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	*:"The best ethnographic description of this type of [gerontocratic] marriage is by Jane Goodale (1971) in her account of the Tiwi who live on Melville Island, North Australia. Betrothals of first marriages of most females are made even before those females are concieved. In fact, such a marriage contract is made when the as-yet-to-be-concieved girl's mother commences menstruation. [...] Once the marriage contract is made, the husband-to-be, who is an adult, works with his future mother and father-in-law as a member of that family, with the expectation that when a daughter is born to them, she will be given to him as a wife. There is no fixed chronological age at which the young girl is given to her designated husband, but it occurs after she is able to take on some household and other economic responsibilities, but well before her first menstruation. For the Tiwi she is still a child, albeit and older child. When her father decides that she is mature enough, the young girl is merely taken to her husband and instructed to reside and sleep with him. This is not an abrupt change [...] for the husband has been a part of the same family camp for some time, and the young wife is still surrounded by those with whom she has always lived. Goodale describes the process:		*:"The best ethnographic description of this type of [gerontocratic] marriage is by Jane Goodale (1971) in her account of the Tiwi who live on Melville Island, North Australia. Betrothals of first marriages of most females are made even before those females are concieved. In fact, such a marriage contract is made when the as-yet-to-be-concieved girl's mother commences menstruation. [...] Once the marriage contract is made, the husband-to-be, who is an adult, works with his future mother and father-in-law as a member of that family, with the expectation that when a daughter is born to them, she will be given to him as a wife. There is no fixed chronological age at which the young girl is given to her designated husband, but it occurs after she is able to take on some household and other economic responsibilities, but well before her first menstruation. For the Tiwi she is still a child, albeit and older child. When her father decides that she is mature enough, the young girl is merely taken to her husband and instructed to reside and sleep with him. This is not an abrupt change [...] for the husband has been a part of the same family camp for some time, and the young wife is still surrounded by those with whom she has always lived. Goodale describes the process:
	*::''Soon after the ''alinga'' [young girl] moves to her husband's fire he begins her sexual instruction. From all accounts this appears to be a very gradual process. He begins by deflowering her with his finger, and perhaps only after a year does he have actual intercourse with her. Sexual intercourse is considered by the Tiwi to be the direct and only cause of breast formation, growth of pubic and auxillary hair, menarche, and subsequent menstrual periods. (1971, p. 45)."''		*::''Soon after the ''alinga'' [young girl] moves to her husband's fire he begins her sexual instruction. From all accounts this appears to be a very gradual process. He begins by deflowering her with his finger, and perhaps only after a year does he have actual intercourse with her. Sexual intercourse is considered by the Tiwi to be the direct and only cause of breast formation, growth of pubic and auxillary hair, menarche, and subsequent menstrual periods. (1971, p. 45)."''
	*:"versions of this marriage were once found among many Australian Aborigine groups (Berndt & Berndt, 1951; Gale, 1970; Kaberry, 1939; Rose, 1960). From our ethnocentric [i.e. Western] perspective, one of the most notable aspects [...] is the ~~abscence~~ of trauma". (p. 77).		*:"versions of this marriage were once found among many Australian Aborigine groups (Berndt & Berndt, 1951; Gale, 1970; Kaberry, 1939; Rose, 1960). From our ethnocentric [i.e. Western] perspective, one of the most notable aspects [...] is the absence of trauma". (p. 77).

