
*34% thought the age of consent should be reduced to 14
*35% thought it should stay at 16
*13% thought it should be raised to 18
*18% thought it should be abolished<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20031124074934/http://www.channel4.com/health/microsites/A/adultat14/consent/aoc_vote.shtml</ref>

Whilst this would suggest that there is more potential to lower the age, the topic remains controversial, and the Channel 4 viewer sample was questionably left-libertarian biased.

===Popular opinion===

It is generally hard to gauge popular opinion on this topic, due to a dearth of reliable polling. '''Debate.org''' conducted a poll, in which over 2/3rds supported reform, with many radical proposals. Between 2008 and some unknown point, '''"misterpoll.com"''' published a large list of questions related to the Age of Consent. Their respondents, mainly men, answered mostly between the years of 2008 and 2011. Over half did not support the idea of an age of consent, and 86% agreed that minors should be able to perform in a strip tease. It is unclear how representative this sample is.<ref>[https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/332845/results MisterPoll Results] and [https://web.archive.org/web/2011*/https://www.misterpoll.com/polls/332845/results Misterpoll Archived Results]</ref>

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===The UN===

A 2023 controversy arose on social media<ref>[https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/un-backed-legal-recommendations-normalize-sex-minors-critics-say New UN-backed legal recommendations normalize sex with minors, outraged critics say]</ref> following the publication of new legal principles problematizing the idea that adolescents are inherently unable to [[consent]], including to sex. American conservatives reacted by circulating the theory that such opinions represent an attempt to "soften up" the public prior to the release of supposedly "damning" information concerning [[Jeffrey Epstein]]'s high-profile visitors.

==Ages of consent around the world==
[[File:Unrestricted hetero AoC.png|250px|right|thumb|''Unrestricted'' heterosexual ages of consent by legislation: The law of that country or state dictates that any sane and sober person who is this age or older is able to consent to sexual acts with the opposite sex, regardless of any other factor, such as age difference or hierarchy between the partners. The law may still forbid prostitution (paying for sex) or filming/photographing the acts if an underage partner is involved, but the act in itself is legal.]]
[[File:Authority-only restricted hetero AoC.png|250px|right|thumb|Authority-restricted heterosexual ages of consent by legislation: The law of that country or state dictates that any sane and sober person who is this age or older and ''is not a subordinate to the older partner'' (i.e. the older partner is not their boss, teacher, etc.) is able to consent to sexual acts with the opposite sex.]]
:''For a short analysis of the historical context behind AoC laws and their interpretation, see our article on [[Consent]]. Given the constantly changing nature of AoC laws, an up-to-date list can not be provided here. See [[Wikipedia:Ages of consent by country|Wikipedia]].''

Some interesting examples of low ages of consent include Japan<ref>[https://www.ageofconsent.net/world/japan AoC.net - Japan]</ref> (who appear to be raising it<ref>[https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230314/p2g/00m/0na/027000c Japan OKs bill to reform sexual offense charge, raise age of consent]</ref> under Western pressure), Brazil and Peru. The case of Brazil is described at length, in the document, ''Sexuality, the age of consent and the Brazilian law'', which describes among other things, proposals in the 10s, to reduce the age from 14 to 12.<ref>[https://pedrapapeletesoura.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/sexualitytheageofconsentandthebrazilianlaw/ Sexuality, the age of consent and the Brazilian law, by Yure]</ref> India has faced similar calls, based upon the sheer number of adolescents engaged in illegal sexual activity.<ref>[https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-63953752 Age of consent: Why is consensual teen sex a crime in India?]</ref>

While the federal age of consent in Mexico is 15, state laws often override federal law, and state ages of consent vary from 12 to 15. The state law of Nayarit specifies that a person must have reached puberty in order to consent with sex. However, the state age of consent is not unrestricted and factors such as age difference and hierarchical subordination of the younger partner may play a role.

The age of consent in the Philippines was 12 until 2022, when it was raised to 16.<ref>[https://www.cnnphilippines.com/news/2022/3/7/Age-of-sexual-consent-Philippines-law.html PH raises age of sexual consent from 12 to 16]. CNN Philippines. March 7, 2022.</ref>

In the late 70s, New Jersey lowered its age of consent to 13, amid sweeping law reforms. It was raised soon after, but only because of public outcry, not any increase in sexual victimization.<ref>[https://www.nytimes.com/1979/08/12/archives/new-jersey-law-changes-reflect-the-new-morality-a-compilation-from.html Waldron in NYT: A Decade in the Making, the State's First Criminal Code Takes Effect Next Month]</ref> A 2018 act reduced the age of consent in Malta, albeit to fall in line with the rest of Europe at 16. The same act also reduced the voting age to 16.<ref>[https://lovinmalta.com/news/local/the-age-of-consent-in-malta-has-been-lowered/ The Age Of Consent In Malta Has Been Lowered - J. Cilia for Lovin Malta]</ref>

===The case of the Netherlands===
Much discussion has been devoted to the age of consent in the Netherlands. According to a law passed in 1989 (after a much longer period of unofficial liberalization<ref>[https://www.greek-love.com/index.php/modern-europe/netherlands/dutch-policemen-understood-pederasty Dutch Policemen who understood pederasty - Brongersma]</ref>), even though the age of consent was set at 16, sex between an adult and a young person between 12 and 16 was not an offence if the young person consented to the contact. Prosecutions for coercive sex could be sought by the young person or his/her parents.

The law which stirred much discussion (see Schuijer 1991, 1993, 1995, Faust 1995) and praised as positive for adolescent sexuality ([[Judith Levine|Levine]] 2002, 89) was later repealed in 2002 by a very rare unanimous vote in the Dutch parliament ([[Gert Hekma|Hekma]] 2004).

===Initiatives to lower the UK Age of Consent===

At around the turn of the century, a [[Youth Perspectives|poll of 12-16 year old British girls suggested that the age should be lowered to 12]]. Activists such as [[Peter Tatchell]] have long sought to lower the age, arguing that this would be more in line with the lived experiences of young people. In 2013, a leading public health official called for a moderate reduction, but leaders only appeared to be amenable to a close in age exemption and not a "blanket reduction".<ref>[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/17/no-10-rejects-lower-age-consent-sex No 10 rejects call to lower age of consent]</ref>

Earlier (in the 70s and 80s), the British National Council for One Parent Families (image inset) had even advocated for abolition, being [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|joined by various Gay and MAP groups]]. In 1979, close to the peak of liberal attitudes on this topic, even the Home Office argued that the age of consent be lowered from 16 to 14, calling for a dramatic reduction in statutory punishments for consensual sex with girls as young as 12 in an internal research study obtained by the Guardian.<ref>[https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/08/lower-age-consent-14-1979-home-office-report Whitehall study wanted age of consent lowered to 14 and sentences for sex cut]</ref>

==Reasons for increasing the Age of Consent==

As explained by [[Wikipedia:Age of consent#History and social attitudes|Wikipedia]], ages of consent were often set around the age of puberty or marriage until the reforms of the 19th and 20th Centuries, and were very much open to interpretation. In postindustrial Victorian England, changing attitudes around the institution of childhood and prologation of education, aided by Christian/Feminist Social Purity campaigners, [[Moral Enterprise|moral entrepreneurs]] and journalists such as W. T. Stead, - led to changes that spread the world over.

It is important to note that ages of consent were not initially raised and enforced for the same reasons we presently uphold them:

:''“Sexual consent is now understood by many – although not all – as a marker of when girls (and boys) are ‘allowed’ or likely to have sexual intercourse as much as a signifier of their capacity to consent. For the Victorians, sexual consent was certainly not a recommended or permitted age of sexual activity. The 1885 law on sexual consent meant, to cite the 1908 Royal Commissioners on the Care and Control of the Feeble-Minded, that ‘[t]he power of consenting to unlawful defilement … '''has been taken from girls under sixteen'''’. This wording is significant: the right to consent was ‘taken away’ from girls under the age of consent, rather than given to those above it. Few commentators approved of sexual intercourse outside of marriage, which was expected to occur in the mid-20s rather than at the legal age of marriage (14 for boys and 12 for girls) or age of sexual consent.”''<ref>[https://www.historyandpolicy.org/policy-papers/papers/the-legacy-of-1885-girls-and-the-age-of-sexual-consent The legacy of 1885: girls and the age of sexual consent, by Victoria Bates]</ref> [our emphasis]

Oftentimes, when opposition to British-style increased age of consent statutes was voiced during the empire's fall, it took the form of an anti-imperialist argument.<ref>[https://sumitamukherjee.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/sarda-act-article-version.pdf Sumita Mukherjee, ‘Using the Legislative Assembly for Social Reform: The Sarda Act 1929’, South Asia Research, 26, 3, (November 2006).] ''There were also political and nationalist concerns for reformers within the Legislative Assembly. In the 1890s, the nationalist leader Bal Gandadhar Tilak had been opposed to the Age of Consent Bill because he did not want India’s advancement to be dependent upon British help. Now that Indians were more involved and represented in the debating chamber, they could argue that their advancement was no longer dependent upon the British.''</ref>

==See also==

*[[Consent]] - Explores the concept and links to specific articles on Newgon.
*[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent]]
*[[Mature Minor]]
*[[Age of majority]]

==External links==

*[https://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/teaching-modules/230.html Age of Consent Laws - Summary article by Stephen Robertson]
*[https://www.scarleteen.com/article/abuse_assault/the_age_of_consent_for_what_exactly The age of consent... for what, exactly?] - Heather Corinna, for ''Scarleteen''.
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_reform AoC Reform - Wikipedia]
*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_by_country The definitive list] - Ages of consent on Wikipedia.
*[https://secure.boychat.org/messages/1607318.htm Reading list - published on BC]

==References and further reading==
*Baker, C. (1983) [https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1177/144078338301900105 "The Age of Consent Controversy: Age and Gender As Social Practice."] Australian & New Zealand Journal of Sociology 19(1): 96-112.
*Baurmann, M. (2005) "[https://sci-hub.se/https://doi.org/10.1300/J056v16n02_07 Sexuality, Adolescence and the Criminal Law: The Perspective of Criminology.]" Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality 16(2/3): 71-88.
*Böllinger, L. (2005) [https://sci-hub.se/10.1300/j056v16n02_08 "Adolescence, Sexual Aggression and the Criminal Law."] Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality 16(2/3): 89-104.
*[[Edward Brongersma|Brongersma, E.]] (1980) [https://academic.oup.com/bjc/article/20/1/20/378071 "The meaning of 'indecency' with respect to moral offences involving children."] British Journal of Criminology 20(1): 20-34.
*[[Edward Brongersma|Brongersma, E.]] (1988) [https://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/brong_88_frame.htm "A Defence of Sexual Liberty for All Age Groups."] Howard Journal of Criminal Justice 27(1): 32-43.
*Brown, M. (1996) [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13572339608420468 "The Age of Consent: The Parliamentary Campaign in the UK to Lower the Age of Consent for Homosexual Acts."] Journal of Legislative Studies 2(2): 1-7.
*[[Vern Bullough|Bullough, V. L.]] (2005) [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J056v16n02_03 "Age of Consent: A Historical Overview."] Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality 16(2/3): 25-42.
*Cocca, C. E. (2004) [https://networks.h-net.org/node/18732/reviews/19007/littauer-cocca-jailbait-politics-statutory-rape-laws-united-states Jailbait: The Politics of Statutory Rape Laws in the United States]. Albany, NY: State University of New York Press.
*Ellis, S. J. and C. Kitzinger (2002) [https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Denying-equality%3A-an-analysis-of-arguments-against-Ellis-Kitzinger/184be7a20082718aa34e4eea37bac3d8232c9e4b "Denying equality: An analysis of arguments against lowering the age of consent for sex between men."] Journal of Community & Applied Social Psychology 12(3): 167-180.
*[[Beatrice_Faust|Faust]], B. (1995) [[Media:(1995) Faust - Child Sexuality and AOC - The Netherlands Model.pdf|"Child sexuality and age of consent laws: The Netherlands model."]] Australasian Gay and Lesbian Law Journal, 5, pp. 78-85.
*[[Helmut_Graupner|Graupner, H.]] (1999) [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10482330/ "Love versus abuse: crossgenerational sexual relations of minors: a gay rights issue?"] Journal of Homosexuality 37(4): 23-56.
*[[Helmut_Graupner|Graupner, H.]] (2000) [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A:1001986103125 "Sexual consent: The criminal law in Europe and overseas."] Archives of Sexual Behavior 29(5): 415-461.
*[[Helmut_Graupner|Graupner, H.]] (2005) [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J056v16n02_02 "The 17-Year-Old Child: An Absurdity of the Late 20th Century."] Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality 16(2/3): 7-24. (.pdf file)
*[[Gert Hekma|Hekma, G.]] (2004) "Queer: The Dutch case." GLQ: A Journal of Gay and Lesbian Studies 10(2): 276-280.
*Hofmeister, L. (2005) [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J056v16n02_06 "14 to 18 Year Olds as 'Children' by Law? Reflections on Developments in National European Law."] Journal of Psychology & Human Sexuality 16(2/3): 63-70.
*Killias, M. (1990) [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1300/J082v20n01_05 "The Historic Origins of Penal Statutes Concerning Sexual Activities Involving Children and Adolescents."] Journal of Homosexuality 20 (1/2): 41-46.
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Age of majority

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The age of majority is the legal threshold of which a person is legally declared as an adult.<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/what-age-of-majority-means-its-definition-and-usage-882666</ref> It is the moment when a person ceases to be considered a [[minor]] and assumes legal control over their person, actions, and decisions, thus terminating the control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over them, having gained the rights to be able to vote in elections, to buy tobacco and cigarettes and get a tattoo.<ref>https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1969/46</ref> Most countries set the age of majority at 18, but some jurisdictions have a higher or lower age than others.

Although easily confounded with one another, the age of majority is not the same as the [[age of consent]].<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/age-of-majority-chart-2300968</ref>

==Historical age of majority==

<blockquote>''Variations in the age of the sovereign's majority couldbe found as in the case of the majority of others. The King of Denmark came of age at fourteen, according to Lacombein his history of the ancient kings of the northern European countries. This custom would be referable to a period prior to the tenth century. "At that age the King would declare publicly that he wished no longer to have the services of a tutor." 3 Gothic kings seem frequently to have come of age at fifteen, for example Childebert II in 585 A.D. The aristocracy would have been influenced by the royal example; but, inevitably, the qualifications for majority were different. Thus, in his Memoirs of Ancient Chivalry, St. Palaye records that the minority of the nobles in France ended at seventeen, "because they were then judged strong enough and sufficiently qualified for the culture of their lands, the mechanic arts and commeree in which they were all employed."<ref>https://academic.oup.com/ajlh/article-abstract/4/1/22/1800081?redirectedFrom=fulltext</ref> (T. E. James)</blockquote>

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Age of majority

2024-04-23T07:21:19Z

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The age of majority is the legal threshold of which a person is legally declared as an adult.<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/what-age-of-majority-means-its-definition-and-usage-882666</ref> It is the moment when a person ceases to be considered a [[minor]] and assumes legal control over their person, actions, and decisions, thus terminating the control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over them, having gained the rights to be able to vote in elections, to buy tobacco and cigarettes and get a tattoo.<ref>https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1969/46</ref> Most countries set the age of majority at 18, but some jurisdictions have a higher or lower age than others.

Although easily confounded with one another, the age of majority is not the same as the [[age of consent]].<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/age-of-majority-chart-2300968</ref>

==Historical age of majority==

<blockquote>''Variations in the age of the sovereign's majority couldbe found as in the case of the majority of others. The Kingof Denmark came of age at fourteen, according to Lacombein his history of the ancient kings of the northern Europeancountries. This custom would be referable to a period priorto the tenth century. "At that age the King would declarepublicly that he wished no longer to have the services of atutor."3 Gothic kings seem frequently to have come of age atfifteen, for example Childebert II in 585 A.D. The aristocracy would have been influenced by the royal example; but, inevitably, the qualifications for majority were different. Thus,in his Memoirs of Ancient Chivalry, St. Palaye records thatthe minority of the nobles in France ended at seventeen, "because they were then judged strong enough and sufficientlyqualified for the culture of their lands, the mechanic arts andcommeree in which they were all employed."<ref>https://academic.oup.com/ajlh/article-abstract/4/1/22/1800081?redirectedFrom=fulltext</ref> (T. E. James)</blockquote>

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Age of majority

2024-04-23T07:20:14Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Historical age of majority */

The age of majority is the legal threshold of which a person is legally declared as an adult.<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/what-age-of-majority-means-its-definition-and-usage-882666</ref> It is the moment when a person ceases to be considered a [[minor]] and assumes legal control over their person, actions, and decisions, thus terminating the control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over them, having gained the rights to be able to vote in elections, to buy tobacco and cigarettes and get a tattoo.<ref>https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1969/46</ref> Most countries set the age of majority at 18, but some jurisdictions have a higher or lower age than others.

Although easily confounded with one another, the age of majority is not the same as the [[age of consent]].<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/age-of-majority-chart-2300968</ref>

==Historical age of majority==

<blockquote>''Variations in the age of the sovereign's majority couldbe found as in the case of the majority of others. The Kingof Denmark came of age at fourteen, according to Lacombein his history of the ancient kings of the northern Europeancountries. This custom would be referable to a period priorto the tenth century. "At that age the King would declarepublicly that he wished no longer to have the services of atutor."3 Gothic kings seem frequently to have come of age atfifteen, for example Childebert II in 585 A.D. The aristocracy would have been influenced by the royal example; but, inevitably, the qualifications for majority were different. Thus,in his Memoirs of Ancient Chivalry, St. Palaye records thatthe minority of the nobles in France ended at seventeen, "because they were then judged strong enough and sufficientlyqualified for the culture of their lands, the mechanic arts andcommeree in which they were all employed."<ref>https://academic.oup.com/ajlh/article-abstract/4/1/22/1800081?redirectedFrom=fulltext</ref> (T. E. James)</blockquote>

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Age of majority

2024-04-23T07:19:42Z

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The age of majority is the legal threshold of which a person is legally declared as an adult.<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/what-age-of-majority-means-its-definition-and-usage-882666</ref> It is the moment when a person ceases to be considered a [[minor]] and assumes legal control over their person, actions, and decisions, thus terminating the control and legal responsibilities of their parents or guardian over them, having gained the rights to be able to vote in elections, to buy tobacco and cigarettes and get a tattoo.<ref>https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1969/46</ref> Most countries set the age of majority at 18, but some jurisdictions have a higher or lower age than others.

Although easily confounded with one another, the age of majority is not the same as the [[age of consent]].<ref>https://www.liveabout.com/age-of-majority-chart-2300968</ref>

==Historical age of majority==

<blockquote>''Variations in the age of the sovereign's majority couldbe found as in the case of the majority of others. The Kingof Denmark came of age at fourteen, according to Lacombein his history of the ancient kings of the northern Europeancountries. This custom would be referable to a period priorto the tenth century. "At that age the King would declarepublicly that he wished no longer to have the services of atutor."3 Gothic kings seem frequently to have come of age atfifteen, for example Childebert II in 585 A.D. The aristocracy would have been influenced by the royal example; but, inevitably, the qualifications for majority were different. Thus,in his Memoirs of Ancient Chivalry, St. Palaye records thatthe minority of the nobles in France ended at seventeen,"because they were then judged strong enough and sufficientlyqualified for the culture of their lands, the mechanic arts andcommeree in which they were all employed."<ref>https://academic.oup.com/ajlh/article-abstract/4/1/22/1800081?redirectedFrom=fulltext</ref> (T. E. James)</blockquote>

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Peter Schult

2024-04-22T16:02:18Z

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__NOTOC__[[File:Peter Schult.jpg|thumb|Rare photograph of Peter Schult, likely towards the end of his life.]]
'''Peter Schult''' (born June 17, 1928, Berlin - died April 25, 1984, Munich) was an anarchist German writer and journalist, and, from the 1970s, a prominent participant and protagonist in public debates on sexual morality and sexual politics, especially homosexuality and pedophilia. This page provides details about Schult's life, his openness about being and living as a practicing [[Pederasty|pederast]]/[[Minor_Attracted_Person|MAP]], and his participation and status as a key figure in the German 1st wave of the [[MAP Movement]].

A biography of Schult was published (in German only) by Prof. Florian G. Mildenberger in 2006, titled "Beispiel Peter Schult – Pädophilie im öffentlichen Diskurs" (Peter Schult - Pedophilia in Public Discourse).<ref>Florian Mildenberger: Beispiel Peter Schult – Pädophilie im öffentlichen Diskurs. Männerschwarm Verlag. Bibliothek Rosa Winkel. Hamburg 2006. {EN: Peter Schult - Pedophilia in Public Discourse (Men's Heartthrob Publisher: Pink Angle Library, Hamburg 2006)}</ref> We have translated this book and provided summary paragraphs and key quotes on our article: [[Beispiel Peter Schult]].

==The life and left-wing politics of Peter Schult==

Schult was raised in poverty and never knew his biological father. He briefly saw military service at the end of the Second World War and escaped from a prisoner-of-war camp in 1945, before fleeing to West Germany, working for a mine-clearing service in the Baltic Sea until February 1946. Returning home, he witnessed his mother's suicide and left the family home forever, surviving and being imprisoned for black market trading, automobile theft, and engaging in robberies with a youth gang. From 1950, Schult led a respectable life as an active political liberal, directed a youth home and was briefly married. In the summer of 1954, he was arrested and sentenced to five months in prison for "serious indecency with persons under the age of 21". At the time, homosexual sex was de facto illegal, and sex with person under the age of 21 was an aggravating legal factor. Schult subsequently resigned from his position as deputy federal chairman of the Young Democrats, vice-president of the “Liberal Youth of Europe”, and head of a men's dormitory in Stuttgart (Germany) where runaway youths were admitted.

From 1955 to July 1961, he served in the French Foreign Legion and was "transferred to Algeria in May
1957 to fight for "France's honor" - and possibly to die" (Mildenberger, p. 90) in the Algerian War.<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algerian_War</ref> He deserted towards the end of the war, after becoming convinced of the conflict's injustice and inhumanity.<ref>Wikipedia claims that Schult wrote an article about the Algerian war for ''Der Spiegel''.</ref> He was imprisoned for drug dealing and homosexual relations in the 1960s and - during a later stretch of imprisonment - worked for the German far-left prisoner support group [[Wikipedia:Rote_Hilfe_e.V.|Red Aid]], participating in a hunger strike to support the group and protest solitary confinement in May 1973. During this time, the prison administration tried to discipline him through isolation, but this only provoked an increase in public support for Schult. For example, after being encouraged to contact Schult, the filmmakers [[Volker Schlondorff]] and [[Margarethe von Trotta]] regularly visited Schult in prison and corresponded with him, remaining on friendly terms until Schult's death in 1984.<ref>"It was not until the beginning of 1973 that he apparently began to reconnect with the Red Help and spread his newfound knowledge within the prison. The prison administration then tried to discipline him by isolating him, but this only provoked an increase in public support for Schult. Fritz Teufel, for example, had encouraged the filmmakers Volker Schlondorff and Margarethe von Trotta, who were just passing by, to contact Schult at an information booth of the Red Aid Munich in Leopoldstrasse. [...] Schlondorff and von Trotta regularly visited Schult in prison and corresponded with him. He remained on friendly terms with them until his death in 1984" (pp. 108-109).</ref>

After his release on February 21, 1974, he worked in the left-wing collective Red Aid Munich, contributed to the Munich city newspaper ''Blatt'' and the magazine ''Autonomie''. With Herbert Röttgen, the publisher of left-wing ''Trikont publishing house'', and his lawyer Jurgen Arnold, Schult campaigned against the ban on the memoirs of the Left-wing militant [[Wikipedia:Bommi_Baumann|Bommi Baumann]], organizing a solidarity campaign by 380 public figures and achieving the release of a new edition of Bommi Baumann's work. Schult wrote introductions and commentaries.<ref>''Michael "Bommi" BAUMANN: Wie alles anfing'' (Munich: Trikont, 1975). With an afterword by Peter Schult (pp. 138-141); Peter Schult: Bommi Baumann. A Book and the Left. In: Jurgen Arnold / Peter Schult (eds.): ''Ein Buch wirdverboten. Bommi Baumann Documentation''. With contributions by Heinrich Boll, Luise Rinser, Volker Schlöndorff, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, Klaus Briegleb et al. (Munich: Trikont, 1975), pp. 127-137; Peter Schult: ''Wanted: Baumann'': In: ''Blatt'' No. 57, 1975, pp. 9-10. Note that anti-MAP feminist Alice Schwarzer also signed for the new edition of the Bommi book (Mildenberger, footnote 15, pp.125-126.</ref> Schult was hostile to left-wing antisemitism<ref>"Schult, who had experienced the horrors and seduction of National Socialism at first hand, was [...] hostile to left-wing anti-Semitism." (''Ibid'', p. 108).</ref> and occasional terrorist sympathies on the Left.<ref>"Schult was clearly not pleased with the actions of his friends, who had slipped into the terrorist milieu" (''Ibid'')</ref>

==Schult and MAP politics==

==The Schult Affair==

After the success of the Bommi Baumann anti-censorship campaign which brought many otherwise divided prominent Left-wing figures together, as diverse as [[Alice Schwarzer]]<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Schwarzer</ref> and [[Daniel Cohn-Bendit]]<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Cohn-Bendit</ref>, according to Mildenberger, "''both local and national authorities were very interested in criminalizing Peter Schult ''[...]'' to damage his reputation and to discredit the circles that supported him, leading to a breakaway movement that was bound to result in a loss of credibility for large sections of the left.''" (p. 126). Schult was accused in June 1976, of taking an 8-year-old female ("Ramona G.") home to have sex with, putting her back on the street afterwards. The expert witness, child and youth psychiatry professor [[Reinhart Lempp]] who had researched [[Research:_Secondary_Harm|iatrogenic harm]] and [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|positive age-disparate sex]]<ref>Prof. Reinhart Lempp held that age-disparate sex is '''not''' intrinsically harmful to the younger party: "the assumption that confrontation with the sexual acts of adults results in damage, is scarcely tenable. There is no doubt that the child's experience of the unexpected use of violence, especially from a stranger, can lead to a psychological shock and in some instances to a steady change in the child's relationship to his environment and to psychological damage. [...] In my own investigation, certain damage to the child as a direct result of the sexual offence could not be observed in even one single case of the 97 children. The children in seven cases in which the possibility of psychological damage was raised, all came from a background which had been extremely negative since early childhood. See: [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0145213478900224?via%3Dihub Reinhart Lempp. (1978). Psychological damage to children as a result of sexual offences, in ''Child Abuse and Neglect'', Vol. 2, pp. 243-245.]</ref> challenged the prosecution's witness as untrustworthy (and the alleged sexual activity), with an opposing opinion coming from a psychologist who was favored. The trial saw tumultuous discussions and division in left-wing communities, with representatives of the women's movement storming the editorial office of the city newspaper "Blatt," demanding that Schult be expelled and banned from writing. Former "comrades" plundered his private archive, while his friends accused the plunderers of having adopted the prosecution's ideas without considering Schult's homosexuality, which contradicted the accusations. Schult "vehemently denied sexual contacts" (Mildenberger, p. 128) with the young female and objected to being seen only as a "pedophile," considering his homosexual attraction to young people as expressing left-wing values:

<blockquote>''To state it once again with all clarity: in my case, this is not primarily about a sexual problem - because I did not commit the sexual offenses of which I was accused - but only for my political activities, for my activities in the Red Help, for my articles and essays against the justice system, against the penal system, against prison in general. That's why I was punished ''[...]'' It is only secondarily about sexual things, more precisely, about my homosexuality, which I hope will not be reproached by leftists. But I am also willing to take a stand on this.'' (Schult, in Mildenberger, pp. 128-129).</blockquote>

Schult was ruled guilty and sentenced to 2 years and 3 months in prison. His former employer, "Blatt," generally criticized the passing of judgment, and published letters of support where, for example, a man wrote of his positive sexual contact with a man at 11-years-old, as well as opposing letters.<ref>For positive experience: Zurn Paderastie. In: Blatt No. 80, 1976, pp. 4-5; For negative, Uta / Editor / Inge HEINRICHS: Living with Children. 3 Contribution to the Paederasty Discussion. In: Blatt No. 82, 1976, pp. 12-14.</ref> Schult was supported by Karl-Heinz Roth<ref>Karl Heinz Roth: ''Open letter to the comrades from Munich!'' In: ''Autonomie'' No. 5, 1977, p. 71.</ref> and Herbert Rottgen <ref>Herbert Rottgen: ''Morals. Our morals, their morals, right?'' In: ''Autonomy'' No. 5, 1977, pp. 69-71.</ref>. Members of the "Homosexuelle Aktions-Gruppe München" (EN: The homosexual action group (HAG/HAM)<ref>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q112813203</ref> accused the judiciary of criminalizing Schult because he stood by his unlawful political and homosexual activity and showed no remorse. In addition, the Frankfurt wing of the Sponti movement<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spontis</ref> (Frankfurt Spontis) organized a teach-in on pedophilia which took place on January 28, 1977, at Frankfurt University. About 800 people attended, including Schult himself after the Munich public prosecutor's office was defeated before a higher court, and saw no reason to detain Schult permanently. Schult and other gay left-wing figures emphasized solidarity between fighting class and sexual oppression (homosexual oppression), with Schult criticizing the [[Feminism|feminist/women's movement]], who had damaged large parts of the left by utilizing an exaggerated connection between rape and age-disparate sex, thus furthering the interests of capitalist state power and the persecuting authorities.<ref>Teach In. The Left and Male Sexuality using the Example of Peter Schult. 28. 1. 1977. University Horsaal H VI. In: Pflasterstrand 19. 1. 1977.</ref> Schult allegedly had direct confrontation with [[Alice Schwarzer]], but was most angry about his treatment by alleged "comrades". He wrote a pamphlet, "For a sexual revolution - against the left-wing players," published in 1977, accusing leftists of preaching anarchy but immediately going into shock at any sign of lived anarchy, while adopting the arguments of the repressive state. He emphasized that he saw his young male sex partners not as sexual objects, but as equal partners with equal rights, and shared a similar social situation with the young runaways.<ref>Peter SCHULT: For a sexual revolution - against the left-wing players. In: ''Autonomy. Materialien gegen die Fabrikgesellschaft'' No. 5, 1977, pp. 86-96.</ref> For Schult, the Left still had a problem with homosexuality:

<blockquote>''If, on the other hand, I go into the left-wing scene with a boy today, there is once again an awkward silence, at best a willing tolerance. You have to have experienced that when one of the boys came along to an appointment, hardly any of the comrades dared to speak to him ''[...]'' For some, this icy silence was depressing, they did not come a second time. Or, when the HAM ''[Homosexual Action Munich/Group]'' took part in a prison party, what kind of offensive remarks were made by comrades, of course, only when none of the gays were present. Apparently they did not know about me ''[being gay]''. For the left, homosexuality is still a phenomenon with which they cannot cope, and in any case it is not ''[regarded as]'' a self-evident variant of sexuality, not to speak of [[Pederasty|pederasty]].'' (Schult, in Mildenberger, p. 134).</blockquote>

Schult published his memoir, ''Visits in Dead-End Streets: Memoirs of a homosexual Anarchist'' (1978), and, after risking state censorship, triggered a renewed swelling of solidarity with boy-lovers within the left-wing and green movement.<ref>Peter Schult: ''Long Live Fornication. On the new edition of my book''. In: Schult, ''Besuche in Sackgassen'', 2nd edition (Frankfurt am Main: Foerster 1982), pp. 266-269.</ref> Schult had taken in and had sex with two minor males in December 1978, and was brought to trial in spring, 1979, where "''the young "victims" had testified in favor of Schult and emphasized that he had been the first adult whose contact they had not been afraid of. ''[...]'' [T]he court agreed to a kind of compromise: Schult was sentenced to 7 months and 2 weeks' imprisonment on probation''" (Mildeberger, p. 140). Becoming a martyr again, Green party politicians, Munich leftists, and non-affiliated gays had started a campaign in favor of Schult's release: "Within the gay movement, a new wave of solidarity for Schult began. This was initiated by [[Rosa von Praunheim]]'s reports on pedosexual substitute family constructs in the U.S.<ref>Rosa Von Praunheim: ''Armee der Liebenden oder Aufstand der Perversen'' (Miinchen: Trikont 1979) pp. 267-270. Praunheirn also addressed the U.S. pado activists in his memoirs; see Rosa von Praunheim: ''50 Jahre pervers. Die sentimen talen Memoiren des Rosa von Praunheim'' (Koln: Kiepenheuer & Witsch 1993) p. 240: "In his house we met some 14 to 18-year-olds, mostly from broken anti-gay families, who felt more lovingly treated and understood here."</ref> At the same time, however, the women's movement, now dominated by Alice Schwarzer, launched a comprehensive attack on the pedosexuals and their supporters" (''Ibid'', p. 140). Like [[Roger Moody]], Schult argued against the idealization of pedophiles as educators (pedagogical eros), saying that the pedophile stands opposite the youth as an equal partner. This wave of support was undercut by gay assimilationism / the exclusion of undesirables by left-wing groups, the fact that MAPs were not always left-wing and heterosexual MAPs rarely joined gay groups, the rise of victim/carceral feminism, and the election of the conservative Helmut Kohl<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmut_Kohl</ref> government which began a backlash against the radical sexual liberation and anti-prison left-wing politics of the past. Schult's death in 1985 marked the end of the 1st wave of the German MAP movement.

==A Short Requiem==

[[File:Gefallene Engel (Fallen Angels) by Peter Schult.jpg|thumb|Cover of Gefallene Engel (Fallen Angels, 1982)]]The most concise source on Schult's life and MAP politics in English, comes from a 1985 obituary by gay historian [[Hubert_Kennedy|Hubert Kennedy]]<ref>In Memoriam: Five Gay Obituaries on Glenn Hogan, Mario Mieli, Roger Austen, Peter Schult, and Robert Turner. The piece on Schult was originally published in ''NAMBLA Bulletin'' 6, no. 3 (1985): 11.</ref>, who wrote:

<blockquote>''At the time of his death one year ago at age 55, Peter Schult was the best known boy-lover in Germany. This was due partly to a public campaign to have him released from prison on humanitarian grounds, since he was terminally ill with lung cancer'' [...] ''Until then, however, he was generally known only to activist boy-lovers, left-radical political groups, and, of course, the many boys he had loved and helped and had sex with.''

''Peter found and took home the homeless — or they found him. In state institutions his address was passed from one boy to another as a place where runaways could find temporary shelter. His address was also well-known to the authorities, whose “authority” the anarchist Peter refused to recognize, and he was sent to prison numerous times on charges of drug possession and “seducing minors.” In 1971–74 he was in prison for “kidnapping” (read: sheltering a runaway from a state institution) and spent nearly two years in isolation''

[...]

''With the publication in 1978 of his autobiography, "Besuche in Sackgassen: Aufzeichnungen eines homosexuellen Anarchisten" (Visits in Dead-End Streets: Memoirs of a homosexual Anarchist), written while he was again in prison, Peter became notorious, both for the frankness with which he revealed and accepted his sexuality and for his antagonism to the state.''

[...]

''When Peter was convicted for the last time in 1982 for “corrupting a minor” and was given the lengthy (for Germany) sentence of two years and ten months, the judge particularly pointed out Peter’s lack of regret for his actions. Nor were the authorities pleased by Peter’s writing in prison his second book, "Gefallene Engel" (Fallen Angels, 1982), a collection of short stories and essays, again describing his experiences with boys and his anarchist views.''

''Although Peter was unable to obtain treatment for what he believed to be a tumor in his lung, he finally gained a transfer to a prison in Berlin, where the presence of the tumor was confirmed. Efforts to gain his release having failed (although 1,500 people signed the petition), Peter fled the hospital in Berlin in March 1984, and a month later was back in Munich, where he died of bleeding in the lungs on April 26, 1984.''

''As Peter lay dying in Munich, a special issue of the journal "Die Aktion: Zeitschrift für Politik. Literatur, Kunst" was being prepared in Hamburg. It was devoted entirely to Peter and expressed an appreciation of him and outrage at his treatment.'' (pp. 10-11)</blockquote>

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Communism

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StefiBeaLipton:

[[File:thefiveheads.png|thumb|The "Five Heads" of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.]]__NOTOC__
[[Youth rights]], including the sexual liberation of children, is compatible with some interpretations of '''communism'''/'''socialism''' (these terms are used interchangeably by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, but are sometimes distinguished by Leftist individuals and tendencies). One Reddit post<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/owqdft/bourgeois_vs_proletarian_sexuality/</ref> claims that "by contemporary standards, Jenny von Westphalen "groomed" Karl Marx", as does a short youtube video.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92z_OrPN7z8 Jenny von Wesphalen groomed Karl Marx], by Benjamin Ingram (external link)</ref> Marxism views the nuclear [[family]] as a means for the subordination of children and women, exploitation upon which capitalism is supposedly dependent. [[Family values]] -- monogamy, homophobia, sexual suppression/repression, and other enemies of free love -- are enforced to maintain the traditional family unit. According to some communists/socialists, extending rights to the young would undermine the father's place of power and interrupt the inheritance of class and acceptance of classist models.

==Marx and Engels on age-gap sex==

<blockquote>
''What, then, does promiscuous sexual intercourse really mean? It means the absence of prohibitions and restrictions which are or have been in force. We have already seen the barrier of jealousy go down. If there is one thing certain, it is that the feeling of jealousy develops relatively late. The same is true of the conception of incest. Not only were brother and sister originally man and wife; sexual intercourse between parents and children is still permitted among many peoples today. Bancroft (The Native Races of the Pacific States of North America, 1875, Vol. I), testifies to it among the Kadiaks on the Behring Straits, the Kadiaks near Alaska, and the Tinneh in the interior of British North America; Letourneau compiled reports of it among the Chippewa Indians, the Cucus in Chile, the Caribs, the Karens in Burma; to say nothing of the stories told by the old Greeks and Romans about the Parthians, Persians, Scythians, Huns, and so on. '''Before incest was invented – for incest is an invention, and a very valuable one, too – sexual intercourse between parents and children did not arouse any more repulsion than sexual intercourse between other persons of different generations, and that occurs today even in the most philistine countries without exciting any great horror'''; even “old maids” of over sixty, if they are rich enough, sometimes marry young men in their thirties.'' [...]

''In a letter written in the spring of 1882, Marx expresses himself in the strongest terms about the complete misrepresentation of primitive times ''[...]'' '''Marx replies: "In primitive times the sister was the wife, and that was moral."'''''

'''Frederick Engels'''. ''Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State'' (1884).<ref>[https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch02.htm Engles, 1884]. (External link).</ref>
</blockquote>

==Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)==
<blockquote>''But perhaps the most important illustration of the link between struggle and sexuality is the Russian Revolution of 1917, in which the working class exploded the limits of capitalism. In the brief period in which the revolution flourished, the revolutionaries abolished all laws against homosexuality, introduced divorce by request, abortion on demand and repealed the age of consent laws.''<ref>"[http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/gayleft/socalt.rtf Sexual Liberation and Socialism]," ''Socialist Alternative'' (Red Guide), issue 16, April 1997.</ref></blockquote>

[[File:1950sUSSR.jpg|thumb|1950s USSR poster reading: "If you want to be healthy, harden yourself!"]]__NOTOC__
The 1920s were a period of relative sexual openness for the USSR. Erotic "experimentation" was reportedly common during meetings of the ''Young Pioneer'' youth organization. Parents "complained that their 10–12 year old children came home at 3–4 am, declaring that they were at the Pioneer meetings and cut off parental protests with threats and accusations of counter-revolution."

The change in politics in the country by the 1930s roughly coincided with the start of a moral panic over "unhealthy relations" between children. It was claimed that "the abnormal sexual relations between children" had "taken on menacing proportions" and required "extreme measures." Sexual indulgence was thought to distract children from more productive activities. The state began to enforce a strict taboo against sexualities that did not conform to the Victorian model. The uniforms of one summer camp were criticized on the grounds that "pants are not entirely hygienic for girls, because they cause in them excessive friction in the sexual organs." Prohibitions on homosexuality were enforced, albeit predominantly "against those instances when juveniles and minors are the objects of homosexual interest," who may have been MAPs.<ref>[https://www.stalinsociety.com/news/homosexualityintheussr Homosexuality in the USSR]</ref>

The problem of youth sexuality was eventually deemed severe enough for the state to segregate male and female schooling. [[Ann Livschiz]] writes that this action reflected the "fundamental social conservatism of the majority of the top political leadership of the country and their great fear of youth, and particularly female, sexuality, as a force that could not be overcome, controlled or fully harnessed for the service of the state."<ref>Livschiz, Ann (2008). "Battling "Unhealthy Relations": Soviet Youth Sexuality as a Political Problem," ''Journal of Historical Sociology'', 21(4), 397-416.</ref>

==Age-disparate sex: Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong==

While exiled in Siberia, [[Josef Stalin]] is known to have had an affair with a 13-year-old female named Lidia, at the age of 36. In the biography ''Young Stalin'' (2007),<ref>Sebag-Montefiore, Simon (2007). ''[https://library.lol/main/22A2BAB1FDD0555538BBC0BE86FDC0E6 Young Stalin]''. Alfred A. Knopf. See also [https://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/n0635-siberian-pensioner-is-grandson-of-josef-stalin-dna-test-reveals/ genetic proof.]</ref><ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454291/Stalin-lover-aged-13.html Stalin and his lover aged 13]</ref> Simon Sebag Montefiore wrote:

<blockquote>''We know no details of how this developed. But some time in early 1914 Stalin, now thirty-four, embarked on an affair with Lidia, aged thirteen.''

''We catch a glimpse of Stalin and Lidia together staggering from drinking-bout to drinking-bout because we have her memoirs of their boozy carousals: “In his spare time, Stalin liked to go to evening dances — he could be very jolly too. He loved to sing and dance. He especially liked the song ‘I’m guarding the gold, the gold . . . I’m burying the gold, burying the gold, Guess where, pure damsel with your golden hair’. . . He often joined birthday dinners.” The memoirs of Stalin’s thirteen-year-old mistress were recorded twenty years later ''[...]'' while she remained a Siberian housewife.''

[...]

''“He often liked to drop in on some people,” says Lidia, meaning herself. “And he also drank.” Was this how he seduced her — or she him? Girls in places like Kureika matured early — and Lidia does not sound like a shrinking violet.''

[...]

''Even though local lore discouraged affairs with exiles, the local girls were bound to be attracted to these worldly, educated revolutionaries in their midst. This statutory rape was not rape by force but an old-fashioned seduction.''</blockquote>

Monifore notes the [[age of consent]] among other important contextual factors:

<blockquote>''Fourteen was technically the age of consent in the Russian and European regions of the Tsarist Empire, but this was Siberia. Besides, there was no precise legal concept of statutory rape in Tsarist law: for the police, it was as much a crime “against female honour” as a violation of her father’s chattels. The seducer’s agreement to marry and then the exchange of marriage vows were seen as rectifying an untoward situation.''</blockquote>

The Chinese revolutionary and statesmen [[Mao Zedong]] wrote romantic poetry in youth and lived an active sex life which included many young female sexual partners. There are only 2 claims of sexual activity involving people under 18. The first comes from anti-communist writer Jonathan Mirsky, who in 1997 claimed to have interviewed a 57-years-old woman ("Mrs. Chen") in Hong Kong, who said she began having sex with Mao in 1962 when she was 14 and he 69/70.<ref>Mirsky. ''[https://archive.fo/TkNb5#selection-1049.0-1053.55 Me and Mao’s girl: An encounter with one of the Chairman’s underage lovers]'' (''The Spectator'', 2011).</ref> Chen appears to view the experience positively, with Mirsky noting that "She had plenty to say about the Great Helmsman’s virility and stamina", and how Mao cried after she was sent to work in the North of the country against his wishes:

<blockquote>''After five years, Jiang Qing insisted that Ms Chen be banished to the north-east, to a lesser job. Mao, she claimed, took her on his knee and wept, but said he could do nothing. After some years in exile, she was summoned back to Beijing for a brief stopover where Mao, again weeping, said he could do nothing for her and was sending her back to Nanking where her marriage had been arranged. (Ibid).''</blockquote>

It should be noted that Mirsky may be an unreliable source. His language is moralistic and derogatory ("monster"), and he consistently relies on and has even reviewed<ref>Mirsky. [https://archive.fo/WCpQ7 Unmasking the Monster]. Review of Mao's Private Life (1994)</ref> the source for the second claim about minors, Dr. Li Zhisui's ''The Private Life of Chairman Mao: The Memoirs of Mao’s Personal Physician'' (1994).<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Life_of_Chairman_Mao Wiki page for Dr. Li's book.]</ref> Dr. Li's book claims that Mao loved to reminisce about an encounter he had as a teenage villager with a "pretty" 12-year-old female. While this concerns attraction instead of action, Dr. Li's book is the major source for evidence of Mao's sexual prowess, and includes events which are framed negatively such as Mao's alleged contracting and spreading venereal disease through sex. Dr. Li's claims have been critiqued by professional Chinese historian Mobo Gao in a dedicated chapter titled ''How a medical doctor doctors history: a case study of Li Zhisui'', in his 2008 book ''The Battle for China's Past''.<ref>''[https://library.lol/main/F3B2B6834C81EF8F7315CB42A5FB7A29 The Battle for China's Past]''</ref> There are many other professional critiques of commonly accepted anti-Stalin and anti-Mao claims.<ref>For Stalin and his time as statesmen, see the work of J. Arch Getty, Mark Tauger, Stephen Wheatcroft. See the work of Samantha Lomb, e.g. [https://library.lol/main/2AF37FFBA76E612B049D39AF88CB1969 Stalin’s Constitution: Soviet Participatory Politics] (Routledge, 2017). Much of these researcher's conclusions are highlighted in historian [https://library.lol/main/48F580E2E2B9D7E1BACAC9405F8420CB Grover Furr's writings], such as [https://library.lol/main/4F13589002A3DFA4B0139B332FEF54AD Blood Lies: The Evidence that Every Accusation against Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Union in Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands Is False] (2014), and [https://library.lol/main/0FA2BE18E21402199E0A70CA6ADB223E Stalin. Waiting For ... The Truth! Exposing the Falsehoods in Stephen Kotkin's 'Stalin. Waiting for Hitler, 1929-1941'] (2019). Roland Boer addresses Stalin's religious views, e.g. [https://library.lol/main/9AA9DF3F5C6A98251A0790001E52A0EA Stalin: From Theology to the Philosophy of Socialism in Power] (2017). A historically informed tract can be found in Domenico Losurdo, [https://library.lol/main/978159484621AC3A9C94C444A835A0D7 Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend] (2019).

For Mao, see Gao's later work such as his 2018 book [https://library.lol/main/F49C94C43F77A037E7E6785F7E1358A4 Constructing China: Clashing Views of the People's Republic]; Dongping Han, [https://library.lol/main/603AB84882D24FBE3B35C4FE83258619 The Unknown Cultural Revolution] (2000); Gregor Benton, Lin Chun (eds.), [https://library.lol/main/C62B578D7855A04612F41AB35811CDE5 Was Mao Really a Monster?: The academic response to Chang and Halliday's Mao: The Unknown Story] (2009); Lee Feigon, [https://library.lol/main/C7EB9DC36EC9A3164DE0C9DA115B2A78 Mao: A Reinterpretation] (2003); Daniel F. Vukovich, [https://library.lol/main/C19E4C1F55AA068CDBD882B904B8FC2A China and Orientalism: Western Knowledge Production and the PRC] (Routledge, 2013). A general book addressing both Stalin and Mao's governments is economist Austin Murphy's [https://library.lol/main/1463915729B5AE8F30FAC63DE6D2D87E The Triumph of Evil: the Reality of the USA’s Cold War Victory] (2000, European Academic Press).</ref>

==Evo Morales==

Born 26 October 1959, the 65th president of Bolivia from 2006 to 2019, [[wikipedia:Evo_Morales|'''Evo Morales''']], [[wikipedia:Evo_Morales#Statutory_rape_investigation|faced 2 accusations]] of [[statutory rape]] (unlawful consensual sex) in 2020. Leading the Movement for Socialism (MAS) party since 1998, he is widely regarded as a left-wing / socialist president, has been described as "the most famous Bolivian ever", and is considered the country's first president to come from its indigenous population. His government was considered part of the [[wikipedia:Pink_tide|pink tide]]. Summarized with information from Wikipedia:

<blockquote>''On 7 August 2020, several photographs of Morales with a supposed underage female came to light, and began circulating on social media. Journalist Alejandro Entreambasaguas and Bolivian authorities said that her and Morales had been in a relationship since she was 14 years old. Several news organizations related these claims with comments that Morales had made twice previously on retiring with a ''quinceañera'' (15-year-old) when he was no longer president.''</blockquote>

<blockquote>''The woman was later identified as 19-year-old '''Noemí Meneses''' when a statement to police was leaked. In the statement, she said she had been in a romantic relationship with Morales since May 2020, and had no previous relations with him. The Bolivian police subsequently placed her under house arrest from which she escaped and fled to Argentina with her parents. After arriving in Argentina, Meneses wrote a letter to the Bolivian Ombudsman saying that the police had kept her from eating for two days and threatened to prosecute her for sedition and terrorism unless she said that she had been in a relationship with Morales. She wrote that the police had "forced [her] to testify under pressure, without a lawyer".<ref>Wikipedia claims that "The circumstances of her arrest are further disputed". See in-text links for sources.</ref> Alleged evidence to corroborate a long-term romantic relationship between Morales and Meneses was obtained and subsequently published by Bolivian and Spanish press, including excerpts from 101 pages of text conversations and phone records between the two, 90 photos of the pair in various locations (including the presidential palace, the presidential jet and in Buenos Aires) and travel receipts. Meneses said she met Evo Morales when she was 16 during the 2015 carnival season, while declaration data indicates that she was born in 2001, meaning that she may-in-fact have been 14 when they met.''</blockquote>

<blockquote>''On 21 August 2020, an unrelated complaint of a second statutory rape case was filed against Morales. In this complaint, it is claimed that Morales had a child with a 15-year-old and that he is named as the father on the birth certificate. In response, Morales claimed that the complaint was part of a "dirty war" by the interim government against him.''</blockquote>

==Anti-capitalist supporters==

*An immediate demand of the [[Communist Party of Great Britain]] was until the early 2020s: "The abolition of age-of-consent laws. We recognise the right of individuals to enter into the sexual relations they choose provided this does not conflict with the rights of others. Alternative legislation to protect children from sexual abuse."<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201018151051/https://communistparty.co.uk/3-immediate-demands/ 2020 archived UKCP Positions/Demands]</ref> They have since removed this demand and do not have a set-in-stone policy on the [[Age of Consent]].

*[[The Spartacist League]]:

<blockquote>''Marxists oppose all laws against “crimes without victims,” such as prostitution, drug use or pornography. We utterly reject the practice whereby looking at pornography is equated with violent crimes such as rape, sexual assault and even murder. We also oppose the criminalization of those who look at child pornography which, like all pornography, is simply words and images designed for pleasure. ''[...]'' In line with this, we do not think intergenerational sex is by definition abusive, nor do we think incest is a priori a crime to be punished by the bourgeois state. ''[...]'' We oppose age of consent laws because we oppose state intervention into people’s private sexual activities. We do not accord the capitalist state the right to decree the age at which youth may engage in consensual sexual activity. To create genuinely free and equal relations between people in all spheres, including sex, requires nothing less than the destruction of this class system and the creation of a communist world. In a classless society, social and economic constraints over sexual relations will be non-existent, and in the words of Friedrich Engels, 'there is no other motive left except mutual inclination.'''<ref>[http://www.spartacist.org/english/wv/876/canadasex.html Spartacist League: Canada: Anti-Sex Crusade Targets Youth, Gays]</ref></blockquote>

In 1994, the Spartacist League supported MAP ally psychologist and gay liberation activist [[John P. De Cecco]] when local newspaper scandal led to protest against him at his university. In his defense, the League's San Francisco University youth chapter, the Spartacus Youth Club (SYC), organized a speakout protest/rally at the university.

*The US Revolutionary Socialist League (disbanded):

<blockquote>''We believe that all consensual sex is the business only of those involved. The state has no business regulating in any way expressions of sexuality between consenting persons of any number, sex, or age. The state's attempt to regulate youth sexuality in particular is rooted in young people's position as property of their parents and/or wards of the state. Young people are jailed in schools, economically exploited, and denied the most basic political rights. Society maintains this oppression by imposing the idea that young people are not capable of determing their own wants and needs, in particular their sexual needs and desires. We oppose age of consent laws. These laws deny the ability of young people to determine their own sexual needs and desires. They maintain the status of youth as property, and reinforce the closet for gay youth.<ref>[http://books.google.ca/books?id=0b5xmYpoZE4C Gay Men and the Sexual History of the Political Left - G Books]</ref></blockquote>

*Sandra Bloodworth:

<blockquote>''Ultimately children will not gain genuine liberation until capitalism has been destroyed root and branch and a new society is built in which all human sexuality is encouraged and nurtured instead of despised and repressed.''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080726073919/http://www.sa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=565&Itemid=106 Socialist Alternative: Children and Sex]</ref></blockquote>

*[[Harry Hay]] and [[Jim Kepner]], pro-pederast founders of the [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|modern gay movement]].
*[[David Thorstad]], president of the Gay Activists Alliance and a founder of [[NAMBLA]].
*Marxist/anarchist women profiled on our [[feminism]] page: Shulamith Firestone, Germaine Greer, Simone de Beauvoir.
*[[Roger Moody]], [[Michel Foucault]], [[Guy Hocquenghem]], [[Peter Tatchell]] and various others associated with the early gay and [[MAP Movement]]s.
*Anarchist figures - German MAP figure [[Peter Schult]]; anarchist theorists/figures [[Hakim Bey]]/Peter Lamborn Wilson, [[John Henry Mackay]], [[Wolfi Landstreicher]]. Renown Anarchist [[Noam Chomsky]], who was scandalized in 2023 media for his ever having been willing to associate with [[Jeffrey Epstein]] and [[Woody Allen]]: associations which he defends.
*Philosopher [[Slavoj Žižek]] - various relevant statements.
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/owqdft/bourgeois_vs_proletarian_sexuality/ Reddit thread] which cites [[Michel Foucault]], sees age-gap sex as proletarian (i.e. working class).
*"''Paedophilia and Public Morals''" (1980), a booklet produced by [[The Campaign Against Public Morals]] (CAPM), a group of Left-wing activists who formed an organization in defence of [[Thomas O'Carroll]] (himself a self-identified democratic socialist and equal opportunities feminist) and his [[PIE]] co-defendants in the wake of an upcoming 1981 trial for "Conspiracy to corrupt public morals". The booklet offers [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|testimonies]] of positive age-gap sexual contact, whilst offering philosophical treatise which scrutinize patriarchal, state and family oppression of young people.
*Many authors in [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'']], Edited by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), were left-wing activists. E.g. John Lindsay, 'Socialism, Class, and Children's Rights', pp.134-141.<ref>[https://library.lol/main/D3E65600BCD53F898EE99AEBF6BCBC24 ''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'', ed. by Warren Middleton (London: CL Publications, 1986)]. Libgen link.</ref>
*"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1pXPR_PtKQ Pedophilia is proletarian]" (2021) video on youtube, by Benjamin Ingram. Other videos include "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=653CW9MYGf0 The Pedophilic Lebensraum Of Autonomous Zones]" (referring to [[Hakim Bey]]).
*YouTube streamer [[Vaush]] has made various comments and arguments about [[pedophilia]], [[Child Pornography]], and [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing adult-child sex]], during his streaming career.
*[https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Viki1999 Viki1999], a transgender Austrian leftist YouTube channel who joined the platform on June 1, 2019, announced on May 29, 2023, that she was [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wdj5kV-p4Q quitting YouTube] after being accused of being a pedophile. Viki was accused because of posts she had made to her Discord server indicating she found a 15-year-old attractive, and that, compared to Florida's age of consent at 18, "in austria it's 14 ;)". Viki stated that these were jokes in context, and that accusations of pedophilia led her to feel suicidal. Her accusers have since apologized, and she plans to continue her career as a sex worker with far higher earnings than YouTube.

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StefiBeaLipton: The "Five Heads" of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

== Summary ==
The "Five Heads" of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.

Communism

2024-04-22T12:08:53Z

StefiBeaLipton:

[[File:1950sUSSR.jpg|thumb|1950s USSR poster reading: "If you want to be healthy, harden yourself!"]]__NOTOC__
[[Youth rights]], including the sexual liberation of children, is compatible with some interpretations of '''communism'''/'''socialism''' (these terms are used interchangeably by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, but are sometimes distinguished by Leftist individuals and tendencies). One Reddit post<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/owqdft/bourgeois_vs_proletarian_sexuality/</ref> claims that "by contemporary standards, Jenny von Westphalen "groomed" Karl Marx", as does a short youtube video.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92z_OrPN7z8 Jenny von Wesphalen groomed Karl Marx], by Benjamin Ingram (external link)</ref> Marxism views the nuclear [[family]] as a means for the subordination of children and women, exploitation upon which capitalism is supposedly dependent. [[Family values]] -- monogamy, homophobia, sexual suppression/repression, and other enemies of free love -- are enforced to maintain the traditional family unit. According to some communists/socialists, extending rights to the young would undermine the father's place of power and interrupt the inheritance of class and acceptance of classist models.

