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User talk:Jim Burton

2026-05-14T21:57:28Z

The Admins:

== Copies of unused files ==

Hello, Jim. Would you mind emailing me a copy of these memes that were deleted for being unused?

*[[:File:BirdsShitting.png]]
*[[:File:Frnotharm.png]]
*[[:File:LGBT_Groomer.png]]

I am not going to upload them again, I just want them for my meme collection. Thank you. [[User:JJ1|JJ1]] ([[User talk:JJ1|talk]]) 21:38, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

:Sent to Jim by Admin - Should be with you soon. --[[User:The Admins|The Admins]] ([[User talk:The Admins|talk]]) 21:57, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

User:The Admins

2026-03-31T03:46:47Z

The Admins: /* NW */

__NOTOC__
This account is now run by site admin, and has been vacated by Jim Burton. He has ceased all frontline activism, and with that, Newgon as a whole is no longer active in those areas. Present aims:

==Redirect Antis==

[[User:The Admins/AntisRedirect]] and [[List of CSA/anti-pedophile proponents]].

==Wind-down priorities==

*Appoint a Matrix Scout, add to Editorial Team.

====NW====

*Redirect names of all high profile antis to the list article, so their names appear in categories.
*Categorize uncategorized files that need to enter the system.
:*At the same time, identify likely candidates for the Chronological Archive from the above files
*Get FST links replaced [https://www.newgon.net/wiki/Special:LinkSearch?target=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.freespeechtube.org%2Fv%2F&namespace=]

===Future===

*Newgon, or some other project in the MAP sphere could establish a news blogging or aggregation service, possibility to expand towards short-mid-length high quality presentist editorials.
*Trust and Safety + PR Team to underpin the communities above. Minimum rules and guidelines for communities.
*Improve language in general throughout, eliminating inappropriate language, without censoring, sanitizing or compromising ''meaning'' of language. This means that we remain accessible to the average "outsider", and only introduce value-neutral language where appropriate.

====NW====

*Get a language extension added to NewgonWiki.
*Get robots and supervised AI editing set up on NewgonWiki.

MediaWiki:Sitenotice

2026-03-13T01:28:39Z

The Admins: Blanked the page

Pediverse

2025-10-25T09:17:02Z

The Admins: /* Generally considered safe */

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse as a concept==

The idea of a distinct pediverse community, and its realization, is a thing of the early 20s.

MAP social media servers had long existed on Mastodon (2019, according to our section on NNIA predecessors) by the time "Pediverse" came into use. It is not known when the exact term first came into use, but excluding misspellings of "fediverse", there are a few important dates per platform:

*21 Dec, 2022 on X<ref>[https://x.com/sikanomaly/status/1605667884562145281 "You know they wanted to call it the pediverse. Sounds better than Groomerville."]</ref> Mentioned with increasing velocity from later in 2023.
*10 Mar, 2023 on NewgonWiki (this article's creation).
*09 Oct, 2023 in a blog post by a server admin.<ref>[https://www.mapblog.xyz/?p=641 Joining & Changing the Pediverse]</ref>
*23 Jun, 2024 on Kiwifarms. Various "callouts" had by then referred to it as "Pediverse".

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

:''Readers are advised to conduct their own research on instance content and the legalities within their home jurisdiction before viewing these servers. We are not responsible for their content and do not share their names or addresses to facilitate sharing of content that may violate any law.''

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Akkoma/Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Most recently, the closure of Nyaw and NNIA led users to rush to instances like Cottoncandy.cafe.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux. Please inform us if things change.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

Excluding NNIA, the first pediverse servers that were "built to last" began to come out in 2023, observing content-moderation standards that allowed them to avoid the suspension of domain properties - something that effectively killed an instance due to the way servers federated.

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (from Jan 2024, 60 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''[[FreeSpeechTube]] (from Jun 2023, 140 MAU)'''

::A [[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]] instance with around 140 monthly active users. PeerTube is a network of servers devoted to the sharing and archiving of '''video content'''.

*'''MAPSupport.de (from Mar 2023, 300 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has survived for a long time by imposing strict rules against erotica and fascism. The instance's owner has been investigated by their local police department after a false report, but no fictional pornography could be found on their hard drive. They have been criticised for falsely alleging that other instances are involved in the trading of pornography and malicious behaviour - this followed pressure from [[anti]]s who turned the site into an "anti-woke" meme on X.com.

::This instance has grown to be as large as NNIA by active number of user accounts.

*'''Cottoncandy.cafe'''

::Akkoma instance that is relatively popular and established.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space, NNIAS.net and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::In 2025, NNIA announced its broadest-sweeping crackdown on non-conforming expression, with all individuals involved in [[pro-c]] organizing (anywhere) or sharing of child erotica asked to migrate away from NNIA. Numerous servers, including those opposed to the sharing of erotica, were also to be defederated due to pro-c opinions. After facing criticism, it was decided that all federating parts of NNIA would be shut down, possibly with permanent effect, leaving the self-contained NNIA.cc server in operation.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Nyaw.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Appeared for around a week or two after Cutiepaws disappeared.

*'''Cutiepaws.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Successor to Puppyspace.org, a previous and similar instance. This was a large instance by the time admin decided it was too much work to keep running. A grace period was given to allow account migration.

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that had some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It ran on Lemmy, at the time an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. The creator of this instance had stated they would not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]]. Maintaining it became too much of a chore, and it had problems with some unregulated content.

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove - (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than host country, Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025. Other instances often defederate childlove's new domains because of its content.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo was generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which had suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (above), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Was relatively easy to join, and was known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Map_fediverse MAP Fediverse] - Wiki article. We are not responsible for the content of instances this article refers to and advise reviewers to conduct the necessary research before visiting them.
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

Pediverse

2025-10-25T09:12:27Z

The Admins:

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse as a concept==

The idea of a distinct pediverse community, and its realization, is a thing of the early 20s.

MAP social media servers had long existed on Mastodon (2019, according to our section on NNIA predecessors) by the time "Pediverse" came into use. It is not known when the exact term first came into use, but excluding misspellings of "fediverse", there are a few important dates per platform:

*21 Dec, 2022 on X<ref>[https://x.com/sikanomaly/status/1605667884562145281 "You know they wanted to call it the pediverse. Sounds better than Groomerville."]</ref> Mentioned with increasing velocity from later in 2023.
*10 Mar, 2023 on NewgonWiki (this article's creation).
*09 Oct, 2023 in a blog post by a server admin.<ref>[https://www.mapblog.xyz/?p=641 Joining & Changing the Pediverse]</ref>
*23 Jun, 2024 on Kiwifarms. Various "callouts" had by then referred to it as "Pediverse".

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

:''Readers are advised to conduct their own research on instance content and the legalities within their home jurisdiction before viewing these servers. We are not responsible for their content and do not share their names or addresses to facilitate sharing of content that may violate any law.''

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Akkoma/Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Most recently, the closure of Nyaw and NNIA led users to rush to instances like Cottoncandy.cafe.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux. Please inform us if things change.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (from Jan 2024, 60 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''[[FreeSpeechTube]] (from Jun 2023, 140 MAU)'''

::A [[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]] instance with around 140 monthly active users. PeerTube is a network of servers devoted to the sharing and archiving of '''video content'''.

*'''MAPSupport.de (from Mar 2023, 300 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has survived for a long time by imposing strict rules against erotica and fascism. The instance's owner has been investigated by their local police department after a false report, but no fictional pornography could be found on their hard drive. They have been criticised for falsely alleging that other instances are involved in the trading of pornography and malicious behaviour - this followed pressure from [[anti]]s who turned the site into an "anti-woke" meme on X.com.

::This instance has grown to be as large as NNIA by active number of user accounts.

*'''Cottoncandy.cafe'''

::Akkoma instance that is relatively popular and established.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space, NNIAS.net and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::In 2025, NNIA announced its broadest-sweeping crackdown on non-conforming expression, with all individuals involved in [[pro-c]] organizing (anywhere) or sharing of child erotica asked to migrate away from NNIA. Numerous servers, including those opposed to the sharing of erotica, were also to be defederated due to pro-c opinions. After facing criticism, it was decided that all federating parts of NNIA would be shut down, possibly with permanent effect, leaving the self-contained NNIA.cc server in operation.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Nyaw.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Appeared for around a week or two after Cutiepaws disappeared.

*'''Cutiepaws.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Successor to Puppyspace.org, a previous and similar instance. This was a large instance by the time admin decided it was too much work to keep running. A grace period was given to allow account migration.

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that had some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It ran on Lemmy, at the time an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. The creator of this instance had stated they would not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]]. Maintaining it became too much of a chore, and it had problems with some unregulated content.

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove - (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than host country, Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025. Other instances often defederate childlove's new domains because of its content.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo was generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which had suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (above), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Was relatively easy to join, and was known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Map_fediverse MAP Fediverse] - Wiki article. We are not responsible for the content of instances this article refers to and advise reviewers to conduct the necessary research before visiting them.
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

Pediverse

2025-10-25T09:11:03Z

The Admins: /* Pediverse as a concept */

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse as a concept==

MAP social media servers had long existed on Mastodon (2019, according to our section on NNIA predecessors) by the time "Pediverse" came into use. It is not known when the exact term first came into use, but excluding misspellings of "fediverse", there are a few important dates per platform:

*21 Dec, 2022 on X<ref>[https://x.com/sikanomaly/status/1605667884562145281 "You know they wanted to call it the pediverse. Sounds better than Groomerville."]</ref> Mentioned with increasing velocity from later in 2023.
*10 Mar, 2023 on NewgonWiki (this article's creation).
*09 Oct, 2023 in a blog post by a server admin.<ref>[https://www.mapblog.xyz/?p=641 Joining & Changing the Pediverse]</ref>
*23 Jun, 2024 on Kiwifarms. Various "callouts" had by then referred to it as "Pediverse".

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

:''Readers are advised to conduct their own research on instance content and the legalities within their home jurisdiction before viewing these servers. We are not responsible for their content and do not share their names or addresses to facilitate sharing of content that may violate any law.''

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Akkoma/Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Most recently, the closure of Nyaw and NNIA led users to rush to instances like Cottoncandy.cafe.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux. Please inform us if things change.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (from Jan 2024, 60 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''[[FreeSpeechTube]] (from Jun 2023, 140 MAU)'''

::A [[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]] instance with around 140 monthly active users. PeerTube is a network of servers devoted to the sharing and archiving of '''video content'''.

*'''MAPSupport.de (from Mar 2023, 300 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has survived for a long time by imposing strict rules against erotica and fascism. The instance's owner has been investigated by their local police department after a false report, but no fictional pornography could be found on their hard drive. They have been criticised for falsely alleging that other instances are involved in the trading of pornography and malicious behaviour - this followed pressure from [[anti]]s who turned the site into an "anti-woke" meme on X.com.

::This instance has grown to be as large as NNIA by active number of user accounts.

*'''Cottoncandy.cafe'''

::Akkoma instance that is relatively popular and established.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space, NNIAS.net and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::In 2025, NNIA announced its broadest-sweeping crackdown on non-conforming expression, with all individuals involved in [[pro-c]] organizing (anywhere) or sharing of child erotica asked to migrate away from NNIA. Numerous servers, including those opposed to the sharing of erotica, were also to be defederated due to pro-c opinions. After facing criticism, it was decided that all federating parts of NNIA would be shut down, possibly with permanent effect, leaving the self-contained NNIA.cc server in operation.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Nyaw.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Appeared for around a week or two after Cutiepaws disappeared.

*'''Cutiepaws.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Successor to Puppyspace.org, a previous and similar instance. This was a large instance by the time admin decided it was too much work to keep running. A grace period was given to allow account migration.

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that had some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It ran on Lemmy, at the time an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. The creator of this instance had stated they would not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]]. Maintaining it became too much of a chore, and it had problems with some unregulated content.

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove - (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than host country, Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025. Other instances often defederate childlove's new domains because of its content.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo was generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which had suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (above), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Was relatively easy to join, and was known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Map_fediverse MAP Fediverse] - Wiki article. We are not responsible for the content of instances this article refers to and advise reviewers to conduct the necessary research before visiting them.
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

Pediverse

2025-10-25T09:09:44Z

The Admins:

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse as a concept==

MAP social media servers had long existed on Mastodon (2019, according to our section on NNIA predecessors) by the time "Pediverse" came into use. It is not known when the exact term first came into use, but excluding misspellings of "fediverse", there are a few important dates per platform:

*21 Dec, 2022 on X<ref>[https://x.com/sikanomaly/status/1605667884562145281 "You know they wanted to call it the pediverse. Sounds better than Groomerville."]</ref> Mentioned with increasing velocity from later in 2023.
*10 Mar 2023 on NewgonWiki (this article's creation).
*09 Oct 2023 in a blog post by a server admin.<ref>[https://www.mapblog.xyz/?p=641 Joining & Changing the Pediverse]</ref>
*Jun 23, 2024 on Kiwifarms. Various "callouts" had by then referred to it as "Pediverse".

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

:''Readers are advised to conduct their own research on instance content and the legalities within their home jurisdiction before viewing these servers. We are not responsible for their content and do not share their names or addresses to facilitate sharing of content that may violate any law.''

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Akkoma/Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Most recently, the closure of Nyaw and NNIA led users to rush to instances like Cottoncandy.cafe.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux. Please inform us if things change.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (from Jan 2024, 60 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''[[FreeSpeechTube]] (from Jun 2023, 140 MAU)'''

::A [[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]] instance with around 140 monthly active users. PeerTube is a network of servers devoted to the sharing and archiving of '''video content'''.

*'''MAPSupport.de (from Mar 2023, 300 MAU, runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has survived for a long time by imposing strict rules against erotica and fascism. The instance's owner has been investigated by their local police department after a false report, but no fictional pornography could be found on their hard drive. They have been criticised for falsely alleging that other instances are involved in the trading of pornography and malicious behaviour - this followed pressure from [[anti]]s who turned the site into an "anti-woke" meme on X.com.

::This instance has grown to be as large as NNIA by active number of user accounts.

*'''Cottoncandy.cafe'''

::Akkoma instance that is relatively popular and established.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space, NNIAS.net and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::In 2025, NNIA announced its broadest-sweeping crackdown on non-conforming expression, with all individuals involved in [[pro-c]] organizing (anywhere) or sharing of child erotica asked to migrate away from NNIA. Numerous servers, including those opposed to the sharing of erotica, were also to be defederated due to pro-c opinions. After facing criticism, it was decided that all federating parts of NNIA would be shut down, possibly with permanent effect, leaving the self-contained NNIA.cc server in operation.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Nyaw.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Appeared for around a week or two after Cutiepaws disappeared.

*'''Cutiepaws.org (runs on Sharkey)'''

::Successor to Puppyspace.org, a previous and similar instance. This was a large instance by the time admin decided it was too much work to keep running. A grace period was given to allow account migration.

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that had some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It ran on Lemmy, at the time an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. The creator of this instance had stated they would not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]]. Maintaining it became too much of a chore, and it had problems with some unregulated content.

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove - (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than host country, Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025. Other instances often defederate childlove's new domains because of its content.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo was generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which had suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (above), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Was relatively easy to join, and was known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Map_fediverse MAP Fediverse] - Wiki article. We are not responsible for the content of instances this article refers to and advise reviewers to conduct the necessary research before visiting them.
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

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Research on NewgonWiki presents a collection of scientific research and other demonstrative references on matters relevant to [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]] and related topics. This is a concise work intended for use in situations such as online debates and essay writing. A broader range of articles on researchers and research topics can be found [[:Category:Research|in our Encyclopedia]]. Why not consider [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|'''getting involved''']] in the wider wiki project?</center>
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Are you an author who has been listed in these anthologies/elsewhere on NewgonWiki, and would like to talk to us? If so, please read our [[Research: Disclaimer for authors|disclaimer]] first.
If you have any queries, feedback, or submissions (either your own work or others') please talk to Jim or Prue at [https://forum.map-union.org/index.php MAP Forum], or [https://www.yesmap.net/contact e-mail an administrator]. You could even be given membership to edit this wiki!</center>
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Our Debate Guide summarizes arguments and counter arguments encountered online by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]]s and allies. We also refer to the related topic of youth choice within the sphere of minor-adult physical relationships. Debate Guide offers general advice and links to useful resources on these topics, including our own. Why not consider [[Introduction to Debate Guide|'''reading our introduction''']] or [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|'''getting involved''']] in the wider wiki project?</center>
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You may also find some other parts of the Wiki useful in debate situations. Check our [[Research|research]] anthologies for highly citable scientific articles on this subject. Our [[:Category: Official Encyclopedia|encyclopedia]] contains an easy to use database of all the individuals and organizations of interest to those who follow our [[Ethos of Newgon|ethos]]. [[Accounts and Testimonies|Our database of lived experiences]] lists personal testimonies intended to be used as evidence of positive relationships.

Debate Guide was written by a [[History and credits (Debate Guide)|'''range of authors during the years 2006-25''']]. If you are not pleased with the quality of Debate Guide, consider [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|getting involved]]. From the simplest of corrections to the most complex of new arguments, we want to hear from you, so please consider signing up for [[Help:Socials|MAP Forum]] or a chat such as [[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA]], where we may have people present.</center>
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Help:Socials

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Newgon (via the '''Yesmap.net''' server) now runs a Rocketchat server for trusted associates, tech support and researchers only.

The following platforms may all have one or more Newgon members or editors on them, and represent only part of the [[Minor attracted community|community]].

==Mastodon/[[Pediverse|Fediverse]]==

We are also supporting a [[Help:Joining the Yesmap Fedi|Mastodon instance]] which has now opened for applications.

Other fediverse instances exist, federating other servers, for example, '''MAPSupport.de'''. Others tolerate NSFW content such as NN and [[lolicon]] that may violate local statutes.

==Chat (unaffiliated)==

We maintain an internal channel for researchers and writers with a proven track record. Regular users of NewgonWiki may alternatively benefit from membership to any number of '''Matrix chat''' groups.

These are all completely independent of [[Newgon]], but some maintain historical links with it, and are more or less aligned with its aims. Newgon members are also known to be present in some of these groups:

*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA]] ([[PCMA|about]]) - An activist organization now associated with the address '''#pcma-public:chagai.website''' (official).
*[[Open MAP Community]] is also running a Matrix server: '''#omc:crypted.cafe''' - this is a more conventional space and less likely to connect you with actual members of Newgon, or people who know the admins.

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Mu

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'''Mu (μ)''' (map-union.org, f. 25 Jun, 2024) is an international, third-generation/third-wave [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]] umbrella organization with a primarily European and Asian focus. It hosts an online forum for MAPs/AAMs and Allies, and releases statements and information resources intended to represent a broad range of opinions within the MAP Community. Translation into multiple languages is an ultimate aim of Mu's information strategy.

Signature features of Mu's approach include a focus on seeking publicity and engaging with media via press releases (i.e. "visibility"), and an attempt to foster communication between parts of the community with [[Anti-contact|fundamentally different views on consent]].

==Founding==

Mu was set up by way of a 4-person "enclave circle" committee, with further committee members or guests to be invited by unanimous agreement. Two committee members had previously attended [[Ipce]] and [[Newgon]]-related functions, and a further two were unaffiliated with those groups:

*Brian Ribbon [Strategist]
*Percy Shelley [Communications Officer]
*Jim Burton [Content]
*Tommaso Battista [Languages Editor]

Mu plans to meet once a year.

==Coverage==

Mu achieved US national and social media coverage for its thoroughgoing defense of [[MAP Camp]] in 2024, and has been featured by Andy Ngo, Libs of TikTok, a former Member of the European Parliament, and on multiple occasions by [[Gays Against Groomers]].<ref>[https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/pedophile-group-claims-oppression-over-vt-camp-gathering-outrage-deeply-offensive-vermont-minor-attracted-persons-marshfield-montpelier-burlington-new-england-pedophilia-map-union-gender Pedophile group claims 'oppression' over Vt. camp gathering outrage: 'Deeply offensive']</ref><ref>[https://thefederalist.com/2024/09/26/activists-defend-canceled-minor-attracted-persons-camp-in-vermont-next-to-school/ Federalist article]</ref><ref>[https://x.com/againstgrmrs/status/1875624426613698594 LGBTQ...P?], [https://x.com/ladyonorato/status/1875846959598313869 Follow up by Francesca Donato]</ref> Various false claims about positions espoused by the group were presented in the Italian newsmagazine Gaeta.it, alongside claims "demonstrations were held in several cities, with signs and slogans in favor of the safety of children and against any form of legitimization of sexual acts with minors", leading to outcry on social media.<ref>[https://www.gaeta.it/nuova-organizzazione-map-union-chiede-diritti-per-i-pedofili-proteste-e-interrogativi-sulla-sicurezza-dei-minori Nuova organizzazione MAP-Union chiede diritti per i pedofili: proteste e interrogativi sulla sicurezza dei minori]</ref>

Almost a year after the initial controversy after the MAP Camp, former ''[[Wikipedia:Shameless (British TV series)|Shameless]]'' actor, [[Wikipedia:Kelli Hollis|Kelli Hollis]] posted an angry TikTok in which she attacked statements made by Mu and it's former spokesman, Brian Ribbon.<ref>[https://www.brianribbon.com/short-takes/laughing-at-the-angry-white-lady Laughing at the angry white lady]</ref><ref>[https://fstube.net/w/h9peVKgvgkbgF5HtihgZKd FST archive of the TikTok]</ref>

For a short time, Mu ran a highly successful [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy|Bluesky]] account under the "Mu HQ" handle, interacting with MAPs and members of the public. Mu plans to return to social media when an opportunity presents itself.

==Forum==

Upon its opening, Mu set up a forum modeled loosely on [[B4U-ACT|B4um]], but intended to be viewable by members of the public (bar politics and sensitive offsite operations).

There are ongoing plans to relocate and rebrand this forum.

==See also==

*[[MEDAL]] - MAP Equality, Dignity and Liberation.

==External links==

*[https://map-union.org Home]
*[https://forum.map-union.org/index.php Forum]
*[https://archive.ph/TqRiG Bluesky (Mu HQ social media)]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Organisations]][[Category:Organisations: Sympathetic]][[Category:Organisations: Web-based]][[Category:Organisations: Real-life]][[Category:Organisations: International]]

MAP Camp

2025-08-22T22:10:51Z

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[[File:Mapcam.png|thumb|MAP Camp logo superimposed on background]]
'''MAP Camp''' (formerly at mapcamp.net) was a meeting of [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]] in 2024 that led to public outcry over speculation as to its location in Vermont, US. It was planned by [[MEDAL]], prior to being administered and organized by a private individual within the [[Minor attracted community|MAP Community]].

The controversy took place over a number of days on Facebook and X (formerly Twitter) in September, 2024, when the meeting was meant to be taking place at an undisclosed campsite in Vermont. However, no physical meeting took place at the location reported by media as being the likely venue, after there was outcry over its proximity to a school. This led to at least two meetings being held within the local community, and new boundaries being drawn between the school and the campsite.

MAP Camp is an example of ''Freedom of Assembly'' as part of a MAP Rights agenda in the US. [[Mu]] (unrelated to MAP Camp) attempted to defend those rights in the wake of the controversy, and was quoted in national media after issuing defenses of the event.

==Legacy of anger==

MAP Camp went on to be shared frequently on X and other social media well into 2025, often with no acknowledgement that it was a historical story. For example, almost a year after the initial controversy after the MAP Camp, former ''[[Wikipedia:Shameless (British TV series)|Shameless]]'' actor, [[Wikipedia:Kelli Hollis|Kelli Hollis]] posted an angry TikTok in which she attacked MAP Camp, statements made by Mu and it's former spokesman, Brian Ribbon.<ref>[https://www.brianribbon.com/short-takes/laughing-at-the-angry-white-lady Laughing at the angry white lady]</ref><ref>[https://fstube.net/w/h9peVKgvgkbgF5HtihgZKd FST archive of the TikTok]</ref>

There are currently no further indications as to whether a similar event will be held in 2025.

==Coverage==

*[https://x.com/brainsturbator/status/1835667849697706315 First thread on X], and [https://x.com/brainsturbator/status/1836802888435179970 follow-up]
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20240918175058/https://www.timesargus.com/news/local/vsp-looking-into-possible-event-for-minor-attracted-persons/article_1742bcf8-753a-11ef-8fd9-e34b4898e965.html Initial Times Argus Story]
*[https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1836535078492737637 Libs of Tiktok] and [https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1836823945259143476 follow-up], and [https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1838703424008753227 a further follow up featuring Mu]. [https://x.com/againstgrmrs/status/1839264668600217708 GAG follow-up].
*[https://www.komonews.com/news/nation-world/vermont-state-police-monitoring-campground-gathering-of-acutely-marginalized-pedophiles-minor-attracted-persons-map-camp Komonews story]
*[https://vtdigger.org/2024/09/19/marshfield-erupts-after-learning-of-apparent-camping-event-advertised-for-minor-attracted-persons/ Another story]
*[https://vermontdailychronicle.com/cops-at-local-school-following-public-concern-over-map-a-k-a-pedophile-camp/comment-page-1/#comment-76783 VDC story], [https://vermontdailychronicle.com/state-police-know-of-social-media-claims-about-vt-pedophile-map-gathering-this-weekend/ follow-up] and [https://vermontdailychronicle.com/vermont-pedophile-camp-in-planning-stages-since-july/ follow up] ([https://fstube.net/w/vcGDPNCJ8FA1R7Vp7tcmyp their podcast])
*[https://fstube.net/w/caMb6hrCE2e7MDsFvm7FJs TPUSA video]
*[https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1837189153705926728 Andy Ngo coverage], [https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1837177750722883749 follow-up] and [https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1837241058045923586 follow-up]
*[https://spectator.org/vermont-pedophile-weekend-retreat-draws-parental-ire/?utm_medium=twitter Spectator article]
*[https://www.map-union.org/blog/press-release-mu-denounces-the-hysterical-and-violent-response-to-map-camp Initial Mu press release]
:*[https://www.map-union.org/blog/mus-response-to-social-media-coverage-mu-and-map-camp Follow-up]
*[https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/pedophile-group-claims-oppression-over-vt-camp-gathering-outrage-deeply-offensive-vermont-minor-attracted-persons-marshfield-montpelier-burlington-new-england-pedophilia-map-union-gender News coverage mentioning Mu]
:*[https://hardwickgazette.org/2024/09/24/school-communities-respond-to-map-concerns/ Hardwick Gazette]
*[https://thefederalist.com/2024/09/26/activists-defend-canceled-minor-attracted-persons-camp-in-vermont-next-to-school/ The Federalist]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Hysteria]][[Category:TV & Media]][[Category:History & Events]][[Category:History & Events: American]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]][[Category:History & Events: Moral controversies]]

Chronological Archive

2025-04-16T22:38:33Z

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The Chronological Archive is a long-term project '''under construction''' (see below for ways to help), that aims to chart the progress of the [[MAP Movement]] and adjacent cultural trends.

This means that the material we archive here will relate predominantly to political activism, covering the time period from the postwar era to the end of the early internet era (2010), in which [[Newgon]] was born, and new texts started to become routinely available on pirating websites. We will make further additions from before and after this period if the older material relates to activism or the newer material is of particular importance/rarity, or makes historical references. Image Files will be presented in a separate gallery above PDF and Wikitext files. External links and books are placed at the bottom of each year's entry, and any texts that are in need of re-hosting by Newgon will be highlighted in <span style="background:orange">orange</span>. We are not a historical ''academic'' archive, although our allies [http://Ipce.info Ipce] were known to serve this purpose, in the period leading up to around 2010 when organizations such as [[B4U-Act]] and our [[Research]] project took over. We are also not a ''video'' archive, although our allies [http://fstube.net FST] are. We may point to other secure/safe archive resources such as these, and further ''news'' archives at the end of an entry for a year.

'''Academics and Private Researchers''': For an article length treatment of the MAP Movement's association with the LGBT Movement, please see [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity]], and the enclosed [https://sci-hub.ru/10.1177/1363460713511103 article] by David Paternotte as a source. For an entire dissertation on the wider war on "Sexual Offending" in America, please see [https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/138757/sadeorio_1.pdf Punishing Queer Sexuality in the Age of LGBT Rights] by [[Scott De Orio]] ([[Media:Sadeorio 1.pdf|backup here]]). Both of these sources can be cross-referenced against the archive and other archives mentioned here, to form a fuller picture. Still unsure of where to find information or need direction for your studies? [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|Contact us]] or [[Help:Joining PCMA chat|join PCMA]].

We also need your help in constructing this database. We are in receipt of '''hundreds''' of documents and [[archive]] research leads which have not been utilised here, and [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|need your help]] to index them.

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==1948-54==

[[David Thorstad]] has written on some events prior to these dates - particularly with reference to pederast activists in the early German gay movement. His contributions will be highly visible in this archive.

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Raven.png|IQ pioneer John Raven's findings on adolescent intelligence in 1948 (see [[Research: Cognitive ability]]).
File:Guyon1951sociocultural.jpg|[[Rene Guyon]] (1951) - ''Human rights and the denial of sexual freedom''.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Bachelors-anonymous.pdf|Bachelors Anonymous]] - Early Gay Activist Organization associated with [[Harry Hay]].
*[[Text of Human Rights and the denial of sexual freedom]] - [[Rene Guyon]].

==1955-59==

Of relevance to this period are [[Frits Bernard]] and the [[Enclave Kring]], detailed in his 1987 essay and 1997 book, down the page. For a timeline of events leading up to and beyond this period, see [[moral panic]].

==1960-64==

==1965-69==

===External Archives and Web Pages===

* Boys for Sale: A Study of the Prostitution of Young Boys for Sexual Purposes. Dennis Drew and Jonathan Drake ([[Parker Rossman]]). Brown Book Company. New York 1969. [https://www.greek-love.com/general-history/boys-for-sale-pederasty-prostitution At Greek Love], [https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Boys+for+Sale&open=0&res=25&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def at Libgen]
* '''Book of interest:''' The Asbestos Diary (1966) by [[Casimir Dukahz]]. Download [https://www.greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Casimir%20Dukahz.%20The%20Asbestos%20Diary.pdf at Greek-love], [https://libgen.is/fiction/?q=the+asbestos+diary&criteria=&language=&format= at Libgen].
*'''Book of interest''': Russel Trainer. ''The Lolita Complex.'' Find at [https://annas-archive.org/md5/34a48c568695cc95e2ab8c4b23249759 Anna's Archive], [https://archive.org/details/lolitacomplex00trai/page/n1/mode/2up Web Archive] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. <small>'''Blurb:''' ''Through the use of case histories, professional opinions, court transcripts, interviews and police records, the author investigates the activities of real-life Lolitas and Humberts and offers insight into an important social problem. The book provides an abundance of case studies of such relationships in different parts of the country. These real life dramas demonstrate the prevalence of sexual experiences between young girls and older men, and the reasons for such relationships are carefully analyzed.''</small>
*[https://library.lol/main/3AC6AD077EA9566DC438F6FF4458F67C The Boys of Boise: Furor, Vice and Folly in an American City], by [[John G. Gerassi]], University of Washington Press, 2001 [1966]. His book documents and investigates the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boise_homosexuality_scandal 1955 Boise homosexuality scandal], which led to allegations that more than 100 males and teenage boys, had been involved in sexual acts with a “ring” of legally adult homosexual men. By the time the investigation wound down in January 1957, some 1,500 people had been questioned, sixteen men faced charges, and fifteen of them were sentenced to terms ranging from probation to life in prison. The scandal was a precursor to [[NAMBLA]], as the group which formed NAMBLA included activists from the Boston/Boise Committee (B/BC) and the ''Fag Rag'' collective, who alluded to the Boise scandal in forming the [[Boston-Boise affair|Boston/Boise]] Committee (B/BC) to protest a similar teenage hustler scandal in the 70's. This 1970's scandal led to NAMBLA's founding, enshrined in history by Mitzel (1980) as 'The Boston Sex Scandal', whilst Newgon has called it [https://library.lol/main/7A1E0ACB5C49BF3C627EB615A95DD16A The Boston/Boise Affair].
*Boy-lovers: Four sociological case-histories of men who loved boys, by Dennis Harmon (New York: Jumeaux Press, 1969). Extremely rare book which gives four case histories of sexual relationships between older and younger males ("men and boys"), written in an unusual mix of sociological discussion blended with frank description of past erotic activity. Amateur scan [http://library.lol/main/044B83220D7B52AEF20B2DE27C102EDC available via Libgen].