	==Melanesia==		==Melanesia==
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	*'''Review of [[Gilbert Herdt]]'s famous fieldwork on the Sambia (by [[Walter L. Williams]] as quoted in our page on Herdt):'''		*'''Review of [[Gilbert Herdt]]'s famous fieldwork on the Sambia (by [[Walter L. Williams]] as quoted in our page on Herdt):'''
	*:"Between the ages of about seven and thirteen, boys are taken from the maternal household and placed in a separate boys' house away from the village. For a period of several months to several years, depending on the culture, boys avoid all contact with females as they are prepared for manhood in elaborate initiations. It is the social duty of men to plant sperm in boys in order for them to grow. In some societies this is done by the boy performing oral sex upon the man, in others by him receiving anal intercourse, or in others by having the sperm rubbed on his body. The sexual act must always be with the boy receiving the older male's semen. To reverse roles is considered damaging to the boy's growth."		*:"Between the ages of about seven and thirteen, boys are taken from the maternal household and placed in a separate boys' house away from the village. For a period of several months to several years, depending on the culture, boys avoid all contact with females as they are prepared for manhood in elaborate initiations. It is the social duty of men to plant sperm in boys in order for them to grow. In some societies this is done by the boy performing oral sex upon the man, in others by him receiving anal intercourse, or in others by having the sperm rubbed on his body. The sexual act must always be with the boy receiving the older male's semen. To reverse roles is considered damaging to the boy's growth."

			*'''Davenport, William H. (1992). [https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Davenport_chapter.pdf Adult-Child Sexual Relations in Cross-Cultural Perspective], in W. O'Donohue & J. H. Geer (Eds.), ''The sexual abuse of children: Theory and research'' (Vol. 1, Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum, 73-80), pp. 76-77.'''
			*:"The best description of these patterns, by Herdt (1982, 1987) is with a people the author calls the Sambia. In brief, the pattern is as follows:
			*::''Seven-to-ten-year-old Sambia boys are taken from their mothers when first initiated into the male cult, and thereafter experience the most powerful and seductive homosexual fellatio activities. For some ten to fifteen years, they engage in these practices on a daily basis, first as fellator, and then as fellated. Elders teach that semen is absolutely vital: it should be consumed daily since the creation of biological maleness and the maintenance of masculinity depend upon it. Hence, from middle childhood untul puberty, boys should perform fellatio on older youths.''

			:::''Near puberty the same initiates become dominant youths. Ritual helps remake their social and erotic identity, the bachelors becoming the fellated partners for a new crop of ritual novices. ... Yet, in spite of this formidable background, the final outcome is exclusive heterosexuality—of a particular form. Youths eventually become sexually attracted to women. At marriage (c. sixteen to twenty-five years of age), they may even act as true bisexuals, for a time. With fatherhood, however, homosexuality should cease; thereafter men should engage only in heterosexual activities. (Herdt 1987, pp. 2-3)''" [Herdt, G. H. (1987). Guardians of the flutes: Idioms of masculinity.]

			*'''Davenport, William H. (1992). [https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Davenport_chapter.pdf Adult-Child Sexual Relations in Cross-Cultural Perspective], in W. O'Donohue & J. H. Geer (Eds.), ''The sexual abuse of children: Theory and research'' (Vol. 1, Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum, 73-80), pp. 76-77.'''
			::"[I]n a society called East Bay, where I did some ethnography of sexual behavior (Davenport 1965), formerly, there had been a pattern of male homosexuality in which some older men often took, always with consent from their fathers, nonrelated boys as relatively permanent, passive sexual partners for anal intercourse. From a cultural perspective, the boys were understood to be substitutes for females, not homosexual partners as our culture would define them. In fact, the culture of East Bay did not recognize — that is, had no cultural category for — intimate male homosexual relationships as something separate from those involving women. A boy, rather than a man, was selected, because a boy was a minor, without an independent legal status separate from his father’s, hence he could be told what to do. Women in East Bay society also were minors in this legal sense. But the crux of the matter was that the passive homosexual role was not considered to be in any way damaging to a boy’s psychosexual development. Moreover, such a close association with an elder man, who was expected to be gentle, generous, and indulgent, could have a positive effect on the boy’s development. If, however, the elder man did not fulfill these role expectations, he would find himself accused of mistreatment, that is, abusing the boy, and, therefore, in serious trouble with the boy’s father and other senior male relatives who were responsible for his well-being."