==Marx and Engels on age-gap sex==

<blockquote>
''What, then, does promiscuous sexual intercourse really mean? It means the absence of prohibitions and restrictions which are or have been in force. We have already seen the barrier of jealousy go down. If there is one thing certain, it is that the feeling of jealousy develops relatively late. The same is true of the conception of incest. Not only were brother and sister originally man and wife; sexual intercourse between parents and children is still permitted among many peoples today. Bancroft (The Native Races of the Pacific States of North America, 1875, Vol. I), testifies to it among the Kadiaks on the Behring Straits, the Kadiaks near Alaska, and the Tinneh in the interior of British North America; Letourneau compiled reports of it among the Chippewa Indians, the Cucus in Chile, the Caribs, the Karens in Burma; to say nothing of the stories told by the old Greeks and Romans about the Parthians, Persians, Scythians, Huns, and so on. '''Before incest was invented – for incest is an invention, and a very valuable one, too – sexual intercourse between parents and children did not arouse any more repulsion than sexual intercourse between other persons of different generations, and that occurs today even in the most philistine countries without exciting any great horror'''; even “old maids” of over sixty, if they are rich enough, sometimes marry young men in their thirties.'' [...]

''In a letter written in the spring of 1882, Marx expresses himself in the strongest terms about the complete misrepresentation of primitive times ''[...]'' '''Marx replies: "In primitive times the sister was the wife, and that was moral."'''''

'''Frederick Engels'''. ''Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State'' (1884).<ref>[https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch02.htm Engles, 1884]. (External link).</ref>
</blockquote>

==Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)==
<blockquote>''But perhaps the most important illustration of the link between struggle and sexuality is the Russian Revolution of 1917, in which the working class exploded the limits of capitalism. In the brief period in which the revolution flourished, the revolutionaries abolished all laws against homosexuality, introduced divorce by request, abortion on demand and repealed the age of consent laws.''<ref>"[http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/gayleft/socalt.rtf Sexual Liberation and Socialism]," ''Socialist Alternative'' (Red Guide), issue 16, April 1997.</ref></blockquote>

The 1920s were a period of relative sexual openness for the USSR. Erotic "experimentation" was reportedly common during meetings of the ''Young Pioneer'' youth organization. Parents "complained that their 10–12 year old children came home at 3–4 am, declaring that they were at the Pioneer meetings and cut off parental protests with threats and accusations of counter-revolution."

The change in politics in the country by the 1930s roughly coincided with the start of a moral panic over "unhealthy relations" between children. It was claimed that "the abnormal sexual relations between children" had "taken on menacing proportions" and required "extreme measures." Sexual indulgence was thought to distract children from more productive activities. The state began to enforce a strict taboo against sexualities that did not conform to the Victorian model. The uniforms of one summer camp were criticized on the grounds that "pants are not entirely hygienic for girls, because they cause in them excessive friction in the sexual organs." Prohibitions on homosexuality were enforced, albeit predominantly "against those instances when juveniles and minors are the objects of homosexual interest," who may have been MAPs.<ref>[https://www.stalinsociety.com/news/homosexualityintheussr Homosexuality in the USSR]</ref>

The problem of youth sexuality was eventually deemed severe enough for the state to segregate male and female schooling. [[Ann Livschiz]] writes that this action reflected the "fundamental social conservatism of the majority of the top political leadership of the country and their great fear of youth, and particularly female, sexuality, as a force that could not be overcome, controlled or fully harnessed for the service of the state."<ref>Livschiz, Ann (2008). "Battling "Unhealthy Relations": Soviet Youth Sexuality as a Political Problem," ''Journal of Historical Sociology'', 21(4), 397-416.</ref>

==Age-disparate sex: Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong==

While exiled in Siberia, [[Josef Stalin]] is known to have had an affair with a 13-year-old female named Lidia, at the age of 36. In the biography ''Young Stalin'' (2007),<ref>Sebag-Montefiore, Simon (2007). ''[https://library.lol/main/22A2BAB1FDD0555538BBC0BE86FDC0E6 Young Stalin]''. Alfred A. Knopf. See also [https://siberiantimes.com/other/others/news/n0635-siberian-pensioner-is-grandson-of-josef-stalin-dna-test-reveals/ genetic proof.]</ref><ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454291/Stalin-lover-aged-13.html Stalin and his lover aged 13]</ref> Simon Sebag Montefiore wrote:

<blockquote>''We know no details of how this developed. But some time in early 1914 Stalin, now thirty-four, embarked on an affair with Lidia, aged thirteen.''

''We catch a glimpse of Stalin and Lidia together staggering from drinking-bout to drinking-bout because we have her memoirs of their boozy carousals: “In his spare time, Stalin liked to go to evening dances — he could be very jolly too. He loved to sing and dance. He especially liked the song ‘I’m guarding the gold, the gold . . . I’m burying the gold, burying the gold, Guess where, pure damsel with your golden hair’. . . He often joined birthday dinners.” The memoirs of Stalin’s thirteen-year-old mistress were recorded twenty years later ''[...]'' while she remained a Siberian housewife.''

[...]

''“He often liked to drop in on some people,” says Lidia, meaning herself. “And he also drank.” Was this how he seduced her — or she him? Girls in places like Kureika matured early — and Lidia does not sound like a shrinking violet.''

[...]

''Even though local lore discouraged affairs with exiles, the local girls were bound to be attracted to these worldly, educated revolutionaries in their midst. This statutory rape was not rape by force but an old-fashioned seduction.''</blockquote>

Monifore notes the [[age of consent]] among other important contextual factors:

<blockquote>''Fourteen was technically the age of consent in the Russian and European regions of the Tsarist Empire, but this was Siberia. Besides, there was no precise legal concept of statutory rape in Tsarist law: for the police, it was as much a crime “against female honour” as a violation of her father’s chattels. The seducer’s agreement to marry and then the exchange of marriage vows were seen as rectifying an untoward situation.''</blockquote>

The Chinese revolutionary and statesmen [[Mao Zedong]] wrote romantic poetry in youth and lived an active sex life which included many young female sexual partners. There are only 2 claims of sexual activity involving people under 18. The first comes from anti-communist writer Jonathan Mirsky, who in 1997 claimed to have interviewed a 57-years-old woman ("Mrs. Chen") in Hong Kong, who said she began having sex with Mao in 1962 when she was 14 and he 69/70.<ref>Mirsky. ''[https://archive.fo/TkNb5#selection-1049.0-1053.55 Me and Mao’s girl: An encounter with one of the Chairman’s underage lovers]'' (''The Spectator'', 2011).</ref> Chen appears to view the experience positively, with Mirsky noting that "She had plenty to say about the Great Helmsman’s virility and stamina", and how Mao cried after she was sent to work in the North of the country against his wishes:

<blockquote>''After five years, Jiang Qing insisted that Ms Chen be banished to the north-east, to a lesser job. Mao, she claimed, took her on his knee and wept, but said he could do nothing. After some years in exile, she was summoned back to Beijing for a brief stopover where Mao, again weeping, said he could do nothing for her and was sending her back to Nanking where her marriage had been arranged. (Ibid).''</blockquote>

It should be noted that Mirsky may be an unreliable source. His language is moralistic and derogatory ("monster"), and he consistently relies on and has even reviewed<ref>Mirsky. [https://archive.fo/WCpQ7 Unmasking the Monster]. Review of Mao's Private Life (1994)</ref> the source for the second claim about minors, Dr. Li Zhisui's ''The Private Life of Chairman Mao: The Memoirs of Mao’s Personal Physician'' (1994).<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Private_Life_of_Chairman_Mao Wiki page for Dr. Li's book.]</ref> Dr. Li's book claims that Mao loved to reminisce about an encounter he had as a teenage villager with a "pretty" 12-year-old female. While this concerns attraction instead of action, Dr. Li's book is the major source for evidence of Mao's sexual prowess, and includes events which are framed negatively such as Mao's alleged contracting and spreading venereal disease through sex. Dr. Li's claims have been critiqued by professional Chinese historian Mobo Gao in a dedicated chapter titled ''How a medical doctor doctors history: a case study of Li Zhisui'', in his 2008 book ''The Battle for China's Past''.<ref>''[https://library.lol/main/F3B2B6834C81EF8F7315CB42A5FB7A29 The Battle for China's Past]''</ref> There are many other professional critiques of commonly accepted anti-Stalin and anti-Mao claims.<ref>For Stalin and his time as statesmen, see the work of J. Arch Getty, Mark Tauger, Stephen Wheatcroft. See the work of Samantha Lomb, e.g. [https://library.lol/main/2AF37FFBA76E612B049D39AF88CB1969 Stalin’s Constitution: Soviet Participatory Politics] (Routledge, 2017). Much of these researcher's conclusions are highlighted in historian [https://library.lol/main/48F580E2E2B9D7E1BACAC9405F8420CB Grover Furr's writings], such as [https://library.lol/main/4F13589002A3DFA4B0139B332FEF54AD Blood Lies: The Evidence that Every Accusation against Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Union in Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands Is False] (2014), and [https://library.lol/main/0FA2BE18E21402199E0A70CA6ADB223E Stalin. Waiting For ... The Truth! Exposing the Falsehoods in Stephen Kotkin's 'Stalin. Waiting for Hitler, 1929-1941'] (2019). Roland Boer addresses Stalin's religious views, e.g. [https://library.lol/main/9AA9DF3F5C6A98251A0790001E52A0EA Stalin: From Theology to the Philosophy of Socialism in Power] (2017). A historically informed tract can be found in Domenico Losurdo, [https://library.lol/main/978159484621AC3A9C94C444A835A0D7 Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend] (2019).

For Mao, see Gao's later work such as his 2018 book [https://library.lol/main/F49C94C43F77A037E7E6785F7E1358A4 Constructing China: Clashing Views of the People's Republic]; Dongping Han, [https://library.lol/main/603AB84882D24FBE3B35C4FE83258619 The Unknown Cultural Revolution] (2000); Gregor Benton, Lin Chun (eds.), [https://library.lol/main/C62B578D7855A04612F41AB35811CDE5 Was Mao Really a Monster?: The academic response to Chang and Halliday's Mao: The Unknown Story] (2009); Lee Feigon, [https://library.lol/main/C7EB9DC36EC9A3164DE0C9DA115B2A78 Mao: A Reinterpretation] (2003); Daniel F. Vukovich, [https://library.lol/main/C19E4C1F55AA068CDBD882B904B8FC2A China and Orientalism: Western Knowledge Production and the PRC] (Routledge, 2013). A general book addressing both Stalin and Mao's governments is economist Austin Murphy's [https://library.lol/main/1463915729B5AE8F30FAC63DE6D2D87E The Triumph of Evil: the Reality of the USA’s Cold War Victory] (2000, European Academic Press).</ref>

==Evo Morales==

Born 26 October 1959, the 65th president of Bolivia from 2006 to 2019, [[wikipedia:Evo_Morales|'''Evo Morales''']], [[wikipedia:Evo_Morales#Statutory_rape_investigation|faced 2 accusations]] of [[statutory rape]] (unlawful consensual sex) in 2020. Leading the Movement for Socialism (MAS) party since 1998, he is widely regarded as a left-wing / socialist president, has been described as "the most famous Bolivian ever", and is considered the country's first president to come from its indigenous population. His government was considered part of the [[wikipedia:Pink_tide|pink tide]]. Summarized with information from Wikipedia:

<blockquote>''On 7 August 2020, several photographs of Morales with a supposed underage female came to light, and began circulating on social media. Journalist Alejandro Entreambasaguas and Bolivian authorities said that her and Morales had been in a relationship since she was 14 years old. Several news organizations related these claims with comments that Morales had made twice previously on retiring with a ''quinceañera'' (15-year-old) when he was no longer president.''</blockquote>

<blockquote>''The woman was later identified as 19-year-old '''Noemí Meneses''' when a statement to police was leaked. In the statement, she said she had been in a romantic relationship with Morales since May 2020, and had no previous relations with him. The Bolivian police subsequently placed her under house arrest from which she escaped and fled to Argentina with her parents. After arriving in Argentina, Meneses wrote a letter to the Bolivian Ombudsman saying that the police had kept her from eating for two days and threatened to prosecute her for sedition and terrorism unless she said that she had been in a relationship with Morales. She wrote that the police had "forced [her] to testify under pressure, without a lawyer".<ref>Wikipedia claims that "The circumstances of her arrest are further disputed". See in-text links for sources.</ref> Alleged evidence to corroborate a long-term romantic relationship between Morales and Meneses was obtained and subsequently published by Bolivian and Spanish press, including excerpts from 101 pages of text conversations and phone records between the two, 90 photos of the pair in various locations (including the presidential palace, the presidential jet and in Buenos Aires) and travel receipts. Meneses said she met Evo Morales when she was 16 during the 2015 carnival season, while declaration data indicates that she was born in 2001, meaning that she may-in-fact have been 14 when they met.''</blockquote>

<blockquote>''On 21 August 2020, an unrelated complaint of a second statutory rape case was filed against Morales. In this complaint, it is claimed that Morales had a child with a 15-year-old and that he is named as the father on the birth certificate. In response, Morales claimed that the complaint was part of a "dirty war" by the interim government against him.''</blockquote>

==Anti-capitalist supporters==

*An immediate demand of the [[Communist Party of Great Britain]] was until the early 2020s: "The abolition of age-of-consent laws. We recognise the right of individuals to enter into the sexual relations they choose provided this does not conflict with the rights of others. Alternative legislation to protect children from sexual abuse."<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201018151051/https://communistparty.co.uk/3-immediate-demands/ 2020 archived UKCP Positions/Demands]</ref> They have since removed this demand and do not have a set-in-stone policy on the [[Age of Consent]].

*[[The Spartacist League]]:

<blockquote>''Marxists oppose all laws against “crimes without victims,” such as prostitution, drug use or pornography. We utterly reject the practice whereby looking at pornography is equated with violent crimes such as rape, sexual assault and even murder. We also oppose the criminalization of those who look at child pornography which, like all pornography, is simply words and images designed for pleasure. ''[...]'' In line with this, we do not think intergenerational sex is by definition abusive, nor do we think incest is a priori a crime to be punished by the bourgeois state. ''[...]'' We oppose age of consent laws because we oppose state intervention into people’s private sexual activities. We do not accord the capitalist state the right to decree the age at which youth may engage in consensual sexual activity. To create genuinely free and equal relations between people in all spheres, including sex, requires nothing less than the destruction of this class system and the creation of a communist world. In a classless society, social and economic constraints over sexual relations will be non-existent, and in the words of Friedrich Engels, 'there is no other motive left except mutual inclination.'''<ref>[http://www.spartacist.org/english/wv/876/canadasex.html Spartacist League: Canada: Anti-Sex Crusade Targets Youth, Gays]</ref></blockquote>

In 1994, the Spartacist League supported MAP ally psychologist and gay liberation activist [[John P. De Cecco]] when local newspaper scandal led to protest against him at his university. In his defense, the League's San Francisco University youth chapter, the Spartacus Youth Club (SYC), organized a speakout protest/rally at the university.

*The US Revolutionary Socialist League (disbanded):

<blockquote>''We believe that all consensual sex is the business only of those involved. The state has no business regulating in any way expressions of sexuality between consenting persons of any number, sex, or age. The state's attempt to regulate youth sexuality in particular is rooted in young people's position as property of their parents and/or wards of the state. Young people are jailed in schools, economically exploited, and denied the most basic political rights. Society maintains this oppression by imposing the idea that young people are not capable of determing their own wants and needs, in particular their sexual needs and desires. We oppose age of consent laws. These laws deny the ability of young people to determine their own sexual needs and desires. They maintain the status of youth as property, and reinforce the closet for gay youth.<ref>[http://books.google.ca/books?id=0b5xmYpoZE4C Gay Men and the Sexual History of the Political Left - G Books]</ref></blockquote>

*Sandra Bloodworth:

<blockquote>''Ultimately children will not gain genuine liberation until capitalism has been destroyed root and branch and a new society is built in which all human sexuality is encouraged and nurtured instead of despised and repressed.''<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080726073919/http://www.sa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=565&Itemid=106 Socialist Alternative: Children and Sex]</ref></blockquote>

*[[Harry Hay]] and [[Jim Kepner]], pro-pederast founders of the [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|modern gay movement]].
*[[David Thorstad]], president of the Gay Activists Alliance and a founder of [[NAMBLA]].
*Marxist/anarchist women profiled on our [[feminism]] page: Shulamith Firestone, Germaine Greer, Simone de Beauvoir.
*[[Roger Moody]], [[Michel Foucault]], [[Guy Hocquenghem]], [[Peter Tatchell]] and various others associated with the early gay and [[MAP Movement]]s.
*Anarchist figures - German MAP figure [[Peter Schult]]; anarchist theorists/figures [[Hakim Bey]]/Peter Lamborn Wilson, [[John Henry Mackay]], [[Wolfi Landstreicher]]. Renown Anarchist [[Noam Chomsky]], who was scandalized in 2023 media for his ever having been willing to associate with [[Jeffrey Epstein]] and [[Woody Allen]]: associations which he defends.
*Philosopher [[Slavoj Žižek]] - various relevant statements.
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/CapitalismVSocialism/comments/owqdft/bourgeois_vs_proletarian_sexuality/ Reddit thread] which cites [[Michel Foucault]], sees age-gap sex as proletarian (i.e. working class).
*"''Paedophilia and Public Morals''" (1980), a booklet produced by [[The Campaign Against Public Morals]] (CAPM), a group of Left-wing activists who formed an organization in defence of [[Thomas O'Carroll]] (himself a self-identified democratic socialist and equal opportunities feminist) and his [[PIE]] co-defendants in the wake of an upcoming 1981 trial for "Conspiracy to corrupt public morals". The booklet offers [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|testimonies]] of positive age-gap sexual contact, whilst offering philosophical treatise which scrutinize patriarchal, state and family oppression of young people.
*Many authors in [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'']], Edited by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), were left-wing activists. E.g. John Lindsay, 'Socialism, Class, and Children's Rights', pp.134-141.<ref>[https://library.lol/main/D3E65600BCD53F898EE99AEBF6BCBC24 ''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'', ed. by Warren Middleton (London: CL Publications, 1986)]. Libgen link.</ref>
*"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1pXPR_PtKQ Pedophilia is proletarian]" (2021) video on youtube, by Benjamin Ingram. Other videos include "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=653CW9MYGf0 The Pedophilic Lebensraum Of Autonomous Zones]" (referring to [[Hakim Bey]]).
*YouTube streamer [[Vaush]] has made various comments and arguments about [[pedophilia]], [[Child Pornography]], and [[Accounts_and_Testimonies|mutually willing adult-child sex]], during his streaming career.
*[https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Viki1999 Viki1999], a transgender Austrian leftist YouTube channel who joined the platform on June 1, 2019, announced on May 29, 2023, that she was [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wdj5kV-p4Q quitting YouTube] after being accused of being a pedophile. Viki was accused because of posts she had made to her Discord server indicating she found a 15-year-old attractive, and that, compared to Florida's age of consent at 18, "in austria it's 14 ;)". Viki stated that these were jokes in context, and that accusations of pedophilia led her to feel suicidal. Her accusers have since apologized, and she plans to continue her career as a sex worker with far higher earnings than YouTube.

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Если хочешь быть здоров - закаляйся

Krumme13

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'''Krumme13''' (Crooked13) is a German online media-portal and forum for [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]], that grew out of a now dissolved activist association of the same name.<ref>[https://taz-de.translate.goog/!1124679/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translated 2002 TAZ Piece]</ref> The portal, which runs social media accounts on YouTube and Instagram is managed by [[Dieter Gieseking]], who also founded the association in 1993, officially closing it in 2003. Their application for recognition as a non-profit association was rejected in 2001, as was the entry in the German register of associations. The association had at times faced controversy concerning its "field reports" into the status and nature of [[Child pornography|Youth Erotica]], before the statutes were strengthened in the 10s. The only convictions that came about from these events were nevertheless for a translated testimony from Dutch Politician [[Edward Brongersma]]'s widely legal ''Loving Boys'', and not images.<ref>[https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/unter-der-guertellinie-a-10e512bc-0002-0001-0000-000020899215?context=issue&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Spiegel: Google Trans]</ref><ref>[https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/tp/features/Krummes-Urteil-wegen-Paedophilie-im-Internet-3429241.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Telepolis - Google Trans]</ref> Subsequently, the men were acquitted.<ref>[https://krumme13.org/text.php?s=read&id=383 Krumme13 on acquittal], and [[https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Gericht=OLG%20Koblenz&Datum=26.09.2005&Aktenzeichen=2%20Ss%20256/05 official record]]</ref> The group also called for the relaxation of Youth Erotica statutes and legislation that criminalizes voluntary sexual relations between [[Minor-adult sex|minors and adults]], arguing in favor of freedom for minors.

More recently, Krumme13 has started criminal proceedings against '''Queer.de''', after they were accused of encouraging criminal activity.

==Reactions==

In autumn 2001, two members of Krumme13 were charged with distributing explicit materials on the internet via the Krumme13 website at the time.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20141028165953/http://www.cdu-fraktion-rlp.de/no_cache/presseinformationen/details/artikel/1472/1011/index.html?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=7&cHash=07425ddc7c CDU archive]</ref>

After protest actions by residents and child protection associations, Krumme13 continued its activities in Hamburg-Eidelstedt from 2002. That year around 50,000 people signed a petition from the Schotterblume e.V. (contact and information center for victims of mental, physical and sexual violence in childhood and partnership) to the German Bundestag in order to achieve a ban on pedophile associations and the “dissemination of pedophile ideas”.<ref>[https://www.schotterblume.de/verein/news/035.htm “Schotterblume” starts a petition against pedophile associations]</ref>

==See also==

*[[Preventionism]] - An idea that was developed in Germany, with [[anti-contact]] MAPs.
*[[Vereniging MARTIJN]]
*[[NAMBLA]]
*[[Newgon]]

==External links==

*[https://krumme13.org/ Official Website] - In German.
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_sV--ca4bI Interview] - A relaxed interview with Dieter Gieseking (in German).
*[https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Krumme_13?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Google Translated Wikipedia Article]

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__NOTOC__{{Template:Lists}}The music featured in this list is mainly from before 2010, and could benefit from new additions, link cleaning, maintenance and proper dating.

==Songs==

===Only music===

*Aerosmith: [http://www.lyricsdownload.com/deuces-are-wild-aerosmith-lyrics.html "Deuces Are Wild"] - "I been lovin' you since you was a child girl, Cause you an' me is two of a kind"

*Alan Price: [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/randy-newman/simon-smith-and-the-amazing-dancing-bear.html Simon Smith and his Amazing Dancing Bear]

*All American Rejects: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-wanna-lyrics-all-american-rejects.html "I Wanna"] - "I wanna, I wanna, I wanna touch you, You wanna touch me too, Everyday but all I have is time, Our love's the perfect crime."

*Alizee - Moi... Lolita (Me… Lolita) by singer Alizée then aged 16, in her album Gourmandises. French Lyrics.
::Lolita (Lola) is a first name but also a name synonymous with nymphet. Lolita (following the erotic-tragic novel by Vladimir Nabokov in 1955) is nicknamed the young girl who appeals to mature men, by virtue of her freshness and lightness.

*American Bang: [http://www.elyricsworld.com/we_are_wild_and_young_lyrics_american_bang.html Wild and Young] - "I fell in love with a southern girl" "we are wild and young, we have just begun" "take a deep breathe and make it last! These should be the best days of your life" "there's no reason to run" "slow it down" "what happened to the days of doin what we wanted to do?" "we should kick back just have a little fun to kids gettin high, have a couple beers in the sun" (([[Wrestling|WWE NXT]]) opening [http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/wwenxt/2010/february8-14/13491168 Video])

*Benny Mardones: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ki-8XuStK0 Into the Night] - "She's just 16 years old, Leave her alone they said......If I could fly I'd pick you up, and take you into the night"

*Bruce Springsteen: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bruce+springsteen/im+on+fire_20025015.html I'm On Fire] - "Hey little girl is your daddy home, did he go away and leave you all alone? I got a bad desire, oh oh oh I'm on fire"

*Cher: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/cher/gypsies+tramps+thieves_20029746.html Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves] - "I picked up a boy just south of mobile, Gave him a ride, filled him with a hot meal, I was thirteen, he was thirty-one"

*Deadsy: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Itty-Bitty-Titty-Girl-Itsy-Bitsy-Titsy-Girl-lyrics-Deadsy/23EF82B656E5B3FE48256BE60008B901.html Itsy Bitsy Titsy Girl] - "Oh, itsy bitsy titsy girl, where are you? Oh, itsy bitsy titsy said our love was true. Oh, my itsy bitsy titsy, so young and so unused. Now, itsy bitsy titsy plays a mean hop-scotch. As she does her little ditty, I can stare at her crotch. Oh, my itsy bitsy titsy, little queen of double dutch..."

*Depeche Mode: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/depeche+mode/a+question+of+time_20039255.html A Question of Time] - "I've got to get to you first, before they do, it's just a question of time, before they lay their hands on you, and make you just like the rest, I've got to get to you first, it's just a question of time... well now you're only fifteen, and you look good, I'll take you under my wing, somebody should"

*Edward Ryan and Glenn Vernon in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042570 Hollywood Varieties] (produced 1949) sing [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiNT6AKG0s this] before doing a [[BLACK FACE contempo]]: "Pretty little girls: we ask them once, we ask them twice, they make us feel like mice! Why do they say yes when they really mean no? Why do they stop when they really should go? We're under their spell! Why do they squirm? If they keep that up we'll be a wreck! We can't stand this much more, we wish that we could score, with any one of our little girls!"

*Eminem: [http://www.hotlyrics.net/lyrics/E/Eminem/Guilty_Conscience_%5BAcappella%5D.html Guilty Conscience (Acappella)] - "Yo, look at her bush. Does it got hair? (uhuh) Fuck this bitch right on that spot there.'Till she passes out she forgot how she got their.(Man, ain't you ever seen that one movie Kids?) No, but I seen the porno thats on nubiest!(Shit, you wanna get hauled off to jail?)Fuck that, hit that shit raw dawg and bail."

*Faith No More: [http://www.lyricsdownload.com/faith-no-more-edge-of-the-world-410-lyrics.html Edge of the World] - "Hey, little girl, Would you like some candy?.. Come sit right down, Lay your head on my shoulder, It's not the point, That I'm forty years older.. Give me a smile, Let me see those pearlies, I'll do anything, For the little girlies"

*Fleetwood Mac - Beautiful Child

*Gary Puckett and the Union Gap: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn0ZJHVH17I Young Girl] "Young girl, get out of my mind. My love for you is way out of line. Better run girl, you're much too young girl. - With all the charms of a woman, you've kept the secret of your youth. You led me to believe you're old enough to give me love and now it hurts to know the truth. - Beneath your perfume and make-up, you're just a baby in disguise, and though you know that it is wrong to be alone with me that come on look is in your eyes. - So hurry home to your mama, I'm sure she wonders where you are. Get out of here before I have the time to change my mind, 'cause I'm afraid we'll go too far" (See also: [[Bob Saget]] on [[Full House]]). [Note: "While the age of the girl is never revealed in the song, the writer Jerry Fuller said it was based on his own personal experience when certain “14-year-olds look like 20-year-olds”. This piece of information gives the song a more sinister twist as it’s actually about a much older man in love with an underage girl." -Genius Lyrics].

*Gilbert O'Sullivan - Clair
::"''The song is a love song from the point of view of a close family friend who babysits a young girl (actually the artist's manager's daughter), though for the first part of the song, the ambiguous words lead one to think that it is a romantic song from one adult to another. The real Clair was the three-year-old daughter of O'Sullivan's producer-manager. The little girl's giggling is heard at the end of this song.''" - (as per Wikipedia, 2023)

*Grateful Dead: [http://www.lyrics007.com/Grateful%20Dead%20Lyrics/Good%20Morning%20Little%20Schoolgirl%20Lyrics.html Good Morning Little Schoolgirl] - "Good morning little schoolgirl, Can I come home with you? Tell your mama and your papa, I'm a little schoolboy too." [Note: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Morning%2C_School_Girl This song] is very famous, first recorded in 1937 by Blues pioneer John Lee "Sonny Boy" Williamson, and covered by many artists across modern history].

*Guns 'n' Roses: [http://www.lyrics007.com/Guns%20N'%20Roses%20Lyrics/Sweet%20Child%20O'%20Mine%20Lyrics.html Sweet Child O' Mine] - "Sweet child o' mine, sweet love of mine, where do we go now?"

*Heart: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/heart/magic+man_20064749.html "Magic Man"] - A little more subtle, but is clearly about a woman remembering losing her virginity to a much older man ("Come on home, girl he said with a smile, I cast my spell of love on you a woman from a child")

*Hour of 13: Missing Girl - "I see her walking all alone / On her way between her school and home / I see her as she passes by / Now I have the chance I´ll make her mine"

*Jethro Tull: [http://www.collecting-tull.com/Albums/Lyrics/Aqualung.html Aqualung] - "Sitting on a park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent. Snot running down his nose greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run."

*Led Zeppelin: The Ocean - "Now I'm singing all my songs to the girl who won my heart. She is only three years old and it's a real fine way to start."

*Lynyrd Skynyrd: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/What's-Your-Name-lyrics-Lynyrd-Skynyrd/F5723A5F65439B45482569EB001390D0 What's Your Name?] - "I done made some plans for later on tonight. I'll find a little queen and I know I can treat her right. What's your name, little girl? What's your name? Shootin' you straight, little girl? Won't you do the same?. The police said we can't drink in the bar, what a shame. Won't you come upstairs girl and have a drink of champagne?"

*Marilyn Manson:
:*''Smells Like Children'' - particularly '[http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/marilyn_manson_lyrics_205/smells_like_children_lyrics_1021/everlasting_cocksucker_remix_lyrics_11619.html Everlasting Cocksucker]' ([[cake]] and [[Buttsecks|sodomy]]) and '[http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/marilyn_manson_lyrics_205/smells_like_children_lyrics_1021/abuse_part_2_confession_lyrics_11622.html Abuse Part 2]'.
:*[http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Wrapped-in-Plastic-lyrics-Marilyn-Manson/39D071225374D602482568C10011E202 Wrapped in Plastic] - "Daddy tells the daughter While mommy's sleeping at night To wash away sin you must take off your skin The righteous father wears the yellowest grin"

*Maximum the Hormone - "''Chu Chu Lovely''" - We all know how those wacky Japs love the [[loli]]/[[shota]]!

*[[Michael Jackson]]'s Thriller - I mean, we all know what thrills him. Amirite?

*Mother of Invention: [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/frank-zappa/motherly-love.html "Motherly Love"] - "Send us up some little groupies and we'll take their hands and rock 'em till they sweat and cry."

*Oingo Boingo:
:*[http://www.lyricsfreak.com/o/oingo+boingo/little+girls_20102778.html Little Girls] - "I love little girls..."
:*[http://www.lyricsdownload.com/oingo-boingo-nothing-to-fear-lyrics.html Nothing to Fear] - "Hey little girl won't you come this way, Wont you let me buy you candy, or perhaps a chocolate shake, Or perhaps some nice cocaine, or perhaps a little kiss, Or perhaps a ride in my big car, Perhaps a ride in my big car, Wont you make an old man happy, Won't you make an old man happy, Wont you let me show you paradise(dont ask your mother for advice)"

*Ozzy Osbourne: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Mr-Tinkertrain-lyrics-Ozzy-Osbourne/9359707830080431482568B7000CBC78 Mr. Tinkertrain] - "Would you like some sweeties little girl? Come a little closer... I'm gonna show you a brand new world tonight! I've got a palace full of fantasy, ready made just for you and me. Once you're there I'm gonna take you for a ride..."

*Ranga Maliyela (Ketaki Mategaonkar and Sharayu Date, 2019). Song produced for the autobiographical movie of India’s first female doctor, [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], who would marry her husband at the age of 9.

*Scala Girls Choir: [http://www.ironcircus.com/Scala_-_I_Touch_Myself.mp3 I Touch Myself] - "I'd get down on my knees, I'd do anything for you. I love myself, I want you to love me..."

*Shawn Colvin: [http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/colvin-shawn/suicide-alley-10539.html Suicide Alley] - "Sitting naked by the window in the middle of the night, I can see you wearing your halo, If only in the daybreak of the dirty streetlight, I know baby wasn't born to follow."

*Simon and Garfunkel: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/baby-driver-lyrics-simon-and-garfunkel.html Baby Driver] - "Theres no one home, were all alone, Oh come to my room and play, Yes we can play! I'm not talking about your pigtails, But I'm talking bout your sex appeal..." [[YA RLY|Yeah, really.]]

*Spinal Tap: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Tonight-I'm-Gonna-Rock-You-Tonight-lyrics-Spinal-Tap/17C816C9E6CC2FDC48256DCE002F5635 Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight] - "You're sweet but you're just four feet and you still got your baby teeth, you're too young and I'm too well hung"

*Steely Dan: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/everyones-gone-to-the-movies-lyrics-steely-dan.html Everyone's Gone to the Movies] - "Kids if you want some fun, See what you never have seen, Take off your cheaters and sit right down, Start the projection machine"

*Steinski: [http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=11246 Lolita] - "''Ordinary, Plumpish, Formless, Cold-skinned... Little girls.''" Who know Pedobear was a pretty awesome DJ too?

*Steppenwolf: [http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/magcca.html Magic Carpet Ride] - "Well, you don't know what we can find, Why don't you come with me little girl, On a magic carpet ride."

*Stone Temple Pilots: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/s/stone+temple+pilots/sex+type+thing_20132550.html Sex Type Thing] - "I'll give ya somethin' that ya won't forget, I said ya shouldn't have worn that dress"

*The Doors: [http://www.actionext.com/names_d/doors_the_lyrics/alabama_song_-_whiskey_bar.html Alabama Song (Whisky Bar)] - "Well show me the way, to the next little girl... Oh don't ask why"

*The Eels: [http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/justmyluck/heymannowyourereallyliving.htm Hey Man] - "Have you ever made love to a beautiful girl? Made you feel like it's not such a bad world? Hey man, now you're really living!"

*The Knack: [http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/realitybites/mysharona.htm My Sharona] - "Never gonna stop, give it up. Such a dirty mind. Always get it up for the touch of the younger kind."

*The Police & Sting - [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/police/dont+stand+so+close+to+me_20110096.html Don't Stand So Close to Me]: "Young teacher, the subject of schoolgirl fantasy, she wants him so badly"

*The Sugarcubes (Björk) - Birthday
::"''It’s a story about a love affair between a five year old girl, a secret, and a man who lives next door. I was always changing my mind about what the lyrics should be about. I had the atmosphere right from the start but not the facts. It finally ended up concentrating on this experience I remembered having as a little girl, among many other little girls’ experiences. It’s like huge men, about 50 [years old] or so, affect little girls very erotically but nothing happens … nothing is done, just this very strong feeling. I picked on this subject to show that anything can affect you erotically; material, a tree, anything.''" - Björk

*Tool:
:*[http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tool/maynardsdick.html Maynard's Dick] - "Would you like to climb on, Climb on my six inches and go down on Maynard's dick"
:*[http://www.toolband.com/album/lyrics/undertow.html Prison Sex] - "(little girl:) I was so young and vestal then, you know it hurt me...I've got my hands bound, my head down, my eyes closed, and my throat wide open. (Pedobear:)My lamb and martyr, you look so precious. Won't you come a bit closer, close enough so I can smell you. I need you to feel this, I can't stand to burn too long. Released in this sodomy. For one sweet moment I am whole...Got your hands bound, your head down, your eyes closed. You look so precious now. I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this shit blood and cum on my hands."
:*[http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Third-Eye-lyrics-Tool/6956417022EE8C2148256A57002C304C Third Eye] - "Came out to watch you play. Why are you running away? ... On my back and tumbling, Down that hole and back again ... in.. out.. in.. out.."

*U2: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooropa Zooropa] / [http://www.u2.com/discography/lyrics/lyric/song/19 Babyface, Babyface] - "Slow down child, let me untie your lace...Bitter-sweet girl, won't you give me a taste..."

*Vehicle: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBMo8xHGNs The Ides of March] - "Hey, well I'm the friendly stranger in the black sedan oh won't you hop inside my car? I got pictures, got candy, I am a lovable man, I'd like to take you to the nearest star. I'm your vehicle baby, I'll take you anywhere you wanna go. I'm your vehicle woman, By now I'm sure you know that I love ya (love you) need ya (need you) I want to, got to have you child Great God in heaven, you know I love you"

*Winger: [http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/w/winger7682/seventeen394211.html Seventeen] - "She's only seventeen, daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me"

*Anal Cunt (AxCx):
:* [https://genius.com/Axcx-yay-its-pink-lyrics Yay! It’s Pink!] - "Looking pretty hot covered with blood and my cum. Only 17, and so fucking dumb"
:* [https://genius.com/Axcx-i-gave-nambla-pictures-of-your-kid-lyrics I gave NAMBLA pictures of your kid] - "I followed Artimus Pyle after a Lynyrd Skynyrd show. We ended up at a NAMBLA meeting. I knocked at the door and Artimus Pyle answered. I gave him pictures of your kid because I hate him"

===Video with music===

*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MPA8dbG3Go Alexandru Bognibov - "I Love The Girls"] - "I love the girls of thirteen years old, Thirteen years old and nothing else, me baby"
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=E_THqHqUXZU Ballet Blue] (and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5wQPdJwHYA another version]) "Baby girl... you better keep your eye on me. I'm not trying to hurt, don't even want to be free. But when I see them walk and I hear them talk, well that's the end of me. They have bumps and curls and I haven't even mentioned their lips. They have wild eyes that make me lie and lips right up to their hips. They're from outer space, they're the fairer race and we all know who's in control. But with a lick of the lips and a swing of the hips, well a man can can lose his soul. Stop it, I like it. Stop it, [[feels good]]. You're so wrong I'm getting excited. Please don't stop, though I know you should."
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWhn0Hc8ps Benny Mardones - "Into the Night"] 1980
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZFreurbf3o remix by Nick Kamen] 1987
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJrqDNBF1Yk remix by Junior Tucker] 1991
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLvjsqbLqM Triple J's remix] Feb 2009 or earlier
:*Harlem Yu's 2009 remix needed
:*Usher did a 2010 remix Making Love (Into the Night) in Raymond vs Raymond
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTW8oUV8Aq0 Bloodhound Gang - "The Bad Touch"] - Pedobear ain't nothin' but a mammal.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdCl0WP5FnI Chuck Berry - "Memphis Tennessee"] - Chuck Berry likes the little girls.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=nPA6vwKIBGQ Dr. Hook & The Medicine Band - "Only Sixteen"] - "She was only sixteen, only sixteen. But I loved her so."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=uF0WdIbt0-s Jethro Tull - ''Aqualung''] - "Sitting on the park bench, eyeing little girls with bad intent.. Watching as the frilly panties run. (I have a painting of the titular character on my wall that my aunt painted in 1972.)"
*Mann Bharrya - "''The little friend story''" (B Praak & Jaani, 2019). The music video tells of the emotional bond formed between a boy and a young man.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=CKl_7zK3fbI Marcy Playground - "Sex and Candy"] - What, you need any moar of an explanation?!
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQFmghga0c Maximum Hormone - "Chu Chu Lovely"] - "A college student would be good. A high school student would be good. A middle school student would be good. An elementary school student would be good. It would be great if they were tantalizing. A kindergartner would be good."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUOdyMn4p4Q Mustard Plug - Lolita] - [http://www.lyricstime.com/mustard-plug-lolita-lyrics.html "Lolita, I wanna meet ya, I wanna take you in my arms and squeeze ya"]
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA Oingo Boingo - "Little Girls"] Nuff said
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=76O6tuJPe3w Ringo Starr - "You're Sixteen"] "You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine. [[Star Wars|CARRIE FISHER]] IS IN THIS VIDEO! [[FAP]] [[Fanboys]] [[FAP]]!
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mn_SzyteePM Rooney - "Daisy Duke"] - "You're too young for me but I can keep a secret. I'm in total control of the situation. Bow down daisy duke.. I'm sorry for cuffing you to my bathtub."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=KHwMGsTftsA Rush - "Digital Man"] - "He's got a force field and a flexible plan, he's got a date with fate in a black sedan, he plays fast forward just as long as he can, but he don't need a bed, he's a digital man."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=2O_M6cH5Bgk Steely Dan - "Everyone's Gone To The Movies"] - "Kids if you want some fun, Mr. LaPage is your man. He's always laughing, having some fun, showing films in his den. Come on, come on. Soon you will be 18, I think you know what I mean. Don't tell your mama, your daddy or mama, they'll never know where you been. Everyone's gone to the movies, now were alone at last."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=D9ebT_jeKoo Sting - "Don't Stand So Close To Me"] - "Inside her, there's longing. This girl's an open page. Book marking - she's so close now. This girl is half his age."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=R89NqQv26PU Three Six Mafia - "Loli Loli"] - "Loli, loli, loli, loli, let me see you park that body."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=BacCAXDLz10 Throw Me The Statue - "Lolita"] - Do I need to explain?
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=WW5VWSnven4 Toy-Box - "Wizard of Oz"] - "I am searching for the magic land. Follow me, my girl. (Okay.) Do you have to touch me with your magic hands? It's part of the ritual. (Hey, hands off, Mister!)"
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=gqU_0xpILIU Yello - "Oh Yeah"] - Watch and believe it.

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__NOTOC__{{Template:Lists}}The music featured in this list is mainly from before 2010, and could benefit from new additions, link cleaning, maintenance and proper dating.

==Songs==

===Only music===

*Aerosmith: [http://www.lyricsdownload.com/deuces-are-wild-aerosmith-lyrics.html "Deuces Are Wild"] - "I been lovin' you since you was a child girl, Cause you an' me is two of a kind"

*Alan Price: [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/randy-newman/simon-smith-and-the-amazing-dancing-bear.html Simon Smith and his Amazing Dancing Bear] (a.k.a. when Pedobear turns into a [[faggot]]) - " "

*All American Rejects: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-wanna-lyrics-all-american-rejects.html "I Wanna"] - "I wanna, I wanna, I wanna touch you, You wanna touch me too, Everyday but all I have is time, Our love's the perfect crime."

*Alizee - Moi... Lolita (Me… Lolita) by singer Alizée then aged 16, in her album Gourmandises. French Lyrics.
::Lolita (Lola) is a first name but also a name synonymous with nymphet. Lolita (following the erotic-tragic novel by Vladimir Nabokov in 1955) is nicknamed the young girl who appeals to mature men, by virtue of her freshness and lightness.

*American Bang: [http://www.elyricsworld.com/we_are_wild_and_young_lyrics_american_bang.html Wild and Young] - "I fell in love with a southern girl" "we are wild and young, we have just begun" "take a deep breathe and make it last! These should be the best days of your life" "there's no reason to run" "slow it down" "what happened to the days of doin what we wanted to do?" "we should kick back just have a little fun to kids gettin high, have a couple beers in the sun" (([[Wrestling|WWE NXT]]) opening [http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/wwenxt/2010/february8-14/13491168 Video])

*Benny Mardones: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ki-8XuStK0 Into the Night] - "She's just 16 years old, Leave her alone they said......If I could fly I'd pick you up, and take you into the night"

*Bruce Springsteen: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bruce+springsteen/im+on+fire_20025015.html I'm On Fire] - "Hey little girl is your daddy home, did he go away and leave you all alone? I got a bad desire, oh oh oh I'm on fire"

*Cher: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/cher/gypsies+tramps+thieves_20029746.html Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves] - "I picked up a boy just south of mobile, Gave him a ride, filled him with a hot meal, I was thirteen, he was thirty-one"

*Deadsy: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Itty-Bitty-Titty-Girl-Itsy-Bitsy-Titsy-Girl-lyrics-Deadsy/23EF82B656E5B3FE48256BE60008B901.html Itsy Bitsy Titsy Girl] - "Oh, itsy bitsy titsy girl, where are you? Oh, itsy bitsy titsy said our love was true. Oh, my itsy bitsy titsy, so young and so unused. Now, itsy bitsy titsy plays a mean hop-scotch. As she does her little ditty, I can stare at her crotch. Oh, my itsy bitsy titsy, little queen of double dutch..."

*Depeche Mode: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/depeche+mode/a+question+of+time_20039255.html A Question of Time] - "I've got to get to you first, before they do, it's just a question of time, before they lay their hands on you, and make you just like the rest, I've got to get to you first, it's just a question of time... well now you're only fifteen, and you look good, I'll take you under my wing, somebody should"

*Edward Ryan and Glenn Vernon in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042570 Hollywood Varieties] (produced 1949) sing [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiNT6AKG0s this] before doing a [[BLACK FACE contempo]]: "Pretty little girls: we ask them once, we ask them twice, they make us feel like mice! Why do they say yes when they really mean no? Why do they stop when they really should go? We're under their spell! Why do they squirm? If they keep that up we'll be a wreck! We can't stand this much more, we wish that we could score, with any one of our little girls!"

*Eminem: [http://www.hotlyrics.net/lyrics/E/Eminem/Guilty_Conscience_%5BAcappella%5D.html Guilty Conscience (Acappella)] - "Yo, look at her bush. Does it got hair? (uhuh) Fuck this bitch right on that spot there.'Till she passes out she forgot how she got their.(Man, ain't you ever seen that one movie Kids?) No, but I seen the porno thats on nubiest!(Shit, you wanna get hauled off to jail?)Fuck that, hit that shit raw dawg and bail."

*Faith No More: [http://www.lyricsdownload.com/faith-no-more-edge-of-the-world-410-lyrics.html Edge of the World] - "Hey, little girl, Would you like some candy?.. Come sit right down, Lay your head on my shoulder, It's not the point, That I'm forty years older.. Give me a smile, Let me see those pearlies, I'll do anything, For the little girlies"

*Fleetwood Mac - Beautiful Child

*Gary Puckett and the Union Gap: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn0ZJHVH17I Young Girl] "Young girl, get out of my mind. My love for you is way out of line. Better run girl, you're much too young girl. - With all the charms of a woman, you've kept the secret of your youth. You led me to believe you're old enough to give me love and now it hurts to know the truth. - Beneath your perfume and make-up, you're just a baby in disguise, and though you know that it is wrong to be alone with me that come on look is in your eyes. - So hurry home to your mama, I'm sure she wonders where you are. Get out of here before I have the time to change my mind, 'cause I'm afraid we'll go too far" (See also: [[Bob Saget]] on [[Full House]]). [Note: "While the age of the girl is never revealed in the song, the writer Jerry Fuller said it was based on his own personal experience when certain “14-year-olds look like 20-year-olds”. This piece of information gives the song a more sinister twist as it’s actually about a much older man in love with an underage girl." -Genius Lyrics].

*Gilbert O'Sullivan - Clair
::"''The song is a love song from the point of view of a close family friend who babysits a young girl (actually the artist's manager's daughter), though for the first part of the song, the ambiguous words lead one to think that it is a romantic song from one adult to another. The real Clair was the three-year-old daughter of O'Sullivan's producer-manager. The little girl's giggling is heard at the end of this song.''" - (as per Wikipedia, 2023)

*Grateful Dead: [http://www.lyrics007.com/Grateful%20Dead%20Lyrics/Good%20Morning%20Little%20Schoolgirl%20Lyrics.html Good Morning Little Schoolgirl] - "Good morning little schoolgirl, Can I come home with you? Tell your mama and your papa, I'm a little schoolboy too." [Note: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Morning%2C_School_Girl This song] is very famous, first recorded in 1937 by Blues pioneer John Lee "Sonny Boy" Williamson, and covered by many artists across modern history].

*Guns 'n' Roses: [http://www.lyrics007.com/Guns%20N'%20Roses%20Lyrics/Sweet%20Child%20O'%20Mine%20Lyrics.html Sweet Child O' Mine] - "Sweet child o' mine, sweet love of mine, where do we go now?"

*Heart: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/heart/magic+man_20064749.html "Magic Man"] - A little more subtle, but is clearly about a woman remembering losing her virginity to a much older man ("Come on home, girl he said with a smile, I cast my spell of love on you a woman from a child")

*Hour of 13: Missing Girl - "I see her walking all alone / On her way between her school and home / I see her as she passes by / Now I have the chance I´ll make her mine"

*Jethro Tull: [http://www.collecting-tull.com/Albums/Lyrics/Aqualung.html Aqualung] - "Sitting on a park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent. Snot running down his nose greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run."

*Led Zeppelin: The Ocean - "Now I'm singing all my songs to the girl who won my heart. She is only three years old and it's a real fine way to start."

*Lynyrd Skynyrd: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/What's-Your-Name-lyrics-Lynyrd-Skynyrd/F5723A5F65439B45482569EB001390D0 What's Your Name?] - "I done made some plans for later on tonight. I'll find a little queen and I know I can treat her right. What's your name, little girl? What's your name? Shootin' you straight, little girl? Won't you do the same?. The police said we can't drink in the bar, what a shame. Won't you come upstairs girl and have a drink of champagne?"

*Marilyn Manson:
:*''Smells Like Children'' - particularly '[http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/marilyn_manson_lyrics_205/smells_like_children_lyrics_1021/everlasting_cocksucker_remix_lyrics_11619.html Everlasting Cocksucker]' ([[cake]] and [[Buttsecks|sodomy]]) and '[http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/marilyn_manson_lyrics_205/smells_like_children_lyrics_1021/abuse_part_2_confession_lyrics_11622.html Abuse Part 2]'.
:*[http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Wrapped-in-Plastic-lyrics-Marilyn-Manson/39D071225374D602482568C10011E202 Wrapped in Plastic] - "Daddy tells the daughter While mommy's sleeping at night To wash away sin you must take off your skin The righteous father wears the yellowest grin"

*Maximum the Hormone - "''Chu Chu Lovely''" - We all know how those wacky Japs love the [[loli]]/[[shota]]!

*[[Michael Jackson]]'s Thriller - I mean, we all know what thrills him. Amirite?

*Mother of Invention: [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/frank-zappa/motherly-love.html "Motherly Love"] - "Send us up some little groupies and we'll take their hands and rock 'em till they sweat and cry."

*Oingo Boingo:
:*[http://www.lyricsfreak.com/o/oingo+boingo/little+girls_20102778.html Little Girls] - "I love little girls..."
:*[http://www.lyricsdownload.com/oingo-boingo-nothing-to-fear-lyrics.html Nothing to Fear] - "Hey little girl won't you come this way, Wont you let me buy you candy, or perhaps a chocolate shake, Or perhaps some nice cocaine, or perhaps a little kiss, Or perhaps a ride in my big car, Perhaps a ride in my big car, Wont you make an old man happy, Won't you make an old man happy, Wont you let me show you paradise(dont ask your mother for advice)"

*Ozzy Osbourne: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Mr-Tinkertrain-lyrics-Ozzy-Osbourne/9359707830080431482568B7000CBC78 Mr. Tinkertrain] - "Would you like some sweeties little girl? Come a little closer... I'm gonna show you a brand new world tonight! I've got a palace full of fantasy, ready made just for you and me. Once you're there I'm gonna take you for a ride..."

*Ranga Maliyela (Ketaki Mategaonkar and Sharayu Date, 2019). Song produced for the autobiographical movie of India’s first female doctor, [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], who would marry her husband at the age of 9.

*Scala Girls Choir: [http://www.ironcircus.com/Scala_-_I_Touch_Myself.mp3 I Touch Myself] - "I'd get down on my knees, I'd do anything for you. I love myself, I want you to love me..."

*Shawn Colvin: [http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/colvin-shawn/suicide-alley-10539.html Suicide Alley] - "Sitting naked by the window in the middle of the night, I can see you wearing your halo, If only in the daybreak of the dirty streetlight, I know baby wasn't born to follow."

*Simon and Garfunkel: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/baby-driver-lyrics-simon-and-garfunkel.html Baby Driver] - "Theres no one home, were all alone, Oh come to my room and play, Yes we can play! I'm not talking about your pigtails, But I'm talking bout your sex appeal..." [[YA RLY|Yeah, really.]]

*Spinal Tap: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Tonight-I'm-Gonna-Rock-You-Tonight-lyrics-Spinal-Tap/17C816C9E6CC2FDC48256DCE002F5635 Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight] - "You're sweet but you're just four feet and you still got your baby teeth, you're too young and I'm too well hung"

*Steely Dan: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/everyones-gone-to-the-movies-lyrics-steely-dan.html Everyone's Gone to the Movies] - "Kids if you want some fun, See what you never have seen, Take off your cheaters and sit right down, Start the projection machine"

*Steinski: [http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=11246 Lolita] - "''Ordinary, Plumpish, Formless, Cold-skinned... Little girls.''" Who know Pedobear was a pretty awesome DJ too?

*Steppenwolf: [http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/magcca.html Magic Carpet Ride] - "Well, you don't know what we can find, Why don't you come with me little girl, On a magic carpet ride."

*Stone Temple Pilots: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/s/stone+temple+pilots/sex+type+thing_20132550.html Sex Type Thing] - "I'll give ya somethin' that ya won't forget, I said ya shouldn't have worn that dress"

*The Doors: [http://www.actionext.com/names_d/doors_the_lyrics/alabama_song_-_whiskey_bar.html Alabama Song (Whisky Bar)] - "Well show me the way, to the next little girl... Oh don't ask why"

*The Eels: [http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/justmyluck/heymannowyourereallyliving.htm Hey Man] - "Have you ever made love to a beautiful girl? Made you feel like it's not such a bad world? Hey man, now you're really living!"

*The Knack: [http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/realitybites/mysharona.htm My Sharona] - "Never gonna stop, give it up. Such a dirty mind. Always get it up for the touch of the younger kind."

*The Police & Sting - [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/police/dont+stand+so+close+to+me_20110096.html Don't Stand So Close to Me]: "Young teacher, the subject of schoolgirl fantasy, she wants him so badly"

*The Sugarcubes (Björk) - Birthday
::"''It’s a story about a love affair between a five year old girl, a secret, and a man who lives next door. I was always changing my mind about what the lyrics should be about. I had the atmosphere right from the start but not the facts. It finally ended up concentrating on this experience I remembered having as a little girl, among many other little girls’ experiences. It’s like huge men, about 50 [years old] or so, affect little girls very erotically but nothing happens … nothing is done, just this very strong feeling. I picked on this subject to show that anything can affect you erotically; material, a tree, anything.''" - Björk

*Tool:
:*[http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tool/maynardsdick.html Maynard's Dick] - "Would you like to climb on, Climb on my six inches and go down on Maynard's dick"
:*[http://www.toolband.com/album/lyrics/undertow.html Prison Sex] - "(little girl:) I was so young and vestal then, you know it hurt me...I've got my hands bound, my head down, my eyes closed, and my throat wide open. (Pedobear:)My lamb and martyr, you look so precious. Won't you come a bit closer, close enough so I can smell you. I need you to feel this, I can't stand to burn too long. Released in this sodomy. For one sweet moment I am whole...Got your hands bound, your head down, your eyes closed. You look so precious now. I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this shit blood and cum on my hands."
:*[http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Third-Eye-lyrics-Tool/6956417022EE8C2148256A57002C304C Third Eye] - "Came out to watch you play. Why are you running away? ... On my back and tumbling, Down that hole and back again ... in.. out.. in.. out.."

*U2: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooropa Zooropa] / [http://www.u2.com/discography/lyrics/lyric/song/19 Babyface, Babyface] - "Slow down child, let me untie your lace...Bitter-sweet girl, won't you give me a taste..."