==1970==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Freund.png|[[Kurt Freund|Freund]] and Costell, landmark [[Phallometry|phallometric]] study. See [[Research: Prevalence]].
</gallery>

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest (published in 2008, but relating to 1966-75)''': Stephan Cohen (2008). ''The Gay Liberation Youth Movement in New York: "An Army of Lovers Cannot Fail".'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/cohen-gylib Archive.org], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=2C73453ECC3B3821728E654F75E55173 libgen] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.

==1971==

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest''': [[Walter Breen]] (J.Z. Eglinton) (1971). ''[[Greek Love]].'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/j.-z.-eglinton-greek-love-neville-spearman-publishers-2017 Archive.org], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=E2B1EA81B0F58D3F76D2CB41DD9AF2E1 libgen] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. [https://www.greek-love.com/general-non-fiction-pederasty/greek-love-eglinton-pederasty See review].

==1973==

===PDFs and Texts===

* [https://archive.bookfrom.net/tony-duvert/536264-strange_landscape.html Strange Landscape] - French open MAP [[Tony_Duvert|Tony Duvert]] wins prestigious award ''Prix Médicis'' for his fiction novel "Strange Landscape". Publishes MAP/AAM supportive philosophical tract [https://library.lol/main/E0FCA15E4D2DE02F0D869CB6A5BC4E23 Good Sex Illustrated] the following year.

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*The Pederasts. by [[Parker Rossman]] - Investigation (he was one himself) into the subculture, 1973, find [https://www.ipce.info/library/newspaper-article/pederasts at Ipce], and [https://sci-hub.mksa.top/10.1007/bf02699230 Sci Hub].

==1974==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:FHVS2vNWYAY828R.png|Berger, B. M. & Hackett, B. H. (1974) [https://sci-hub.se/10.1111/j.1540-4560.1974.tb00719.x ''On the decline of age grading in rural hippie communes''], J Social Issues 30,2:163-83.
</gallery>

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*<span style="background:orange">[http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=2DEA573FDCD494DF85C847B7009FA484 The Early Homosexual Rights Movement (1864-1935)]</span> - By [[David Thorstad]] and [[John Lauritsen]]. Concerns [[pederasty]].

==1975==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:1975Guardian.png|26th August 1975: Child-lovers ([[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]]) win fight for role in Gay Lib (The Guardian)
File:ABC1975controv.png|Media excerpts (unknown origin) on a 1975 Australian Media controversy in which the ABC defend a programme on [[Pederasty]]
</gallery>

==1976==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Ia thumb.jpg|Book cover
</gallery>

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://www.greek-love.com/general-non-fiction-pederasty/sexual-experience-between-men-and-boys-by-parker-rossman Sexual Experience Between Men and Boys] - By [[Parker Rossman]]. [https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Sexual+Experience+Between+Men+and+Boys&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def At Libgen], [https://www.pdfdrive.com/sexual-experience-between-men-and-boys-exploring-the-pederast-underground-d195217247.html at PdfDrive], [https://brongersma.info/images/Rossman_Sexual_Experience_Between.pdf True .PDF scan of the book]

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest''': Hal Wells, PhD (1976). ''Your child's right to sex.'' Find at [https://annas-archive.gs/md5/b20182f4869bc0a2e2c11b2ef59f4fc5? Anna's Archive], [https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/17/science/parents-wary-of-suppressing-sexuality-in-children.html reviewed in the NY Times]; or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.

==1977==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:Pie77protest.png|1977 protest outside of [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]]'s first open meeting
File:Bergerextension.png|<small>Berger, B. M. (1977) Child-rearing research in communes: the extension of adult sexual behavior to young children, in Oremland, E. K. & Oremland, J. D. (Eds.) The Sexual Gender and Young Children: The Role of the Educator.</small>
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

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*[[Text of Incest: The Last Taboo]] - Classic piece by Philip Nobile.
*[[Media:NIKS Magazine 01 1977.pdf|NIKS Magazine 01 (In Dutch)]] - Activism - These are just a sample of a foreign language magazine that is archived [https://www.brongersma.info/Tijdschriften in greater detail elsewhere].
*[[Media:NIKS Magazine 02 1977.pdf|NIKS Magazine 02 (In Dutch)]] - Activism
*[[Media:NIKS Magazine 03 1977.pdf|NIKS Magazine 03 (In Dutch)]] - Activism
*[[Media:NIKS Magazine 04 1977.pdf|NIKS Magazine 04 (In Dutch)]] - Activism
*[[Media:NIKS Magazine 05 1977.pdf|NIKS Magazine 05 (In Dutch)]] - Activism
*[[Media:NIKS Magazine 06 1977.pdf|NIKS Magazine 06 (In Dutch)]] - Activism
*[[Media:(2020) Disturbing Visions of Childhood - Rene Scherer 1970's Writing.pdf|Disturbing Visions of Childhood: René Schérer's Writing in the 1970s]] - 2020 Paper that refers back to the works of the French Academic in the 1970s.
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20140323100855/http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/6623395/a-child-s-sexual-bill-of-rights-pdf-164k?da=y&ifr=y A Child's Sexual Bill of Rights] - By the [[Childhood Sensuality Circle]].
</div>

==1978==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:Brookeshields.jpg|High Times article on Brooke Shields - "A sultry mix of all-american virgin and whore".
File:Prescottcourier1978.png|Prescott Courier article about the meetings that led to the formation of [[NAMBLA]].
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Text of Men loving boys loving men]] - Historic article by [[Gerald Hannon]].
*[[Media:Paedophile Information Exchange - Paedophilia, Some Questions and Answers.pdf|Paedophilia, Some Questions and Answers]] - Political pamphlet/mini-pub by [[Paedophile Information Exchange]].

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/132g PvdA (Partij van de Arbeid) senator], [[Edward Brongersma]] speaks with TV host Koos Postema about pedophilia on October 30, 1978 on the show ''Een Groot Uur U'' (in Dutch, with English subs).

==1979==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Mcr.png|1979 Military Chaplains Review mentions "[[Girllove]]" ironically. A decade later, a magazine actually existed for Girllovers.
File:Rule.png|Lesbian Feminist [[Jane Rule]] writes in ''The Body Politic''.
File:IncestRameySiecusReport.png|Ramey SIECUS Report on [[Incest]], see [[Research: Double-Taboo CSA]].
File:Consent.png|The British National Council for One Parent Families supported Age of Consent abolition in 1979.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Text of Pedophilia (PSVG)]] - Pamphlet.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''VIDEO:''' [https://fstube.net/w/pA1Y5PYJVDRDsM5ZvQr9nu Professor Tom Reeves in Army of Lovers or Revolt of the Perverts] - A scene of [[NAMBLA]] founder and spokesman [[Tom Reeves]] from the 1979 [[Rosa von Praunheim]] film ''Army of Lovers or Revolt of the Perverts'' (Armee der Liebenden oder Aufstand der Perverse).

==1980==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:The NAMBLA Constitution.pdf|NAMBLA's Constitution and Position Papers]], revised August 21, 1992. The document shows the the various issues that [[NAMBLA]] as an organization took positions on, up until 1992, including opposition to corporeal punishment and female genital mutilation. The first page shows the organization's Constitution, which was adopted by the membership in December, 1980.
*[[Media:Man boy love and feminism by David Thorstad.pdf|Man-Boy love and Feminism]] - by [[David Thorstad]].
*[[Media:Moody - 1980 - PAN Article.pdf|Roger Moody: 'Child Protection, English Style', in PAN: A Magazine about Boy-love, pp. 15-19.]]

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest''': [[Thomas O'Carroll]] (1980). ''Paedophilia: The Radical Case.'' Find at [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=B2E77812AF501703898554D0C970582F libgen], [https://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/index.htm Ipce (revised)] - version [http://library.lol/main/A3AE585C3F0C54C3EAB7CDC09EA8C90F backed up on Libgen]; or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
*'''Book of interest''': [[John Mitzel]] (1980). ''The Boston Sex Scandal.'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/mitzel-scandal Archive.org], [http://library.lol/main/7A1E0ACB5C49BF3C627EB615A95DD16A libgen], [https://www.greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Mitzel.Boston.Sex.Scandal.pdf greek-love] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
*'''Anthology of interest''' (of relevance to this period in time, published 2019): ''Out of the Mouth of Babes - Youth Speak Out on Youthlove.'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/OutOfTheMouthOfBabes_20190320/ Archive.org] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20191109191327/https://www.brongersma.info/images/Anthology_01.pdf backup]), [https://www.brongersma.info/images/Anthology_01.pdf BronWiki], [http://library.lol/main/A6298D2CAB4950CE39FAFBBF61AA25F1 Libgen] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
*'''Anthology of interest''' (2nd volume of the above, published 2019): ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove''. Find at [https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Libgen].
*'''News article (from 2014, concerning this period in time):''' [https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26352378 ''How did the pro-paedophile group PIE exist openly for 10 years?'']

==1981==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[:File:ChildrenAndSexprefacepartial.pdf|Children and Sex: New Findings, New Perspectives]], ed. by [[Larry Constantine]] and [[Floyd Martinson]]. Contains links to further 2 files covering the whole book. No OCR. See also, [https://annas-archive.org/md5/a9a11dea785281b872ffe39d85d0a002 Anna's Archive].
*[[Media:Moody - 1981 - Man-Boy Love and the Left.pdf|Man/boy love and the Left]] - in [https://library.lol/main/E9CBDB46170B45354650BEFF403D8341 ''The Age Taboo: Gay Male Sexuality, Power and Consent''], Ed. Daniel Tsang (Alyson Publications: Boston, and Gay Men's Press: London), pp. 147-156 - By [[Roger Moody]].
*Paul Wilson, [https://www.ipce.info/host/wilson/index.htm ''The Man they called a Monster: Sexual Experiences between Men and Boys''] (Cassell Australia Limited: Maryborough, Victoria, 1981). (IPCE Link). [https://annas-archive.org/md5/31adf21f221247ad8c64e0415938b347 PDF also available] (Annas Archive external link). ([https://web.archive.org/web/20130425190233/http://snifferdogonline.com/reports/Child%20Abuse,%20Sexuality%20and%20Violence/The%20Man%20They%20Called%20a%20Monster.pdf webarchive copy]) - Examines the life of [[Clarence Osborne]].

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''VIDEO:''' [https://fstube.net/w/51D11TkyaEnCoMcR594d9b Boys for Sale: Child trafficking ring in the U.S.] In 1981, Dr. Tom Philpott would be interviewed for the documentary film in which he discusses the existence of an interstate child trafficking ring in the U.S. perpetrated by political elite. Also on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KdAY_jppPk YouTube].

==1982==

===PDFs and Texts===

*Feminist academic [[Stevi Jackson]] publishes ''[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:1982_Jackson_Childhood_and_Sexuality.pdf Childhood and Sexuality]'', a thoughtful and non-sensationalist text on the topic.

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Thorstad.jpg|<small>In 1982, [[David Thorstad]], a founding member of [[NAMBLA]] shows a machine copy of what he says is a 1968 calendar with a photo that police suspected might be missing [[Etan Patz]].</small>
File:Boy_Love_convention_is_protested_1982-10-11.png|[[NAMBLA]] meeting draws protests, offends some LGBT and [[Feminism|Feminist]] groups. [[Bill Andriette]], then 16, is elected a spokesman of [[NAMBLA]].
File:Tom Reeves - The Ledger - Oct 13 1982.png|Another take on the previous story
File:Fair_coverage_1982-11-02.png|[[NAMBLA]] spokesman [[Bill Andriette]] re: <q>Boy Love convention is protested</q> in ''The Philadelphia Observer''.
File:Anti-nuc1982.jpg|Anti-Nuclear Demo with NAMBLA.
</gallery>

==1983==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:PIEAOA.png|<small>Survey of [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] members (left) appears to reveal that most are what we would now term [[Hebephilia|hebephiles]] - a term not in wide use at the time. Similar work (right) from the Internet era.</small>
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*Sexuality, Violence, and Psychological Sequelae (book), by [[Michael C. Baurmann]]. ''"This is one of the largest studies ever conducted -- anywhere -- of sexual interactions between adults and minors. It encompasses over 8,000 alleged victims, representing all reported sex offenses involving females under age 20 and males under age 14, in the German state of Lower Saxony, in the years 1969-1972."'' We have saved the [[Media:Baurmann preface.pdf|preface]] and the full document can be found on [https://web.archive.org/web/20081008064936/http://www.shfri.net/trans/baurmann/baurmann.cgi?counted=yes Web Archive], and the [https://michaelbaurmann.info/ author's site, in sections].
*[[Media:The Child-Lovers, a Study of Paedophiles in Society, by Glenn Wilson & David Cox.pdf|The Child-Lovers: A Study of Paedophiles in Society]] (book) - by Glenn Wilson and David Cox. Landmark study of [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] enclosed. The [https://archive.org/details/childlovers Web Archive] have a backup. [https://www.ipce.info/host/wilson_83/index.htm Ipce] have a text copy.
*[https://library.lol/fiction/26CABE72D043303A4AF3CFA533741978 Crowstone] (in full, The Chronicles of Qamar: Crowstone - A sword and sorcery boy-love tale), by [[Hakim Bey]]. A rare fiction novel by the influential American Anarchist author and poet Peter Lamborn Wilson (October 20, 1945 – May 22, 2022), primarily known for his concept of Temporary Autonomous Zones, short-lived spaces which elude formal structures of control. This book saw the first use of his now infamous pen-name Hakim / Hakim Bey.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*Video: [https://fstube.net/w/w5uoxKyKMCFzxGSqFBnptt PIE (Paedophile Information Exchange)] video interview with the [[Paedophile Information Exchange|activist organization]].

==1984==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Standard071184.png|London Evening Standard: Child Sex ring's Home Office Link
File:BabyPros.jpg|Inciardi, J. (1984). [https://www.newgon.net/prd/lib/Inciardi1984.html "Little girls and sex: A glimpse at the world of the “baby pro”"] Deviant Behaviour, Volume 5, 1984 - Issue 1-4.
File:Jesse16nambla.JPG|84' NAMBLA Meeting, with a 16 year old speaker "Jesse" and [[Harry Hay]] among others such as Thorstad.
File:Pedophobia.JPG|Pedophobic campaign in the Philippines - cited by [[Spartacus International Gay Guide]]
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Adult Child Sex by Robert Ehman.pdf|Adult Child Sex, by Robert Ehman]] - Philosophical Analysis.

===Audio, Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[[Media:Legal and social aspects of pedophilia by Brongersma.mp3|Legal and social aspects of pedophilia]] - Audio recording of a speech before gay Stanford Students by [[Edward Brongersma]].
*[https://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/thorstad_1986.htm Man-Boy Love Then and Now: A Personal-Political Appraisal] - By [[David Thorstad]]. Published in 1986. He compares the 1984 movement to the early German gay/pederast movement. [https://archive.org/details/mblthennow/page/n7/mode/2up Internet Archive] has a scan, [[Media:Man boy love then and now by David Thorstad.pdf|as do we]].

==1985==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:PAN2.JPG|[[PAN]] Magazine and a selection of related reading material: From Spartacus International Gay Guide 1985.
File:PAN1.JPG|Continued.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Plummer - 1985 - Review on CP and Sex Rings.pdf|Plummer. (1985). Review of Child Pornography and Sex Rings]] - Ed. by Ann Wolbert Burgess and Marieanne L. Clark (Lexington, Massachusetts: Lexington Books, D. C. Heath. 1984).

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''News article (from 2013, concerning this time period):''' ''[https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.html Pedophile Links Haunt Green Party]'' - About German "pedophilia" political controversies.
*'''Book of interest''': [http://library.lol/main/599CD8D53EF0AFA4DE7A9F7B102C68A2 A Witchhunt Foiled: The FBI vs. NAMBLA] - Full Book scan download on Libgen.

==1986==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Spartacus1d.jpg|[[Spartacus International Gay Guide|Spartacus]] magazine controversy.
File:Spartacus1.JPG|[[Spartacus International Gay Guide|Spartacus]] magazine controversy (further coverage).
File:NAMBLAMurder1985.png|Murder of a NAMBLA Member by a drifter. NAMBLA Bulletin Sept.
File:Harry Hay NAMBLA Walks With Me.JPG|<small>[[Harry Hay]] marching at the 1986 Los Angeles gay pride parade wearing a cloth sign reading "NAMBLA Walks With Me", before the pride organizers and cops forced him to remove his message before joining the parade.</small>
File:CSWInvalidation.png|Harry Hay (and Scott O'Hara) respond admirably to their exclusion/[[Validity Policing|invalidation]] by mainstream gays. NAMBLA Bulletin Sept.
File:AndrietteNamblaBull.png|[[Bill Andriette]] reports on another [[ILGA]] conference for [[NAMBLA]].
</gallery>

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest''': [[Edward Brongersma]]. ''Loving Boys'' (in two volumes). Find at Brongersma.info ([https://brongersma.info/Loving_boys_I 1], [https://brongersma.info/Loving_boys_II 2]) and Libgen ([http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=A6DBB21D0BAB95293179BDEE2E929E52 1], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=40C57B7A2D794BB601C4A433AD9BA61C 2]).
*<span style="background:orange">[https://library.lol/main/D3E65600BCD53F898EE99AEBF6BCBC24 ''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People''] - ed. by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London).</span> - We have a [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)|dedicated page]] for the book and many of its authors, such as [[Peter Tatchell]].
*'''News article (from 2013, concerning this time period):''' ''[https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/past-pedophile-links-haunt-german-green-party-a-899544.html Pedophile Links Haunt Green Party]'' - About German "pedophilia" political controversies.
*'''Book of interest''': Dr. [[Preben Hertoft]]. (1986, 1993 Translation). ''Crime without victims.'' Find at [https://www.ipce.info/library/miscellaneous/crime-without-victims-book-about-paedo Ipce], [https://www.brongersma.info/images/Crime_without_victims_a_book_about_paedophilia.pdf BronWiki] and [http://www.just-well.dk/CrimeWithoutVictims/crime_without_victims.html Just-Well.dk] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.

==1987==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:1987 Gay Journal Nr. 1 S. 14 B.JPG|Tax Men pounce on [[Spartacus International Gay Guide|Spartacus]] (Capital Gay).
</gallery>

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://web.archive.org/web/20130420132340/http://snifferdogonline.com/reports/Child%20Abuse,%20Sexuality%20and%20Violence/Boys%20On%20Their%20Contacts%20With%20Men.pdf BOYS ON THEIR CONTACTS WITH MEN: A STUDY OF SEXUALLY EXPRESSED FRIENDSHIPS] - Landmark study by [[Theo Sandfort]]. Also on [https://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/index.htm Ipce].
*[https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/dutch_movement_text.htm The Dutch Paedophile Emancipation Movement] - By [[Frits Bernard]]. From Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia, volume 1 number 2 (Autumn 1987), p. 35-45.
*[https://archive.org/details/real-child-love-wolfi-landstreicher/mode/2up Child Molestation vs. Child Love], and essay by [[Wolfi Landstreicher]] (Anarchist figure aka Feral Faun). Also available with "critical annotations" at [https://archive.org/details/8Page/mode/2up Web Archive] and [https://heresydistro.noblogs.org/post/2019/06/04/child-molestation-vs-child-love-by-wolfi-landstreicher-critically-annotated/ Heresy].
*Video: [https://fstube.net/w/rWf3LnNNJdGEpR9wVBXsPf The Cook Report, 1987. Cook confronts "child-pornographers"].

==1988==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:UPIUNICEF.png|UNICEF office used for "child sex ring" ([[CRIES]] [https://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.com/category/cries-unicef-belgium/ affair]).
</gallery>

==PDFs and Texts==

*[[Media:A pueblo homosexuality David Thorstad 1988.pdf|A pueblo homosexuality]], by [[David Thorstad]]. The gay activist immerses himself in a rural Mexican culture where homosexuality is part of everyday life for boys.

==1989==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Bearchell.jpg|Pedophilia: Views from the other side, by [[Chris Bearchell]] in ''Anarchy''.
File:HarryHay.jpg.jpg|[[Harry Hay]] circa 1989.
File:Kanalratten Manifesto.png|Kanalratten Manifesto on "female pedophilia".
File:Pedowrk89.png|[[ILGA]]'s ''Pedophile Workshop'' minutes from 1989
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Anarchy 1989 Special Edition.pdf|Anarchy: A Journal of Desire Armed (special edition)]] - Anarchist Activism

==1990==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Tate.png|From Tate: ''Child Pornography: An Investigation'', featured below.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Siwa today by David Thorstad.pdf|Siwa today]] - Cultural report from Egypt, by [[David Thorstad]].
*[[Media:Paidika6 4-12.pdf|Interview]] with [[Kenneth Plummer]], in [[Paidika]]: The Journal of Paedophilia, volume 2: Number 2 (Issue 6), pp. 2-10.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest''': [https://library.lol/main/3CA15750CD7EC06C3052B55B5E16C76D Pedophilia: Biosocial Dimensions] (Jay R. Feierman, ed.). New York: Springer-Verlag Publishers.
*'''Book of interest''': [[Theo Sandfort|Sandfort, T.]], et al. (1990). ''Male Intergenerational Intimacy.'' Find at [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=5DBDFA0F8D13D9DCD84B8DE544CD0AE4 libgen], [https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/books.htm#Male Ipce] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
*'''Book of interest''': [[Donald_West|Donald J. West]], [[Chin-Keung_Li|C.K. Li]], and T.P. Woodhouse, [http://library.lol/main/441D7CF38849721C7613D41D60D6D50A ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''] (London: Duckworth, 1990; Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books, 1993).
*'''Book of interest''': Tate, T. (1990). ''[https://annas-archive.org/md5/ae2458610e56a04ff4a0bdc4798b6731 Child Pornography: An Investigation].'' Of particular interest due to the chapter on [[Paedophile Information Exchange]], called up [https://ianpace.wordpress.com/2014/08/04/tim-tate-chapter-on-paedophiles-from-book-child-pornography-an-investigation/ here].
*'''VIDEO: '''[https://fstube.net/w/47anyhVz3GsfAi8yb3GXzW Phil Donahue episode] - featuring [[Clarence Tripp]] and [[Judith Reisman]], re. [[Alfred Kinsey]]'s baby orgasm data.

==1991==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Moody Bunking Off Is Not a Crime.jpg|[[Roger Moody]]: Bunking Off Is Not a Crime.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Man Boy Love and the American Gay Movement by David Thorstad.pdf|Man/Boy Love and the American Gay Movement]] - Gay and MAP Activism, by [[David Thorstad]].
*[[Media:(1991) Bullough Plummer Book Reviews.pdf|Review]] of [[Edward Brongersma|Brongersma]], [[Loving Boys]]: A Multidiciplinary Study of Sexual Relations Between Adults and Minor Males (Volume 1, 1986). in Journal of Homosexuality, Volume 20, Issue 1-2, pp. 320-323. Vern Bullough reviews Paidika and Theo Sandfort's research.
*[[Media:(1991) Plummer - Understanding Childhood Sexualities.pdf| Plummer, Ken. (1991). Understanding Childhood Sexualities.]] - In [[Male Intergenerational Intimacy]]: Historical, Socio-Psychological, and Legal Perspectives, ed. by [[Theo Sandfort]], [[Edward Brongersma]], Alex van Naerssen (New York: Routledge), pp. 231-249.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1696 Gay Byrne introduces Rap against Rape (Irish Late Show, 1991)]
*[https://sci-hub.se/10.1300/j082v20n01_13 Schuijer, J. (1991). ''Tolerance at Arm’s Length.'' Journal of Homosexuality, 20(1-2), 199–229.] Web Archive [https://web.archive.org/web/20220904203058/https://sci-hub.se/10.1300/j082v20n01_13 also have a copy].

==1992==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Lanning2.png|The Lanning Report - examples of absurd language used by the [[CSA]] Industry.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Intergenerational Intimacy by Andrew Nilsen.pdf|Intergenerational Intimacy]] - About the adaptive potential of intergenerational relationships, by Andrew Nilsen.
*[[Media:Sandfort - 1992 - Argument for Adult-Child Sex scan.pdf|The Argument for Adult-Child Sexual Contact: A Critical Appraisal and New Data.]] By [[Theo Sandfort]].
*[[Media:Andriette Intergenerational Sex Consent Isn’t the Problem.pdf|Bill Andriette, 'Intergenerational Sex: Consent Isn't the Problem', in ''Empathy'', Vol. 3, No. 1 (1992)]].

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest:''' [https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/kilpatrick_1992.pdf Long-Range Effects of Child and Adolescent Sexual Experiences]: Myths, Mores, and Menaces. By [[Allie C. Kilpatrick]]. Full PDF on Ipce.
*[[Media:Off Our Backs - 1992 - Anti-NAMBLA Activism.pdf|Off Our Backs - 1992]] - Early example of Radical (conservative) Feminist anti-[[NAMBLA]] Activism.

==1993==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:LGFM_-_Fuck_the_Age_of_Consent!_(Lesbian_&_Gay_Freedom_Movement,_Winter_1993).pdf|Fuck the Age of Consent!]] - In ''Lesbian & Gay Freedom Movement'', Winter 1993.
*[https://library.lol/main/8C366E4250E2153407667C01C18B7301 Homoaffectionalism: Male Bonding from Gilgamesh to the Present], by [[Paul D. Hardman]] (San Francisco: GLB / Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual Publishers) - Notable for its discussion of pederasty.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*Video: [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10g4 Larry King Live - NAMBLA's history in ILGA]
*'''Book of interest''': Felicity Goodyear-Smith. ''First do no harm: the sexual abuse industry.'' Find at [https://annas-archive.org/md5/8fd1ece212216cc0de47148f4c044e90 Anna's Archive] or [https://archive.org/details/firstdonoharmsex0000good Archive.org] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. [https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/01jun04a_rind_about.htm Reviewed] by [[Bruce Rind]].
*'''Book of Interest''': Joel Best. ''[https://archive.org/details/threatenedchildr0000best/mode/2up Threatened children: rhetoric and concern about child-victims]''. Reviews ([https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/0190-7409(92)90048-z], [https://sci-hub.ru/10.2307/1387024]) available at Sci-Hub.

==1994==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:Child sex phone line not illegal, police say 1994-08-11.png|Answering machine message of the Canada-based <q>Boys and Men’s Sex Rights Group</q> draws ire and prompts investigation by police who suspect the organization is affiliated with [[NAMBLA]].
File:Man-boy sex hotline outrages vice cops 1994-08-12.png|[[:File:Critics_rap_sex_animal_1994-08-12.png|Pagecanada censors]] the <q>Boys and Men’s Sex Rights Group</q> hotline after public outrage and negative press. Its founder, Gary Rhindress, makes plans to move the hotline from Toronto to Winnipeg.
File:Tom Reeves - The Advocate - 23 Aug 1994 - 03.jpg|''The Advocate'' Gay Mag - when [[NAMBLA]] were facing pressure from within the gay movement.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[https://www.newgon.net/prd/hist/ILGAexp/index.html PRD on ILGA Controversy] - Collection of documents on the expulsion of minor-attracted groups from the gay umbrella.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*Video: [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10fh NAMBLA Presentation]
*<span style="background:orange">Video: [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgii60 Chicken Hawk - Men Who Love Boys (1994)] - Part 1 of 4 of a Documentary on NAMBLA.</span>
*'''Book of interest:''' Rüdiger Lautmann (1994) Die Lust am Kind. Portrait des Pädophilen. Hamburg: Ingrid Klein Verlag GmbH. 1994. ISBN 3-89521-015-3 [https://web.archive.org/web/20190731054559/http://www.shfri.net/trans/lautmann/lautmann.htm English translation ("Attraction to children") at WebArchive], [https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=9D30E890BB6E7EBF7A9E235DFED54A3F English translation at Libgen], [[Media:Lautmann attraction to children.pdf|Newgon]] [https://libgen.st/search.php?req=Die+Lust+am+Kind&open=0&res=25&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def Original at Libgen]
*'''Book of interest:''' [[Patrick Califia|Pat Califia]] (1994) [http://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/art_ess_c.htm '''Public sex: The Culture of Radical Sex'''] (there is also a 2000 [https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=AF87C73FBC6BEB5609991E964EF688EB 2nd edition] with discrepant content)
*'''Book of interest:''' [[Wikipedia:Robyn Dawes|Robyn Dawes]] (1994). '''House of Cards: Psychology and Psychotherapy Built on Myth.''' This book contains material on false psychologist expertise in different aspects of the CSA construction: witnessing in the court room, assessment of the occurrence and severity, recovered memory industry an others. Find copy [https://libgen.is/search.php?req=House+of+Cards++Robyn+Dawes&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def at Libgen], [https://archive.org/details/houseofcardspsyc00dawerich/page/n5/mode/2up at Archive.org]

==1995==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:(1995) Faust - Child Sexuality and AOC - The Netherlands Model.pdf|Faust, B. (1995) "Child sexuality and age of consent laws:]] The Netherlands model." Australasian Gay and Lesbian Law Journal, 5, pp. 78-85.
*[[Media:Homosexuality and the American Left by David Thorstad.pdf|Homosexuality and the American Left]] - Gay and MAP Activism, by [[David Thorstad]].
*[[Media:(1995) Faust - Child Sexuality and AOC - The Netherlands Model.pdf|Faust, B. (1995) "Child sexuality and age of consent laws: The Netherlands model." Australasian Gay and Lesbian Law Journal, 5, pp. 78-85.]] Feminist author [[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust]] usefully summarizes the Netherlands model for a sex-positive, early sex education approach combined with age of consent reform which created an effective legal age of 12 for sex at the time. Important text for the history of [[Feminism]] and MAP-AAM / youth rights.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest''': [[Debbie Nathan|Nathan, D.]]; Snedeker, M. (1995). ''Satan's Silence: Ritual Abuse and the Making of a Modern American Witch Hunt.'' Basic Books. ISBN 978-0-87975-809-7. Find at [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=D728C9DF8C78407A0AA1DA9195991CD8 libgen], [https://archive.org/details/satanssilencerit00nath/page/n9/mode/2up Web Archive (account required)] through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.