	*'''Hyena, Hank (1999). "[http://web.archive.org/web/20131002090633/http://gettingit.com/article/56 Semen Warriors Of New Guinea]," Gettingit.com, September 16.'''		*'''Hyena, Hank (1999). "[http://web.archive.org/web/20131002090633/http://gettingit.com/article/56 Semen Warriors Of New Guinea]," Gettingit.com, September 16.'''
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	=== Azande ===		=== Azande ===
	*'''Evans-Pritchard, E. E. (1970). [https://sci-hub.st/10.2307/672861 Sexual Inversion among the Azande. American Anthropologist], 72(6), 1428–1434.'''		*'''Evans-Pritchard, E. E. (1970). [https://sci-hub.st/10.2307/672861 Sexual Inversion among the Azande. American Anthropologist], 72(6), 1428–1434.'''
	*: "It was the custom for members of bachelor companies, some of whom would always be living in barracks at court, to take boy-wives. [...] Most young men consequently married late--well into their twenties and thirties-and, because girls were engaged (in a legal sense married) very young, often at birth, the only way youths could obtain satisfaction from a woman was in adultery. [...] The boys performed many of the smaller services a woman performs daily for her husband [...] Also, the boywife carried his husband's shield when on a journey. It should be understood that he performed these services lest it might be thought that the relationship was entirely of a sexual nature; it will be appreciated that it had an educational side to it. With regard to the sexual side, at night the boy slept with his lover, who had intercourse with him between his thighs (Azande expressed disgust at the suggestion of anal penetration). The boys got what pleasure they could by friction of their organs on the husband's belly or groin. However, even though there was this side to the relationship, it was clear from Zande accounts that there was also the comfort of a nightly sharing of the bed with a companion."		*: "It was the custom for members of bachelor companies, some of whom would always be living in barracks at court, to take boy-wives. [...] Most young men consequently married late -- well into their twenties and thirties -- and, because girls were engaged (in a legal sense married) very young, often at birth, the only way youths could obtain satisfaction from a woman was in adultery. [...] The boys performed many of the smaller services a woman performs daily for her husband [...] Also, the boywife carried his husband's shield when on a journey. It should be understood that he performed these services lest it might be thought that the relationship was entirely of a sexual nature; it will be appreciated that it had an educational side to it. With regard to the sexual side, at night the boy slept with his lover, who had intercourse with him between his thighs (Azande expressed disgust at the suggestion of anal penetration). The boys got what pleasure they could by friction of their organs on the husband's belly or groin. However, even though there was this side to the relationship, it was clear from Zande accounts that there was also the comfort of a nightly sharing of the bed with a companion."
			*: "The word "boy" (kumba gude) must, it would appear, be interpreted liberally, for as far as I could judge from what I was told the lads might have been anywhere between about twelve and twenty years of age"
			*: "I have pointedly used the terms "wife,""husband," and "marriage," for, as the texts will make clear, the relationship was, for so long as it lasted, a legal union on the model of a normal marriage. The warrior paid bridewealth (some five spears or more) to the parents of his boy and performed services for them as he would have done had he married their daughter; if he proved to be a good son-in-law they might later replace the son by a daughter. Also, if another man had relations with his boy he could, I was told, sue him at court for adultery."

	== See also ==		== See also ==

PCMA

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	PCMA is responsible for [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|various online controversies]], usually involving the mobilization of conservative outrage via psychological manipulation on platforms such as X (Twitter). Members of the workgroup offer live support and knowledge to others, and collaborate to make phone verification, cryptocurrency and account-creation services more widely available.		PCMA is responsible for [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|various online controversies]], usually involving the mobilization of conservative outrage via psychological manipulation on platforms such as X (Twitter). Members of the workgroup offer live support and knowledge to others, and collaborate to make phone verification, cryptocurrency and account-creation services more widely available.

	PCMA members have been described as trolls who use sock accounts to achieve their ends, but have employed a variety of tactics including arguing at length with members of the public, and impersonating [[~~antis~~]] in order to lose debates and project bad optics.		PCMA members have been described as trolls who use sock accounts to achieve their ends, but have employed a variety of tactics including arguing at length with members of the public, and impersonating [[anti]]s in order to lose debates and project bad optics.