*Vehicle: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBMo8xHGNs The Ides of March] - "Hey, well I'm the friendly stranger in the black sedan oh won't you hop inside my car? I got pictures, got candy, I am a lovable man, I'd like to take you to the nearest star. I'm your vehicle baby, I'll take you anywhere you wanna go. I'm your vehicle woman, By now I'm sure you know that I love ya (love you) need ya (need you) I want to, got to have you child Great God in heaven, you know I love you"

*Winger: [http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/w/winger7682/seventeen394211.html Seventeen] - "She's only seventeen, daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me"

*Anal Cunt (AxCx): [https://genius.com/Axcx-yay-its-pink-lyrics Yay! It’s Pink!] - "Looking pretty hot covered with blood and my cum. Only 17, and so fucking dumb"

===Video with music===

*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MPA8dbG3Go Alexandru Bognibov - "I Love The Girls"] - "I love the girls of thirteen years old, Thirteen years old and nothing else, me baby"
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=E_THqHqUXZU Ballet Blue] (and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5wQPdJwHYA another version]) "Baby girl... you better keep your eye on me. I'm not trying to hurt, don't even want to be free. But when I see them walk and I hear them talk, well that's the end of me. They have bumps and curls and I haven't even mentioned their lips. They have wild eyes that make me lie and lips right up to their hips. They're from outer space, they're the fairer race and we all know who's in control. But with a lick of the lips and a swing of the hips, well a man can can lose his soul. Stop it, I like it. Stop it, [[feels good]]. You're so wrong I'm getting excited. Please don't stop, though I know you should."
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWhn0Hc8ps Benny Mardones - "Into the Night"] 1980
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZFreurbf3o remix by Nick Kamen] 1987
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJrqDNBF1Yk remix by Junior Tucker] 1991
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLvjsqbLqM Triple J's remix] Feb 2009 or earlier
:*Harlem Yu's 2009 remix needed
:*Usher did a 2010 remix Making Love (Into the Night) in Raymond vs Raymond
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTW8oUV8Aq0 Bloodhound Gang - "The Bad Touch"] - Pedobear ain't nothin' but a mammal.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdCl0WP5FnI Chuck Berry - "Memphis Tennessee"] - Chuck Berry likes the little girls.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=nPA6vwKIBGQ Dr. Hook & The Medicine Band - "Only Sixteen"] - "She was only sixteen, only sixteen. But I loved her so."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=uF0WdIbt0-s Jethro Tull - ''Aqualung''] - "Sitting on the park bench, eyeing little girls with bad intent.. Watching as the frilly panties run. (I have a painting of the titular character on my wall that my aunt painted in 1972.)"
*Mann Bharrya - "''The little friend story''" (B Praak & Jaani, 2019). The music video tells of the emotional bond formed between a boy and a young man.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=CKl_7zK3fbI Marcy Playground - "Sex and Candy"] - What, you need any moar of an explanation?!
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQFmghga0c Maximum Hormone - "Chu Chu Lovely"] - "A college student would be good. A high school student would be good. A middle school student would be good. An elementary school student would be good. It would be great if they were tantalizing. A kindergartner would be good."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUOdyMn4p4Q Mustard Plug - Lolita] - [http://www.lyricstime.com/mustard-plug-lolita-lyrics.html "Lolita, I wanna meet ya, I wanna take you in my arms and squeeze ya"]
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA Oingo Boingo - "Little Girls"] Nuff said
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=76O6tuJPe3w Ringo Starr - "You're Sixteen"] "You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine. [[Star Wars|CARRIE FISHER]] IS IN THIS VIDEO! [[FAP]] [[Fanboys]] [[FAP]]!
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mn_SzyteePM Rooney - "Daisy Duke"] - "You're too young for me but I can keep a secret. I'm in total control of the situation. Bow down daisy duke.. I'm sorry for cuffing you to my bathtub."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=KHwMGsTftsA Rush - "Digital Man"] - "He's got a force field and a flexible plan, he's got a date with fate in a black sedan, he plays fast forward just as long as he can, but he don't need a bed, he's a digital man."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=2O_M6cH5Bgk Steely Dan - "Everyone's Gone To The Movies"] - "Kids if you want some fun, Mr. LaPage is your man. He's always laughing, having some fun, showing films in his den. Come on, come on. Soon you will be 18, I think you know what I mean. Don't tell your mama, your daddy or mama, they'll never know where you been. Everyone's gone to the movies, now were alone at last."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=D9ebT_jeKoo Sting - "Don't Stand So Close To Me"] - "Inside her, there's longing. This girl's an open page. Book marking - she's so close now. This girl is half his age."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=R89NqQv26PU Three Six Mafia - "Loli Loli"] - "Loli, loli, loli, loli, let me see you park that body."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=BacCAXDLz10 Throw Me The Statue - "Lolita"] - Do I need to explain?
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=WW5VWSnven4 Toy-Box - "Wizard of Oz"] - "I am searching for the magic land. Follow me, my girl. (Okay.) Do you have to touch me with your magic hands? It's part of the ritual. (Hey, hands off, Mister!)"
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=gqU_0xpILIU Yello - "Oh Yeah"] - Watch and believe it.

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Music featuring attraction to minors

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StefiBeaLipton:

__NOTOC__{{Template:Lists}}The music featured in this list is mainly from before 2010, and could benefit from new additions, link cleaning, maintenance and proper dating.

==Songs==

===Only music===

*Aerosmith: [http://www.lyricsdownload.com/deuces-are-wild-aerosmith-lyrics.html "Deuces Are Wild"] - "I been lovin' you since you was a child girl, Cause you an' me is two of a kind"

*Alan Price: [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/randy-newman/simon-smith-and-the-amazing-dancing-bear.html Simon Smith and his Amazing Dancing Bear] (a.k.a. when Pedobear turns into a [[faggot]]) - " "

*All American Rejects: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-wanna-lyrics-all-american-rejects.html "I Wanna"] - "I wanna, I wanna, I wanna touch you, You wanna touch me too, Everyday but all I have is time, Our love's the perfect crime."

*Alizee - Moi... Lolita (Me… Lolita) by singer Alizée then aged 16, in her album Gourmandises. French Lyrics.
::Lolita (Lola) is a first name but also a name synonymous with nymphet. Lolita (following the erotic-tragic novel by Vladimir Nabokov in 1955) is nicknamed the young girl who appeals to mature men, by virtue of her freshness and lightness.

*American Bang: [http://www.elyricsworld.com/we_are_wild_and_young_lyrics_american_bang.html Wild and Young] - "I fell in love with a southern girl" "we are wild and young, we have just begun" "take a deep breathe and make it last! These should be the best days of your life" "there's no reason to run" "slow it down" "what happened to the days of doin what we wanted to do?" "we should kick back just have a little fun to kids gettin high, have a couple beers in the sun" (([[Wrestling|WWE NXT]]) opening [http://www.wwe.com/content/media/video/vms/wwenxt/2010/february8-14/13491168 Video])

*Benny Mardones: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ki-8XuStK0 Into the Night] - "She's just 16 years old, Leave her alone they said......If I could fly I'd pick you up, and take you into the night"

*Bruce Springsteen: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bruce+springsteen/im+on+fire_20025015.html I'm On Fire] - "Hey little girl is your daddy home, did he go away and leave you all alone? I got a bad desire, oh oh oh I'm on fire"

*Cher: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/cher/gypsies+tramps+thieves_20029746.html Gypsies, Tramps & Thieves] - "I picked up a boy just south of mobile, Gave him a ride, filled him with a hot meal, I was thirteen, he was thirty-one"

*Deadsy: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Itty-Bitty-Titty-Girl-Itsy-Bitsy-Titsy-Girl-lyrics-Deadsy/23EF82B656E5B3FE48256BE60008B901.html Itsy Bitsy Titsy Girl] - "Oh, itsy bitsy titsy girl, where are you? Oh, itsy bitsy titsy said our love was true. Oh, my itsy bitsy titsy, so young and so unused. Now, itsy bitsy titsy plays a mean hop-scotch. As she does her little ditty, I can stare at her crotch. Oh, my itsy bitsy titsy, little queen of double dutch..."

*Depeche Mode: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/depeche+mode/a+question+of+time_20039255.html A Question of Time] - "I've got to get to you first, before they do, it's just a question of time, before they lay their hands on you, and make you just like the rest, I've got to get to you first, it's just a question of time... well now you're only fifteen, and you look good, I'll take you under my wing, somebody should"

*Edward Ryan and Glenn Vernon in the film [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042570 Hollywood Varieties] (produced 1949) sing [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfiNT6AKG0s this] before doing a [[BLACK FACE contempo]]: "Pretty little girls: we ask them once, we ask them twice, they make us feel like mice! Why do they say yes when they really mean no? Why do they stop when they really should go? We're under their spell! Why do they squirm? If they keep that up we'll be a wreck! We can't stand this much more, we wish that we could score, with any one of our little girls!"

*Eminem: [http://www.hotlyrics.net/lyrics/E/Eminem/Guilty_Conscience_%5BAcappella%5D.html Guilty Conscience (Acappella)] - "Yo, look at her bush. Does it got hair? (uhuh) Fuck this bitch right on that spot there.'Till she passes out she forgot how she got their.(Man, ain't you ever seen that one movie Kids?) No, but I seen the porno thats on nubiest!(Shit, you wanna get hauled off to jail?)Fuck that, hit that shit raw dawg and bail."

*Faith No More: [http://www.lyricsdownload.com/faith-no-more-edge-of-the-world-410-lyrics.html Edge of the World] - "Hey, little girl, Would you like some candy?.. Come sit right down, Lay your head on my shoulder, It's not the point, That I'm forty years older.. Give me a smile, Let me see those pearlies, I'll do anything, For the little girlies"

*Fleetwood Mac - Beautiful Child

*Gary Puckett and the Union Gap: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn0ZJHVH17I Young Girl] "Young girl, get out of my mind. My love for you is way out of line. Better run girl, you're much too young girl. - With all the charms of a woman, you've kept the secret of your youth. You led me to believe you're old enough to give me love and now it hurts to know the truth. - Beneath your perfume and make-up, you're just a baby in disguise, and though you know that it is wrong to be alone with me that come on look is in your eyes. - So hurry home to your mama, I'm sure she wonders where you are. Get out of here before I have the time to change my mind, 'cause I'm afraid we'll go too far" (See also: [[Bob Saget]] on [[Full House]]). [Note: "While the age of the girl is never revealed in the song, the writer Jerry Fuller said it was based on his own personal experience when certain “14-year-olds look like 20-year-olds”. This piece of information gives the song a more sinister twist as it’s actually about a much older man in love with an underage girl." -Genius Lyrics].

*Gilbert O'Sullivan - Clair
::"''The song is a love song from the point of view of a close family friend who babysits a young girl (actually the artist's manager's daughter), though for the first part of the song, the ambiguous words lead one to think that it is a romantic song from one adult to another. The real Clair was the three-year-old daughter of O'Sullivan's producer-manager. The little girl's giggling is heard at the end of this song.''" - (as per Wikipedia, 2023)

*Grateful Dead: [http://www.lyrics007.com/Grateful%20Dead%20Lyrics/Good%20Morning%20Little%20Schoolgirl%20Lyrics.html Good Morning Little Schoolgirl] - "Good morning little schoolgirl, Can I come home with you? Tell your mama and your papa, I'm a little schoolboy too." [Note: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Morning%2C_School_Girl This song] is very famous, first recorded in 1937 by Blues pioneer John Lee "Sonny Boy" Williamson, and covered by many artists across modern history].

*Guns 'n' Roses: [http://www.lyrics007.com/Guns%20N'%20Roses%20Lyrics/Sweet%20Child%20O'%20Mine%20Lyrics.html Sweet Child O' Mine] - "Sweet child o' mine, sweet love of mine, where do we go now?"

*Heart: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/h/heart/magic+man_20064749.html "Magic Man"] - A little more subtle, but is clearly about a woman remembering losing her virginity to a much older man ("Come on home, girl he said with a smile, I cast my spell of love on you a woman from a child")

*Hour of 13: Missing Girl - "I see her walking all alone / On her way between her school and home / I see her as she passes by / Now I have the chance I´ll make her mine"

*Jethro Tull: [http://www.collecting-tull.com/Albums/Lyrics/Aqualung.html Aqualung] - "Sitting on a park bench eyeing little girls with bad intent. Snot running down his nose greasy fingers smearing shabby clothes. Drying in the cold sun Watching as the frilly panties run."

*Led Zeppelin: The Ocean - "Now I'm singing all my songs to the girl who won my heart. She is only three years old and it's a real fine way to start."

*Lynyrd Skynyrd: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/What's-Your-Name-lyrics-Lynyrd-Skynyrd/F5723A5F65439B45482569EB001390D0 What's Your Name?] - "I done made some plans for later on tonight. I'll find a little queen and I know I can treat her right. What's your name, little girl? What's your name? Shootin' you straight, little girl? Won't you do the same?. The police said we can't drink in the bar, what a shame. Won't you come upstairs girl and have a drink of champagne?"

*Marilyn Manson:
:*''Smells Like Children'' - particularly '[http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/marilyn_manson_lyrics_205/smells_like_children_lyrics_1021/everlasting_cocksucker_remix_lyrics_11619.html Everlasting Cocksucker]' ([[cake]] and [[Buttsecks|sodomy]]) and '[http://www.lyricsmania.com/lyrics/marilyn_manson_lyrics_205/smells_like_children_lyrics_1021/abuse_part_2_confession_lyrics_11622.html Abuse Part 2]'.
:*[http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Wrapped-in-Plastic-lyrics-Marilyn-Manson/39D071225374D602482568C10011E202 Wrapped in Plastic] - "Daddy tells the daughter While mommy's sleeping at night To wash away sin you must take off your skin The righteous father wears the yellowest grin"

*Maximum the Hormone - "''Chu Chu Lovely''" - We all know how those wacky Japs love the [[loli]]/[[shota]]!

*[[Michael Jackson]]'s Thriller - I mean, we all know what thrills him. Amirite?

*Mother of Invention: [http://www.lyricsdepot.com/frank-zappa/motherly-love.html "Motherly Love"] - "Send us up some little groupies and we'll take their hands and rock 'em till they sweat and cry."

*Oingo Boingo:
:*[http://www.lyricsfreak.com/o/oingo+boingo/little+girls_20102778.html Little Girls] - "I love little girls..."
:*[http://www.lyricsdownload.com/oingo-boingo-nothing-to-fear-lyrics.html Nothing to Fear] - "Hey little girl won't you come this way, Wont you let me buy you candy, or perhaps a chocolate shake, Or perhaps some nice cocaine, or perhaps a little kiss, Or perhaps a ride in my big car, Perhaps a ride in my big car, Wont you make an old man happy, Won't you make an old man happy, Wont you let me show you paradise(dont ask your mother for advice)"

*Ozzy Osbourne: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Mr-Tinkertrain-lyrics-Ozzy-Osbourne/9359707830080431482568B7000CBC78 Mr. Tinkertrain] - "Would you like some sweeties little girl? Come a little closer... I'm gonna show you a brand new world tonight! I've got a palace full of fantasy, ready made just for you and me. Once you're there I'm gonna take you for a ride..."

*Ranga Maliyela (Ketaki Mategaonkar and Sharayu Date, 2019). Song produced for the autobiographical movie of India’s first female doctor, [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], who would marry her husband at the age of 9.

*Scala Girls Choir: [http://www.ironcircus.com/Scala_-_I_Touch_Myself.mp3 I Touch Myself] - "I'd get down on my knees, I'd do anything for you. I love myself, I want you to love me..."

*Shawn Colvin: [http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/colvin-shawn/suicide-alley-10539.html Suicide Alley] - "Sitting naked by the window in the middle of the night, I can see you wearing your halo, If only in the daybreak of the dirty streetlight, I know baby wasn't born to follow."

*Simon and Garfunkel: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/baby-driver-lyrics-simon-and-garfunkel.html Baby Driver] - "Theres no one home, were all alone, Oh come to my room and play, Yes we can play! I'm not talking about your pigtails, But I'm talking bout your sex appeal..." [[YA RLY|Yeah, really.]]

*Spinal Tap: [http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Tonight-I'm-Gonna-Rock-You-Tonight-lyrics-Spinal-Tap/17C816C9E6CC2FDC48256DCE002F5635 Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight] - "You're sweet but you're just four feet and you still got your baby teeth, you're too young and I'm too well hung"

*Steely Dan: [http://www.metrolyrics.com/everyones-gone-to-the-movies-lyrics-steely-dan.html Everyone's Gone to the Movies] - "Kids if you want some fun, See what you never have seen, Take off your cheaters and sit right down, Start the projection machine"

*Steinski: [http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=11246 Lolita] - "''Ordinary, Plumpish, Formless, Cold-skinned... Little girls.''" Who know Pedobear was a pretty awesome DJ too?

*Steppenwolf: [http://www.steppenwolf.com/lyr/magcca.html Magic Carpet Ride] - "Well, you don't know what we can find, Why don't you come with me little girl, On a magic carpet ride."

*Stone Temple Pilots: [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/s/stone+temple+pilots/sex+type+thing_20132550.html Sex Type Thing] - "I'll give ya somethin' that ya won't forget, I said ya shouldn't have worn that dress"

*The Doors: [http://www.actionext.com/names_d/doors_the_lyrics/alabama_song_-_whiskey_bar.html Alabama Song (Whisky Bar)] - "Well show me the way, to the next little girl... Oh don't ask why"

*The Eels: [http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/justmyluck/heymannowyourereallyliving.htm Hey Man] - "Have you ever made love to a beautiful girl? Made you feel like it's not such a bad world? Hey man, now you're really living!"

*The Knack: [http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/realitybites/mysharona.htm My Sharona] - "Never gonna stop, give it up. Such a dirty mind. Always get it up for the touch of the younger kind."

*The Police & Sting - [http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/police/dont+stand+so+close+to+me_20110096.html Don't Stand So Close to Me]: "Young teacher, the subject of schoolgirl fantasy, she wants him so badly"

*The Sugarcubes (Björk) - Birthday
::"''It’s a story about a love affair between a five year old girl, a secret, and a man who lives next door. I was always changing my mind about what the lyrics should be about. I had the atmosphere right from the start but not the facts. It finally ended up concentrating on this experience I remembered having as a little girl, among many other little girls’ experiences. It’s like huge men, about 50 [years old] or so, affect little girls very erotically but nothing happens … nothing is done, just this very strong feeling. I picked on this subject to show that anything can affect you erotically; material, a tree, anything.''" - Björk

*Tool:
:*[http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/tool/maynardsdick.html Maynard's Dick] - "Would you like to climb on, Climb on my six inches and go down on Maynard's dick"
:*[http://www.toolband.com/album/lyrics/undertow.html Prison Sex] - "(little girl:) I was so young and vestal then, you know it hurt me...I've got my hands bound, my head down, my eyes closed, and my throat wide open. (Pedobear:)My lamb and martyr, you look so precious. Won't you come a bit closer, close enough so I can smell you. I need you to feel this, I can't stand to burn too long. Released in this sodomy. For one sweet moment I am whole...Got your hands bound, your head down, your eyes closed. You look so precious now. I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this shit blood and cum on my hands."
:*[http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Third-Eye-lyrics-Tool/6956417022EE8C2148256A57002C304C Third Eye] - "Came out to watch you play. Why are you running away? ... On my back and tumbling, Down that hole and back again ... in.. out.. in.. out.."

*U2: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooropa Zooropa] / [http://www.u2.com/discography/lyrics/lyric/song/19 Babyface, Babyface] - "Slow down child, let me untie your lace...Bitter-sweet girl, won't you give me a taste..."

*Vehicle: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBMo8xHGNs The Ides of March] - "Hey, well I'm the friendly stranger in the black sedan oh won't you hop inside my car? I got pictures, got candy, I am a lovable man, I'd like to take you to the nearest star. I'm your vehicle baby, I'll take you anywhere you wanna go. I'm your vehicle woman, By now I'm sure you know that I love ya (love you) need ya (need you) I want to, got to have you child Great God in heaven, you know I love you"

*Winger: [http://www.stlyrics.com/songs/w/winger7682/seventeen394211.html Seventeen] - "She's only seventeen, daddy says she's too young, but she's old enough for me"

*Anal Cunt (AxCx): [https://genius.com/Axcx-yay-its-pink-lyrics Yay! It’s Pink!] - ,,Looking pretty hot covered with blood and my cum. Only 17, and so fucking dumb"

===Video with music===

*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=8MPA8dbG3Go Alexandru Bognibov - "I Love The Girls"] - "I love the girls of thirteen years old, Thirteen years old and nothing else, me baby"
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=E_THqHqUXZU Ballet Blue] (and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5wQPdJwHYA another version]) "Baby girl... you better keep your eye on me. I'm not trying to hurt, don't even want to be free. But when I see them walk and I hear them talk, well that's the end of me. They have bumps and curls and I haven't even mentioned their lips. They have wild eyes that make me lie and lips right up to their hips. They're from outer space, they're the fairer race and we all know who's in control. But with a lick of the lips and a swing of the hips, well a man can can lose his soul. Stop it, I like it. Stop it, [[feels good]]. You're so wrong I'm getting excited. Please don't stop, though I know you should."
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aWhn0Hc8ps Benny Mardones - "Into the Night"] 1980
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZFreurbf3o remix by Nick Kamen] 1987
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJrqDNBF1Yk remix by Junior Tucker] 1991
:*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLvjsqbLqM Triple J's remix] Feb 2009 or earlier
:*Harlem Yu's 2009 remix needed
:*Usher did a 2010 remix Making Love (Into the Night) in Raymond vs Raymond
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTW8oUV8Aq0 Bloodhound Gang - "The Bad Touch"] - Pedobear ain't nothin' but a mammal.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=GdCl0WP5FnI Chuck Berry - "Memphis Tennessee"] - Chuck Berry likes the little girls.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=nPA6vwKIBGQ Dr. Hook & The Medicine Band - "Only Sixteen"] - "She was only sixteen, only sixteen. But I loved her so."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=uF0WdIbt0-s Jethro Tull - ''Aqualung''] - "Sitting on the park bench, eyeing little girls with bad intent.. Watching as the frilly panties run. (I have a painting of the titular character on my wall that my aunt painted in 1972.)"
*Mann Bharrya - "''The little friend story''" (B Praak & Jaani, 2019). The music video tells of the emotional bond formed between a boy and a young man.
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=CKl_7zK3fbI Marcy Playground - "Sex and Candy"] - What, you need any moar of an explanation?!
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwQFmghga0c Maximum Hormone - "Chu Chu Lovely"] - "A college student would be good. A high school student would be good. A middle school student would be good. An elementary school student would be good. It would be great if they were tantalizing. A kindergartner would be good."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=hUOdyMn4p4Q Mustard Plug - Lolita] - [http://www.lyricstime.com/mustard-plug-lolita-lyrics.html "Lolita, I wanna meet ya, I wanna take you in my arms and squeeze ya"]
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA Oingo Boingo - "Little Girls"] Nuff said
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=76O6tuJPe3w Ringo Starr - "You're Sixteen"] "You're sixteen, you're beautiful and you're mine. [[Star Wars|CARRIE FISHER]] IS IN THIS VIDEO! [[FAP]] [[Fanboys]] [[FAP]]!
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=Mn_SzyteePM Rooney - "Daisy Duke"] - "You're too young for me but I can keep a secret. I'm in total control of the situation. Bow down daisy duke.. I'm sorry for cuffing you to my bathtub."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=KHwMGsTftsA Rush - "Digital Man"] - "He's got a force field and a flexible plan, he's got a date with fate in a black sedan, he plays fast forward just as long as he can, but he don't need a bed, he's a digital man."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=2O_M6cH5Bgk Steely Dan - "Everyone's Gone To The Movies"] - "Kids if you want some fun, Mr. LaPage is your man. He's always laughing, having some fun, showing films in his den. Come on, come on. Soon you will be 18, I think you know what I mean. Don't tell your mama, your daddy or mama, they'll never know where you been. Everyone's gone to the movies, now were alone at last."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=D9ebT_jeKoo Sting - "Don't Stand So Close To Me"] - "Inside her, there's longing. This girl's an open page. Book marking - she's so close now. This girl is half his age."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=R89NqQv26PU Three Six Mafia - "Loli Loli"] - "Loli, loli, loli, loli, let me see you park that body."
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=BacCAXDLz10 Throw Me The Statue - "Lolita"] - Do I need to explain?
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=WW5VWSnven4 Toy-Box - "Wizard of Oz"] - "I am searching for the magic land. Follow me, my girl. (Okay.) Do you have to touch me with your magic hands? It's part of the ritual. (Hey, hands off, Mister!)"
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=gqU_0xpILIU Yello - "Oh Yeah"] - Watch and believe it.

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StefiBeaLipton: Created page with "Children of the future age, Reading this indignant page, Know that in a former time Love, sweet love, was thought a crime. In the age of gold, Free from winter’s cold, Youth and maiden bright, To the holy light, Naked in the sunny beams delight. Once a youthful pair, Filled with softest care, Met in garden bright Where the holy light Had just removed the curtains of the night. Then, in rising day, On the grass they play; Parents were afar, Strangers came not near, A..."

Children of the future age,
Reading this indignant page,
Know that in a former time
Love, sweet love, was thought a crime.

In the age of gold,
Free from winter’s cold,
Youth and maiden bright,
To the holy light,
Naked in the sunny beams delight.

Once a youthful pair,
Filled with softest care,
Met in garden bright
Where the holy light
Had just removed the curtains of the night.

Then, in rising day,
On the grass they play;
Parents were afar,
Strangers came not near,
And the maiden soon forgot her fear.

Tired with kisses sweet,
They agree to meet
When the silent sleep
Waves o’er heaven’s deep,
And the weary tired wanderers weep.

To her father white
Came the maiden bright;
But his loving look,
Like the holy book
All her tender limbs with terror shook.

‘‘Ona, pale and weak,
To thy father speak!
Oh the trembling fear!
Oh the dismal care
That shakes the blossoms of my hoary hair!’’

Chronophilia

2024-02-23T15:39:06Z

StefiBeaLipton:

__NOTOC__[[File:The Ill-Matched Couple Lucas Cranach the Elder.jpg|thumb|200px|"Ill-Matched Couple: Young Man and Old Woman" by [[Wikipedia:Lucas Cranach the Elder|Lucas Cranach the Elder]], c. 1520]]
'''"Chronophilia"''' is defined as a type of sexual interest or preference for individuals of a particular age.<ref name="Mokros_2017">Mokros, A. (Jan, 2017). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-016-0882-4 The Chronophilia Conundrum: Continuum or Epiphenomenon?] ''Archives of Sexual Behavior'', volume 46, issue 1, pages 43–45, pmid 27778133, doi 10.1007/s10508-016-0882-4, s2cid 254250686</ref>

"Chronophilias" related to ''[[minor]]s'' are [[nepiophilia]] (attraction toward infants), [[pedophilia]] (prepubescent children), [[hebephilia]] (pubescent youth) and [[ephebophilia]] (late teens). Chronophilias related to ''adults'' are mesophilia and [[wikipedia:gerontophilia|gerontophilia]]. The only supposedly "typical" form of "chronophilia" is [[teleiophilia]] (attraction toward young adults).<ref name="Seto">[[Michael Seto|Seto, M.]] [http://theconversation.com/what-are-chronophilias-88074 What are chronophilias?] [[Wikipedia:The Conversation (website)|The Conversation]]</ref><ref>Singal, J. (2016). [https://www.thecut.com/2016/08/liking-middle-aged-people-is-probably-a-sexual-orientation.html Being Into Middle-Aged People Is Probably a Sexual Orientation] [[Wikipedia:The Cut (website)|The Cut]]</ref>

Each "chronophilia" is associated with a stage of the [[Wikipedia:Tanner scale|Tanner scale]] of human sexual development, which ranges from stages one to five. Hebephilia, however, corresponds to both stages 2 and 3. All "chronophilias" related to adults correspond to stage 5 of the scale.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

Concomitant with the above, Chronophilic sexual labels (to the extent they are used) do not technically relate to age itself, but to preferences for human sexual maturity stages, connoting features such as body type, muscle development, and secondary sexual characteristics.<ref name="Seto_2017">[[Michael Seto|Seto, MC]]. (January 2017). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-016-0799-y The Puzzle of Male Chronophilias] ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', volume 46, issue 1, pages 3–22, pmid 27549306, doi 10.1007/s10508-016-0799-y, s2cid 254256051</ref> This is one of the reasons why embracing chronophilic labels, or treating them as discrete or discontinuous natural taxa, is a controversial idea among [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]].

== Etymology ==
The term ''chronophilia'' (''chrono'' (time) + ''philia'' (love)) was coined by psychologist and sexologist [[John Money]] to describe a form of "[[paraphilia]]" in which an individual experiences sexual attraction limited to individuals of particular age ranges.<ref>[[John Money|Money, J.]] (1986). ''Lovemaps: clinical concepts of sexual/erotic health and pathology, paraphilia, and gender transposition of childhood, adolescence, and maturity''. isbn 978-0-8290-1589-8, pages 70, 260</ref><ref>[[John Money|Money, J.]] (1990). [https://archive.org/details/gaystraightinbet0000mone Gay, Straight, and In-Between: The Sexology of Erotic Orientation]. isbn 978-0-19-505407-1, pages [https://archive.org/details/gaystraightinbet0000mone/page/137 137], 183</ref>

An arguable historical precursor was [[Wikipedia:Richard von Krafft-Ebing|Krafft-Ebing]]'s concept of "age fetishism".<ref name="janssen">[[Diederik Janssen|Janssen, DF.]] (2015). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1017/mdh.2015.47 'Chronophilia': Entries of Erotic Age Preference into Descriptive Psychopathology.] ''Medical History'', volume 59, issue 4, pages 575–598, pmid 26352305, pmc 4595948, doi 10.1017/mdh.2015.47</ref>

== Background ==
[[File:Karl Heinrich Ulrichs (from Kennedy).jpg|thumb|200px|Karl Ulrichs is believed to be the first theorist of erotic age preferences, having written about the topic in the 1860's.<ref name="Janssen_2017" />]]
Most inclinations described as "chronophilias" are scarcely researched, especially ''mesophilia'' and ''gerontophilia''. The existing body of research on the topic is also mainly focused on men. Chronophilias related to sexual attractions to minors (such as [[pedophilia]] and [[hebephilia]]), however, have a significantly larger body of modern scientific research compared to the others.<ref name="Seto" />

Age-based sexual attractions have been a topic of scientific study for over 150 years, [[Wikipedia:Karl Heinrich Ulrichs|Ulrichs]] arguably being the first theorist of the field. However, after the mid 1980's there was a cultural and global [[Medicalism|medicalization]] of the topic, as well as an intimidation of scholarly inquiries regarding this subject that escaped the field of [[Wikipedia:Forensic psychology|forensics]].<ref name="Janssen_2017" />

Much of the scientific knowledge of non-teleiophilic "chronophilias" in fact derives from forensic and [[Wikipedia:Corrections|correctional]] samples. And non-teleiophilic, criminal offenders are most certainly not representative of the whole population of non-teleiophilic people.<ref name="Mokros_2017" />

== Classification ==
[[File:Tanner scale-female.svg.png|thumb|200px|The [[Wikipedia:Tanner scale|Tanner scale]], showing stages one to five for human females.]]Each "chonophilia" is related to a stage of the Tanner scale, which is a model that describes the evolution of visible primary and secondary sexual characteristics of human beings from childhood to adulthood. Though physical features are important for eliciting "chronophilic" sexual arousal, psychological features may also play a role in it. Pedophile males, for example, have reported "[[Childhood Innocence|innocence]]" and "playfulness" as part of what they find attractive in children.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

There is presently [[Debate Guide: Corresponding age attraction|no evidence]] that age preferences among men vary as they themselves age, although some surveys of mature women suggest that the average age of their preferred long-term partner increases with theirs.<ref>[https://www.businessinsider.com/dataclysm-shows-men-are-attracted-to-women-in-their-20s-2014-10?international=true&r=US&IR=T CHARTS: Guys Like Women In Their Early 20s Regardless Of How Old They Get - Business Insider]</ref> "Chronophilias" may begin to manifest in the ages associated with [[Wikipedia:menarche|menarche]] and [[Wikipedia:puberty|puberty]], as is the case for pedophilia and possibly other chronophilias.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

It is also said to be possible for human beings to have more than one "chronophilia".<ref name="Seto_2017" /><ref name="BeierDisorder" /> People who are pedophiles and hebephiles at the same time may be called [[Wikipedia:Pedohebephilia|pedohebephiles]].<ref>[[Sara Jahnke|Jahnke, Sara]] et al (2023). [https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/10790632221098341 Pedohebephilia and Perceived Non-coercive Childhood Sexual Experiences: Two Non-matched Case-Control Studies]. ''Sexual Abuse'', volume 35, issue 3, pages 340 374, doi 10.1177/10790632221098341, issn 1079-0632, pmc 10041574, pmid 35549946</ref>

==Chronophilias related to minors==
[[File:Warren Cup BM GR 1999.4-26.1 n2.jpg|left|thumb|200px|The [[Wikipedia:Warren Cup|Warren Cup]] depicting an older man having sexual intercourse with an adolescent boy]]
The term ''[[Minor Attracted Person|minor-attraction]]'' has been used as an umbrella term to classify chronophilias related to minors. Under this terminology, a person who is attracted to minors would be called a ''minor-attracted person'' (MAP).<ref name="Lievesley_2022">Lievesley R, Lapworth R. (February 2022). [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-021-02160-z "We Do Exist": The Experiences of Women Living with a Sexual Interest in Minors]. ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', volume 51, issue 2, pages 879–896, doi 10.1007/s10508-021-02160-z, pmc 8888496, pmid 34791582</ref><ref name=":0">Lievesley et al (2022). [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-021-02271-7 Primary Health Professionals' Beliefs, Experiences, and Willingness to Treat Minor-Attracted Persons]. ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', volume 51, issue 2, pages 923–943, doi 10.1007/s10508-021-02271-7, issn 1573-2800, pmc 8793822, pmid 35084616</ref> The usage of this term in scientific articles started growing after 2017.<ref>[[Sara Jahnke|Jahnke, Sara]] et al (2022). [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-022-02331-6 Pedophile, Child Lover, or Minor-Attracted Person? Attitudes Toward Labels Among People Who are Sexually Attracted to Children]. ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', volume 51, issue 8, pages 4125–4139, doi 10.1007/s10508-022-02331-6, issn 0004-0002, pmc 9663395, pmid 36175817</ref> It is controversial among academics whether ephebophiles should be considered minor-attracted.<ref name=":0" /><ref name="Lievesley_2022" />

Similarly to other sexual groups, people who are attracted to minors often become aware of their sexual preference during adolescence.<ref name=":2">[[Allyn Walker|Walker, Allyson]] and Panfil, Vanessa R. (2017). [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10612-016-9342-7 Minor Attraction: A Queer Criminological Issue]. ''Critical Criminology'' volume 25, issue 1, pages 37–53, doi 10.1007/s10612-016-9342-7, s2cid 254419401, issn 1572-9877</ref>

=== Nepiophilia ===
[[Nepiophilia]] (sometimes called ''infantophilia'') is defined as a form of sexual preference for infants up to the age of 2 or 3. This age range corresponds to the [[Tanner scale|Tanner stage]] 1.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

Very little is known about nepiophilia. It, along with gerontophilia, is expected to be one of the rarest "chronophilias" that exist.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

=== Pedophilia ===
[[Pedophilia]] is a "chronophilia" whose pattern of attraction is towards [[Wikipedia:prepubescent|prepubescent]] minors ([[child]]ren) from the ages of 3 to 10 (sometimes set as high as 11, or 12). This age range also corresponds to Tanner stage 1.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

Pedophilia is the best-researched chronophilia. It has been estimated in the [[DSM]] that the prevalence of pedophilia among the general male population could be as high as 5%. Pedophilia is more common among men than women, which is the case with most interests defined as [[paraphilia]]s (except for [[Wikipedia:Sadomasochism|masochism]] and objectophilia, among others).<ref name="Seto_2017" />

According to the fifth edition of the [[Wikipedia:Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders|DSM]], pedophilia is a [[paraphilia]] in which a person has intense sexual "urges" towards children, and experiences recurrent sexual "urges" towards and [[Wikipedia:fantasy (psychology)|fantasies]] about children. ''Pedophilic disorder'' is further defined as a psychological disorder in which a person meets the criteria for pedophilia above, and also either acts upon those urges, or else experiences distress or interpersonal difficulty as a consequence.<ref>American Psychiatric Association (2013). [http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/changes%20from%20dsm-iv-tr%20to%20dsm-5.pdf ''Highlights of Changes from DSM-IV-TR to DSM-5'']. [https://web.archive.org/web/20131019204551/http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/changes%20from%20dsm-iv-tr%20to%20dsm-5.pdf Archived]. Paraphilic disorders (page 18)</ref><ref name="dsm4">American Psychiatric Association (2000). [http://www.psychiatryonline.com/resourceTOC.aspx?resourceID=1 Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV TR (Text Revision)]. Vol 1, isbn 978-0-89042-024-9, doi 10.1176/appi.books.9780890423349, page 943. [https://web.archive.org/web/20111025012701/http://www.psychiatryonline.com/resourceTOC.aspx?resourceID=1 Archived.]</ref>

=== Hebephilia ===
[[File:Jupiter küsst Ganymed (nach Wilhelm Böttner).jpg|thumb|200px|"[[Wikipedia:Jupiter (mythology)|Jupiter]] Kissing [[Wikipedia: Ganymede (mythology)|Ganymede]]" by <bdi>Wilhelm Böttner</bdi>, c. 1780]]
Hebephilia is defined as a form of sexual attraction toward pubescent persons, from ages 11 to 14. This age range corresponds to Tanner stages 2 and 3.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

The term ''hebephilia'' was introduced by [[Wikipedia:Bernard Glueck Jr.|Bernard Glueck]] in 1955.<ref>Glueck Jr BC, 1955. Research project for the study and treatment of persons convicted of crimes involving sexual aberrations. New York State Department of Mental Hygiene</ref> It has also been attributed to psychiatrist Paul K. Benedict.<ref name="Janssen_2017">[[Diederik Janssen|Janssen DF]] (2017). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-016-0883-3 "Chronophilia": Appreciating 150 Years of Puzzle-Solving]. ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', vol 46, issue 1, pages 35–38, pmid 27796605, doi 10.1007/s10508-016-0883-3, s2cid 254264932</ref>

Despite being socially sanctioned in many modern [[Wikipedia:Western world|Western]] societies, hebephilia is not an uncommon form of age-based sexual preference.<ref name="Seto_2017" /> Hebephilia has not been included as a diagnostic category in the DSM 5.<ref name="BeierDisorder">[[Klaus Beier|Beier, K. M.]] et al (2015). [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25723776/ Hebephilia as a sexual disorder]. ''Fortschritte der Neurologie-Psychiatrie'', vol 83, issue 2, pages 1–9, doi 10.1055/s-0034-1398960, issn 1439-3522, pmid 25723776</ref>

=== Ephebophilia ===
"[[Ephebophilia]]" is defined as a pattern of sexual attraction toward post-pubescent youths,<ref name="Blanchard2008">Blanchard, R., Lykins, A. D., Wherrett, D., Kuban, M. E., Cantor, J. M., Blak, T., Dickey, R., & Klassen, P. E. (2008). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-008-9399-9 Pedophilia, hebephilia, and the DSM–V.] ''Archives of Sexual Behavior.'' doi 10.1007/s10508-008-9399-9.</ref> from the age of 15 to 17,<ref name="Seto_2017" /> and in some instances 19. This age range is sometimes said to correspond to Tanner stage 4,<ref name="Seto_2017" /> but this appears to be doubtful.<ref>[https://vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu/decreasing-age-puberty/ "The decreasing age of puberty".] Texas A&M Health Science Center. 10 January 2018.</ref>

Ephebophilia is generally considered a so-called "[[Wikipedia:Sexual norm|normophilia]]".<ref name=":3">Hames, Raymond and [[Ray Blanchard|Blanchard, Ray]] (2012). [https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-012-9972-0 Anthropological Data Regarding the Adaptiveness of Hebephilia]. ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', volume 41, issue 4, pages 745–747, doi 10.1007/s10508-012-9972-0, pmid 22644593, s2cid 254261711, issn 1573-2800</ref>

== Chronophilias related to adults ==
=== Teleiophilia ===
[[File:Jan van Beers - Love-match.jpg|left|thumb|200px|"Love match" by [[Wikipedia:Jan van Beers (artist)|Jan van Beers]], before 1927]][[Teleiophilia]] (from Greek ''téleios'', "full grown") is defined as a sexual preference for younger adults (20s and 30s).<ref>[[Ray Blanchard|Blanchard R]] et al (2000). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1023/A:1001943719964 Fraternal birth order and sexual orientation in pedophiles]. ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', volume 29, issue 5, pages 463–478, pmid 10983250, doi 10.1023/A:1001943719964, s2cid 19755751</ref> The term was coined by [[Wikipedia:Ray Blanchard|Blanchard]] in 2000 and has seen less public adoption than some newer terms.<ref>Blanchard R, Barbaree HE (2005). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1177/107906320501700407 The strength of sexual arousal as a function of the age of the sex offender: comparisons among pedophiles, hebephiles, and teleiophiles]. ''Sexual Abuse'', volume 17, issue 4, pages 441–456, pmid 16341604, doi 10.1177/107906320501700407, s2cid 220355347</ref>

Most human beings are said to be "teleiophilic". This "chronophilia", like all chronophilias related to adults, is associated to Tanner stage 5.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

=== Mesophilia ===
Mesophilia (derived from the Greek "mesos", "intermediate") is a sexual preference for middle-aged adults (40s and 50s). The term was coined by [[Michael Seto]] in 2016.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

=== Gerontophilia ===
[[File:Anonymous Elderly couple sitting on a sofa.jpg|thumb|200px|"Elderly couple sitting on a sofa" by an unknown author, 1790-1810]]
Gerontophilia is sometimes defined as a sexual preference for the elderly (60s and older).<ref>Kaul A, Duffy S (1991). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1177/002580249103100204 Gerontophilia - a case report.] ''Medicine, Science, and the Law'', volume 31, issue 2, pages 110–114, pmid 2062191, doi 10.1177/002580249103100204, s2cid 6455643</ref>

== Nonexclusive age interests ==
Some individuals can, unsurprisingly, be classified as having "more than one chronophilia". And the concept of nonexclusivity can also cover nonadjacent age categories as well. Some men, for example, are equally attracted to both children and adults, just like other men are attracted to males and females.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

In a study by the [[preventionism|preventionist]] [[Wikipedia:Prevention Project Dunkelfeld|Dunkelfeld Project]], 39 out of 215 pedophilic individuals and 59% of hebephilic participants identified themselves as nonexclusive.<ref name="Seto_2017" /> A study from 2016 found that pedohebephilic women tend to be more nonexclusive than men.<ref name="Bailey_2017">[[Michael Bailey|Bailey JM]], Hsu KJ (2017). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-016-0885-1 Orienting Basic Research on Chronophilias] ''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'', volume 46, issue 1, pages 23–26, pmid 27815643, doi 10.1007/s10508-016-0885-1, s2cid 254266621</ref>

According to research from Dunkelfeld, possible chronophilic overlaps include the following:<ref name="BeierDisorder" />

* pedo-hebephilia: pedophilia + hebephilia;
* pedo-teleiophilia: pedophilia + teleiophilia;
* hebe-teleiophilia: hebephilia + teleiophilia;
* pedo-hebe-teleiophilia: pedophilia + hebephilia + teleiophilia;

As can be seen, the possibilities abound.

== Among women ==
It is widely believed among academics that fewer women than men have non-teleiophilic preferences.<ref>Vásquez-Amézquita M, et al (2023). [https://academic.oup.com/fsr/advance-article-pdf/doi/10.1093/fsr/owad009/49623118/owad009.pdf What can the eyes tell us about atypical sexual preferences as a function of sex and age? Linking eye movements with child-related chronophilias.] ''Forensic Sciences Research'', doi 10.1093/fsr/owad009</ref><ref name="Seto_2017" /> The overwhelming preponderance of men among people sexually attracted to minors is consistent with a general tendency of men being "paraphiles".<ref name="Bailey_2017" />

In a survey conducted on 1,300 participants who had some form of attraction toward minors, only 5% of the respondents identified as female.<ref name="Bailey_2017" /> It has also been reported that women who had some sort of minor-attraction were more likely to have adult-oriented sexual behaviors, which is consistent with the broader sexuality literature that women are more [[Wikipedia:Sexual fluidity|sexually fluid]] than men.<ref name="Lievesley_2022" />

Minor-attracted women have reported feeling further isolated and excluded than men due to their gender. In an interview for a scientific study on women who are attracted to minors, some participants reported feeling as "a minority within a minority".<ref name="Lievesley_2022" />

== In popular culture ==

The prevalence of mesophilia in society is hinted at by the relative popularity of the slang ''[[Wikipedia:MILF|MILF]]'' (which stands for "Mom I would Like to Fuck"), as well as the derived acronym ''DILF''. Results from an online survey about paraphilic sexual interests suggest that 34% of women and 48% of men have reported sexual fantasies about older partners.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

The term ''pedophile'' is understood differently in academic and popular languages. While academics use this word to refer to people who are sexually attracted to prepubescent children, colloquially, the term often refers to anyone who carries out a sexual act with an adolescent or child. In ''popular'' criminology and crime fiction, the word pedophile is used as a generic term to describe a broad array of sexual relationships involving minors.<ref name=":4">Kohm, Steven A. and Greenhill, Pauline (2011) [http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1362480610388974 Pedophile crime films as popular criminology: A problem of justice?] ''Theoretical Criminology'', volume 15, issue 2, pages 195–215, doi 10.1177/1362480610388974, s2cid 145184316, issn 1362-4806</ref>

Cinematic depictions of pedophiles, in the ''popular'' definition, include Hans Becker from [[Wikipedia:M (1931 film)|M]] (1931 movie) and the protagonist of [[Wikipedia:The Mark (1961 film)|The Mark]] (1961), both of whom are portrayed as criminals.<ref name=":4" />

== Society and stigma ==
[[File:Graffiti Poznan Pedofilia.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Pedophobia|Anti-pedophilia]] graffiti in [[Poznań]], Poland]]
Teleiophilia is identified as the "most common chronophilia" among human beings.<ref name="Seto_2017" /> Ephebophilia is generally considered a "normophilia".<ref name=":3" /> Chronophilias related to minors, on the other hand, are associated with higher social [[Research: The Dangers of Stigma|stigma]]. Research has shown that though some minor-attracted persons may receive positive social support after disclosing their attractions, others may encounter negative reactions such as threats, loss of friendships and increased levels of stress, even if they had committed no criminal offenses. In two joint studies about the topic, 38% and 49% of participants stated that minor-attracted persons who had not committed a crime should be nonetheless incarcerated, and 14 and 27% believed they would be better off dead.<ref name=":2" />

Individuals who are attracted to minors might also suffer from internalized stigma against their own sexual impulses.<ref>{{Cite journal |last=Lievesley |first=Rebecca |last2=Harper |first2=Craig A. |last3=Elliott |first3=Helen |year=2020-05-01 |title=[https://doi.org/10.1007/s10508-019-01569-x The Internalization of Social Stigma Among Minor-Attracted Persons: Implications for Treatment] |journal=''[[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]'' |language=en |volume=49 |issue=4 |pages=1291–1304 |doi=10.1007/s10508-019-01569-x |issn=1573-2800 |pmc=7145785 |pmid=31925747}}</ref>

Though there are often no restrictions on consensual depictions of adults in pornographic media, [[Child Pornography|erotic pornographic material involving minors]] is generally illegal.<ref name="Seto_2017" />

==Gallery==

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File:Chronophilic_age_graph.png|Continuous distribution of the male chronophilic population divided by age of interest.
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== See also ==

*[[Age of attraction]] - A concept more often used by MAPs as opposed to those attempting to classify them.
*[[Paraphilia]]
*[[Pederasty]]
*[[Research: The Dangers of Stigma]]
*[[Minor Attracted Person]]

==Wikipedia==

*[[Wikipedia:Age disparity in sexual relationships|Age disparity in sexual relationships]]
*[[Wikipedia:MILF|MILF (slang)]]
*[[Wikipedia:List of paraphilias|List of paraphilias]]

== References ==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: Academic]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Research]][[Category:Research on Minor Attraction]][[Category:History & Events: 2000s]][[Category:History & Events: 1980s]][[Category:Mental Health Industry]]

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This is an organized, ethnological study of [[Wikipedia:Internet meme|memes]] by, and about [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]] from various political and apolitical perspectives. While this archive is considered largely complete, we will [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|consider exceptional and notable examples]] for inclusion.

In addition to the informational memes on this page, [[research]] graphics can be found at [[Index of Excerpt Gallery Libraries|this index]], or on their respective research pages.

'''Traditional memes have search tags; press control+F on your keyboard and type in a search term.'''

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Memes, graphics and artwork are presented here for discussion, deliberation and modification. We do not endorse any meme, and have tried to reflect the breadth of material on our subject - some of which may confront conservative stereotypes of the MAP Movement as a project solely of the political left. The [[Newgon|organizational]] logo may be present on material designed or not designed by its members, or members of spin-off groups, as per our [[Ethos of Newgon|ethos]]. Some memes mobilize and redeploy narratives usually deemed hostile to [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]], since they are designed for use in explicitly hostile venues. Material reproduced here is therefore not to be confused with [[Newgon]]'s editorial.

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==The MAP Flag==
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The concept underlying the [[MAP Flag]] was seen as early as 2009 and it resurfaced (or was spontaneously recoined) in 2018, gathering widespread social media attention after a campaign by [[NOMAP]]s on Tumblr. It was conservatively redesigned here in 2021.

===Originals===

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File:Yapf2.png|2023 [[Youth Attracted Person|YAP]] Flag
File:MAPflagunitedlarge.svg|2021 MAP Flag presented without anti-alias (i.e. for making an actual flag)
File:Mapflag2018.svg|2018 post-publicity "MAP Flag" - i.e. original Stenna "[[NOMAP]] Flag"
File:Gradient.jpeg|2009 Newgon "Gradient" Flag by Philist: First known use of this, or a related concept
</Gallery>

===MAP Flag variations and memes===

:''See [https://booru.youjo.love/post/list/map_flag/1 Youjo:MAP Flag] for more material''

The MAP Flag has already been used in numerous good-faith social media profiles of MAPs, but also by activists in campaigns that deliberately troll opponents, both in favor of, and in antagonism against MAPs.

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File:Mapmane.png|MAP Maned Lion (Bolt)
File:Revolution.jpg|Revolution, inc MAP Flag - [[Katie Cruz]]. Find this and more graphics at [https://mirror.amapin.love/ The Mirror Project].
File:Fist2.png|Similar fist with blended flag colors - Matthewyoung ([[:Image:Fist2.png|alternative version by Katie Cruz inside]])
File:Resistance.png|Resistance - Cailín Leannán (based on imagery from Irish troubles)
File:Flag.png|Raising the MAP Flag
File:Beeflag.png|Similar, modified by beefriend
File:Mapflag160.jpg|Banksy-style MAP Flag in baloon
File:Masoniccomunist.jpg|The '''M'''asonic '''A'''narcho-communist '''P'''edo Flag (or DDR MAP Flag by Yutlibnow)
File:Libedit.png|MAP Gadsden Flag - Beefriend
Image:FCncb9dWUAMBHOW.png|Pedophile Lives Matter by Strategist
Image:MAPsBased.png|<nowiki>#MAPsAreBased</nowiki> - Strategist
1500x500.jpg|Semi-discreet header background in NOMAP orientation
File:Flagbann.png|Header bg based on flag (Rin)
File:Flower-arch-head.png|Flower Arch Header - beefriend
File:Anglomap flag2.png|AngloNOMAP Flag by Rin ([[:Image:Anglomap flag2.png|alternative AngloMAP version inside]])
File:Bg1.png|Background/desktop
File:Bg2.png|Background/desktop
File:Flagbg2.png|Very subtle bg by beefriend
File:Flagmf.png|Graphic with jumping young people (Mythebe, FST, originally attached to [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/191Z essay])
File:Mapring.png|Transparent MAP Ring for PFPs ([[:Image:Mapring.png|alternative versions inside]])
File:Mappridesticker.jpg|"MAP Pride Sticker" from @SvbbyPvbby ([[:Image:Mappridesticker.jpg|alternative b&w version inside]])
Dumpy975815219584589834-1.gif|'''GIF:''' Among Us Twerk/Among Us Dumpy-type meme
File:FqppVq8WIAIGlpk.jpg|MAP Flag Anime - many such examples present on [[Pediverse]]
Mapflagfaded.png|Faded 2021 MAP Flag
File:Yesmap.png|2022 "Yesmap Flag" - exclusive [[pro-c]] symbol first published here
File:Mapunion.png|2023 Union MAP Flag concept combining the 2018 and 2021 variants
File:Lgbmap.png|Gay MAP Flag (contrary to popular claims, these have barely been adopted by MAPs)
File:Lesmap.png|[[Intergenerational Lesbianism|Lesbian MAP]] Flag (contrary to popular claims, these have barely been adopted by MAPs. Supposedly, [[Girllove|GL]] and [[Boylove|BL]] versions exist, too)
File:Kanji.png|Kanji (Chinese, Japanese) Love Symbol with [[Adult Attracted Minor|AAM]] flag colors ([[:Image:Kanji.png|alternative MAP versions inside]])
File:Mapaam.png|AAM heart inside a pro-choice MAP Flag (beefriend)
File:MAPFteacher.png|Teacher displays 2018 MAP Flag ([[:File:MAPFteacher.png|PS by beefriend, both versions available]])
File:MAPFteacher20.png|Lecturer displays 2021 MAP Flag ([[:File:MAPFteacher20.png|PS by beefriend, both versions available]])
File:Boymap.png|A small boy carries the MAP Flag (beefriend)
File:Mapkid.png|Small girl with MAP Flag (beefriend)
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==Simple/Traditional memes==

Traditional memes convey a short and salient message in a graphic. MAPs have been memed with (some would say) surprising success, and broadly throughout the internet. This is only a very narrow selection of the material that has been seen from various quarters. For an expanding range of such (user submitted) material see '''[https://booru.youjo.love/post/list booru.youjo.love]'''. Our own [[research]] graphics can be found at '''[[Index of Excerpt Gallery Libraries|this index]]''', or on their respective research pages.

===The MAP Identity===

In addition to graphics and symbols in the lead section of this archive, a number of memes reference the MAP Identity, its development, public perceptions and internal issues.

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File:The_Revolution_Won't_Be_Televised.png|The Revolution Won't Be Televised - (progress, rallying troops, gloating, woke, pride)
File:Enbymeme.png|Pink hair enby - MAP adaptation (enby, map, valid, identity)
File:Mapally5.png|Be a MAP Ally - (Minor Attracted Person, pedo, hebephile, alliance, asexual, lgbt, gay - [[:File:Mapally5.png|presented in asexual and rainbow flag variations]])
File:Youthpo.png|Youth pornography etc vs statist terminology (nomap, erotica, mocking, language, youthlove, response, reply, csam, csai, troll)
File:Loliconpipeline.png|Pipeline punch lolicon edit (proship, fiction, lolicon, japanese, drawings, art, cunny, hebephilia, pipeline, pedophilia, propaganda, newgon, pediverse)
File:Pridemonth.png|Google LGBT vs MAP Pride Month Trolling Response (google maps, parody, logo)
File:Mapally.jpg|Insufferable MAP Ally (destigmatizer, nomap, coping, map, virped, talking therapy)
File:FHOv8J3XoBIfSQt.jpg|Pedo Yes Chad - "Yes". (based, chads, pedophilia, lolis, cunny, lolipiller, drawings, art, lolicon, cope, seethe, hebephilia)
File:FU0ZTx4XwAAcfGr.jpg|Say what you want about pedophiles (trolling, minor attraction, map, comedy, humor, perv)
File:Glowig.png|Pedo Yes Chad vs Fediverse Glowie (based, chads, pedophilia, fbi, cia, glow, pedi, fedi)
File:Maprigh5.png|MAP Rights AI Anime Protest - (Minor Attracted Person, pedo, hebephile, youth rights, maps, anime, art - [[:File:Maprigh5.png|many versions available]])
</gallery>

===Youth Autonomy/Rights/Liberation===

The autonomy, [[Research: Cognitive ability|capacities]] and liberation of youth are all likely to be crucial battlegrounds for MAPs,, [[Adult Attracted Minor|AAMs]] and their Allies over the next few decades. Another way of describing this, is fighting [[ageism]]. Anti-ageist memes are dotted around our categories, and the following are explicitly anti-ageist.

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File:FUbrBs9VsAA9vta.jpeg|Parents: I know you more than anyone else > No, you don't (youth, child, parent, autonomy, rights)
File:rapememe.png|How to prevent rape (hypocrisy, body autonomy, minor-adult sex, agency, irrational, coercion, awareness, education, youth, choice, prevention)
File:Scrolloftruth.png|Scroll of truth: Youth autonomy prevents abuse (hypocrisy, body autonomy, agency, irrational, choice, protection, education, youth, prevention)
File:Domino.png|Domino effect - Investigating MAPs to supporting YouthLib (liberation, youth rights, logic, sequential, cause and effect)
</gallery>

===CSA Absurdism and Professional Hypocrisy===

A large number of MAP and MAP-Adjacent memes expose and magnify the absurdism of narratives around [[safeguarding]], abuse, trauma and child protection. In some cases, the hypocritical beliefs of professionals and "experts" are given special treatment.