==1997==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:FRD4PebXIAIxuuQ.jpg|Letter from [[Peter Tatchell]].
File:Brand.jpg|[[Chris Brand]] during his 1996/97 controversies.
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Text of the Boylove Manifesto]] - by jay_h.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://www.newgon.net/CPP/Arlekin/index2.htm Arlekin/David Website (of a 14 year old boy)]: "Stop protecting me".
*'''Book of interest''': [[Frits Bernard]] (1997). ''[[Pedophilia Unbound|Pedophilia Unbound: Theory, Research, Practice.]]'' Find at [[Media:Fritsbernard pedunbook.pdf|Newgon]], [https://web.archive.org/web/20111019200250/http://www.shfri.net/trans/bernard/pedunbook.pdf Archive.org (2)], [https://www.pdfdrive.com/pedophilia-unbound-e53911842.html pdfdrive], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. Of relevance to history, as the scholar was elderly at this point and had experience of the early movement.
*'''Book of interest''': Wolf Vogel (1997). ''Secret Love: Eros Between Boys and Men.'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/VogelWolfSecretLove/ Archive.org], [https://uryourstory.org/index.php/classics/208-secret-love-eros-between-boys-and-men uryourstory.org] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. Reports, letters, and interviews about boy/man relationships.
* [https://www.brongersma.info/images/Anthology_01.pdf Kids Club Anthology #1] - This anthology [Published March 2021] collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, adult/youth relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people from the late 70s to the mid-90s.
* [https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove''] - The same as above, but from the female and [[Feminism|pro-sex feminist]] perspective.

==1998==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Text of Heather Peterson: Origins of "Minor Attracted Adult"]] - Retrospective account of great importance to [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]].
*[[Text of Pederasty and Homosexuality|Pederasty and Homosexuality]] - Political analysis by [[David Thorstad]].

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
File:KincaidEroticInnocence.png|[[Erotic Innocence]] - [[James Kincaid]]'s 1998 book.
File:Rind1.png|[[Rind et al]] is published - a study that had far-reaching effects on academia and activism (the graphic is a present-day treatment)
File:PTPrejoinsILGA21Jan1998.png|Pink Triangle Press rejoins [[ILGA]] - with details of ILGA demands in 1995 (Jan 1998 ILGA Bulletin)
</gallery>

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/rbt_files.htm Ipce.info - The Rind Files] - Documenting the controversy as it unfolded over the proceeding years.
*'''Book of interest''': [[David Sonenschein]] (1998). ''[[Pedophiles on Parade]]'' Find at [https://libgen.is/search.php?req=pedophiles+on+parade&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=1&column=def Libgen], or on Yesmap ([https://office.yesmap.net/s/2Rq7YgniYiz6QjW Vol 1], [https://office.yesmap.net/s/wNSgLj9L6potJs7 Vol 2]).
*'''Book of interest:''' [[James Kincaid|James Russell Kincaid]]. ''Erotic innocence: the culture of child molesting''. Find at [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=3FC2825F3DCE1EC49CC4594E698A746C Libgen] and [https://www.pdfdrive.com/erotic-innocence-the-culture-of-child-molesting-e188876766.html PDFDrive], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
*'''Book of interest:''' [https://en.ua1lib.org/book/13428246/825aac Moral Panic: Changing Concepts of the Child Molester in Modern America] [https://www.ipce.info/imo-archive/books/jenkins.htm (on Ipce)] [https://ebin.pub/moral-panic-changing-concepts-of-the-child-molester-in-modern-america-9780300109634-9780300148534-0300148534.html (on Ebin)][https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=AF4CFCC53779EC94D7F746B6266B7C02 (on Libgen)] - 1998 treatment by historian, [[Philip Jenkins]].

==1999==

===Texts and PDFs===

*[[Text of Rind resolution (Alaska)]] - Condemnation of [[Rind et al]] study.
*[[Text of Rind resolution]] - Condemnation of [[Rind et al]] study.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://sci-hub.se/10.1300/J082v37n02_01 Mirkin, H. (1999). ''The Pattern of Sexual Politics.'' Journal of Homosexuality, 37(2), 1–24.] Ipce also [https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/mirkin_text.htm have a copy].
*Rev. Hans Visser and Rev. [[Donald Mader]], [http://library.lol/main/509ABC83651D70A3FE3951E8F3C09F0F ''Misunderstood intimacy: A pastoral approach to pedophilia''] (Rotterdam: Stichting voor Kerkelijk Sociale Arbeid, 1999).

==2000==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

<gallery>
Ehmanconsent.png|Robert Ehman on the failed circular "consent" argument
Ehmanconsentbinary.png|Robert Ehman on the real reasons for consent vs no consent binarism
</gallery>

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia, by Robert Ehman]] - Philosophy paper.
*[[Media:Tea Abuse by Angry Harry.pdf|Tea Abuse]] - Men's Rights Movement essay on CSA/Sexual Abuse [https://web.archive.org/web/20020330070946/http://angryharry.com/reTeaAbuse.htm Original and archives].

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest:''' Christina Hoff Sommers, ''The War Against Boys: How Misguided Feminism Is Harming Our Young Men.'' Find at [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=EC8675B4E54535B782CE166252473422 libgen (inc. 2013 update)] and the original at [https://archive.org/details/Christina_Hoff_Sommers_The_War_Against_Boys Web Archive], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
*[https://www.newgon.net/CPP/Stefan/ Stefan's Website (of a 12 year old boy)].
*[https://www.newgon.net/CPP/Spike/ Spike's Website] - Loved boy.
*[https://www.brongersma.info/images/2000_Riegel_Understanding.pdf Understanding Loved Boys and Boylovers] [https://web.archive.org/web/20210122201746/https://www.brongersma.info/images/2000_Riegel_Understanding.pdf (Archive)] by David Riegel
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20170705130128/http://www.shfri.net/shfp/wwna.pdf We were NOT abused!] David Riegel, 2000 - a book on "abuse" myth and harm produced by reaction of society.

==2001==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:Ncacmoral.png|NCAC (March, 2001). "[https://ncac.org/resource/identifying-what-is-harmful-or-inappropriate-for-minors White Paper Submitted to the Committee on Tools and Strategies for Protecting Kids From Pornography and Their Applicability to Other Inappropriate Internet Content.]
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===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://ccoso.org/sites/default/files/import/PerverseLawofChildPornography.pdf THE PERVERSE LAW OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20130425190250/http://snifferdogonline.com/reports/Child%20Abuse,%20Sexuality%20and%20Violence/The%20Perverse%20Law%20of%20Child%20Pornography.pdf copy])- Long article by Amy Adler... ''"In our present culture of child abuse, is child pornography law the solution or the problem? My answer is that it is both. This reading pictures law and culture as unwitting partners. Both keep the sexualized child before us. Children and sex become inextricably linked, all while we proclaim the child’s innocence. The sexuality prohibited becomes the sexuality produced."''
*Video: [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10Jm ''Brass Eye'' Special] - One-off topical news satire by Christopher Morris, in which the media response to pedophilia is ridiculed (UK).
*'''Book of interest:''' [[Philip Jenkins]]. ''Beyond Tolerance: Child Pornography on the Internet''. Find at [https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=DD522B76AC6BBF556E81825ECE6DB37A Libgen] and [https://annas-archive.org/md5/dd522b76ac6bbf556e81825ece6db37a further options via Anna's Archive], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.

==2002==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:Levinereview1.png|Liz Highleyman's review of [[Judith Levine]]'s [[Harmful to Minors]].
File:Levinereview2.png|Continued.
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===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Text of A Consolidation of Brainstorming Ideas]] - Proposed ideas for activism from an online community.
*[[Media:Roger Moody - 2002 - Importance of Peyrefitte.pdf|Importance of being Peyrefitte]] - By [[Roger Moody]], who was formerly involved in [[PAN]].

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest:''' Judith Levine, Joycelyn M. Elders. ''[[Harmful to Minors|Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex]]''. Find at [https://www.ipce.info/imo-archive/books/levine.htm Ipce] and [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=A6C7669F4ECA420E6CCD3AF15284C24F libgen], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.

==2004==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:True Innocence Magazine 1.pdf|True Innocence Magazine 1]] - Pedophile-interest online magazine with news and features. No OCR. Date may be approximated from content.
*[[Media:True Innocence Magazine 2.pdf|True Innocence Magazine 2]] - Pedophile-interest online magazine with news and features. No OCR. Date may be approximated from content.
*[[Media:True Innocence Magazine 3.pdf|True Innocence Magazine 3]] - Pedophile-interest online magazine with news and features. No OCR. Date may be approximated from content.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://sci-hub.ru/10.1215/10642684-10-2-141 FEMINISM, CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE, AND THE ERASURE OF CHILD SEXUALITY] ([[Steven Angelides]], 2004)
*[https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/j.chc.2004.02.001 Children and adolescents as sexual beings: cross-cultural perspectives], a journal paper by Jose ́ A. Nieto, PhD.
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20181203044350/http://www.shfri.net/shfp/beyond/beyond8x11.pdf Beyond Hysteria: Boy Erotica on the Internet] David Riegel, 2004 - a book on effects of boy erotica in pedosexual men and men involved in the production of erotica as boys

==2005==

This was the year [[Special Article: List of Pedologues summaries|Pedologues]] (a podcast) began. It ran for 30 episodes, up until 2006.

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:Lickable.jpg|Hoax advert for Breyers Creamsicle.
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===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://www.newgon.net/CPP/Aaron/ Aarons's Website (of boy)]. Associated with [https://web.archive.org/web/20051119001549/http://aaronhouse.blogspot.com/ this] blog.
*'''Book of interest:''' Matthew Waites. ''The Age of Consent: Young People, Sexuality and Citizenship'' (2005). Find at [https://archive.org/details/waites-aoc Internet Archive] and [https://annas-archive.org/md5/dbfb9d50125c52d17561f34f4c295fb7 annas-archive], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
*'''News article:''' Onell R. Soto. [https://web.archive.org/web/20120122195629/http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_1n18manboy.html ''FBI targets pedophilia advocates'']. Concerning [[NAMBLA]] sex-tourism stings, etc.
*[http://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/angelides_frame.htm The Emergence of the Paedophile in the Late Twentieth Century] ([[Steven Angelides]], 2005)
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20220428114843/Newgon.net/wiki/Text_of_the_Childlove_Manifesto Childlove Manifesto] - This was one attempt at writing a manifesto for MAPs, which gained little recognition or traction at the time.
*[https://www.brongersma.info/images/2005_Riegel_Could.pdf Could they ALL have been WRONG?] David Riegel, 2005 - a scientific excerpt collection on pederasty. [https://web.archive.org/web/20220310083857/https://www.brongersma.info/images/2005_Riegel_Could.pdf Web Archive].

==2006==

2006 was the year [[AttractedToChildren.org]]'s predecessor was set up - an accuracy-focused blogging website that set the tone for the MAP Movement and its evolution over the coming years.

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:Ok94.jpg|OK [[List of MAP-related magazines|Magazine]] ([[Vereniging MARTIJN]]) stops publishing, with its last edition (Jun 2006). The Association had published magazines since the 80s.
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===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Rookiee's Talk Page (Wikipedia)]] - The beginnings of [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]] activism (contributions still visible on Wikipedia).
*[[:File:Peter Schult - Pedophilia in Public Discourse.pdf|Pedophilia in Public Discourse]] - by [[Peter Schult]]. We link the file page, as the volume is broken down into individual files (linked from said page).

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''News article''': Benoit Denizet-Lewis. ''[https://www.bostonmagazine.com/2006/05/15/boy-crazy/ Boy Crazy]''. About [[NAMBLA]]'s situation. [https://www.brongersma.info/Boy_crazy BronWiki] have excerpts, and web archive will have copies.
*'''News article''': [[Kurt Eichenwald]]. ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20220711180523/https://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/21/technology/21pedo.html On the Web, Pedophiles Extend Their Reach]''.

==2007==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Jim Burton userpage (Wikipedia)]] - Another foundational [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]] activist (contributions still visible on Wikipedia).
*[[Child Pornography (Wikipedia)]] - Saved Wikipedia article.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[[:File:Amaros.zip|Amaros.info]] - the former [[Puellula]] archive in zip form - text only. Believed to have been shut down around 2007 (or at least that is when site-building activity ceased).

==2008==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Guide to Computer Security (Archive)]] - Was compiled by us for people who are concerned with on-and off-line data protection, and encryption.
*[[Newgon Promotional Material (Archive)]] - Contains galleries of old promotional material.

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://web.archive.org/web/20081216015925/http://www.critest.com/ Critical Estoppel] and [http://therealosc.blogspot.com/ The later OSC] - The late [[Nigel Leigh Oldfield]]'s old sites, many copies on WA. Home of the relentless and obsessive king of internet sealioning, who should be subject of a personal article some day.'''
*[https://archive.org/details/NAMBLA/mode/2up?view=theater Declassified FBI Documents] - A large file of documents concerning NAMBLA.

==2009==

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Newgon.com:Outgoing Administrators' Statement, 24 January, 2009]]
*[[Uncommon Sense Edition 1]] - Webmagazine of [[Newgon]], featuring news analysis and activism. Contains a PDF version.
*[[Uncommon Sense Edition 2]]
*[[Uncommon Sense Edition 3]]
*[[Uncommon Sense Edition 4]]
*[[Media:Pedophilia myths and facts.pdf|Pedophilia: Myths and Facts]] - Pamphlet. Example of Newgon's early promotional material. A [[Media:Myths and facts about pedophilia.pdf|shortened version]] was also produced.
*[[Proposed Girl Chat Security Post]] - Details some of the online security concerns of the day.

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*[https://sci-hub.ru/10.1007/s10508-008-9465-3 Malón, A. (2009). Onanism and Child Sexual Abuse: A Comparative Study of Two Hypotheses.] [[Archives of Sexual Behavior]], 39(3), 637–652. Also available at [https://www.ipce.info/library_3/files/onanism_and_csa_frame.htm Ipce].

==2010==

===Gallery and Excerpts===

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File:Foucaultframing.png|A [[Newgon]] reviewer comments on [[Michel Foucault]]'s [[The History of Sexuality]] (see [[Wikipedia:The History of Sexuality|Wikipedia]]).
File:Melsh.jpg|[[Michael Melsheimer]] of [[B4U-ACT]] in a filming some time towards the end of his life.
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===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Tony Duvert - Diary of an Innocent Translator's Introduction.pdf|Bruce Benderson. (2010). "Innocence on Trial: The Politics of Tony Duvert." Diary of an Innocent. By Tony Duvert. Trans. Bruce Benderson. Los Angeles: Semiotext(e), pp. 5-13]] - [[Tony Duvert]] is covered in NewgonWiki.
*[[Media:Mader - 2010 - Objectifying Consent.pdf|Donald Mader, "The Individual Can . . ." Objectifying Consent', in Boyhood Studies, Vol. 4, No. 2 (2010), 103-112]]
*[[Uncommon Sense Edition 5]] - Webmagazine of [[Newgon]], featuring news analysis and activism.

===External Archives and Web Pages===

*'''Book of interest''': [[Sarah Goode]] (2010). ''Understanding and Addressing Adult Sexual Attraction to Children.'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/goode-attraction Archive.org], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=A52E91C0D717A20034259032CBD90357 libgen] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. Goode is an early [[Preventionism|preventionist]] and anti-[[Research: The Dangers of Stigma|stigma]] writer.
*'''Book of interest''': Susan A.Clancy (2010). ''[[The Trauma Myth]]: The Truth About the Sexual Abuse of Children--and Its Aftermath''. Find at [http://libgen.st/search.php?req=the+trauma+myth+clancy&open=0&res=25&view=simple&phrase=1&column=def Libgen], or [https://archive.org/details/traumamythtrutha0000clan Archive.org]
*['''A talk''' by] [[Bruce_Rind|Rind, B.]] (2010). [https://sci-hub.se/10.3149/thy.0402.113 Social Response to Age-Gap Sex Involving Minors: Empirical, Historical, Cross-Cultural, and Cross-Species Considerations.] Boyhood Studies, 4(2). Also at [https://www.ipce.info/library/journal-article/social-response-age-gap Ipce] and [https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/sociual_response_to_age-gap_sex_involving_minors.pdf Ipce PDF].
*'''Book of interest''': Sally V Hunter (2010). ''Childhood Sexual Experiences: Narratives of Resilience.'' Find at [https://annas-archive.org/md5/b73061b6f9ca9cd2d78d0d1034199d36 Ana's Archive], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.

==2011 and later==

While the years 2011 and later fall outside the scope of this project, we may link out to examples of material published beyond this date, particularly if it is historically relevant for researchers, or related to activism. We may also preserve examples of material we have reason to believe is rare (such that it might be at risk of completely eluding future archivists) and of considerable importance. Some items published after 2011 have been situated at an earlier point in this archive - generally a year, or period to which they are highly relevant.

===PDFs and Texts===

*[[Media:Alice Lovers Magazine 1.pdf|Alice Lovers Magazine No. 1]] - GL/Pedophile interest Magazine with features. '''(2011)'''
*[[Media:Alice Lovers Magazine 2.pdf|Alice Lovers Magazine No. 2]] - GL/Pedophile interest Magazine with features. '''(2013)'''
*[[Media:Alice Lovers Magazine 3.pdf|Alice Lovers Magazine No. 3]] - GL/Pedophile interest Magazine with features. '''(2015)'''
*[[Media:Alice Lovers Magazine 4.pdf|Alice Lovers Magazine No. 4]] - GL/Pedophile interest Magazine with features. '''(Probable date - 2016)'''
*[[Media:Alice Lovers Magazine 5.pdf|Alice Lovers Magazine No. 5]] - GL/Pedophile interest Magazine with features. '''(2021)'''
*[[Media:Pedopunk.pdf|Pedopunk]] - [https://fwucky.art/ Zine] posted on and censored from fwucky.neocities.org, also banned from [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. '''(2022)'''

===Videos, External Archives and Web Pages===
*'''Book of interest''': [[Karl_Andersson|Andersson, Karl]] (2011), ''Gay Man's Worst Friend - the Story of Destroyer Magazine''. [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=8C5B1DFFA11B2D001050D2F44FE5214B At Libgen], and [https://www.pdfdrive.com/gay-mans-worst-friend-the-story-of-destroyer-magazine-e157075696.html at PDFdrive]
*[[Text of Looking Back on My Collaboration with Tom Reeves|Looking Back on My Collaboration with Tom Reeves]] - By [[David Thorstad]], 2012.
*[[Text of Harry Hay’s Support for Man/Boy Love|Harry Hay’s Support for Man/Boy Love]] - By [[David Thorstad]], 2012.
*'''News article''': Jon Henley (2013). ''[https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light Paedophilia: bringing dark desires to light]'' ([https://www.ipce.info/library/newspaper-article/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-to-light archive])
*'''Book of interest''': [[Thomas Hubbard]] and Beert Verstraete (2013). ''[[Censoring Sex Research]]: The Debate Over Male Intergenerational Relationships.'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/thomas-k-hubbard-beert-verstraete-censoring-sex-research-the-debate-over-male-in Archive.org], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=20CD5808BA3977780E914855954E456F libgen] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. Collection of essays about the censorship of research on intergenerational relationships, spurred on by censorship of planned publication in the [[Journal of Homosexuality]] after its longstanding, free-speech loving editor [[John_P._De_Cecco|John De Cecco]] had retired his position. Contributions from [[Richard Yuill]], and [[Gert Hekma]] and [[Donald Mader]]. [https://greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Rind.Pederasty.an.Integration.pdf Rind's chapter] is considered one of his greatest accomplishments ([https://web.archive.org/web/20230402083934/https://greek-love.com/media/PDFs/Rind.Pederasty.an.Integration.pdf Web Archive backup]).
*'''Article:''' [[Lawrence A. Stanley]] (2013) [https://www.cardozoaelj.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Stanley_7.2.pdf The Child Pornography Myth], [http://web.archive.org/web/20220806002653/http://www.cardozoaelj.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Stanley_7.2.pdf (Web Archive)]
*'''Book of interest''': Emma Renold (2015). ''Children, Sexuality and Sexualization.'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Archive.org], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=14DB46B154A6B03B4C8AE84A7FB7399F libgen] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible.
:*A similar social constructivist volume was authored by [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=C28D168DD5818780F5FF47EF6543628E Liza Tsaliki].
*'''News article''': Mike Pearl (2016). ''[https://www.vice.com/en/article/7bd37e/whatever-happened-to-nambla Whatever Happened to NAMBLA?]''
*Essay: [[David Thorstad]] (2016). ''LGBT: A Dissection.'' Find at [https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/15/lgbt-a-dissection/ CounterPunch] and [https://web.archive.org/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=LGBT:_A_Dissection William Percy] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20160716140237/https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/07/15/lgbt-a-dissection/ Web Archive].
*'''Book of interest''': Terry Goldie (2016). ''"[https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=ADC5D746C880DDF53D153B64F85C227B The Man Who Invented Gender]: Engaging the Ideas of [[John Money]]."''
*'''Book of interest''': [[David Halperin]] (2017). ''The War on Sex.'' Find at [https://archive.org/details/halperin-waronsex Archive.org], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=00CA416EFF180FCB1376B6F3BA8F27B2 libgen] or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. Of relevance to history.
*'''Book of interest''': [[Steven Angelides]] (2019). ''The Fear of Child Sexuality.'' Find at [http://library.lol/main/5BD3DAFA6E480B8475B9DC7E877A2A8D Libgen], [https://annas-archive.org/md5/ed8f7d89f2cb17a364905a92e147b09d Anna's Archive], or through [[Help:Research Resources|Research Resources - Information Freedom Companions]] if inaccessible. [http://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1037 Percy Foundation review].
*'''Book of interest''': T. Rivas (2020; First printed edition: April 2013, now [https://brongersma.info/Positive_memories withdrawn] due to legal issues). ''[[Positive Memories (book)|Positive Memories: Cases of positive memories of erotic and platonic relationships and contacts of children with adults as seen from the perspective of the former minor]]''. Find at [https://www.uryourstory.org/index.php/social-criticism/188-positive-memories uryourstory], [http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=488F2467A4DF97784A9BFC3489EC4275 Libgen] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20210227120607/https://www.ipce.info/host/rivas/pdf/posmem_4b_text.pdf Web Archive].
*'''Journal issue of interest''': ''[https://www.berghahnjournals.com/view/journals/historical-reflections/46/1/historical-reflections.46.issue-1.xml Restoring Intergenerational Dynamics to Queer History]'', with an open-access introduction co-authored by [[Nicholas Syrett]], [[Rachel Hope Cleves]], and [[Averill Earls]] (in Historical Reflections, 2020). - Also contains the seminal article on [[Intergenerational Lesbianism]] by historian Amanda H. Littauer.
*Lisi Cori (2021): The Little Girl and the Naughty Man - Amateur [https://library.lol/main/DF72336D636B40DFFFD5EA98635AB4E2 English translation available via Libgen], and [[Media:English_Translated_Lisi_Cori_-_La_Petite_Fille_Sur_Gabriel_Matzneff_et_Le_Consentement_(2021).pdf|backed up on Newgon]]. A rare, privately printed response to Vanessa Springora's [https://library.lol/main/5A64D2C779E418734DC77B3581721BF2 ''Consent: A Memoir''], relating to scandal and debate around [[Gabriel Matzneff]].
*'''Book chapter of interest''': [[Bruce Rind]] (2023): ''Sacred Values, Politics, and Moral Panic: A Potent Mix Biasing the Science behind Child Sexual Abuse and Related Phenomena'', in Frisby et al. (Editors): ''[https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1D358EDAB831FFC5520B17AC1671B514 Ideological and Political Bias in Psychology]: Nature, Scope, and Solutions''. Also of note is [[Michael Bailey]]'s chapter.
*'''Book of interest''': [[Karl_Andersson|Andersson, Karl]] (2023). ''Impossibly Cute Boys: The Healing Power of Shota Comics in Japan'' - Available on Amazon.

==Date Undetermined==

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<noinclude>This template is for transcluding examples of hypocritical [[anti]]s throughout NewgonWiki. To view the pages it has been included with, see "[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:APSO|what links here]]".‎</noinclude><gallery>File:Carlbeech.png|Carl Beech - [[NSPCC]]/"[[Safeguarding]]" expert and celebrity accuser
File:Selfown.png|David Abbott (pedo-cop)
File:Anime2.png|Peter Newell (child advocate)
File:Anime.jpeg|Peter Bright (anti-gamergater)
File:Goldberg.png|Christopher Goldberg (anti-gamergater)<ref>[https://eu.poconorecord.com/story/news/crime/2017/06/28/tobyhanna-man-charged-in-child/20412780007/ Christopher Goldberg charges]</ref>
File:Battisson.png|Cameron Battisson (British vigilante)
File:Windso.png|Carl Windsor (another British vigilante)
File:Robinson.png|Carl Robinson (another British vigilante)
File:4039.png|Michael Terry (another British paedo hunter)<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200926011527/https://lincolnshirereporter.co.uk/2018/03/mum-finds-fellow-online-predator-guardian-who-stayed-in-family-home-is-convicted-sex-offender/ Lincs Reporter on Michael Terry]</ref>
File:Timheron.png|Tim Heron (yet another British vigilante)<ref>[https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/self-styled-paedophile-hunter-convicted-of-having-child-abuse-image-risk-to-public-court-hears/41743167.html IRONY: Self-styled paedophile hunter convicted of having child abuse image 'risk to public' court hears]</ref>
File:paultong.png|Paul Tong (British vigilante - surprise)<ref>[https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/17/paedophile-hunter-jailed-another-group-unmasked-child-sex-predator-12864925/ Paul Tong: Metro]</ref>
File:Marcel.png|Marcel Vervloesem (Belgian vigilante, subsequently found guilty,<ref>[https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Vervloesem FR Wikipedia: Marcel Vervloesem]</ref> see also Dutroux victims' Lawyer<ref>[https://www.france24.com/en/20080219-dutroux-victims-lawyer-charged-with-paedophilia-belgium-crime Dutroux's Lawyer charged (and subsequently convicted) of CP]</ref>)
File:UPIUNICEF.png|Jozef Verbeek (UNICEF)
File:Screenshot amer vig.png|Brian Carrigan (American Vigilante)<ref>[https://northpennnow.com/vigilante-from-montco-who-targeted-pedophiles-online-is-arrested-on-child-p-p6611-119.htm Teen Vigilante from Montco Who Targeted Pedophiles Online is Arrested on Child Porn Charges]</ref>
File:Todeschini.png|Dave Todeschini (Q-Anon)<ref>[https://twitter.com/BryanDawsonUSA/status/1610302729343074310 Bryan Dawson Twitter thread, video of Dave Todeschini of Q Anon]</ref>
File:Godlewski.png|Phil Godlewski (Q-Anon)
File:Beng.png|Ben Gibson (More Q-Anon)<ref>[https://www.rawstory.com/amp/gop-candidate-who-pushed-qanon-conspiracy-theory-gets-arrested-for-child-2649555901 Ben Gibson - Rawstory]</ref>
File:Pedogate.png|"Pedogate" Reddit Mod (Q-Anon/Pizzagate)<ref>[https://www.dailydot.com/debug/pedogate-subreddit-moderator-pedophile/ DailyDot: Pedogate]</ref>
File:Insider.png|Joshua Jennings - (Q-Anon)<ref>[https://www.insider.com/save-our-children-oklahoma-man-accused-killing-baby-qanon-2020-9 Insider: Joshua Jennings]</ref>
File:415.png|Sean McHugh - Anti-pedophile protestor, for sex with a 14 year old<ref>[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/04/politics/capitol-rioter-rape-charge/ Sean McHugh]</ref>
File:Bunag.jpg|Alden Bunag (Twitter SJW)<ref>[https://www.justice.gov/usao-hi/pr/former-oahu-schoolteacher-sentenced-175-years-prison-producing-child-pornography DoJ: Bunag sentence]</ref>
File:King.png|Stephen King - British "Child Sex Abuse Expert"
File:Strom.png|[[Wikipedia:Kevin Alfred Strom|Kevin Strom]] - US Neo Nazi<ref>[https://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/ToolBarTopics/Articles/Featured_Authors/strom,_kevin/kevin_strom_works/Kevin_Strom_2002-2004/Kevin_A._Strom_20030830_Milestones_for_Moguls.html Strom's anti-pedophile Jewish conspiracy essay]</ref>
<ref>File:Sutherland.png|[https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/10/library-vandalism-groomer-child-porn-charge/ WaPo: Charles Sutherland]</ref>
File:Joeldavis.png|Joel Davis - "Sexual Violence" TedX expert, [[UN]] Youth Ambassador<ref>[https://www.dailysabah.com/americas/2018/06/28/prominent-us-anti-sexual-violence-activist-arrested-for-child-abuse Daily Sabah - Joel Davis]</ref>
File:Dolte.png|Michael Dolce - <small>"Protect Children" child sex abuse attorney, award-winning "sexual violence" media figurehead.<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11931861/Florida-attorney-53-caught-thousands-child-pornography-images-computer.html Daily Mail: Arrest of Michael Dolce]</ref></small>
File:Mailore.png|Police officers are hugely over-represented among child porn users. See also, Ken Lanning's testimony<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/pRPSQ3A3y3jac3hqkAMSTZ From 12.30 mins]</ref>
File:Kovacs.png|Kevin A. Kovacs - D.A.R.E. Child Safety Instructor
File:Screenshot 20230417-215000 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Frank J. Collins (accusation against law-enforcement backed sex abuse clown). In 1986.<ref>[https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/03/28/Windy-the-Clown-charged-in-sex-case/2639512370000/ Frank Collins UPI]</ref>
File:Neilcohen.png|Neil Cohen: US Dem Lawmaker<ref>[https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/fmr-assemblyman-gets-5-years-custody-for-child-porn/ CBS News: Example of Cohen's publicity]</ref>
File:Jarvis.png|Christopher Jarvis, [[Safeguarding]] police expert<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054674/Roman-Catholic-churchs-paedophile-investigator-jailed-possessing-thousnds-child-porn-images.html Roman Catholic church's paedophile investigator jailed for possessing thousands of child porn images]</ref>
File:Reedc.png|Cody Dallas Reed - "Kill Pedophiles" Corrections Officer<ref>[https://themessenger.com/news/corrections-officer-who-called-for-killing-pedophiles-arrested-on-child-porn-charges Corrections Officer Who Called for Killing Pedophiles Arrested on Child Porn Charges]</ref>
File:AlaskaAIsus.png|Anthaney O’Connor - Reported someone for AI pic.<ref>[https://gizmodo.com/alaska-man-reported-someone-for-ai-csam-then-got-arrested-for-the-same-thing-2000543461 Anthaney O'Connor]</ref>
File:RogersPredHunter.png|Brandon San-Miguel - Predator Hunter.<ref>[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-claiming-to-be-predator-hunter-arrested-on-child-porn-charges-in-rogers/ar-BB1pHuYl Brandon San-Miguel]</ref>
File:Collagememe.png|Collaged examples <small>For a larger collage see [[Media:Hypocrites.jpg|here]].</small>
</gallery>