	In 2023, PCMA and the Yesmap server, having achieved most of its publicity goals via the prior strategy, each moved independently towards a model of increasing visibility via community-building efforts such as expansion of the [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]]. A piece in the New Zealand media was titled to reflect a PCMA infiltrator's opinion of the group.<ref>[https://goodoil.news/organised-aggrieved-and-determined-to-win/ Organised, Aggrieved and Determined to Win]</ref>		In 2023, PCMA and the Yesmap server, having achieved most of its publicity goals via the prior strategy, each moved independently towards a model of increasing visibility via community-building efforts such as expansion of the [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]]. A piece in the New Zealand media was titled to reflect a PCMA infiltrator's opinion of the group.<ref>[https://goodoil.news/organised-aggrieved-and-determined-to-win/ Organised, Aggrieved and Determined to Win]</ref>

Minor Attracted Person

Jim Burton — Wed, 08 Jul 2026 12:47:20 GMT

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	In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.		In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.

	Throughout 2025, muted controversy continued to arise over events such as the [[B4U-ACT]] conference, with Donald Trump himself being ironically described as a MAP, and his assassinated supporter [[Wikipedia:Charlie Kirk\|Charlie Kirk]] (incorrectly) as an apologist by liberals. Shortly after the Kirk assassination, the non-offending MAP Activist, Connor Weston staged a gun stunt at a Wikipedia convention to raise awareness for his cause, as he saw it.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/nyc-wikipedia-conference-halted-when-non-offending-pedophile-storms-stage-points-gun-at-own-head/ NYC Wikipedia conference halted when ‘non-offending pedophile’ storms stage, points gun at own head], [https://reduxx.info/pedophile-activist-who-disrupted-wikipedia-conference-was-member-of-influential-advocacy-group/], [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/19/ohio-man-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/nyregion/wikipedia-conference-gunman.html], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/armed-man-upends-nyc-wikipedia-conference-rcna238250], [https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/10/17/gunman-waving-weapon-around-at-nyc-wikipedia-conference-nabbed/], [https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-wikipedia-conference-gun-threat-arrest-10897284], [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15204179/wikipedia-conference-gunman-volunteers-new-york.html], [https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/18/non-offending-pedophile-rainbow-flag-threatens-shoot-himself-wikipedia-conference-new-york-city/], [https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/wikipedia-contributors-block-armed-man-from-shooting-self/amp/], [https://local12.com/news/nation-world/ohio-wikipedia-conference-suicide-threat-gun-kill-himself-pedophile-non-offending-maps-minor-attracted-person-shooting-threatens-threatened-convention-event-stage-stormed-climbed-attack-arrest-arrested], [https://thepostmillennial.com/man-declares-himself-a-non-contact-pedophile-puts-gun-to-his-head-during-nyc-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gunman-arrested-storming-stage-nyc-wikipedia-conference_n_68f3c144e4b085924979a793]</ref> This was in reality, the desperate act of a person suffering from secondary mental health issues related to his sexuality. In 2026, there was continued online controversy surrounding the MAP Flag, ultimately related to the anti-MAP DelusionPosting account, [[PCMA]] and online fandoms said to be ridden with pedophilia. MAP websites such as [[Mu]] were described as a criminal pedophile ring by online researchers, provoking official condemnation.		Throughout 2025, muted controversy continued to arise over events such as the [[B4U-ACT]] conference, with Donald Trump himself being ironically described as a MAP, and his assassinated supporter [[Wikipedia:Charlie Kirk\|Charlie Kirk]] (incorrectly) as an apologist by liberals. Shortly after the Kirk assassination, the non-offending MAP Activist, Connor Weston staged a gun stunt at a Wikipedia convention to raise awareness for his cause, as he saw it.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/nyc-wikipedia-conference-halted-when-non-offending-pedophile-storms-stage-points-gun-at-own-head/ NYC Wikipedia conference halted when ‘non-offending pedophile’ storms stage, points gun at own head], [https://reduxx.info/pedophile-activist-who-disrupted-wikipedia-conference-was-member-of-influential-advocacy-group/], [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/19/ohio-man-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/nyregion/wikipedia-conference-gunman.html], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/armed-man-upends-nyc-wikipedia-conference-rcna238250], [https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/10/17/gunman-waving-weapon-around-at-nyc-wikipedia-conference-nabbed/], [https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-wikipedia-conference-gun-threat-arrest-10897284], [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15204179/wikipedia-conference-gunman-volunteers-new-york.html], [https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/18/non-offending-pedophile-rainbow-flag-threatens-shoot-himself-wikipedia-conference-new-york-city/], [https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/wikipedia-contributors-block-armed-man-from-shooting-self/amp/], [https://local12.com/news/nation-world/ohio-wikipedia-conference-suicide-threat-gun-kill-himself-pedophile-non-offending-maps-minor-attracted-person-shooting-threatens-threatened-convention-event-stage-stormed-climbed-attack-arrest-arrested], [https://thepostmillennial.com/man-declares-himself-a-non-contact-pedophile-puts-gun-to-his-head-during-nyc-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gunman-arrested-storming-stage-nyc-wikipedia-conference_n_68f3c144e4b085924979a793]</ref> This was in reality, the desperate act of a person suffering from secondary mental health issues related to his sexuality. In 2026, there was continued online controversy surrounding the MAP Flag, ultimately related to the anti-MAP DelusionPosting account, [[PCMA]]'s historical output and online fandoms said to be ridden with pedophilia. MAP websites such as [[Mu]] were described as a criminal pedophile ring by online researchers, provoking official condemnation.