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File:Childinnocence.png|Childhood innocence has existed for around 2% of time (history, safeguarding, ethnology, protection)
File:believe.jpg|Believe the Children (consent, abuse, trauma, testimony, trust, children, courtroom, legal, doctor, hypocrisy, medicine - [[:File:believe.jpg|alternative inside re. conversion therapy]])
File:Psychs.png|Child psychologists cat reaction to minors (minor-minor sex, science, rso, registry reform, pseudoscience, victomology)
File:BBoobs.jpg|Babies vs Teens Sucking Boobs (consent, hypocrisy, babies, age, teens, perversion, professor, inappropriate)
File:Main-qimg-12579087b355f31646ea5b1f506cf832-lq.jpg|I, too have lost a kingdom (sex offender, rso, kiddy fiddler, atlantis, athenian, surreal, hysteria, bizarre, molester)
File:denial.jpg|Child protectors believe children are in denial (minor-adult sex, testimony, rationalization, distortion, minors, ignorant, fallacy, mental blocking)
Fhritp.png|A 15 year old is a child, period (mic drop, jamal, teen, menstruation, child, triggered, antis, sjw, feminist, npc, based, comeback, reply, response)
File:Confused2.png|Confused if he should be scarred for life (age, arbitrary, teen, minor-adult sex, trauma, damage, scarred, absurd, crazy)
File:At85scarred.png|85 year old man learns he was abused ([https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35232293/ implausible] reaction) (age, arbitrary, teen, minor-adult sex, elderly, trauma, damage, scarred, absurd, crazy)
File:FJy-YI XIAEWo2U.png|Juvenile offending records vs sex offender records (facepalm, normies, register, registry, rso, law, legal, insane, madness, arbitrary, minors, youth, kids)
File:TouchingGood.png|Good Touches (teacher, education, instruction, learning, quote, swimsuit, protection, sexual harassment, abuse, trauma)
File:Whenispacceptable.png|When is pedophilia acceptable political compass (reply, response, politics, map, pedo, libertarian, authoritarian, left, right)
File:Misopedic.png|Misopedic ageists (antis, chad, swim, children, ageism, moronic, surrealist, girl, cute)
File:randomphotonew.png|Random photo reaction (hysteria, funny, sex fascists, western, crazy, nonwestern, fellatio, suck, abuse, overreaction)
File:WaterGlassSF.png|Glass of Water with optimist, pessimist and Sex Fascists (hysteria, sex fascists, western, indian, nonwestern, abuse, cultural, overreaction - [[:File:WaterGlassSF.png|version with various countries inside]])
File:Unboy.png|United Nations vs Teen Boy (agency, consent, autonomy, international community, bureaucracy, ngo, unicef, ILGA, hypocrisy, feminism, leftism, lizard people, feminazis)
File:18th Birthday Clock hit 12.jpg|Arbitrary nature of age limit (hypocrisy, child, adult, teen, consent, autonomy, americans, agency, age, 18, absurd)
File:SexualOritent.jpg|'Child' is not a Gender (identitarian, sexuality, orientation, identity, validity, sjw, woke, adult, adultism, gender, pedophilia)
File:MAPSchool.png|Public Schools (map, prevalence, pedophilia, hebephilia, response, reply, naive, parents, grooming, access, protection, education - combine with [[Research: Prevalence|prevalence]] info)
File:horse.png|Covering genitals to prevent trauma to baby horses (nudity, bullshit, hysterical, children, graphic, protection, morality, americans, scarred, mental)
File:Childmeme.png|Responding to in-thread misdefinition of child (definition, accuracy, reply, response, children, dumb, hysterical, ageism, dictionary, teens)
File:Brain Development Is Ableist (2).png|Brain Development is Ableist (cognitive capacity and development, mental, minor-adult sex, ability, disabled, ageist, ageism, chauvinism)
File:FJARn kWQAElHfn.jpg|Brain scan - trauma absurdity (consent, minor-adult sex, age, harm, law, arbitrary, absurd, science, pseudoscience, americans, cognitive, westerners)
File:Expressfake.png|Fake Express article (blame, minor-adult sex, age, harm, economy, absurd)
</gallery>

===Responding to [[Anti]]s (and their hypocrisy)===

Some responses to anti-MAP sympathies are also included under "redeploying hostile discourses" and the sections on conservatives, liberals and CSA Absurdism.

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File:Sexbingo.png|Sex Fascist Bingo: (hypocrisy, religion, consent, cognitive development/capacity, mental, pedophiles, orientation, distortion, fallacy, fallacies, antis, response)
File:Fuckyou.png|Minor attraction is wrong/Fuck you (antis, parents, reply, response, comeback)
File:217 - anti-map flag artist chizu type edit.png|Burning the anti-MAP Flag (antis, haters, reply, response, comeback)
File:Qplamz.png|Antis and parents vs MAPs, Minors collateral (antis, parents, reply, response, comeback, law, secondary harm, crossfire)
File:Woodchippagobrrrrr.jpg|Anti wojak, annotated (antis, trolling, insult, woodchipper, face wall, moronic, dumb, reply, response)
File:Minorcard.png|Minor card, with privileges (underage, puriteen, reply, response, juvenile, twitter, debate, argument, opinion discarded)
File:DontloveCLs.png|Love children but don't love CLs (pedophile, response, reply, comeback, parents)
File:FQU5DnXWYAQkKTI.jpg|Yes Chad baseball bat anti-meme response (gore/blood, violence, consent, attack, validity, reply, response, based, pedo)
File:Yeschadconsenting.png|Islam Yes Chad baseball bat anti-meme consent response (gore/blood, violence, consent, attack, allahu akbar, reply, response, based, pedo)
File:Hateyourself.png|"You should hate yourself" NPC (MAP Flag, cope, seethe, pedo, hebephilia, self concept, ego - [[:File:Hateyourself.png|Chinese translation]] inside)
File:Bluherinnerbattlefield.png|Reaction formation in antis (antis, haters, quote, response, reply, zoophile, self loathing, reaction, projection, denial, psychological)
File:Fbi.jpg|FBI anti-meme response (fed, feelings, offended, hurt, feelz, feds, police report, reply, response, haters, law enforcement, alphabet agencies)
File:Sfascist.gif|'''(GIF)''' Sex fascist clairvoyant "nonce" comeback (paranormal, spirit, reader, fortune, mystic, antis, reply, response, haters, nonce, pedophile, paedo)
File:Orcgif.gif|'''(GIF)''' VAR decision "nonce" comeback (football, soccer, orc, decision, antis, reply, response, haters, nonce, pedophile, paedo)
File:Sponge.png|Stigma on pedophiles ok, no stigma on child wage slavery ok (antis, haters, taboo, stigmas, pedophile, map, spongebob, rights, child labor, consumer, hypocrisy)
File:FPGlITUWYAkbGCV.jpg|Call him a pedo (sheeple, normies, conservatives, ad hominem, defamation, debate, response, reply, facts, social media, twitter logic)
File:269.jpg|Hypocrisy on child protection vs exploitation (sheeple, normies, reply, response, hypocrisy, conformity)
File:FHoD725WYAE3DSC.jpg|The real intentions of "seek therapy" (antis, haters, pedophile, map, mental health, services, rights, seek help, mhp, ableism, illness, validity, nomap, virped, pedmed, hypocrisy)
File:Therapy.png|Telling a MAP to seek therapy (antis, haters, pedophile, map, mental health, services, rights, seek help, mhp, b4uact, degenerate, nomap, virped, pedmed)
File:FGyKNkMXoAI7qbi.jpg|Polarizing topic (born this way, native, immutable, pedophilia, map, hypocrisy, sjws, normies, social justice, woke, lgbt, gay)
File:Orcbrain.jpeg|Pedo hater: Orc (response, reply, antis, red flag, woodchipper, nazi, fascist, groomer, caveman, hansen, monster, zombie, neanderthal, moron)
File:Antis.jpg|Antis creating their own monsters (antis, haters, nomap, pedophile, map, virped, pedmed, hypocrisy)
File:CSAexpert.png|CSA doesn't make you CSA expert (doctor, survivor, expert, arbitrary, science, minor-adult sex, abuse, trauma, fallacy, debate, reply, response)
File:Pedisevil.jpg|Source: Pedophilia is evil (online debate, fallacy, response, reply, chad, facts, social media, twitter logic)
</gallery>

====Responding to Western Hypocrisy====

Criticism of overbearing and sometimes absurd anglo-american moral and legal norms has been a mainstay of MAP memes.

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File:TechGiants.png|Tech Giants' Media Manipulation re. Child protection (hypocrisy, csa, ngos, trafficking, cultural, western, nonwestern, india, minor-adult sex, journalism, distortion, bias, standpoint)
File:Random.jpg|Western Arrogance with AoC (western, nonwestern, consent, elites, government, age, laws, sex)
File:FJzBuknXEAMnGhh.png|Elites laugh at Sex Offender Registry (elites, politicians, register, registry, rso, law, legal, insane, madness)
File:Doctor.jpg|Playing doctor shouldn't get you put on the registry (register, american, western, registry, rso, law, legal, insane, minors, kids, boy, madness)
File:Beachmeme.png|Volleyball girls - most men would find attractive (hypocrisy, child, adult, teen, consent, americans, age, 18, absurd)
File:FHzQh3LagAAQ9H7.png|Most people's idea of pedophilia (hypocrisy, cuck, child, teen, adult, consent, autonomy, americans, agency, age, 18, pedophile, simping, white knight)
File:Hebetruth.jpg|Most Men are Hebephilic/Ephebophilic, they just can't admit it (hypocrisy, circlejerk, cuck, child, teen, adult, consent, americans, age, 18, pedophile, simping, white knight)
File:Westerners17.png|How Westerners think biology works (western, nonwestern, hypocrisy, child, adult, teen, arousal, attraction, americans, age, 18, absurd)
File:Zombie.png|American/Western standards on children and nudity (innocence, media, tv, movies, children, america, indecent, nipple)
File:Usapedo.jpg|In America, everybody calls each other a pedo (ok pedo, antis, reply, response, defamation, america moment)
File:Changemymind.jpg|SOR a waste of money - response to "change my mind" (ok pedo, registry reform, reply, response, offending, offender)
File:ualization.png|Sexualization with Hijab and Bikini (nudity, children, protection, americans, western, hysteria, psychotic, neurosis, clothing, make-up, hypocrisy, grooming)
File:AnimeBan.png|Anime Ban proposal showing arrogance of the West (anime, lolicon, proship, drawings, art, americans, western, nonwestern, hysteria, hypocrisy, imperialism)
File:Untitled439.png|Dignitaries sit back and enjoy a display by lolis (hypocrisy, pedo, minor attraction, politician, duda, polish, ballet, artistic, dance, trolling)
</gallery>

===Responding to Conservatives (and their hypocrisy)===

Conservative hostility to MAPs has been a feature of many historical cultures, but formed as a visible movement in the 1970s, with campaigns from [[Moral panic|Anita Bryant]], [[Wikipedia:Mary Whitehouse|Mary Whitehouse]] and [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]] among others. The [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/chud "chud"] wojak is a mainstay of conservative depictions in present-day meming, and has been carried over into memes that ridicule conservative [[anti]]-MAPs.

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Chudbehavior.png|Chud behavior (trolling, pedo hunters, antis, kill all pedos, humor, ridicule, woodchipper)
File:Norfc.png|Norf FC nonce series (refers to British working class culture) (chud, hunter, paedo, football, soccer, fan - [[:File:Norfc.png|series inside]])
File:Catboy.jpg|Chudjak therapy (trolling, chud, freudian, antis, kill all pedos, humor, catboy, tiktok, ridicule, woodchipper)
File:Yessss.png|"Yes" to chud with infertile wife. (based, chads, pedophilia, lolis, cunny, lolipiller, cope, seethe, copium, hebephilia)
File:Groomer86.jpg|Grooming...according to who? (hypocrisy, groomer, conservatives, trans, bodily autonomy, choice, lgbt)
File:Slut2.png|Sex Fascists through the ages (hypocrisy, gay, lgbt, history, historical, slut shaming, female, modesty, prudery)
File:Averagepedophobe.jpg|Pedo chad vs Pedophobe conspiracy theorist (cunny, trolling, map, pedo, hebephile, lolis, jew, dads against predators, guns)
File:378.jpg|/pol/ hypocrisy on drawn child erotica (normies, conservatives, woodchipper, reply, response, hypocrisy, lolicon, fiction, proship, lolbertarian, redpill, bluepill, censorship, canceled)
File:FQUw6PLXoA48YBF.jpg|Conservatives are for free speech, but not for MAPs (sheeple, normies, conservatives, woodchipper, reply, response, hypocrisy, liberals, libertarian, lolbertarian, red blue pill, censorship, canceled)
File:matthew.png|St Nicholas/Matthew Christian trigger meme (reply, response, gay, boys, maps, trigger, bait, troll, santa claus, christmas, christian, religion)
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====Progress and Normalization====

A common claim of conservative [[anti]]-MAPs is that we are seeing a covert agenda of "pedophile [[MAPocalypse|normalization"]]. While this optimistic outlook does not match the lived experience of most MAPs, we have seen memes and graphics that play with the idea by situating MAPs within the broader liberal paradigm of "social progress", or unapologetically attempt to normalize attraction to minors.

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File:747.jpg|Slippery slope extended (gay, lgbtq, sjw, woke, based, progressive, homo, incrementalism, maga, groomer, boomer, response, reply)
File:075.jpg|We'll never let you... (gay, lgbtq, sjw, woke, based, progressive, homo, incrementalism, women, civil, maga, groomer, boomer, response, reply)
File:Alok.jpg|Alok Vaid-Menon Quote: "little girls are also kinky" (girls, innocence, kink, trigger, bait, conservatives, americans, queer, children, trans, straight, purity, modesty, innocent, pure)
File:Progress.png|That's how progress works (trolling, surreal, humor, ridicule, progressive)
File:Ourcrazyworld.jpg|Our Crazy World (cartoon, map, progress, gay, civil rights, humor, mapocalypse, normalization)
File:Cantorincludep.png|James Cantor - Add P to alphabet (sexuality, pedophilia, include the p, minor attraction, lgbt, gay, queer, maps, identitarian, researcher, quote, trigger/bait)
File:FHeCpC5XIAkE9Xx.jpg|Offensively realistic take on an age-gap relationship (girl, teen, maps, minor-adult sex, age gap, love, taboo, bait, troll)
File:Ipceconf.png|[[Ipce]] power point presentation, girl at podium (hebephilia, pedo, minor attraction, science, trolling)
File:Lolihebe.jpg|Hebe lolis w/ table showing response levels (graph, table, study, sexual arousal, troll, bait, attraction, age, pedophilia, hebephilia, girls, plethysmograph - this is adapted from the notorious [[:File:Halletal.jpg|fake Russian infomeme]])
File:Groomer.png|Grooming a girl with better-known MAP infomemes (groomer, troll, bait, children, ok groomer, abuser, kinsey, study, indoctrination - this meme refers to a [[:File:Adultadult2.png|Kinsey data meme]], and there is also an [[:File:Groomer.png|alt version referring to the adjacent russian meme]])
File:FXtPN01aQAEPj6C.jpg|Response to attractive girl, in denial (hypocrisy, pedo, minor attraction, trolling)
File:Ilovelolis.png|I love Lolis Chad (cunny, trolling, map, pedo, hebephile)
File:Shareifyoulovekids.jpg|Share if you love kids (trolling, minor attraction, map, aam)
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===Responding to Liberals/Leftists (and their hypocrisy)===

Liberal and Leftist points of view are varied on the topic of MAPs, but tend to range from mild disapproval, thru denial, to silenced embarrassment in the face of hearty conservative uproar. Often, MAPs (who have benefitted from collaboration with gay leftist movements in the past) are left by would-be allies to a fate determined solely by political optics. Thus, liberal and leftist discourses on MAPs sometimes refer to the questionable concept of social ''(in)validity'', something the LGBT section also addresses.

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File:Conversiontherapy.png|LGBT vs MAP conversion therapy - liberal [[pro-recovery]] response (pedophile, response, reply, comeback, map, lib, medical, hypocrisy, coping, mentally ill, therapy, seek help, gay, lgbt)
File:Abortionrape.png|Abortion vs Rape - Liberal Hypocrisy (abortion, religion, conservative, liberal, consent, ageism, youth, rights, adult)
File:FPXhdRSX0AEVeQ2.jpg|Anarchist Chads on Pedophilia in Queer Theory (normie, npc, conservatives, anarchism, queer, pedophilia, theory, dumb, homophobia, bigot)
File:Femgirl.png|Fembot vs Teen Girl (agency, consent, autonomy, services, protection, child, teen, shock, disgust, hypocrisy, feminism, leftism, radfem, feminazi)
File:Ussraoc.png|Inconvenient USSR Age of Consent (trolling, russia, anarchist, anarcho communist, communism, commie, marxist)
File:Soyjakparty.png|From soyjak.party (liberal, leftist, lgbt, coom, soy, gay, progress, pride, MAPs, mapphobia)
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====Responding to the LGBT Lobby (and its hypocrisy)====

[[Validity Policing]] and hypocrisy from the LGBT Lobby is a common experience of online MAPs. This follows expedient political maneuvres in the 1980s and 90s, in which the LGBT Lobby [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|responded to conservative anti-MAP scare campaigns]] by distancing MAPs. See also, some of the responses to Liberals.

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File:Lgbgender.png|LGBT Community can't move beyond trans issues on youth autonomy (lgbt, gay, trans, nonbinary, groomer, lgbtq, gender, youth, autonomy)
File:Gays-phobes.png|Gay hypocrisy re whataboutism over argument from nature/history (hypocrisy, gay, lgbt, irrational, slavery, barbaric, anger, nature, animals, historical, anthropological, homophobes, greece, pederasty)
File:Valpol.png|The Validity Police (lgbt, gay, pride, hypocrisy, policing, lgbtq, age appropriate, development - [[:File:Valpol.png|alternative versions inc. Transage inside]])
File:Antibadguy.png|Anti Bad Guy Squad (hypocrisy, gay, lgbtq, sjw, woke, invalid, validity, homo - ([[:File:Antibadguy.png|no-color version inside]]))
File:Mapgymnastics.png|MAP vs LGBT Mental Gymnastics (reply, response, rationalization, logic, fallacy, npc, gay, queer, sjw, argument, pedophile, minor-attracted)
File:Sheep copy.png|People whose definition of "Queer" is "anything acceptable" (reply, response, bait, queer, sjw, npc, woke, identitarian, identity, midwits, pedophilia, maps, gay rights, lgbt, normies - ([[:File:Sheep copy.png|series inside]]))
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===Responding to [[Lolicon]]s (and their hypocrisy)===

While some find it tiring, a [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate]] is ongoing throughout civilian political circles on social media. The following memes typify the MAP response to Western Lolicons who mobilize [[Proship|shipping]] discourse to deny they are attracted to youth.

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File:LoliMeme.jpg|Pointing to the hypocrisy of Lolicons (proship, fiction, child porn, lolicon, japanese, drawings, art, hypocrisy, pedophilia, cope, hebephilia - [[:File:LoliMeme.jpg|alternative inside re. plethysmograph test]])
File:FHQcxJbUUAADrQH.jpg|Bell curve on lolicon (proship, fiction, child porn, lolicon, japanese, npc, normie, midwit, drawings, art, cope, cognitive development, ability, capacity, brain, IQ, age, pedophilia, hebephilia - [[:File:FHQcxJbUUAADrQH.jpg|alternative versions]], inc re. mental capacity and elite pedophilia inside)
File:Fqk0qqmXgAgRp4j.jpg|Caricature of ironic lolicons (proship, fiction, child porn, lolicon, japanese, drawings, art, hypocrisy, pedophilia, trannies, trans, troon)
File:Cunnycave.png|Cunny cave (lolicons, ironic, proship, fiction, porn, drawings, art, pedophilia, hebephilia, denial)
File:117 - artist chicken thoughts artist chizu bird cracker ironic lolicon type comic edit.png|Chizu Lolicon "bird cracker edit" (lolicons, ironic, proship, fiction, porn, drawings, art, japanese, antis, pedophilia, hebephilia, denial)
File:FJffEqJXMAA2mnj.jpg|Pedos vs Lolicons (proship, fiction, child porn, lolicon, japanese, doctor, drawings, art, chad, cope, hypocrisy, pedophilia, hebephilia)
File:549iugbjkn34908r54.png|Algorithmic programmed response in lolicon and normie npc (proship, fiction, child porn, lolicon, japanese, drawings, art, cope, hypocrisy, ironics, pedophilia, hebephilia)
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===Redeploying hostile discourses===

A considerable part of online MAP discourse centers on the redeployment of predominant elitist, authoritarian and extremist narratives sometimes used to attack MAPs. While this has led to the embarrassment and triggering of [[anti]]s on social media, it is worth noting that some members of the community are ethically opposed to the idea of adopting problematic ideas inconsistent with personal, theoretical conceptions of social justice. These concerns have also been voiced in situations where MAPs enter "enemy territory" and unironically imitate disruptive/contrarian members of another group, such as [[Wikipedia:Groypers|4Chan Groypers]].

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File:Anti.png|Purposeful and smart Pedophiles vs Antis (pedos, pedophiles, maps, history, based, antis, haters, sex fascists, troll, bait)
File:Pedonoblememe.jpg|Pedophile/NOMAP of noble grace (reply, response, pedmed, virped, acnomap, virtuous, minor-attracted, map, virtue, antis, moron, idiot, cuck, asshole)
File:FgX2SHUUAAAL3Ij.jpg|Historical "pedophiles" (using broader popular definition) (pedos, pedophiles, maps, history, famous, wilde, response, troll, bait)
File:Uspepe.png|Pepe Wikipedia meme intended for use on 4Chan - Feminism and [[Age of Consent]] reformism (groyper, redpill, 4chan, puritan, reformism, frog)
File:Patriot4.png|Response meme re. PatriotWave's famous Kill Your Local Pedophile memes and bumper stickers etc - (guns, police, agecuck, conservative, reply, violent, vigilante, trolling, militia - [[:File:Patriot4.png|a few more variations inside]])
File:Sexfash.jpg|Cure for sex fascism (ok pedo, antis, fascist, reply, response, bullet, gun)
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===When MAPs met StoneToss===

:''See [https://booru.youjo.love/post/list/artist%3Astonetoss/1 Youjo:StoneToss] for more material''

Much has been [https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/StoneToss written] (and [https://web.archive.org/web/20210729193213/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Stonetoss unwritten]) about the controversial online political cartoonist, StoneToss. While our [[:File:Circumcision-surgery-stonetoss-comic.png|series file]] keeps track of various originals and knock-offs (originality can be [https://stonetoss.com/ verified] at the comic's site), a few examples follow. It should be noted that some members of the community found the very idea of copying StoneToss as a style problematic and offensive, due to the views of its creator.

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File:Cunneh.png|Fake Stonetoss - Legalize cunny (libertarian, marijuana, hemp, hashish, cannabis, 420, child porn, cunny, loli, erotica, internet)
File:FX n5peVUAENkB3.png|Stonetoss.com debuts the [[MAP Flag]] and [[Pedophobia|Pedovan]] (lgbt, gay, pride, degeneracy, groomer, lgbtq activism, predator, free candy)
File:Circumcision-surgery-stonetoss-comic.png|Stonetoss.com - Leonardo Di Caprio dating, LGBT response (lgbt, gay, pride, hypocrisy, sjw, cognitive capacity, brain development, consent, lgbtq activism, age appropriate - [[:File:Circumcision-surgery-stonetoss-comic.png|more such comics inside]])
File:170 - artist chizu artist stonetoss format stonetoss edit.png|Stonetoss: Chizu ''Lolicons are Pedophiles'' edit (lolicons, ironic, proship, fiction, porn, drawings, art, japanese, antis, pedophilia, hebephilia, denial)
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===Quotes and Miscellany===

The below memes can be applied to the debates covered on this page, and many more besides.

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File:Hwwouldyoulike.jpg|How would you like your state surveillance wrapped? (sheeple, normies, conservatives, liberals, online, reply, response, hypocrisy, lolbertarian, censorship, canceled)
File:Trojan_horse.jpg|CSA trojan to breach encryption laws (data protection law, technology, surveillance, ignorance, governments, cynical, hidden, conspiracy, horse, internet, protect)
File:Cancel Culture.png|Cancel culture: Then vs now (sheeple, normies, conservatives, history, 1950s, liberals, red blue pill, censorship, canceled)
File:Censorshipmartin.png|George R. R. Martin: What Censorship tells us (quote, canceled, red blue pill, censor, liberal, conservative, politics, media, free speech, freedom)
File:It is easier to fool people.jpg|[[Mark Twain]]: It's easier to fool people... (sheeple, normies, quote, denial, psychological, mechanism, mental, conformity, debate, social media, facts and feelings)
File:Prostitution- giving orgasms shouldn't be a crime.jpg|George Carlin - on Prostitution (selling sex, quote, morality, rational, sex work, prude, conservative, debate, bias, sheeple, normies)
File:Better Science.jpg|What does refute science? (research, facts, science, social media, debate, bias, sheeple, religion, feelings, normies)
File:Trust the Scientists.jpg|Trust scientists rather than randoms (warning, research, facts, science, social media, twittards, debate, bias, sheeple, normies)
File:Science vs Social Media.jpg|Real science vs Social Media "science" (warning, research, facts, distorted, media, education, debate, bias, sheeple, normies)
File:Conformity.png|Conformity hazard (warning, research, facts, debate, feelings, sheeple, normies)
File:204 - tagme.png|Effects of ad hom argument strategy (debate, personal, logic, unintended, minority, sheeple, normies)
File:283 - tagme.jpg|Sampling bias, effect on outcomes (statistics, rational, facts, science, logic, npc, sheeple, normies)
File:FUv8RZDWIAcd6wt.jpg|Reasonable people in the minority (warning, rational, facts, debate, bias, social media, feelings, sheeple, normies)
File:FcxaCdKX0AEhopp.jpg||Drew Keys Quote: Smear Campaigns (mental instability, sjw attack, social media, debate, reply, twittard, response)
File:Baseddep.jpg|Based department calling! (based, kek, pepe, compliment, reply, response)
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==Informational memes==

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File:Minorsbeware.png|Minors Beware (red flags): (antis, warning, minors, consent, advice, youth, guide)
File:22 - anti-map flag artist drugar educational sources.png|Drugar literacy campaign for antis (minor-adult sex, academia, reading, knowledge, trolling, research, literature, study, facts)
File:Pandfeminism.png|Pedophilia and Feminism (first wave, second wave, third wave, womens, youth rights, judith butler)
File:The Truth About 'CP'(5).png|What you need to know about [[Child Pornography]] (kp, cp, kiddy, porn, porno, erotica, photographs, crime, csam, kinderporno, csai, lolita - [[:File:The Truth About 'CP'(5).png|Chinese translation inside]])
File:Kaaaren.png|Karen confronts CP (kp, cp, kiddy, porn, porno, erotica, photographs, crime, csam, kinderporno, csai, lolita, pornography, research, quotes - [[:File:Kaaaren.png|Italian translation inside]])
File:Ncmec.png|NCMEC [[Iatrogenesis]] (kp, cp, kiddy, porn, porno, erotica, photographs, crime, csam, kinderporno, csai, lolita, pornography, research, secondary harm, quotes)
File:Scapegoat.png|MAP Scapegoat - compared with Jews, Witches (gays, lgbt, blacks, jew, pedophilia, minor attraction, stereotyping, maps, status, persecution, bogeyman, pariah, witchhunt - [[:File:Scapegoat.png|series inside]])
File:Truthaboutm.jpg|Truth about MAPs (addresses myths) (sexuality, pedophilia, hebephilia, ephebophilia, nepiophilia, maps, accuracy, nomap, pedmed, virped, acnomap, facts, stigma, destigmatization [[:File:Truthaboutm.jpg|Chinese translation in file]])
File:MDEdge.png|MDEdge definition of minor-attraction (sexuality, pedophilia, hebephilia, ephebophilia, nepiophilia, maps, definition, accuracy, nomap, pedmed, virped, acnomap, stigma, destigmatization)
File:Chronorange.png|Seto definition of minor-attractions and chronophilias (sexuality, pedophilia, hebephilia, ephebophilia, nepiophilia, maps, definition, accuracy, nomap, pedmed, virped, acnomap, stigma, destigmatization)
File:Peddef.png|Simple response to misdefinition of p(a)edophilia (sexuality, hebephilia, pedophilia, minor attraction, definition, dictionary, psychology, accuracy)
File:The CSA-Industry.png|CSA Industrial Complex: Criminalization (Social-Economic Model) (sociology, politics, institutions, establishment, elites, money, profit, complex, relationship, chart, medicine, influence, organization)
File:The CSA-Industrial Complex.png|CSA Industrial Cycle (Social-Economic Model) (sociology, politics, institutions, elites, money, profit, establishment, complex, relationship, chart, diagram, influence, organization)
File:CSA Is Similar(1).png|CSA similarities to treatment of Homosexuals (gay history, treatments, conversion, survivors, therapy, apa, psychology, therapist)
File:Socio.png|Sociopolitical Model: Marginialization of Sexual Minorities (maps, sociology, politics, pariah, newgon, othering, bipartisan, ostracism, social, class)
File:Pseudo-e-t.png|Pseudoexclusive Teleiophilia (a new concept) (sexuality, hebephilia, pedophilia, minor attraction, seto, freund, newgon, science, psychology, trigger/bait)
File:The Myth of “Pedophilia OCD” (800 × 1000 px).png|"[[Pedophilia OCD]]" Debunk (sexuality, pocd, hebephilia, pedophilia, minor attraction, fake illness, shrinks, obsessive compulsive, mental, health, newgon, arousal, science, psychology, cope)
File:Primary.png|Most Child Rape is perpetrated by non-pedophiles (sexuality, pedophilia, assault, minor attraction, maps, crime, nomap, pedmed, virped, acnomap, stigma, destigmatization)
File:ACMAPWEAKNES.png|Weaknesses of an exclusive ACNOMAP/Medicalist agenda (pedmed, virpeds, pedophilia, minor attraction, maps, strategy, destigmatization)
File:Prevalence.jpg|Pedophilia [[Research: Prevalence|prevalence]] card, no link (sexuality, pedophilia, common, research, maps, minor-attraction, facts, stats, statistics, numbers)
File:Tac.png|Toxic Age Chauvinism (ageism, ableism, youth lib, youth rights, cognitive ability, research, quote, mental, teen brain)
File:Secoharm.png|Secondary Harm explainer (study, academia, secondary, trauma, harm, quote, paper, report, outcomes, csa, minor-adult sex - [[:File:SecNewColor.png|see full series]])
File:patterns45.png|Similar patterns between homosexuality and pedophilia (parrelel, similar, comparison, analogy, minor attraction, gay, queer, lgbt, western, nonwestern, animals, tribal, anthropological, cultural)
File:Pedodisorder2.png|Lecter: Pedophilic Disorder distinction ("inborn" is disputable, and the author has since evolved a less medicalist stance but the distinction is important) (sexuality, pedmed, virped, acnomap, pedophilia, minor attraction, native, science, psychology, innate, immutable, disorder, dsm)
File:Prevent.png|Prevent MAPs from accessing minors? Why not prevent physical abuse survivors while we are at it? (sexuality, neglect, hebephilia, risk, access, pedophilia, minor attraction, seto, freund, science, psychology)
B4u-mapflag.jpg|Suicide Stats (MAPs) (sexuality, pedophilia, minor attraction, death, pedmed, virped, nomap, acnomap, depression, despair, psychology, research, B4U-Act, standpoint - [[:File:B4CnEdit.png|Chinese translation]])
File:Thoughtsuppresion.png|Thought Suppression take (MAP Resources) (psychology, pedophilia, minor attraction, maps, pedmed, virped, nomap, acnomap, depression, despair, psychology, research)
File:Blackmales.png|Logic of antis vs crime statistics: Put a curfew on Black Men (sexuality, african american, hebephilia, risk, access, pedophilia, minor attraction, seto, science, psychology)
File:Mentaldisorder.png|"Mental disorders" according to psychiatry (sexuality, hebephilia, disorder, psychiatry, trans, illness, history, pedophilia, minor attraction, mental, science, psychology, analogy, similar)
File:Academia-controversy.jpg|What people's insistence on getting offended by academics proves (academia, hysteria, kershnar, controversy, offence, triggered, csa, science, lies, defense mechanism, projection, denial, walker, psychology, abuse, philosophy)
File:Lievreorthodoxy.png|Dan Lievre (Newgon Founder): Social Justice Orthodoxy makes no sense on MAPs (useful when dealing with charges that the MAP Movement is "woke". Tags: sexuality, hebephilia, validity, woke, quote, sjw, history, social theory, pedophilia, minor attraction, identitarianism, politics)
File:animalHebe1.png|Intergenerational sex among Primates with citation (animals, study, practise, rind/yuill, minor-adult sex, academic, observation, science, monkeys, species, learning)
File:Bonobos.png|[[Research: Intergenerational Sexual Behaviors in Animals|Bonobo Juveniles/infants]] enjoying sex play (animals, study, academic, practise, minor-adult sex, observation, science, monkeys, species, learning)
File:BonoHuman.png|Human-Bonobo-Chimp finer comparison (animals, cognitive capacity, capability, minor-adult sex, science, animals, monkeys, species, learning)
File:Karen-innocence.png|A Karen confronts [[Debate Guide: Childhood innocence|childhood innocence]] (quote, study, academia, innocent, teens, children, crazy, hysteria, boomers, facebook)
File:Rind.jpg|20+ year-old [[Rind et al|Rind]] Paradox (see more in [[Research]] and the [[Index of Excerpt Gallery Libraries|excerpt graphics]]) (study, academia, controversy, unanswered, paper, report, trauma, harm, outcomes, csa, minor-adult sex)
SRcombined.png|Statutory rape is a legal fiction (law, minor-adult sex, hysteria, madness, arbitrary, victim, victimless, consensual, crime)
File:StatDeath.png|Statutory Death parody (law, minor-adult sex, courtroom, funny, hysteria, madness, judge judy, arbitrary, victim, victimless, consensual, crime)
File:ChadVsSoy.jpg|CunnyChad vs Reddit Soyjak Mod (child-adult sex, based, minor-adult sex, academia, bruce rind, comparison, csa, data, analysis, quant, consenting, voluntary)
File:Adultadult2.png|Kinsey Data ([[:File:Adultadult2.png|series inside]]) (research, minor-adult sex, academia, bruce rind, comparison, csa, data, analysis, quant, child, consenting, voluntary)
File:Lesbians.png|Modern Feminists disowning Lesbian History (Kinsey) (research, minor-adult sex, academia, bruce rind, comparison, csa, data, analysis, quant, child, consenting, voluntary)
File:Rind23.png|Rind 2023 data. (research, minor-adult sex, academia, bruce rind, comparison, csa, data, analysis, quant, child, consenting, voluntary)
File:Zarade.jpg|LGBT Outcomes: "Listen to LGBT Youth" For the papers by Sonya Arreola, Alex Carballo-Diéguez and Jessica Stanley, see DOI: 10.1080/00224490802204431, DOI: 10.1007/s10508-011-9748-y and DOI: 10.1080/00224490409552245 respectively. (research, minor-adult sex, academia, lgbt, comparison, gay, youth, analysis, data, quant, child, consenting, voluntary)
File:Dolphin2.png|Adult-juvenile sex among Dolphins (animals, minor-adult sex, juvenile, similar, analogy, species, science, observation)
File:Endthecycle.png|[[Debate Guide: Cyclical paternalism|Cyclical paternalism]] explainer (consent, minor-adult sex, knowledge, ignorance, innocence, self fulfilling prophecy, paternalism, adultism, ageism, adverse consequence - [[:File:Endthecycle.png|Italian translation inside]])
File:Self-fulfilling.png|Self-fulfilling prophecy of harm (minor-adult sex, minor-minor sex, csa, damage, kids, children, education, teach, indoctrination, americans, secondary harm - [[:File:Self-fulfilling.png|alternative inside]])
File:Grooming2.png|[[Grooming]] is circular logic (fallacy, ok groomer, abuse, csa, language, minor-adult sex, harm, trauma, damage)
File:GroomingReworked.png|Grooming vs Courtship (fallacy, ok groomer, abuse, hypocrisy, csa, language, minor-adult sex, harm, manipulation, trauma, media, damage)
File:Groomingncmec.png|Analysis of NCMEC/Lanning Report pathologizing banality (grooming, feds, fbi, ncmec, minor-adult sex, law, americans)
File:Legalityreality.jpg|Legal consent does not equal reality (rape, statutory, abuse, csa, language, minor-adult sex, laws, consent, rso)
File:trickery.png|Wordplay: what they really mean (rape, statutory, abuse, csa, language, minor-adult sex, consent, voluntary, harm, trauma, damage)
File:Nonfic.png|Nonfiction for MAPs (seen on [[pediverse]]) (reading, research, academia, minor attracted person, minor-adult sex, levine, brongersma, positive memories, trauma)
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==Larger flyers==

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File:Lilystory.png|Narrative explaining the nonsense/unnatural concept of a consenting age (consent, minor-adult sex, law, legal, arbitrary, madness)
File:ConsentExamples.png|Consent explained with examples (consent, statutory, legal construct, minor-adult sex, law, arbitrary, madness, nonwestern - [[:File:ConsentExamples.png|Italian translation inside]])
File:AoCWestern.png|Age of Consent Flyer - Western examples (consent, purity, girls, minor-adult sex, law, legal, arbitrary, madness, nonwestern, western - [[:File:AoCWestern.png|Indian version inside]])
File:SecNewColor.png|Iatrogenic harm - comparison with other taboos (study, academia, secondary, trauma, harm, quote, paper, report, outcomes, csa, minor-adult sex - [[:File:SecNewColor.png|series inside]])
File:AMCleftist.jpg|Anti-MAP Crap (maps, fallacies, arguments refuted, antis, sex fascists, reply, response, minor attracted people)
File:Leftistpamphlet.png|Newgon-branded Pamphlet (from down the index) in Leftist Meme Style (maps, facts, accuracy, leaflet, propaganda, information, minor attracted people)

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==Logical Fallacies series==

See our [[Debate Guide: Logical fallacies and intergenerational sexuality|Debate Guide]] article on the subject.

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File:Ad Populum.png|Ad Populum - Appeal to popularity (ad pop)
File:Ad Hominem.png|Ad Hominem - Personal attack (ad hom, ok pedo, ok groomer)
File:Authority Appeal.png|Appeal to authority
File:Equivocation.png|Equivocation - misleading with terminology (e.g. rape)
File:Genetic Fallacy.png|Genetic Fallacy
File:Guilt By Association.png|Guilt by association
File:Hasty Generalization.png|Hasty Generalization
File:Novelity Appeal.png|Appeal to novelty
File:Special Pleading 2 .png|Special pleading
File:Style Over Substance.png|Style over substance (tone)
File:Strawman.png|Strawman argument (raping babies argument)
File:Ad Nauseum 2.png|Ad Nauseum
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==Positive memories==

Stories about positive memories from verified sources.

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==Anti-MAPs who were caught with their pants down==

There exist numerous examples of stridently anti-pedophile men, who themselves ended up being exposed for their [[Pedophilia|"pedophilic"]] and [[Hebephilia|"hebephilic"]] inclinations. These are sometimes used in online banter, and by [[MAP Movement|activists]].

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==Anti memes==

These memes have been produced by [[anti]]s (usually on Twitter or Facebook). You can use these memes to take advantage of hate and anger - spreading awareness of MAPs. Setting up an account as a hostile anti might actually be a way of ''avoiding'' censorship on certain platforms. It also gives us control over how the debate is "framed".

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File:Pedoisland.png|Pedophile Island
File:Pedonorm.png|Normalizing Pedophiles
File:GaG.png|[[Gays Against Groomers]]
File:BLACKPROP1.png|Attacks the shift in language, mentions Newgon
File:BLACKPROP2.png|Mentions [[Minor Attracted Person]] euphemism and researchers
File:AMERIPROP.png|Mentions [[Minor Attracted Person]] euphemism and cultural background
File:FPSIc0qWUAA-Y60.jpg|Very smart meme using trans bodily autonomy vs freedom of youth to have sexual experiences
File:Blackprop1.jpg|The plan to legalize
File:Paedoagends.jpg|The Paedophile agenda - accuses LGBT
File:Hebepedo.png|Hebephile/Pedophile distinction irrelevant to antis
File:FQo-G4gUcAI-kI7.jpg|OK Groomer
File:Antigroom.jpg|Antigroom Aktion
File:Gunishment.gif|'''(GIF)''' They don't deserve punishment, they deserve GUNISHMENT!
File:Ladypee.jpg|Have you never seen a LADY pee?!
File:1648647292071.jpg|And then one day, people voted for Hitler
File:1676641606100796.png|Fact checking the fact checkers
File:1659055468592612.jpg|LGBT groomers, therapist, freudian
File:Genderpop.png|Conservatives think kids are being made to suck she-dick (or something like that)
File:Cringe.png|LGBT agenda is the devil
File:Secretcodes.png|Pronouns are basically pedophilia code
File:Normaliz.jpg|Shared by Dr David Cartland on Twitter
</gallery>

==Basic material==

<gallery>
File:Iliveagain.jpg|By Iliveagain ([[Pediverse|fediverse]])
File:HJ.png|By HandsomeJack
File:Bearbase.png|Basic Pedobear art (transparent surround)
Pbear.png|Brown Pedobear (transparent surround)
File:Untitled-1.png|Alternative [[Virtuous Pedophiles|Virped]] Logo ([[:File:Untitled-1.png|alternative versions]] inside)
</gallery>

==Pamphlets==

Our pamphlet, '''"Minor-Attracted People (MAPs), Just the facts"''', is intended to look like plain and dowdy propaganda (until you look inside). Previews and PDF available. You may have to experiment with "fitting to page width" or "scaling" to get the folds to go bang down the center, but we have done most of the work for you.

<Gallery>
File:Pamphletmapscale.png|Front
File:Pamphletmapscale2.png|Back
</Gallery>

'''[[Media:Pamphletmapscale.pdf|Download full PDF]]'''

===Pamphleteering===

We have a short [[Pamphleteering|guide on pamphleting]], and some of our older material is still archived there. Hopefully, this will be an inspiration for future efforts, or reworking of old material.

==Media flyers==

These are small publications that can be emailed to target groups, such as media organizations, or sent to their social media accounts.

*[[Media:ContentDemo.pdf|Info Pack (2022) for media organizations]] - selling the controversy re minor-adult sex

==Notes==

[[Category:Promotional Media]]

Minor attraction in popular culture

2024-02-18T21:05:00Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Live-action movies */

{{Template:Lists}}<div style="margin-right: 25px; float: left;">__TOC__</div>This page serves to document instances of minor attraction in [[Wikipedia:Popular_culture|popular culture]], particularly entertainment such as film, music, television, video games, and anime.

Such instances are of interest from a cultural standpoint, for example taking note of different views on [[Minor Attracted Person|minor attraction]] through different cultures and time periods, or the concepts of attraction to minors and adult-minor relationships being a common theme in societal subconscious and expressed in works of art despite an overlying taboo.

The following list is sorted by several categories, and each entry is labeled according to the type of relationship:
* Man-Girl ('''MG''') - a relationship between an adult male and a female minor.
* Woman-Boy ('''WB''') - a relationship between an adult female and a male minor.
* Man-Boy ('''MB''') - a relationship between an adult male and a male minor.
* Woman-Girl ('''WG''') - a relationship between an adult female and a female minor.
* Various ('''V''') - Multiple types.
* '''N/A''' - Not applicable (features minor attraction or minor-attracted characters as a general concept).

== Live-action movies ==

:''See also [https://www.newgon.net/prd/film/index.html PRD lists] (may be outdated).''

* '''Beau-pere''' (Bertrand Blier, 1981) ('''MG''')
** The story is centered around the growing sexual infatuation a man has for his 15-year-old stepdaughter after his wife’s death.
* '''Laura, les ombres de l’ete''' (David Hamilton, 1979) ('''MG''')
** An old artist becomes attracted to a pubescent girl.
* '''Fruhreifen-Report''' (Ernst Hofbauer, 1973) ('''MG''')
** An anthology movie dealing with girls’ sexuality, the third part involving a man getting off from abusing his stepdaughter together with his wife.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071230025153/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voor_een_verloren_soldaat For a lost soldier]''' (Roeland Kerbosch, 1992) ('''MB''')
** The protagonist recounts his childhood in WW2-era Netherlands, in particular his romantic relationship with a Canadian soldier.
* '''La disubbidienza''' (Aldo Lado, 1981) ('''WB''')
** An emotionally broken teenage partisan finds comfort in and becomes attracted to two adult women.
* '''Lolita''' (Stanley Kubrick, 1962) ('''MG''')
** Stanley Kubrick’s adaptation of “Lolita” by Vladimir Nabokov, with the titular character played by Sue Lyon, then 16.
* '''Lolita''' (Adrian Lyne, 1997) ('''MG''')
** Adrian Lyne’s adaptation of Nabokov’s “Lolita”, with the role of the titular girl played by a then-15-years-old Dominique Swain.
* '''Piccoli fuochi''' (Peter Del Monte, 1985) ('''WB''')
** Tommaso, a little boy, bonds with his maid Mara.
* '''Piccole labbra''' (Mimmo Cattarinich, 1978) ('''MG''')
** An Italian WW1 veteran becomes attracted to a 12-year-old gypsy girl.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071204153212/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_amiti%C3%A9s_particuli%C3%A8res_(film) Les amities particulieres]''' (Jean Delannoy, 1964) ('''MB''')
** The story tells of the intimate relationship between a 17-year-old and 10-year-old boys in a catholic boarding school.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071219025127/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Amant The lover]''' (Jean-Jacques Annaud, 1992) ('''MG''')
** An adaptation of the novel “The Lover” by Marguerite Duras. An affair between a 30-year-old Chinese man and a 15-year-old French girl in colonial Vietnam.
* '''American beauty''' (Sam Mendes, 1999) ('''MG''')
** Part of the plot is about the protagonist struggling with his sexual attraction for his daughter’s friend, a 16-year-old girl.
* '''Death in Venice''' (Luchino Visconti, 1972) ('''MB''')
** An adaption of Mann’s novel of the same name, starring a then 14-year-old Björn Andrésen in the role of Tadeusz. A composer becomes obsessed with a beautiful teenage boy he meets in Venice.
* '''Meri Nimmo''' (Rahul Ganore Shanklya, 2018) ('''WB''')
** Set in modern India, a young boy develops a romantic attraction for an adult woman.
* '''Sundays and Cybele''' (Serge Bourguignon, 1962) ('''MG''')
** The film tells the tragic story of a friendship (with romantic undertones) between a young girl and an innocent but emotionally disabled veteran of the First Indochina War.
* '''Muidhond''' (Patrice Toye, 2019) ('''MG''')
** A paedophile struggles with leading a normal life, especially now that one of the new neighbours is a young girl.
* '''The trouble with being born''' (Sandra Wollner, 2020) ('''MG''')
** The first part of the movie deals with a man who has sex with an android that has the semblances of his now-deceased 10-year-old daughter.
* '''Cuties''' (Maïmouna Doucoure, 2020) ('''MG''')
** A scene involves the girls successfully titillating some security guards.
* '''Guter Junge''' (Torsten C. Fischer, 2008) ('''MB''')
** A tragic tale of a young pedophile as he struggles with his desires while living with his estranged but supportive father.
* '''Pretty baby''' (Louis Malle, 1978) ('''MG''')
** Hattie, a prostitute and her 12-year-old daughter Violet meet photographer Ernest J. Bellocq. He fascinates Violet. Over the next few months, Hattie marries and goes to St. Louis, leaving Violet behind, and Violet determines to marry Bellocq.
* '''The Orphan''' (Jaume Collett-Serra, 2009) ('''MG''')
** A scene involves the orphan, a 9-years-old girl, trying to seduce her adoptive father.
* '''Poison Ivy''' (Katt Shea, 1992) ('''MG''')
** The 17-year-old actress plays the role of a seductress in this movie.
* '''Leon: The Professional''' (Luc Besson, 1994) ('''MG''')
** The titular protagonist, a hitman, reciprocates the romantic affections of his protégée, played by a 12-years-old Natalie Portman.
* '''Beautiful girls''' (Ted Demme, 1996) ('''MG''')
** A New York jazz pianist courts a 13-year-old girl
* '''Interview with the Vampire''' (Neil Jordan, 1994) ('''MG''')
** An adaptation of Anna Rice’s novel of the same name, featuring a then 12-year-old Kirsten Durst in the role of the little vampire girl.
* '''Man on fire''' (Élie Chouraqui, 1987) ('''MG''')
** Based on Quinnell’s novel of the same name, bodyguard gradually befriends his client, a wealthy 12-year-old girl. Romantic undertones are present.
* '''Man on Fire''' (Tony Scott, 2004) ('''MG''')
** An Adaptation of Quinnell’s novel of the same name, starring a then 10-year-old Dakota Fanning in the role of the little girl.
* '''Anandi Gopal''' (Sameer Vidhwans, 2019) ('''MG''')
** Biographical film of Anandi Gopal, the first female doctor. The movie also portrays the youth-adult marriage between her and a man in his late twenties whilst she was 9 years old.
* '''Blue Is the Warmest Colour''' (Abdellatif Kechiche, 2013) ('''WG''')
** The friendship between a 15-year-old girl and an adult woman takes an erotic turn.
* '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Strange_Love Love Strange Love]''' (Walter Hugo Khouri, 1982) ('''WB''')
** A 12-year-old boy is constantly sexually teased and taunted by young women in his stepfather’s house.
* '''Phoring''' (Indranil Roychowdhury, 2012) ('''WB''')
** A young boy becomes infatuated with his teacher.
* '''Blank Check''' (Rupert Wainwright, 1994) ('''WB''')
** An 11-year-old boy, after receiving a blank check, decides to spend all the money, including throwing an expensive party where he dates a teller from a bank.
* '''The Woodsman''' (Nicole Kassell, 2004) ('''N/A''')
** The film follows a convicted child molester who must adjust to life after being released from prison.
* '''Kopfplatzen''' (Savaş Ceviz, 2019) ('''MB''')
** It's about a pedophile who begins struggling with his attraction when a mother and her 8-year-old son move into the apartment next to him.
* '''Labyrinth''' (Jim Henson, 1986) ('''MG''')
** The movie tells us a story of a teenage girl Sarah and a goblin king Jareth, obsessed with her.
* '''That’s my boy''' (Sean Anders, 2012) ('''WB''')
** A satirical comedy which features a sexual relationship between a young student and a teacher. Though initially seeming disgusted by the student flirting with her, the teacher later seduces him.
* '''En Proie''' (David Guiraud, 2016) ('''MG''')
** A shot film about Thomas and his struggles with his pedophilic attraction, with him trying as much as he can to abstain from certain habits via physical exercise. At his daughter's birthday party, his path crosses that of little Mathilde. What was only supposed to be a banal event like treating a wound then becomes a real ordeal for him.
* '''Softie''' (Samuel Theis, 2021) ('''MB''')
** A coming-of-age movie following a troubled 10-year-old boy living with his single mother and two siblings in Forbach, France, as he struggles to reconcile the hardships of life and his sexuality, part of it including his almost-romantic relationship with his teacher.
* '''Elève libre''' (Joachim Lafosse, 2008) ('''MB''')
**A sixteen-year-old aspiring tennis pro neglects his education in hopes of volleying his way straight to Wimbledon, but finds his ambitions sidelined when his relationship with his tutor takes a decidedly personal turn.
* '''Clément''' (Emmanuelle Bercot, 2001) ('''WB''')
** A 13-year-old boy develops a crush on a grown woman old enough to be his mother while on a vacation at the beach, only to discover she is also attracted to him, in this controversial drama from France.
* '''Evolution''' (Lucile Hadžihalilović, 2015) ('''WB''')
** A sci-fi horror thriller following Nicholas, a sickly young boy and his discovery of weird events surrounding his island. His friend and best helper is Stella, one of the island's nurses.
* '''Malèna''' (Giuseppe Tornatore, 2000) ('''WB''')
** In a small WW2-era Sicilian town, teen boy Renato becomes obsessed with the town's pariah, a despised widow who's also envied for her beauty.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071023013303/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Without_a_Face The Man Without a Face]''', (1993, Mel Gibson), based on the novel The Man Without a Face by Isabelle Holland ('''MB''')
** A disfigured teacher with a mysterious past forms a friendship with a troubled 12-year-old boy. Public suspicion over the nature of their relationship drives the film toward its climax, though the actual relationship between the two is left ambiguous.
* '''Lust och fägring stor''', released in English as All Things Fair (Bo Widerberg, 1995) ('''WB''')
** The story of a sexual relationship between a teacher and her 15-year-old student in Malmö, Sweden during World War II.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20071017013934/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.I.E. '''L.I.E.'''] (Michael Cuesta, 2001) ('''MB''')
** The film about is about sexuality exploration and the relationship between a 15-year-old boy and a pederast.
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20071105042325/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_(film) '''Kinsey'''] (Bill Condon, 2004) ('''V''')
** Kenneth Braun furnished Alfred C. Kinsey of the Kinsey Institute with a virtual autobiography of his sexual life. He claims sexual relations with 605 pre-adolescent males and with 231 pre-adolescent females as well as many family members.
* '''Gossenkind''', released in English as Street Kid and Streetchild (Peter Kern, 1992) ('''MB''')
** 14-year-old sex-worker meets an older man and loving relationship begins
* '''Eban and Charley''' (James Bolton, 2000) ('''MB''')
** A 29-year-old forms an intimate relationship with a 14-year-old boy.
* '''Un enfant dans la foule''' (A Child in the Crowd) (Gérard Blain, 1976) ('''MB''')
** 13-year-old Paul discovers that he is attractive to certain soldiers in 1944.
* '''Burning Secret''' (Andrew Birkin, 1988) ('''MB''')
** An aristocrat becomes infatuated with a 12-year-old boy.
* '''Abuse''' (Arthur J. Bressan Jr., 1983) ('''MB''')
** Thomas, an effeminate 14-year-old who is physically abused by his parents, has a relationship with a 30-year-old gay man
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071013092722/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notes_on_a_Scandal_(film) Notes on a Scandal]''' (2006, Richard Eyre), based on the novel Notes on a scandal by Zoë Heller ('''WB''')
** A female teacher falls for a 15-year-old student and has sex with him.
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20081206022148/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_with_Scissors_(film) '''Running with Scissors'''], (2006,Ryan Murphy) ('''MB''')
** 12 year-old boy and 33-year-old man enter an erratic sexual realationship.
* '''Sapore del Grano''', released in the USA as '''The Flavor of Corn''' (1991, Gianni da Campo) ('''MB''')
** Lorenzo, a professor, falls under the spell of Duilio, a 12-year-old pupil.
* '''Smukke dreng''', released in the USA as '''Pretty Boy''', (1993, Carsten Sonder) ('''MB''')
** Nick, 13 year-old, fatherless, in search of father love met a professor of astronomy Ralph and a romance occurs.
* '''Me and You and Everyone we Know''' (Miranda July, 2005) ('''V''')
** The structure of the film consists of several subplots which all revolve around an intertwined cast of characters. One of the subplots involves a 6-year-old boy chatting online with an unknown person and, when both decide to meet each other face-to-face, it's revealed that the unknown person was a woman, who kisses the boy before leaving. Another subplot involves two teen girls (a 17-year-old and a 14-year-old) befriending their neighbour, an old man, and decide to practice oral sex with him. Later, when the girls want to practice sex with him, he appears to be afraid after peeking through the window, pretending to not be at home, perhaps wary of the stigma.
* '''Chechu y familia''' (Álvaro Sáenz de Heredia, 1992) ('''WB''')
**Chechu is a 13 year old boy who lives surrounded by peculiar people: his grandfather, his uncle, and two maids. He falls in love with one of them.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071124091250/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murmur_of_the_Heart Le Souffle au coeur]''', 1971, released as '''Murmur of the Heart''' in the USA and '''Dearest Love''' in the UK, directed by Louis Malle ('''WB''')
** Incest between a 15-year-old boy and his mother.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071124181546/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_virgen_de_los_sicarios La virgen de los sicarios]''', released in English as '''Our Lady of the Assassins''' (2000, Barbet Schroeder) ('''MB''')
** Fernando meets Alexis, a handsome gay youth, and immediately falls for him. According to the director, the relationship between Fernando and Alexis is patterned on Greek pederasty.
* '''Dreamchild''' (1985, Gavin Millar) ('''MG''')
** The story is based on the life of Charles Dodgson/Lewis Carroll and told from the point of view of an elderly Alice (the child who inspired Lewis Carroll's 1865 novel Alice's Adventures in Wonderland). Alice revisits her memories of the Charles Dodgson. Via flashbacks, it is insinuated that Dodgson was infatuated with Alice, and that their relationship may have had sexual overtones.
* '''For My Daughter's Honor''', also known as '''Indecent Seduction''' (1996, Alan Metzger) ('''MG''')
** Fourteen-year-old Amy has just started high school. She notices Pete, the school's biology teacher and football coach. They take a sudden interest in each other. Although Pete has a wife and family, the two begin a secret relationship.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071224155955/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Little_Girl_Who_Lives_Down_the_Lane Little Children]''', (2006, Todd Field) ('''N/A''')
** The lives of two lovelorn spouses from separate marriages, a registered sex offender, and a disgraced ex-police officer intersect as they struggle to resist their vulnerabilities and temptations
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20231031162007/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mark_%281961_film%29 The Mark]''' (1961, Guy Green) ('''N/A''')
** A film about a convicted child molester, now out of prison, who is suspected in the sexual assault of another child. Having a genuine alibi, he became a pariah in his community. The film was criticised for making a pedophile too sympathetic.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20231031163530/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Girl La Niña santa]''', released in English as '''The Holy Girl''' (2004, Lucrecia Martel) ('''MG''')
** Teenage girls and best friends Amalia and Josefina begin to explore their burgeoning sexuality while being fervently Catholic.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071219025127/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palindromes_%28film%29 Palindromes]''' (2004, Todd Solondz) ('''MG''')
** Thirteen-year-old Aviva Victor wants to be a 'mom'. She does all she can to make this happen, and comes very close to succeeding.
* '''Short Eyes''' (1977, Robert M. Young) ('''N/A''')
** A young man who is charged with child molestation is placed in New York City's infamous Tombs prison. When the other inmates in his cell block find out what he is charged with, life becomes extremely difficult for him.
* '''A Taste of Honey''' (Tony Richardson, 1961) adapted from the 1958 play of the same name by Shelagh Delaney. ('''MG''')
** 17-year-old schoolgirl Jo begins a relationship with black sailor Jimmy as she moves into a run-down area of Salford with her self-centred, promiscuous, alcoholic mother. The relationship leaves Jo pregnant and alone, as she struggles with the imminent birth.
* '''Kung Fu Master''' (Agnès Varda, 1988) ('''WB''')
** The drama stars the protagonist, Mary-Jane, befriending and flirting with her daughter's friend, 14-year-old Julien, beginning a close relationship between the two.
* '''Birth''' (Johnathan Glazer, 2004) ('''WB''')
** 30-year-old Anna makes out with a 10-year-old boy, whom she is convinced is the reincarnation of her deceased husband Sean.
* '''Manhattan''' (Woody Allen, 1979) ('''MG''')
** Twice-divorced 42-year-old comedy writer Isaac Davis dates 17-year-old Tracy. After breaking up with her, and ending up in a failed affair with his friend's mistress, he runs back to Tracy.
* '''The Lifeguard''' (Liz W. Garcia, 2013) ('''WB''')
** 30-year-old Leigh takes up her new job as a community pool lifeguard at her friend's high school, where she falls in love with the maintenance man's son, 16-year-old Jason.
* '''The Reader''' (Stephen Daldry, 2008) based on the book of the same title, written by Bernhard Schlink ('''WB''')
** In 1958 West Germany, after 15-year-old Michael Berg falls ill on his way home, he gets helped by 36-year-old tram conductor Hanna Schmitz, with whom he begins a heated but short-lived affair. Years later, he now holds a secret that only he knows.
* '''Tadpole''' (Gary Winick, 2002) ('''WB''')
** 15-year-old precocious boy Oscar Grubman tries to seduce his stepmother Eve, and has a tryst with Diane, Eve's friend.
* '''Notes on a scandal''' (Richard Eyre, 2006) ('''WB''')
** Teacher Sheba has an illicit affair with her 15-year-old student, which is discovered by her colleague Barbara. Nowhere in the movie is the boy implied to be harmed by affair.
* '''Copenhagen''' (Mark Raso, 2014) ('''MG''')
** 28-year-old William travels to Copenhagen to find out about his lost father. On the way, he develops a relationship with 14-year-old Effy, who is doing her grammar school internship at an hotel. Although William does reciprocate Effy's feelings, he still hesitates to due to her age.