Some examples have not been documented above.<ref>[https://www.ktt2.com/antipedophile-councilman-arrested-for-grape-of-child-under-the-age-32575118 Riley Carter]</ref>

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<noinclude>This template is for transcluding examples of hypocritical [[anti]]s throughout NewgonWiki. To view the pages it has been included with, see "[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:APSO|what links here]]".‎</noinclude><gallery>File:Carlbeech.png|Carl Beech - [[NSPCC]]/"[[Safeguarding]]" expert and celebrity accuser
File:Selfown.png|David Abbott (pedo-cop)
File:Anime2.png|Peter Newell (child advocate)
File:Anime.jpeg|Peter Bright (anti-gamergater)
File:Goldberg.png|Christopher Goldberg (anti-gamergater)<ref>[https://eu.poconorecord.com/story/news/crime/2017/06/28/tobyhanna-man-charged-in-child/20412780007/ Christopher Goldberg charges]</ref>
File:Battisson.png|Cameron Battisson (British vigilante)
File:Windso.png|Carl Windsor (another British vigilante)
File:Robinson.png|Carl Robinson (another British vigilante)
File:4039.png|Michael Terry (another British paedo hunter)<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200926011527/https://lincolnshirereporter.co.uk/2018/03/mum-finds-fellow-online-predator-guardian-who-stayed-in-family-home-is-convicted-sex-offender/ Lincs Reporter on Michael Terry]</ref>
File:Timheron.png|Tim Heron (yet another British vigilante)<ref>[https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/self-styled-paedophile-hunter-convicted-of-having-child-abuse-image-risk-to-public-court-hears/41743167.html IRONY: Self-styled paedophile hunter convicted of having child abuse image 'risk to public' court hears]</ref>
File:paultong.png|Paul Tong (British vigilante - surprise)<ref>[https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/17/paedophile-hunter-jailed-another-group-unmasked-child-sex-predator-12864925/ Paul Tong: Metro]</ref>
File:Marcel.png|Marcel Vervloesem (Belgian vigilante, subsequently found guilty,<ref>[https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Vervloesem FR Wikipedia: Marcel Vervloesem]</ref> see also Dutroux victims' Lawyer<ref>[https://www.france24.com/en/20080219-dutroux-victims-lawyer-charged-with-paedophilia-belgium-crime Dutroux's Lawyer charged (and subsequently convicted) of CP]</ref>)
File:UPIUNICEF.png|Jozef Verbeek (UNICEF)
File:Screenshot amer vig.png|Brian Carrigan (American Vigilante)<ref>[https://northpennnow.com/vigilante-from-montco-who-targeted-pedophiles-online-is-arrested-on-child-p-p6611-119.htm Teen Vigilante from Montco Who Targeted Pedophiles Online is Arrested on Child Porn Charges]</ref>
File:Todeschini.png|Dave Todeschini (Q-Anon)<ref>[https://twitter.com/BryanDawsonUSA/status/1610302729343074310 Bryan Dawson Twitter thread, video of Dave Todeschini of Q Anon]</ref>
File:Godlewski.png|Phil Godlewski (Q-Anon)
File:Beng.png|Ben Gibson (More Q-Anon)<ref>[https://www.rawstory.com/amp/gop-candidate-who-pushed-qanon-conspiracy-theory-gets-arrested-for-child-2649555901 Ben Gibson - Rawstory]</ref>
File:Pedogate.png|"Pedogate" Reddit Mod (Q-Anon/Pizzagate)<ref>[https://www.dailydot.com/debug/pedogate-subreddit-moderator-pedophile/ DailyDot: Pedogate]</ref>
File:Insider.png|Joshua Jennings - (Q-Anon)<ref>[https://www.insider.com/save-our-children-oklahoma-man-accused-killing-baby-qanon-2020-9 Insider: Joshua Jennings]</ref>
File:415.png|Sean McHugh - Anti-pedophile protestor, for sex with a 14 year old<ref>[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/04/politics/capitol-rioter-rape-charge/ Sean McHugh]</ref>
File:Bunag.jpg|Alden Bunag (Twitter SJW)<ref>[https://www.justice.gov/usao-hi/pr/former-oahu-schoolteacher-sentenced-175-years-prison-producing-child-pornography DoJ: Bunag sentence]</ref>
File:King.png|Stephen King - British "Child Sex Abuse Expert"
File:Strom.png|[[Wikipedia:Kevin Alfred Strom|Kevin Strom]] - US Neo Nazi<ref>[https://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/ToolBarTopics/Articles/Featured_Authors/strom,_kevin/kevin_strom_works/Kevin_Strom_2002-2004/Kevin_A._Strom_20030830_Milestones_for_Moguls.html Strom's anti-pedophile Jewish conspiracy essay]</ref>
<ref>File:Sutherland.png|[https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/10/library-vandalism-groomer-child-porn-charge/ WaPo: Charles Sutherland]</ref>
File:Joeldavis.png|Joel Davis - "Sexual Violence" TedX expert, [[UN]] Youth Ambassador<ref>[https://www.dailysabah.com/americas/2018/06/28/prominent-us-anti-sexual-violence-activist-arrested-for-child-abuse Daily Sabah - Joel Davis]</ref>
File:Dolte.png|Michael Dolce - <small>"Protect Children" child sex abuse attorney, award-winning "sexual violence" media figurehead.<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11931861/Florida-attorney-53-caught-thousands-child-pornography-images-computer.html Daily Mail: Arrest of Michael Dolce]</ref></small>
File:Mailore.png|Police officers are hugely over-represented among child porn users. See also, Ken Lanning's testimony<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/pRPSQ3A3y3jac3hqkAMSTZ From 12.30 mins]</ref>
File:Kovacs.png|Kevin A. Kovacs - D.A.R.E. Child Safety Instructor
File:Screenshot 20230417-215000 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Frank J. Collins (accusation against law-enforcement backed sex abuse clown). In 1986.<ref>[https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/03/28/Windy-the-Clown-charged-in-sex-case/2639512370000/ Frank Collins UPI]</ref>
File:Neilcohen.png|Neil Cohen: US Dem Lawmaker<ref>[https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/fmr-assemblyman-gets-5-years-custody-for-child-porn/ CBS News: Example of Cohen's publicity]</ref>
File:Jarvis.png|Christopher Jarvis, [[Safeguarding]] police expert<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054674/Roman-Catholic-churchs-paedophile-investigator-jailed-possessing-thousnds-child-porn-images.html Roman Catholic church's paedophile investigator jailed for possessing thousands of child porn images]</ref>
File:Reedc.png|Cody Dallas Reed - "Kill Pedophiles" Corrections Officer<ref>[https://themessenger.com/news/corrections-officer-who-called-for-killing-pedophiles-arrested-on-child-porn-charges Corrections Officer Who Called for Killing Pedophiles Arrested on Child Porn Charges]</ref>
File:AlaskaAIsus.png|Anthaney O’Connor - Reported someone for AI pic.<ref>[https://gizmodo.com/alaska-man-reported-someone-for-ai-csam-then-got-arrested-for-the-same-thing-2000543461]</ref>
File:RogersPredHunter.png|Brandon San-Miguel - Predator Hunter.<ref>[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-claiming-to-be-predator-hunter-arrested-on-child-porn-charges-in-rogers/ar-BB1pHuYl]</ref>
File:Collagememe.png|Collaged examples <small>For a larger collage see [[Media:Hypocrites.jpg|here]].</small>
</gallery>

Some examples have not been documented above.<ref>[https://www.ktt2.com/antipedophile-councilman-arrested-for-grape-of-child-under-the-age-32575118 Riley Carter]</ref>

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<noinclude>This template is for transcluding examples of hypocritical [[anti]]s throughout NewgonWiki. To view the pages it has been included with, see "[[Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:APSO|what links here]]".‎</noinclude><gallery>File:Carlbeech.png|Carl Beech - [[NSPCC]]/"[[Safeguarding]]" expert and celebrity accuser
File:Selfown.png|David Abbott (pedo-cop)
File:Anime2.png|Peter Newell (child advocate)
File:Anime.jpeg|Peter Bright (anti-gamergater)
File:Goldberg.png|Christopher Goldberg (anti-gamergater)<ref>[https://eu.poconorecord.com/story/news/crime/2017/06/28/tobyhanna-man-charged-in-child/20412780007/ Christopher Goldberg charges]</ref>
File:Battisson.png|Cameron Battisson (British vigilante)
File:Windso.png|Carl Windsor (another British vigilante)
File:Robinson.png|Carl Robinson (another British vigilante)
File:4039.png|Michael Terry (another British paedo hunter)<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20200926011527/https://lincolnshirereporter.co.uk/2018/03/mum-finds-fellow-online-predator-guardian-who-stayed-in-family-home-is-convicted-sex-offender/ Lincs Reporter on Michael Terry]</ref>
File:Timheron.png|Tim Heron (yet another British vigilante)<ref>[https://www.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/self-styled-paedophile-hunter-convicted-of-having-child-abuse-image-risk-to-public-court-hears/41743167.html IRONY: Self-styled paedophile hunter convicted of having child abuse image 'risk to public' court hears]</ref>
File:paultong.png|Paul Tong (British vigilante - surprise)<ref>[https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/17/paedophile-hunter-jailed-another-group-unmasked-child-sex-predator-12864925/ Paul Tong: Metro]</ref>
File:Marcel.png|Marcel Vervloesem (Belgian vigilante, subsequently found guilty,<ref>[https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Vervloesem FR Wikipedia: Marcel Vervloesem]</ref> see also Dutroux victims' Lawyer<ref>[https://www.france24.com/en/20080219-dutroux-victims-lawyer-charged-with-paedophilia-belgium-crime Dutroux's Lawyer charged (and subsequently convicted) of CP]</ref>)
File:UPIUNICEF.png|Jozef Verbeek (UNICEF)
File:Screenshot amer vig.png|Brian Carrigan (American Vigilante)<ref>[https://northpennnow.com/vigilante-from-montco-who-targeted-pedophiles-online-is-arrested-on-child-p-p6611-119.htm Teen Vigilante from Montco Who Targeted Pedophiles Online is Arrested on Child Porn Charges]</ref>
File:Todeschini.png|Dave Todeschini (Q-Anon)<ref>[https://twitter.com/BryanDawsonUSA/status/1610302729343074310 Bryan Dawson Twitter thread, video of Dave Todeschini of Q Anon]</ref>
File:Godlewski.png|Phil Godlewski (Q-Anon)
File:Beng.png|Ben Gibson (More Q-Anon)<ref>[https://www.rawstory.com/amp/gop-candidate-who-pushed-qanon-conspiracy-theory-gets-arrested-for-child-2649555901 Ben Gibson - Rawstory]</ref>
File:Pedogate.png|"Pedogate" Reddit Mod (Q-Anon/Pizzagate)<ref>[https://www.dailydot.com/debug/pedogate-subreddit-moderator-pedophile/ DailyDot: Pedogate]</ref>
File:Insider.png|Joshua Jennings - (Q-Anon)<ref>[https://www.insider.com/save-our-children-oklahoma-man-accused-killing-baby-qanon-2020-9 Insider: Joshua Jennings]</ref>
File:415.png|Sean McHugh - Anti-pedophile protestor, for sex with a 14 year old<ref>[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/04/politics/capitol-rioter-rape-charge/ Sean McHugh]</ref>
File:Bunag.jpg|Alden Bunag (Twitter SJW)<ref>[https://www.justice.gov/usao-hi/pr/former-oahu-schoolteacher-sentenced-175-years-prison-producing-child-pornography DoJ: Bunag sentence]</ref>
File:King.png|Stephen King - British "Child Sex Abuse Expert"
File:Strom.png|[[Wikipedia:Kevin Alfred Strom|Kevin Strom]] - US Neo Nazi<ref>[https://www.amfirstbooks.com/IntroPages/ToolBarTopics/Articles/Featured_Authors/strom,_kevin/kevin_strom_works/Kevin_Strom_2002-2004/Kevin_A._Strom_20030830_Milestones_for_Moguls.html Strom's anti-pedophile Jewish conspiracy essay]</ref>
<ref>File:Sutherland.png|[https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/10/library-vandalism-groomer-child-porn-charge/ WaPo: Charles Sutherland]</ref>
File:Joeldavis.png|Joel Davis - "Sexual Violence" TedX expert, [[UN]] Youth Ambassador<ref>[https://www.dailysabah.com/americas/2018/06/28/prominent-us-anti-sexual-violence-activist-arrested-for-child-abuse Daily Sabah - Joel Davis]</ref>
File:Dolte.png|Michael Dolce - <small>"Protect Children" child sex abuse attorney, award-winning "sexual violence" media figurehead.<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11931861/Florida-attorney-53-caught-thousands-child-pornography-images-computer.html Daily Mail: Arrest of Michael Dolce]</ref></small>
File:Mailore.png|Police officers are hugely over-represented among child porn users. See also, Ken Lanning's testimony<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/pRPSQ3A3y3jac3hqkAMSTZ From 12.30 mins]</ref>
File:Kovacs.png|Kevin A. Kovacs - D.A.R.E. Child Safety Instructor
File:Screenshot 20230417-215000 DuckDuckGo.jpg|Frank J. Collins (accusation against law-enforcement backed sex abuse clown). In 1986.<ref>[https://www.upi.com/Archives/1986/03/28/Windy-the-Clown-charged-in-sex-case/2639512370000/ Frank Collins UPI]</ref>
File:Neilcohen.png|Neil Cohen: US Dem Lawmaker<ref>[https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/fmr-assemblyman-gets-5-years-custody-for-child-porn/ CBS News: Example of Cohen's publicity]</ref>
File:Jarvis.png|Christopher Jarvis, [[Safeguarding]] police expert<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054674/Roman-Catholic-churchs-paedophile-investigator-jailed-possessing-thousnds-child-porn-images.html Roman Catholic church's paedophile investigator jailed for possessing thousands of child porn images]</ref>
File:Reedc.png|Cody Dallas Reed - "Kill Pedophiles" Corrections Officer<ref>[https://themessenger.com/news/corrections-officer-who-called-for-killing-pedophiles-arrested-on-child-porn-charges Corrections Officer Who Called for Killing Pedophiles Arrested on Child Porn Charges]</ref>
File:AlaskaAIsus.png|Anthaney O’Connor - Reported someone for AI pic<ref>[https://gizmodo.com/alaska-man-reported-someone-for-ai-csam-then-got-arrested-for-the-same-thing-2000543461]</ref>
File:RogersPredHunter.png|Brandon San-Miguel - Predator Hunter<ref>[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-claiming-to-be-predator-hunter-arrested-on-child-porn-charges-in-rogers/ar-BB1pHuYl]</ref>
File:Collagememe.png|Collaged examples <small>For a larger collage see [[Media:Hypocrites.jpg|here]].</small>
</gallery>

Some examples have not been documented above.<ref>[https://www.ktt2.com/antipedophile-councilman-arrested-for-grape-of-child-under-the-age-32575118 Riley Carter], [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-claiming-to-be-predator-hunter-arrested-on-child-porn-charges-in-rogers/ar-BB1pHuYl Brandon San-Miguel], and [https://gizmodo.com/alaska-man-reported-someone-for-ai-csam-then-got-arrested-for-the-same-thing-2000543461 Anthaney O'Connor].</ref>

Pediverse

2025-03-06T00:12:31Z

The Admins: /* Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾ */

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

:''Readers are advised to conduct their own research on instance content and the legalities within their home jurisdiction before viewing these servers. We are not responsible for their content and do not share their names or addresses to facilitate sharing of content that may violate any law.''

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

Some of these servers host other platforms, such as decentralized video sharing ([[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]]).

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that appears to have some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It runs on Lemmy, an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. It should be noted that the creator of this instance has stated they will not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]].

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''MAPSupport.de (runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has strict rules against erotica.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove.su - formerly Childlove.space (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo is generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which have both suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (below), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Is relatively easy to join, and known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==Video sharing==

See [[FreeSpeechTube]], a Peertube instance with around 500 registered users (70 active).

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Map_fediverse MAP Fediverse] - Wiki article. We are not responsible for the content of instances this article refers to and advise reviewers to conduct the necessary research before visiting them.
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

Pediverse

2025-03-06T00:06:38Z

The Admins: /* External links */

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

Some of these servers host other platforms, such as decentralized video sharing ([[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]]).

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that appears to have some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It runs on Lemmy, an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. It should be noted that the creator of this instance has stated they will not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]].

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''MAPSupport.de (runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has strict rules against erotica.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove.su - formerly Childlove.space (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo is generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which have both suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (below), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Is relatively easy to join, and known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==Video sharing==

See [[FreeSpeechTube]], a Peertube instance with around 500 registered users (70 active).

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Map_fediverse MAP Fediverse] - Wiki article. We are not responsible for the content of instances this article refers to and advise reviewers to conduct the necessary research before visiting them.
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

Pediverse

2025-03-06T00:06:16Z

The Admins: /* External links */

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

Some of these servers host other platforms, such as decentralized video sharing ([[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]]).

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that appears to have some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It runs on Lemmy, an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. It should be noted that the creator of this instance has stated they will not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]].

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''MAPSupport.de (runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has strict rules against erotica.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove.su - formerly Childlove.space (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo is generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which have both suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (below), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Is relatively easy to join, and known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==Video sharing==

See [[FreeSpeechTube]], a Peertube instance with around 500 registered users (70 active).

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Map_fediverse MAP Fediverse] - Wiki article. We are not responsible for the content of instances this article refers to and advise reviewers to conduct the necessary research before visiting them.
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

Pediverse

2025-03-06T00:03:18Z

The Admins: Further reduce liability

__NOTOC__[[File:Pedi tree.png|thumb|Representation of the wider [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]] as a tree (late 2022)]]
The '''Pediverse''' (a portmanteau of "[[Pedophilia|pedophile]]" and "universe", deriving from the widely-used term "'''[[Wikipedia:Fediverse|Fediverse]]'''") is an ensemble of [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|federated (i.e. interconnected) servers]] or services that are used by [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs and allies]] for web publishing (i.e. social networking, microblogging, blogging, or websites) and file hosting.

While independently hosted, users on these servers can communicate with users on other servers, although one server owner may freely decide to block other servers, or promote particular servers to their userbase. On different servers (technically instances), pediverse users can create profiles on what are typically [[Wikipedia:Fediverse|open-source social media platforms]] modeled on popular social networks such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. These profiles are able to communicate over the boundaries of the instances because the software running on the servers supports one or more ''communication protocols'' that follow an open standard.

As an identity on the pediverse, users are able to post text and other media, or to follow posts by other identities. In some cases, users can show or share data (video, audio, text, and other files) publicly or to a selected group of identities, and allow other identities to edit other users' data (such as a calendar or an address book).

==Pediverse socials and our Official Guidance[[Ethos of Newgon#Official Guidance|⁽ᵂʰᵃᵗ ᶦˢ ᵗʰᶦˢˀ⁾]]==

MAPs have been proactive in setting up federated/decentralized communication platforms, because of well-founded fears centering on [[censorship]] and [[Vigilantism|harassment]], mental health and [[Validity Policing|validity policing]].

Front-ends/user interfaces include Mastodon, and Pleroma, but the information being shared remains the same regardless of what server you are accessing it from, and what software is being used on the server.

The better-known federated social (ActivityPub) instances are listed below underneath their advisory ratings. These ratings are to be read as a guide only, and the factors determining how an instance is rated by us, are in constant flux.

All such servers permit communication with one another. A few exceptions exist, such as NNIA's defederation of Youjo, Yesmap and Childlove, and the Xelebre.com instance, which has blocked almost every Pediverse instance, despite claiming to be anti-censorship and pro-free-speech. Pediverse servers uniformly prohibit [[Child Pornography|CP]] sharing and other illegal activity within their own effective jurisdictions, and most build in contingencies for user jurisdictions.

Some of these servers host other platforms, such as decentralized video sharing ([[Wikipedia:PeerTube|Peertube]]).

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Generally considered safe</span>===

*'''RQD2.net (runs on Lemmy)'''

::[[Alternative Initialism|Radqueer/Inclusionist]] instance that appears to have some restrictions against uncivil conduct, while being more serious about limiting trolls and malicious actors than other instances. It runs on Lemmy, an untested front-end, and new frontier in fediverse. It should be noted that the creator of this instance has stated they will not carry out discriminatory actions against users regardless of whether they are [[pro-c]] or [[anti-contact]].

*'''Fedi.yesmap.net (runs on Mastodon)'''

::[[Newgon]]-funded instance. Designed to have high levels of tolerance for freedom of speech, while completely excluding erotica, eye-candy/gooning, malicious sharing of personal information, illegal conduct and anti-MAP propaganda/disruption. It is thus intended to act as an "instance of last resort", providing sanctuary for those who have reservations about administrators on other instances, or who were not invited. Generally now used for main accounts of individuals with little interest in erotica looking for a sustainable instance.

::The concept underlying Yesmap's social, is that its domain has the highest levels of security, and its content has the lowest levels of liability. Therefore, when other instances go down, fediverse users will log in to their Yesmap account to view the entire Fediverse and receive updates concerning what the admins of those other instances intend to do. Yesmap will also serve as a repository for Fediverse users' more "meaningful" contributions, ensuring they are not lost for eternity.

*'''MAPSupport.de (runs on Mastodon)'''

::The instance federates NNIA (below) and defederates Yesmap. It contains general MAP related content and has strict rules against erotica.

===<span style="background:#ade6bb">Unknown</span>===

*'''Numerous other servers'''

::Less information about reputation is available, and the servers are now constantly being replaced because registrars routinely suspend their domains. By signing up for servers with stricter rules against erotica, users can gain insight into what other servers might host or federate material which is legal in their jurisdiction.

===<span style="background:yellow">Extreme caution</span>===

*'''Pawoo (runs on Mastodon)'''

::Described as *''adjacent'' to the Pediverse, this huge Mastodon instance is home to a large community of deviance fetishists ("Goons") who exchange masturbatory fictional material - most controversially on the topic of [[rape]]. Pawoo users are therefore often seen as stereotyped [[Teleiophilia|Teleiophiles]] or "normie" self-denying MAPs by users of "true" Pediverse instances who derogatorily refer to them as "''Pawooners''" (Pawoo + Gooners). Other pediverse users have attempted to convert Pawooners into self-aware MAPs.

::Has often had its domains suspended. Is often filtered by smaller instances due to the large amount of graphic material it contains. Mentioned here not as a promotion, but due to its fame and notoriety, and potentially for protection of other instances.

*'''[[NNIA]].space and NNIA.cc* (run on Mastodon and Soapbox respectively)'''

::Although MAP social networking sites had existed before it,<ref>NNIA's Map-Wiki offshoot [https://archive.is/9vg6I#selection-1099.0-1103.179 claims] there was an almost unknown instance that existed before it:

<small>'''''"Phenomenal.masto.host'''. Launched in 2019 by an ex member of map Tumblr, this was the first known map Mastodon instance. It never gained publicity and was shut down by the admin after a couple of months."''</small> </ref> NNIA.space (created in May 2020) was the first true Pediverse social in the wider ''Fediverse''. NNIA runs on '''Mastodon''', and [[Anti-contact]] predominates, due to restrictions on contact debate/discourse. Putting aside the restrictions against contact debates, NNIA is home to a lot of identity discourse not seen elsewhere, with identities that could be seen as "more marginalized" and "less assimilated" being embraced. For example, following the earlier celebration of "[[Wikipedia:Zoosadism|Zoosadist]] Pride",<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Zoosadist_by_Lecter.png Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals]</ref> in 2023, a flag featuring hard candy<ref>Various flags: [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Aptomap_by_Lecter.png Aptomap], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Apto_by_Vile.png Apto], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necro_MAP_explained_by_Nyan_(Mewzyz_on_Twitter).png Necro MAP], [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Necropedozoo_by_Pappy.png Necropedozoo]</ref><ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/Category:Flags Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.]</ref> was even created for individuals who are attracted to the idea of "grooming children" (while it is claimed these are genuine attempts at creating new identities, some disagree with this and suspect other motives). Nazi Fetish flags are among their other contributions.<ref>[https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_fetish_by_Vinnie.png Nazi Fetish], and [https://paraflags-wiki.org/index.php/File:Nazi_kink_2_by_Death.png Nazi Kink]</ref> Defederation (i.e. censorship) of other MAPs for political/trivial reasons such as edgy humor makes the instance unsuitable for those accustomed to an unfiltered internet, or prone to political incorrectness.

::Users should be '''cautioned''' that prominent administrators and users of NNIA have been implicated in [[Special Article: Anti-c MAP Tumblr, Twitter and Fediverse - Material for Character Analysis|doxing]].

===<span style="background:#1e90ff">Defunct</span>===

*'''Oddballs.online'''

::A famous instance run by Ezra, and the subject of doxxing and YouTube videos. It was home to anti, neutral and pro-c MAPs among others and contained a high proportion of ironic, fiction and art posting.

::Shut down after prolonged DDoS attack.

*'''Lolison (.network .top, various domains runs on Pleroma)'''

::A large and multi-faceted instance, said to have its own forum and other projects.

*'''Childlove.su - formerly Childlove.space (runs on Mangane, all domains suspended)'''

::Created as a Soapbox instance by Yesmap server members in October 2023, but independent of Yesmap.net and [[PCMA]], this was an anti-censorship instance that did not disable members for political opinions of any kind, and grew to 1000+ members within 2 weeks of opening. This was after concerns emerged re. doxxing and malicious conduct on other instances, and shortly before Youjo's domain was suspended for unrelated reasons, leading to an influx of refugees. Rules similar to Youjo.love, but open application (no invite required).

::Has faced minor controversy concerning two openly-identified Nazi members - although they were eventually banned for harassment or disappeared/left the instance voluntarily for alternatives including one server notorious for hosting Nazi MAPs. Has sometimes been criticized and ridiculed because of its administrators' "absolutist" view of borderline images featuring minors as a freedom of speech issue. It is held that this instance has no responsibility toward users in jurisdictions other than Luxembourg, which has rather lax laws. Following the suspension of the .space domain by Namesilo, an .su alternative launched in November 2023 but was suspended.

::Another reincarnation appeared briefly in 2024 and 2025.

*'''Youjo (runs on modified Pleroma/Akkoma)<sup>[domains youjo.love and youjo.observer unavailable, server still operating]</sup>'''

::A currently suspended invite-only instance that is curated according to the owner's wishes, but pro-federation with respect to other servers. [[Pro-c]] predominates, and the site owner aims to once again host a broad variety of federated and unfederated resources, such as video hosting and a booru.

::MAPs on other instances have criticized the admin of Youjo for platforming politically incorrect and extremist personalities, including donors - something she openly acknowledges as part of the instance's mode of operation in its previous form.

::As a social, Youjo is generally thought to run smoother than the Mastodon instances, which have both suffered from loss of technical features. Other personal, invite-only instances do exist, and some host small cliques of friends. Youjo was probably the most popular example of such an instance while it existed.

*'''Freak.university (runs on Mastodon, social currently unavailable)'''

::Similar to NNIA (below), with less restrictions on discourse. According to them, their userbase ''"includes paraphiles, the mentally ill, queer folk, transX folk, and people with any other non-normative or heavily stigmatized identity."'' Is relatively easy to join, and known as the place some NNIA users take advantage of the more relaxed rules.

::There was varied debate in the community relating to this instance's toleration/amplification of malicious conduct. In 2023, following a leadership crisis in the community, FU administration did after some time take definitive action against two leading NNIA personalities for malicious behavior against other MAPs.

::One concern within the community related to the administrator's personal situation, which some believed made her instance vulnerable to law enforcement infiltration. There has, however, been no known fallout from this situation thus far.

::Parts of the site are slowly returning in 2024.

==Real-time chat==

Numerous servers host [[Wikipedia:Matrix (protocol)|Matrix accounts]] and promote lists of rooms with varying degrees of openness to MAPs. '''Yesmap.net''' (funded by us) was one such example, promoting an activist workgroup called [[Help:Joining_PCMA_chat|PCMA]], which links up with various others. Since Yesmap left the Matrix scene, some of the remaining servers are '''midov.pl''', '''needsmo.re''' '''crypted.cafe'''. Some users opt for the standard Matrix.org account.

==Video sharing==

See [[FreeSpeechTube]], a Peertube instance with around 500 registered users (70 active).

==See also==

*[[Minor attracted community]]
*[[MAP Starting Guide]]

==External links==

*[http://nnia.space NNIA.space]
*[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA joining instructions]]
*[https://wiki.radqueer.net/index.php?title=Pediverse RQ Pediverse Wiki article]
*[https://wowana.me/blog/toward-a-healthier-federation.xht Toward a healthier federation] - Details (e.g.) Nil's anime.website.
*[https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/child-safety-fediverse/ Digesting the “Child Safety on Federated Social Media” Report ]

==References==

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Censorship]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]][[Category:Websites]][[Category:Websites: MAP]][[Category:Websites: Boylove]][[Category:Websites: Girllove]][[Category:Websites: Sympathetic]][[Category:History & Events: International]][[Category:History & Events: 2020s]]

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Debate Guide: Social Media and Trolling

2025-03-04T15:03:03Z

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:''For a guide to trolling techniques used against MAPs, see [https://web.archive.org/web/20170630142715/https://medium.com/pedophiles-about-pedophilia/trollology-a-basic-course-17de2dfc0639 this] archived blog post.''

'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.

Jim Burton has written ([[Essay:"Pedophile trolling"?|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.

[[File:Twitter.png|thumb|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]
==Twitter Guide==

:''Fancy the idea of putting these techniques into action, or just discussing them with an actual person? See [[Help:Joining PCMA chat|Joining PCMA chat]]''

Due to its size and openness to Liberal minorities, Twitter is one of the better platforms for MAP Activism. Even then, Twitter suspends accounts without any notice/warning/reason, and randomly requests phone verification, usually every few weeks on an active account. MAPs and Allies have successfully evaded censorship against these stacked odds, and avoided account suspensions by using some basic tips and tricks while tweeting. Some have surpassed 1500+ tweets, when using a more cautious mix of pro-c and anti-[[Research: The Dangers of Stigma|stigma]] content. Following initial suspensions, Twitter users can employ virtual numbers to verify a new account, and these come as cheap as $0.1 per verification. An entire industry has sprung up around phone verifications. Care must still be taken to use your account prudently, and it should ideally last for 300+ tweets. The longer it lasts, the more followers you gain (if you do some moderate “organic” following – say 15 MAP/Ally accounts per session) and the more reach you will have within this group, and possibly even beyond it.