	Later in 2026, the [[California]]n lawyer, Michael Ehline (who uses the [[Wikipedia:Vanity number\|vanity number]] 833-LETS SUE) published a mocked-up online graphic of himself standing in front of the [[MAP Flag]] in an attempt to encourage parents to take legal action against clergymen and school counselors, who he claims may in fact be MAPs.<ref>[https://ehlinelaw.com/practice/assault-battery/sex-abuse/child-abuse-molestation Ehline Law: Child Abuse and Injury Lawyers Los Angeles]</ref>		Later in 2026, the [[California]]n lawyer, Michael Ehline (who uses the [[Wikipedia:Vanity number\|vanity number]] 833-LETS SUE) published a mocked-up online graphic of himself standing in front of the [[MAP Flag]] in an attempt to encourage parents to take legal action against clergymen and school counselors, who he claims may in fact be MAPs.<ref>[https://ehlinelaw.com/practice/assault-battery/sex-abuse/child-abuse-molestation Ehline Law: Child Abuse and Injury Lawyers Los Angeles]</ref>

Reflex anal dilation

Jim Burton — Wed, 08 Jul 2026 12:43:27 GMT

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	__NOTOC__'''Reflex anal dilation''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal dilation: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal dilation associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>		__NOTOC__'''[[Wikipedia:Reflex anal dilation\|Reflex anal dilation]]''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal dilation: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal dilation associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>

	Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal dilation is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan		Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal dilation is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan

Reflex anal dilatation

Jim Burton — Wed, 08 Jul 2026 12:43:01 GMT

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	__NOTOC__'''Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~ associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>		__NOTOC__'''Reflex anal dilation''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal dilation: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal dilation associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>

	Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal ~~dilatation~~ is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan		Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal dilation is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan
	Peterson, Michael Durfee, Kevin Coulter, Child abuse and neglect: Guidelines for Identification, Assessment, and Case Management, Volcano Press, 2003, ISBN: 1884244211</ref><ref>Joyce A. Adams, Rich A. Kaplan, Suzanne P. Starling, Neha H. Mehta, Martin A. Finkel, Ann S. Botash, Nancy D. Kellogg and Robert A. Shapiro, Guidelines for Medical Care of Children Who May Have Been Sexually Abused, Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Volume 20, Issue 3, June 2007, Pages 163-172</ref>		Peterson, Michael Durfee, Kevin Coulter, Child abuse and neglect: Guidelines for Identification, Assessment, and Case Management, Volcano Press, 2003, ISBN: 1884244211</ref><ref>Joyce A. Adams, Rich A. Kaplan, Suzanne P. Starling, Neha H. Mehta, Martin A. Finkel, Ann S. Botash, Nancy D. Kellogg and Robert A. Shapiro, Guidelines for Medical Care of Children Who May Have Been Sexually Abused, Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Volume 20, Issue 3, June 2007, Pages 163-172</ref>

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	==Comparison with [[anal wink]]==		==Comparison with [[anal wink]]==

	''Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[anal wink]], an American theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.		''Reflex anal dilation'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[anal wink]], an American theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.