* '''This is England''' (Shane Meadows, 2006) ('''WB''')
** A troubled 12-year-old boy living in 80s England becomes the member of a skinhead gang after the death of his father in the Falkland War. Among the members of the gang he meets an older woman nicknamed Smell, offering to become her boyfriend.

== Western animation ==
* '''An American Tail: The Mystery of the Night Monster''' (Larry Latham, 1999) ('''MG''')
** The protagonist’s sister tries to get in a relationship with a newspaper editor, a much older adult.
* '''Simba: è nato un re''' (Orlando Corradi, 1997) ('''MG''')
** One of the female lion cubs has a crush for an older dog, which he reciprocates, although the cub’s mother is opposed to it.

== Literature ==
* '''Lolita''' (Vladimir Nabokov, 1955) ('''MG''')
** Set in 1950s America, the story concerns a middle-aged English professor and his sexual obsession with a 12-years-old girl.
* '''The enchanter''' (Vladimir Nabokov, 1985) ('''MG''')
** A middle-aged man is conflicted by his own hebephilia, especially after his failed attempt at having sex with an adolescent girl.
* '''Laughter in the Dark''' (Vladimir Nabokov, 1938) ('''MG''')
** A relationship between a middle-aged man and a 17-year-old aspiring actress.
* '''Ada or Ador: A Family Chronicle''' (Vladimir Nabokov, 1969) ('''MG''')
** Some parts deal with hebephilia, with both protagonists beginning an incestuous affair in their early teens, as well as one of the protagonist’s half-sisters being infatuated with him when he’s 18 while the latter is 12-year-old.
* '''Transparent Things''' (Vladimir Nabokov, 1972) ('''MG''')
** The narrator describes some of the characters express their attraction over young girls. One of the sub-plots deals with a university student having a relationship with a pubescent maid.
* '''Look at the Harlequins!''' (Vladimir Nabokov, 1974) ('''MG''')
** The author’s fictional autobiography, wherein his stand-in protagonist deals with his attraction for his pubescent daughter.
* '''The Original of Laura''' (Vladimir Nabokov, 2009) ('''MG''')
** Nabokov’s unfinished manuscript, some of the passages describe a man’s obsession with an unknown pubescent girl.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080314224734/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lover%20The%20Lover The lover]''' (Marguerite Duras, 1984) ('''MG''')
** A semi-autobiographical novel recounting the author’s life in French Indochina, including her first sexual and romantic relationship with an old and rich Chinese-Vietnamese man, whilst she was 15.
* '''One Hundred Years of Solitude''' (Gabriel García Márquez, 1967) ('''MG''')
** The patriarch’s second son, a warrior figure, courts a 7-year-old girl and consummates her at 9.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071225230354/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_in_the_Time_of_Cholera Love in the time of Cholera]''' (Gabriel García Márquez, 1985) ('''MG''')
** A male in his 70s has a relationship with a 14-year-old girl.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071022132953/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memories_of_My_Melancholy_Whores Memories of My Melancholy Whores]''' (Gabriel García Márquez, 2004) ('''MG''')
** A love story between a 90-year-old man and a 14-year-old female prostitute.
* '''Of Love and Other Demons''' (Gabriel García Márquez, 1994) ('''MG''')
** A priest falls in love with a dead 12-year-old girl.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_in_Venice Death in Venice]''' ([[Thomas Mann]], 1912) ('''MB''')
** An ennobled artist in Venice becomes increasingly obsessed at the sight of a teenage Polish boy.
* '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Persian_Boy The Persian Boy]''' ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Renault Mary Renault], 1972) ('''MB''')
** Mary Renault was famous for her romantic novels on [[Pederasty]] in Ancient Greece. ''The Persian Boy'' was a bestseller within the [[Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity|Gay community]], providing a sympathetic portrait of homosexual love through a relationship between Bagoas (16) and Alexander (then about 25). Renault depicts the attachment as lasting until Alexander's death, when Bagoas would have been about 23.
* '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_the_Wine The Last of the Wine]''' ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Renault Mary Renault], 1956) ('''MB''')
** Another bestseller within the Gay community. Renault's first novel set in Ancient Greece tells the love story of Alexias, a beautiful and noble Athenian youth and Socrates' student, who is desired and pursued by a number of older males because of his beauty. Alexias falls in love with Lysis, a male champion wrestler and student of Socrates in his 20s. Alexias's father approves of their relationship, which the novel follows through important historical events, ending by hinting at the eventual trial of Socrates for teaching blasphemy and sowing social disorder.
* '''You Can Be a King If You Are Brave''' (Peter Thomas Wolfe, 2023) ('''MB''')
** An Australian charity worker falls in love with a young Burmese boy amidst the growing taboo against such relationships, contribute in big part by the former’s colleagues.
* '''[[Greek Love Through The Ages|Alexander’s Choice]]''' (Edmund Marlowe, 2012) ('''MB''')
** The book tells of the love affair of a new 13/14-years-old schoolboy and a new English master.
* '''The Fourth of June''' (David Benedictus, 1962) ('''MB''')
** The book, based on the author’s experiences whilst attending Eton college, touches upon themes of love between older and younger schoolboys.
* '''The Link: A Victorian mystery''' (Robin Maugham, 1969) ('''MB''')
** The story, centered around an investigation on a fictionalized version of the notorious Tichborne case, touches on the theme of boylove.
* '''[[My_Love_Is_Like_All_Lovely_Things_(book)|My love is like all lovely things]]''' (C. Caunter & [[Edwin_Emmanuel_Bradford|E. E. Bradford]], 2023) ('''MB''')
** A collection of boylove-themed poems.
* '''For a Lost Soldier''' (Rudi Van Dantzig, 1996) ('''MB''')
** The novel tells the story of an 11-year-old boy in the nazi-occupied Netherlands who develops a relationship with a Canadian soldier.
* '''Nude men''' (Amanda Filipacchi, 1993) ('''MG''')
** The initial plot centers on a man fighting off, then succumbing, under the seduction of an 11-year-old precocious girl.
* '''Interview with the Vampire''' (Anne Rice, 1976) ('''MG''')
** The film chronicles how two vampires turn a 10-year-old girl into one of them, with the story framed as an interview between a reporter and one of the male vampires. Some romantic undertones are present between the little girl and the interviewee.
* '''Man on Fire''' (A. J. Quinnell, 1980) ('''MG''')
** A bodyguard gradually befriends his client, a wealthy and precocious little girl. Romantic undertones are present.
* '''Fire and Hemlock''' (Diana Wynne Jones, 1984) ('''MG''')
** A fantasy story that details a love story between a young girl named Polly and Thomas Lynn, an adult man.
* '''Keepsakes and Treasures: A Love Story''' (Neil Gaiman, 2006) ('''V''')
** A short story included in Neil Gaiman’s collection of short stories and poetry, the narrator of this story (Mr. Smith) is a pedophile exclusively attracted to girls, while his boss (Mr. Alice) is a pederast. Both characters are depicted as morally grey.
* '''Past the dark field''' (Heuvel Collins, 2019) ('''V''')
** A collection of short fiction about [[NOMAP|non-offending, anti-contact minor-attracted persons]].
* '''Starfish''' (Peter Watts, 1999) ('''N/A''')
** A sci-fi novel where one of the characters is a sympathetic pedophile named Gerry Fischer. At some points, the narration follows his point of view, and it's revealed that he himself was molested as a child.
* '''35 Cents''' (Matty Lee, 2006) ('''MB''')
** 35 Cents is the story of a straight, young, white boy growing up and coming of age as he hustles his way both through the gay community and the juvenile-detention system of South Florida in the late 1980s. It s also the amount he made when he turned his first trick at 13.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071211052634/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Abomination The Abomination]''' (Paul Golding, 2000) ('''MB''')
** 9 year-old James Moore is molested by a teacher, Mr Wolfe. The boy, however, has been welcoming and indeed encouraging the master in his advances and the encounter is gentle and loving. Another master suspects what’s going on and the headmaster and James’ parents are informed, but James protects Mr Wolfe and the relationship continues past the boy’s 13th birthday.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071211230252/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_American_Boy All American Boy]''' (William J. Mann, 2005) ('''MB''')
** 14-year-old Wally Day has a sexual relationship with a man called Zandy.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071211022026/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Stein Allan Stein]''' (Matthew Stadler, 1999) ('''MB''')
** After losing his high school teaching job over an accusation of sexual abuse, a writer assumes a false identity and starts a sexual relationship with another boy in France, 15-year-old Stéphane.
* '''Apples and Pears''' (in Apples and Pears: And Other Stories) (Guy Davenport, 2015) ('''MB''')
** In the title story, a group of philosophers tries to establish an utopia in Amsterdam, harkening back to a prelapsarian world of uncomplicated sexuality and nature untarnished by human influence. The story concerns two bisexual Dutchmen, philosopher Adrian and younger painter Sander--now joined by Sander's sister Grietje and various post-pubescent boys in an assortment of socio-sexual experiments: posing nude for Sander, in all combinations; Sander/Grietje incest; pederasty; constant undressing, hugging; more painting, reading, masturbating.
* '''[https://www.greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Casimir%20Dukahz.%20The%20Asbestos%20Diary.pdf The Asbestos Diary]''' ([[Casimir Dukahz]], 1966) ('''MB''')
** A novel about BoyLove. In a humorous style full of wildly inventive wordplay, Dukahz evoked "in a fashion appropriately episodic both the bittersweet transience of boyhood and all the adolescent silliness and surprise encountered by a man constantly available for the entertainment of boys."
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071129082108/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidance Avoidance]''' (Michael Lowenthal, 2002) ('''MB''')
** 28-year-old Jeremy becomes infatuated with Max, a 14-year-old at summer camp. When Max confides in him that he has been molested by the camp director, Jeremy realises just how close he came to actually committing the same crime.
* '''Acid Row''' (Minette Walters, 2001) ('''N/A''')
** This is a story about mob psychology. When residents of a sink estate get word that a newcomer is in fact a convicted paedophile, coupled with the fact that a local 10 year old girl is missing, tempers soon start to flare. Unfortunately for all, the pedophile in question had nothing to do with the incident that incited the mob.
* '''Be Near Me''' (Andrew O'Hagan, 2006) ('''MB''')
** A priest befriends Mark and Lisa, rebellious local teenagers. Their company stirs memories of a sinful choice he once made. But their friendship also ignites the suspicions and he is accused of molesting a troubled boy.
* '''Bilal's Bread''' (Sulayman X, 2005) ('''MB''')
** Salim, now 26, has been sexually exploiting his 16-year-old younger brother Bilal since he was 9 years old. Salim treats his abuse of Bilal as a secret cultural ritual. Bilal struggles to understand his intuition that servicing his brother is wrong, while perceiving that there is something he deeply enjoys about a sexual relationship with his domineering, muscular older brother.
* '''Bom-Crioulo : the black man and the cabin boy''' (Adolfo Caminha, 1982) ('''MB''')
** A sailor falls in love with a beautiful white boy.
* '''The Boys Across the Street''' (Rick Sandford, 2000) ('''MB''')
** The riveting and often moving story of one man's obsession with a group of Yeshiva boys.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20060913000000/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Brothers_Bishop The Brothers Bishop]''' (Bart Yates, 2005) ('''MB''')
** An attractive and sexually-aware boy Simon has a sexual encounter with an adult during summer school.
* '''Burn''' (Jennifer Natalya Fink, 2003) ('''MB''')
** A middle-aged communist widow has an affair with a 13-year-old boy.
* '''The Cardiff Team''' (Guy Davenport, 1996) ('''MB''')
** Adolescent boys explore their sexuality with each other and with adults.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Coming_Storm The Coming Storm]''' (Paul Russell, 1999) ('''MB''')
** 25 year-old Tracy Parker has a love affair with Noah, a troubled 15-year-old student at a boys' prep school in upstate New York.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071103002223/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Counterfeiters The Counterfeiters]''' ([[Andre_Gide|André Gide]], 1925) ('''MB''')
** Edouard is sexually attracted to his young nephew George
* '''Crowstone (The Chronicles of Qamar)''' (Hakim Bey, aka Peter Lamborn Wilson, 1983) ('''MB''')
** A story of sorcery and boy love.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080228014346/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Color_Purple The Color Purple]''' (Alice Walker, 1982) ('''WG''')
** An adolescent girl Celie initially feels threatened by Shug who is a mistress of Celie’s abusive father. But then she realizes that she is sexually attracted to Shug. After a few years, Shug ends up helping Celie discover her sexuality as a woman and the two become lovers.
* '''Daimler''' (Pål Johan Karlsen, 2002) ('''MB''')
** A middle-aged coach gets intimately involved with a fourteen-year-old boy, the great talent in the local cross-country skiing club.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dissolution_of_Nicholas_Dee The Dissolution of Nicholas Dee]''' (Matthew Stadler, 1993) ('''MB''')
** Nicholas Dee, a young, history professor. One night, he is made the guardian of a beautiful teenaged delinquent, Oscar Vega. But the boy is a part of a scheme to ensnare Nicholas.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Boy Dream Boy]''' (Jim Grimsley, 1995) ('''MB''')
** Adolescent Nathan has a sexual relationship with Roy, an older boy who lives next door.
* '''The Dream Life''' (Bo Huston, 1992) ('''MB''')
** A 33-year-old tutor Hollis goes off with Jed, a 14-year-old pupil.
* '''The Drummer of the Eleventh North Devonshire Fusiliers''' (Guy Davenport, 1990) ('''MB''')
** Sexual relationships between teachers and adolescent boys.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Children Dream Children]''' (A. N. Wilson, 1998) ('''MG''')
** Oliver Gold, a distinguished philosopher, feels he can only be happy with a child. Oliver, makes all the ladies around him fall in love with him, including a little girl named Bobs.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080619052332/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekaterina_(novel) Ekaterina]''' (Donald Harington, 1993) ('''WB''')
** 27-year-old Ekaterina has a sexual relationship with three 12-year-old boys - Kenny, Jason and then Travis Coe.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_%28novel%29 Embrace]''' (Mark Behr, 2001) ('''MB''')
** Karl De Man, a 13-year-old pupil at an exclusive boys' school in 1970s South Africa falls in love with Dominic, a boy of his own age, whose parents know he is gay, and has a sexual relationship with his choirmaster, Jacques Cilliers.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enchanted_Boy Enchanted Boy]''' (Richie McMullen, 1989) ('''MB''')
** An autobiographical novel. At the age of 8, Richie is persuaded by a man to have sexual contact. It is the first time he realizes the power a knowing boy can have over a desperate pedophile. And then, up to his 15, he goes through the adversities of boy’s prostitution, trying to escape abuse at his home.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080323093324/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_Alice The End of Alice]''' (A. M. Homes, 1996) ('''WB''')
** A 19-year-old girl has a sexual relationship with a 12-year-old boy called Matthew and describes what she is doing in correspondence with a jailed child sexual abuser.
* '''The Elenium''' Trilogy (David Eddings, 1989) ('''MG''')
** A 12-year-old princess is used to pervert a young priest.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20120820110851/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fall_of_Doctor_Onslow The Fall of Doctor Onslow]''' (Frances Vernon, 1994) ('''MB''')
** An English public school Headmaster is sexually attracted to many of the pupils and has affairs with several of them.
* '''Fenny Skaller''' from Books of the Nameless Love (John Henry Mackay, 1988) ('''MB''')
** Fenny Skaller, a man in his forties, looks back on his life. Using photos, he relives disappointments and happy moments, remembering how he gradually realized that he loved boys between the ages of 14 and 17.
* '''Corydon''' ([[Andre_Gide|André Gide]], 1924) ('''MB''')
** The book consists of four socratic dialogues on homosexuality, with the first dialogue consisting of the author meeting his childhood friend, a man named Corydon, who tells his story. He was engaged and loved his future bride with an intense but chaste love, without passion. To disturb him further is the story of his girlfriend's brother, little more than a teenager, he too is troubled by the same unspeakable desires, he decides to confide in him, Corydon speaks to him very severely about the dangers and the social condemnation of those tendencies. After a few days the boy commits suicide by leaving a moving letter to Corydon in which he declares his love to him.
* '''Finistère''' (Fritz Peters, 1951) ('''MB''')
** Michel falls in love with 15-year-old Matthew, one of his students.
* '''Flannelled Fool''', (T. C. Worsley, 1967) ('''MB''')
** An autobiographical novel where author describes his fascination with a series of beautiful boys whom he taught as a young master.
* '''Firefly''' (Piers Anthony, 1992) ('''MG''')
** 5-year-old Nymph seduces much older Maddock, who is on trial for molesting her.
* '''Golden States''' (Michael Cunningham, 1984) ('''MB''')
** 12-year-old David has sexual encounters with a couple of men.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20060913000000/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Baby Happy Baby]''' (Stephen Elliott, 2004) ('''MB''')
** Theo is put into care aged 13 and brutally treated and sexually abused by Mr. Gracie, his caseworker, who protects him from other physical abuse.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071217131941/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hearts_In_Atlantis Hearts in Atlantis]''' (Stephen King, 1999) ('''MB''')
** The first novel in the book tells a story of 12-year-old Bobby with a neglecting mother. He became close to older man who treated him well. They have no sexual relationship as Bobby’s mother think, but after being offered $2 for oral sex by a stranger, Bobby has a strange flashback as if being kissed by Ted.
* '''The Heavenly Cupid''' (1934), '''Water Cherubs''' (1936) [https://acearchive.org/ralph-chubb and other texts] by Ralph Nicholas Chubb ('''MB''')
** The author seeks to articulate his pederastic desires by creating a personal mythology in his books.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080220210158/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogg_(novel) Hogg]''' (Samuel R. Delany, 1969) ('''MB''')
** The novel is told from the perspective of an eleven-year-old boy who joins up with "Hogg", a trucker and rapist-for-hire. The boy satisfies the extreme sexual demands of everyone around him. He describes how he enjoys all the perverted sexual acts and participates willingly in all Hogg's excesses.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20060913000000/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Honorable_Profession An Honorable Profession]''' (John L'Heureux, 1991) ('''MB''')
** A High School boy develops a crush on Miles Bannon, a popular English teacher. Miles fails to discourage it and this triggers accusations of child molestation when the boy commits suicide.
* '''The Hustler''' (John Henry Mackay, 2002) ('''MB''')
** Homeless boys try to survive on the streets in Berlin in the 1920's. Jobs are hard to find, especially for fourteen year olds. The easiest path for these boys is to fall into the hustler life style, satisfying the sexual desires of older men.
* '''Happy Endings''' (David Cook, 1989) ('''MG''')
** A series of vignettes about the lives of Morris, a 12 year old boy sent to an assessment centre after "interfering with" a 5 year old girl, and Stephen, a 33 year old schoolteacher who is attracted to teenage girls.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immoralist The Immoralist]''', (published in France as L'immoraliste) ([[Andre_Gide|André Gide]], 1902) ('''MB''')
** Michel seeks out young Arab boys.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Tall_Cotton In Tall Cotton]''' (Charles Hulse, 1987) ('''MB''')
** A boy's sexual adventures from age 7 to 14 with other children and adult men.
* '''Innocents'''(Cathy Coote, 2002) ('''MG''')
** The unnamed teenage narrator embarks on a psychosexual campaign to emotionally and sexually dominate a male schoolteacher twice her age.
* '''Josey Rose: a novel''' (Jane Wood, 1998) ('''WB''')
** A minister tries to molest 11-year-old Josey Rose who has a sexual relationship with Lily, the mysterious, beautiful young woman.
* '''Kim, My Beloved''' (Jens Eisenhardt, 1981) ('''MB''')
** This is the autobiographical story of a schoolteacher's passionate love for his boy pupil in provincial Denmark, consummated in 1962 when they were respectively thirty and fifteen.
* '''Kit''' (Alan Edward, 1982) ('''MB''')
** A man’s sexual relationship with a 12-year-old boy in an English psychiatric institute.
* '''Kite Music''' (Gary Shellhart, 1988) ('''MB''')
** Peter, an American exchange teacher, goes to Thailand and falls in love with Wichai, a 12-year-old boy.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamb_%28film%29 Lamb]''' (Bernard Mac Laverty, 1986) ('''MB''')
** Brother Sebastian (née Michael Lamb) has formed an attachment to a 12-year-old boy called Owen Kane then abducts him from a reformatory hoping to be the boy's saviour.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lantern_Bearers_%28Frame_novel%29 The Lantern Bearers]''' (Ronald Frame, 2001) ('''MB''')
** 14-year-old treble Neil Pritchard develops mutual affection with composer Euan Bone. Although Neil experiences homosexual urges toward Bone, they do not cross the line. When Neil became older Many years later, Neil discovers than Bone had sexual contact with another young boy.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Life_I_Lead_%28novel%29 The Life I Lead]''' (Keith Banner, 1999) ('''MB''')
** The novel is written from Dave’s point of view who is a pedophile and has become attracted to a number of young boys over the years and molested them. Then he becomes obsessed with 8-year-old Nathan.
* '''Livre d'Or des Textes Pédophiles: Des origines à nos jours''' (P. de Saintogne, 1991) ('''V''')
** An anthology of French literature with pedophile themes.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Dismiss_Us Lord Dismiss Us]''' (Michael Campbell, 1967) ('''MB''')
** Carleton, a bright sixth former loves Allen, a boy two years his junior. Ashley, one of the teachers, loves Carleton, and there is also a new headmaster who wants to root out moral corruption.
* '''Lovesong''' (Elizabeth Jolley, 1997) ('''N/A''')
** Dalton Foster is returned to his former community after his sentence and "a cure" in various institutions for half his life. Dalton is alone, depressed, and compulsively drawn to children.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_Without_a_Face The Man Without a Face]''' by Isabelle Holland, 1972 ('''MB''')
** Justin McLeod teaches the troubled 12-year-old Chuck. McLeod is affectionate to him, and Chuck seems to be attracted to McLeod more than to a father figure. But then it led to accusations of sexual abuse.
* '''Middle Ground''' by Ursula Zilinsky, 1970 ('''MB''')
** 14-year-old Tyl, a boy in a concentration camp, falls in love with his commander, Johannes, a senior Nazi officer, and Johannes is drawn to Tyl.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moralist The Moralist]''' by Rod Downey, 2004 ('''MB''')
** Red Rover mentors 12-year-old Jonathan and falls in love with him. Eventually, the deep friendship between man and boy develops into a sexual relationship. They both have to defend their relationship in the face of public accusations.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning_Star_%28novel%29 Morning Star]''', Volume I of the novel sequences First Born of Egypt, by Simon Raven, 1984 ('''MB''')
** Two Homosexual friends, Ptolemaeos Tunne and Jeremy Fielding, become infatuated with Marius, a 12-year-old boy, who has a nursery crush on Jeremy and persuades him to share his bed, though nothing sexual happens.
* '''A Natural Lizard Activity''' by B.J. Freedman, 1994 ('''MB''')
** A 13-year-old boy's love affair with a 31-year-old man.
* '''Never the Same Again''' by Gerald Tesch, 1956 ('''MB''')
** 13-year-old Johnny Parish has a sexual relationship with a man.
* '''Playing Soldiers in the Dark''' by Stephen Dueweke, 1992 ('''MB''')
** An 14-year-old boy is loved by his Physics teacher.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Arthur_Savile%27s_Crime_and_Other_Stories#The_Portrait_of_Mr._W._H. The Portrait of Mr. W.H.]''' by Oscar Wilde, 1891 ('''MB''')
** Puts forward the theory that some of Shakespeare's sonnets were dedicated to a beautiful boy actor called Willie Hughes
* '''The Priest: A Gothic Romance''' by Thomas M. Disch, 1995 ('''MB''')
** A priest with a history of seducing altar boys is blackmailed into getting a satanic tattoo
* '''The Priest and the Acolyte''' by John Francis Bloxam, from The Chameleon, 1894 ('''MB''')
** A short story of a tragic love between a priest and a 14-year-old acolyte.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pupil The Pupil]''' by Henry James, 1891 ('''MB''')
** Pemberton loves his 11-year-old pupil Morgan Moreen.
* '''The Photographer's Sweethearts''' by Diana Hartog, 1997 ('''N/A''')
** A novel presents a human view of a pedophile. Told from the point of view of Louie Olsen, who delight the beauty of children, seeks out and befriends them, and encourages them to take part in his liberated ideas.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer_%28novel%29 Queer]''' by William S. Burroughs, 1987 ('''MB''')
** Lee lusts after a group of 12-14 year old Mexican boys.
* '''Reasons of the Heart''' by Bron Nicholls, 1993 ('''MB''')
** Jonathan, an 11-year-old paper boy, moves with 25-year-old Fred and they live together in a sexual relationship for 5 years.
* '''Return to Innocence''' by Gary M. Frazier, 2011 ('''N/A''')
** A 13-year old boy is taken into care after sexual abuse and then accuses his psychologist of abuse. Inside look at the processes and agendas involved in the prosecution of child sex abuse case.
* '''Rolling the R's''' by R. Zamora Linmark, 2016 ('''MB''')
** 10-year-old Edgar, an openly gay boy, has a sexual relationship with the school caretaker.
* '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gambril_Nicholson#The_Romance_of_a_Choir-Boy The Romance of a Choir Boy]''' by John Gambril Nicholson, 1916 (reprinted in 2013) ('''MB''')
** A young Anglican curate develops a chaste but intensely romantic affection for twelve-year-old local boy with a beautiful singing voice.
* '''A Room in the Woods''' by Patrick Drevet, 1991 ('''MB''')
** A sexual relationship between a young man and a 12/13-year-old boy.
* '''Roger Fishbite''' by Emily Prager, 1999 ('''MG''')
** Roger develops sexual relationship with Lucky, his eleven year-old step-daughter.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandel Sandel]''' by Angus Stewart, 1968 ('''MB''')
** David Rogers, a 19-year-old student, falls in love with 13-year-old Antony Sandel and they have a sexual relationship.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sex_Offender:_A_Novel The Sex Offender]''' by Matthew Stadler, 1994 ('''N/A''')
** A man who has sexually abused a 12-year-old boy is subjected to perverse, surreal forms of aversion therapy.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare%27s_Boy Shakespeare's Boy]''' by Casimir Dukahz, 1991 ('''MB''')
** 13-year-old Ruy is a boy actor playing female roles like Juliet and is portrayed as a willing participant in his sexual adventures.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorcerer%27s_Apprentice_%28novel%29 The Sorcerer's Apprentice]''' by François Augiéras, 1964 ('''MB''')
** An adolescent boy is sent to live with a 35-year-old priest, who becomes his mentor. He abuses him physically and sexually, but the boy willingly accepts his 'punishment.' Also, the adolescent falls in love with another boy, and the priest guides him how to love.
* '''Spur Piece''' from Derricks, 1951, a collection of short stories by James Barr (pseudonym of James Fugaté) ('''MB''')
** A relationship, set in 1946, between Tom, recently discharged from the US Navy and 13-year-old Chris who works on the family farm. Tom suppresses his sexual feelings for four years.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinner_%28novel%29 Sinner]''' from The Wayfarer Redemption trilogy by Sara Douglass, 1997 ('''MG''')
** Zenith, a powerful magician, is seduced by StarDrifter, his 11-year-old granddaughter.
* '''A Table of Green Fields: Ten Stories''' by Guy Davenport, 1993 ('''MB''')
** 12-year-old boys explore their sexuality with each other and with adults.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terre_Haute_%28novel%29 Terre Haute]''' by Will Aitken, 1989 ('''MB''')
** 14 year-old Jared loves Julian, the new curator of the local museum, and allows to sex happen.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_of_our_Darkness Time of our Darkness]''' by Stephen Gray, 1989 ('''MB''')
** The story of a homosexual teacher in 1980s Apartheid South Africa and his relationships with his long-term partner and a fourteen year old black boy.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touched Touched]''' by Scott Campbell, 1996 ('''MB''')
** Jerry Houseman is in love with 12-year-old Robbie and doesn't understand why the rest of the world can't accept that the boy loves him back.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tricky_Part_:_One_Boy%27s_Fall_from_Trespass_into_Grace The Tricky Part : One Boy's Fall from Trespass into Grace]''', an autobiographical novel, by Martin Moran, 2005 ('''MB''')
** Between the age of 12 and 15, Martin Moran had a sexual relationship with Bob Doyle, a Vietnam Veteran. Moran is ambivalent about that.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_Box Treasure Box]''' by Orson Scott Card, 1996 ('''WG''')
** Rowena, an eleven-year-old witch, assumes the appearance of an adult woman through magic. Not knowing her true nature, Quentin, a thirty-five-year-old virgin, falls in love with her, has intercourse with her, and marries her.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Until_I_Find_You Until I Find You]''' by John Irving, 2006 ('''WB''')
** Five-year-old Jack is educated at girl’s school. He has relationships with older women, who initiate him into erotic life.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_We_Do_Is_Secret What We Do Is Secret]''' by Thorn Kief Hillsbery,2005 ('''MB''')
** Rockets was ten years old when he first met young man Darby Crash, lead singer of LA punk band The Germs. He had sexual relationships with Darby and his friend Blitzer
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Jonathan_Died When Jonathan Died]''' by [[Tony Duvert]], 1978 ('''MB''')
** Jonathan is a 27-year-old artist who befriends a single mother and her six-year-old son, Serge. Serge is aged 8, when Jonathan starts a romantic and sexual relationship with him. After a break, when Serge is 10, relationship continues, and the boy begins making sexual demands of his own.
* '''Wake of the Raven''' by Graham Worthington, 2007 ('''MG''')
** An ex-soldier is isolated with a precocious 11-year-old girl. The story tells of his struggle to resist sexual entanglement.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Oleander White Oleander]''' by Janet Fitch, 1999 ('''MG''')
** 14 year-old female character is implied to have had sexual relations with her male foster carer.
* '''The Reader''' (Bernhard Schlink, 1995) ('''WB''')
** The book, a parable on how the post-war generation of Germany should deal with Nazi war crimes, tells the story of 15-year-old Michael Berg, who gets helped on his way home by 36-year-old illiterate tram conductor Hanna Schmitz. Afterwards, they begin an emotionally distant but physically close affair that goes on for months. Years later, he holds Hanna's secret and must decide whether or not to reveal it.
* '''Tampa''' (Alissa Nutting, 2012) ('''WB''')
** The novel recounts middle school teacher (and hebephile) Celeste Price, her obsession with pubescent boys, as well as her seduction of one of her students, 14-year-old Jack Patrick.

== Non-fiction literature ==
* '''The Death of Narcissus''' by Morris Fraser, 1976 ('''N/A''')
** The author examines pedophilia through the works of Henry James, Forrest Reid, J.M. Barrie, and many others, with an in depth analyses of the underlying pedophilic nature or sexual symbolism of Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, The Turn of the Screw and more.
* '''Autobiography of an Englishman by "Y"''', 1975 ('''N/A''')
** It chronicles the life of a homosexual man who was born in the 1920s. A sexually repressive environment at home and at public school negatively impacted his sexuality and psychological well-being
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britten%27s_Children Britten's Children]''' by John Bridcut, 2006 ('''MB''')
** The composer Benjamin Britten's obsessional, yet innocent, relationships with young boys.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_From_The_Shadows Escape From The Shadows]''' by Robin Maugham, 1972 ('''MB''')
** Maugham describes the night-time activities of pre-war pedophile Prep school masters
* '''The Full Monty: [https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Montgomery%2C_1st_Viscount_Montgomery_of_Alamein Montgomery of Alamein]''', 1887-1942 Vol 1 by Nigel Hamilton ('''MB''')
** Field Marshal Montgomery's platonic love for young men and boys including 12-year-old Lucien Trueb, with whom he corresponded for many years.
* '''[https://www.attalus.org/poetry/anth12.html Book Twelve]''' of the Greek Anthology translated by W.R.Paton, 1916 ('''MB''')
** Contains explicit poetry and epigrams on boy love.
* '''If it die''' by [[Andre_Gide|André Gide]], 2001 (published in France in 1902 as ''Si le grain ne meurt'') ('''MB''')
** Gide's unapologetic account of his awakening homosexual desire.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080323103607/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moab_Is_My_Washpot Moab is My Washpot]''' by Stephen Fry, 1997 ('''MB''')
** 14-year-old Fry becomes besotted with 13-year-old boy and is also seduced by a prefect Oliver Derwent.
* '''The Real Tadzio: [[Thomas Mann]]'s Death in Venice and the Boy Who Inspired It''' by Gilbert Adair, 2003 ('''MB''')
** The story of Mann's infatuation with a beautiful 11-year-old Polish boy.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%2C_The_Flesh_and_Myself The World, The Flesh and Myself]''' by [[Michael Davidson]], 1962 ('''MB''')
** Davidson describes how he sought out young boys and adolescents for sex in 1930s London.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Some_Boys Some Boys]''' by Michael Davidson, 1970 ('''MB''')
** Davidson's follow up to The World, The Flesh and Myself
* '''L'enfant Au Masculin''' by [[Tony Duvert]], 1980 ('''N/A''')
** Author calls to unity of homosexuals and pedophiles and to sexual rights of children.
* '''[[Erotic Innocence|Child-Loving]]''' by [[James Kincaid|James R. Kincaid]], 1992 ('''N/A''')
** Child Loving traces the growth of the Victorian and modern conceptions of the body, the child, sexuality, and the stories we tell about them.
* '''[[Erotic Innocence]]: The culture of child molesting''' by [[James Kincaid|James R. Kincaid]], 1998 ('''N/A''')
** James R. Kincaid explores contemporary America’s preoccupation with stories about the sexual abuse of children.
* '''Loving Boys''' by [[Edward Brongersma]], 1986 (vol.1) and 1990 (vol. 2) ('''MB''')
** Loving Boys is the culmination of a lifetime’s work by Edward Brongersma about man-boy love.
* '''Male Intergenerational Intimacy: Historical, Socio-Psychological, and Legal Perspectives''' by [[Theo Sandfort]], 1991 ('''MB''')
** New historical, legal, sociological, psychological, and cross-disciplinary research on male intergenerational intimacy.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balthus Balthus]''' by Nicholas Fox Weber, 1999 ('''MG''')
** Describes Balthus' erotic paintings of very young girls in works such as such as The Guitar Lesson.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casanova Casanova]'s Women: The Great Seducer and the Women He Loved''' by Judith Summers, 2006 ('''MG''')
** Casanova tries to seduce his own 10-year-old daughter
* '''Remembering Satan''' by Lawrence Wright, 1995 ('''N/A''')
** The true story of Paul Ingram and the controversy over sex abuse convictions based on recovered memories.
* Books on Michael Jackson's relationships with boys include: ('''MB''')
** '''All That Glitters: The Crime and the Cover-up''' by Raymond Chandler, 2004
** '''Be Careful Who You Love: Inside the Michael Jackson Case''' by Diane Dimond, 2009
** '''Michael Jackson: The Man behind the Mask''' by Bob Jones and Stacy Brown, 2010
** '''Michael Jackson Was My Lover: The Secret Diary of Jordie Chandler''' by Victor M. Gutierrez, 1998
** '''Redemption: The Truth Behind the Michael Jackson Child Molestation Allegations''' by Geraldine Hughes, 2004
* '''[[Tiger, Tiger: A Memoir]]''' (Margaux Artemia Fragoso, 2011) ('''MG''')
** The author recollects her tumultuous sexual relationship with an elderly man, which began when she was 7.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teardrops_on_My_Drum Teardrops on My Drum]''', an autobiographical novel, by Jack Robinson, 1998 ('''MB''')
** A Memoir of Robinson’s sexually precocious boyhood. He searches the city for adventure, love and sex, and joins the army as a fourteen-year-old boy soldier.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080122153853/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_with_Scissors_%28memoir%29 Running with Scissors]''' by Augusten Burroughs, 2002 ('''MB''')
** 12-year-old Burroughs is sent to live with his mother's psychiatrist Dr. Finch when his parents separate. Burroughs has an extended sexual relationship, aged 13 to 15, with Neil Bookman, the 33-year-old adopted son of the psychiatrist.
* '''[https://www.boywiki.org/en/A_Dangerous_Love_(book) A Dangerous Love]''' by Stephen Nicholson and edited by Edmund Marlowe (author of Alexander's Choice), 2023 ('''MB''')
** It is a memoir which gives an account of his life as a boylover.
* '''The Trucker and The Teens''': Volume 1 by Colantuono, Louis A., 1984. [https://greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Colantuono.Trucker.pdf PDF]. [https://greek-love.com/index.php/biographies/reviews-authors-a-b/colantuono-louis-a-the-trucker-and-the-teens Review]. ('''MB''')
** Five years of the hectic life on the road of a Californian, written while in prison for his considerable sexual activity with boys.
* '''Teardrops on My Drum''' by Jack Robinson, 1986. [https://greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Robinson.Jack.'Teardrops.on.My.Drum'.pdf PDF]. [https://greek-love.com/index.php/biographies/reviews-authors-p-z/jack-robinson-teardrops-on-my-drum-pederasty Review]. ('''MB''')
** The eye-opening autobiography down to the age of fourteen of a poor but high-spirited boy sexually involved with men and other boys from the age of eleven. Set mostly in Liverpool in the early 1930s.
* '''Jack and Jamie Go to War''' by Jack Robinson, 1988. [https://greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Robinson.Jamie.pdf PDF]. ('''MB''')
** A continuation of Robinson's story as a soldier and lover from 1937 until the end of the 2nd World War, aged 15 to 24, during which time he made the classical Greek transition from beloved to lover of adolescent boys. Not nearly as remarkable a story as its predecessor.
* '''The North China Lover''' (Marguerite Duras, 1991) ('''MG''')
** The events described in her previous novel, The Lover, is retold in third person style, allowing the author to recount her first love in a more autobiographical and detached way.

== Comics ==
* '''Chester the Molester''' (Dwaine B. Tinsley, 1976-1989) ('''MG''')
** A comedic strip for the magazine Hustler, centred around a man molesting little girls in absurd ways.
* '''Le Petit Spirou''' (Tome and Janry, 1987-present) ('''WB''')
** A spin-off imagining Spirou's childhood. Features lots of sex comedy, with many of the jokes involving boys and women in erotic situations.
* '''Titeuf''' (Zep, 1992-present) ('''WB''')
** The stories center around how children perceive the adult world, with some of the jokes involving boys like the titular character trying to get laid with women like the schools nurse.
* '''All Princesses Die Before Dawn''' (Zuttion Quentin, 2022) ('''MG''')
** A sub-plot involves the protagonist's teenage sister, Cam, having a secret relationship with a much older man from college, although they break up by the end of the comic.

== TV shows (live action) ==
* '''Pehredaar Piya Ki''' (Amandeep Singh & Huma Pawan Singh, 2017) ('''WB''')
** A young boy inherits his family’s fortune but needs to marry a woman 9 years his senior first.
* '''Jhansi Ki Rani''' (Abhimanyu Singh, 2009-2011) ('''MG''')
** Historical drama based on the life of Indian national hero Lakshmi Bai, the Rani of Jhansi, who married Gangadhar Rao Newalkar, king of Jhansi, at the age of 14.
* '''Black Mirror''' (3x03 Shut Up and Dance) (James Watkins, 2016) ('''N/A''')
** The episode focuses on a pedophile who is blackmailed by hackers who record footage of him masturbating to child pornography. They use this footage to force him to perform a series of tasks escalating in their seriousness and ending with a fight to the death against another offending pedophile. Despite following their orders, his secret is revealed, and the episode ends when he is confronted by police. This portrayal stands out because the protagonist is portrayed as sympathetic and the audience is supposed to root for him, with his attraction to children only being revealed at the end.
* '''Picket Fences''' (David E. Kelley, 1992-1996)
** 1x13 (Oz Scott, 1992) ('''MG'''): Sheriff Jimmy Brock wants to arrest a 19-year-old man for statutory rape after having sex with his daughter Kimberly. The episode discusses some of the issues surrounding age of consent laws with nuance.
** 1x14 (Michael Schultz, 1993) ('''WB'''): Matthew dreams of sheriff’s deputy Maxine flashing her breasts to him in a non-explicit scene, said dream being interrupted after the boy got an erection.
* '''Once and again''' (Edward Zwick & Marshall Herskovitz, 1999-2002) ('''MG''')
** A high school student and regular character pursues a romantic relationship with her teacher, with him reciprocating her affections.
* '''Shameless''' (Paul Abbott, 2011-2021) ('''V''')
** The first season of the American adaptation of British TV show Shameless features a consensual relationship between a middle-aged man and a 15-year-old boy. It also shows one of the protagonists, a middle-aged man, being attracted to a 15-year-old girl, but not acting on this attraction despite her advances towards him. She eventually rapes him while he is under the influence of drugs and thus unable to fight back, and other characters, especially one of his sons, then assume that he raped her. In the second season, he is investigated by police, but the investigation is dropped when she reveals that she was the one who took advantage of him, not the other way around.
* '''A Teacher''' (Hannah Fidell, 2020) ('''WB''')
** Set in the span of 10 years, this crime series follows an English high school teacher woman in her early 30s and her 17-year-old student boy as they begin a hidden illicit relationship.

== Anime and manga ==

:''See also [[Lolicon]]''

* '''Kodomo no Jikan''' ('''MG''')
** A comedy revolving around a precocious 9 year old girl’s determined attempts at seducing her 23-year-old teacher.
* '''Cardcaptor Sakura''' ('''MG''')
** A secondary character, an elementary school girl, begins a romance with her male teacher.
* '''Narutaru''' ('''MG''')
** By the end of the manga, the female protagonist is already in the first year of junior high and begins a relationship with one of her allies, a young man.
* '''The Ancient Magus’ bride''' ('''MG''')
** An ancient mage buys a slave, a 16-year-old girl, and takes her under his wing as his apprentice and bride.
* '''Higehiro''' ('''MG''')
** A man develops feelings for a 16-years-old runaway girl that he takes in.
* '''A bride’s story/Otoyomegatari''' ('''WB''')
** Set in the backdrop of the Russian conquest of Central Asia, the series follows the relationship between a 20-year-old young woman and her husband 8 years her junior, as they struggle to keep their living-hood amidst the imperial Russian army’s advance.
* '''Domestic girlfriend''' ('''WB''')
** A teenage boy becomes entangled in a love triangle, with one of the crushes being his teacher.
* '''Loveless''' ('''V''')
** The main character, a pubescent boy, begins a romantic relationship with an adult man as they struggle to survive in a hostile world. There also other age-gap yaoi and yuri relationships.
* '''Happy Sugar Life''' ('''WG''')
** Centers on a relationship between teenage girl Satou Matsuzaka and a 7-year-old girl Shio Kōbe, whom she becomes deliriously obsessed with.
* '''After the rain''' ('''MG''')
** A 17-years-old girl struggles with her feelings for a man more than 20 years her senior.
* '''Oku-sama wa Joshi Kosei''' ('''MG''')
** A married 17-year-old girl must wait until graduation before she can have sex with her husband, her own teacher.
* '''Negima! Magister Negi Magi''' ('''WB''')
** Throughout the story’s course, 10-year-old teacher Negi has many romantic relationships, including with much older girls.
* '''Ore Wa Lolicon Ja Nai!''' ('''MG''')
** A male teacher must deal with many elementary school girls infatuated with him, especially an 11-year-old time traveller that wants to marry him.
* '''Furuya-Sensei Wa An-Chan no mono''' ('''MG''')
** A 1st year high school girl falls in love for the first time with her teacher.
* '''Hanayomesama wa 16-sai''' ('''MG''')
** After her mother’s death, a 16-year-old girl must be married to a rich man 5 years her senior as part of her mother’s will.
* '''Aoi-san wa 16-sai toshishita''' ('''MG''')
** A comedy following a baker in his late 20s trying to court an elementary schoolgirl.
* '''Oshite Dame nara Oshite miro!''' ('''MG''')
** A girl who is only romantically attracted to snakes falls in love with her teacher.
* '''Ora, Yomekko sa ikuda! Cosplay JK no Himitsu no Aijou''' ('''MG''')
** A 15-year-old girl must wait until she’s 16 before she can marry her art teacher.
* '''Oshieko Kara Nigerarenai''' ('''MG''')
** A diligent high-school girl and a lazy teacher begin a romantic relationship.
* '''Junsui adolescence''' ('''WG''')
** A romantic but difficult relationship between a diligent high school girl and the school nurse ensues.
* '''News Na Kare!''' ('''MB''')
** The story is about the budding relationship between an actor and his crush, a high-school boy.
* '''Sensei to Watashi''' ('''MG''')
** A 16-year-old girl substitutes for her sister at an arranged meeting and ends up falling in love with her new home room teacher.
* '''OhoShisama ni Onegai!''' ('''MG''')
** The series follows the blossoming relationship between a junior high tomboy and her former beloved childhood neighbour, now her 23-year-old class advisor.
* '''Yankee Shota to Otaku Onee-san''' ('''WB''')
** A shy otaku starts to have feelings for her neighbour’s child, an 11-year-old delinquent.
* '''Inaka ni Kaeru to Yakeni Jiben ni Natsuita Kasshoku''' ('''MB''')
** A slice-of-life comedy following a university student and his relationship with his younger cousin.
* '''Shota x Oni''' ('''MB''')
** The story follows an elementary school boy and his feelings for his best friend that he feels protective of, a high schooler.
* '''Sasaki and Miyano''' ('''MB''')
** A delinquent high school senpai tries to get closer with a feisty kouhai, with their friendship gradually becoming romantic.
* '''Speed Grapher''' ('''MG''')
** The series follows a 33-year-old war photographer using his powers, found after being kissed by a 15-year-old girl, to save the girl from the clutches of the head of a powerful secret club.
* '''Wataten''' ('''WG''')
** A shy college student becomes smitten by her younger sister’s classmate and begins having her dress up in cosplay in exchange for snacks. The series follows the student as she grows closer to the classmate and her other friends.
* '''Oneesan wa Joshi Shougakusei ni Kyoumi ga Arimasu''' ('''WG''')
** The comedic story about a high school teacher, who happens to be a pedophile, and the girl she babysits with her roommate!
* '''Ichigo Mashimaro''' ('''WG''')
** The story tells of the adventure of four elementary school girls and their older sister-figure Nobue, who is suggested to derive sensual pleasure from seeing the girls playing, making Nobue appear as a moe enthusiast.
* '''Ryūō no Oshigoto!''' ('''MG''')
** A prodigy shogi player takes a 9-year-old girl with as his disciple and the two brace themselves together in the world of shogi, making friends and rivals. The young girl is very possessive of her master, displaying yandere traits.
* '''Niehime to Kemono no Ō''' ('''MG''')
** The king of beasts and demons, intrigued by one of his sacrificial humans, a young girl with nothing left to live for, decides to take her as his consort and make her queen of his kingdom.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071219025127/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokusatsu_Tenshi_Dokuro-chan Bokusatsu Tenshi Dokuro-chan]''', literally translated as '''Club-To-Death Angel''' ('''MG''')
** It's a fiction series written by Masaki Okayu from which an anime version was created. A young boy stops girls aged 12 from maturing and is accused of creating a pedophile's heaven.
* '''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071219025127/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_%28anime%29 Dragon Ball]''' ('''MB''')
** It is the first part of the anime adaptation of the Dragon Ball manga written by Akira Toriyama. Blue displays sexual interest towards a young boy.
* '''Toshiba elite onna kishi ga boku no mae de dake kawaii''' ('''WB''')
** 16-year-old Haru, recruit of the "Black Hawk" 4th Cavalry Unit of the knights' regiment, teases his virgin captain Karen in a bid to steal her heart.
* '''Kiss in the Dark''' ('''MB''')
** Mira Munakata is a first-year high school student involved in a romantic and sexual relationship with his adoptive father, a famous actor named Kyōsuke Munakata.
* '''Super Lovers''' ('''MB''')
** This shounen-ai series follows the relationship between 16-year-old adopted family member Haru Kaidō and his 8-year-old step-brother, Ren Kaidō, which gradually becomes more romantic as the series progresses.
* '''Koi Kaze''' ('''MG''')
** Twenty-eight-year-old Koshiro Saeki, who lives with his divorced father Zenzo, is dumped by his girlfriend. While on a train the morning after, he sees 15-year-old high school student Nanoka Kohinata. As they get to Zenzo's house, they're shocked to discover that they're siblings. Even when realising the truth, their feelings for each other do not go away, no matter what they do. At the end, they decide to continue their relationship.

== Documentaries ==
* '''Freiheit fur die Liebe''' (Eberhard & Phyllis Kronhausen, 1969) ('''MG''')
** The first part deals with issues surrounding age of consent laws, through the prism of a man having to hide his sexual relationship with a 16-year-old girl.
* '''[[Are All Men Pedophiles?]]''' (Jan-Willem Breure, 2012) ('''MG''')
** The documentary discusses pedophilia, hebephilia and ephebophilia and how society conflates and demonises all three forms of attraction, with adverse results.
* '''[[I, Pedophile]]''' (Matthew Campea, 2016) ('''V''')
** A documentary looking into the lives of [[NOMAP|non-offending MAPs]] and their various issues.
* '''The Paedophile Next Door''' (Rudolph Herzog, 2014) ('''V''')
** Similar to [[I, Pedophile]], featuring experts from the NSPCC, Metropolitan Police and preventionist scholar, Sarah Goode among others.
* '''Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys''' (Adi Sideman, 1994) ('''MB''')
** The documentary recounts the history of NAMBLA, showcasing the organisation's photos and bulletins, as well as profiling its members as they discuss relationships between adult men and boys below the age of consent. Allen Ginsberg is also featured, reciting a poem dedicated to youth.

== Musicals and theatre ==
* '''[[Romeo and Juliet]]''' (William Shakespeare, 1597)
** Although Juliet is specified as being 13 years old, Romeo's age is not given, but it has been speculated that he may be much older, possibly over 20.
* '''Death in Venice''' (Benjamin Britten, 1973) ('''MB''')
** A theatrical adaptation of Mann’s novella of the same name.
* '''The Vagina Monologues''' (Eve Ensler, 1996) ('''WG''')
** A section of the play, titled “The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could” recounts the experience of a 13-year-old girl’s relationship with a much older woman.
* '''[[Downstate]]''' (Bruce Norris, 2018) ('''V''')
** A thought-provoking play following the daily lives of convicted child molesters living in a group home, with one act having one of the victims (now a rich young man) confront its abusers, with the former being portrayed negatively.
* '''Faust''' (Charles Gounod, 1859) ('''MG''')
** In the first part, the protagonist of the play falls in love with a 14-year-old girl and employs the help of the devil to pursue a relationship with her. Both her mother and brother die because of disapproving of the relationship. The girl eventually gets pregnant and ends up drowning her new born, for which she gets convicted and goes to prison. When the protagonist tries to rescue her, she refuses, and subsequently voices from heaven announce that she shall be saved.
* '''Erl-king''' (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1782) ('''MB''')
** A famous ballad written by about the death of a young boy. Before his death, the boy claims to see a supernatural entity which he calls Erl-King, who tries to convince him to give up on his life. Though many aspects of this ballad are up for interpretation, pedophilic themes are referenced, especially in the line "I love thee, I'm charm'd by thy beauty, dear boy / And if thou'rt unwilling, then force I'll employ”. The idea that the Erl-King could have been attracted to the boy, and the boy’s death as a possible metaphor for sexual abuse, seem likely considering Goethe himself described feeling attraction to young boys.
* '''Madama Butterfly''' (Giacomo Puccini, 1782) ('''MG''')
** Set in 1904 Japan, it tells a tragic love affair between a 15-year-old Geisha and an American naval officer who’s marrying her for convenience but regrets his choice later.
* '''Miss Saigon''' (Claude-Michel Schönberg and Alain Boublil, 1989) ('''MG''')
** A retelling of Madama Butterfly set in 1970s Saigon amidst the Vietnam war, it tells of a doomed romance between a United States marine and a 17-year-old south Vietnamese bargirl.
* '''A taste of Honey''' (Shelagh Delaney, 1958) ('''MG''')
** Belonging to the kitchen sink realism genre of British theatre, the play tells the story of 15-year-old white working-class teenage schoolgirl Jo, as she is left alone in the new house by her tarty and lecherous mother. Jo begins a relationship with a black sailor Jimmy, which leaves her pregnant. But Jimmy must leave as he is a navy member, telling her that he'll return.

== Video games ==
* '''Bernd and the mystery of Unteralterbach''' ('''MG''')
** A visual novel where an adult male NEET must uncover the mysteries surrounding a small German town. Pedophilia is discussed in the story.
* '''Dorei to no Seikatsu – Teaching Feeling –''' (FreakilyCharming, 2015) ('''MG''')
** The game is about a doctor becoming with a young slave girl, and the player’s decision will determine the doctor’s personality.
* '''Nekopara''' (NEKO WORKs, 2014) ('''MG''')
** An eroge taking place in a world where humans coexist with catgirls, the VN series follows the protagonist working with catgirls at a café, with the protagonist romancing two of the catgirls that are 12 years old in human years.
* '''Musume Seikatsu''' (Fiction7) ('''MG''')
** A “raise-you-daughter” + dating simulator, with the range of interactions (including sexual) expanding as the intimacy between the girl and the player increases.
* '''Shoujo Kyouiku''' (Tanuki Soft) ('''MG''')
** A newly transferred teacher at a girl’s school in his thirties befriends three of his students with communication problems, and a ghost.
* '''Bosei ~Mama Club~''' (Complet’s) ('''WB''')
** Main character has dreams about his mother-in-law. One day he forgets his homework and school and comes later to pick it up. Inside school building he sees secret act of a school boy committing a woman that suits to be his mother. Next day he is invited to school infirmary and given offer to join "Mama club" that connects young male students and mature women.
* '''Byakko no Kamikakushi''' (Kizaruya) ('''WB''')
** In a strange summer village festival, a boy separated from his friend is seduced by a spirit in the form of a fox-woman.
* '''Damegane''' (10mile) ('''WB''')
** Takuto starts living at his cousin's house because of some reasons. There are three daughters, Tooko, Chikako and Ranko. He meets them for the first time in several years, but they are now all unsophisticated. Well, their battle for Takuto starts now!
* '''Batman: Arkham Origins''' (Warner Bros. Games, 2013) ('''MG''')
** The action-adventure game features cutscenes of a 15-year-old Barbara Gordon arguing with her father over Batman, as well as her helping Batman in one of his mission and promising to help him next time, with the scene having some romantic undertones,

== Music and music videos ==

This is fully documented at [[Music featuring attraction to minors]].

==External links==

Other sites document the topic of minors in film and TV, outside of the MAP context.

*[https://www.first-loves.net/forums/index.php First Love Movies]
*[https://www.youthincinema.com/ Youth in Cinema] - And its associated network.

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Special Article: Adverse effects of hysteria

2024-02-16T19:12:15Z

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<div style="margin-left: 25px; float: right; width: 400px">__TOC__</div>Moral panics pertaining to [[Child|children]], sexuality and [[Minor Attracted Person|minor attracted people]], don't only cost the taxpayer money,<ref>[https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/04/30/2018-09062/annual-determination-of-average-cost-of-incarceration Federal register: Annual determination of cost of incarceration]</ref> but have many '''unintended or otherwise negative''' consequences - especially for minors. While the obsession with Sex Offenders and creating [[Sexceptionalism|"special laws"]] for them stretches back many decades,<ref name=DeOrio>[https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/138757/sadeorio_1.pdf De Orio's Dissertation: Punishing Queer Sexuality in the Age of LGBT Rights] and [[Media:Sadeorio 1.pdf|backup]]</ref> we list just a few 21st century news sources as examples, and are well aware that we must have neglected many more recent examples, which you may alert us to. We try instead to present the breadth of unintended consequences related to the war on Sex Offenders. Other sites are more thorough, for example:
*[https://on-murders.blogspot.com/ Sex Offender Research: Murder]
*[https://on-suicides-deaths.blogspot.com/ Sex Offender Research: Suicide]
The inconsequential nature of many acts that might force a person to register as a sex offender has not only been attacked by [[SOL Reform]] activists, but increasingly mainstream charities and the media:
*[http://solresearch.org/report/Look_Whos_on_Registry_Now SOL Research: Look who's on the Registry]
*'''VIDEO:''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWPtAJS1kro Shawna: A Life on the Sex Offender Registry]
We have also compiled a few examples of [[Special Article: Abuse of authority|abuse of authority]] on a separate page (some examples are in the gallery below).