'''Remember, when we are debating, our aim is not to directly convince the 1-2 people with whom we are conversing in a thread, but to broadcast our message to passive readers. These undecided “lurkers” may not be interacting in the thread but will still be reading our tweets.'''

===Precautions===

*1) Always clear your cookies (from '''Twitter and T.co''') when switching between/creating new accounts, or even better, open Twitter in Incognito mode, so that it does not save cookies and tracking details. If you happen to open a new account once a previous one is suspended, you ought not to be running the same IP or cookies and give your game away. Consider a browser fingerprint emulator/extension like Chameleon, to hide your digital signature.

*2) Always use a '''VPN''', there are many free VPNs available. Also, remember that for each account, you should always connect to the same country’s servers whenever you log into the VPN. This helps prevent Twitter’s algorithms getting suspicious and asking you to re-verify. This also hides your real IP address and adds an extra layer of security.

===Account creation===

High-quality accounts (with ''serviceable'' email verifications) can be purchased in bulk for as little as a 50cents a piece from websites such as '''AccFarm''', and we will often have them lined up in chat, ready to go, so just ask.

Manually creating an account on Twitter is also simple, when you use our phone verification facility. Twitter will ask you for a username, password and phone number. You can use whichever name you want, or use this website to generate a random username. Try to pick a username which doesn’t have many trailing numbers, as it looks suspicious and such accounts are more likely to get suspended. If you are modifying an account you purchased, remember you are free to change the username a few times, and probably should, initially.

Have the phone verification service (e.g. '''SMSPVA.com''') open during your account creation, so you can hire the number as you go through the process. You will need the number to proceed, and it may cost as little as 5 cents of credit. The country of the number you hire usually doesn't have to correspond to the IP address you are using. Remember, before logging out of your first session with the new account, <span style="background:#ffd9e5">'''you must immediately delete the phone number from Twitter control panel'''</span>. This is because you will not be able to re-verify with the same number. Removing your number forces them to come looking for a new one, once the time comes to reverify (usually every 6 weeks or so). Twitter may ask you to solve a few small puzzles during or after account creation. This is to verify that you are not a robot.

'''For your bio (biography)''', unless you are aiming for “MAP Visibility”, avoid writing anything like ‘MAP, NoMAP, Pro-C, Anti-Contact’ in your bio. Ideally, a “normie” account should read like a list of interests. Common phrases include "opinions my own" and "RT does not = endorsement". Other useful identities are "researcher" or "academic", although these are harder to fake for obvious reasons. If you are impersonating a MAP, civilian or MAP-adjacent person (proshipper, zoofur, anime fan) go with a popular character from a fandom, maybe (for your display pic). This way, you can blend in with existing communities on Twitter, if you have reasonable knowledge of them. If you want to use a fake “real” identity, use the notorious trolling tool '''TPDNE''' to create a random face. Please note, however, in the past, some haters have figured out when others have been using AI generated faces as profile pictures. So, in order to avoid that, put the image into a free photo editor ('''photoshop CS2, GIMP, etc''') to remove color, increase shade, distort the angle, or rotate slightly to put the eyes off-level. You can also add noise and very slight blurring effects with such photo-editing tools – making it look more like a user-shot photo. Alternatively, just claim upfront that you are “anonymous researcher/student” or “citizen journalist”, and use a silhouette, TPDNE face, avatar or random object as your display pic. Anonymity is entirely plausible and realistic, given what you are going to be using the account for!

===Engaging===

When you first get started on Twitter, start following the account of prominent researchers and organizations (Prostasia, Virped, James Cantor, Michael Bailey, Michael Seto), then your fellow team members. Tackle new frontiers every day, and keep it fresh. Don’t reply to tweets that are too old, as not many people are likely to view them. There are ways to find new places to engage:

*Search Query (advanced), e.g. With the brackets as the search box[ pedophilia min_retweets:1 ]. You could alternatively filter results such as [ pedophiles min_retweets:1 ] [ pedophilia min_retweets:1 ] [ pedophile min_retweets:1 ] [ MAP Pedo min_retweets:1 ] [ "minor attracted" min_retweets:1 ] [ CSA min_retweets:1 ] [ "Child Sexual Abuse" min_retweets:1 ] or introduce more parameters, e.g. [ pedophilia min_replies:5 min_faves:5 min_retweets:2 ].
*Check your associates' Twitter accounts and see whom they are engaging with/followed by.
*Automatic feed or private list. When you follow people with similar agendas, you are likely to get their tweets in your feed automatically, you can start out from there. Or just set up a “list” with selected users (perhaps even antis), and save it as private; visible only to you.
*Search using Twitter’s explore feature.
*Look out for Quote Retweets. These are one major way information proliferates and metastasizes.
*Retweet useful content. If you agree with an argument, share it, or give your own take. The same if you strongly disagree. Try not to waffle or fence-sit.

====Debating strategy====

Take a look at your fellow MAPs and allies and see the conversations they are engaging in, the tweets they are replying to and join in with a conversation thread – perhaps a fork that has not yet been answered. Try to reply to the latest tweets. Check a [[Debate Guide]]/[[RoadMAP Debate Script|Debate Script]], as well as checking for any relevant [[Memes and Graphics|info-meme]] or [[Talk:Research|research excerpt graphic]] that suits the situation. Try to reply to some of the Tweets for which you have a good comeback, as Quote Retweets.

The most effective way of debating as an activist is to quickly establish the truth claims or assumptions of your opponent, and then baldly refute/discredit them without support, pointing to the fact that research or common sense says otherwise. This looks more plausible and more “disinterested” than forming a full, fact-based rebuttal in that one instant. If and when you are challenged, unload all the relevant research (including info-memes and research graphics) within 2-4 consecutive tweets, before your opponent can even reply. ''State upfront that you are not there to debate, just to correct bad assumptions, and ''aim to leave the conversation at this point. Move on to a new target. New targets will bring in new passive readers. Over-long “marathon” threads achieve very little for every half hour of time we invest in them, and risk dragging viewers ''away'' from your substantive arguments at the top of the thread! Long, tiring threads tend to betray the participants’ (including your) emotional investments and logical flaws, while casting no new light upon the subject at hand.

====On the value of infographics====

You can use the linked Infomemes and Research based excerpts above, free of attribution. Use them in the relevant place as much as possible. They are a good way to attract viewers to your tweets, and overcome character limits. Don’t forget [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] (including your own experiences). People are far more likely to believe an argument, if it is attached to an emotive anecdote and a human face.

===Sidestepping the censors===

Censorship has been the biggest hurdle facing MAPs, not only on Twitter, but on all other platforms. Here are a few basic rules to avoid censorship:

*The first rule is to avoid using the word “child(ren)” or “kid(s)” as much as possible (most "CSA" involves 12-16 year olds). Use words like “they”, “them”, “minor/youth/young person/teen” instead of “children”, especially when juxtaposed to “adult”. Avoiding “child” (or its synonyms), “adult” and “sex” in the same tweet allows prejudiced viewers to “assume the best” of your argument, and is less of a red flag for “selfish” “pedo-logic” or someone who is thinking with their dick.

*Try to focus the debate on the topic which you are arguing, like brain development, [[Age of Consent]], psychological harm, etc. In this way, you should not be drawn into using words like “child” or ”children” by an opponent, thus conceding their misplaced assumptions about the very young age of the subjects, and losing the debate. When needed, make use of numerical ages instead of saying child, i.e. “13y/o” or “someone who is/was 13”. Instead of “sex”, use words that do not imply penetration (relations, sexual activity). Point out when they try to introduce hypothetical infants, etc as an absurd device.

'''Example - rewording:'''

If you want to say - “When a '''child''' has sex with an '''adult''', it does not always cause trauma”:

<blockquote>''Research and anecdotes indicate that when '''they''' are sexually active with an adult, harm does not always follow” or...''<br>
''Many '''youth''', even those who don’t initiate the activity with an older person – do not show the '''stereotypical signs''' of trauma”.''</blockquote>

When ''they'' state that "a '''child''' cannot [[consent]] to sex":

<blockquote>''“Consent” is essentially when a '''minor's''' agreement to '''sexual intimacy''' is deemed valid by the law in his or her jurisdiction. Who sets these rules?''</blockquote>

*Avoid directly '''“glorifying pedophilia”''' (it’s counter to the terms and conditions). Don’t say “pedophilia is normal and natural”. Instead, go with “sexual intimacy is a natural thing; unrelated to arbitrary age limits for most of human history”. In general, try to limit the use of the word ‘pedophilia’, unless necessary. Also, whenever possible or whenever reference is needed, try to use the word “adult” instead of MAPs. This reduces any undue attention on the identitarian group; after all minor-adult sex is a topic for the whole of society, and doesn't "belong" to MAPs.

*Use '''info-memes''' (linked further up) when appropriate. They cannot be easily detected and interpreted by algorithms and they are almost immune to censorship. They also attract attention (increasing engagement/clickthrough). Info-memes help bypass the word limit on Twitter, and you can use your tweet to summarize what is inside.

*Similarly, to bypass the '''character limit''', just write your reply in a document (word/notepad) and insert the screenshot as an image. You can use tools like '''LightShot''', which makes it easy. And you can insert the screenshot as an image in your tweet.

*Sometimes it might happen that you get noticed and people start a mass-reporting campaign against you. If you feel that the risk of a ban is high, ''first'' block whoever is doing this (and their associates) and ''then'' change your username – even going "private" in your settings.

*Use '''mass-blocking tools''' (or ask our group admin for the most recent blocklist). Unfortunately, we are not aware of any app that allows *community* sharing of blocklists, and automatic blocking from a raw list. One such script is [https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/398540-twitter-block-with-love Twitter Block With Love].
With '''MegaBlock''', you can not only block the user from an account that has published a tweet that has been offensive to you for any reason, you can also do the same with all those who liked the tweet. Usually when someone is a violent and arrogant type of enemy, all their followers are of the same kind. They will often co-ordinate to harass you, so you can block people along with all their followers with the Chrome Extension, '''Twitter Block Chain'''.

===Tips===

*Do not follow more than 10-15 accounts per session (especially in one fell swoop), Twitter perceives it as suspicious behavior and may ask to verify the account.
*Do not reply to tweets in quick succession in a short period of time (particularly with identical replies). Twitter sees this as spamming and this is the quickest way to get your account suspended. Limiting yourself to around 1 tweet per minute also allows you to compose more intelligent and less bot-like responses.
*Do not engage in flaming, i.e. abusive or violent words, this is again another way to lose the account quickly. We have to be assertive but civil as we are already on probation for our beliefs.
*Pick and choose your battles carefully. You will find various kinds of people on Twitter, there are some you need to avoid, some you need to engage.
:*'''Avoid:''' You will find people who encourage violence (‘go kill yourself’ or ‘pedos deserve to die’) or engage in/incite mass-report campaigns against “pedos”. Such people are not worth engaging with. BLOCK them, unless you feel that you are uniquely able to bait some truly atrocious/bannable behavior out of them while remaining civil. If they have made a bannable comment, you may also REPORT them (particularly if they are high profile) – we had success using this function against the influencer Marina Camacho (aka Holistic Honey). Remember that Twitter takes comments encouraging suicide very seriously.
:*'''Engage:''' There are some people who are willing to partake of civil discussion. Others will be so ignorant as to make you look good by comparison. These are the people whom you need to target.
*If you are getting too overwhelmed with the number of replies, limit yourself to 1 reply per person (with an adequate graphic and/or link), or choose the low-hanging fruits, whose arguments you can easily counter. Don’t stress yourself too much, and don’t hesitate to use the block button.
*Keep checking your analytics once in a while for now many people viewed your tweets, also don’t get disappointed if the impressions and engagement is poor. You can check it for both individual tweets and also for your complete profile. To check the individual tweets, click on the three lines on the right most side below your tweet.
*If any of your tweets blow up and get lots of comments, encourage others to join into the conversation via your DMs or thru a chat client.
*Take screenshots of your best tweets and their analytics. Re-use the rhetorical methods in the more successful examples (see the section on baiting in the below trolling guide).
*Don't spam or squat hashtags, but be aware of their potential uses. Perhaps invent a catchy hashtag and promote it as a meme. Viralization of a tweet increases the risk of a suspension or a ban, but ultimately, we are here to create a buzz around our topic.
*Work with others - i.e. one friend can make baity comments, while numerous others take advantage of the commotion by interjecting with intelligent commentary and rebuttals.
*It is recommended that you refer to the classic [[Debate Guide]] before you begin, or at least the [[RoadMAP Debate Script|scripted version]].

==Trolling Guide==

Trolling is a strategy that has worked for some MAP Activists, and not worked for others. Always pay attention to the T&C and norms on the platform you are using.

Jim Burton's essay, [[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners|Pedophile trolling for beginners]], written with assistance from [[PCMA]], serves as a comprehensive guide to trolling techniques.

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Essay:"Pedophile trolling"?

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:''For a guide to trolling techniques used <u>against</u> MAPs, see [https://web.archive.org/web/20170630142715/https://medium.com/pedophiles-about-pedophilia/trollology-a-basic-course-17de2dfc0639 this] archived blog post from Enderphile.''

<small>''It is worth noting, as a '''general disclaimer''', [[MAP visibility on Twitter|debating strategies]] involving the impersonation or co-option of otherwise hostile parties (such as radical conservatives, 4chan and groypers) are not uncontroversial within our community. This is especially the case where impersonators deploy pro-MAP arguments, and less so when attempting to project a negative image of anti-MAPs. This guide advises users how to employ impersonation, subversion and black propaganda against said groups, or while impersonating them. It may also be of use within those groups, or in instances where they share a common interest with MAPs. For example, educating the public on the history of MAPs in the gay movement might be something MAPs feel obliged do, but conservatives such as [https://www.map-union.org/blog/are-maps-queer Thomas Brough] might wish to employ the same discourse against LGBTQ+ people in an aggressive manner.''</small>

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'''"Pedophile trolling"?: Insights from the MAP Movement's radical fringe.'''

Incorporating ''why "[[Newgon#"Newgooner" label|Newgooners]]" sometimes impersonate the alt-right''.

April 19, 2024 ◆ '''Jim Burton & PCMA'''

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'''"Pedophile trolling"''' is provocative online behavior most will characterize, rightly or wrongly as "pedophile apologia". It can be initiated by dishonest means, but should ideally result in the deeper contemplation of MAP [[Debate Guide|debate topics]], and spark disagreements between your target and others around them.

As there is no shortage of functioning insane people online, pedophile trolling isn't necessarily the sole domain of [[pedophilia|pedophiles]]. With that said, if you post on sites such as Reddit, X and Quora, and are repeatedly accused by onlookers of being a pedo, you are probably engaged in de facto pedophile trolling, whether you know it or not.<ref>Something of note here, is when bourgeois/bohemian pedophiles from various [[pediverse]] instances perform their routine of sneering at [[Newgon]] and [[PCMA]] vols for "trolling", they betray their total lack of experience in outward-facing activism. It is almost impossible to exist as a MAP, let alone as an insufferably woke one, on mainstream platforms such as Reddit, ''without'' being a ''de facto'' troll.</ref>

If these accusations hurt, [[Debate Guide: Don't be too rational|you should perhaps learn to live with them]], or even to take advantage of your new-found infamy. You have found the level of online debate in the 2020s.

Deliberate trolling is a strategy that has worked for some [[MAP Movement|MAP Activists]], and not worked for others. Some of my operatives have tried to debate honestly and logically, only to be accused of being a pedophile. This pedestrian level of debate can be frustrating to some, but not the true pedo troll, who thrives in such situations.

Your success as a pedo troll ultimately depends on your level of skill, ability to impersonate and think like another person, or the person you are accused of being, plus the terms and behavioral norms on the platform you are using. As they have little understanding of online discourse, memes or debate-as-performance, the following personality types are '''generally unable''' to troll, or can only do so in a highly predictable manner:

*Low-IQ.
*Narcissistic.
*Emotional.
*High levels of political "conviction" rather than just enjoying the game.

The last point includes those with an innate tendency to evaluate situations according to a theory of "justice". As an example, I am none of the first three criteria, nor a pedophile, but have to put my judgmental tendencies on hold when engaging in pedophile trolling, as I would end up becoming too argumentative and obscure. In the same sense, it is also no coincidence the most radically left-wing MAPs I know, have only had visibility-engineering successes playing themselves, or characters closely resembling the day-to-day on-server personas I am familiar with. Some of these threads (putting aside an obvious failure to mitigate cringe) have been huge successes. But in my experience, it takes a fundamentally cynical, even borderline nihilistic mindset to repeatedly thrive as an activist troll. That is, to be someone who can control - rather than be controlled by the voices in their head; to employ dishonesty to engineer social visibility, as [[PCMA]] did in 2022/23.
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I'll explain a bit later, why I feel "morally upright" pedo critics of pedo trolls miss the point, but I suspect it has a lot to do with the same factors I describe above. In other words, there is an unwillingness on the part of most online MAPs to flick a switch in their heads and learn to separate the cruel justice of online discourse from a personalized theory of social justice. Perhaps this an an all-too-human kind of a thing, and I am unrealistically expecting more MAPs to behave like permanently online reptilians, but what I see here is a failure to properly mask easily-dismissed "cringe" aspects of their persona; to undermine existing conceptions of what MAPs are really about.

To most active participants in online discourse, the idea of being given a lecture on ethics by a self-proclaimed "degenerate" pedophile is laughable. So don't draw their laughter. There ''is no'' fine-graded understanding of complex psychosocial phenomena, nor ethics with these people because they are zombies; bovines who will only respond to blunt force attacks, and whose only value to the debate is being forced to double down in increasingly absurd and hysterical ways.

This reality is it seems, too much of a slap in the face for most online MAPs at this point in time; they are too fragile, can't accept reality, won't play the long game, etc. Very few I know have even trolled professionally with a game plan, and they see even being part of this community as an achievement in itself.

==What do we want to achieve?==

Pedophile trolls are not aiming to ''convince'' their target opponent/s, i.e. whoever they are arguing with. The troll uses his opponents as a ''mechanism to recenter his radical ideology'' as "wise", "street smart", "principled eccentricity" by forcing them to respond in a certain way before his real target, the ''wider audience''. Most of those reading a thread will be non-participants, i.e. "lurkers"; generally less confident viewers who are more open-minded and more easily persuaded. With this in mind, the activist troll puts himself in compromising situations by making bald assertions others must ask him to source, then makes use of memes and links to information sites, to elaborate on his position, without himself looking pretentious.

The pedophile troll seeks to come across as [[Wikipedia:Lil_B#Artistry|"based"]] and make people laugh at common hypocrisy; this way, he gets people on his side.

==What are the best personas for trolling?==

Just a note here; you should have a few social accounts in reserve if you need them, as per [[Debate Guide: Social Media and Trolling|our technical guide to social media]], as trolling results in multiple bans. Try to put some organic activity on each account first, ideally unrelated or tangentially so, to your cause.

Generally, these days, a '''conservative or alternative-right''' persona works best, because conservatives are assumed to be more counterculture, outrageous and un-PC. Why not identify explicitly as someone who exposes and corrects hypocrisy in liberals? After all, MAPs suffer a great deal from liberal hypocrisy and liberals who are complicit in carceral state politics and lawmaking.

Liberal or moderate personas do actually work, if there is something uncannily radical and emotionally triggering about them, such as a sex educator supporting anonymity for students who are in sexual relationships with adults. My most successful viral threads - those exceeding 1M impressions used liberal or moderate personas to bait conservatives, but then I only ever used liberal personas to avoid offending MAPs, who I am well aware lean left. Bizarrely, left-wing pedophiles seem completely unoffended by all the personas I used linking pedophilia with strongly coded liberal progressivism and leftism, in a completely '''formulaic and stereotyped''' manner. Like I say, they fail to take a step back and assess things within their wider context, and as all good scriptwriters will know, you can't ''understand'' a comedy character, if you ''are'' that character.

While there is no shortage of (often, completely unironic) woke-pedo rage-bait out in the wild ([[NNIA]], anyone?), I maintain that some of the best unexplored opportunities for the pedo troll, might eventually be perpetuated by "traditionalist", "right-wing" personas. We already know we need to:

::a) Inflame mainstream liberals' awareness of their own reactionary hypocrisies to force some to bite the bullet (i.e. become actual, functioning liberals and not shitlibs).
::b) Seed infighting among conservatives, undermining their own predictable attacks on us, or making it [[Republicans are the real pedophiles|look yet more absurd/hypocritical]].
::c) Challenge the ''foundations'' of conservative stereotypes of MAPs.

What covers all of these bases? Pretending to be reactionary MAPs would seem to be the ''obvious'' solution.

While I'm in no doubt MAP rights is ultimately destined to be a radical, or at least socially libertarian struggle, I feel this counterintuitive strategy will add a new aspect to the culture war. ''Both'' sides would be fair game, since they would both be vulnerable to accusations of pedophile ideology if pedophilia was stripped of its left-coding. Our struggle for visibility then transcends conventional radicalism; the pedophile himself transcends the political and is in a strange way humanized. He loses his two-dimensional, memetic status and becomes a ''threat'', as literally anybody from any background could be (an ideological) pedophile.

In support of the argument against my previous brand of woke-pedo baiting, it might also be argued that mainstream liberals are more suspicious of imposters because their accounts aren't getting banned every weekend like the alt-right. This may change as Twitter evolves into X, under its new leadership, but for now at least, liberal and "SJW" type leftist accounts tend to have more followers, more connections and more shared "respectability" codes to conform to among themselves. In this sense, unless you want to get banned inside 2 days, or undermine yourself by posing as a parody account, an SJW persona is more of a long-term project, and may require some understanding of key tenets such as [[Wikipedia:Standpoint theory|standpoint theory]]. You are therefore better throwing out pretty obvious woke-pedo bait for bovine conservatives after just a few retweets of high-profile LGBT accounts and public health agencies. On the other hand, you can create ''plausible'' conservative personas within just a few seconds, because conservatives outside of influencer/personality cliques behave, interact and respawn like insects online.

Another classic activist troll pose (and a politically neutral one) is the "researcher", since it is harder to pin a researcher as that "anonymous person with too much knowledge on a topic". This type of persona has been used extensively by Newgon-supported vols, and is my personal favorite, given I would be ripped apart for pretending to be a reactionary again.

Later on, I will go into a bit more detail about using different personas to attack different targets on different platforms. But a brief word about dishonesty. If you are employing exaggeration, please try to be obvious in your dishonesty by employing hyperbole, (easily read) irony and sarcasm. This way, you "pitch an invisible middle ground" by making your pedo extremism look like unreformed or ignorant "common-sense" and force your readers to concede at least some uncomfortable truths. Most non-participant readers just want to find a moderate position, rather than be wholly convinced, so make your pitch a long way away from where you actually want them to end up. This is ultimately just a less formal version of Newgon's ethos, ''[[Activist model#Moderate demands do not preclude radical philosophy|Radical Philosophy, Moderate Demands]]'', but instead of a moderate fixed platform, there is instead a complete absence of formal demands.

==Who and what is our target?==

Middle or low intelligence targets are bread and butter for a troll, as they are easier to bait and manipulate. These tend to be people with biographies indicating an involvement in sports, gaming, [https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Consoomer "consumption"] of popular culture, or cultural/political topics covered by the corporate media. With this in mind, the persona you project should be anathema to your primary target. They need to hate you at the visceral level, so drop targeted coding in your bio depending on your target, such as pagan "witch" symbolism, Zoomer media consumption, MAGA, even Boomercon, pro-Israel FOX News type values.

Remember, people hang out in online bubbles - both conservative and liberal. They do this for group-reinforcement catharsis - simply hearing their own ideas repeated in soothing metronomic fashion. It gives them a sense of certainty that allays the insecurity of living with an average intellect, and also helps them explain away their failings as injustices. Humans are group animals, and each group creates their own culture, in which they are the "good people", and only "their own people's unique perspective" can attest to this - case in point, the Middle East. For this reason, you should expect to be heavily down-voted, "ratio'd", etc, and you shouldn't care one bit about this as your aim is to play the underdog, puncture their comfort bubble and draw in non-participant viewers. Take a look at Newgon's [[Debate Guide]], formulate three basic provocative statements you might make as a response to to an assertion within ''each of the three'' sections. Never overstep those three tide marks with respect to the extremity ''or complexity'' of your verbiage; i.e. stick to your game plan and maintain some integrity of character, however much of an asshole you are.

When it comes to threads/trends, discriminate, but don't be fussy. You can easily throw out the same or similar message a few times, and see who bites. High profile targets on relevant trends are preferred, as are discussions high up the thread. Using search terms/methods from the [[Debate Guide: Social Media and Trolling|technical guide]], try to catch fresh trends, not exhausted conversations, and ride the wave from there. If a thread isn't working, just switch over - disengage and reengage - don't get bogged down with point-by-point rebuttals. If engaging with [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/deboonker deboonkers], first mock them - the idea they are trying to explain their moral realism (i.e. [[Wiktionary:moralfag|moralfaggotry]]) to imbeciles online, and losing, is inherently funny. Then cut back to the fundamental absurdity of your target's position, using new angles and reference material.

==Playing your target==

Study your target and make personalized attacks on their ideas as "typical" of their in-group - identifying why they are angered by something, in order to provoke that anger. See, for example, one classic example [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3nYm6oVFag employed against an anti-sex feminist].

See a nonce-hater/woodchipper/bullets-for-pedos type meme? Identify the posters as vain men who are [[Debate Guide: Self-loathing hatred|just imitating potted machismo]] to impress petite girls in their mid-to late 20s. Accuse them of being "fake ass" "low testosterone pedos" lusting after barely legal females with the most childish mannerisms and features, insisting they remove intimate hair and refer back to them as "Daddy". Suggest they are probably bisexuals who would lust after twinks more than "real women". If pedo-haters deny this and recycle boomer-tier comments about preferring a mature or large woman, you have pretty much roped them into conceding the entire debate. Most readers will know it's BS.

Ironic [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate|Lolicons]] (men who enjoy drawn images of little girls, but deny they like real lolis) are kind of easy to mind-read, as they have already said the quiet part out loud. We know they are basically pedophiles, and could simply ask them:

<blockquote>''Given what's on your timeline, who are you trying to convince with statements like that?''</blockquote>

[[File:Ratio3.png|thumb|"I'm a Chad. I have bigger balls than you..." bait]]

===Conventional leftist/moderate woke-pedo bait for Conservatives/Chuds===

[[File:Peterson.png|thumb|This tweet, picked up by [[Jordan Peterson]], is a near-perfect example of baiting]]As described above, this (while conventional and boring) is the most common form of bait served up by MAPs and their supporters, and also confirms the worst fears of conservatives by presenting the ultimate victory of MAPs as "another" "woke" social justice cause.

The woke/moderate-pedo bait strategy may work as a ''pinned tweet'' on an active account, as well as in replies to fresh/highly active threads. Try to draw conservatives towards your profile by posting flippant comments on threads, while displaying your grand proclamation in the pin. Here are a few ideas:

*Keep it '''simple'''; most people are stupid. If you use fancy language, or terms that most people don't understand, people will continue scrolling when they see your tweet. They won't read it, won't feel anything, and won't retweet it.
*Try to '''confirm their beliefs''' in the first two sentences. This is the hook, the bait, that will make them continue reading. Then continue with something outrageous in sentence 3 and 4.
:*For example, the captioned tweet starts with ''"It is incredible how strong MAPs and their allies have become. I see them everywhere now."'' Many people believe that pedophiles have a lot of support and are becoming stronger, so this is confirming their beliefs. It continues: ''"It is only a matter of time until the sex fascists will be driven out of society and this insane pedophilia hysteria will come to an end."'' This, of course, goes against their feelings and triggers them. The word "sex fascist" is also an insult to antis. They will feel like they need to object. So they will quote tweet. The tweet finishes: ''"Freedom, at last!"'' Again, this is a huge trigger, because they, of course, don't agree that MAPs should be free.
:*The term "Minor Attracted Person" (MAP) is also a trigger for antis, who see it as a neologism intended to soften the severity of an "heinous crime".

On the other hand, genuinely moderate and conservative MAPs (of which there are many) tend to stay silent online. When they do speak up as themselves, conservative MAPs tend to confound stereotypes but in ways that are rather meek and unspectacular. Some of the most boring, obscure and pointless MAP social media profiles are run by borderline-autistic conservative/moderate MAPs who are unable or unwilling to employ trolling techniques such as those described in this essay.

===Politically conservative personas baiting other conservatives===

[[MAP Movement|MAP Activists]] and the '''Alternative-Right''' generally have very little in common, other than [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|the ''kind'' of knowledge]] we are positioned to take advantage of. Alt-righters, 4channers and many besides, have nevertheless been able to use a good grounding in MAP-awareness in a variety of successful trolling campaigns. Let's first look at triggering [https://incels.wiki/w/Agecuck "Agecuck" 4channers] by pointing out they are behaving like blue-pilled "normies" (see graphics below). This has been a particularly useful strategy for some of us and mirrors the kind of tactics used by Federal Agents to sow division in hostile groups by playing the "authenticity" card. They might do this, for example, by posing individuals as the most "extreme" white-nationalists who diverge from others in their group by supporting Israel. Naturally, this undermines the solidarity of the far-right on that topic, in effect moving them back towards the center while all the time maintaining the illusion of radical nationalist conservatism.

====Gallery of Chud-on-Chud pedophile apologia====

:''There are any number of [[memes and Graphics#Responding_to_Conservatives_(and_their_hypocrisy)|memes and graphics]] dedicated to pointing out liberal hypocrisy.''

<gallery>
File:Redpillped.png|<small>One avenue is using common alt-right optics and argumentation to point out that conservatives are "blue pilled" on age of consent laws.</small>
File:Uspepe.png|US [[Age of Consent]] law: Social Purity and radical feminism
File:4chanRP.png|Examples of pro-[[Hebephilia|hebephile]], age-gap arguments made on 4chan (unrelated to [[Newgon]])<ref>[https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/269300824/ 4chan thread]</ref>
File:Anti cp system.png|Cunny-pill strategy
</gallery>

===Politically conservative personas baiting liberals===

Why not attack the [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|historical dishonesty of the LGBT Movement]], by associating with MAPs for many decades, passing motions against the age of consent, and then breaking with them for completely expedient reasons? Accuse them of being personally aware of this, and vainly trying to deny it. This potential alt-right attack on liberals has been covered elsewhere in this essay, and is very potent.

The reason liberal-left [[anti]]s and LGBTQ+ react to this argument is shock-value; you are catching them off guard with facts. They are suddenly confronted with the obvious hypocrisy they must display to distance "unapproved" or "[[Debate Guide: MAPs are invalid|invalid]]" minorities such as Zoophiles and MAPs. In effect, they are practicing exactly the same "erasure" they decry in others, thus presenting the perfect opportunity for ironically "enlightened" pro-MAP rebuttals.