	==External Links==		==External Links==

Debate Guide: There is no law that prohibits minors

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	Secondly, you could similarly say that a gay teenager is "free" to pursue deep and meaningful discussion of their sexuality with their violent/homophobic parents. While today, this argument would be dismissed as absurd, it is also the case that consent/grooming/CP laws set up a hostile environment that forbids minors full freedom over their interactions with adults.		Secondly, you could similarly say that a gay teenager is "free" to pursue deep and meaningful discussion of their sexuality with their violent/homophobic parents. While today, this argument would be dismissed as absurd, it is also the case that consent/grooming/CP laws set up a hostile environment that forbids minors full freedom over their interactions with adults.

	Granted, assuming the minor partner is not the "perpetrator" or engaged in sex work, there is usually no technical ''infraction'' of the law on their part. However, they are effectively forced to stay silent about these relationships, or otherwise face severe social [[Research: Secondary Harm\|fallout]], including no end of [[Debate Guide: Power disparity\|gaslighting]] and social shaming related to ongoing relationships. A great deal of guilt is also caused by self blame - i.e. the feeling of bringing harm unto the person the younger partner considers to have been a friend, looking out for them. Extensive legal proceedings, interrogation, and [[Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~\|intrusive physical examinations]], leave young people in a catch-22 situation regardless of whether or not the relationship is abusive. The same goes for the older partner, in turn negatively impacting the quality of relationship for the minor.		Granted, assuming the minor partner is not the "perpetrator" or engaged in sex work, there is usually no technical ''infraction'' of the law on their part. However, they are effectively forced to stay silent about these relationships, or otherwise face severe social [[Research: Secondary Harm\|fallout]], including no end of [[Debate Guide: Power disparity\|gaslighting]] and social shaming related to ongoing relationships. A great deal of guilt is also caused by self blame - i.e. the feeling of bringing harm unto the person the younger partner considers to have been a friend, looking out for them. Extensive legal proceedings, interrogation, and [[Reflex anal dilation\|intrusive physical examinations]], leave young people in a catch-22 situation regardless of whether or not the relationship is abusive. The same goes for the older partner, in turn negatively impacting the quality of relationship for the minor.

	==See also==		==See also==

Valerie Sinason

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	*[[Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~\|Marietta Higgs]] - Another disgraced CSA alarmist who continued in employment.		*[[Reflex anal dilation\|Marietta Higgs]] - Another disgraced CSA alarmist who continued in employment.

	==References==		==References==

Anal wink

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	It has since been established that Woodling made insuficient efforts or proof to validate his test, and therefore has been criticized. Woodling's pseudoscientific testimony during the trial of [[Ray Buckey]] contributed to Buckey spending five years in prison without bail. Buckey was later released without conviction.		It has since been established that Woodling made insuficient efforts or proof to validate his test, and therefore has been criticized. Woodling's pseudoscientific testimony during the trial of [[Ray Buckey]] contributed to Buckey spending five years in prison without bail. Buckey was later released without conviction.

	==Comparison with [[reflex anal ~~dilatation~~]]==		==Comparison with [[reflex anal dilation]]==

	''Anal wink'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[reflex anal ~~dilatation~~]], a British theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.		''Anal wink'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[reflex anal dilation]], a British theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.

	==External links==		==External links==

Minor Attracted Person

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	===Timeline===		===Timeline===

	:''For more examples, see [[MAPocalypse]].''		:''For more examples and sources for some of the events mentioned, see [[MAPocalypse]].''