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==Murder and suicide==

{{Template:Lists}}The number of suicides and murders that have taken place as a result of [[SOR]]s and general sex-offender panic, run well into the hundreds per year (perhaps more) and are hard to document. Ambiguity concerning the scale of these wrongs, is in part due to the threat this information poses to America's prison/security-industrial complex and corrupted legal system. [[Louis Conradt|Bill Conradt]] - a man who was effectively hounded to death by a TV crew<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20080129023825/http://www.esquire.com/features/predator0907 Esquire: Tonight on Dateline This Man Will Die]</ref> is perhaps the best known victim of America's punitive obsession with sexual offending.

===Suicide===

:''Unaffiliated site: [http://sexoffenderissues.blogspot.com/search/label/Suicide SOI/Suicide]''.

Suicide is a common result of sex-laws. While documenting the full extent of sex-law suicides is not a project Newgon are working on right now due to our poor staffing, we would like to see a research project initiated within the next few decades after the unjust laws themselves have been eliminated. Others have already collected thousands of examples on various blogs listed in this article and affiliated with the [[SOL Reform]] Movement.

*'''[https://amapin.love/2023/06/16/banned-by-reddit-for-offering-support-to-a-map-in-crisis/ Banned by Reddit for offering support to a MAP in crisis.] (2023)'''
*:''"A few days ago, I was directed to a Reddit post where someone was suicidal because they realized they were attracted to children. I created an account on Reddit and posted a reply with all sorts of resources to help. Next day, I log in, and I’m permabanned from that Subreddit. No reason given. I appealed to the mods, and got no reply. I started attempting to message the user in crisis directly to offer them support, but it wouldn’t let me send messages. After sharing the screenshots on the fediverse, a user attempted to lookup my account, only to find that my account wasn’t accessible, thus meaning I am shadowbanned.”"''

*'''[https://dentonrc.com/news/new-details-emerge-on-man-who-died-after-hearing-guilty-verdict-in-denton-county/article_02d7ab75-a394-5250-89ff-0a8a17bb938c.html New details emerge on man who died after hearing guilty verdict in Denton County] (2022)'''
*:''"Shortly after the guilty verdict was announced in the 16th District courtroom, he began chugging what appeared to be murky water, according to people familiar with the case. At the suggestion of a county investigator, a bailiff checked on and found Leclair unresponsive in the holding cell next to the courtroom. ''[...]'' His victim had posted an ad under the personal section on Craigslist, according to the July 19, 2018, search warrant affidavit. Leclair, a corporate recruiter, replied to the ad, met with the victim and drove to a hotel where they had sex. He gave her $200, and she sent him a nude photograph via email. After their initial encounter, the victim told Leclair she was 14. Leclair continued to communicate with her for sex. According to the search warrant, they had three additional sexual encounters between them, one of which occurred at Leclair’s residence in Frisco. Two years later, in May 2019, Leclair’s girlfriend, Melody “Mel” Shae, discovered Leclair’s communication with the victim. She met with the victim — the victim said Shae had threatened her — and told her Leclair was, according to the search warrant affidavit, “grooming her.”"''

*'''[http://www.mercurynews.com/crime/ci_10290595?nclick_check=1 Feds push child-porn cases; penalty can be years in prison] (2008)'''
*:''"In the Bay Area alone, five defendants facing child-porn charges have committed suicide over the past two years. This year, on the eve of a court appearance on child-porn charges in the spring, one of the defendants, Los Gatos businessman George Halldin was found dead in his car inside a burning warehouse. Authorities ruled it a suicide."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080701221828/http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,23867394-2761,00.html Teacher charged with sex offence commits suicide] (2008)'''
*:''"A RESPECTED Perth school-teacher committed suicide within hours of being charged with child sex offences. Jeff Cahill, 48, was the head of science at Carmel School, a Jewish college in Dianella. He was a finalist last year for the esteemed $50,000 Premier's Prize for Excellence in Secondary Science Teaching. Mr Cahill took his life on Friday, June 6, after detectives searched his home the previous day and charged him with child sex offences. Police were investigating allegations about sexual activities with a 15-year-old boy he met on the internet ''[...]'' Mr Cahill was well-respected in education circles and had written papers used to develop WA's high school science curriculum. A police source told The Sunday Times the boy went to Mr Cahill's Mt Lawley home on Sunday, May 11, where they engaged in sex. ''[...]'' It is alleged that though the sex was agreed to by both parties, it was illegal because the boy was under the age of consent."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081202004753/http://www.leaderpost.com/Pedophile+Philpott+ends+life/1000364/story.html Pedophile Philpott ends his own life] (2008)'''
*:''"Darren Philpott said he was afraid of being harmed by other inmates, and he had good reason for his fears. He was assaulted at least once, attacked by another inmate while at a court appearance in Regina, and he had to be kept in segregation at the Regina Provincial Correctional Centre for his safety. The months that followed Philpott's arrest would see him rapidly and visibly deteriorating, appearing increasingly haggard during his appearances in court, and looking ever more grim as additional charges were laid and the spectre of his future loomed large. ''[...]'' Having already attempted to kill himself at least once while in custody, Philpott was on suicide watch, where inmates are checked by guards every 15 minutes and are barred from having items such as razors and pop cans, which they could use to harm themselves. In late August or early September, Philpott hanged himself in his cell. His heart had stopped when he was discovered by correctional officers and cut down from the ceiling, but he was revived with CPR and made an almost miraculous recovery. Then, on the evening of Sept. 24, left alone behind a closed door to shower, Philpott hanged himself again. Sources say he used a bedsheet to hang himself from a pipe, and he was blue and unconscious by the time he was discovered by guards."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080606195117/http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23817903-2,00.html Teacher kills himself after child porn charges] (2008)'''
*:''"A QUEENSLAND teacher has committed suicide and another was taken to hospital after they were charged as part of Australia's largest [[anti]]-pedophile investigation. More than 90 men across Australia have been arrested or summonsed to court over the child porn sweep, including an Australian Federal Police officer, four teachers, youth workers, bankers and company directors, The Australian reports."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20070306003742/http://www.sptimes.com/2007/02/02/Hillsborough/Friends_say_child_por.shtml Friends say child porn charges crushed ex-Marine] (2007)'''
*:''"TAMPA - Tuesday was going to be Cody Lee Liberty's day of reckoning. In June 2005, the 26-year-old Iraq War veteran was arrested on 11 felony charges of possessing child pornography. On Tuesday he would go to court. He could plea bargain and suffer the brand of being a registered pedophile for the rest of his life. Or he could fight the charge and risk up to 55 years in jail. "I feel I'm backed into a corner and have to plead guilty, but I DID NOT commit the crimes," Mr. Liberty wrote on his MySpace Web site last Friday. The next evening, while Gasparilla festivities filled Tampa's streets, he killed himself."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20100328042845/http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/UCAS-worker-s-child-porn-shame/article-1136916-detail/article.html "UCAS worker's child porn shame] (2009)'''
*:''"A FORMER languages teacher who worked for UCAS drowned himself because he feared his interest in child porn websites would be discovered, an inquest heard. Administrator at the university admissions service Graham Jowett, 60, had developed an "unhealthy interest in paedophilia" and felt guilty about it, his GP told an inquest in Gloucester. "He said he had drifted into internet paedophilic websites and photographs and he was very concerned his employers might find out about this," said Dr Alexander Owen." (...) "He asserted his belief that his interest in these images was innocent and he would never harm a child. "In my opinion he was a sensitive and slightly vulnerable individual who had developed an unhealthy interest in paedophilia." The inquest heard that before committing suicide in the River Severn, Mr Jowett destroyed his home computer and posted the key of his house to his brother. (...) He was found dead in the river by a canoeist at Wainlodes on June 17."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20231019045205/https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/ex-teacher-shoots-self-after-being-accused-of-having-sexual-relationship-with-teen-cops/ "Ex-teacher takes own life after being accused of sexual relationship with student, 16, officials say] (2023)'''
*:''"A former Florida high school teacher has died from an apparent suicide while facing trial for repeatedly having sex with a 16-year-old student who said she’d kept clothes and a toothbrush at his home." (...) "He’d been caught professing his love to the girl in a call monitored by cops — telling her that he could not wait for her to turn 18, according to the report. (...) The Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office first started investigating in December after a restaurant owner reported to the principal that Maglio was sending flowers to a teen employee. (...) The girl contacted Maglio “and gave him a heads up about a possible investigation,” according to an affidavit cited by WPLG. When questioned, the student reportedly said: “I don’t want him to get in trouble. I’m in love with him.” The girl began to visit Magliko in his classroom after school because she was looking for “a mentor fatherly figure, but it escalated,” the document reportedly states. She said they began communicating on social media and had sex several times at Maglio’s apartment. The victim said she had left clothes and a toothbrush at his place. (...) "After Maglio’s death was confirmed, his attorney said that the late teacher’s “family, friends and many of his past students were saddened by the tragic loss of his life."''

===Registry-abetted Murder===

The public availability of Sex Offender data has repeatedly allowed other criminals and vigilantes who believe they are doing God's work to carry out targeted attacks, sometimes even slaying family members of people on the registry. At least ten murders are known to have directly resulted from the public listing of details on a sex offender registry.

*'''[https://www.3newsnow.com/news/local-news/james-fairbanks-sentenced-40-70-years-in-murder-of-convicted-sex-offender James Fairbanks sentenced: 40–70 years in murder of convicted sex offender] (2020)'''
*:''"On May 16, 2020, Condoluci, 64, was found dead inside his home near 43rd & Pinkney St. Fairbanks sent an anonymous email to the media, including KMTV, and later admitted he was the one who sent the letter in which he detailed why he killed Condoluci. ''[...]'' It said he was looking for an apartment in the area, knew of Condoluci’s past and saw him staring at children."''
::Editor's note: Rather disturbingly, it appears that the [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8347705/Mother-campaigns-free-vigilante-murdered-5-year-old-sons-abuser.html misleading] legal language (rape) used on the registry was an aggravating factor behind this registry murder, as well as the murderer's extremist "child protection" ideology. The victim's son and daughter appeared to be split on the matter, with the daughter even campaigning for the killer's release.

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2205288/Patrick-Drum-Vigilante-killed-sex-offenders-sentenced-life-prison.html 'They deserved to die': Vigilante who gunned down two registered sex offenders is unrepentant as judge sentences him to life in prison] (2012)'''
*:''"A vigilante who gunned down two registered sex offenders in Washington state was unrepentant as he was sentenced to life in prison on Tuesday. Patrick Drum, 34, told a judge that his victims deserved to die. Drum, who is himself a convicted felon, admitted to stalking Gary Lee Blanton, 28, and Jerry Wayne Ray, 57, and shooting them multiple times in their homes near Port Angeles, Washington."''

*'''[https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060311&slug=mullen11m Murderer of two sex offenders sentenced to 44 years] (2006)'''
*:''"Michael A. Mullen, 36, escaped a potential life sentence in a plea deal reached this week, ending a case considered one of the nation's worst cases of [[vigilantism]] against sex offenders. Mullen had confessed to the high-profile killings in letters to the news media, expressing a desire to be executed as a symbol of retribution against sex offenders. ''[...]'' In letters to The Seattle Times, Mullen said he targeted Eisses through the sex-offender registry and was surprised when he found two other sex offenders, Vasquez and James Russell, also were living in Eisses' Bellingham house. Mullen claims he interviewed the three before letting Russell go. "... Out of the three only one showed remorse or guilt. He is the one I let go," he wrote. "... I came to the conclusion that they must die, along with my own execution at the hands of the state, to drive my point home that 'WE' will protect 'our' children.""''

*'''[https://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/07/justice/south-carolina-neo-nazis-murder-sex-offender/index.html Neo-Nazis feign remorse, taunt family of murdered sex offender] (2013)'''
*:''"In court, the South Carolina neo-Nazi couple seemed remorseful for the 2013 murder of a sex offender, but they changed their tunes when their life sentences were handed down. "Child molesters do not deserve to live," Jeremy Moody said as he was led out of a Union County courthouse Tuesday wearing handcuffs and striped prison scrubs. "Had to do it over again, I'd kill more." As his wife, Christine Moody, was placed into a police car for transport to prison, she added, "I have no regrets. Killing that pedophile was the best day of my life." The couple was charged in the murders of Charles Parker, 59, and his wife, Gretchen, 51, in July. The Moodys went to their Jonesville home pretending to have car trouble, entered the home and killed the couple, Union County Chief Deputy Perry Haney said at the time. ''[...]'' "See you perverts later," Jeremy Moody said as he was escorted out of the courtroom. "That's what child molesters get." ''[...]'' And did she have anything to say to Parkers' families? "May they die also," she said before officers placed her in the back of a squad car."''

::Further, from the same case:

:*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20151030050334/https://www.foxcarolina.com/story/22906138/sheriff-2-bodies-found-in-union-county-home/ Homicide suspect calls victim 'pedophile' and 'demon'] (2013)'''
:::''"The victims were shot with a .380 handgun at close range and stabbed, according to Taylor. Taylor said surveillance video helped them identify and arrest Christine Moody, 36, and Jeremy Moody, 30, in connection with the Parkers' deaths. Both were arrested and charged with two counts of murder. ''[...]'' In court, Christine Moody told FOX Carolina that Charles Parker was a "pedophile" and a "demon." ''[...]'' According to the sheriff, Jeremy Moody told deputies he killed Charles Parker because he was a registered sex offender and planned to kill another registered sex offender on his list Wednesday had he not been caught, Taylor said. Taylor said Gretchen Parker was killed because she was with Charles Parker."''

*'''[[Wikipedia:Stephen Marshall (murderer)|Stephen Marshall (murderer): Wikipedia]] (2006)'''
*:''"Stephen Marshall (9 August 1985 – 16 April 2006) was an American-Canadian vigilante who searched publicly available sex offender registries in the United States for the names and addresses of convicted sex offenders before traveling to Maine in the Northeastern United States and murdering two. ''[...]'' After his suicide, authorities investigated his computer. They found an animation of Jesus armed with an assault rifle while knocking on someone's door. Witnesses reported that Marshall had converted to Christianity shortly before the killings. At one point, he referred to pedophiles as "scums of the Earth"."''
::*Among Marshall's victims was William Elliott. At age 19, Elliott had voluntary sex with a 15-year-old girl who was turning 16 ([[Age of Consent]] in their state Maine) in 3 weeks. The girl’s parents found out about this, and Elliott was accused of sexual abuse of a minor and spent 2 years in prison. After leaving prison, William decided to live separately from his mother, bought a trailer and got a job as a construction worker. On April 16, 2006, Stephen Marshall came to William's house and shot William in the face from the threshold. During the arrest, Stephen committed suicide. William was 24 years old when he died. His killer was 20 years old. Marshall found William's address on the Maine sex offenders registry. Joe Reisdorf, a friend of Stephen Marshall, said that in their teens they sometimes discussed sex offenders they had heard about in the news. Stephen and Joe agreed then that sex offenders are disgusting and useless people and that they are worse than killers. On the same day, another registered sex offender, 57-year-old Joseph Gray, became a Marshall victim. The Maine Sex Offender Registry is still publicly available.

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20121020072046/https://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501203_162-3597422.html/ Did Sex Offender Listing Lead To Murder?] (2009)'''
*:''"Convicted rapist Michael Dodele had been free just 35 days when sheriff's deputies found him dead from stab wounds last month in his mobile home. They quickly arrested his neighbor, 29-year-old construction worker Ivan Garcia Oliver, who made "incriminating comments, essentially admitting to his attacking Dodele," police said. Oliver pleaded not guilty to charges of first-degree murder, burglary and elder abuse on Nov. 30. A neighbor of Oliver's said that two days before the killing, he "told every house" in the trailer park that he found Dodele's name listed on the Web site of convicted sexual offenders, and was uncomfortable living near him. In a jailhouse interview with the Los Angeles Times, Oliver said he had a son who was molested in the past and he took action to protect the child. "Society may see the action I took as unacceptable in the eyes of 'normal' people," Oliver said. "I felt that by not taking evasive action as a father in the right direction, I might as well have taken my child to some swamp filled with alligators and had them tear him to pieces. It's no different." As it turned out, Dodele was not actually a child molester. His records show he sexually assaulted adult women."''

*'''[http://archive.boston.com/news/local/articles/2004/12/05/man_defends_attacks_on_sex_offenders?pg=full Man defends attacks on sex offenders] (2004)'''
*:''"Lawrence Trant sees himself as a righteous crusader who put muscle behind his boiling outrage against pedophiles. The state of New Hampshire sees Trant differently. He is serving a 10- to 30-year sentence in New Hampshire State Prison after pleading guilty to attempting to murder two convicted sex offenders whose names and addresses he found on an Internet registry posted by the state. "I don't want people to steal the souls of little kids," Trant, 57, said in an interview in prison last week. "I'm doing 30 years for something I think is morally justified." But prosecutor John Weld says Trant is one of the most cold-blooded criminals he has encountered. If Trant had not been arrested, Weld said, the native of Cambridge, Mass., probably would have killed someone convicted of a sex crime against children. "He doesn't seem to have any conscience about violence to other people," Weld said. "These people have as much right to justice as anybody else." ''[...]'' "I hope I've done a service to the community," Trant said. "These guys are sexual terrorists.""''

===Vigilante/Hate-motivated Murder===

[[File:Axtell.png|thumb|Formerly sectioned [[pedophobia|pedophobic]] murderer Levi Axtell (right) received the support of his community]]
There are [[Wikipedia:Snowtown murders|numerous examples]] of murders not resulting directly from registered sex offender status, but instead hearsay in the local community re. a person's status. In one particularly disgusting 2022 example, a teenager who repeatedly stabbed her partner to death (later alleging he was "trafficking" her), escaped prison, later benefitting from a fundraiser to pay her fines.<ref>[https://www.gofundme.com/f/vxgt7q Pieper Lewis Gofundme, following deadly assault on 37 year old Zachary Brooks]</ref> The limits on the fundraiser were raised after it was exceded, and she was praised as "brave" in parts of the mainstream media:

::''"She said she did not fear the prospect of going to prison, and that she will go on to be a fashion designer and open a business called Pie. She also said she will become a juvenile justice advocate. "My story can change things. My story has changed me," Lewis said. "The events that took place on that horrific day cannot be changed, as much as I wish I could. That day a combination of complicated actions took place resulting in the death of a person, as well as a stolen innocence of a child.""''<ref>[https://eu.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2022/09/13/pieper-lewis-speaks-sentencing-killing-alleged-rapist-des-moines-sex-trafficking/10358999002/ Des Moines teen Pieper Lewis, who killed alleged rapist, gets probation, deferred judgment]</ref>

*'''[https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-vigilante-tricked-sex-offender-meeting-him-park-murdered-him-police Texas vigilante tricked sex offender into meeting him at park – then murdered him: police] (2024)'''
*:''"James Lewis Spencer III, 24, is charged with murder in connection with the shooting death of Sean Connery Showers, 37, who was found unresponsive, lying in a ditch near a park on Northwood Street, in the early morning hours of May 29, 2023, according to the Houston Police Department. Spencer allegedly told someone "he believed the police were not doing enough to keep pedophiles incarcerated," and he wanted to "rob and harm those types of men [because] they would do bad things to little children and other people," an affidavit filed in Harris County last week states."''

*'''[https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/35235/3970250 Lynching (German Police Report - Translated)] (2023)'''
*:''"Yesterday at noon, several men in Bremen-Lesum believed they had to take matters into their own hands. After a television report around noon, they went to a man in his apartment and beat him up so badly that he initially suffered life-threatening injuries. The broadcaster described in a post how reporters sought contact with alleged pedophiles via the Internet. The film then showed a man whose behavior was described by the reporters as suspicious and filmed. After the broadcast, the filmed man was allegedly recognized by people from Bremen-Nord. They said they had identified the address of the man depicted in the post and went there. Unknown perpetrators then broke into an apartment in the multi-party building and beat up a 50-year-old resident so badly that he suffered life-threatening injuries. Fortunately, the victim's life is no longer in danger. An investigation into an attempted homicide has been launched."''

*'''[https://www.idahotribune.org/news/un-happy-fathers-day-pervert-killed-in-kellogg-idaho-after-police-and-school-admins-took-no-action Un-Happy Father’s Day: Pervert Killed In Kellogg, Idaho After Police And School Admins Took NO ACTION — Caught Masturbating While Looking At Neighbor’s Kids And In School] (2023)'''
*:''"A shooting in Kellogg Idaho has left 4 people dead, after reports of indecent exposure, perversion, and pedophilia were ignored by local law enforcement and Kellogg High School staff. The Idaho Tribune has learned, according to several sources, that the name of one of the victims is 18 year old Devin Smith, a recent graduate of Kellogg High School. Those same sources told the Idaho Tribune that Smith was caught masturbating in class and “was only given one, maybe 2 days of in school suspension” as punishment for his perverted acts. These allegations remain unconfirmed at this time. ''[...]'' According to a Facebook post by Sarah Lindsay, it appears as though despite Kaylie’s call to the Police, no action was taken, and that Smith was again seen committing perverted acts while watching the Kaylor children. Based on available information it appears as though Kaylie’s husband, a 31 year old miner named Majorjon Kaylor came home from work, found out about what happened, and in a crime of passion killed Smith, and 3 other individuals in the house."''

*'''[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-17/albert-thorn-guilty-of-bradley-lyons-murder-lakes-entrance/102426248 Albert Thorn found guilty of executing Bradley Lyons in shallow bush grave after vigilantes tortured him] (2023)'''
*:''"Leading the charge was eastern Victorian man, self-styled vigilante Albert Thorn, who suspected 30-year-old Mr Lyons was a paedophile. After a three-week trial and five days of deliberations, a Supreme Court jury in Melbourne yesterday found Thorn, 57, guilty of murdering Mr Lyons by shooting him in the back of the head while he lay bound, beaten and burnt in a shallow grave in remote bushland in eastern Victoria. ''[...]'' Mr Lyons — a father of three — was ambushed at his home on December 2, 2018, by a posse of four men intent on torturing a confession out of him. ''[...]'' The attack on Mr Lyons stemmed from Stefani's belief that his landlord was sexually abusing children. No evidence was ever provided to corroborate his opinion, and prosecutors in court labelled them "flimsy claims"."''

:*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/melbourne/article-12217413/Final-moments-Bradley-Lyons-life-tortured-Australian-Freedom-Fighters-chainsaw.html The terrifying inside story of how an innocent dad was tortured and killed by a group of chainsaw-wielding 'paedophile hunters' - after his wife falsely accused him of molesting her daughters] (2023)'''
:*:''"A ruthless gang of drug-fuelled vigilantes menaced an innocent father with a chainsaw while trying to force a confession out of him for crimes he did not commit, in a brutal torture and murder that shocked Australia. Father-of-eight Bradley 'BJ' Lyons was tortured and executed after being betrayed by his meth-addled wife Jana Hooper, who falsely accused him of sexually assaulting her daughters. Video obtained by Daily Mail Australia shows Hooper leading her husband to his death after 'giving the nod' for thugs to enter their house in Lakes Entrance, in Victoria's east, and attack him. ''[...]'' Thorn had been the leader of a vigilante gang with a very specific hatred for paedophiles. Such was Thorn's hatred for paedophiles, he tattooed the gang's name, Australian Freedom Fighters, across his entire back and posted photographs to Facebook. ''[...]'' Mr Lyons was eventually dragged out of the boot of Thorn's car to an old shed on his property where things went from bad to worse for the terrified dad. The court heard Thorn was giddy with excitement. 'I could see Bert getting really turned on and getting some sort of pleasure from this,' Ms MacFarlane told the jury. ''[...]'' The court heard the men had celebrated their crime, holding a party at Thorn's property in which Mr Lyons' own wife and children attended."''

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11848881/Minnesota-dad-uses-shovel-moose-antler-kill-77-year-old-sex-offender-stalked-daughter.html Minnesota dad uses moose antler to slaughter 77-year-old sex offender he claims was stalking daughter - before turning himself in to police station 'covered in blood'] (2023)'''
*:''"A Minnesota father slaughtered a 77-year-old convicted sex offender using a moose antler and shovel after he accused the victim of stalking his young daughter. Levi Axtell, 27, walked into at the sheriff's office covered in blood and with his head in his hands as he admitted killing Lawrence Scully - who was jailed for molesting a six-year-old girl in 1979. Axtell, from Cook County, Minnesota, had long been suspicious of Scully parking his vehicle at locations where children were present. In 2018 Axtell filed an order of protection against the elderly man which was initially granted but later dropped. Court records also show Scully was committed to a mental institution in 2020 but was later released and prescribed anti-psychotic drugs. ''[...]'' On Saturday a woman believed to be Axtell's sister said she had received lots of support from the local community and the family were planning to set up an online fundraiser to help with the case."''
[[File:Tcap.png|thumb|Posted by a murderer's wife on Facebook]]
:*'''[https://cnycentral.com/news/nation-world/man-charged-with-murder-for-killing-former-sex-offender-with-a-shovel-and-an-antler-second-degree-murder-pedophile-sexual-assault-stalking-harassment-trespassing-moose Man charged with murder for killing former sex offender with a shovel and an antler]'''
:*:''"Axtell made public posts on social media expressing violent thoughts towards people like Scully starting in 2020. He posted a photo on Facebook featuring someone holding a gun with the caption, “Only cure for pedophiles. A bullet." He added additional thoughts in the comment thread below the photo, saying, "People always ask me why I hate pedophiles. They assume I've been abused. But really I think being protective is just an Axtell trait.""''

*'''[https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/ain-accuse-a-tort-d-etre-un-pedophile-un-septuagenaire-battu-a-mort-01-09-2020-8376594.php Ain: wrongly accused of being a pedophile, a septuagenarian beaten to death] (2020)'''
*:''"On Sunday, a 74-year-old man was repeatedly beaten by a 25-year-old man who thought he was dealing with a pedophile. He died the next day. ''[...]'' The owners of the premises had asked this 74-year-old man, a neighbor and friend, to babysit their 12-year-old son during the weekend, and the latter had spent the night there. ''[...] [After entering by force, the 25 year old was]'' convinced he was dealing with a pedophile who attacked his cousin ''[...]'' despite the denials of the child himself."''

*'''[https://www.essexlive.news/news/basildon-man-steven-keeble-who-1505785 Basildon man Steven Keeble who beat dad John Masser to death in the street is jailed for life] (2018)'''
*:''"A man who brutally beat a dad-of-three to death in a residential street shouted and screamed as he was taken away to serve a life sentence in prison. ''[...]'' Six weeks prior Mr Masser appeared at Basildon Crown Court for a historic sex offence allegation, in which he denied raping a teenager in 1986. ''[...]'' When he saw Mr Masser on the street outside the home of a friend he became very angry by Mr Masser’s presence and his behaviour. “Having left that man bleeding and badly injured on the road, he described him after the attack as a ‘nonce’." ''[...]'' The violent attack was witnessed by a number of residents of Moss Drive, including a pregnant woman. ''[...]'' "Detective inspector Alan Pitcher, from the Kent and Essex Serious Crime Directorate said after the guilty verdict: “On a Sunday, early evening last October, Keeble brutally attacked Mr Masser, subjecting him to a sustained and violent attack. He punched him to the ground and repeatedly kicked and stamped on his head while in a rage. He fled the scene and then denied the assault when he was arrested by the police. By the end of the attack, Mr Masser was lying critically injured. He survived for a few days, but these injuries, viciously inflicted by Keeble, had done too much damage.""''

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137467/Suspect-accused-murdering-gay-supermarket-worker-used-military-strategy-track-uncaught-paedophiles.html?ito=feeds-newsxml Suspect accused of murdering gay supermarket worker used 'military strategy to track down uncaught paedophiles'] (2013)'''
*:''"A man accused of murdering a gay supermarket worker embarked on a campaign against uncaught paedophiles using 'military strategy' to track them down after overhearing convicted prisoners planning new offences while in prison, a court heard. Christopher Hunnisett, who is on trial accused of killing supermarket worker Peter Bick, told the court he used the internet and a network of 'live sources' - some made in prison - to investigate rumours of child abuse. ''[...]'' 'There are so many paedophiles in this country, over 600,000 who just offend against children,' he said. 'Even if I stopped more than 100 a day I would take over 20 years to deal with them. It is impossible for one person to stop them all. ''[...]'' While in the witness box Hunnisett used military terms like 'in the field' to describe how he investigated claims of sex offending, using call signs like 'Sierra' to describe a 'suspect' and 'Tango' to describe a 'target' against whom he had proof of illegal activities. One they had been 'dealt with' they were reclassified as 'x-ray'. ''[...]'' Mr Bick was killed during the early hours of January 11 last year after Hunnisett, whom he had met for sex, inflicted five severe blows to his head with a hammer and strangled him with a shoelace, the court has been told previously. ''[...]'' 'It's disgusting and they have no idea how much it destroys a person and damages them, and no one gives a damn about it.' ''[he said] [...]'' The trial has already heard there is no evidence that Mr Bick was a paedophile."''

*'''[https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article152034899/Eltern-locken-vermeintlichen-Paedophilen-in-Todesfalle.html Parents lure alleged pedophile into death trap (Translation)] (2016)'''
*:''"The public prosecutor's office in Aachen read out the indictment on the first day of the trial, and it became clear to those attending the trial that it was probably deadly vigilante justice due to a misunderstanding. Because daughter Chantal was 22 years old on Facebook. Her parents had made her ten years older when she set up the account, possibly to protect her. One evening Christian L. sent Chantal two short messages via Facebook: first a "How are you" and a little later a "Good evening". When she didn't respond, Christian L. left it at that. He had no idea that he had texted a twelve-year-old. However, Chantal's parents seemed convinced it was a pedophile and they wanted to punish him fatally, according to prosecutors. Mother Nadine contacted Christian L. via Facebook and pretended to be interested in a sexual encounter. When that didn't work, 38-year-old Marlene M. became active as a "decoy" on Facebook and arranged a lonely evening meeting point with Christian L. near the train station in Eschweiler, North Rhine-Westphalia. ''[...]'' Mother Nadine hit Christian L. in the face with brass knuckles at the train station and challenged his smartphone to see if he had photos of her daughter on it. Nothing was found, but father Karl-Heinz, who had emerged from the bushes, stabbed Christian L. again and again – “with an absolute will to destroy,” as the public prosecutor says. The couple and work colleague L. left the seriously injured victim. Christian L. bled to death. ''[...]'' Very sad lives emerge, characterized by school failure, drugs, unemployment, frustration and being overwhelmed. Nadine's mother is very pale and sits motionless with her carefully combed long hair in the last row of the dock while her lawyer gives biographical information. She left secondary school and worked at the gas station until she couldn't get along with the boss anymore and became unemployed. She had started smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol at an early age."''

*'''[https://journalmetro.com/actualites/national/1051401/de-laide-financiere-pour-yan-dugas-accuse-davoir-tue-un-pedophile/ Financial aid for Yan Dugas, accused of having killed a pedophile] (2016)'''
*:''"A crowdfunding campaign has been created on the internet to help Yan Dugas, the 18-year-old young man accused of the murder of pedophile Mathias Breton. A Facebook page “Supports Yan Dugas – Official” was created following his arrest. On this page, loved by more than 100 people, a fundraising campaign on the Go Fund Me site was shared. On a photo of the young man, we can read the following comment: "this boy has rid a useless animal why a trial (sic)"."''

*'''[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bijan-ebrahimi-murdered-vigilante-lee-2651168 Disabled man burned to death by vigilantes who wrongly suspected him of being a paedophile] (2013)'''
*:''"Thugs beat up a vulnerable disabled man and burned him to death because they mistakenly believed he was a paedophile. Neighbours accused Bijan Ebrahimi, 44, of being a pervert when he was seen taking photos of youths vandalising his hanging baskets. A court heard the rumours led to the keen gardener’s horrific death when Lee James, 24, kicked him unconscious. With the help of pal Stephen Norley, James then dragged him outside, soaked him in white spirit and set him alight. Police earlier took Mr Ebrahami away for questioning as an angry mob chanted “paedo, paedo”, but he was released when officers found he had done nothing wrong. One resident in Brislington, Bristol, said: “When the police took him away everyone was cheering. Then he was released back into that.” Another added: “Whoever started those rumours now has to live with that. "He wasn’t a paedophile and now he’s dead. That’s a hell of a thing to have on your conscience.”"''

*'''[https://www.brongersma.info/Founding_member_of_NAMBLA_murdered_by_man_he_befriended Founding member of NAMBLA murdered by man he befriended] (1986)''' (also see our gallery)
*:''"Robert Burdick, a 78-year-old retired teacher, was brutally murdered in his New York apartment July 24. A drifter named Edward Joseph Patterson, 37, has admitted committing the crime. Burdick's body was found, stabbed at least ten times in the chest, that afternoon following phone calls by Patterson to reporters in Philadelphia and Baltimore, in which he described the crime. He was arrested that evening in Baltimore. ''[...]'' Patterson, who has a record of 50 arrests and is listed in police records under some 23 aliases, is apparently a deranged antihomosexual psychopath and has reportedly threatened to kill all American presidents from Richard Nixon on. He told reporters after killing Burdick that he planned to kill eight members of his own family in Camden, New Jersey, "in a more terrible and violent way." He asserted that someone in his family had "molested" him when he was nine years old, and sought to justify his murder of Burdick by alleging that Burdick had had sex with children. What is more likely is that he murdered Burdick because of Burdick's involvement with NAMBLA and his support of man/boy love. Burdick had never been arrested or charged with any crime of any kind. He was a committed fighter for sexual freedom and gay liberation who will be missed not only by his comrades in NAMBLA, but by the entire gay movement."''

*'''[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/6182286.stm Probe into police attack response] (2005)'''
*:''"Paul Cooper was killed at his flat in Heywood, Greater Manchester, in 2005. ''[...]'' The 42-year-old suffered a "brutal and prolonged attack", Minshull Street Crown Court heard. Read attacked and killed Mr Cooper after becoming fixated with the idea he had been indecently assaulted by him when he was a child, the court heard. Police said there was no suggestion that Mr Cooper was ever involved in sexual offences."''

*'''[https://nashaniva.com/?c=ar&i=229960&lang=ru Закон района: товарищ бьет — и ты должен бить». Что говорят в Полоцке о подозреваемых в жестоком убийстве ] (2019)'''
*:[Editor summary] On April 22, 2019, the 26-year-old resident of Polotsk, Roman Tsyro, was severely beaten and buried alive. The killers were three of his acquaintances - Slava (16 years old), Yuri (17 years old) and Vadim (20 years old). Roman had a relationship with a 16-year-old schoolgirl. He was probably in love with her. The girl herself considered their relationship a friendship. Nevertheless, Slava, Yuri and Vadim considered this unacceptable. On the night of April 21-22, they called Roman, asked to take a taxi and call for them, which he did. They came home to Roman. Young people demanded him leave his girlfriend and confirm in writing the end of the relationship. After Roman refused to do this, they began to beat him. He was beaten with hands, a shovel and other means. Then the killers buried him in the yard. Presumably, Roman was still alive. Further stories.<ref>[https://nashaniva.com/?c=ar&i=229917&lang=ru Supplementary story re. Tsyro (in Russian)]</ref>

*'''[https://www.lefigaro.fr/actualite-france/2010/04/08/01016-20100408ARTFIG00718-soupconne-d-etre-pedophile-il-aurait-ete-tue-par-ses-voisins-.php Suspected of being a pedophile, he was allegedly killed by his neighbors] (2010)'''
*:''"On the night of December 8, 2009, firefighters intervened in the apartment of Philippe Pouillé, 69, in flames. The body of this pensioner, slightly handicapped and placed under respiratory assistance, was discovered charred on his bed. The investigators had initially thought of an accident, the oxygen cylinders having been able to catch fire. But the discovery of a box of matches and traces of fuel had quickly oriented the investigation, entrusted to the SRPJ of Montpellier, towards the hypothesis of a murder. A few days later, the autopsy revealed that the man had indeed died of strangulation and not from the consequences of the fire. During their police custody, the three accused neighbors explained that they had gone to the pensioner's house to obtain explanations following questionable behavior. Still according to them, Philippe Pouillet used to receive young children at his home, including the daughters, aged eight and nine, of the two women indicted, who allegedly complained of touching. There, the conversation would have degenerated and two of the three neighbors would then have strangled the old man with their bare hands. They would then have returned a little later to set fire to his apartment. But, according to information from RTL, in the building where the tragedy took place, the theory of a pedophile tendency on the part of the pensioner is puzzling. "This rumor of pedophilia did not hold until this morning, for us, in any case, and it still does not," explains Nordine, who lives on the same floor as the victim. ''[...]'' The girls, who should be quickly examined by a doctor, will be seen by a psychiatrist."''

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11364461/amp/Father-forced-paedophile-friend-dig-grave-freed-jail-early.html Russian father who forced his paedophile best friend to dig his own grave and kill himself after discovering he had sexually abused his daughter, six, is freed from jail a year early after serving just six months] (2022)'''
*:''"A distraught father who forced his best friend to kill himself when he discovered the man had sexually abused his daughter has been freed from jail after only six months. ''[...]'' Prominent TV journalist and former Russian presidential candidate Ksenia Sobchak told her followers: "All parents are standing up for the paedophile's killer.""''

*'''[https://www.digibron.nl/viewer/collectie/Digibron/id/tag:RD.nl,20000925:newsml_6b6e6108c4660fb6ff444d2075ed0aaf Oosterhouter bekent neersteken plaatsgenoot] (2000)'''
*:[Editor summary] On September 22, 2000, 37-year-old Lucien met the 22-year-old Dennis Brocken at the supermarket and inflicted 10 stab wounds on him. The motive for the murder was the fact that Dennis had previously committed a sexual “crime”, one of the “victims” of which was Lucien’s son. For this, Dennis was convicted and served his sentence. Dennis’ crime was that he downloaded child pornography and invited a group of youths to his home, played computer games with them and played with them sexually. Brocken was applauded in some quarters as a national hero. Further stories.<ref>[https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.volkskrant.nl%2Fnieuws-achtergrond%2Fsympathisanten-maken-volksheld-van-pedokiller%7Eb1c5707e%2F 12ft unpaywalled supplementary article in Dutch re. Brocken]</ref><ref>[https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-achtergrond/pedofiel-mogelijk-gedood-door-vader-slachtoffer~bdc8cc8d/ 12ft unpaywalled further supplementary article in Dutch re. Brocken]</ref>

*'''[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7778891.stm Stab murder man was sex offender] and [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1094055/Convicted-paedophile-struck-stabbed-death-stripped-mutilated-suspected-vigilante-attack.htm Convicted paedophile 'who struck again' stabbed to death, stripped and mutilated in suspected vigilante attack] (2008)'''
*:''"A man found stabbed to death in south London was a convicted child sex offender, it has been revealed. Andrew Cunningham, 52, was found dead in his caravan in Riverside Road, in Wandsworth, on Wednesday. A post-mortem examination said the cause of death was multiple wounds including mutilation to the groin." // "A paedophile was hacked to death in a frenzied assault by a suspected mob of vigilantes. Andrew Cunningham, 52, was found naked and soaked in blood at his caravan home after suffering multiple stab wounds to his head, neck and chest ''[...]'' Recently, drinkers at a pub claimed he had assaulted another girl. This allegation was never reported to police but mobs reportedly drove past his caravan chanting: 'Die, paedo, die.' Cunningham moved there because vigilantes had set fire to a bag of rubbish outside his former house in Wandsworth in 2003. ''[...]'' A police source said detectives were focusing on recent incidents rather than his earlier conviction. He added: 'Damage was caused to his genitals. He was loathed by a large number of people so we have a lot of potential suspects.' Yesterday Wazir Zadran, 23, a worker at a nearby fish factory, said: 'I heard it was a planned attack. Everyone knew he lived there and was a paedophile.' ''[...]'' Cunningham's body was found by his employer, known as Rodney, who said: 'There was blood everywhere. The bed was soaked and his head was lying in it.' He added: 'He was a lovely man, he couldn't do enough for me.' But yesterday there was little sympathy from motorists passing the scene, with one van driver shouting: 'He deserved it.' However, a bunch of flowers was laid by a 15-year-old called Lucy. She said: 'I used to go round his caravan instead of going to school. He never laid a finger on me. He told me to go back to school.' The teenager, who was accompanied by her father, later made a statement to police. A tag on her flowers read: 'To Andy, the best man alive no matter what people say. Me and the family will miss you. May you rest in peace.'"''
[[File:Blair.png|thumb|Mitchelle Blair launched into a rage, tortured and murdered her children, she says, when one confessed that the other was "humping" him (described in the story as "rape")]]
*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081006024755/https://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081002.BCVIGILANTE02/TPStory/National Slaying provoked by false accusation, police say] (2008)'''
*:''"VICTORIA -- The sexual touching allegations that provoked the beating death of a Courtenay man this week lacked credibility and may have been fabricated, police said yesterday. Comox RCMP Inspector Tom Gray said a follow-up investigation of the allegations, made by two girls aged 13 and 15 who had been "hanging out" at the victim's house, found no evidence of any wrongdoing. "We're not so sure the people ''[the teenage girls]'' making these allegations are credible," said Insp. Gray, noting that RCMP detectives had interviewed the girls at length. "The issue, in my view, was somewhat consensual and in any event it didn't go very far. I just don't want anyone in the public to think the [slaying] victim did anything bad or anything to deserve this.""''

*'''[http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/primal-rage-pedo-stomped-to-death/2008/07/22/1216492426387.html Primal rage: 'pedo' stomped to death] (2008)'''
*:''"A convicted pedophile represented everyone who had ever abused the young Adelaide man who killed him in a primal rage, a court was told today. Timothy Hemi Schaefer, 19, went to the home of Jeffrey Edwin Payne, 56, in Adelaide in April 2007, called him a "pedo", punched him and stabbed him in the leg. ''[...]'' "In fact, during his interview with police he referred to Mr Payne as a sack of shit," Ms Powell said. "He would have had to hear and feel the sounds of the bones fracturing under foot.""''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080612173740/https://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/homepage/abox/article_1305413.php Killing in jail decried] (2006)'''
*:''"SANTA ANA – John Derek Chamberlain feared the inmates at Theo Lacy Facility in Orange knew he was in for child pornography charges, his longtime friend Dorothy Schell recalled Friday. "You've got to talk to my attorney to get me out of here," Schell said Chamberlain told her from a jail phone on Tuesday and Wednesday. "I'm afraid. I'm afraid. I'm really afraid. They know. They know. I'm afraid something is going to happen to me." He was right. A group of inmates beat and kicked Chamberlain to death in a shower Thursday night, Orange County Sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino said."''

===Filicide===

Parents have for decades been known to beat and abuse their own children because of misguided beliefs about sexuality. But in some cases, this has escalated to murder. A few such examples follow.

*'''[https://crownheights.info/crime/30903/man-sentenced-to-25-years-for-killing-4-year-old/ Man Sentenced to 25 Years for Killing 4-Year-Old] (2010)'''
*:''"A New York City man was sentenced to 25 years behind bars Friday for teaming up with his girlfriend to savagely beat her 4-year-old son to death. Steven Dadaille, 27, and his girlfriend, Myrna Chenphang, 26, both of Brooklyn, had avoided second-degree murder charges by pleading guilty to the lesser charge of first-degree manslaughter in the October 2009 pummeling of young Jayden Lenescar. Dadaille and Chenphang repeatedly battered the boy’s legs, arms and torso with their hands and a belt buckle over a two day period at their home in Crown Heights. Both adults admitted they beat the boy because he was touching his genitals, and they wanted to find out who taught him to do it."'

*'''[https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/the-kids-sexually-abused-each-other-their-mom-killed-them-as-punishment-87c8bb653795 The Kids Sexually Abused Each Other, Their Mom Killed Them as Punishment] (2021)'''
*:''"One day, Blair came home and found her youngest son, Matthew putting his dolls in inappropriate positions. When Blair questioned Matthew, he confided in her that his elder brother, Stephen, had been raping him. Thus, for the next week, Blair severely beat Stephen, choked him, and threw hot water at him whilst he was naked in the bathroom. In the end, Stephen died, and Blair hid his body in the freezer. ''[...]'' “I went upstairs and I said, Stephen, Matthew said you were humping on him. He stood up and looked at me like he had lost his mind. He said yes…So I started punching Stephen… I put a bag over his head, he lost consciousness, I did that a couple of times.” ''[...]'' After nine months, Blair also discovered that Stoni was abusing Matthew. Stoni’s case was personal to Blair because of what Matthew confessed. She would squeeze blood out of her menstrual pad and drop it in Matthew’s mouth. So, Blair repeated the torture routine. For days, Blair beat Stoni, starved her, threw hot water at her naked body, and finally strangled her until she died. Then, she asked her oldest daughter, Gabrielle, to put Stoni’s body in the freezer."'

*'''[https://registryreport.org/2019/03/26/dad-executed-his-15-year-old-son-for-touching-sister/ Dad Executed His 15-Year Old Son for Touching Sister] (2009)'''
*:''"When her 15-year-old son confessed to Lazette Cherry that he’d touched a 3-year-old girl in a sexual way, Cherry called a meeting with family members and friends the next day to discuss what to do next. When Jamar Pinkney Jr. came into the room, Cherry testified Monday that his father asked: “Is there anything you want to tell me?" The family left to allow the parents to talk with the boy. Then they heard screaming as Jamar Pinkney Sr. started kicking, punching and pistol-whipping his son. The witness accounts of the boy’s final minutes came during the father’s preliminary exam Tuesday in 30th District Court, in which he was ordered to stand trial on a charge of first-degree premeditated murder in the slaying of his son Nov. 16. The boy’s aunt, Yolanda Cherry, testified that she heard Jamar pleading: ‘Daddy, don’t!’ Yolanda Cherry said the boy’s father replied: ‘You want to see some counseling?’ in reference to the boy’s earlier requests to get help. ''[...]'' After hearing a single gunshot, Yolanda Cherry found her nephew lying mortally wounded. “His heart was still beating. I said, ‘Hold on. He’s choking on his blood'” Yolanda Cherry testified. “All these police cars. Where is the ambulance? When I felt again, I couldn’t feel any heartbeat.” “And he started to pull Jamar’s pants off,” Yolanda Cherry testified. “Jamar Jr. is saying, ‘No, Daddy, no.’”"'

*'''[https://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/activist-blames-quack-satanic-abuse-psychology-after-paranoid-mom-murders-her-autistic-son/ Mom murdered her autistic son after seeking help from therapist who believes in 'Satanic mind control'] (2016)'''
*:''"In May, New York millionaire Gigi Jordan was sentenced to 18 years in prison for crushing a lethal dose of Ambien and Xanax into a cocktail of juice and vodka and forcing her 8-year-old autistic son, Jude Mirra, to drink it with a syringe while holed up in a luxury hotel room. ''[...]'' News reports and court records about Jordan seem to illustrate a deeply disturbed, delusional mother who believed a complex, winding conspiracy between her two ex-husbands to both defraud her of large sums of money and horrifically, sexually abuse her son. In the end, Jordan maintains she killed Jude because she thought it was the only way to protect him from the ongoing abuse -- abuse she believed caused his autism symptoms. Both men adamantly denied the accusations. Neither has been charged with a crime. "I wanted him to be safe and at peace at any cost," Jordan said in an interview with CBS New York."'

*'''[https://www.denverpost.com/2009/11/18/michigan-dad-accused-of-killing-son-over-sex-abuse-claim/ Michigan dad accused of killing son over sex-abuse claim] (2009)'''
*:''"A 37-year-old father irate over hearing that his 15-year-old son had sexual contact with a 3-year-old girl made the teen strip at gunpoint, marched him to a vacant lot and shot him to death despite pleas from the boy and his mother, a relative said. Michigan authorities filed a first-degree murder charge Wednesday against Jamar Pinkney Sr. in the shooting death Monday of Jamar Pinkney Jr. in the Detroit enclave of Highland Park. ''[...]'' Cherry said the elder Pinkney arrived at the home with a gun, ordered his son to strip and marched him outside despite her protests. “He got on his knees and begged, ‘No, Daddy, no,’ and he pulled the trigger,” Cherry said."''

===State murder===

In some instances, the death penalty has been used against Sex Offenders against minors.<ref>[https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/southeast-asia/herry-wirawan-indonesia-teacher-rape-b2051063.html Herry Wirawan: Indonesian teacher sentenced to death for raping 13 students and impregnating eight of them]</ref> In 2023, FL Governor Ron DeSantis signed into law a bill that allows for the execution of some sex offenders.<ref>[https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/01/politics/desantis-child-rapists-death-penalty-bill-scotus/index.html DeSantis signs bill making child rapists eligible for death penalty at odds with US Supreme Court ruling]</ref> Gay activists even claimed that it could lead to the death penalty for gay and trans people.<ref>[https://www.intomore.com/impact/a-new-florida-bill-could-spell-literal-death-for-queer-and-trans-citizens/ A New Florida Bill Could Spell Literal Death for Queer and Trans Citizens]</ref>

==Vigilante justice and rage==

:''[http://on-vigilantism.blogspot.com/ Sex Offender Research: Vigilantism] is far more comprehensive.''
[[File:Vigilante.jpg|thumb|Jason Vukovich was praised for a series of crazed hammer attacks on "pedophiles"]]
The "nonce hunting" situation in the UK has often been described as "out of control", with the pursuit of sexual deviants considered an "underground sport" much like cock fighting, dog fighting, bare-knuckle fighting and hare coursing. [[List of CSA/anti-pedophile proponents]] covers the British tradition of nonce-hunting and some of the highly localized groups involved. Elsewhere, [[Wikipedia:Occupy Pedophilia|homophobic groups]] have even sprung up, using hatred of [[pedophilia]] as an excuse for their existence.

*'''[https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/man-used-internet-registry-to-track-down-and-beat-up-pedophiles/ Police: Man used internet registry to track down and beat up pedophiles and sex offenders] (2019)'''
*:''"Back in the summer of 2016, he carried a notebook with a list of names, including Charles Albee, Andres Barbosa and Wesley Demarest. Over five days, he entered the homes of the three men, uninvited, and hit them, sometimes with his fists and in the case of Demarest, with a hammer, knocking him unconscious. He also stole from them, taking items including a truck and a laptop, according to assistant district attorney Patrick McKay. Vukovich called himself the “avenging angel” for children hurt by abusers. Vukovich told police that he targeted his victims based on their listings on Alaska’s sex offender registry, according to the memorandum. The online registry includes their home addresses, work addresses and convictions. Vukovich carried out his first attack the day after he got out of jail."''

*'''[https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/may/5/vigilantes-assault-rob-and-murder-registered-sex-offenders/ Vigilantes Assault, Rob and Murder Registered Sex Offenders] (2017)'''
*:''"In July 2015, Nebraska registered sex offender Phillip McDaniel lost his appeal seeking workers compensation for an attack that had occurred two years earlier at the Western Sugar Cooperative, when a co-worker assaulted him with a brass hammer while calling him a “chimo” – slang for “child molester.” The co-worker, Jason Bates, had become enraged after discovering that McDaniel was a registered sex offender. McDaniel suffered injuries to his nose, clavicle and left shoulder. He applied for workers compensation but was denied; after he appealed, the Nebraska Court of Appeals upheld the denial, finding that the attack was due to personal reasons even if the only relationship between the two was as co-workers. See: McDaniel v. Western Sugar Coop., 23 Neb. App. 35, 867 N.W.2d 302 (Neb. Ct. App. 2015)."''

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2700872/My-son-saved-attackers-life-Father-pounded-admitted-child-molester-bloody-puddle-claims-son-stopped-stabbing-admitted-pedophile-death.html 'My son saved his attacker's life': Father who brutally beat teen he caught raping his son, 11, reveals it was only his boy's pleas that saved the pedophile from death...] (2014)'''
*:[Summary] ''"Jason Browning, 35, shockingly admits he would have killed Raymond Frolander, 18, if not for his son stopping him. Mr Browning beat Frolander unconscious after walking in on the pervert performing a sex act on his son while naked. 'I just snapped,' he admitted after the beating at his Florida home - he will not be charged with any crime for his actions. Frolander admitted to police he has been molesting the boy for three years and was charged with sexual battery on a child under 12. The father created a Gofundme donations page asking for $1million for his son - but later took it down."''

*'''[https://www.courthousenews.com/doing-gods-work-with-a-hammer/ ‘Doing God’s Work’ With a Hammer] (2011)'''
*:''"A man attacked a 74-year-old registered sex offender with a hammer, claiming he was "doing God's work," police said. John Joseph Huffmaster, 29, of Hazelwood, allegedly crossed the street at about 6 a.m. on June 16 to the home of his 74-year-old neighbor under the guise of asking to borrow some sugar. When the man agreed to give him the sugar, Huffmaster walked inside the house and attacked him with a hammer, police said. Huffmaster then called police and told them that the man was molesting a child and that he had gone there to stop it, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported. Police arrived, but did not find a child. They found the neighbor semi-conscious and bleeding, with multiple skull and facial fractures."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081019044538/http://www.russiatoday.com/features/news/31969 Half a million for a paedophile's head] (2008)'''
*:''A parents' committee in Ekaterinburg, a city of over a million people in the Urals, has decided to tackle the problem of paedophilia using their own methods. They have instigated a "reward for the head of a paedophile". They will award 100,000 rubles (roughly US$ 4,000) to anyone who helps hand a paedophile over to the police and 500,000 rubles (US$ 19,000) to anyone who kills or severely injures one. The first reward has already been given to Evgeny Ivin, a student, who detained a paedophile and thereby saved a nine-year-old girl from rape earlier this year. The aspect of the story which most worried the committee was the fact that, allegedly, three passers-by saw the crime being committed, before the fourth, Ivin, decided to intervene. The new award will, according to them, make ordinary citizens more attentive in such situations. The second, more substantial, award is destined for those who have been jailed for "dealing" with a paedophile. The committee insists that society turns away from such individuals, but their actions can be understood. The money, according to the committee, can be used to pay attorneys and for moral compensation that the government all too often doesn't provide."''
[[File:Pedoph.png|thumb|Would be [[Pedophobia|pedophobic]] murderer Jason Browning had his 11-year old son to thank for preventing such an outcome after walking in on a homosexual encounter and brutalizing the older partner. He was still not charged for the attack, despite his cynical attempts to capitalize financially upon the "heroic" act.]]
*'''[https://www.ipce.info/newsletters/e_26/absurdities.htm Man walks free after stabbing pedophile] (2008)'''
*:''"A BLIND man who once acted as a lookout for a robbery yesterday walked from court after pleading guilty to stabbing a confessed pedophile. Raymond Cox - who has a list of criminal convictions 10 pages long - stabbed his neighbour after discovering he was a convicted child sex offender. The pair were drinking together when the neighbour confessed he had served time in prison for having sex with minors."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081003155050/http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,24425596-2761,00.html Police issue stern warning to vigilante] (2008)'''
*:''"LEAFLETS naming a convicted sex offender and his victims have been distributed in Booragoon, prompting police to warn people against vigilante action. ''[...]'' The pamphlets were designed to look like official documentation with the WA Police and Neighbourhood Watch logos printed on them. ''[...]'' "We are concerned about this vigilante type action, said Senior Sergeant Paul van Noort, officer-in-charge of Palmyra police station. ``Quite clearly, it's not an official document but somebody has been distributing information about a potential sex offender and unfortunately it also lists names of innocent parties as well. ``That can be very distressing for the victim and also the families as well"''

*'''Pueblo Chieftain article from October 18 (2008)'''
*:''"Reputation is a hard thing to restore. One Puebloan is trying, however, after his neighborhood was plastered with fliers last week falsely stating he was a child sex offender. "I was very fortunate that most of my neighbors that I talked to thought it was a bunch of crap," the 67-year-old man who preferred not to be identified said Friday. "My wife and I went door-to-door to tell people that I am not a sexual offender. I wanted to make sure that people who have children in the neighborhood knew it was a bunch of crap." As many as 25 fliers were distributed in the victim's neighborhood between midnight Oct. 6 and 4:30 a.m. Oct. 7, according to police. The fliers were distributed under the guise of a neighborhood watch group. It stated that the victim was charged with sexual assault on a child and stressed children's safety. "Remember there is no cure for these people," the flier said. "Help each other by watching your neighbor's children . . . Protect the Children!"''<ref>Nick Bonham's article from the Chieftain, now unarchived at '''chieftain.com/articles/2008/10/18/news/local/doc48f978e821a9e505539832.txt'''</ref>

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081218054813/https://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/man-stabbed-16-times-by.4790119.jp Man stabbed 16 times by son after downloading child porn] (2008)'''
*:''"Martyn Croft, aged 31, was sentenced to seven-and-a-half years' imprisonment last month for repeatedly stabbing his father Brian during a violent confrontation over child porn. He drove to Kingsthorpe from Birmingham armed with an eight-inch kitchen knife in January, angry after discovering his father's interest in abusive images of children. After a violent confrontation in the early hours of January 24, he attacked his father in his bedroom, stabbing him 16 times in the back and chest, leaving him for dead."'