Try mind-reading as an extension to the above historical argument; begging as to why the aesthetics celebrated by the gay community changed [[Spartacus International Gay Guide|''downstream'' of the in-group's political values]]. And why we have now seen back-slippage towards a femboy aesthetic since gender-nonconformity became more acceptable. For example, on social media channels frequented by gay men, post images of mature male and teen boy models and ask them to declare their preference for one or the other. There is no way they can come out of this looking any better, since the only options for your target will be obvious denial, partial concession, or silence.

====Dealing with "woke" antis====

There are extremes to every ideological bent, and this is also the case for social-justice.

Since you are now dealing with people who have more belief in their ''ability to explain'' an ideology, than the ideology itself, you needn't claim strict adherence to the beliefs ''you'' are espousing. Triggering your opponent sarcastically or ironically is what character-limited social media was made for, and besides, you are ultimately dealing with one form of unseriousness (dressed up as something else), so why not combat it with your own?

To this end, just put "Minor Attracted Person" or "Minor Attracted People" into the search box (perhaps alongside "LGBT(Q)" or "queer") and set a minimum of 2 replies/faves/shares. Inject yourself into a recent conversation and look out for the following troll-prone arguments:

*'''Your target distances MAPs by inadvertently using the "[[Wikipedia:Red pill and blue pill|red pilled]]" argument that MAP is just a euphemism for Pedophilia.'''

So, claim the moral high ground by being technically and politically correct, before getting into the meat of your argument.

Instantly point out that not all minors are prepubescent children, that [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|Pedophilia is defined by the APA, US Govt and even Wikipedia]] as an attraction to prepubescent children, and always has been. Go through the many categories of MAP, point out that MAPs are entitled to value neutral terminology, and finally, repeat their tropes back at them; that "[[Wikipedia:Social justice warrior|SJWs]]" are "denying the existence" and "lived experiences" (of MAPs) by not respecting this!

*'''Your target will often claim they have "never had anything to do with the MAPs", and that the idea gays are out to recruit children is a "pernicious myth" based upon the "defamatory" conflation of gay history with the pederast movement.'''

Wrong. Bring up examples of [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|Harry Hay, Oscar Wilde, Ginsberg and the acceptance of pederasts and pedophiles within the early, post Stonewall Gay Movement]]. Point to Paternotte's paper<ref name="Paternotte">[https://sci-hub.se/10.1177/1363460713511103 The ILGA and the question of pedophilia: Tracking the demise of gay liberation ideals, by David Paternotte]</ref>, which is in and of itself, both highly triggering and awakening for young LGBTs. Also bring up the fact that gay lib only ever cast aside the pederast once he became a liability. The above linked Newgon article on this subject is particularly useful, but you should use sources within the article rather than just sharing the link.

*'''Your target while MAP-adjacent (perhaps a Lolicon, or some kind of [[Paraphilia|paraphile]]), still displays a hatred of MAPs. This is perhaps because many are already part of sometimes marginalized groups such as NBs, Furries, anorexic/ED community, or [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate|ironic lolicon]]s.'''

Point this out as exactly what it is - ''projection'' of one's guilt and anger onto another minority as a form of cathartic group bonding between beat-down deviants. Point out how they have been successfully "divided and conquered" by elite MSM propaganda, and how for the "respectable" perverts, the MAP is simply "too close to home", as he is a more honest mirror image of himself.

Obviously, it's a cope, [[Debate Guide: Self-loathing hatred|or worse]], and this should be pointed out.

*'''Your target sometimes even inadvertently uses the red pilled argument that MAPs are "entryists", attempting to become part of LGBTQ+ politics.'''

This is a simply laughable idea, given just how hard LGBTQ+ people are already protesting against MAPs to disown their past associations. In reality, MAPs were at one point part of LGBTQ+ politics - when multiple organizations such as [[NAMBLA]] and [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] were official members of gay and civil rights organizations (ILGA and CHE + NCCL respectively). They even marched in pride events as recently as the 1990s; how more obvious could you get?

MAPs were eventually excluded at the behest of [[assimilationism|assimilationist]] homosexuals and radical feminists, for predominantly expedient political reasons. MAPs, have of course despised the "pride movement" ever since this great betrayal, seeking to create their own identities. They have had some success in mainstreaming the term [[Minor Attracted Person|"MAP"]] and conceiving a [[MAP Flag]] concept as early as 2009. This is genuinely their own work, as [[Minor Attracted Person (archive research)|proven by web archive research]], and not a trolling campaign. This is what happens when [[Validity Policing#"Queer"_policing|queers attack other queers]], and was always going to happen.

It is clear projection of panic on the part of LGBTQ+, to suggest their former allies are trying to regain entry into a movement that has become just as intolerant and authoritarian as the 1980s American Moral Majority. All the pride lobby care about is [[Rainbow Revisionism|public perception]], running scared of less fashionable minorities, just like the inauthentic, sellout cowards they are.

You can also bolster your anti-[[degeneracy]] argument by claiming that your target is naive and in denial. They are being manipulated/softened up by [[Wiktionary:globohomo|globohomo]] because as liberals/leftists they don't ''instinctively'' perceive pedophilia as degenerate and have to rationalize for or against it. Tell them they will one day learn to tolerate pedophilia as an identity, just as they have learned to tolerate all of the others. Your target is "natively degenerate"; with no religion and no absolute morals, they view most forms of deviance within a morally relativistic/constructivist framework in which "(in)validity" is determined by political circumstance/convenience. Point out, using the resources on Newgon, how the predominance of rational and relativistic approaches will inevitably lead to MAP and MAP-Youth relationships becoming normalized. This will always be the case unless some moral standards are held to be absolute truths, starting most importantly in childhood.

If the target employs the quasi-legalistic sophistry of "informed [[consent]]", [[CSA dilemma argument|give them this dilemma]]. Then point out they are discriminating against and problematizing "sex" like the truest of moralists, but only when it suits their own degenerate worldview.<ref>[https://muslimskeptic.com/2023/03/14/atheists-liberals-pedophilia-bestiality/ Muslim Skeptic: Can Liberal Atheists REALLY Criticize Pedophilia, Bestiality?]</ref> Ask them what special argument they suddenly have against other peoples' idea of good sex, given they are so permitting of their ''own'' right to express kinks and perversions.

There are numerous [[research]] resources and [[Memes and Graphics|factoid memes]] to use on your target when they revert to bigotry and redpilled arguments in their reaction to MAPs trending. The acceptance of MAPs is a natural conclusion of identity politics and social justice theory, so to "own the libs" as they say, just force them to accept their own relative and rational tenets, or swallow their pride.

===Baiting Radfems and Victimological Feminists===

Victimological [[Feminism|Feminists]]' weakness is they are generally icked out at the idea of violent hate, and need to distance themselves from reactionary hate towards MAPs by employing a new victimological argument to support every position. This takes a lot of mental energy, and means they have to redeploy discourse they barely even believe or understand in novel situations. "Feeling" victim feminists are the easiest to wind up this way, just by asking them to justify their argument in yet another situation until something breaks. Radfem extremists such as Anna Slatz are an outlier, since they have a cool exterior, and openly celebrate the killing of pedophiles. These types associate with hard-right reactionaries in the process, and don't care much about being associated with those communities. You are best (if anything) baiting radfems into saying something so absurd liberals can viralize it.

But victimological feminists on the other hand, are constantly "tired", very easily worn down and can be "literally shaking" after 3 rounds with an experienced pedophile apologist. They do not take well to accusations of internalized conservatism, contempt/jealousy towards girls and having pro-MAP, sex-positive feminist literature/lived-experience accounts quoted at them, since it forces them closer to being a radfem. Their main threat to you is scorning ridicule and ducking out of debates they know they cannot win, so be sure to ask them if they even have an answer to a substantive point in your source material.

===Baiting the religious===

With American religious-right fundamentalists, the obvious angle is to play on the (already extreme, and worsening) stereotypes of Christians as possessive and parochial, small-minded inbreeds who treat their children as property. Point to the ironic history of clerical abuse and incestuous family relations among those now outraged by the idea of progressive liberals and gays finally crossing the Rubicon and getting their hands on *other* people's kids. [[BLogo|Even the Pope]] has pedophile logos on his overalls!

If they mention trans kids dismissively, [[Wikipedia:Eunuch|point to the Church's history]] of castrating boys,<ref>See also [[Wikipedia:Eunuchs in the Byzantine Empire|Eunuchs in the Byzantine Empire]] and [https://sci-hub.se/10.1163/157007297X00291 Caner, D. F. (1997). The Practice and Prohibition of Self-Castration in Early Christianity.]</ref> and make a crude comment at how they were doubtless "used".<ref>Cardinal Antonio Barberini and castrato Marc'Antonio Pasqualini is one prominent example, with the tradition spanning back to pre-Christian times</ref> In the case of a God-fearing woman, suggest she is just icked-out at the idea of a boy getting his dick sucked *outside* of sacred walls, where she can't conveniently deny it happens.

'''Embrace Degeneracy!'''

This is not so much a ''Media Matters/Occupy Democrats''-level ''"[[republicans are the real pedophiles]]"'' argument, but an alternative version where the proponent is himself an unrepentant pedophile, surrounded by pedophiles in denial. You should play up and openly celebrate [[MAPocalypse|institutional endorsement of pedophilia]] and Globohomo in general,<ref>[https://glaad.org/globohomo-definition-meaning-anti-lgbt-online-hate/ GLAAD: Globohomo]</ref> for example, one such troll is particularly fond of posting [https://9gag.com/tag/klaus-schwab Klaus Schwab]'s image and variations on his catchphrase - "own nothing and be happy".

===Impersonating [[anti]]s===

One way of starting a viral thread has been to create and season the account of a fake [[anti]] and then tag anti-pedophile influencer accounts when a pedophile or supporter does something outrageous. This gives the troll a degree of control over where and when a piece of controversial pedophile literature is scandalized. In a few instances, PCMA members have been seen to run pedophile trolling accounts alongside fake anti accounts, tagging lists of influencers and then switching their VPN, clearing their cookies and logging back in to their pedophile account to continue trolling up to the point they are banned.

When I was more active inside [[PCMA]], I speculated with the admins over the possibility of running a long-term fake anti account. Most people agreed, shorter-term efforts should be more flagrantly violent and hateful (believe it or not, they are often banned for vigilante activity and harassment). Others were less keen on my idea of posing an "intelligent anti" as a mainstream anti-woke conservative in the mold of James Lindsay. I felt this would add a new dimension to the dedicated anti-pedophile influencer stock, drawing in people who are put off by the violent rhetoric, and more likely to debate over the topic. This could be manipulated by way of discursive entrenchment - an "intelligent anti" account who posed as a one-of-a-kind investigative journalist covering MAPs would be looked up to, and any anti-pedophile arguments or norms he or she criticized could be weakened. For example, our fake anti could start by explaining why consent doxa and evidence-based study of CSA will eventually lead to the normalization of pedophilia, but praise civilizational collapse/moral order type arguments as wise and insightful. Associating traditional, morality-based arguments with intelligent conservatism, and liberal/feminist type consent/power arguments with dumb/violent antis, is an inversion of reality that would be a massive propaganda win for the pedophile.

==Tagging people is the simplest baiting strategy==

In 2022, my alter Jamal Ross used tagging to great effect by [[MAP visibility on Twitter|running two accounts]] that conversed with one another (see gallery for April 18, 2022). I first conducted a detailed study of all the anti-pedo influencers who had spoken up against MAPs over the last 12 months, and others who might just fall for the bait. I used my "naive" pedo apologist account, Andy Parkinson to ask what can be done to avoid courting controversy while continuing to (in effect) normalize pedophilia. I then used my Jamal Ross persona to publish a "shitlist" of such antis, advising him to block the "pedophobes". Of course, this "inadvertently" sends a prompt to each of their accounts, and baits them into sending "bad publicity" to the media-enabled pedo-apologist they believe just caught red-handed. This controversy surpassed 2M impressions and made multiple news stories including Townhall.

You can also run one "pro" and one "anti" account, using the "anti" to drive hordes of chuds to your content by pointing out just how awful, degenerate and woke you are.

==Some in-thread strategies==

These are for consideration, and depend very much on your target opponent and the platform's moderation norms.

===Abrupt and insulting behavior===

Make an entrance, but be sure to respect any language sensitivities/ToS, as this may result in your de-platforming. The politest way to do this is with a myth-and-fact type rebuttal, using a meme and link to a website. If you think you need more impetus (and don't care so much about risking an account ban), you can make personalized insults ''at the start'' of your response, as is the norm on chansites:

*Your opponent is mid-witted, has drunk the kool-aid, has an IQ between 80 and 110.
*They have an "in-group", and uncritically consume supposed "alternative" media within that group. Said media, you will claim, are actually controlled by elites who are part of their "out group" to occupy and distract them with cultural topics.
*They support ideologies that undermine their self-interest, and repeat the talking points of groups hostile to them. Conservatives supporting the un-conservative idea that all women and child accusers should be believed, can be painted as feminist sympathizers; quisling enemies of masculine virtues such as strong leadership. Since #MeToo, this inference has been easier to make.

While a dramatic entrance gets eyeballs moving, you risk coming off as an asshole. So if you are linking to supporting material while making such comments, make that material "authoritative" and "neutral" - i.e. academic, not ballast from some fringe blog or trashy news site associated with your in-group.

====The absurd proposition====

Very much an optional tactic. This is a proposition or counterargument that you can only just about defend within the confines of conventional western logic. Or an absurd, mocking caricature of your opponent's presumed position, taking it to an almost illogical conclusion.

The aim here is to ''pitch an invisible middle ground'' to your actual (non-participant) audience. It's important that you don't defend or source your absurd proposition in your first reply - just throw it out there in all its nakedness, coming across as plausibly dishonest or mocking in tone. When another round of discussion has passed, ''then'' use your source material (which again, should be authoritative). As well as looking ten times cooler (i.e. disinterested), this strategy might also force other people to ask for your citations, as if you had to "put in the work" to find them. This not only makes your source material look more authentic, it pitches said material as the discursive "middle ground" between your absurd proposition and your target's moralfaggotry. The non-participant (your real target) is expecting your reading of this material to be expedient, but will be surprised to find out that it is not wholly inaccurate.

===Identify "copes"===

Earlier on, I suggested a few ways you could "mind read" antis of various shades. Well, identifying [[Wikipedia:Coping|coping strategies]] in your targets is just mind reading based on arguments rather than personal features. It's a frustrating tactic, as it constantly distracts from the debate and puts a burden of presumed mental distortion on your target. Virtually every argument they make can be a "cope" for some kind of mental demon which undermines or renders comical their position.

===Dissing in plain sight===

Instead of responding directly to your target, bad mouth them to another person who is engaging with them. Explain how your target will never come round to their way of thinking, pointing out the causes of their fallacious reasoning and inflexibility. This kind of proxy attack can be very triggering; it reeks of snobbery and forces your target to take the initiative in engaging with you.

==Why "Newgon vols" sometimes infiltrated chan sites and impersonated conservatives==

As explained, the more extreme methods I have described in this essay have been criticized by those who have never employed them; those who would or could employ different methods. While most of my own trolling activity, and that of my volunteers did not employ these methods, I believe the ends justify the means, with respect to impersonating conservatives.

The complaints again, come from a kind of theoretical mental prison, and fail to take full account of the consequences of an action, instead hyper-fixating on a visceral reaction to the methods used. It is this belligerence against our own brothers and sisters that is a threat to unity, not a symbolic slight of some [[Newgon]] volunteers against an illusion, or pipe-dream of ideological coherence.

The complaints are not only overblown, but of course, pig-headed. Many [[The Right-wing and Minor Attraction|MAPs and supporters are in fact conservative]], even former supporters of the far-right. They are a minority within a minority, aggressively invalidated, paraded as "Nazis" and denied safe spaces by some of the more extreme left-wing MAPs, who would seemingly wish to be part of an ever-diminishing ideological clique as they turn on various factions, [[Special_Article:_Anti-c_MAP_Tumblr,_Twitter_and_Fediverse_-_Material_for_Character_Analysis#Hivemind|even within their own camp]]. Right-wing MAPs were even discussed in 2024, on the [[B4U-ACT]] forum, and let's not kid ourselves; as those discussions revealed, there is such a thing as the reformed alt-right, and many of them are already among us. Even taboo political groups we would "never want to recruit from" are most certainly not homogeneous. They can be ''manipulated'' on this topic, ''educated'' on this topic, called to action ''for or against'' this topic, and ultimately serve as reservoirs of future talent in the shape of reformed ex-members.

So what are we to do according to the belligerents? Completely waste this insight and instead adhere to some model of ideological purity? Are we to wage internal war against those who would employ these methods as activists, while affirming and validating those who trans-identify and role-play as Nazis on Mastodon, Matrix and Discord servers? More MAPs and pedophile trolls should impersonate conservatives, not less. Once again, impersonating conservatives ''undermines'' conservative stereotypes of MAPs, ''undermines'' liberal inaction on our topic, and their usual [https://www.map-union.org/blog/fact-check-mu-and-the-map-movement "hoax"] defense.

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History and credits (Debate Guide)

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Debate Guide was started by Daniel Lievre and Raza in May 2006.

In the summer of 2007, it was taken down by Google. Hosting was enhanced to a paid service laid on by the minority provider NearlyFreeSpeech.net, and Debate Guide became a subsection of Newgon.com, where it struggled for some time before being given its own domain, and was eventually absorbed into the Wiki.

The Guide can be credited to the following people:

'''Content:'''

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*'''MAPCrusader''' - 2021+.

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MAP Starting Guide

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A '''“[[Minor Attracted Person|Minor Attracted Person]]”''' ("MAP") is anyone with a romantic or sexual preference for people who have not yet reached the [[Age of Consent]]. The category is broad enough to include even minors themselves, if they develop feelings and practices that can be considered sexual in their general tract between each other. However, this category is fairly new and most people don’t see the difference between ''attraction'' to ''[[minor]]s'' and ''[[pedophilia]]'', which is, itself, charged with great amounts of [[Research: The Dangers of Stigma|stigma]]. Because of that, the self-esteem of minor-attracted people is severely damaged, they hide and develop self-hatred. But it’s important for the minor attracted person to understand that they are not a threat to minors, that their attraction is fine in other cultures and that, putting things that way, attraction to minors isn’t a disease per itself, but is made such by society. That should help minor-attracted people to accept themselves wholeheartedly, to see cultural phenomena as passive of changing, improve understanding of themselves and point to help, if such is needed.

==Introduction==

Try looking up the word “pedophilia” online right now. What you will likely see is a number of news articles about cases of child rape, molestation or worse. However, for a group of people, it is a very narrow picture. I am talking about minor-attracted people. Those people acknowledge that they have feelings for minors, so they are in position to judge what people say about them. And for many minor-attracted people, the news do not reflect who they truly are.

The phenomenon of attraction to minors is too diverse to be adequately described by media outlets. There are minor-attracted people who are pedophiles, but there’s also [[Nepiophilia|nepiophiles]] and [[Hebephilia|hebephiles]]. There are minor-attracted people who feel that their attraction, despite being illegal, does not need to be illegal, but others prefer things to stay the way they are. And most interestingly, there are minors who are attracted to much younger minors, not to mention minors who are attracted to same-age peers.

The problem is that media outlets, by spreading misinformation, makes many minor-attracted people feel isolated or despaired. They do not see themselves in the monsters portrayed in the news. So, if you are law-abiding and attracted to minors, you might think that you are one of a few or that you would soon end up breaking the law. That causes feelings of despair. Yet, that despair is grounded on a false assumption: that all minor-attracted people are active or potential criminals.

That being said, looking up information about attraction to minors in general and pedophilia in particular can be a very painful and fruitless activity. The goal of this text is to provide accurate information about attraction to minors to minor-attracted people themselves, in order to make them feel more at an ease, while stressing the need to stay law-abiding. The first section tries to define attraction to minors, the second tries to explain the difference between thoughts and actions. Hopefully, after reading this, you will be able to sleep well. Because the text has minor-attracted people are audience, I will write in second person.

==Attraction to minors==

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Being attracted to minors is having an erotic attachment to people who are not yet adults. Because “minor” is a cultural term, not a biological one, such as “child”, there’s no universal age for one to be called a “minor”, even though, in most Western societies, you are only an adult at age 18.

*Attraction to babies is called ''nepiophilia'',
*attraction to prepubescent children is called ''pedophilia'',
*attraction to pubescent minors and adolescents is called ''hebephilia'',
*attraction to postpubescent adolescents is called ''ephebophilia''.

Out of those, only pedophilia (and, by extension, nepiophilia) is considered a mental disorder, according to the International Classification of Diseases and the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual of Mental Disorders, but ''only as long as'' the pedophile is markedly distressed by the feelings or if he has acted according to the impulse.

That being said, a pedophile is not necessarily mentally ill, depending on how well the pedophile deals with his feelings. The reason why hebephilia and ephebophilia are not considered disorders, even when acted out, is because they are much more common and accepted, as you will see in the section age of consent and culture.

While minor-attracted people differ in “ages of attraction”, they also differ according to political position. The age of consent is a law. Positioning yourself as favorable or against a law is a political position. There are pedophiles who are favorable to age of consent reform and there are those who are not. Minor-attracted people who are favorable to lowering or abolishing the age of consent are often called “pro-contact”, "pro-choice" or “pro-consent” ([[pro-c]]). Those who are favorable to leaving the age of consent as it is or raising it are often called “[[anti-contact]]”.

Those labels aren’t indicative of offender status: a person can be pro-contact and law-abiding. Being law-abiding is often called being “non-offending”.

One could ask why would you, for example, adopt either particular stance on the age of consent. While those who are pro-contact argue that some minor-adult relationships, sexual or not, could be harmless or even beneficial, in a way that it would be more fair if those relationships were judged on a case-by-case basis (see quote by “Trevor” in Rivas, 2016, page 92).

Those who are anti-contact argue that harm still happens and that it could be devastating or that, even if those relationships could be harmless and positively recalled, they are still immoral, as the consent given by the minor can always be called into question. The mere fact that such debate exists within minor-attracted communities should serve to dispel the prejudice that people who are sexually attracted to minors are always unethical.

Because sexuality includes several interpersonal elements and a dynamic between the person who desires and the desired person, something that is observed even in adolescents (if there are minor-attracted adolescents, then what is in Drury & Bukowsky, 2013, page 128 and 129 applies here too), then it’s safe to say that sexual attraction is a feature of a wider erotic response that includes feelings of love (for a personal account by a pedophile, see O’Carroll, 1980, chapter 1). It is unlikely that you would defend either position disregarding minor’s safety and feelings.

It’s also worth noting that minor-attracted people aren’t always adults: most minor-attracted people feel their first attraction to a minor at age 12. That means that there are minors who also are pedophiles or hebephiles, for example. How would a person who hates minor attracted people as a consequence of their desire to protect children respond to this? Protecting children implies protecting minor-attracted children and adolescents too. So, hating minor-attracted people in general is not something that can be conciliated with the desire to protect children in general.

==Causes==

The causes of attraction to minors aren’t clear. It seems to be ''first noticed in adolescence and is resistant to change''. Considering that even children are sexual beings and that they have sexual play among each other (for examples of childhood sexual activity, see Campbell et al, 2013, pages 154 to 157), one could think that the problem regarding attraction to minors resides in the fact that the person, when growing up, continues to be attracted to them, but it is not always like that: some people notice that they are preferably attracted to minors late in life as well.

For a while, it was thought that having sexual contacts with an adult would cause the younger person to grow up as a MAP or pedophile. That line of thought is called “abused-abuser cycle theory” and is currently being ''contested''. There seems to be no necessary link between having sexual contacts in childhood/youth and growing up attracted to children/minors, specially if such contact is regarded as negative.

The only thing that can be said is that attraction to minors in general and pedophilia in particular are not choices, with a handful of researchers claiming that pedophilia could be a ''sexual orientation''. While that does not warrant that minor-adult sex should be legal, that does mean that, if pedophiles do not choose their condition and that changing such condition is not possible, hating them for that alone is unfair. You are not responsible for the ''feelings'' you have, but only for your ''actions''.

==Characteristics==

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Minor-attracted people often notice their first attraction to minors at around age 12. The feelings they have come in three levels:

*caring,
*romantic, and
*sexual

''On the first level'', you may have urges to care for the young, offer guidance (see article found in the New York Post, 2007, quoted in Rivas, 2016, pages 113 to 115), protect and be available for their needs. That would help to explain why so many sex scandals involve people in positions of guidance, such as priests or teachers.

''On the second level'', the urge is to have emotional bonding (Rivas, 2016, page 264).

''On the third level'', the desires are geared towards what we would call “molestation”, in legal terms: touching, caressing, fondling, acts that are more often centered on the younger person (see quote by D. J. West, in O’Carroll, 1980, chapter 3).

It has been pointed in literature that, at least when it comes to pedophiles (not including hebephiles or ephebophiles), penetration is a rare feature of sexual contact with minors.

Considering that those sexual feelings may coexist with loving feelings, it seems natural that pedophiles, as people attracted to prepubescent children, would refrain from penetrative activity, as it would be both painful and probably degrading for the child (see O’Carroll, 1980, chapter 6, where he explains why there should be an age of consent for certain penetrative acts).

However, as implied by the two first attraction tiers (care and romance), you probaby would not feel gratification if the child or adolescent is unwilling. The laymen could then ask “what about the cases of child rape that we see on television?” It is now known that most people arrested for sex with minors do not fulfill the diagnostic criteria for pedophilia. In laymen terms, that means that ''most people who are prosecuted for sex with kids are not pedophiles'' in the first place.

There are several reasons for a person to have sex with minors and pedophilia is just one of them. The person could have sex with a minor for experimentation, revenge, desire to cause pain, intoxication, jailbaiting, mental disorder or, in extreme, rare cases, minor-on-adult rape.

If only a minority of those people on television are real pedophiles, laymen are supposed to be more worried about “normal” people abusing their children. If an abuser really could be “anyone”, it’s now known that it seldom is a pedophile.

Finally, considering the social impact of those relationships and the caring and romantic feelings that coexist with the sexual feelings, it is not a surprise that many minor-attracted people choose to remain celibate towards children and adolescents (the classical example is the relationship between Alice Liddell and [[Charles Dodgson|Lewis Carroll]], as seen in Rivas, 2016, pages 247 and 248).

==Is there a treatment or cure?==

Whether attraction to minors is a sexual orientation or a disorder, it is resistant to change. We know that aversion therapy, once used as an attempt to change homosexual attraction into a heterosexual one, does not work. In fact, aversion therapy was equaled to punishment, of the cruel and unusual kind, by Leinwand. Such punishment was also applied to pedophiles in the past. Aversion therapy techniques include electric shock, vomit induction, high-frequency buzzing noises and other unpleasant stimuli while, at same time, also given to that person something that sexually arouses them (see footnotes in O’Carroll, 1980, chapter 4).

If attraction to minors can not be changed, the best we can do is to help minor-attracted people to stay law-abiding while improving the quality of their life. When you are isolated or has the feeling of “having nothing else to lose”, you are more prone to offend.

That means that isolating minor-attracted people from society is not helpful to the goals of society, nor to your goals of staying non-offending. With that in mind, the therapeutic group ''[[B4U-ACT|B4U-ACT]] does not advocate treatment that aims to “cure” you'', especially because B4U-ACT ''does not see attraction to minors as an illness''. Therapists who work with B4U-ACT are supposed to stick to humane treatment, focused on your well-being, which does lessen the chances of offense.

==Feelings and actions==
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Feeling attraction to minors is different from acting on such attraction. To make an analogy, several people have urges to do illegal things: to murder or beat up a person they dislike, to experiment with illicit drugs or playing illicit games. However, having those feelings do not guarantee that a person would act on those urges. Nonetheless, people are entitled to their fantasies. Same goes for you.

In Japan, cartoon child pornography, in the form of lolicon/shotacon manga, is tolerated. But the availability of such pornography (as with any pornography) does not seem to increase Japan’s rates of child sexual abuse at all (Diamond & Uchiyama, 1999, page 10).

In fact, both United States and United Kingdom, two territories that are very invested in fighting pedophilia, a''ppear in the list of the five countries with highest rates of child sexual abuse''. How come?

In a study about the presence of pornography and it’s correlation with sex crime rates, it was found out that Czech Republic had lower rates of child sexual abuse after legalizing possession of child pornography (Diamond et al, 2011, page 1039).

While that does not warrant that child pornography should be legal, that could mean that the presence of child pornography makes pedophiles in particular less prone to seek encounters with real children.

That explains why the rates of child sexual abuse are low in Japan, but high in United States: Japan allows pedophiles to have an outlet for their feelings, giving them safe discharge. Provided that such outlet is ''manga'', real children do not have to participate in the production at all. Because of that, there is some research being done in the subject of ''virtual reality'' child pornography, which would serve the same purpose.

Even if no outlet is given, no one can take away their right to fantasize. As long as you find a way to have legal sexual relief, the proneness to break the law would be lower. Also, there are other forms of expression that are not sexually explicit. For example, a “boy love” novel was published on in 2018. It was not the first book of it’s kind and probably will not be last. Another example would be the movie ''I Love You, Daddy'', released in 2017.

The existence of legal fiction works with such themes shows that sublimation of the desire through artistic work is also possible and it can also be done in an acceptable, legal and even profitable way. It is also worth noting that such works may very well be done by people who are not even themselves attracted to minors.

==Age of consent and culture==

The volatility of laws makes them unsuitable to defining what is sick and what is not, even though they can dictate what is socially acceptable and what is not. This is an important issue to touch for the well-being of minor-attracted people, because part of the shame they feel over their feelings comes from the fact that many forms of attraction to minors are illegal in their territory.

Age of consent varies across cultures, that is, across time and place. The first ages of consent were very low. In United States, for example, the age of consent used to be 7 in Delaware. Societal movements, especially feminism (see, for example, Sandfort, 1987, chapter 1), played a role in changing that picture.

But even today, ages of consent can be very low in other places:

*the lowest age of consent in Japan is 13,
*the age of consent in Brazil is 14 nationwide
*and it is 12 in Philippines.

See list by country, on [[Wikipedia:Ages of consent by country|Wikipedia]].

The case of Brazil is specially interesting because the age of consent in Brazil was 16 in 1920, it is currently 14 and there was a proposal to lower it to 12 in this very decade, following, among other things, the discovery that it was interfering with teenage romances. So, from the countries I just mentioned, Brazil shows a tendency to lower it’s age of consent as time passes by.

There are also countries with no age of consent, but have minimum age limits for marriage, which also can be pretty low. Those countries frequently impose constraints on sexual activity in order to keep it inside marriage. So, in some countries, if you are married, age disparity does not matter. Last, in indigenous isolated cultures, such law may also be absent (for several examples of such tribes, see O’Carroll, 1980, chapter 2).

Finally, there have been initiatives against the very concept of age of consent, such as the party programme of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB-PCC), which listed, as one of it’s immediate demands, the abolishment of age of consent laws and the elaboration of alternative legislation against child sexual abuse, [[Communism|until the early 2020s]].