	One example of such publicity was the controversy<ref>Examples of Walker's news coverage: [https://fstube.net/w/7NEJoLzSgRVizXchnvmssu], [https://fstube.net/w/sAt9ydCyNRCBdP7vjsksKe]</ref> surrounding [[Allyn Walker]] in 2021, followed by further social media outcry in 2022, this time over a video made by Miranda Galbreath, a licensed Sex Therapist who was attempting to challenge the stigma on MAPs.<ref>[https://www.foxnews.com/us/licensed-pennsylvania-sex-therapist-defends-minor-attracted-persons-viral-video Licensed Pennsylvania sex therapist defends 'minor-attracted persons' in viral video]</ref> This video, circulated by '''[[Wikipedia:Libs of TikTok\|Libs of TikTok]]''', went on to be viewed around 3 million times on various platforms, with network coverage from Rowan Dean<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/tAmT8Zq5sLomxyjaw9cjD8 FS Tube: Rowan Dean]</ref> and Bev Turner<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/sgXrRDY6d7Xt2PiLPZFGKR FS Tube: Bev Turner]</ref> in Australia and the UK respectively. Turner suggested that the acceptance of MAPs might be a ploy to diffuse public unrest come the time a guest-list for [[Wikipedia:Jeffrey Epstein\|Jeffrey Epstein's]] sex parties is released.<ref>[https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/aligning-a-criminal-act-with-normal-sexual-preferences-is-potentially-very-dangerous-lets-be-awake-to-this-phenomenon-says-bev-turner/351764 GB News - Bev Turner transcript]</ref>		One example of such publicity was the controversy<ref>Examples of Walker's news coverage: [https://fstube.net/w/7NEJoLzSgRVizXchnvmssu], [https://fstube.net/w/sAt9ydCyNRCBdP7vjsksKe]</ref> surrounding [[Allyn Walker]] in 2021, followed by further social media outcry in 2022, this time over a video made by Miranda Galbreath, a licensed Sex Therapist who was attempting to challenge the stigma on MAPs.<ref>[https://www.foxnews.com/us/licensed-pennsylvania-sex-therapist-defends-minor-attracted-persons-viral-video Licensed Pennsylvania sex therapist defends 'minor-attracted persons' in viral video]</ref> This video, circulated by '''[[Wikipedia:Libs of TikTok\|Libs of TikTok]]''', went on to be viewed around 3 million times on various platforms, with network coverage from Rowan Dean<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/tAmT8Zq5sLomxyjaw9cjD8 FS Tube: Rowan Dean]</ref> and Bev Turner<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/sgXrRDY6d7Xt2PiLPZFGKR FS Tube: Bev Turner]</ref> in Australia and the UK respectively. Turner suggested that the acceptance of MAPs might be a ploy to diffuse public unrest come the time a guest-list for [[Wikipedia:Jeffrey Epstein\|Jeffrey Epstein's]] sex parties is released.<ref>[https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/aligning-a-criminal-act-with-normal-sexual-preferences-is-potentially-very-dangerous-lets-be-awake-to-this-phenomenon-says-bev-turner/351764 GB News - Bev Turner transcript]</ref>
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	In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.		In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.