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20071203094131/https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20780983/ Police: Vigilante justice led to unintended death] (2007)'''
*:''"Everybody in this little mountain community knew that Timothy Chandler had been arrested on child pornography charges. It was in the newspaper and all over the TV news. Two of Chandler’s neighbors decided to do something about it, police say. They were accused of trying to scare him off by setting fire to his tiny house tucked away in a hardscrabble Appalachian hollow. Chandler, 53, escaped from the flames. But his wife was killed in what authorities were calling an example of vigilante justice. ''[...]'' “I really wish it wasn’t me who got out,” Chandler told Knoxville television station WBIR. “I wish it was her. She didn’t deserve that.” ''[...]'' The fire is one of many examples of suspected [[vigilantism]] against sex offenders, ranging from harassment and arson to more violent crimes. A Nova Scotia man used Maine’s sex offender registry last year to find and fatally shoot two registered sex offenders. Two convicted child rapists were killed in Washington state."''

===Police-supported===

:''See also: [[To Catch a Predator]], [[Vigilantism]] and any number of [[Wikipedia:Anti-pedophile activism|Anti "Paedophile" Organizations]] listed in our [[List of CSA/anti-pedophile proponents|compendium]].''

*'''[https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna31214450 Philly case rekindles debate on vigilante justice] (2009)'''
*:''"A dozen neighbors were so outraged by the rape of an 11-year-old girl that they chased a suspect and beat him, holding him until police arrived. Two of them were honored with an $11,500 police union reward even before the beaten man was charged in the girl's assault. Hailed by their community as heroes, none of the neighbors is being charged in the beating. "We put out a call to bring this savage beast off the street, and they stepped up," McNesby ''[LEO]'' said of the decision to hand out reward money Friday to Fernando Genval and David Vargas. "I think that these two guys did an outstanding job." Police distributed a photo of 27-year-old Jose Carrasquillo, calling him a person of interest in the case ''[...]'' '''They ''[locals]'' roughed up the first man they targeted — not Carrasquillo.''' Later, in an altercation caught by a store surveillance camera, they found and confronted Carrasquillo, beating him with their hands, feet and what appears on the videotape to be a board or a large stick. Carrasquillo was taken to a hospital in serious condition and was released into police custody two days later."''

==False accusations==

[[File:Sra.jpg|thumb|A 1994 "expert" in "satanic indicators".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q5kDm9eOTM Video (YT) - Got Satanists?]</ref>]]
False accusations are a frequent occurence within this emotive arena, and are thus dotted throughout this article on adverse consequences. What we repeatedly see is that the supposed "magnitude" of this issue makes it incredibly easy for authorities to react in a way that may have life-altering consequences for the falsely accused.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20061219022834/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/08/05/nsue05.xml&sSheet=/news/2001/08/05/ixhome.html Businessman sues police who told school he is sex pest]</ref>

*'''[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/849098.stm Mob mistakes man for sex abuser] (2000)
*:''"A mob has attacked the home of a man after mistaking him for one of the paedophiles "named and shamed" by a Sunday newspaper. Iain Armstrong, 49, of Bradford, Greater Manchester, was confronted by residents who thought he was a child abuser named by The News of the World following of the murder of eight-year-old Sarah Payne. Police said a panic button had been installed in Mr Armstrong's house out of fears for his safety. It was activated at 2100 GMT on Sunday after a brick was thrown through the window of a neighbouring property. The News of the World's decision to publish its list of known child abusers has already been condemned amid fears it will encourage such vigilante attacks on both convicted paedophiles and innocent people."''

===Leading to massacre of children and others===

Accusations (particularly false or speculative ones) are sometimes seen to have tragic secondary consequences for those other than the accused. Such accusations, combined with harassment from the child protection bureaucracy, were the explicit reasons given by the perpetrator of the [[Wikipedia:Dunblane massacre#Perpetrator|Dunblane Massacre]]. If enough men are unfairly targeted in such a way, it is only a matter of time before the authorities end up picking a fight with someone who is willing to carry out unforgivable acts<ref>[https://www.rt.com/usa/514392-florida-fbi-agents-shot/ FBI confirms 2 agents killed, 3 wounded in suspected child porn raid in Florida], [https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/08/australia/australia-child-abuse-arrests-rescue-fbi-agents-intl-hnk/index.html Dozens arrested over alleged child sex abuse following murder of two FBI agents ]</ref> as [[Wikipedia:Murder of Joanne Witt|revenge]].

In late-2022, a crazed gunman shot 5 dead in a Colorado Gay Nightclub.<ref>[https://www.them.us/story/club-q-colorado-springs-lgbtq-nightclub-shooting-drag-brunch?utm_source=msn&utm_medium=syndication&mbid=synd_msn_rss At Least Five Dead and 18 Injured in LGBTQ+ Nightclub Shooting in Colorado]</ref> The nightclub had advertised an "all ages drag brunch" on that very day, in a year marred by the emergence of [[Pedophobia|pedophobic]] attacks on the LGBT community, using the false [[grooming]] trope.

===Defamation===

Academics in particular are targeted for defamation, due to hysterical attitudes. The "pedophile slur" has been repeatedly hurled at controversial male and trans academics such as [[Allyn Walker]], [[Stephen Kershnar]], [[Richard Yuill]], [[Jacob Breslow]] and [[Thomas Hubbard]], as it is widely (and sometimes wrongly) assumed to be a "zero risk strategy", i.e. "if you throw enough mud at the wall, some of it will stick". See our gallery at the top of the page, for some examples.

===Worship of satan, blood libel, "Recovered Memory"===

This is a particularly insidious form of moral panic, whose repercussions are still felt.<ref>[https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/10/30/13413864/satanic-panic-ritual-abuse-history-explained The history of Satanic Panic in the US — and why it's not over yet - Vox]</ref> See for example, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_panic Wikipedia]. Fortunately, this specific form of moral panic is less active right now, but lives on in alternative-right [[conspiratorialism]], QAnon, etc, slowing political progress and providing a distraction handle to divert attention away from the wrongdoings of public officials. Police agencies in the UK have also claimed that SRA is still a problem.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220319031245/https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/caa/child-abuse/faith-based-abuse Met Police: Faith Based Abuse]</ref>

===Botched [[child pornography]] investigations===

In the late 00s, [[Wikipedia:Operation Ore|Operation Ore]] was uncovered as a large scale injustice. Similarly, many questions remain unanswered concerning Ore's American counterpart, [[Wikipedia:Operation Avalanche (child pornography investigation)|Avalanche]] (see gallery at head of page). If you are so inclined, find a decent mirror of [https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://inquisition21.com Inquisition 21] from back in the day, and please contact us if you have more information as we would like to publish more thorough accounts of these investigations.

===As an easy handle for state intervention===

In March, 2009, [[NAMBLA]] were accused by the New York Post and MSNBC of putting a $10,000 bounty on the head of Attorney General [[Andrew Cuomo]] following a completely anonymous posting on usenet, made by someone claiming to represent them. MSNBC claimed that the bounty was "sponsored by the monsters at NAMBLA, the nation's largest pro-pedophilia group".<ref>[http://www.nypost.com/seven/03092009/news/columnists/perv_group_puts_10g_hit_on_andy_158663.htm PERV GROUP PUTS 10G ‘HIT’ ON ANDY - NYP]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090312042014/https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29593394 Pedophiles Gunning for Cuomo - MSNBC]</ref> Apparently unaware or ignorant of the fact that such claims were made frequently, and in similar mocking-tones on newsgroups, where NAMBLA is the butt of numerous jokes, American authorities used this threat as the launchpad for a criminal investigation, again, gleefully reported upon by the ''Post''.<ref>[http://www.nypost.com/seven/03102009/news/regionalnews/probe_fails_to_keep_price_off_cuomos_hea_158910.htm PROBE FAILS TO KEEP PRICE OFF CUOMO’S HEAD - NYP]</ref> Thus, gutter press journalists were effectively allowed to defame a virtually defunct and cash-strapped organization<ref>[http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=88255 Is NAMBLA Gunning (Literally) for New York AG? - EdgeBoston]</ref> that would have been able to sue against such claims if it had $10,000 at its disposal.

NAMBLA had previously foiled an FBI attempt to smear them for unrelated crimes.<ref>[http://library.lol/main/599CD8D53EF0AFA4DE7A9F7B102C68A2 A Witchhunt Foiled: The FBI vs. NAMBLA] - Full Book scan download on Libgen.</ref>

==Unconstitutionality==

*'''[http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0814/p09s01-coop.html "Protecting our kids – or jeopardizing everyone's freedom?"] (2008)'''
*:''"Residency restrictions, unconstitutional laws that bar sex offenders from living in a specified area, are on the rise ''[...]'' Twenty-two states have prohibited sex offenders from living within a minimum distance of family facilities, such as schools and day-care centers. The distance ranges from 500 feet to five times that. And further restrictions are on the way. ''[...]'' The more crucial problem, though, is that residency restrictions clearly violate the constitutional limits on statutory law. Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution reads in part: "No bill, or attainder, or ex post facto law shall be passed." The Latin phrase "ex post facto" literally translates as "from after the fact." The Founding Fathers wisely realized that law must not be retroactive. ''[...]'' Most state laws require their state to build schools and family facilities according to the population of a constituency. Therefore, inevitably a case arises when changes in demographics require construction of a school within the restricted range of a convicted child sex offender. We may feel no sympathy when an ex-convict is forced to sell his home because of it, but this practice is retroactive punishment."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081204064252/http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2008/11/25/georgia_sex_offender.html Court strikes down life sentence for sex offender] (2008)'''
*:''"In a 6-1 decision, written by Justice Robert Benham, the court said the life sentence imposed upon 26-year-old Cedric Bradshaw of Statesboro violates the Eighth Amendment’s guarantee against cruel and unusual punishment. “We conclude the imposition of a sentence of life imprisonment is so harsh in comparison to the crime for which it was imposed that it is unconstitutional,” Benham wrote."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20090502005908/http://cfcamerica.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=507:the-girls-diary-later-revealed-she-had-been-sneaking-out-of-her-parents-bloomfield-township-home-in-the-middle-of-the-night-to-have-oral-and-anal-sex-with-22-boys-and-men-&catid=3:news&Itemid=1 CFC America on "Oakland youth in sex diary case found dead"] (2009)'''
*:''"Pleading to seduction as Fawcett did in 2002 meant his name would not appear on the sex-offender list. But changes last year require those who pleaded guilty to seduction to appear on the list, said the county's Chief Deputy Prosecutor Deborah Carley. ''[...]'' His parents called it a devastating blow to their son. The state enacted New Laws and applied them Retroactively, which is against the United States Constitution. His parents said it was wrong to for the state to break an agreement, their plea agreement, and do this to their son. They said they believe the plea agreement he made two years ago should stand."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20090726094327/http://www.itworld.com/legal/61143/supreme-court-refuses-internet-age-restrictions-case Supreme Court refuses Internet age restrictions case] (2009)'''
*:''"For over a decade the government has been trying to thwart freedom of speech on the Internet, and for years the courts have been finding the attempts unconstitutional," Chris Hansen, senior staff attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), said in a statement. "It is not the role of the government to decide what people can see and do on the Internet. Those are personal decisions that should be made by individuals and their families."''

==Broad sweep registries==

:''See [[Research: Recidivism and other offending figures#Facts and figures according to SOL Reform Groups and their allies|our research article]].''

When the same overbearing restrictions are applied to minor offenses (public urination, "[[statutory rape]]", etc), we simultaneously undermine the magnitude of serious crimes and impose cruel and unusual punishments on less serious offenders. See [[Research: Recidivism and other offending figures#Facts and figures according to SOL Reform Groups and their allies|SOR problems]].

==Homelessness==

[[File:Sotents.jpg|thumb|A Floridian sex-offender "tent city" in 2008]]
Homelessness is a widely acknowledged result of [[Jessica's Law]] and almost certainly increases the rate of offending. Ghettos such as [[Wikipedia:Miracle Village (community)|Miracle Village]] have sprung up in response. Homelessness is an ongoing problem that does not receive as much attention as it did in the 00s.

*'''[https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/california-news/calif-seeks-solutions-homeless-sex-offender-rate/20977/ Panel: Calif. Seeks Solutions to Homeless Sex Offender Rate] (2017)'''
*:''"California has as many homeless sex offenders now as it did 2½ years ago, when a state Supreme Court ruling that overturned restrictions on where they could live was seen as a way to increase housing options and allow law enforcement to better track them. Sex offenders must register with the state and provide new addresses when they move. Those who are homeless are less apt to keep their locations updated and more likely to commit new crimes. The number of homeless offenders more than tripled after voters banned sex offenders from living near schools and parks a decade ago, and it was thought the number would fall with the Supreme Court's March 2015 decision. But as of early July, there were 6,329 homeless sex offenders on the California Justice Department's sex offender registry — down only a hair from the 6,422 in January 2015."''

*'''[https://www.wral.com/homeless-sex-offenders-living-in-tents-in-busy-section-of-fayetteville/20380739/ Homeless sex offenders living in tents in busy section of Fayetteville] (2022)'''
*:''"There are 843 registered sex offenders living in Cumberland County. For dozens in Fayetteville, their home is a tent alongside the road. Deputies in the Sheriff's Office Sex Offender Registration Enforcement Unit (SOREU) learned the group of offenders are homeless and stay in a tent community along where the busy Martin Luther King Jr. Freeway (Highway 87) goes over Gillespie Street. Some live under the overpass while others live in a nearby field beside Gillespie Street. A man who didn't want be identified told WRAL News he is a registered sex offender who lives in a tent. He has a job and was living with his sister, but the law requires sex offenders to live at least 1,000 feet from a school, which she didn't, he explained. "It's also hard to find houses and hard to find rent," he said."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20150719141727/https://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/10/23/3583307/in-miami-dade-sex-offenders-are-relegated-to-outdoor-encampments/ Inside Miami’s Hidden Tent City For ‘Sex Offenders’] (2014)'''
*:''"In 2009, Miami-Dade County drew national criticism when reports emerged that more than 100 individuals on the sex offender registry were camping under the Julia Tuttle Causeway in the middle of the Biscayne Bay with the blessing of the corrections department, because a patchwork of restrictive laws made it so they had nowhere else to go. In response, officials cleared out the camp and changed the law, in a shift that was supposed to give these offenders a habitable place to live. But four years after that new law was passed, those on the sex offender registry who consider Miami-Dade County home are just camping somewhere else — in makeshift encampments on the outskirts of the county near a railroad track. There is no sanitary water source, no bathrooms, and no shelter from the elements. Many of them used to sleep in an empty warehouse. But after the owners complained, they moved north to a small strip of land, where the only shelter they can find is from their own tents or cars, and sometimes another abandoned warehouse. ''[...]'' How does this happen? Like many places, Miami-Dade County has restrictions on where those on the sex offender registry can live, often known as “child safety zones.” In their case, they cannot live within 2,500 feet of a school. Miami-Dade’s law was passed two years ago after several even stricter laws that created buffer zones around a range of facilities were deemed too restrictive. But since the law was passed, more and more places have been classified as “schools.” And the significant radius — much greater than the 1,000-foot requirement in the state law — has left those on the sex offender registry with few options for affordable, habitable living space. For a time, these individuals were living at River Park mobile home. But residents lobbied to have a youth emergency homeless shelter defined as a “school” under the law, and dozens of those on the offender registry were ejected."''

*'''[http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-offenders14-2009jan14,0,1944251.story Panel: Take another look at sex offender restrictions] (2009)'''
*:''"Reporting from Sacramento -- A state panel is urging the governor and legislators to change "Jessica's Law," saying its restrictions on where sex offenders can live are counterproductive and calling the nearly $25 million a year spent to house them a poor use of taxpayers' money. The residency restrictions, passed by voters more than two years ago in Proposition 83, have never been shown to prevent new crimes and may reduce public safety, the panel says. Since 70% of voters approved the initiative, "the availability of suitable housing has plummeted," the state's Sex Offender Management Board said in a report sent to lawmakers this week. The state previously had more modest residency limits that applied only to certain sex offenders. Jessica's Law expanded the restrictions to all sex offenders and greatly reduced the locations where they could reside. Barring sex offenders from living within 2,000 feet of schools, parks and other areas where children gather has driven many into homelessness, an unstable situation that can propel them back to crime, according to the board. State corrections officials say they find housing and pay rent for about 800 who are on parole, but they cannot house them all; the number of homeless sex offenders on parole is 12 times as large as it was when the law was passed."''

==Unenforceable and expensive laws==

:''For more [[SOL Reform]] arguments and links, see [[Research: Recidivism and other offending figures]].''

*'''[https://www.oocities.org/three_strikes_legal/sex_offenders_danger_forever.html Jessica's Law is an expensive failure] (2008)'''
*:''"By now, it should be apparent that California voters made a serious mistake when they passed Proposition 83, the 2006 ballot initiative popularly known as Jessica's law. The law requires lifetime monitoring of sex offenders -- not only those charged with child sexual abuse and rapists whose victims were adults, but also those convicted of consensual sex with a teenager and even misdemeanor indecent exposure. It bars offenders from living within 2,000 feet of a school or park. By the end of 2007, it was obvious that the law was a failure. Almost no local police agencies in California were enforcing it, partly because it was unenforceable and partly because even trying to enforce it proved prohibitively expensive. ''[...]'' In practice, as the Times reported, it has led to the state contracting with 79 psychologists and psychiatrists to do the evaluations. Last year, 14 of them billed the state more than a half-million dollars apiece for those services. One billed the state for more than $1.5 million in 2007. Such payments to contractors might be worthwhile if the evaluations were producing clear benefits. But it isn't. The evaluations were supposed to be used to determine if sex offenders should be committed to a mental hospital after serving their sentences. But the Times found that the number of commitments was essentially the same for the 18-month periods before and after voters approved the law."''

==Psychic interventions and inferences==

Most people know that superstition, fabrication and mass psychosis have marked some of the past "unearthly" CSA panics such as the [[Wikipedia: Satanic Panic|Satanic Panic]]. But while coercive "recovery" of traumatic memories, grifting therapists and their corrupt relationships with lawyers are some of the better-known aspects of the CSA Industry, even ''psychic mediums'' have been allowed to gain ground.

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080619195905/http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_23845.aspx CityNews Exclusive: The Mother, The Child, The School Board And The Psychic] (2008)'''
*:''"Leduc's weird tale began on May 30, when she dropped young Victoria off for class at Terry Fox Elementary and headed in to work, only to receive a frantic phone call from the school telling her it was urgent she come back right away. The frightened mother rushed back to the campus and was stunned by what she heard - the principal, vice-principal and her daughter's teacher were all waiting for her in the office, telling her they'd received allegations that Victoria had been the victim of sexual abuse - and that the CAS had been notified. ''[...]'' "The teacher looked and me and said: 'We have to tell you something. The educational assistant who works with Victoria went to see a psychic last night, and the psychic asked the educational assistant at that particular time if she works with a little girl by the name of "V." And she said 'yes, I do.' And she said, 'well, you need to know that that child is being sexually abused by a man between the ages of 23 and 26.'" ''[...]'' But things got worse when school officials used the "evidence" and accepted the completely unsubstantiated word of the seer by reporting the case to Children's Aid, which promptly opened a file on the family. "They reported me to Children's Aid," Leduc declares, still disbelieving. "Based on a psychic!" ''[...]'' As a result, she's refused to send Victoria back to class - or to the educational assistant who allegedly started the entire chain of events in the first place. As a result of her stress and the need to stay home with her daughter, Leduc is now unable to work, has no place to send her child for the rest of the year, isn't sure where she'll go when school begins in September and is seeking legal advice."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080430175322/https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/leeds-paedophile-guilty-thanks-to.4033081.jp Leeds paedophile guilty thanks to man who 'talks to dead'] (2008)'''
*:''"A psychic who called upon the dead to expose a paedophile who preyed on girls as young as nine today said: "Justice has been done." Using his mystic powers Patrick Hutchinson sensed a 20-year-old woman's demons from her childhood and helped her confront her abuser for the first time. After a five-and-a-half-day trial a Leeds Crown Court jury yesterday convicted her tormentor Terrance Dunstan, 61, of five charges of indecently assaulting three girls aged from nine to 11 between 1997 and 2001. ''[...]'' Mr Hutchinson repeatedly asked if she had been abused as a child until she burst into tears and told the friend she was out with the terrible secret she had kept hidden for around ten years. ''[...]'' Dunstan escaped prison in March 2005 and was handed a community order after admitting four charges of indecently assaulting three different girls all aged under 16 between 1989 and 2004. Father-of-eight Dunstan claimed he was the victim of a plot to get him jailed during his trial which started last Monday. He said the three girls who made complaints against him had conspired with previous victims. He said they were angry he escaped jail after being convicted of abusing them."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20100601035310/http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/national-news/paedophile_denies_carrying_out_exorcisms_1_641494 Paedophile denies carrying out exorcisms] (2010)'''
*:''"Convicted paedophile Mohammed Anjum, 53, of Egmont Road, spoke out to deny the claims from the mother of one his alleged victims as he gave evidence during his trial at Teesside Crown Court. She accused him of being a black magician and exorcist who tried to kill his own father and thought she was possessed by demons. During an extraordinary testimony the mother, who cannot be identified, shouted at the defendant from the witness box: "Sexually abuse my child now, I dare you, in front of Judge Fox. I dare you. You coward. Gary Glitter. Disgusting. Dirty pervert. I'm enjoying this. I'm enjoying speaking the truth." Giving evidence on Wednesday, the mother said she once saw Anjum "glaring at my son like a savage beast". ''[...]'' She told the court: "What he had done in my religion was write something which makes you a disbeliever. He'd written magic, black magic, a spell." The mother told officers Anjum and his wife, who are now estranged, were black magicians. She talked of "magic love spells" and likened the couple to Fred and Rose West. Responding to the allegations, defence barrister Tony Hawks said to Anjum: "I never thought I would have to ask this during my career at the bar, are you a black magician?" "No," the bearded defendant replied."''

==Banning of children & child photography==

With widespread uneasiness surrounding the imputed motives of people - especially men who volunteer to work with children or photograph children at events, completely cancelling clubs and events or banning photography is often the easier option.

*'''[https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/08/22/a-dad-took-pictures-of-his-son-at-a-doctors-request-then-google-labeled-him-a-sex-offender/ A Dad Took Pictures of His Son at a Doctor’s Request, then Google Labeled Him a Sex Offender] (2022)'''
*:''"In a recent article, the New York Times tells the story of a father who attempted to seek telemedicine treatment for his son amidst the coronavirus pandemic, sending photos of his son to the doctor for inspection at the request of the medical office. Google tagged the images as child abuse material, disabled his account, and reported him to the police. ''[...]'' in February 2021 noticed that his son appeared to be suffering from a medical issue affecting his genitals which were swollen and painful. Mark’s wife called an advice nurse at their health care provider and scheduled an emergency consultation by video. The nurse instructed Mark and his wife to send photos of the medical issue to the doctor ahead of time so that he could review them before the consultation. Mark and his wife did so, using their iPhone to take photos of their child’s genitals. The doctor quickly diagnosed the issue and prescribed antibiotics which treated the problem. But just two days after taking the photos of his son, Mark received a notification on his phone informing him that his account had been disabled because of “harmful content” that was “a severe violation of Google’s policies and might be illegal.” A link titled “learn more” directed him to a list of possible reasons, including “child sexual abuse & exploitation.” Mark immediately filled out a form requesting a review of Google’s decision and explaining his son’s medical issue. But quickly Mark found that not only had he lost access to his emails, contact information for friends and former colleagues, and documentation of his son’s first years of life, but also his Google Fi account shut down which meant that he had to get a new phone number with another carrier. A few days later, Google responded that it would not be reinstating his account. Later, Mark learned that Google had also flagged a video he made and the San Francisco Police Department had begun to investigate him."''
::[Editor: This was not an isolated incident<ref>[https://www.rt.com/news/561343-google-parents-child-abuse-algorithm/ RT.com, another dad caught out by Google CP algo]</ref>]

*'''[https://www.denverpost.com/2018/01/24/arizona-bath-time-photos-child-protective-services/ How an Arizona couple’s innocent bath time photos of their kids set off a 10-year legal saga] (2018)'''
*:''"A Walmart employee had flagged the bath time photos as pornographic, the detective told the parents. One showed the girls wrapped in towels with their arms around each other; another showed their exposed bottoms. The Demarees said they were harmless shots of the children goofing around, no different than what you’d expect to find in any family scrapbook. But police and social workers launched a full-blown sex abuse investigation, raiding the couple’s home and putting the girls in protective custody for a month while they interviewed dozens of family members and friends about whether the Demarees were child sex offenders. ''[...]'' On Tuesday, after a series of defeats in the case, a federal appeals court affirmed what the Demarees have argued all along: that their children were taken from them for no good reason. ''[...]'' The decision, which came nearly 10 years after the parents’ initial encounter with police, revived the case against the two social workers after a lower court dismissed it in 2014. That court ruled that the social workers, as employees of the Arizona government, were entitled to “qualified immunity,” meaning they were protected from liability in lawsuits arising from their professional duties. ''[...]'' After questioning the parents, police took the children in for interviews and medical exams to look for signs of sexual abuse. While the exams were being conducted, they got a search warrant and raided the couple’s home, seizing computers, cellphones, undeveloped film and other materials relevant to a child pornography probe, the court wrote. ''[...]'' Police interviewed about three dozen friends, family members and co-workers of the Demarees in the course of their sex-abuse investigation, according to the lawsuit. The Demarees also underwent psychological evaluation, according to ABC News."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20211021094239/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2164341/Child-protection-rules-could-see-youngsters-banned-from-sport-and-hobby-clubs.html Child protection rules could see youngsters banned from sport and hobby clubs] (2008)'''
*:''"Children could be barred from joining sports and hobby clubs because of the increasing burden of red tape, campaigners fear. Organisations which run activities for youngsters are already struggling to recruit volunteers because they must undergo criminal records checks. But when a new child protection database is introduced next year - which one in four adults will have to sign at a cost of £64 each - it is feared that many groups which admit members of all ages will decide it is cheaper and simpler to exclude children. Campaigners say this will leave teenagers unable to take part in activities which are good for their development, and makes a mockery of Government attempts to crack down on youth obesity and anti-social behaviour ''[...]'' "Some clubs have closed their doors to children, and that's a real shame."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081012050455/http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scotland/Parents-warned-on-gymnastic-photos.4352550.jp Parents warned on gymnastic photos] (2008)'''
*:''"FEAR of paedophiles on the internet has prompted Scots sports chiefs to warn parents and coaches not to photograph young athletes in their gym gear. Controversial new advice from governing body Scottish Gymnastics says photographs of youngsters should only be taken if they are wearing tracksuits."''

*'''[https://www.oldfamilyfirst.org.nz/2008/06/parents-banned-from-snapping-kids-at-sport/ Archived article from the Herald Sun] (2008)'''
*:''"Netball, basketball, rugby league, AFL, cricket, soccer and baseball clubs have imposed rules to prevent photos of young players being taken without the consent of all parents and coaches. NSW's Macarthur junior baseball league president Maud Goldfinch said parents had to sign a form confirming they would not take photographs without permission. Ms Goldfinch said that as a parent, she did not agree with the policy, which deprived children of happy sporting memories. "''

*'''Story from ThisIsLincolnshire (2008)'''
*:''"Parents are now banned from taking photographs of their own children at most family venues across Lincolnshire, new research has revealed. There are picture bans in places ranging from North Kesteven Sports Centre in North Hykeham to Crazee Bongos indoor play area in Sleaford. An Echo survey shows that even Superbowl bowling alley in Lincoln stops parents from capturing magical childhood moments."''<ref>Dead, most probably malformed link unarchived at '''thisislincolnshire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=156130&command=displayContent&sourceNode=242285&home=yes&more_nodeId1=156139&contentPK=21161539''' with no text result in search engines</ref>

*'''[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1035315/Father-branded-pervert--photographing-children-public-park.html Father-of-three branded a 'pervert' - for photographing his own children in public park] (2008)'''
*:''"When Gary Crutchley started taking pictures of his children playing on an inflatable slide he thought they would be happy reminders of a family day out. But the innocent snaps of seven-year-old Cory, and Miles, five, led to him being called a ‘pervert’. The woman running the slide at Wolverhampton Show asked him what he was doing and other families waiting in the queue demanded that he stop. One even accused him of photographing youngsters to put the pictures on the internet."''

==Attacks on heritage==

*'''[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-smashes-statue-hammer-bbc-b1991884.html Man with hammer seen attacking statue outside BBC HQ] (2022)'''
::''"A controversial statue over the entrance to the BBC’s Broadcasting House in London has been damaged by a man with a hammer. The individual used a ladder to reach the statue by [[Eric Gill]] while another man on the ground shouted about the sculptor’s history of paedophilia. The BBC has previously faced calls to remove Prospero and Ariel, which was installed in 1933. Gill’s diaries, published decades after his death in 1940, revealed he sexually abused his daughters and family dog. Shards of stone have been falling from the BBC building and the man has written the words “noose all paedos” on the statue. Images from the scene appear to show the penis of the child in the piece has been removed. Police, who were called to the scene at around 4.15pm, said they were trying to “engage” with the man wielding the hammer, and have arrested another man on suspicion of conspiracy to commit criminal damage."''

*'''[https://www.huffpost.com/entry/florida-principal-out-after-viewing-of-michelangelos-david-upsets-parents_n_641c621ee4b0fef15248d867/amp Florida Principal Out After Viewing Of Michelangelo's 'David' Upsets Parents] (2023)'''
::''"The principal of Florida’s Tallahassee Classical School is out of a job after parents complained that their sixth-grade children were shown Michelangelo’s 16th century “David” sculpture, with one parent calling it “pornographic,” the Tallahassee Democrat first reported. The now-former principal, Hope Carrasquilla, told HuffPost the situation was also “a little more complicated than that,” noting that the usual protocol is to send parents a letter before students are shown such classical artwork. ''[...]'' One parent was “point-blank upset,” Carrasquilla continued, and “felt her child should not be viewing those pieces.” The board of the charter school decided Monday to give the principal the choice to resign or be fired after less than a year in the job. She was the school’s third principal since it opened in the fall of 2020, per the Tallahassee Democrat. ''[...]'' Carrasquilla said she had taught in classical education for a decade and knew that “once in a while you get a parent who gets upset about Renaissance art” — hence the letter. ''[...]'' “Parental rights trump everything else,” ''[School Board Chair]'' Bishop said. ''[...]'' “They didn’t like the woke indoctrination that was going on,” ''[he added] [...]'' “We don’t use pronouns,” Bishop said. “We don’t teach CRT and we don’t ever mention 1619 — those are not appropriate subjects for our kids.”"''

*'''[https://alt.sculpture.narkive.com/NvDEwCL5/teacher-reprimanded-after-student-sees-nude-art-on-museum-trip Teacher reprimanded after student sees nude art on museum trip] (2006)'''
::''"School board members have voted to not renew the contract of a veteran art teacher who was reprimanded after one of her fifth-grade students saw a nude sculpture during a school trip to a museum. Sydney McGee has been on paid administrative leave from Fisher Elementary School since Friday, said her attorney Rogge Dunn. ''[...]'' "If they had good reason to fire her, they would have, but they don't," Dunn said. "It's mind-boggling.""''
::[See also<ref>[https://www.southcoasttoday.com/story/news/nation-world/2006/10/09/fired-art-teacher-sparks-controversy/50376622007/ South Coast Today: Sydney McGee controversy.]</ref>]

*'''[http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Vickers%27_Scandalous_Caption_and_the_Library_of_Congress Vickers' Scandalous Caption and the Library of Congress] - Percy Foundation Wiki (2012)'''
::''"Of all the many scholars who try to impose contemporary "morals" onto depictions of ancient lives, Michael Vickers is one of the most egregious offenders. Recent discourse about his labeling of a painted vase with pederastic art at the Ashmolean, where he is Curator of Greek and Roman Antiquities, demonstrates his prejudices and disregard for historical reality. With his defense of that outrageous caption of his, he has outdone even his fellow British academician James Davidson in The Greeks and Greek Love: A Bold New Exploration of the Ancient World, Orion, 2006. The vase in question, depicting a pederastic scene at a palestra where a man and a youth are clearly in the midst of sexual foreplay, was labeled some time ago by Vickers to read, simply, '''"Paedophile and victim."'''"''

*'''[https://www.today.com/popculture/paul-reubens-pleads-guilty-obscenity-charge-wbna4563512 Paul Reubens pleads guilty to obscenity charge] (2004)'''
::''"“Pee-wee Herman” actor Paul Reubens was sentenced to three years probation Friday after pleading guilty to a misdemeanor obscenity charge involving photographs seized from his erotica collection. The former star of the “Pee-wee’s Playhouse” children’s TV show and two “Pee-wee” movies won’t be allowed unsupervised contact with minors during the probation period. Under terms of a plea agreement that Superior Court Judge Carol H. Rehm approved, Reubens also agreed to pay a $100 fine and enter a counseling program for one year. ''[...]'' Evidence seized included images of minors with their genitals exposed, Moses contended. “That mischaracterizes the art collection seized,” Reubens’ lawyer, Blair Berk said Friday. “If that means a black-and-white tintype from 1901 with a young man of indeterminate, 17- to 19-year-old age, laying on the beach after having gone skinny-dipping ... then they got it.” “It was clear from the start that we, along with the many distinguished art experts supporting Paul’s art photography collection, vehemently disagreed with the city prosecutor’s view of what constitutes art,” Berk said. In a statement, Reubens said he was glad that the child pornography charge had been dismissed without “a costly circus-like trial.”"''

==Banning of contact==

In the 90s and 00s, an increasing number of public facilities started introducing regulations to "[[Safeguarding|safeguard]]" children, or otherwise reduce the risk of even fleeting contact with adult strangers. One now deleted story informed us that:

<blockquote>''Library staff have been warned not to put children on their knees during story times for fear they will be branded paedophiles. Staff have also been told not to "lead a child by the hand" out of the library to look for a missing parent under a new policy introduced by education chiefs. As well as protecting employees from "vulnerable situations", the policy also warns librarians to keep an eye out for potential paedophiles and to ask adults acting suspiciously near a children's area or activity to move on or leave. Library staff will be told to refrain from physical contact where possible, even when they are trying to comfort a distressed or injured child.''</blockquote>

This scheme of "protections", we now take for granted.

===Sexism===

*'''[https://www.kidspot.com.au/parenting/parents-dont-believe-men-should-be-working-in-childcare/news-story/97b0eee9607c4983107e79c1f2d3d20e 'Parents don’t believe men should be working in childcare'] (2017)'''
::''"A pair of parents walked past and clocked me, just sitting there. The next thing I knew, they’d reported me to the police for touching their child inappropriately. It hit me like a bus. They started an active campaign against me, even though I’d done nothing wrong. They put posters of my face with my name and where I worked, saying I was a child molester. It was plastered everywhere around traffic lights and in the streets. They spread lies about me throughout the community. I had to go for an interview with child protection services. I was terrified. I knew I’d done absolutely nothing wrong, but if I were found guilty of something it would affect my entire life. I was really freaking out, it was horrendous. I had to answer a load of questions but I gave straight, honest answers because I knew that the whole childcare centre worked with careful guidelines; I’d never been alone with children and never acted inappropriately in any way whatsoever."''

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4381724/Widower-accused-PAEDOPHILE-Travelodge-staff.html Widower staying with his own daughter, 13, is accused of being a PAEDOPHILE by Travelodge staff and interviewed by police all because he booked a double room] (2017)'''
::''"A widower who lost his wife to cancer was accused of being a paedophile by Travelodge staff because he booked a double room for him and his daughter. Craig Darwell, 46, was taking Millie, 13, to visit Thorpe Park and was forced to book the double room in Chertsey, Surrey, because there were no others available. But when he checked in, suspicious staff demanded that he show them his daughter's ID. Mr Darwell, who lost his wife to leukaemia when Millie was just four, explained that he did not have ID for his daughter and instead showed staff pictures of them together when she was a baby. But even after seeing them, staff called the police and he and his daughter were forced into separate rooms and interviewed by a police officer."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080517234820/http://www.theblogfathers.com/2007/08/14/dealing-with-irrational-fear-of-pedophiles/ BlogFathers - "Dealing With (Irrational?) Fear Of Pedophiles"] (2008)'''
::''"My friend, a Latin woman, has such fear of pedophiles that she will not let any teacher help out in the bathroom at day care with her toddler girls. No change of diapers, no change of clothing, and no help with toilet visits. It must be a woman, otherwise inappropriate things could happen. Apparently, any male might be a pedophile. Every other parent is fine with the male employees helping out but she refuses to change her mind."''

===General hysteria===

*'''[https://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/touching_guidelines.htm Archdiocese Enacts New "Touching" Guidelines] (2008)'''
*:''"Tough new guidelines on "good" touching and "bad" touching are now in place for anyone who has contact with children within the Archdiocese of Cincinnati. For example, "side hugs" are allowed but "bear hugs" are considered prohibited physical contact." ''[...]'' "It is really sad, but itâ€™s necessary in the culture in which we're living," said Andriacco. ''[...]'' "The decree prohibits physical contact that is considered "inappropriate." Any form of unwanted affection ''[...]'' Inappropriate, forceful or lengthy embraces and/or "bear hugs" ''[...]'' Kisses ''[...]'' Lap-sitting ''[...]'' Touching buttocks, chest, knees, thighs or genital areas ''[...]'' Placing hands in the pockets of al child ''[...]'' Showing affection in isolated areas such as bedrooms, closets, adult-only or staff-only areas ''[...]'' Laying down, cuddling or sleeping near a child ''[...]'' Being in bed with a child ''[...]'' Wrestling ''[...]'' Tickling ''[...]'' Piggyback rides ''[...]'' Massage given by an adult to a child ''[...]'' Massage given by a child to an adult"''

*'''[http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,1408828,00.html Losing touch] (2005)'''
*:''"It's an everyday drama at primary schools up and down the country - but according to London teacher Kate Abley, a child wetting himself in the classroom is no longer a molehill, it's a mountain. "One male teacher refused to change children - he'd get other teachers to do it," says Abley. "Another teacher would call the child's mother to come in and deal with it." Those teachers who were prepared to change a child's wet pants were supposed to take another adult into the changing rooms, to keep an eye on them. "The whole thing was completely impractical." There's a growing panic among childcare professionals about touching young children in their care which, says a group of academics at Manchester Metropolitan University's Institute of Education, is causing concern and uncertainty about what's OK and what's not when it comes to innocent physical contact with youngsters. In research they are planning to publish later this year, academics Heather Piper, John Powell and Hannah Smith describe how some child carers are reluctant even to put a plaster on a child's scraped knee. Very young children have to treat their injuries themselves - with the nursery worker or teacher giving instructions on how to open the box, take out a plaster and stick it on. If a child's parent is nearby, he or she is summoned to deal with the injury. Piper describes it as a crazy situation. "Many people are behaving in completely ludicrous ways. What is cast into doubt is the process of normal nurturing - the way adults are with children." Comforting a child when they're upset, putting a plaster on them, changing their wet pants - all these everyday ways in which adults care for young children are now seen as suspect. "Children are used to being cared for by adults, being picked up and having somebody put their plasters on. If they go to places where adults don't touch them, this must be quite horrifying," says Piper - she cited the example from one playgroup in her research where there was "no touch that was caring at all"."''

*'''[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7474692.stm Adults 'scared to go near kids'] (2008)'''
*:''"Many adults are afraid to interact with children for fear of being labelled as paedophiles, a report has claimed. Think-tank Civitas said the "escalation of child protection measures" had made everyone from sports coaches to Santas seem like "potential child abusers". The Home Office said there was no evidence that vetting had deterred volunteers or eroded trust. It plans to tighten the rules further, so all parents hosting foreign exchange students will face background checks. In its report, Licensed to Hug, Civitas said that child protection regulations had "succeeded in poisoning the relationship between the generations". While in the past, adults would have helped children in distress or rebuked those misbehaving, there was now "a feeling that it is best not to become involved", it said. Report author Prof Frank Furedi, of Kent University, said: "From Girl Guiders to football coaches, from Christmas-time Santas to parents helping out in schools, volunteers - once regarded as pillars of the community - have been transformed in the regulatory and public imagination into potential child abusers, barred from any contact with children until the database gives them the green light."''

*'''[https://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2008/11_12/2008_21_07_Boykin_DontBe.htm Don't 'Be Alone with Other People's Children'] (2008)'''
*:''"Few events in a person's life have the ability to completely destroy them. But an accusation of child sex abuse, true or not, can ruin careers, families and reputations. In the past two years, an estimated 270 accusations of child sex abuse have occurred in the county. Of the 92 felony child abuse cases that went to trial during that time, only two ended in not guilty verdicts -- verdicts that won't wipe the slate clean. ''[...]'' Boy Scouts of America requires adult leaders to have a background check and to go through an hourlong course that reviews policies and practices, such as adults not sleeping in the same tent as a boy and how to handle a situation when a child tells you another adult has made him feel uncomfortable. The Salvation Army requires a background check, and all coaches and volunteers are required to watch a video on working with children, said Mark Thompson, a Salisbury Salvation Army director who serves as school board vice president. Generally, many organizations and youth leaders have instituted a buddy system when it comes to working with minors. "You shouldn't be alone with other people's children," said Michelle Hughes, the Life Crisis Center executive director. "It's not like years ago when teachers could identify a kid that needed a little extra and take him home for dinner. It's not like that anymore." ''[...]'' "No adult can be alone with boys," Wright said. "It must be two." In addition to avoiding being alone with a child, individuals who work with children should be careful not to cross the boundaries of the working relationship, said Thompson. "Be sure that you understand that you are the adult and they are the children," Thompson said. He cautioned adults who work with children to be careful of how you touch them, and to watch out for signs and sharing personal information. "It's not illegal to show genuine affection for a child," Ruark said. "But if it goes beyond that ... adults need to be cognizant of that. When you get to the point where you are touching inappropriately, even unintentional, that creates concern. Just make sure you understand where the lines are concerning friendship or expressions of love for a child." Thompson also cautioned workers who interact with children to keep close tabs on their emotions. Don't get caught up in the feeling that someone needs you or someone loves you. "You always have to have it in the back of your mind that they are the child," Thompson said. "You must always keep boundaries clear in the back of your mind. No matter how much interest that child shows in you. You can't let yourself get carried away in the moment.".''

*'''[http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/135109/Schoolchildren-hit-with-hugging-ban Schoolchildren hit with hugging ban] (2009)'''
*:''"An Australian school has banned hugging and other displays of affection between pre-teen boys and girls in order to set a good example for younger students. Largs Bay Primary School in the southern city of Adelaide said the policy is aimed at grade six and seven students, aged 11 to 12."''

==Confinement/detainment of children and consequences==
[[File:Meitiv.png|thumb|In 2014/15, these children and their parents were [[Wikipedia:Meitiv incidents|repeatedly stalked and harassed]] by government agents for practising [[Wikipedia:Free range parenting|free-range parenting]]. This was juxtaposed against [[Wikipedia:Helicopter parent|"helicopter parenting"]] throughout the 10s, in a series of controversies]]

[[Wikipedia:Lenore Skenazy|Lenore Skenazy]] is one of the better known activists against regressive parenting and restrictive treatment of small children by protective state authorities. She continues to shine a light on more recent examples of this type of story.

*'''[https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theatlantic.com%2Fnational%2Farchive%2F2014%2F07%2Farrested-for-letting-a-9-year-old-play-at-the-park-alone%2F374436%2F Working Mom Arrested for Letting Her 9-Year-Old Play Alone at Park] (2014)'''
*:''"In South Carolina, a 46-year-old black woman has been arrested for letting her daughter play in a nearby park while trying to earn a living. "The mother, Debra Harrell, has been booked for unlawful conduct towards a child," a local TV station reports. "The incident report goes into great detail, even saying the mother confessed to leaving her nine-year-old daughter at a park while she went to work." ''[...]'' By arresting this mom (presumably causing her to lose her job) and putting the child in foster care, the state has caused the child far more trauma than she was ever likely to suffer in the park, whatever one thinks of the decision to leave her there. Even if the state felt it had the right to declare this parenting decision impermissible, couldn't they have given this woman a simple warning before taking custody? ''[...]'' Statistically speaking, the South Carolina mother would almost certainly be putting her daughter in more danger if she strapped her into the car beside her for a hypothetical one-hour daily commute. No one would arrest her for that."''

:*'''[https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/07/this-widows-4-kids-were-taken-because-she-left-them-home-alone/374514/ This Widow's 4 Kids Were Taken After She Left Them Home Alone] (2014)'''
:*:''"My decision to allow my kids to stay home for a few hours while I went to school for several hours, a mile away, turned out to be the most catastrophically life-altering decision I've ever made. A neighbor noticed me walking to school without the kids and called the police. When I arrived home several hours later, I found a note on the door, but no kids inside. Despite having been told my whereabouts, neither the police nor the CPS workers who removed my kids from our home made any effort to find me, instead regarding the situation as an emergency, procedurally."''

*'''[https://www.salon.com/2014/06/03/the_day_i_left_my_son_in_the_car/ The day I left my son in the car] (2014)'''
*:''"I cracked the windows and child-locked the doors and double-clicked my keys so that the car alarm was set. And then I left him in the car for about five minutes. He didn't die. He wasn't kidnapped or assaulted or forgotten or dragged across state lines by a carjacker. When I returned to the car, he was still playing his game, smiling, or more likely smirking at having gotten what he wanted from his spineless mama. I tossed the headphones onto the passenger seat and put the keys in the ignition. ''[...]'' And so, it came as more than a shock to me when, on the way home from the airport, I listened to a voice mail from an officer at my family's local police department explaining that a bystander had noticed me leaving my son in the car, had recorded the incident using a phone's camera, and had then contacted the police. By the time the police arrived, I had already left the scene, and by the time they looked up the license plate number of the minivan and traced it to my parents, I was flying home. ''[...]'' My lawyer told me he'd had a productive conversation with the officer involved, that he'd explained I was a loving and responsible mother who'd had a "lapse in judgment," and that it seemed quite possible charges would not be pressed. For a while, it looked like he was right. But nine months later, a few minutes after dropping my kids off at school, I was walking to a coffee shop when my cellphone rang. Another officer asked if I was Kim Brooks and if I was aware there was a warrant out for my arrest."''

*'''[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/13/parents-investigated-letting-children-walk-alone/25700823/ Parents in trouble again for letting kids walk alone] (2015)'''
*:''"Maryland parents accused of child neglect for letting their kids roam around their neighborhood had to retrieve them from the county's Children's Protective Services after police removed the youngsters from a park. At about 4:55 p.m. ET Sunday, Montgomery County police received a call to check on the welfare of Danielle and Sasha Meitiv's children — Rafi, 10, and Dvora, 6 — at a park here. Officers found the children unattended and brought them to the agency as part of protocol, they said. ''[...]'' Officers picked up the children about two blocks from home, Rafi said, telling them they would drop them off at home. Instead, the two sat in a patrol car for 2½ hours then were taken about 10 miles away to Children's Protective Services offices in Rockville, Md. The Meitivs said they had taken the children to the park at around 4 p.m. and told them to be home by 6 p.m. When the children hadn't returned by 6:30, the Meitivs started looking frantically for them. Social workers did not contact them until after 8 p.m., the couple said. Their children were released to them at 10:30 p.m. Danielle and Alexander "Sasha" Meitiv say they are not endangering their children by letting them walk around without supervision. "I can't believe we're going through this again," Danielle Meitiv said. "They've been missing since 6 o'clock. Somebody called 911, the police called CPS, they decided to bring the kids here and they didn't call us." To take the children home, the Meitivs had to sign a safety plan that prohibits them from leaving their children unattended, they said."''

*'''[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lenore-skenazy/more-from-americas-worst_b_96175.html More From America's Worst Mom: 9-Year-Old On The Subway, Continued] (2008)'''
*:''"Last week I wrote a column for my newspaper, The New York Sun, titled, "Why I Let My 9-Year-Old Ride The Subway." It basically said that I let him do this because he wanted to take a trip solo, he knew how to read the map, and I had every confidence that he could find his way home. Two days later, said son and I found ourselves on the Today Show, MSNBC and FoxNews ''[...]'' My vision of the world, especially childrearing, turns out to be starkly at odds with the mainstream one, which believes that the world (especially New York) is chock-a-block with extras from "Saw III." ''[...]'' Okay, so it happened several time zones away and the station has been flogging this same awful story for three months. Does it occur to most viewers that a crime like this must be pretty rare, if the station has to talk about one as far away as, say, Portugal? Or Aruba? No! ''[...]'' I met a guy at a party last week who makes his daughter phone home after walking one block to her friend's house. And he's in a suburb. The leafy kind! ''[...]'' The fact that a child is literally forty times more likely to die in a car accident than at a stranger's hands makes no difference. Driving is seen as safe. Freedom - once a right of childhood -- is seen as suicidal."''

==Criminalization, medicalization and registration of children/youth==
[[File:Doctor2.jpg|thumb|The pipeline to a place on the [[sex offender registry]]]]
:''Unaffiliated site: [http://www.ethicaltreatment.org/ ETAY], SOL Research [https://www.solresearch.org/report/Criminalizing_Childs_Play (summary)], [https://www.solresearch.org/report/Cases_of_Persecuted_Juvenile_Sexual_Activity (list of cases)] and see also [[ageism]]''.

Society both [[infantilization|infantilizes]] and criminalizes minors, making them easy prey for the justice system. Children as young as 9 have been registered as a sexual offender (the practice is common from 12)<ref>[https://narsol.org/2018/06/how-many-kids-are-on-the-sex-offender-registry/ NARSOL - Kids on the SOR: How many?]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20100217013543/michiganmessenger.com/34538/juveniles-well-represented-on-mich-sex-offender-registry Juveniles crowd Mich. sex offender registry - Michigan Messenger]</ref> and added to state databases from as early as the age of 6.<ref>[https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2021/5/27/first-grader-sexual-assault-accusation/ First grader sexual assault accusation]</ref> An [[Ageism|article]] has been established to put forth the argument against criminalizing youth, using examples to support its case.

*'''[https://reason.com/2023/04/03/poncha-springs-schoolhouse-daycare-kids-preschool-trial/ A 5-Year-Old Pulled Down a 3-Year-Old's Pants. The Preschool Workers Are on Trial] (2023)'''
::''"Two Colorado child care workers will go on trial this June for presiding over a day care center where a 5-year-old pulled down a 3-year-old's pants. Amy Lovato and Roberta Rodriguez of The Schoolhouse day care center in Poncha Springs face criminal charges for not reporting this incident to the authorities quickly enough, and for putting the children in danger. "Let this fact not be obscured: We are here because one preschooler pulled down another preschooler's pants," Jason Flores-Williams, Lovato's attorney, told 11th Judicial District Judge Brian Green on Thursday, asking him to dismiss the charges."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20120712022851/http://www.examiner.com/article/wisconsin-da-says-6-year-old-is-a-sex-offender-for-playing-doctor Wisconsin DA says 6 year old is a sex offender for "playing doctor."] (2011)'''
::''"Parents of a five-year-old girl in Grant County, Wisconsin are pressing charges for first-degree sexual assault against a then six-year-old (now seven-year-old) boy. The accusation? Playing doctor with their daughter. Although too young to be prosecuted, the boy could be listed on the permanent sex offender registry when he turns 18. ''[...]'' There's also a clear conflic of interests and political grandstanding. The alleged "victim" is the daughter of a "well known politician." Her brother -- the politician's son -- was also playing "doctor." He's not being charged. The social worker who brought the case forward? The girl's aunt. Something is very, very rotten in the state of Denmark. The boy's family is under a gag order. In other words, the public is only being allowed to hear the "well known politician's" side of the story. Refer back to the paragraph on the brutality of the court of public opinion if you don't understand why this is a very big deal."''

:*'''[https://www.courthousenews.com/charging-kid-who-played-doctor-wasnt-malicious/ Charging Kid Who Played Doctor Wasn’t Malicious] (2013)'''
:::''"It was "poor judgment," but not unconstitutional, to charge a 6-year-old with sexual assault after he played doctor with other children, the 7th Circuit ruled. D.B., as he is named in the court record, had allegedly been interested in playing doctor that September 2010 because the 6-year-old had just concluded extensive medical testing for digestive problems, which included rectal examinations and enemas. While playing with 5-year-old C.C. and her twin brother W.C. in his Lancaster, Wis., backyard, D.B. was interrupted by the twins' mother. She reported D.B. to the Grant County Department of Social Services, saying she saw D.B. put his finger in her daughter's anus. D.B. claimed that he touched C.C.'s bare butt. A district attorney then filed a petition in court claiming D.B. had committed first-degree sexual assault, and needed public protection."''

*'''[https://eu.azcentral.com/story/laurieroberts/2014/08/12/kindergartener-disciplined-for-sexual-misconduct/13922243/ Kindergartner is a sex offender? Really?"] (2014)'''
::''"It seems a five-year-old Surprise boy was on the playground last spring when suddenly he pulled his pants down. The kid was hauled to the office and forced to sign a form that essentially labeled him a budding sex fiend. ''[...]'' Dysart officials told The Republic that administrators were just following school policy, which says the act of pulling down one's pants is sexual misconduct. ''[...]'' "There are standards of conduct that are inappropriate on a school campus regardless of the grade level of the student," Dysart Assistant Superintendent Jim Dean told The Republic's Jackee Coe. "Exposing oneself is never going to be appropriate in any school situation." ''[...]'' According to the little boy's mother, her son was on the playground at Ashton Ranch Elementary School on April 15 when another kid told him to pull down his pants or else it would be done for him. So the boy complied. ''[...]'' It took the mother hiring an attorney to get the sexual-misconduct referral out of the boys' school file."''

*'''[https://www.winchesterstar.com/winchester_star/police-girl-facing-child-pornography-charges/article_f1af731a-9777-571e-b8c5-13fb27ebb4ca.html Police: Girl facing child pornography charges] (2022)'''
::''"The girl was arrested by the Frederick County Sheriff's Office on April 7 and charged with possession of child pornography, production of child pornography and distribution of child pornography. Lt. Warren W. Gosnell, Sheriff's Office spokesman, said in an email that an anonymous tip led to the investigation, which involves images of a boy and girl under 16 found on a phone. He said the investigation is school-related but wouldn't say which school. ''[...]'' The maximum juvenile penalty for any crime would be incarceration in a juvenile prison run by the Virginia Department of Juvenile Justice until the offender turns 21. Under adult penalties, a juvenile between 15 and 18 convicted of child pornography production and distribution for a first offense faces between one and 20 years although a judge could sentence below the minimum. If the offender is seven or more years older than the victim, there is a three-year mandatory minimum and a 30-year maximum. Spicer noted child pornography laws were written before cellphones became ubiquitous and "sexting," in which a person sends nude or sexually explicit images by phone, became common. ''[...]'' Spicer said the law is outdated due to changing technology. "There is a need for more updated laws to reflect the reality of what technology permits juveniles to do," he said. "The statute hasn't kept up with the technology.""''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20150718140743/http://bostonreview.net/blog/youth-sex-offender-registry-hrw When Kids Are Sex Offenders] (ft. ''Human Rights Watch'' report, 2013)'''
::''"Maya R., now age 28 and a resident of Michigan, was arrested at the age of 10 for sexual experimentation. ‘Me and my step brothers, who were ages 8 and 5, “flashed” each other and play-acted sex while fully-clothed.’ A year later, Maya pled guilty to the charges of criminal sexual conduct in the first and second degree, offenses that required her to register as a sex offender for 25 years. ''[...]'' In 2006, a 13-year old girl from Ogden, Utah was arrested for rape for having consensual sex with her 12-year-old boyfriend. Her 12-year-old boyfriend was found guilty of violating the same law for engaging in sexual activity with her, as she was also a child under the age of 14 at the time. ''[...]'' Youth sex offenders on the registry experience severe psychological harm. They are stigmatized, isolated, often depressed. Many consider suicide, and some succeed. They and their families have experienced harassment and physical violence. They are sometimes shot at, beaten, even murdered; many are repeatedly threatened with violence. Some young people have to post signs stating ‘sex offender lives here’ in the windows of their homes; others have to carry drivers’ licenses with ‘sex offender’ printed on them in bright orange capital letters. Youth sex offenders on the registry are sometimes denied access to education because residency restriction laws prevent them from being in or near a school. Youth sex offender registrants despair of ever finding employment, even while they are burdened with mandatory fees that can reach into the hundreds of dollars on an annual basis."''

*'''[https://www.aclu.org/blog/juvenile-justice/minnesota-prosecutor-charges-sexting-teenage-girl-child-pornography Minnesota Prosecutor Charges Sexting Teenage Girl With Child Pornography] (2018)'''
::''"A 14-year-old Minnesota girl is fighting criminal charges that have the potential to destroy her future, including her ability to obtain housing, to enroll in college programs, and even to pursue some career paths. Her case does not involve harm to others. It does not involve damage to property. And it does not have anything to do with illegal substances. Rather her young life could be ruined all because she sent an explicit Snapchat of herself to a boy she liked. In the case, Jane Doe used the phone-based application Snapchat to send a revealing selfie to a boy at her school in Southern Minnesota. He went on to make a copy and distribute it to other students without Jane’s permission."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20090320234911/http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/article/20090313/NEWS01/903130301 Eleven-year-old girl charged with rape] (2009)'''
::''"Local law enforcement deals with sex offenders almost daily, but in the past couple of months, Zanesville police have dealt with one of the youngest cases officers can remember - an 11-year-old girl charged with three counts of rape. Detective Randy Ritchason said the girl had some type of sexual contact with three other children - two boys and a girl -all under the age of 10. She was charged in Muskingum County Juvenile Court."''