That means that having romantic or sexual affairs with minors is not always illegal, depending on your context. If you were born in the right place, at the right time, your attraction would be tolerated, accepted or even cherished. It is not like they are sick; they were just born in the wrong culture. Putting things in this perspective, if you feel bad for having urges to do illegal things, despite the fact that many of us have feelings of that nature, you could consider moving to a place where the age of consent is lower or nonexistent.

==Statistics and anecdotes==
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But lower ages of consent imply that relationships at a certain age may not be violent. That prompts the question about wether sexual contact before the age of consent is always harmful or not. Can relationships between adults and minors ever work? Statistical and anecdotal evidence shows that intergenerational relationships are not consistently harmful. If precocious sexual contact was always harmful, the age of consent would variate less. Plus, if that was the case, age of consent would be a much older law, like the laws against murder, violence, rape and robbery.

The consideration of positively recalled precocious sexual contact would not be included in this document if it was not recorded in literature that knowing of such information could ''improve'' the minor-attracted person’s self-esteem. But a discussion about positively experienced minor-adult sexual intimacy can not be had without considering the reasons for the prohibition.

Evidence fails to demonstrate the belief that minor-adult sexual intimacy is always harmful. Some of those contacts are recalled as positive. One of the books used as reference for this text is Rivas’ Positive Memories, which compiles anecdotes of positively recalled, voluntary sexual contacts between minors no older than 15 with adults no younger than 18 (Rivas, 2016, page 9).

Those anecdotes were extracted from other works, such as biographies, news articles, scientific papers and others. The sources can be found in the book’s bibliography. Other compilations are available elsewhere.

Some [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|studies that could be used]] to prove the existence of non-violent intergenerational relationships are out there. A few of them that I can mention are:

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*[[Media:Rindbasics.pdf|Rind, 2022]];
*[https://nsuworks.nova.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1135&context=cps_stuetd Daly, 2021];
*Arreola et al, 2008;
*Arreola et al, 2009;
*Bauserman & Rind, 1997;
*Carballo-Diéguez et al, 2011;
*Condy et al, 1987;
*Dolezal et al, 2014;
*[[Allie_C._Kilpatrick|Kilpatrick]], 1987;
*Lahtinen et al, 2018;
*Leahy, 1996;
*Mulya, 2018;
*Rind, 2001;
*Rind, 2016;
*Rind & Tromovitch, 1997;
*Rind & Welter, 2013;
*Rind & Welter, 2016;
*Rind et al, 1998;
*Sandfort, 1984;
*Sandfort, 1987;
*Tindall, 1978;
*Ulrich et al, 2005-2006;
*Wet et al, 2018.

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You may notice that some of those studies are fairly recent, while others are ancient. It would be interesting to check them if you would like to read more on the subject.

But it’s not my goal to expose the data that was gathered by those researchers. It’s also worth mentioning that none of those studies take a definite pro-legalization stance (despite acknowledging the fact that some of those relationships are recalled as positive by the children/minors and that they weren’t harmed by the contact, which often causes the younger partner to not disclose the incident, Lahtinen et al, 2018, only concludes that disclosure should be more stimulated, not that adult/minor sexual contact should be made legal).

If intergenerational relationships can be positive, why is minor-adult sexual contact still illegal? The answer relies on informed consent. The belief that minors can not consent seems to be the only reason why those contacts are still considered always abuse (see citation by Archard, in Jahnke et al, 2017, page 3).

But what does it mean “to consent” in this context, as many of those contacts are regarded as “voluntary” by the supposed victim?

'''Informed consent''' is needed when risk is present: whenever you are about to do something dangerous, you need to be aware of the consequences of an act and must be able to do a free decision on wether to take the risk or not (see Lavin, 2013, page 5).

Sex is regarded as risky, in the sense of potentially harmful. If sex is potentially harmful, everyone who engages in sexual practices must give informed consent, that is, must be aware of the consequences and be able to take a free stance on taking the risk or not.

The problem with minor-adult sexual contact is that, while some adults are not fully aware of the consequences of their acts and while power imbalance is inherent to human relationships, minors are both ignorant of the consequences and in a position of social disadvantage towards the entire society.

Informed consent is based either on information or favorable power dynamics and neither thing is present for the younger partner in such a relationship. And that also explains why age of consent varies across cultures: different countries have different attitudes towards sex, more or less informed youth, and wider or narrower extent of children’s rights. So, when someone says “children can not consent”, what they are saying, in functionalist terms is:

# Minors are not informed enough to give a valid consent to sexual relationships that are inherently unequal, and;
# This issue is important because sex is risky, that is, potentially harmful.

Because giving consent to an act without information on the consequences is a null choice and because giving consent in a situation where you can not really say “no” (as a dangerous adult could attempt to force the minor if consent is denied) is also null, the minor’s consent is null. It doesn’t matter if the younger person said yes: if their consent is null, the act is equivalent to rape, even if just in purely legal terms (hence the term “statutory rape”). That is the rationale behind informed consent and the reason why minor-adult sexual contact remains illegal. Even the act was genuinely freely engaged in and even if no harm, but only benefit, resulted from the act, it was still immoral.

Even if there is positively recalled minor-adult sexual contact and even if anecdotal evidence shows that there are minors craving such encounters, the act, when discovered, will cause damage to both parties of the relationship. I reiterate that acting on those desires in a cultural context that is disapproving of such conduct is a display of irresponsibility.

Pro-contact minor-attracted people are interested in changing the laws (see Sandfort, 1987, chapter 3 for an example of attempted age of consent reform in the Netherlands), but should not be interested in breaking the laws, not only because of their own safety, but also because of how the younger partner might respond to the intervention (for an anecdote on how societal intervention alone can harm both adult and minor, see Rivas, 2016, pages 27 to 32).

==Conclusion==

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If you will not necessarily commit any crime, if most people who perpetrate sexual offenses against minors are not pedophiles in the first place and if such attractions have been, are and could be acceptable depending on cultural context, then you have no reason to feel ill. If that is all that you needed to hear or read, you could drop the issue altogether and stop caring about it, as it is the charge that is attributed to the feelings, rather than the feelings themselves, that cause the shame and the guilt. That implies that society makes you feel ill, not the feelings that are present in you.

If that is the case, you could use some company to at least cope with the feeling of isolation. There are legal communities online and offline that minor-attracted people can rely on, to exchange experiences and have guidance from people who share the attraction.

B4U-ACT has a peer support group, for example. Other [[Minor attracted community|communities]] such as:

* [[Pediverse]]
* [[BoyChat|Boychat]]/[[Girlchat]],
* [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[B4U-ACT]] and
* the [[JORis]] groups (these are the last IRL ones in the Netherlands)

Out of those, only Virtuous Pedophiles has strict requirements for membership, as the person who joins their group needs to also be anti-contact. B4U-ACT, Boychat/Girlchat and the JORis groups do not have such requirement.

As B4U-ACT wants to reach as many minor-attracted people as possible, it does make sense that it would not push any particular view on the contact issue: when the Paedophile Information Exchange operated in the United Kingdom, it’s pro-c activism pushed some members away (O’Carroll, 1980, chapter 11).

When it comes to such a delicate topic, support groups and political activism are tough to conciliate, if not impossible, especially when it comes to pro-c views.

That being said, if a support group for minor-attracted people wants to reach as many people possible, being “contact neutral” is a good idea, as both pro-choice and anti-contact minor-attracted people would attend to it, while the organization itself would take no particular stance on the issue, keeping itself safe.

JORis and B4U-ACT also hold real life meetings on occasion, but, while the JORis Groups tries to be a support group where people can introduce themselves and talk about their struggles to receive peer support, the real life meetings held by B4U-ACT are academic in nature and researchers also participate. While people attend to B4U-ACT’s meetings on their own, some people are referred to the JORis by the justice system.

Not viewing attraction to minors as something negative and having others who understand and listen is crucial for the well being of minor-attracted people, avoiding a dreaded mindset of “having nothing to lose”, which would make the minor-attracted people prone to desperate actions, such as suicide. If people hate minor-attracted people because it is believed that they always offend the law and all of those who offend the law are attracted to minors, then there is no reason to hate them, as that belief is demonstrably wrong. They are not worth hating. In fact, if you are non-offending, you pass as perfectly “normal”. A lot of people are probably friends with at least one person like you.

To dispel the prejudices that exist regarding minor-attracted people, one solution could be [[coming out]] (see article for advice on this subject). It can be safer to “come out” online (especially if you know how to separate your online from your public, real life identity) and some have done so on Facebook, [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]], Youtube, WordPress, Tumblr, Medium and so on. The prejudice against minor-attracted people only exists because people can say whatever they wish about a silent minority.

How many minor-attracted people are out there? The lowest guess, according to B4U-ACT’s facts page, is 600.000 adults, only counting United States. How many exist in other countries? Are all those people bad?

==References==

See [https://www.ipce.info/sites/ipce.info/files/biblio_attachments/yure_maps_refs.pdf Ipce's PDF].

Our own [[research]] pages cover much of the information detailed in this piece in more detail.

==Notes==

[[Category:Advice]]

Gemma Ahearne

2025-02-27T22:43:58Z

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__NOTOC__[[File:G-ahearne.png|thumb|Gemma Ahearne <small>(Gareth Jones)</small>]]
'''Dr Gemma Ahearne''' is a British sex-worker activist, who professes of "21 years experience of the sex industry",<ref name="ahearneblog">[https://plasticdollheads.wordpress.com/2014/09/23/conferences-teaching-publications/ Plasticdollheads - Gemma Ahearne Bio]</ref> and also happens to be highly active in expressing her emotional disgust towards the concept of [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]] on [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]]. Ahearne holds post as an academic (Lecturer in Criminology at the [[Wikipedia:University of Liverpool|University of Liverpool]]). Various contributions made by Dr Ahearne, a self-professed Christian, appear to mirror the talking points of American [[Grooming|Conspiracy-Conservative]] figureheads, a group with whom she does not actively associate.

Trading on her mental strengths as a dyslexic, and specializing in a "[[Trauma Informed Approach]]",<ref name="ahearneblog" /> Ahearne is also a social media personality in her own right, with almost 10,000 followers as of early 2023.

==Outbursts==

[[File:Ahearne.png|thumb|<small>Gemma Ahearne's husband, Mike (right, courtesy ''Mirror''), was once considered a household name after taking part in a popular UK game show where members of the public face off against a series of steroidal athletes in "grueling physical challenges". Nicknamed "Warrior", he fell from grace after it was later revealed he passed money on to a corrupt police officer in an attempt to foil a prosecution. He has since been involved in a string of controversies, including being found with a "[[Wikipedia:Tesco|Tesco bag]] full of steroids".<ref>''[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8821601/Former-Gladiators-star-Mike-Ahearne-caught-Tesco-bags-steroids-CS-spray-canisters.html Shamed ex-Gladiator Warrior, 59, was found with 'Tesco bags full of steroids and CS spray canisters' when police raided his home, court hears]'' and ''[https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/ex-gladiators-star-told-we-14258647 Ex Gladiators star told 'we will stab you in the neck' by gang demanding cash]''</ref></small>]]Ahearne's level of preoccupation with MAPs rivals that of colleagues such as [[Michael Salter]], an academic with whom she sometimes discusses [[Child Sexual Abuse]] related topics, and who [[Prostasia Foundation]] has described as a [[Wikipedia:Satanic Panic|Satanic Ritual Abuse]] revivalist. Prior to receiving a tip about Dr Ahearne (Twitter account '''@princessjack'''), Newgon were aware of her online activities by way of casual interaction on Twitter threads. However, what we were ''not'' aware of, was the ''sheer volume'' of Ahearne's [[Wikipedia:Streisand effect|awareness-raising efforts]] on a subject it appears she has barely attempted to understand (frequently failing to grasp basic definitions), and has never published on.

===Gallery: An "isolated critic"===

Dr Ahearne appears to be an isolated critic of the [[MAP Movement]] (if such a thing is even possible), since her professed opposition to [[othering]], [[purity culture]], [[slut-shaming]]<ref>[https://www.spreaker.com/user/thesociologyshow/gemmaahe Sociology Pod with Gemma Ahearne]</ref> and the right-wing press pits her ''against'' those who have most commonly employed the same arguments as her. For example, Dr Ahearne has argued that MAPs are attempting to join the [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|LGBT Community]], and bizarrely claims that "Sex Worker Organizations" have "allowed Paedophile groups [...] to co-opt and support campaigns against online harms". Dr Ahearne dismisses the idea of [[pedophilia]] as a [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|legitimate sexual identity]] (failing to distinguish [[Hebephilia]] in the case of MAPs), and has described [[Prostasia Foundation]] as a "Pedophile Organization" - a statement that is factually incorrect. She has scare-quoted "non-offending" in the case of pedophiles, stating that it is desirable that society stigmatizes (i.e. "others") them. Ahearne uses [[Alfred Kinsey]] as an example of pedophile apologia in academia, and [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]]/[[NAMBLA]] as examples of the movement itself.

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==Commentary==

'''Jim Burton''': Newgon.net.

<blockquote>''In compiling this biography, it should be noted that Gemma Ahearne is not the '''only''' example of an academic (or, indeed, [[List of anti-MAP quotes|professional]]) who, against their better judgment, chooses to opine on an adjacent subject they understand very little about. But hers is perhaps a telling example of how hypocritical and misguided beliefs about stigmatizing an entire class of people, can cloud the judgment of those who should know better. In Dr Ahearne's case, this is most unfortunate, as there are viable (and valid) criticisms of MAPs as a scientific paradigm. For example, one could take the [[Bruce Rind]] angle of criticizing "concept validity" (as he does with CSA). There is no particular reason that a scientific investigation should regard attraction to those of '''legal''' minority as a [[chronophilia]] or sexuality. MAP Researchers would in turn counter that they are simply using a broad term as a catch-all for dark-field samples of volunteer participants whose composition is not a constant, and is hard to determine. The valuable "novelty" of the data, they would argue, is providing them with something similar to Evelyn Hooker's pioneering investigations<ref>[https://www.apa.org/ed/precollege/ptn/2018/05/society-accept-homosexuality APA: How psychology has helped society accept homosexuality]</ref> into homosexuality. At the same time, these samples are far from representative of people who find themselves preferentially attracted to minor youth, so "MAP" as a scientific (rather than political) paradigm is certainly imperfect.''</blockquote>

==References==

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Newgon Support Team

2025-02-27T22:41:10Z

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__NOTOC__The '''Newgon Support Team''' is a group of volunteer administrators, moderators and associates who may fund [[Newgon]], add to its resources and keep it on-line. We do have an option to [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|donate Monero]] for those who wish to support us.

==Administrators, Editorial, Tactical and Communications Leads==

===Editorial Lead - Overall===

The editor makes '''outward facing''' decisions concerning wiki structure, and content. While not an administrator, or owner of the site itself, he/she plays a major role in implementing these decisions and managing content.

'''[[User:The Admins|Jim Burton]]''' - [https://www.yesmap.net/contact Email] - Has been involved in some form since the beginning, initially helping with hosting in an unnamed capacity.

===Editorial Team===

====Editorial Lead: Social Justice and Cultural Affairs====

'''[[User:The Admins|Jim Burton]]''' as above.

====Editorial Lead: Psychology and Science Communication====

'''[[User:Thorn|Thorn]]'''

====Editorial Lead: Social History and Critical Theory====

'''[[User:Prue|Prue]]'''

====Editorial Lead: Quantitative Research and Public Health====

Position vacant.

====Editorial Lead: Hostile parties and Counterintelligence====

Position vacant.

===Tactical Operations===

Initiatives funded and supported by us carry out tactical, public facing operations, such as countering misinformation.

At this point, we have no dedicated '''Strategist''' or '''Head of Tactical Interventions''', nor do we have a '''Community Administrator'''. Within our community, these roles are sometimes filled by individuals who are unaffiliated with the organization.

===Public and Community Liaison===

These roles have '''Community Outreach''' purviews (initiating and maintaining links with other communities). At this point, we have no dedicated '''Head of PR''', although that position is open to applicants.

====Men’s Movement Community Outreach Ambassador====

'''Eivind Berge ([http://eivindberge.blogspot.com/ blog])'''.

====Fediverse Community Outreach Ambassador====

Position vacant. Such positions, including regular participants in secular-rationalist fora, zoosexual, manga/erotic fiction fora and youth rights fora are also vacant and open to applicants.

===Back-end (private)===

Newgon.net and projects supported by Newgon have a small, part-time hosting and tech team who are not affiliated with the organization, and are not contactable. Our financial operations are also team-managed.

==Support==

None of these people are affiliated with Newgon Organization unless stated otherwise.

===Additional Content Providers===

May or not have admin privileges, but do not officially fill those roles. Some may be alternative names used for privacy.

'''[[User:JohnHolt|JohnHolt]] (identity occasionally used by Jim Burton) | [[User:Loli|Loli]] | [[User:MAPCrusader|MAPCrusader]] | [[User:Time Has Passed|Time Has Passed]] | [[User:Mark Redcliff|Marc Redcliff]] | [[User:YouthRightsActivist|YRA]] | [[User:Jessi|Jessi]] | [[User:Patroclus|Patroclus]] | [[User:Dissident2|Dissident2]]'''

==Previous==

===Admins===

'''Daniel Lievre''' (inactive ex admin/founder who used various names) | '''Jillium''' | '''Pantheadoros''' | '''Silence Dogood''' | '''DreamBoy71''' | '''Strato'''

===Writers/Content - Non-affiliated===

'''[[Steve Diamond]]''' | '''[[Octaevius Altair|Viamund]]''' | '''Matt''' | '''Tyciol''' | '''BLueRibbon''' | '''PiedPiper''' | '''Innormal''' | '''Zufolek''' | '''CJ Wilmot''' | '''PiedPiper''' | '''Crake''' | '''Jamie''' | '''Roman Czyborra''' | '''Catherine N.X.''' | '''Stephen James''' | '''Raven''' | '''Reid Bailey''' | '''Raza''' | '''Boeotia''' (French language support) | "Anonymous" - a few people use throwaway names for Newgon.

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Cyber Activism]]

Newgon Support Team

2025-02-27T22:38:56Z

The Admins:

__NOTOC__The '''Newgon Support Team''' is a group of volunteer administrators, moderators and associates who may fund [[Newgon]], add to its resources and keep it on-line. We do have an option to [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|donate Monero]] for those who wish to support us.

==Administrators, Editorial, Tactical and Communications Leads==

===Editorial Lead - Overall===

The editor makes '''outward facing''' decisions concerning wiki structure, and content. While not an administrator, or owner of the site itself, he/she plays a major role in implementing these decisions and managing content.

'''[[User:The Admins|Jim Burton]]''' - [https://www.yesmap.net/contact Email] - Has been involved in some form since the beginning, initially helping with hosting in an unnamed capacity.

===Editorial Team===

====Editorial Lead: Social Justice and Cultural Affairs====

'''[[User:The Admins|Jim Burton]]''' as above.

====Editorial Lead: Psychology and Science Communication====

'''[[User:Thorn|Thorn]]'''

====Editorial Lead: Social History and Critical Theory====

'''[[User:Prue|Prue]]'''

====Editorial Lead: Quantitative Research and Public Health====

Position vacant.

====Editorial Lead: Hostile parties and Counterintelligence====

Position vacant.

===Tactical Operations===

Initiatives funded and supported by us carry out tactical, public facing operations, such as countering misinformation.

At this point, we have no dedicated '''Strategist''' or '''Head of Tactical Interventions''', nor do we have a '''Community Administrator'''. Within our community, these roles are sometimes filled by individuals who are unaffiliated with the organization.

===Public and Community Liaison===

These roles have '''Community Outreach''' purviews (initiating and maintaining links with other communities). At this point, we have no dedicated '''Head of PR''', although that position is open to applicants.

====Men’s Movement Community Outreach Ambassador====

'''Eivind Berge ([http://eivindberge.blogspot.com/ blog])'''.

====Fediverse Community Outreach Ambassador====

Position vacant. Such positions, including regular participants in secular-rationalist fora, zoosexual, manga/erotic fiction fora and youth rights fora are also vacant and open to applicants.

===Back-end (private)===

Newgon.net and projects supported by Newgon have a small, part-time hosting and tech team who are not affiliated with the organization, and are not contactable. Our financial operations are also team-managed.

==Support==

None of these people are affiliated with Newgon Organization unless stated otherwise.

===Additional Content Providers===

May or not have admin privileges, but do not officially fill those roles. Some may be alternative names used for privacy.

'''[[User:JohnHolt|JohnHolt]] (identity occasionally used by the Strategic lead) | [[User:Loli|Loli]] | [[User:MAPCrusader|MAPCrusader]] | [[User:Time Has Passed|Time Has Passed]] | [[User:Mark Redcliff|Marc Redcliff]] | [[User:YouthRightsActivist|YRA]] | [[User:Jessi|Jessi]] | [[User:Patroclus|Patroclus]] | [[User:Dissident2|Dissident2]]'''

==Previous==

===Admins===

'''Daniel Lievre''' (inactive ex admin/founder who used various names) | '''Jillium''' | '''Pantheadoros''' | '''Silence Dogood''' | '''DreamBoy71''' | '''Strato'''

===Writers/Content - Non-affiliated===

'''[[Steve Diamond]]''' | '''[[Octaevius Altair|Viamund]]''' | '''Matt''' | '''Tyciol''' | '''BLueRibbon''' | '''PiedPiper''' | '''Innormal''' | '''Zufolek''' | '''CJ Wilmot''' | '''PiedPiper''' | '''Crake''' | '''Jamie''' | '''Roman Czyborra''' | '''Catherine N.X.''' | '''Stephen James''' | '''Raven''' | '''Reid Bailey''' | '''Raza''' | '''Boeotia''' (French language support) | "Anonymous" - a few people use throwaway names for Newgon.

[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Cyber Activism]][[Category:Cyber Activism]]

Newgon

2025-02-27T22:27:04Z

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__NOTOC__[[Image:Nheadsmall.png|frame|Original 2007 Logo]]'''Newgon Organization''' (aka '''Newgon''', primary benefactor of the '''Yesmap''' server) is an informal activist organization first set up at '''Newgon.com''' by '''Daniel Lievre''' and '''Jillium''' on Jun 8, 2007. Newgon, which has few official affiliates and no membership register, was founded after Google's [[censorship]] campaign against a number of [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]] blogging [[Blogger censorship|sites]], and was most active until around 2010 and again after 2021.

The organization's purpose is to produce concise information resources relating to MAPs and minor-adult sex, for the use of online guerilla activists and trolls. It has also hosted forums for general discussion of these themes, private forums to organize information campaigns, and helped organize groups of MAPs and allies who seek to raise awareness online. Newgon is not presently active in off-site awareness raising, and only conducts publishing activities.

The organization's projects are maintained by the [[Newgon Support Team]]. Any websites it publishes or funds are registered and hosted with high-end freedom of speech providers and proxying services for the purpose of privacy. '''Newgon.net''' points to the informational wiki you are currently reading, along with an archived [[Uncommon Sense|webmagazine/blog]]. '''Yesmap.net''' also points to projects supported by Newgon.

For most of its lifespan, the organization has employed an official color scheme of navy, azure and yellow in most of its materials.

==Gallery==

:''See also the gallery in [[MAP visibility on Twitter]], for a small selection of campaigns that are sometimes Newgon-related, by way of their spawning on servers funded by the organization.''

<gallery>
File:TNWNewgon.png|TNW's 2012 investigation
File:Newgontwt.jpg|Original May 2022 Twitter Account
File:Zoostrugnewgon.png|Reaction to the original account
File:NewgonOrg.png|Typical content that followed
File:Groomingnewgon.png|Various people on social media have expressed concern about the information scheme emanating from Newgon
File:NewgonAug22.png|Newgon's 2nd Twitter account (Aug 2022) arrived with a challenge that Twitter ultimately refused
File:Newgondeace.png|Organizational account addresses the unusual family history of a conservative journalist who tweeted approvingly about killing pedophiles
File:Mastodon-newgon.png|Professor Newgonsky almost becomes a meme on [[Anti-contact|Anti-c]] Mastodon
File:Newgonconspiracy.png|<small>Paranoid polemicist and third-tier academic, [[Alaric Naudé]] has used an influence diagram to explain how he believes that Newgon is part of a "pedophilia normalization movement" connected to Disney and [[Michel Foucault]].</small>
File:Newgonnaude.png|In late 2022, Naudé, and the conservative feminist/"gay" assimilationist front-group, ''[[Gays Against Groomers]]'' were involved in an outrage campaign against Newgon<ref>[https://archive.is/oyLMR MAPs against Groomers account]</ref>
File:Org2007.png|An organizational account was created again, especially for Naude
File:Newgongag.png|It later thanked Gays Against Groomers for their help publicizing the website, and then trolled them with Bill Maher quotes
File:Clapback.jpg|One of various initiatives in 2023
File:50724.png|Misinformation shared on the doxxing site KiwiFarms in 2023
File:Littleplace.png|2024 [[pediverse]] Newgon parody
</gallery>

==Potted history==

[[File:Arrests Reported in the United States.png|thumb|Newgon is widely understood to be a headless resistance effort, but sometimes humorously congratulates itself for drastic reductions in sexual offending arrests and convictions]]
'''Daniel Lievre''', a homosexual [[Ephebophilia|ephebophile]], states that in 2005, his interest was piqued by a mention of [[NAMBLA]] on '''Rotten.com''' an old-fashioned, now defunct website featuring comment threads on shocking and bizarre content. He found out about [[Vereniging MARTIJN]] after some research and volunteered to proof-read a couple of their English articles. He then set about perfecting his debating abilities in multiple explosive threads on a forum which we are almost certain was the [[Freethought and Rationalism Discussion Board‎‎|IIDB (Internet Infidels Discussion Board)]]. This inspired him to set up a [[Debate Guide]] on Google's free hosting service, with a collaborator from the Netherlands. To make his writings more accessible, he then set up the now de-archived '''debateguide.blogspot.com''' and another blog that riduculed "anti pedophile" [[Vigilantism|vigilantes]]. After just a few months, this blog was removed in a general [[Blogger censorship|purge of 30-50 similar blogs]] after mass reporting campaigns. His google pages were then removed as well, although he did have some success address squatting for others who lost their blogs.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1068180.htm BC Lievre - BlogSquat]</ref> After a few dead-ends, Lievre was directed towards NearlyFreeSpeech.net, a paid host that (at the time) was only concerned with the legality of its content. Using this service, and the help of others, including a web administrator using the name '''Jillium''', he rehosted his Debate Guide, which was soon to be followed by a blog, wiki and forum.

After ceasing blogging activity, NewgonWiki then hosted a [[Uncommon Sense|webmagazine]], which provided a digest of news articles, activist updates, academia, as well as editorials. Organisations such as [[Absolute Zero]] and [[SOSEN]] were frequently ridiculed. This ran for over a year, as the general projects expanded. However, from around 2010, the project seemed to go into decline, with forum outages, administrative departures and lower participation in core projects. In 2013, NearlyFreeSpeech.net posted a warning that they would terminate site services due to the politically sensitive nature of the content, but a new host and administrator could not be found at the time. This resulted in Newgon.com going offline for a while, but the site was re-hosted by an anonymous person in late 2013, after which it was shuttered due to lack of activity and archived at Newgon.net by mid 2014.

In late 2021, previous associates of Newgon.com and its network of activists launched a plan to rebrand Newgon.net and open the forums, with a start date of late 2021 or early 2022. Instead, a private discussion group was set up, and a public chat room was hosted in order to meet the demands of modern communication.

===Individuals===

From what little information we have, there seems to have been a few individuals who frequently volunteered for Newgon in the early years. They were all linked to the early MAP blog '''[[AttractedToChildren.org|ANU/ATC]]''', thus playing an important role in coining and popularizing the [[Minor Attracted Person (archive research)|MAP]] neologism and founding this website in their teens:

====Daniel Lievre (Founder/Originator/Admin)====

He is enigmatic and hard to research, because he often used pseudonyms to mock his trolls, or female pseudonyms to extract information - for example, from Wikipedia Admins. According to his written profiles, he was 19, and a University Student from Plymouth, in the UK. We know he was preoccupied with community-building and site moderation, and tended to be a forward-thinking activist and troll who created multiple identities on news sites, Wikipedia and various online fora. He was an occasional BoyChat poster.

====Jillium (Founder/Admin)====

Jillium was another young activist, who started at around 17 years of age. His location was unknown, and he tended to be very quiet on forums, preferring to compile large anthology lists for the Wiki. He was known as a competent web admin. Jillium also posted on GL forums and was a very effective Wikipedia activist, with a deep knowledge of the MediaWiki software and interface.

====BLueRibbon/Brian Ribbon (Contributor)====

Another blogger (ANU founder) in his late teens - he was non-affiliated, but submitted a lot of information to our legal sections. Also known as a BoyChat poster, he was known to be active in the wave of [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]] MAP activism some of our current contributors took part in. First person known to regularly use [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]].

Later went on to cofound [[Mu]] with Jim Burton and others.

====Jim Burton (Site Supporter, Admin)====

Admin/host and contributor to the original forums - was not widely seen other than on Wikipedia. Is now an Editor, but served as Strategic Lead from 2021-24.

==Notability==

Newgon is notable for being the first website to host an article defining a [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]], and has been cited in academic and legal documents, as well as various media.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Satris |first=Michael |date=2009-10-16 |title=Answer Brief on The Merits |work=(in re. Miguel Molina) |url=https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/S173260_4_petitioners_answer_brief_on_the_merits.pdf |access-date=2023-05-12 |website=Courts.ca.gov |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Ribeiro |first=Wendell |date=2023-04-22 |title=Ativismo Pedófilo: Breve Histórico e Reivindicações |work=ResearchGate|url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370202231_Ativismo_Pedofilo_Breve_Historico_e_Reivindicacoes |access-date=2023-05-12 |website=[[ResearchGate]] |language=Portugese}}</ref><ref>[https://truereport.net/allarme-pedofilia-si-tenta-la-legalizzazione/ MAP o Pedofili? La neolingua per normalizzare la pedofilia]</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSa8GcedzEU ¡UNA WIKI PERTURBADORA!]</ref> As detailed in the [[Minor Attracted Person (archive research)|article]], Newgon's cofounder, '''Daniel Lievre''' and supporting contributor, '''BLueRibbon''' were the first authors to regularly use the term, on a now defunct blog known as '''ANU'''/'''ATC''' ([[AttractedToChildren.org]]) in early 2007. The term became somewhat popular in the community, entering academic parlance via organizations such as [[B4U-ACT]], who had already previously contributed to the success of the parent term, "Minor Attracted Adult", which was cited in some academic works. "MAP" first entered the public arena in 2018 via social media, and gained widespread attention in 2022. Newgon is also responsible for publishing the first concept of a gradient '''[[MAP Flag|Flag for MAPs]]''', with a less well-known prior concept similar to the present one being submitted to an incomplete [[Flag proposal 2009|2009 competition for a united symbol]].