*'''[https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/internetlife/2004-03-29-child-self-porn_x.htm Teen girl charged with posting nude photos on Internet] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20121014185601/https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/internetlife/2004-03-29-child-self-porn_x.htm Archive]) (2004)'''
::''A 15-year-old girl has been arrested for taking nude photographs of her self and posting them on the Internet, police said. The girl, whose identity was withheld, was accused of sending out photographs of herself in various states of undress and performing a variety of sexual acts. She sent them to people she met in chat rooms on the Internet, police said. Police seized her computer and found dozens of photographs stored on the hard drive. Authorities did not say how police learned about the girl. She has been charged with sexual abuse of children, possession of child pornography and dissemination of child pornography."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081012163102/https://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7219 15-Year-Old Ohio Girl Arrested For Distributing Nude Photos of Herself, May Have to Register as a Sex Offender] (2008)'''
*:''"A 15-year-old girl stands accused of distributing nude photos of herself to other minors, and one state legislator is questioning whether or not she should be labeled a sex offender. The girl, a student at Licking Valley High School, was arrested Friday after school officials discovered the materials and brought in a police investigation. The girl, whose name has not been released, now faces two charges: illegal use of a minor in nudity-oriented material, a second degree felony; and possession of criminal tools, a fifth degree felony. For an adult convicted of child pornography it requires a Tier II sexual offender classification. However Jennifer Brindisi, a spokeswoman for the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Identification and Investigation, said the judge has flexibility with a juvenile of this defendant's age. The junvenille section of Senate Bill 10 includes a part which states that if the child is a first-time offender and age 14 or 15 that the judge can decide not to make him or her register. The incident comes immediately following a visit from Licking County Prosecutor Ken Oswalt, who had been visiting area high schools and educating teens on the consequences of such an action. Oswalt talked about the dangers of this behavior, both in terms of personal embarrassment as well as contribution to child pornography on the internet."''

*'''[https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/kz7zxa/the-autistic-children-who-are-labeled-as-sex-offenders The Autistic Children Who Are Labeled As Sex Offenders] (2017)'''
::''""Most times with children there is no sexual [motivation]," Pittman explains, but "the moment the touching looks sexual, though, society labels them pedophiles." Rogers added that "it doesn't matter if a person is on the spectrum. They're going to be treated like any sex offender." When an autistic child pulls his pants down in a grocery store, Pittman explains, "We look at [the situation] from the lens [of] a 50 year old man [flashing people]." Minors are not listed publicly on the sex offender registry, but they're forbidden from attending school because that's where children congregate. Once they turn 18, most states require them to register on the public sex offender list with an identifying photo. Children like Anthony would be identified as child pornography distributors for sending nude selfies, and required to disclose their status as a registered sex offender to any employers in some states. "There's a lot of homelessness and depression ''[because people can't get jobs]''," Pittman explains. "We have a whole new generation of victims on this law.""''

*'''[https://www.ipce.info/newsletters/e_26/absurdities.htm 8-year-old boy charged with sexual assault] (2007)'''
::''"Authorities say that an 8-year-old boy who was charged with sexually abusing a 6-year-old boy told police he got the idea after watching an R-rated movie. ''[...]'' The Buffalo News reports that the 8-year-old, who was released to his mother, faces charges of criminal sexual act and aggravated sexual abuse, both felonies. He also faces charges of misdemeanor forcible touching and sexual misconduct."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20160612101324/https://www.denverpost.com/2006/12/05/girl-13-charged-as-sex-offender-and-victim/ Girl, 13, charged as sex offender and victim] (2006)'''
::''"Utah Supreme Court justices acknowledged Tuesday that they were struggling to wrap their minds around the concept that a 13-year-old girl could be both an offender and a victim for the same act – in this case, having consensual sex with her 12-year-old boyfriend. The Ogden, Utah, girl was put in this odd position because she was found guilty of violating a state law that prohibits sex with someone under age 14. She also was the victim in the case against her boyfriend, who was found guilty of the same violation by engaging in sexual activity with her. “The only thing that comes close to this is dueling,” said Associate Chief Justice Michael Wilkins, noting that two people who take 20 paces and then shoot could each be considered both victim and offender."''

[[Anal wink|Anal probing]] (of suspected victims), [[Penile Plethysmography|penile plethysmography]] and aversion therapy are regularly used on minors who have been involved in relationships - even with age peers. Consent laws can also criminalize the boyfriends of teenage girls who get pregnant, preventing the girls having access to healthcare, as in Peru.<ref>[https://www.ctvnews.ca/peru-votes-to-lower-age-of-consent-to-14-1.246145 Peru votes to lower AoC]</ref>

*'''[https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2014/07/police-want-to-photograph-sexting-teens-penis.html Police Want to Force a 17-Year-Old Accused of Sexting His Girlfriend to Take More Explicit Photos As Evidence] (2014)'''
::''"Prosecutors and police in Manassas City, Virginia, have a warrant to photograph a 17-year-old’s penis in hopes of convicting him as a sex offender for sending a dirty video to his 15-year-old girlfriend. The boy’s lawyer tells the Washington Post that after he refused to plead guilty, prosecutors said they would need to “just take him down to the hospital, give him a shot, and then take the pictures that we need.” Of his erect genitalia. ''[...]'' As if it weren’t bad enough already, NBC Washington reports that police already photographed the boy’s penis when they arrested him ''[...]'' “He said they took him to a room and took pictures of his genitalia,” Stacy Bigley said. “I asked if they’re allowed to do that, and [the 17-year-old] said, ‘I tried to refuse,’” which he did, he didn’t want to do it. They told him if he did not they would do it by force.” ''[...]'' The teenager’s lawyer said prosecutors have said they will “use special software to compare pictures of this penis to this penis.”"''
::[Editor: The lead detective in this case eventually [[Debate Guide: Self-loathing hatred|shot himself in the head]] following a dramatic manhunt in which he was accused of "child" sex crimes himself]

==[[Wikipedia:Thoughtcrime|Thought crime]] and [[Wikipedia:Newspeak|Newspeak]]==

[[File:gamergurl.jpg|thumb|Actual American Police Decoy (credit - NYT Magazine)]]
The manipulation of [[Debate Guide: Abuse of language|language]] and [[Debate Guide: Misdefinitions and Rhetorical Manipulation|abuse of rhetoric]] are common features of the war on "sexual offending". In some examples, this is particularly salient.

*'''[https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/redmond-detectives-arrest-man-undercover-online-child-rape-operation/BP5LB4FCCZHJNORM3KFUGHQPSE/ Redmond detectives arrest man in undercover online child rape operation] (2023)'''
*:''"Detectives posed as a 12-year-old girl on a location-based social networking and dating application, according to the Redmond Police Department. The conversation began in early March and the man was told several times that he was talking to a 12-year-old girl. However, he kept engaging in sexually motivated conversations, believing she was a minor."'' [So, not only is the "raped" girl fake, she was never "raped", and they posed her on '''[[Wikipedia:Tinder (app)|Tinder]]''', which is clearly implausible and fantastical to anybody bar the most witless of baby-boomers]

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11131079/Woke-Virginia-school-district-kept-pedophile-counselor-year-notified-arrest.html Notoriously woke Virginia school district kept pedophile school counselor on staff a year AFTER bosses were told he'd been arrested for soliciting child prostitute] (2022)'''
*:''"Darren Lamar Thornton, 50, remained employed by Glasgow Middle School in Lincolnia, Virginia, even after he'd been convicted of a sex crime and a year after they'd been notified of his arrest, according to WUSA9. He'd previously served as a counselor and boys' varsity basketball coach in a different county from 2006 to 2020. Thornton was arrested for offering a minor money for sex in November of 2020 in Chesterfield County."'' [Editor: Only at the end of the article, and after multiple graphics, do we get to learn about the true nature of Thornton's "crime", bolded below] '''''"He was trapped in a sting via an online chat with an undercover officer who said she was 17, and Thornton agreed to meet."''''' [Editor: The New York Times explains how this particular swindle works.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20201003235625/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/26/magazine/sex-offender-operation-net-nanny.html?smid=tw-share NYT Mag: Explains LEO Stings]</ref> Just under a month earlier, the very same British paper as in the example above described a female prison inmate as a "pedophile" for "raping two boys aged 14 and 17 in 2018"<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11042579/Female-pedophile-jailed-raping-two-underage-boys-posts-TIKTOK-videos-asking-pen-pals.html Female pedophile jailed for raping two underage boys she met online posts TIKTOK videos asking for pen pals to contact her in prison - and officials say there's NOTHING they can do about it]</ref>''

*'''[https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/13380554.12-year-old-girl-raped-in-woods-after-being-manipulated-and-groomed-by-older-man-she-met-online/ 12-year-old girl raped in woods after being manipulated and groomed by older man she met online] (2015)'''
*:''"The girl, who comes from Worthing, had been in contact with a young man who said he was 18, in early June, online through two phone apps, Whisper and Kik, and arranged to meet him. They first met at about 3pm on Friday June 5, when he picked her up from outside Goring railway station in a silver or grey Fiat Punto. They drove to the car park at the end of Angmering High Street, opposite Manor Nurseries where they parked and kissed for a while. He then dropped her off back in Worthing. They then met again two days later at about midday on Sunday June 7 outside Tesco Express in Rectory Road, Worthing and drove to the same place in Angmering. From there they walked south down a track parallel to the A280 and alongside Manor Nurseries to a wooded area, where they had sexual intercourse, stopping when they saw some dog walkers nearby. The incidents were not reported to the police until June 25. ''[...]'' "This case is another example of what can result from unwary and unsupervised use of the web by young people who need to be really careful in their contacts with people they do not know.""''

*'''[https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/paedophile-tried-gag-tie-up-3473450 Paedophile tried to gag and tie up man] (2008)'''
*:''"A PAEDOPHILE tried to gag and tie up a man while he slept in his flat, a court heard. Vincent Burns, 69, invited his 26-year-old victim back to his home after drinking together in a city centre pub."'' [Editor: At no other place in this article is a justification given for labeling this man a pedophile]''

===Porn cartoons and sex dolls criminalized===

*'''[https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/man-charged-importing-child-sex-29368394 Man charged with importing child sex doll and possession of 71 child porn <nowiki>[lolicon manga</nowiki>NW<nowiki>]</nowiki> images] (2023)'''
*:''"Mr Wright stands accused of importing a child sex doll from Japan - the first known charge of its kind in this country. He is accused of knowingly having child pornography in the form of a “torso” of a child with what is described as a “penetrable anus and vagina.” The doll was discovered contained in a box with a “Japanese-style” drawing of a “naked” child, posed with its legs spread open, according to the charge. He also stands accused of having another doll of a child, which is described as being “17 years old” on the box it was contained within. He’s also charged with possession of another doll, which was a “model of a young child’s mouth,” again in a box which contained a drawing of a “young female child." The offences are contrary to Section Six of the Child Trafficking and Pornography Act 1998. The possession offences are alleged to have occurred at the accused’s home address on July 24, 2017. Apart from those charges Mr Wright stands accused of attempting to commit an offence “by purchasing and attempting to import a child sex doll,” which is contrary to common law."''

*'''[https://www.hucknalldispatch.co.uk/news/crime/hucknall-teen-downloaded-anime-cartoon-child-porn-court-case-3544509 Hucknall teenager who downloaded dozens of 'anime' cartoon child porn images given suspended prison sentence] (2022)'''
*:''"Police visited Ben Burton's home address and seized his mobile phone on November 28, 2020, said prosecutor Anthony Chung. It contained 25 Category A images, 15 Category B images, and 48 Category C images of female characters, that were deemed to be aged between five and 14. When he was interviewed, Burton said he received the images via Facebook messenger. ''[...]'' Recorder Michael Auty said: "What troubles me is his disinclination to accept that he had any sexual interest in the imagery. Frankly, I don't believe him." He told Burton: "There is understandable public concern about any offences concerning the possession of indecent images of children. "This case is unusual as the pictures weren't of real children. "Whether these children were real or represented in anime, or any other artistic form, the protection of children is regarded as of paramount importance in a civilised society.”"''

*'''[https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/man-who-avoided-jail-after-child-porn-conviction-says-he-accidentally-clicked-link/41581409.html Man who avoided jail after child porn conviction says he 'accidentally' clicked link] (2022)'''
*:''"A 25-year-old man who claims he unknowingly downloaded animated child pornography has told how one click on a website resulted in his arrest and conviction in court. Nabil Ibrahim of Lehenaghmore, Togher, Co. Cork, appeared before in court last week where pleaded guilty to having child pornography at his home on February 3, 2019. ''[...]'' "It was just by accident," he said. "I was on a social media site. It was Tumblr and I clicked on it." Asked why he clicked on the link or folder, Ibrahim said: "I don't know. I wasn't sure what it was. It just said 'illegal' or something like that. All this happened four years ago - it's been going on quite a while." ''[...]'' Over the past decade, Gardaí have seized increasing amounts of virtual or simulated child pornography in the form of cartoons, text and computer graphic images. ''[...]'' Realistic "child sex dolls" have also been seized by authorities in recent years. Unlike several other western countries - including the US and Switzerland - Ireland categorises all types of child sex abuse material, simulated or real, as child pornography. Offenders face up to five years for possession and 14 years for producing or distributing such material."''

*'''[https://www.gawker.com/man-gets-three-months-in-jail-for-possession-of-cartoon-477388305 Man Gets Three Months in Jail for Possession of Cartoon Porn] (2013)'''
*:''"Ronald Clark's lawyer called his client's three-month jail sentence for possession of cartoon pornography a case of "law gone mad." The New Zealand resident claims he downloaded the videos, which depict "clearly young" elves, pixies, trolls "and other fantasy creatures having sex," three years ago as "a bit of a laugh." ''[...]'' He also asked the court if his conviction in this case couldn't lead to someone else being charged for "possessing objectionable images of stick figures." But at least one person didn't find Clark's conviction an absurd overreach on the part of the justice system. Alan Bell, director of the anti-child pornography group ECPAT said he was worried the images could encourage people "to migrate from there to the real thing." "The distribution of it is damaging," he continued. "You have to ask what impact does it have even if it's not harming ''[an individual child]''." New Zealand's courts have taken issue with cartoon pornography in the past, most recently charging a Chinese student for importing DVDs containing "cartoon animations depicting rape, abuse, and bestiality involving eels." Those charges were eventually dropped."''

*'''[http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2008/09/26/child-porn-in-cartoon-style-man-convicted-84229-21906841/ Child porn in cartoon style - man convicted] (2008)'''
*:''"A MAN who downloaded “Tomb Raider”-style pictures of computer-generated child pornography has been convicted by a Teesside jury. Robul Hoque had sophisticated realistic images of children on his hard drive seized by police in October 2006. The unusual case involving computer graphics is thought to be the first of its type and an important test case. Hoque, 32, told the Gazette: “I haven’t set out to break the law in any way, shape or form. “If I’d had any sort of inkling these were illegal, I would have told the police about them myself. I don’t go looking for child porn. I’m not attracted to kids. I’m not interested in kids.” ''[...]'' Jurors were told they should convict if they concluded that a picture looked like a photo. “It is about child pornography,” prosecutor David Brooke told the court ''[...]'' “Though no actual child has been abused, it helps to feed the demand.”"''

:*'''[https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/manga-anime-fans-warned-after-british-man-convicted-possessing-cartoon-child-porn-1471040 Manga and Anime Fans Warned After British Man Convicted of Possessing Cartoon 'Child Porn'] (2014)'''
:*:''"A man from Middlesbrough is believed to have become the first person in British legal history to be convicted over possession of prohibited cartoon images of children. Robul Hoque, 39, made legal history after he was convicted of possessing a collection of inappropriate Japanese Manga or Anime-style images of children. The cartoons were classed as prohibited as they contained images of young girls, some wearing school uniforms, exposing themselves or taking part in sexual activity, reported the Evening Gazette. The court heard how Hoque became a "test case" after nearly 300 cartoon stills and moving images were found on his hard drive after police seized his computer in June 2012. ''[...]'' Hoque's defence barrister Richard Bennett said his conviction should "serve as a warning to every Manga and Anime fan" to be careful as these images are were freely available on legitimate sites. He added: "It seems there are many thousands of people in this country, if they are less then careful, who may find themselves in that position, too.""''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081209005431/https://www.stuff.co.nz/4786351a1860.html Simpsons cartoon rip-off is child porn - judge] (2008)'''
*:''"A Supreme Court judge in Australia has ruled that an internet cartoon in which look-a-like child characters from The Simpsons engage in sexual acts is child pornography." ''[...]'' But Justice Adams agreed with the magistrate, finding that while The Simpsons characters had hands with four fingers and their faces were "markedly and deliberately different to those of any possible human being", the mere fact that they were not realistic representations of human beings did not mean that they could not be considered people. Justice Adams said the purpose of the legislation was to stop sexual exploitation and child abuse where images are depicted of "real" children. However it was also to deter the production of other material, including cartoons, that could "fuel demand for material that does involve the abuse of children""''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20090314115104/http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/man-fined-for-downloading-simpsons-cartoon-porn/1458973.aspx Man fined for downloading Simpsons cartoon porn] (2009)'''
*:''"A MAN pleaded guilty yesterday to possessing child pornography after he downloaded images of characters from The Simpsons and Pokemon naked and performing sex acts on each other. Glenn Phillip McGuire, 28, had originally pleaded not guilty after police found six such images of the cartoon characters on his computer. The images had been doctored or drawn by unknown people and were downloaded while McGuire was surfing the Limewire website. The Supreme Court ruled last December that child pornography can include sexually explicit images of cartoon characters. McGuire changed his plea in Newcastle Local Court yesterday to guilty and was convicted, fined $1000 and put on a 12-month good behaviour bond. The Supreme Court ruling came after a man was convicted in Parramatta Local Court in February last year of possessing pornographic images of child cartoon characters."''

===Motive-dependent crimes===

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20081210065049/https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2008/12/06/judge_refuses_to_reduce_48-year_prison_sentence/ Judge refuses to reduce 48-year prison sentence] (2008)'''
*:''"URBANA – A Champaign County judge refused Friday to reduce the 48-year prison sentence of a former Urbana teacher convicted of child molestation. ''[...]'' Clem sentenced White in early April on eight counts of aggravated criminal sexual abuse to which White pleaded guilty in February. White admitted that he had eight blindfolded girls, about ages 7 to 9, lick sauces off a banana for his own sexual gratification ''[...]'' White's actions have already spurred several lawsuits against him and the Urbana and McLean county school districts by the parents of the girls. So far, two victims have reached settlements with Urbana District 116 of $390,000 and $300,000 in present-day cash. Another for $250,000 is expected to be approved by a judge later this month. The way the settlements are structured, the girls may end up receiving more than $1 million each over the course of their lives.""''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080620145228/http://www.dailybulletin.com/news/ci_6319275 Judge calls Olsen a 'high-risk' pedophile in the early stages] (2007)'''
*:''"A judge sentenced former substitute teacher Eric Norman Olsen to five years in prison on Friday, calling him the first true pedophile she has seen in her years on the bench. ''[...]'' Uhler said she was inclined to give Olsen probation at first, but after reviewing his diagnostic report she had no choice but to send him to prison. "The defendant was a pedophile in the early stages," she said. "He is at high risk to re-offend." ''[...]'' He was arrested last July after allegations arose that he inappropriately touched young girls. Most of the contact involved children sitting on his lap. He told police the contact sexually aroused him. ''[...]'' She said a five-year sentence is "extremely lenient.""''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20100516181924/http://www.thisissouthdevon.co.uk/news/Court-accused-Victorian-standards-trial/article-2150034-detail/article.html Court accused of 'Victorian standards' in trial] (2010)'''
*:''"A SOUTH Devon lawyer hit out at a court's Victorian standards yesterday after his client was convicted of possessing indecent photographs of girls wearing swimwear and clothes. Solicitor Nigel Butt spoke out after a Teignmouth man was found guilty after a trial of possessing indecent images of young women. Mr Butt was not allowed to show the magistrates best selling magazines like Vanity Fair and Rolling Stone which had published topless and explicitly sexual photographs of under-age celebrities. After the verdict, Totnes-based lawyer Mr Butt said: "This decision will potentially reverberate throughout the country and will have a huge impact on magazines, film producers and directors, photographers and newspaper editors because the law has to be applied equally and evenly to everything. "You can see more flesh exposed on a Friday or Saturday night in town or on a beach than was on my client's computer. "This court has applied Victorian standards in 2010 and their findings are perverse.""''

==Censorship==

:''See [[Censorship]] and [[Child Pornography]] for more analysis of this topic.''

[[File:Moms.jpg|thumb|"Moms for Liberty" - a group that campaigned ''for'' mandating a surveillance state in school libraries]]
Age-based restrictions against "inappropriate" content have always exhibited an erotophobic bias, but they are increasingly being used to crack down on politically inconvenient narratives and liberal sex education. Moderate lawmakers failed to heed the warnings and sometimes even ''encouraged'' hysteria in the early 21st Century, when [[Child Pornography|Youth Erotica]] began to be used as an excuse for infringements upon civil liberties and digital privacy. As our article on that subject reveals, this has often led to bizarre and discriminatory regulations, such as Australia's so-called "small breast ban".

*'''[https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/17/book-ban-restriction-access-lgbtq/ Students lose access to books amid ‘state-sponsored purging of ideas’] (2022)'''
*:''"In the past two years, six states have passed laws that mandate parental involvement in reviewing books, making it easier for parents to remove books or restrict the texts available at school, according to a tally kept by nonprofit EveryLibrary. Five states are considering similar legislation. ''[...]'' “This is a state-sponsored purging of ideas and identities that has no precedent in the United States of America,” said John Chrastka, EveryLibrary’s executive director. “We’re witnessing the silencing of stories and the suppressing of information [that will make] the next generation less able to function in society.” ''[...]'' Mounting book challenges, bans and clandestine removals, all of which reached historic highs during the past school year, are also eroding students’ freedom to read. Simultaneously, Republican legislators in at least nine states are pushing laws that force school library databases to block certain content. Everywhere, the books targeted are mostly written by and about people of color and LGBTQ individuals, according to analyses conducted by the American Library Association and PEN America. ''[...]'' The sharp increase in oversight and control of children’s reading at school is welcomed by some parents, conservative pundits and lawmakers who argue that unsupervised students will stumble across texts that expose them to sexual topics too early or that undermine their family’s beliefs and values. Library advocates say that existing book challenge procedures, as well as the expertise of credentialed school librarians, were already sufficient to ensure school book collections remain appropriate. The spike in regulation of school reading has some educators reconsidering the profession, amid a catastrophic national teacher shortage. ''[...]'' Under a new five-page policy, book purchases must be approved by a vaguely defined set of administrators, possibly including the superintendent, with input from “parents and community members.” The policy prohibits any materials that contain “sexual acts” (or “nudity” at the elementary and middle-school levels); requires libraries to publish inventories; makes it easier for parents to remove books; and asserts parents can, at any time, receive a list of books their children have checked out. The document concludes: “While librarians are trained in selecting materials … the ultimate determination of appropriateness for a minor lies with the parent.” ''[...]'' “I think the intent of the policy is to frighten teachers and librarians into a very high degree of self-censorship, and it will work beautifully,” she said, adding that ex-colleagues of hers are already boxing up their classroom libraries. ''[...]'' In Florida, the Flagler County district debuted a three-tiered library system this past spring. The first level grants students access to the entire library. At level two, parents can specify up to five titles their children cannot check out. At level three, children have no access to books except titles specified by their parents. ''[...]'' Another increasingly popular tactic is to require parental sign-off before librarians hand books to children. One of the districts doing so is Virginia’s Bedford County Public Schools, which has debuted a book-lending system that emails parents every time their child checks out a book. ''[...]'' Amy Snead, a mother of four and chair of the Bedford County chapter of parental rights group '''Moms for Liberty''', said her organization pushed for the books policy. She said it will prevent children from encountering sexually explicit material."''

*'''[https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2013/08/21/comment-porn-or-better-sex-education/ Comment: Porn or better sex education?] (2013)'''
*:''"There is a lot of policy and media concern about young people accessing pornography and the potential for it to cause harm, including sexual violence. ''[...]'' Whatever your views on pornography, most sensible adults would agree that pornography is not the best place to learn about relationships, sex and sexuality. ''[...]'' So should we really be concerned about pornography? It is clear from the young people visiting our services that more and more are seeing pornography. But most can tell the difference between fantasy and reality. ''[...]'' When it comes to the proposal for internet safety filters to be activated as a default, there are many people who think this is sensible, reasonable and proportionate. One person’s perfectly reasonable suggestion – say, that “adult” material should be filtered out by internet service providers – is another person’s creeping censorship. I reserve judgement at this stage. The devil is in the detail. But I am concerned. Brook is all too often accustomed to our online content running afoul of crude filtering software. One Wi-Fi provider blocked our website because it was listed under “sex education”. I am worried about those young people whose access to sex and relationships advice could be inadvertently blocked by these filters. Despite reassurance from the Prime Minister that there will be a ‘white list’ of sites to prevent this happening, we and our colleagues at online charity YouthNet are mindful that this will be tricky to get right, and of the devastating effects of getting it wrong."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20220706163847/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-s-plan-for-internetporn-filters-risks-hurting-lgbt-community-8778956.html David Cameron’s plan for internet-porn filters ‘risks hurting LGBT community’] (2013)'''
*:''"David Cameron's plan for UK households to block internet porn with default search filters will be “very damaging” for LGBT people and vulnerable adults who could be denied access to legitimate sexual health and education sites, a group of authors and journalists has warned. In an open letter to the Prime Minister, prominent figures including the Belle de Jour writer Brooke Magnanti and feminist blogger and author Zoe Margolis, warned that the Government was taking “a dangerous and misguided approach” to internet safety.''[...]'' They point out that faults with existing internet service provider filters have been reported numerous times and warn that any default filters could “unintentionally block important sites related to sexual health, LGBT issues, or sex and relationship education”. “This will be very damaging for LGBT young people, for example, or vulnerable adults who may be cut off from important support and advice, in particular those with abusive partners who are also the Internet account holder,” they add. ''[...]'' To illustrate how blunt an instrument search filters could be, a spokesman for the group cited a recent case in which a British Library search filter denied a man using its Wi-Fi network access to Hamlet, because it contained “violent content”."''

===Trojan Horse for civil-liberties/privacy infringements===

:''For a rundown of relevant news articles in relation to the UK's '''Online Safety Bill''', see [https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/24/uk-online-safety-bill-css-e2ee/?guccounter=1 TechCrunch.]''

*'''[https://fee.org/articles/the-earn-it-act-wont-protect-children-but-it-will-destroy-digital-privacy/ The EARN IT Act Won't Protect Children, But It Will Destroy Digital Privacy] (2020)'''
*:''"The first public hearing of the EARN IT Act took place weeks ago, a bill which is nominally designed to require tech companies to meet certain “best practice” requirements when it comes to the safety of children online. If they do so, and as the title of the bill indicates, they will be judged to have “earned” the right to be protected from lawsuits arising from user-generated content. ''[...]'' If the bill passes, tech companies will be confronted with a choice: weaken their encryption schemes, or face lawsuits based on the content uploaded by their users. In practice, they will have to weaken encryption, because the flood of litigation stemming from user content will make running such platforms impossibly costly. Perhaps the most troubling aspect of the bill is that, where normally data privacy baffles lawmakers, this attack on data privacy is cleverly hidden in terms of "child protection" and "best practices". In fact, some lawmakers seem to be using their naivety when it comes to the technical aspects of online privacy to deflect criticism. When the Washington Post interviewed one of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Richard Blumenthal, he claimed that he couldn’t protect users’ rights to encryption because he doesn’t understand it."''

*'''[https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/11/experts-condemn-uk-online-safety-bill-harmful-privacy-and-encryption Experts Condemn The UK Online Safety Bill As Harmful To Privacy And Encryption] (2022)'''
*:''"The British Parliament may start debating the Online Safety Bill again as soon as this week. The bill is a deeply flawed censorship proposal that would allow U.K. residents to be thrown in jail for what they say online. It would also force online service providers to use government-approved software to search for user content that is deemed to be related to terrorism or child abuse. In the process, it will undermine our right to have a private conversation, and the technologies that protect that right, like end-to-end encryption. In a letter published today, EFF has joined dozens of security researchers and human rights groups to send a clear message to incoming U.K. prime minister Rishi Sunak: the Online Safety Bill must not undermine encryption. ''[...]'' In the past few years, we’ve seen a number of proposals brought forward by governments that want to scan user-to-user communications for criminal content: the U.S. EARN IT Act, and the EU’s proposal to scan private chats. All of these proposals suffer from the incorrect belief that a backdoor or other workaround to read encrypted messages can be designed for use only in benevolent ways."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20090623070859/http://wikileaks.org/wiki/Italian_secret_internet_censorship_list%2C_287_site_subset%2C_21_Jun_2009 Italian secret internet censorship list, 287 site subset] From Wikileaks (2009)'''
*:''"This [2009, Italian] list presents 287 internet sites currently censored by Italy. This quasi-voluntary system, which was introduced under the banner of fighting "child pornography" relies on a secret, unaccountable list of site names. Because of this lack of transparency, and the power of the censorship system, the blacklist is of intense interest. (...) The majority of sites on the Italian list seem to be unrelated to child pornography. While some do appear to relate to the images of teenagers, the vast majority of sites are related to what appears to be legal young-adult pornography. Some sites are unrelated to any type of pornography. These include businesses or institutes outside of Italy, and discussion forums, used by tens of thousands for all purposes. While it is possible these sites had an unauthorized user briefly upload an underage image or link to such an image, the continued presence of the sites on this list likely reflects the lack of any censorship notification or appeal mechanism."''
::Two random, but nevertheless high profile (at the time) [[minor-attracted community]] sites were erroneously added to this list - '''FPC.li''' and [[BoyWiki]].

*'''[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/18/finnish_policy_censor_activist/ Dan Goodin: ''Finland censors anti-censorship site'', in The Register] (2008)'''
*:''"Finnish police are blocking more than 1,000 legal websites, including one belonging to a well-known internet activist, under a secretive system designed to prevent access to foreign sites that contain child pornography, according to a group that advocates for individual rights online. ''[...]'' Of the 700 or sites that have been tested, only two are known to contain inappropriate images of children, said Tapani Tarvainen chairman of the Electronic Frontier Finland (EFFI). The remainder tend to be sites with adult-oriented themes, such as those offering legal porn, and forums for gay sex. In some cases, the sites - which include an online doll store, a Thai Windows advice forum and a computer repair service - have no visible link to porn or sex at all."''

*'''[https://web.archive.org/web/20080123074821/https://blog.brokep.com/2008/01/21/punching-bags/ Punching bags] (2008)'''
*:''"The police posted information that they would put TPB on the Swedish childporn filter. They never contacted us about the alleged child porn (which nobody found when looking for such content) and after heavy media critique the police caved in and said that TPB did not - any longer - have child porn on the site. Which of course, there was none to start with. Charges was filed about slander and for abusing the childporn filter for political means to JO but he decided that the police probably did their job and ‘had no reason not to trust the police officers testimony’. The police put the TPB associated website Kopimi.com in the child porn filter prior to this. Kopimi.com is of course not child porn either. After over 6 months in the filter a prosecutor stated that kopimi.com of course did not have any child porn (nor had ever had) and demanded that the filter was to be altered. The Swedish police had of course copied it’s filter to Norway and Denmark, aka rendering the site still filtered there after the Swedish filter was altered. It took another 3 months to get that sorted out, all the work we had to do. And no, we didn’t get an apology."''

*'''[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/01/14/demon_muzzles_wayback_machine/ Brit porn filter censors 13 years of net history] (2009)'''
*:''"Four weeks after birthing a nationwide Wikipedia edit ban, Britain's child porn blacklist has led at least one ISP to muzzle the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine - an 85 billion page web history dating back to 1996. According to multiple customers of Demon Internet - now owned by Brit telecom Thus - the London-based ISP is blocking access to all sites stored in the archive. When they query the Wayback Machine, hoping to retrieve archived pages, customers are met with generic "not found" error pages. But judging from their urls, these pages are generated by a web filter based on the blacklist compiled by the Internet Watch Foundation, a government-backed organization charged with policing online pornography."''
::[Editor: This particular example of technical illiteracy spanned from the [[Virgin Killer controversies]]]

==Draconian punishments==

It is easy to locate examples of excessive sentences for regular "molestation", such as Brittany Zamora's 20 years in 2019 for a consensual relationship with a 13 year old male student.<ref>[https://people.com/crime/imprisoned-ariz-teacher-who-sexually-abused-boy-13-is-now-tutoring-inmates-in-prison/ Imprisoned Ariz. Teacher Who Sexually Abused Boy, 13, Is Now Tutoring Inmates in Prison]</ref> Below, we list examples ranging from bizarre "crimes" that never were, to cruel and unusual punishments.

*'''[https://www.ndtv.com/offbeat/australian-man-with-diaper-fetish-gets-banned-from-seeing-his-children-report-2959584 Australian Man With Diaper Fetish Gets Banned From Seeing His Children: Report] (2022)'''
*:''"His ex-wife took legal action against him claiming that his behaviour, which she was previously aware of, had escalated over time. According to the report, the former partner said that the man, who she met in the mid-2000s, even began “wearing the diapers around the home”. The couple then split and agreed to share parenting duties provided the man kept his lifestyle away from his children. But back in 2019, the court had heard that the Aussie father once came to pick the kids up and had a nappy “partially exposed”. It was then, the ex-wife said, that she decided to take legal action against him. In 2021, the court ruled that the man was not allowed to see his children. The father then appealed the decision, saying that he posed no risk to his kids, but his claim was rejected last month. ''[...]'' Justice Hannan reportedly said that she has “great reservations” and does not accept that the father has an authentic willingness or capacity to disavow engaging in the behaviours in question and his connections to the community. She further went on to state that it was inevitable that the man's children would be exposed to his fetish, which she claimed would badly affect them. However, now the father has said that he felt he was being discriminated against because of his links to the “adult baby diaper lover community”. The Australian national wrote to the Daily Telegraph describing the decision as “horrendous”. He also added that what he chooses to do in the privacy of his own home without any children present is his own business."''

*'''[https://www.cullmantribune.com/2023/05/11/cullman-county-man-sentenced-to-75-years-for-failure-to-register-as-sex-offender/ Cullman County man sentenced to 75 years for failure to register as sex offender] (2023)'''
*:''"Cullman County Circuit Court Judge Greg Nicholas on Wednesday, May 10, 2023, sentenced David Lee Moore, of Hanceville, to 75 years in prison. The sentence stems from Moore’s March 1 conviction for failing to register as a sex offender with the Cullman County Sheriff’s Office in violation of the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act. “As I stated after the trial our sex offender registration laws are tough for good reason and we will not only prosecute those who break them to the fullest, but we will also ask for tough sentences on anyone who is convicted,” said Cullman County District Attorney Champ Crocker. Moore was convicted in a one-day trial in March."''

*'''[https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdtx/pr/terlingua-man-sentenced-prison-running-child-obscenity-website Terlingua Man Sentenced to Prison for Running a Child Obscenity Website] (2021)'''
*:''"A federal judge today sentenced 65-year-old Thomas Alan Arthur to 40 years in federal prison for operating a website dedicated to publishing writings that detailed the sexual abuse of children. ''[...]'' According to trial evidence, Arthur began operating the Mr. Double website in 1996, and began charging members for access to the site in 1998. ''[...]'' "This repugnant exploitation of innocent children has no place in society." ''[...]'' This case was brought as part of Project Safe Childhood, a nationwide initiative to combat the growing epidemic of child sexual exploitation and abuse, launched in May 2006 by the Department of Justice. Led by U.S. Attorneys’ Offices and CEOS, Project Safe Childhood marshals federal, state and local resources to better locate, apprehend and prosecute individuals who exploit children via the Internet, as well as to identify and rescue victims."''

*'''[https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/editorials/article272538992.html?taid=63fb0383c222f40001b63d6a&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter He was homeless and mentally ill. A judge sentenced him to 150 years. Is that justice?] (2023)'''
*:''"The question is whether the 32-year-old man diagnosed with schizophrenia — who talked in court about shutting off electricity in Russia with his mind — should spend the rest of his life in prison. Stephens is a former Arizona State University wrestler who became homeless after suffering from untreated schizophrenia for years. In 2016, he walked into a Sweetwater Best Buy and snatched a laptop and other merchandise. When employees confronted him, he pulled out his own laptop, declaring, ”Look, I have child pornography!” He began publicly showing his computer screen, lying down between two sets of sliding doors and perusing the illegal images as customers walked by. ''[...]'' Stephens could have gotten those three years, plus required treatment, had he accepted a plea deal from prosecutors on one count of child-porn possession — a charge that seems to fit the crime better, based on what we know. Stephens wasn’t accused of producing or distributing the pornographic material. ''[...]'' The state asked asked for a 21-year sentence. Still, that’s not even close to the off-the-charts 150 years handed down by Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Veronica Diaz with “a minimum of public explanation,” the Herald reported. Diaz applied the maximum sentence allowed under law."''

[[File:Schad.jpg|thumb|One punishment involved posting these signs]]
*'''[https://www.foxnews.com/story/sex-offender-ordered-by-judge-to-post-signs Sex Offender Ordered by Judge to Post Signs] (2015)'''
*:''"Under a judge's order, a man who has admitted molesting a boy has posted signs around his house and a decal on his car proclaiming that he is a sex offender. The hand-painted signs reading "A Sex Offender Lives Here" are posted on all four sides of Leroy Schad's white house in this central Kansas town of only about 150 people. His vehicle has a large decal with bold yellow lettering reading "Sex Offender In This Car." Schad, 72, was originally charged with four counts of taking indecent liberties with a 9-year-old girl and an 11-year-old boy in 2005. He was allowed to plead guilty in March 2007 to a lesser charge of aggravated indecent solicitation of a child, and the original charges were dismissed."''

*'''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163509/Court-rules-32-year-old-Marshall-Hollins-sex-17-year-old-legal--pictures-not.html Court rules that 32-year-old man's sex with 17-year-old was legal... but pictures of it were not] (2012)'''
*:''"Although a man who was 32 wasn't breaking the law by having sex with a 17-year-old girl in 2008, he was by photographing the act, the Illinois Supreme Court ruled Thursday. Marshall Hollins was convicted in Stephenson County of making child pornography and sentenced to 8 years in prison. He admitted he had sex with the girl when she was 17, which is the age of sexual consent in Illinois.."''

*'''[https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/women-who-stray/201208/insatiable-wife-teacher-sent-jail-group-sex Insatiable Wife (Teacher) Sent to Jail for Group Sex] (2012)'''
*:''"This weekend, Fort Worth, Texas high school teacher Brittni Colleps was sentenced to five years in prison after conviction of having sex with five of her male students. The students were '''all over the age of eighteen''', and consented to the acts. But, Brittni and her husband were swingers, and salacious videos of the sex were made, and viewed by the jury."''

*'''[http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/12/1057979647638.html Associated Press: "Toe-sucker gets life"] (2003)'''
*:''"The former supervisor of an American youth program was sentenced Friday to life in prison on 25 counts of lewd conduct and assault for sucking the toes of 20 boys. Trenton Veches, 32, will be eligible for parole in 15 years."''

*'''[http://www.lawcrossing.com/article/1949/Case-of-the-20-Dirty-Pictures/lcarticle_topicdetailpage.php?topic=18 Kilpatrick, James. "Can someone be convicted for mere possession of porn materials"] (2005)'''
*:''"In June 2002, Phoenix police arrested ''[Morton R.]'' Berger on a state warrant charging him with sexual exploitation of a minor. Specifically, he was charged with possession of 20 photographs depicting, among other things, children being raped by adults, children engaging in sexual acts with other children, and children in sexual acts with animals. The 20 images introduced at trial were part of a large collection of pornographic images accumulated over a period of at least six years. A jury found Berger guilty on 20 counts of sexually exploiting children under the age of 15 and sentenced him to 10 years on each count, the sentences to run consecutively. Last May the Arizona Supreme Court affirmed that judgment. ''[...]'' There is no evidence that he himself ever engaged in distributing, exhibiting, receiving, selling, purchasing, electronically transmitting or even "exchanging" pornographic images, all of which the Arizona law forbids. He was convicted solely of "possessing" such images. He collected them. These facts should weigh in your calculus, for good or ill: He is 52 years old, married, a father of four, an award-winning teacher of world history. He has no criminal record of any sort. The state offered no evidence that he has ever created pornography or improperly touched a minor."''

*'''[https://www.ipce.info/newsletters/e_26/absurdities.htm Six years for touching buttocks] (2006)'''
*:''"A former elementary school teacher was sentenced to six years in state prison for touching the buttocks of a 10-year-old girl. ''[...]'' He must register as a sex offender and cannot teach again."''

*'''[https://www.ipce.info/newsletters/e_26/absurdities.htm Man sentenced for lewd acts on boy] (2008)'''
*:''"A 61-year-old man has been sentenced to six years in a state prison for kissing an 11-year-old boy on the lips in the Joshua Hills Elementary school cafeteria, court officials said."''

*'''[https://www.wnd.com/2005/07/31134/ Man grabs girl's arm - now he's a sex offender] (2005)'''
*:''"A man who grabbed a 14-year-old girl's arm to chastise her after she walked in front of his car, causing him to swerve to avoid hitting her, must register as a "sex offender," the Appellate Court of Illinois has ruled. Fitzroy Barnaby, a 28-year-old Evanston, Illinois, man was prosecuted for attempted kidnapping and child abduction charges following a November 2002 incident in which he nearly hit the teen with his vehicle. The girl testified Barnaby yelled, "Come here, little girl," when he jumped out of his car and grabbed her arm. She broke away and called authorities. Barnaby says he was merely trying to lecture her for her carelessness. The trial jury accepted Barnaby's version of the story, but found him guilty of unlawful restraint of a minor – a sex offense under Illinois law."''

==Charging, Punishment and Imprisonment of "victims"==

*'''[https://www.cleveland.com/news/2023/10/new-ohio-bill-would-require-porn-websites-to-verify-users-ages-criminalize-underage-access.html New Ohio bill would require porn websites to verify users’ ages, criminalize underage access] (2023)'''
*:''"New bipartisan legislation in the Ohio House would require pornography websites to verify that users are adults, make it a crime for minors to lie about their age to access such sites ''[...]'' Ohioans younger than 18 who access adult websites using fake ID information could be charged with a fourth-degree misdemeanor, which could bring up to 30 days in jail and a $250 fine. ''[...]'' Demetriou said in an interview that he introduced the bill because [[Research: The effects of pornography|many studies]] indicate that adolescents who watch pornography can suffer from “serious mental-health issues” as a result. “I want to protect my family and I want to protect every family in Ohio,” said Demetriou, the father of two young boys. “This is common-sense legislation that creates common sense barriers for kids to access this harmful material.”"''

*'''[https://apnews.com/article/ohio-police-child-sexual-abuse-response-tiktok-0477a43e82b1d9120b35d8ce223af007 Police suggested charging a child for her explicit photos. Experts say the practice is common] (2023)'''
*:''"But instead of treating the girl as a crime victim, an officer seemingly threatened to charge her under a law most people view as designed to protect child victims. The shocking interaction was recorded last week on body camera audio and by the father’s doorbell camera in Columbus, Ohio. The footage drew criticism from the public and from experts who said law enforcement officials have long misused laws meant to protect children by threatening to charge them with being part of the same crime. ''[...]'' “These laws were really intended to prevent sexual abuse of children, to protect against the exploitation of children,” Shah said. “So weaponizing these laws against children to bring charges against them really misunderstands the law, and even worse, is flouting the law’s purpose.” It’s hard to know how many children are charged, partly because prosecutors can use the charges to elicit guilty pleas to lesser offenses, she said."''

*'''[https://www.weekend.at/chronik/verurteilt-bub-zieht-kinderporno-handel-im-darknet-auf Incredible case in Vienna: A young person traded illegal porn on the Darknet on a large scale. The judgment is already final (Translation)] (2023)'''
*:''"A 16-year-old boy had traded pornographic material from abused children on the dark web on a large scale and in a highly professional manner. ''[...]'' The grounds for the judgment showed that between 2021 - he was 14 at the time - and the summer of 2022, he had procured a total of 2,100 prohibited files, saved them and then offered them to interested parties on a marketplace on the Darknet. The boy handled the sales in a highly professional manner, for example by using online chats or producing snippets of relevant videos that were available as so-called teasers. He also made screenshots with price lists and offered "proof" that the offered material actually existed. ''[...]'' In addition, the 16-year-old was instructed to start and regularly provide evidence of psychotherapy and probation was ordered. The court also assumed that the boy had earned at least 6,000 euros with the traded child abuse depictions - he has to repay this amount."''

*'''[https://www.brongersma.info/images/Paidika2.pdf "The Hysteria Over Child Pornography and Paedophilia," ''Paidika'', 2, 13-34.] (1987)'''
*:''"The case of "Amy", a 12-year-old girl from California, is one blatant example of this institutional abuse. Amy's family sought counseling in California after Amy and her stepfather revealed to the mother that he had fondled her on several occasions. The family therapist they consulted reported the incident, as required under California law, to the police, who filed felony child abuse charges against the stepfather. The stepfather pled not guilty when he was charged, and the girl refused to testify against him. Frustrated by Amy's will not to testify, child protection workers placed Amy in solitary confinement in a juvenile prison. For 9 days, she was confined to a four-by-eight foot room with only a bed and lamp, and for a few days, a television set. When the judge in the case saw that Amy's resolve not to testify could not be broken, the case was dismissed. ''[...]'' A more recent case in Massachusetts involves two youths, ages 14 and 15, who were confined in various locked facilities for at least a five month period--part of the time in Federal facilities--as "material witnesses" in the case of a Boston-area man with whom they had lived, who is accused of Mann Act violations, after they attempted to recant all or part of previous statements they had made concerning the man."''

*'''[http://annabelleigh.net/messages/353484.htm Trexler, Phil. "Summit judge jails 14-year-old," The Beacon Journal.] (2006)'''
*:''"A judge has jailed a 14-year-old girl who ran away rather than testify against a man accused of molesting her. The Norton Middle School student is being held indefinitely in an isolated area of the Summit County Jail on the orders of Common Pleas Judge James Murphy. The teen, jailed since Wednesday, insists she is not a sex abuse victim and is demanding a lawyer be assigned to represent her, court records show. However, jail officials said Monday she cannot speak with anyone without permission from county prosecutors. Prosecutors say the teen is a material witness and is being held in jail for her own protection. But lawyers for defendant Galo Sanchez-Pesantes contend the state -- with approval from the girl's mother-- has "effectively kidnapped" the teen, holding her in an adult jail while denying her access to an attorney in an effort to force her testimony. ''[...]'' Sanchez-Pesantes is accused of unlawful sexual conduct with a minor stemming from a Jan. 20 incident in which the boyfriend of the girl's mother allegedly saw the two on a couch. The girl denied having sex and refused to write a statement for police, defense attorneys said. "She said no, nothing happened with (Sanchez-Pesantes) and she said she told that to everyone, but no one wanted to listen," Brouse said Monday."''

*'''McCarthy, Rebecca. "Jailed Teen Again Refuses To Testify Against Father," Atlanta Constitution, 14 October (1988)'''
*:''"An 18-year-old Lilburn woman refused for a second time Thursday to testify in her father's child molestation trial and remained in jail on a contempt of court charge. Bond was set at $100,000. Deidre Lee Dickey was jailed Wednesday after refusing to testify against Ed R. Dickey, who is on trial on charges of sexual abuse against Miss Dickey and her two younger sisters. Superior Court Judge Bryant Huff called Miss Dickey back into court Thursday and asked if she was willing to testify, told her the consequences of not doing so and listened as she again refused to cooperate. "My understanding is that when the children realized what the position of the state was, they didn't want to testify," said defense attorney Calvin J. Leipold Jr. "I think it's one thing for children to ask for help and another for them to find themselves in a position like the ones these children are in." A prosecutor said he will recall Miss Dickey again Friday. "The court's order is that she testify, and when she refused she was held to be in willful contempt," prosecuting attorney Donald Johnstono said Thursday. "We'll be back again tomorrow." Miss Dickey's mother, Peggy Dickey, said in an interview Thursday that her daughters believe the state does not care about them or their family and decided not to let prosecutors "pressure them" into testifying. Another of Mrs. Dickey's daughters, age 16, collapsed on the stand Wednesday and could not testify, either. Mrs. Dickey said she believes the charges against her husband are untrue. The accusations were brought to the attention of prosecutors by the Dickeys' extended family."''

==Weaponized [[Research: The Dangers of Stigma|Stigma]]==
[[File:Pedodebt.png|thumb|Signs posted by debt collectors in Russia]]
*'''Tibetan girl forced to say that the Dalai Lama is a Pedophile (2023)'''
*:'''Editors:''' The incident spread throughout social media after the Dalai Lama's controversial "suck my tongue" comment. Video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCXtemSFAwk attached]. Backup on [https://twitter.com/P9Wb1kMpj484jEW/status/1650163222190628866 Twitter].
*'''"[https://msk1.ru/text/incidents/2022/11/03/71787329/ They've sent leaflets to my relatives that I am a pedophile and a drug dealer": Collectors have harassed the debtor because of a loan of three thousand rubles] (2023)'''
*:[Translation] ''"In an interview with a NGS.RU journalist the man said that he contacted Microcredit Organization "Zaymych" in 2022. First, he borrowed 3 thousand rubles online, paid off on time. In June, I issued a micro-loan for another 3 thousand rubles, but eh could not repay it on time because he lost his job. At first, the company's representatives would phone Peter day and night, demanding to repay the debt, taking into account interest: in a short time, the debt increased from 3 thousand rubles to 13 thousand. The relevant information appeared in the personal account. The resident of Novosibirsk did not agree with the requirements, in conversations he operated with knowledge of Russian legislation. According to the Federal Law "On Microfinance Organizations", in case of delay and accrual of interest, the amount of debt cannot grow more than 1.5 times from the initial loan. After that, he began receiving threatening messages. ''[...]'' At the next stage, unknown people began to terrorize the man's relatives. They were informed that leaflets had allegedly been hung around the district with warnings that he "shows an unhealthy interest in children" and "is suspected of distributing drugs." Finally, the actions of collectors were felt by the residents in the apartment next door. They received a letter allegedly from Peter himself, in which he demands to pay the debt for him, otherwise he would "burn several cars, fill all the doors with glue," etc. The letter says that the man took the money for sex reassignment surgery, which was followed by treatment in a psychiatric hospital. At the same time, the author profusely uses obscene language discrediting the Novosibirsk resident."''

==Internal contradictions==

[[File:Ethos.png|thumb|"Condoms for Boys" hysteria in the UK and America is one example of how heavy-handed adoption of [[safeguarding]] has been unsuccessful]]
Often, we see that countries who have pursued the prohibitionist scheme on sex with minors have not reaped the rewards one might expect from such initiatives. This is painfully obvious in the example of [[Research: Teen pregnancy|adolescent pregnancy]], with the more puritanical nations (US, UK and Australia) routinely reporting [[Wikipedia:Prevalence of teenage pregnancy|much higher rates]] than those who have been less zealous in their pursuit of protectionist initiatives towards girls (Scandinavia, and most of Europe).

==References==

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Krumme13

2024-01-06T15:54:18Z

StefiBeaLipton: /* Reactions */

'''Krumme13''' (Crooked13) is a German online media-portal and forum for [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]], that grew out of a now dissolved activist association of the same name.<ref>[https://taz-de.translate.goog/!1124679/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translated 2002 TAZ Piece]</ref> The portal, which runs social media accounts on YouTube and Instagram is managed by [[Dieter Gieseking]], who also founded the association in 1993, officially closing it in 2003. Their application for recognition as a non-profit association was rejected in 2001, as was the entry in the German register of associations. The association had at times faced controversy concerning its "field reports" into the status and nature of [[Child pornography|Youth Erotica]], before the statutes were strengthened in the 10s. The only convictions that came about from these events were nevertheless for a translated testimony from Dutch Politician [[Edward Brongersma]]'s widely legal ''Loving Boys'', and not images.<ref>[https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/unter-der-guertellinie-a-10e512bc-0002-0001-0000-000020899215?context=issue&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Spiegel: Google Trans]</ref><ref>[https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/tp/features/Krummes-Urteil-wegen-Paedophilie-im-Internet-3429241.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Telepolis - Google Trans]</ref> Subsequently, the men were acquitted.<ref>[https://krumme13.org/text.php?s=read&id=383 Krumme13 on acquittal], and [[https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Gericht=OLG%20Koblenz&Datum=26.09.2005&Aktenzeichen=2%20Ss%20256/05 official record]]</ref> The group also called for the relaxation of Youth Erotica statutes and legislation that criminalizes voluntary sexual relations between [[Minor-adult sex|minors and adults]], arguing in favor of freedom for minors.

More recently, Krumme13 has started criminal proceedings against '''Queer.de''', after they were accused of encouraging criminal activity.

==Reactions==

In autumn 2001, two members of Krumme13 were charged with distributing explicit materials on the internet via the Krumme13 website at the time.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20141028165953/http://www.cdu-fraktion-rlp.de/no_cache/presseinformationen/details/artikel/1472/1011/index.html?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=7&cHash=07425ddc7c CDU archive]</ref>

After protest actions by residents and child protection associations , Krumme13 continued its activities in Hamburg-Eidelstedt from 2002 . That year around 50,000 people signed a petition from the Schotterblume e. V. (contact and information center for victims of mental, physical and sexual violence in childhood and partnership) to the German Bundestag in order to achieve a ban on pedophile associations and the “dissemination of pedophile ideas”.<ref>[https://www.schotterblume.de/verein/news/035.htm “Schotterblume” starts a petition against pedophile associations]</ref>

==See also==

*[[Preventionism]] - An idea that was developed in Germany, with [[anti-contact]] MAPs.
*[[Vereniging MARTIJN]]
*[[NAMBLA]]
*[[Newgon]]

==External links==

*[https://krumme13.org/ Official Website] - In German.
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_sV--ca4bI Interview] - A relaxed interview with Dieter Gieseking (in German).
*[https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Krumme_13?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Google Translated Wikipedia Article]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Organisations]][[Category:Organisations: Sympathetic]][[Category:Organisations: Real-life]][[Category:Organisations: German]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: German]][[Category:History & Events: 2000s]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]][[Category:History & Events: 1990s]]

Krumme13

2024-01-06T15:50:11Z

StefiBeaLipton:

'''Krumme13''' (Crooked13) is a German online media-portal and forum for [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]], that grew out of a now dissolved activist association of the same name.<ref>[https://taz-de.translate.goog/!1124679/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translated 2002 TAZ Piece]</ref> The portal, which runs social media accounts on YouTube and Instagram is managed by [[Dieter Gieseking]], who also founded the association in 1993, officially closing it in 2003. Their application for recognition as a non-profit association was rejected in 2001, as was the entry in the German register of associations. The association had at times faced controversy concerning its "field reports" into the status and nature of [[Child pornography|Youth Erotica]], before the statutes were strengthened in the 10s. The only convictions that came about from these events were nevertheless for a translated testimony from Dutch Politician [[Edward Brongersma]]'s widely legal ''Loving Boys'', and not images.<ref>[https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/unter-der-guertellinie-a-10e512bc-0002-0001-0000-000020899215?context=issue&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Spiegel: Google Trans]</ref><ref>[https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/tp/features/Krummes-Urteil-wegen-Paedophilie-im-Internet-3429241.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Telepolis - Google Trans]</ref> Subsequently, the men were acquitted.<ref>[https://krumme13.org/text.php?s=read&id=383 Krumme13 on acquittal], and [[https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Gericht=OLG%20Koblenz&Datum=26.09.2005&Aktenzeichen=2%20Ss%20256/05 official record]]</ref> The group also called for the relaxation of Youth Erotica statutes and legislation that criminalizes voluntary sexual relations between [[Minor-adult sex|minors and adults]], arguing in favor of freedom for minors.

More recently, Krumme13 has started criminal proceedings against '''Queer.de''', after they were accused of encouraging criminal activity.

==Reactions==

In autumn 2001, two members of Krumme13 were charged with distributing explicit materials on the internet via the Krumme13 website at the time.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20141028165953/http://www.cdu-fraktion-rlp.de/no_cache/presseinformationen/details/artikel/1472/1011/index.html?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=7&cHash=07425ddc7c CDU archive]</ref>

After protest actions by residents and child protection associations , the K13 continued its activities in Hamburg-Eidelstedt from 2002 . That year around 50,000 people signed a petition from the Schotterblume e. V. (contact and information center for victims of mental, physical and sexual violence in childhood and partnership) to the German Bundestag in order to achieve a ban on pedophile associations and the “dissemination of pedophile ideas”.<ref>[https://www.schotterblume.de/verein/news/035.htm “Schotterblume” starts a petition against pedophile associations]</ref>

==See also==

*[[Preventionism]] - An idea that was developed in Germany, with [[anti-contact]] MAPs.
*[[Vereniging MARTIJN]]
*[[NAMBLA]]
*[[Newgon]]

==External links==

*[https://krumme13.org/ Official Website] - In German.
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_sV--ca4bI Interview] - A relaxed interview with Dieter Gieseking (in German).
*[https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Krumme_13?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Google Translated Wikipedia Article]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Organisations]][[Category:Organisations: Sympathetic]][[Category:Organisations: Real-life]][[Category:Organisations: German]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: German]][[Category:History & Events: 2000s]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]][[Category:History & Events: 1990s]]