===Pre-2014 Archiving===

*In an article that quoted [[Wikipedia:Neal Baer|Neal Baer]], the producer of [[Law and Order: SVU]], the [[Homosexuality|gay]] news site afterelton.com claimed that a 2009 ''Hardwired'' edition featured a "pedophile rights group" based on Newgon.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20091026142121/http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2009/10/law-order-pedophile-rights-episode?page=0,1 Afterelton Web Archive], and [https://fstube.net/w/iysE5QJP6T2gzaqf4Fzi8s Episode in full]</ref> Our founder was portrayed as the "pedo-rights kingpin" Kevin O'Donnell, played by Garret Dillahunt.<ref>[https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Kevin_O%27Donnell_(Law_%26_Order:_SVU) Kevin O'Donnell]</ref>
*In a 2009 paper published in the ''International Journal of Cyber Criminology'', Rob D'Ovidio, a Drexel Criminology Professor mentioned Newgon's [[Debate Guide]] alongside other "Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites" he deemed unsuitable for paroled offenders, suggesting they should be [[Censorship|censored]] by their hosts. D'Ovidio made the same charges erroneously against numerous photography sites, [[Ageism|ASFAR]] and even ''Pedophiles Against Child Molestation'',<ref>[https://archive.ph/FkIPH PACM Archive]</ref> not seeing the apparent irony.<ref>[https://www.cybercrimejournal.com/pdf/robertetalijccj2009.pdf D'Ovidio, 2009. Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites as Social Learning Environments: A Content Analysis]</ref>
*The group is probably most famous for its 2007-8 subversion of '''Wikipedia''' via a private mailing list, private forum and guerilla sockpuppet infiltration campaign. Our article, [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics]] covers some of those activities.
*Newgon was mentioned in the article "Creepedia" by American Greatness,<ref>[https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/07/creepedia/ Creepedia]</ref> "A journey into the dark corners of the deep web" by TNW,<ref>[https://thenextweb.com/news/mail-order-drugs-hitmen-child-porn-a-journey-into-the-dark-corners-of-the-deep-web Mail-order drugs, hitmen & child porn: A journey into the dark corners of the deep web - TNW]</ref>, in the Quebec Journal<ref>[https://www.journaldequebec.com/2010/04/07/les-nouveaux-pedophiles Quebec Journal: Les nouveaux pédophiles ("The new pedophiles")]</ref> and in an edition of the podcast [[Uncommon Sense Edition 4|MalcolmOutLoud]]. It is often compared, albeit in pejorative terms to Wikipedia.
*The site was a favorite with Google Groups polemicists and has been criticized repeatedly on [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]] itself. It has been listed on various Dark Web directories/Hidden Services and Hidden Wikis (onion sites).

===Post 2021 Reopening===
[[File:Newgonbaby.png|thumb|Auto-generated baby name "Newgon".]]

*Materials produced by the site have been shared by some alternative right trolls in an effort to sow confusion and division among their opponents (often mainstream Liberals and the LGBT community). This, among other things led to misinformation suggesting that the site was an operation of 4chan, or associated with such users.
*MAP awareness raising on [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]] saw an increase in Newgon.net references and meme usage post 2021. The organization is often suspected of being involved in [[pro-c]] agitating within the [[MAP Movement]], and is considered off-limits on certain forums because of its stance.<ref>[https://forum.prostasia.org/t/requesting-resources-like-memes-and-infographics-to-share-with-others-on-the-topic-of-hebe-ephebophilia/2672/5 Prostasia Fdn, Moderation position re. Newgon]</ref> In reality, Newgon, until 2023, provided resources/information to an activist cell called '''[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA]]''', which seeks to make it easier for MAPs to conduct awareness-raising campaigns online, be they related to pro-c or agnostic modes of activism.
[[File:Soyteens.png|thumb|Soyjak artists start a supposed doxxing campaign against Newgon. It is hard to tell how serious they were about this endeavor]]
*In early May, 2022, Newgon briefly ran a Twitter account at '''@NewgonOrg''' - gaining almost 100 followers over a 3-day period, and 15-35 likes on some of its content. Despite posting a mixture of research, anti-[[Research: The Dangers of Stigma|stigma]] and moderate pro-choice material, the account was soon suspended after a mass-report campaign. Newgon re-created their Twitter account in August 2022, as '''@Newgon2007''', lasting for just over three weeks before being suspended on 100 followers. The content of the second account was almost entirely composed of retweets without comment. Newgon immediately created an account under '''@MAPSafety''', aimed at distributing a list of 200+ harassers to Minor Attracted People in order to prevent specious mass-report campaigns and censorship, but it was again banned. Newgon again created a Twitter account '''@NewgonOrg2007''' in the wake of free-speech advocate, Elon Musk's takeover in late October/early November, 2022. In this instance, the organization accused the conspiracy-fringe child protection campaigner [[Alaric Naudé]] of circulating lies that necessitated their re-emergence, laid into [[Jon Uhler]] as a "religious lunatic" and took responsibility for a range of viralized psy-ops that took place over the preceding 10 months, stating that they were carried out in response to censorship. The account requested to enter into a "dialogue" with the incoming content-moderation committee over the Terms of Service, with the implicit offer being their withdrawal from those "baiting" strategies.<ref>[https://archive.ph/3noXf NewgonOrg2007 archive]</ref> This account was suspended in late January, 2023.
*Towards the end of August, 2023, Newgon was subjected to an unsophisticated attack by "Soyteens" from chan-culture boards concerned with the creation and posting of Soyjak memes. The site sustained no damage and suffered no downtime - angering some users.<ref>One of a number of threads on soyjaks.party (soyjak.party was taken offline just before this) - [https://soyjaks.party/soy/thread/4502019.html We should take down Newgon]</ref>
*Wikipedia's inaccurate claim<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_pedophile_advocacy_organizations&oldid=1154998086 Diff of deletionist editor Crossroads' inaccurate profiling of Newgon, which fails to attribute opinions to the author]</ref> that Newgon presents part of it's platform as "pedophile rights" has been repeated in the Jamaican media.<ref>[https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/commentary/20240319/michael-abrahams-push-normalise-paedophilia Michael Abrahams | The push to normalise paedophilia]</ref>
*Newgon financially and materially supports initiatives which expand the [[Minor attracted community]], including counteracting [[censorship]].

====''Yesmap server'' and ''Newgon Information Center''====

An experimental publicity/engagement campaign was planned under the ''[[Yesmap]]'' banner, with projects such as a group editorial and news aggregation blogging service proposed. These may (as of 2024) instead be forwarded under other banners, with collaborators from outside of Newgon, including former members. While the overall aim of this campaign was to refine knowledge and hone skills for future efforts, Yesmap (as a server) has already made a significant impact upon the [[pediverse]] by way of setting up a [[Help:Joining PCMA chat|Matrix chatserver]], on which various [[MAP visibility on Twitter|pro-visibility]] online campaigns have been organized. The [[PCMA]] group is now independent of Yesmap, and by extension, Newgon.

Newgon plans to increase its [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|funding of Yesmap]] and other initiatives roughly in proportion with increasing visibility for MAPs in general. This has included creating an organizational website for Yesmap, and supporting other initiatives including a forum. Newgon has also directed donor funding to an independently administrated video sharing instance within the [[pediverse]], following the 2023 technical closure of [[FreeSpeechTube]].

In the longer term (7-15 years) Newgon is planning to change the appearance of NewgonWiki, in such a way that it becomes indistinguishable as a Wiki, and subsequently rebrand it as ''Newgon Information Center''. When this becomes technically possible, the amount of concise content on the Wiki will be projected to rival the breadth of information collected on black or gay history. As a result of this increase in volume, "subprojects" will be created (such as ''Project [[Pederasty]]'', ''Project [[Girllove|GL]]'' and ''Project MAP Identity'') - functioning as de-facto sub-encyclopedias. It will also become necessary to divorce some parts of the Wiki entirely from the project. Chief among these will be the database of memes, which will be given its own domain and possibly a new owner.

At some point within the next 2 decades, Newgon is seeking increase funding to employ or co-employ full or part-time web technicians, researchers and writers to help maintain the large volume of knowledge.

==Newgon Organization's position on youth==

Newgon was founded by the above a group of teenage MAP activists, and maintains an unusual and nowadays unique line on the subject of youth (at least for a MAP/ally-led organization).

While Newgon opposes all offending, their pro-[[Youth Rights|youth rights]] agenda favors a revised [[Ethos of Newgon|elective age of consent at 12]]. Newgon maintains that what for MAPs is a self-interested position is nevertheless "[[Research|evidence-based]]" - pointing to the testimony of MAP Allies and researchers. The website makes repeated references to adults' [[Accounts and Testimonies|positive testimonies]] of sexual relationships in their youth; controversially arguing that they should be treated as ''de-facto'' youth-advocacy. [[Youth Perspectives|Youth perspectives]] are also encouraged and permitted in public discussions, since the site has strict controls against "adult material" and is supported by [[UNCRC|international conventions]] and other human rights agreements operative in the relevant jurisdictions.

==''"Newgooner"'' label==

Used primarily on [[Pediverse|fediverse]], the ''"Newgooner"'' label (a portmanteau of Newgon and Gooner<ref>[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20gooner UD: Gooner]</ref>) is often employed in a pejorative manner to describe a radically and unapologetically [[pro-c]] individual who lacks self-awareness, sometimes expressing unfashionable [[Wikipedia:Heterodoxy|heterodox]] political opinions. "Newgooners", often assumed to be [[PCMA]] members, are seen as being able to engage in long, heated and detailed philosophical discussions, using sophistry to confuse their opponents. More basic Newgooners can be found on imageboards, Reddit and Quora, denouncing the "Sex Fascists". In some cases, the label has been adopted ironically by Fedi users on some of the more marginal servers.

==Deradicalisation==

In some instances, volunteers for Newgon-supported projects have attempted to deradicalise new members. In 2023, three such volunteers "talked down" a chat user who was intending to unleash a sock-farm of troll accounts peddling illegal material on the [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] forum, and report the site to authorities.

==See also==

*[[Ethos of Newgon]] - Positions (binding and non-binding) and press-releases.
*[[Essay:%22Newgon_Man_Bad%22,_and_the_%22Lecter_Cult%22:_Two_permanently_online_myths_reviewed#List_of_claims|Debate article addressing some common criticisms of "Newgon positions"]].
*[[Help:Editing|Editing Portal]] - Inner workings of NewgonWiki.
*[[Krumme13]] and [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] are similar unincorporated organizations.

==External links==

*[https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Evil-unveiled.com/Newgon.com Evil Unveiled] article on Newgon
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Newgon BoyWiki] article on Newgon
*[https://archive.is/NiENN MAP-Wiki] article on Newgon, and [[Essay:%22Newgon_Man_Bad%22,_and_the_%22Lecter_Cult%22:_Two_permanently_online_myths_reviewed#List_of_claims|our reply]] to some of the distortions contained therein

==References==

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Newgon

2025-02-27T22:26:30Z

The Admins:

__NOTOC__[[Image:Nheadsmall.png|frame|Original 2007 Logo]]'''Newgon Organization''' (aka '''Newgon''', primary benefactor of the '''Yesmap''' server) is an informal activist organization first set up at '''Newgon.com''' by '''Daniel Lievre''' and '''Jillium''' on Jun 8, 2007. Newgon, which has few official affiliates and no membership register, was founded after Google's [[censorship]] campaign against a number of [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]] blogging [[Blogger censorship|sites]], and was most active until around 2010 and again after 2021.

The organization's purpose is to produce concise information resources relating to MAPs and minor-adult sex, for the use of online guerilla activists and trolls. It has also hosted forums for general discussion of these themes, private forums to organize information campaigns, and helped organize groups of MAPs and allies who seek to raise awareness online. Newgon is not presently active in off-site awareness raising, only conducts publishing activities.

The organization's projects are maintained by the [[Newgon Support Team]]. Any websites it publishes or funds are registered and hosted with high-end freedom of speech providers and proxying services for the purpose of privacy. '''Newgon.net''' points to the informational wiki you are currently reading, along with an archived [[Uncommon Sense|webmagazine/blog]]. '''Yesmap.net''' also points to projects supported by Newgon.

For most of its lifespan, the organization has employed an official color scheme of navy, azure and yellow in most of its materials.

==Gallery==

:''See also the gallery in [[MAP visibility on Twitter]], for a small selection of campaigns that are sometimes Newgon-related, by way of their spawning on servers funded by the organization.''

<gallery>
File:TNWNewgon.png|TNW's 2012 investigation
File:Newgontwt.jpg|Original May 2022 Twitter Account
File:Zoostrugnewgon.png|Reaction to the original account
File:NewgonOrg.png|Typical content that followed
File:Groomingnewgon.png|Various people on social media have expressed concern about the information scheme emanating from Newgon
File:NewgonAug22.png|Newgon's 2nd Twitter account (Aug 2022) arrived with a challenge that Twitter ultimately refused
File:Newgondeace.png|Organizational account addresses the unusual family history of a conservative journalist who tweeted approvingly about killing pedophiles
File:Mastodon-newgon.png|Professor Newgonsky almost becomes a meme on [[Anti-contact|Anti-c]] Mastodon
File:Newgonconspiracy.png|<small>Paranoid polemicist and third-tier academic, [[Alaric Naudé]] has used an influence diagram to explain how he believes that Newgon is part of a "pedophilia normalization movement" connected to Disney and [[Michel Foucault]].</small>
File:Newgonnaude.png|In late 2022, Naudé, and the conservative feminist/"gay" assimilationist front-group, ''[[Gays Against Groomers]]'' were involved in an outrage campaign against Newgon<ref>[https://archive.is/oyLMR MAPs against Groomers account]</ref>
File:Org2007.png|An organizational account was created again, especially for Naude
File:Newgongag.png|It later thanked Gays Against Groomers for their help publicizing the website, and then trolled them with Bill Maher quotes
File:Clapback.jpg|One of various initiatives in 2023
File:50724.png|Misinformation shared on the doxxing site KiwiFarms in 2023
File:Littleplace.png|2024 [[pediverse]] Newgon parody
</gallery>

==Potted history==

[[File:Arrests Reported in the United States.png|thumb|Newgon is widely understood to be a headless resistance effort, but sometimes humorously congratulates itself for drastic reductions in sexual offending arrests and convictions]]
'''Daniel Lievre''', a homosexual [[Ephebophilia|ephebophile]], states that in 2005, his interest was piqued by a mention of [[NAMBLA]] on '''Rotten.com''' an old-fashioned, now defunct website featuring comment threads on shocking and bizarre content. He found out about [[Vereniging MARTIJN]] after some research and volunteered to proof-read a couple of their English articles. He then set about perfecting his debating abilities in multiple explosive threads on a forum which we are almost certain was the [[Freethought and Rationalism Discussion Board‎‎|IIDB (Internet Infidels Discussion Board)]]. This inspired him to set up a [[Debate Guide]] on Google's free hosting service, with a collaborator from the Netherlands. To make his writings more accessible, he then set up the now de-archived '''debateguide.blogspot.com''' and another blog that riduculed "anti pedophile" [[Vigilantism|vigilantes]]. After just a few months, this blog was removed in a general [[Blogger censorship|purge of 30-50 similar blogs]] after mass reporting campaigns. His google pages were then removed as well, although he did have some success address squatting for others who lost their blogs.<ref>[https://www.boychat.org/messages/1068180.htm BC Lievre - BlogSquat]</ref> After a few dead-ends, Lievre was directed towards NearlyFreeSpeech.net, a paid host that (at the time) was only concerned with the legality of its content. Using this service, and the help of others, including a web administrator using the name '''Jillium''', he rehosted his Debate Guide, which was soon to be followed by a blog, wiki and forum.

After ceasing blogging activity, NewgonWiki then hosted a [[Uncommon Sense|webmagazine]], which provided a digest of news articles, activist updates, academia, as well as editorials. Organisations such as [[Absolute Zero]] and [[SOSEN]] were frequently ridiculed. This ran for over a year, as the general projects expanded. However, from around 2010, the project seemed to go into decline, with forum outages, administrative departures and lower participation in core projects. In 2013, NearlyFreeSpeech.net posted a warning that they would terminate site services due to the politically sensitive nature of the content, but a new host and administrator could not be found at the time. This resulted in Newgon.com going offline for a while, but the site was re-hosted by an anonymous person in late 2013, after which it was shuttered due to lack of activity and archived at Newgon.net by mid 2014.

In late 2021, previous associates of Newgon.com and its network of activists launched a plan to rebrand Newgon.net and open the forums, with a start date of late 2021 or early 2022. Instead, a private discussion group was set up, and a public chat room was hosted in order to meet the demands of modern communication.

===Individuals===

From what little information we have, there seems to have been a few individuals who frequently volunteered for Newgon in the early years. They were all linked to the early MAP blog '''[[AttractedToChildren.org|ANU/ATC]]''', thus playing an important role in coining and popularizing the [[Minor Attracted Person (archive research)|MAP]] neologism and founding this website in their teens:

====Daniel Lievre (Founder/Originator/Admin)====

He is enigmatic and hard to research, because he often used pseudonyms to mock his trolls, or female pseudonyms to extract information - for example, from Wikipedia Admins. According to his written profiles, he was 19, and a University Student from Plymouth, in the UK. We know he was preoccupied with community-building and site moderation, and tended to be a forward-thinking activist and troll who created multiple identities on news sites, Wikipedia and various online fora. He was an occasional BoyChat poster.

====Jillium (Founder/Admin)====

Jillium was another young activist, who started at around 17 years of age. His location was unknown, and he tended to be very quiet on forums, preferring to compile large anthology lists for the Wiki. He was known as a competent web admin. Jillium also posted on GL forums and was a very effective Wikipedia activist, with a deep knowledge of the MediaWiki software and interface.

====BLueRibbon/Brian Ribbon (Contributor)====

Another blogger (ANU founder) in his late teens - he was non-affiliated, but submitted a lot of information to our legal sections. Also known as a BoyChat poster, he was known to be active in the wave of [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]] MAP activism some of our current contributors took part in. First person known to regularly use [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]].

Later went on to cofound [[Mu]] with Jim Burton and others.

====Jim Burton (Site Supporter, Admin)====

Admin/host and contributor to the original forums - was not widely seen other than on Wikipedia. Is now an Editor, but served as Strategic Lead from 2021-24.

==Notability==

Newgon is notable for being the first website to host an article defining a [[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]], and has been cited in academic and legal documents, as well as various media.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Satris |first=Michael |date=2009-10-16 |title=Answer Brief on The Merits |work=(in re. Miguel Molina) |url=https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/S173260_4_petitioners_answer_brief_on_the_merits.pdf |access-date=2023-05-12 |website=Courts.ca.gov |language=en}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |last=Ribeiro |first=Wendell |date=2023-04-22 |title=Ativismo Pedófilo: Breve Histórico e Reivindicações |work=ResearchGate|url=https://www.researchgate.net/publication/370202231_Ativismo_Pedofilo_Breve_Historico_e_Reivindicacoes |access-date=2023-05-12 |website=[[ResearchGate]] |language=Portugese}}</ref><ref>[https://truereport.net/allarme-pedofilia-si-tenta-la-legalizzazione/ MAP o Pedofili? La neolingua per normalizzare la pedofilia]</ref><ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSa8GcedzEU ¡UNA WIKI PERTURBADORA!]</ref> As detailed in the [[Minor Attracted Person (archive research)|article]], Newgon's cofounder, '''Daniel Lievre''' and supporting contributor, '''BLueRibbon''' were the first authors to regularly use the term, on a now defunct blog known as '''ANU'''/'''ATC''' ([[AttractedToChildren.org]]) in early 2007. The term became somewhat popular in the community, entering academic parlance via organizations such as [[B4U-ACT]], who had already previously contributed to the success of the parent term, "Minor Attracted Adult", which was cited in some academic works. "MAP" first entered the public arena in 2018 via social media, and gained widespread attention in 2022. Newgon is also responsible for publishing the first concept of a gradient '''[[MAP Flag|Flag for MAPs]]''', with a less well-known prior concept similar to the present one being submitted to an incomplete [[Flag proposal 2009|2009 competition for a united symbol]].

===Pre-2014 Archiving===

*In an article that quoted [[Wikipedia:Neal Baer|Neal Baer]], the producer of [[Law and Order: SVU]], the [[Homosexuality|gay]] news site afterelton.com claimed that a 2009 ''Hardwired'' edition featured a "pedophile rights group" based on Newgon.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20091026142121/http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2009/10/law-order-pedophile-rights-episode?page=0,1 Afterelton Web Archive], and [https://fstube.net/w/iysE5QJP6T2gzaqf4Fzi8s Episode in full]</ref> Our founder was portrayed as the "pedo-rights kingpin" Kevin O'Donnell, played by Garret Dillahunt.<ref>[https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Kevin_O%27Donnell_(Law_%26_Order:_SVU) Kevin O'Donnell]</ref>
*In a 2009 paper published in the ''International Journal of Cyber Criminology'', Rob D'Ovidio, a Drexel Criminology Professor mentioned Newgon's [[Debate Guide]] alongside other "Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites" he deemed unsuitable for paroled offenders, suggesting they should be [[Censorship|censored]] by their hosts. D'Ovidio made the same charges erroneously against numerous photography sites, [[Ageism|ASFAR]] and even ''Pedophiles Against Child Molestation'',<ref>[https://archive.ph/FkIPH PACM Archive]</ref> not seeing the apparent irony.<ref>[https://www.cybercrimejournal.com/pdf/robertetalijccj2009.pdf D'Ovidio, 2009. Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites as Social Learning Environments: A Content Analysis]</ref>
*The group is probably most famous for its 2007-8 subversion of '''Wikipedia''' via a private mailing list, private forum and guerilla sockpuppet infiltration campaign. Our article, [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics]] covers some of those activities.
*Newgon was mentioned in the article "Creepedia" by American Greatness,<ref>[https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/07/creepedia/ Creepedia]</ref> "A journey into the dark corners of the deep web" by TNW,<ref>[https://thenextweb.com/news/mail-order-drugs-hitmen-child-porn-a-journey-into-the-dark-corners-of-the-deep-web Mail-order drugs, hitmen & child porn: A journey into the dark corners of the deep web - TNW]</ref>, in the Quebec Journal<ref>[https://www.journaldequebec.com/2010/04/07/les-nouveaux-pedophiles Quebec Journal: Les nouveaux pédophiles ("The new pedophiles")]</ref> and in an edition of the podcast [[Uncommon Sense Edition 4|MalcolmOutLoud]]. It is often compared, albeit in pejorative terms to Wikipedia.
*The site was a favorite with Google Groups polemicists and has been criticized repeatedly on [[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics|Wikipedia]] itself. It has been listed on various Dark Web directories/Hidden Services and Hidden Wikis (onion sites).

===Post 2021 Reopening===
[[File:Newgonbaby.png|thumb|Auto-generated baby name "Newgon".]]

*Materials produced by the site have been shared by some alternative right trolls in an effort to sow confusion and division among their opponents (often mainstream Liberals and the LGBT community). This, among other things led to misinformation suggesting that the site was an operation of 4chan, or associated with such users.
*MAP awareness raising on [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]] saw an increase in Newgon.net references and meme usage post 2021. The organization is often suspected of being involved in [[pro-c]] agitating within the [[MAP Movement]], and is considered off-limits on certain forums because of its stance.<ref>[https://forum.prostasia.org/t/requesting-resources-like-memes-and-infographics-to-share-with-others-on-the-topic-of-hebe-ephebophilia/2672/5 Prostasia Fdn, Moderation position re. Newgon]</ref> In reality, Newgon, until 2023, provided resources/information to an activist cell called '''[[Help:Joining PCMA chat|PCMA]]''', which seeks to make it easier for MAPs to conduct awareness-raising campaigns online, be they related to pro-c or agnostic modes of activism.
[[File:Soyteens.png|thumb|Soyjak artists start a supposed doxxing campaign against Newgon. It is hard to tell how serious they were about this endeavor]]
*In early May, 2022, Newgon briefly ran a Twitter account at '''@NewgonOrg''' - gaining almost 100 followers over a 3-day period, and 15-35 likes on some of its content. Despite posting a mixture of research, anti-[[Research: The Dangers of Stigma|stigma]] and moderate pro-choice material, the account was soon suspended after a mass-report campaign. Newgon re-created their Twitter account in August 2022, as '''@Newgon2007''', lasting for just over three weeks before being suspended on 100 followers. The content of the second account was almost entirely composed of retweets without comment. Newgon immediately created an account under '''@MAPSafety''', aimed at distributing a list of 200+ harassers to Minor Attracted People in order to prevent specious mass-report campaigns and censorship, but it was again banned. Newgon again created a Twitter account '''@NewgonOrg2007''' in the wake of free-speech advocate, Elon Musk's takeover in late October/early November, 2022. In this instance, the organization accused the conspiracy-fringe child protection campaigner [[Alaric Naudé]] of circulating lies that necessitated their re-emergence, laid into [[Jon Uhler]] as a "religious lunatic" and took responsibility for a range of viralized psy-ops that took place over the preceding 10 months, stating that they were carried out in response to censorship. The account requested to enter into a "dialogue" with the incoming content-moderation committee over the Terms of Service, with the implicit offer being their withdrawal from those "baiting" strategies.<ref>[https://archive.ph/3noXf NewgonOrg2007 archive]</ref> This account was suspended in late January, 2023.
*Towards the end of August, 2023, Newgon was subjected to an unsophisticated attack by "Soyteens" from chan-culture boards concerned with the creation and posting of Soyjak memes. The site sustained no damage and suffered no downtime - angering some users.<ref>One of a number of threads on soyjaks.party (soyjak.party was taken offline just before this) - [https://soyjaks.party/soy/thread/4502019.html We should take down Newgon]</ref>
*Wikipedia's inaccurate claim<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_pedophile_advocacy_organizations&oldid=1154998086 Diff of deletionist editor Crossroads' inaccurate profiling of Newgon, which fails to attribute opinions to the author]</ref> that Newgon presents part of it's platform as "pedophile rights" has been repeated in the Jamaican media.<ref>[https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/commentary/20240319/michael-abrahams-push-normalise-paedophilia Michael Abrahams | The push to normalise paedophilia]</ref>
*Newgon financially and materially supports initiatives which expand the [[Minor attracted community]], including counteracting [[censorship]].

====''Yesmap server'' and ''Newgon Information Center''====

An experimental publicity/engagement campaign was planned under the ''[[Yesmap]]'' banner, with projects such as a group editorial and news aggregation blogging service proposed. These may (as of 2024) instead be forwarded under other banners, with collaborators from outside of Newgon, including former members. While the overall aim of this campaign was to refine knowledge and hone skills for future efforts, Yesmap (as a server) has already made a significant impact upon the [[pediverse]] by way of setting up a [[Help:Joining PCMA chat|Matrix chatserver]], on which various [[MAP visibility on Twitter|pro-visibility]] online campaigns have been organized. The [[PCMA]] group is now independent of Yesmap, and by extension, Newgon.

Newgon plans to increase its [[NewgonWiki:Getting involved|funding of Yesmap]] and other initiatives roughly in proportion with increasing visibility for MAPs in general. This has included creating an organizational website for Yesmap, and supporting other initiatives including a forum. Newgon has also directed donor funding to an independently administrated video sharing instance within the [[pediverse]], following the 2023 technical closure of [[FreeSpeechTube]].

In the longer term (7-15 years) Newgon is planning to change the appearance of NewgonWiki, in such a way that it becomes indistinguishable as a Wiki, and subsequently rebrand it as ''Newgon Information Center''. When this becomes technically possible, the amount of concise content on the Wiki will be projected to rival the breadth of information collected on black or gay history. As a result of this increase in volume, "subprojects" will be created (such as ''Project [[Pederasty]]'', ''Project [[Girllove|GL]]'' and ''Project MAP Identity'') - functioning as de-facto sub-encyclopedias. It will also become necessary to divorce some parts of the Wiki entirely from the project. Chief among these will be the database of memes, which will be given its own domain and possibly a new owner.

At some point within the next 2 decades, Newgon is seeking increase funding to employ or co-employ full or part-time web technicians, researchers and writers to help maintain the large volume of knowledge.

==Newgon Organization's position on youth==

Newgon was founded by the above a group of teenage MAP activists, and maintains an unusual and nowadays unique line on the subject of youth (at least for a MAP/ally-led organization).

While Newgon opposes all offending, their pro-[[Youth Rights|youth rights]] agenda favors a revised [[Ethos of Newgon|elective age of consent at 12]]. Newgon maintains that what for MAPs is a self-interested position is nevertheless "[[Research|evidence-based]]" - pointing to the testimony of MAP Allies and researchers. The website makes repeated references to adults' [[Accounts and Testimonies|positive testimonies]] of sexual relationships in their youth; controversially arguing that they should be treated as ''de-facto'' youth-advocacy. [[Youth Perspectives|Youth perspectives]] are also encouraged and permitted in public discussions, since the site has strict controls against "adult material" and is supported by [[UNCRC|international conventions]] and other human rights agreements operative in the relevant jurisdictions.

==''"Newgooner"'' label==

Used primarily on [[Pediverse|fediverse]], the ''"Newgooner"'' label (a portmanteau of Newgon and Gooner<ref>[https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20gooner UD: Gooner]</ref>) is often employed in a pejorative manner to describe a radically and unapologetically [[pro-c]] individual who lacks self-awareness, sometimes expressing unfashionable [[Wikipedia:Heterodoxy|heterodox]] political opinions. "Newgooners", often assumed to be [[PCMA]] members, are seen as being able to engage in long, heated and detailed philosophical discussions, using sophistry to confuse their opponents. More basic Newgooners can be found on imageboards, Reddit and Quora, denouncing the "Sex Fascists". In some cases, the label has been adopted ironically by Fedi users on some of the more marginal servers.

==Deradicalisation==

In some instances, volunteers for Newgon-supported projects have attempted to deradicalise new members. In 2023, three such volunteers "talked down" a chat user who was intending to unleash a sock-farm of troll accounts peddling illegal material on the [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] forum, and report the site to authorities.

==See also==

*[[Ethos of Newgon]] - Positions (binding and non-binding) and press-releases.
*[[Essay:%22Newgon_Man_Bad%22,_and_the_%22Lecter_Cult%22:_Two_permanently_online_myths_reviewed#List_of_claims|Debate article addressing some common criticisms of "Newgon positions"]].
*[[Help:Editing|Editing Portal]] - Inner workings of NewgonWiki.
*[[Krumme13]] and [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] are similar unincorporated organizations.

==External links==

*[https://encyclopediadramatica.online/Evil-unveiled.com/Newgon.com Evil Unveiled] article on Newgon
*[https://www.boywiki.org/en/Newgon BoyWiki] article on Newgon
*[https://archive.is/NiENN MAP-Wiki] article on Newgon, and [[Essay:%22Newgon_Man_Bad%22,_and_the_%22Lecter_Cult%22:_Two_permanently_online_myths_reviewed#List_of_claims|our reply]] to some of the distortions contained therein

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