			Throughout 2025, muted controversy continued to arise over events such as the [[B4U-ACT]] conference, with Donald Trump himself being ironically described as a MAP, and his assassinated supporter [[Wikipedia:Charlie Kirk\|Charlie Kirk]] (incorrectly) as an apologist by liberals. Shortly after the Kirk assassination, the non-offending MAP Activist, Connor Weston staged a gun stunt at a Wikipedia convention to raise awareness for his cause, as he saw it.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/nyc-wikipedia-conference-halted-when-non-offending-pedophile-storms-stage-points-gun-at-own-head/ NYC Wikipedia conference halted when ‘non-offending pedophile’ storms stage, points gun at own head], [https://reduxx.info/pedophile-activist-who-disrupted-wikipedia-conference-was-member-of-influential-advocacy-group/], [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/19/ohio-man-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/nyregion/wikipedia-conference-gunman.html], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/armed-man-upends-nyc-wikipedia-conference-rcna238250], [https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/10/17/gunman-waving-weapon-around-at-nyc-wikipedia-conference-nabbed/], [https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-wikipedia-conference-gun-threat-arrest-10897284], [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15204179/wikipedia-conference-gunman-volunteers-new-york.html], [https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/18/non-offending-pedophile-rainbow-flag-threatens-shoot-himself-wikipedia-conference-new-york-city/], [https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/wikipedia-contributors-block-armed-man-from-shooting-self/amp/], [https://local12.com/news/nation-world/ohio-wikipedia-conference-suicide-threat-gun-kill-himself-pedophile-non-offending-maps-minor-attracted-person-shooting-threatens-threatened-convention-event-stage-stormed-climbed-attack-arrest-arrested], [https://thepostmillennial.com/man-declares-himself-a-non-contact-pedophile-puts-gun-to-his-head-during-nyc-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gunman-arrested-storming-stage-nyc-wikipedia-conference_n_68f3c144e4b085924979a793]</ref> This was in reality, the desperate act of a person suffering from secondary mental health issues related to his sexuality. In 2026, there was continued online controversy surrounding the MAP Flag, ultimately related to the anti-MAP DelusionPosting account, [[PCMA]] and online fandoms said to be ridden with pedophilia. MAP websites such as [[Mu]] were described as a criminal pedophile ring by online researchers, provoking official condemnation.

			Later in 2026, the [[California]]n lawyer, Michael Ehline (who uses the [[Wikipedia:Vanity number\|vanity number]] 833-LETS SUE) published a mocked-up online graphic of himself standing in front of the [[MAP Flag]] in an attempt to encourage parents to take legal action against clergymen and school counselors, who he claims may in fact be MAPs.<ref>[https://ehlinelaw.com/practice/assault-battery/sex-abuse/child-abuse-molestation Ehline Law: Child Abuse and Injury Lawyers Los Angeles]</ref>

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	[[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|Wikipedia]] maintained and then deleted a disambiguation page for MAP, between 2019 and late 2021, shortly after the Allyn Walker controversy.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190501000000*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia Archive from 2019 onwards]</ref><ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia first AfD]</ref> The term was then erroneously redirected to [[Pedophilia]] for five months, before being corrected to [[Chronophilia]] by an editor. It was then pointed to a Wiktionary entry in what appeared to be a "halfway house" between acknowledging and denying its notability. In late April, 2023, a high-quality article was for the first time presented on the platform, describing the umbrella term, research and some controversy.<ref>[https://archive.is/q1ttr First version of improved MAP article on Wikipedia]</ref> It was soon deleted, along with other articles, following its own internal controversy at Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|described in our article]]).		[[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|Wikipedia]] maintained and then deleted a disambiguation page for MAP, between 2019 and late 2021, shortly after the Allyn Walker controversy.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190501000000*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia Archive from 2019 onwards]</ref><ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia first AfD]</ref> The term was then erroneously redirected to [[Pedophilia]] for five months, before being corrected to [[Chronophilia]] by an editor. It was then pointed to a Wiktionary entry in what appeared to be a "halfway house" between acknowledging and denying its notability. In late April, 2023, a high-quality article was for the first time presented on the platform, describing the umbrella term, research and some controversy.<ref>[https://archive.is/q1ttr First version of improved MAP article on Wikipedia]</ref> It was soon deleted, along with other articles, following its own internal controversy at Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|described in our article]]). The Wiktionary entry is once again accessible from this page, and has itself alternated between describing the term as an euphemism for pedophilia (singularly) or a range of [[chronophilia]]s.

	==Academic controversy==		==Academic controversy==

Joan Nestle

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	__NOTOC__[[wikipedia:Joan_Nestle\|'''Joan Nestle''']] (born May 12, 1940) is a Lambda Award-winning writer and editor and a founder of the Lesbian Herstory Archives. Cited by [[Feminism\|feminist]] civil liberties activist [[Nettie Pollard]] for having written about [[Intergenerational_Lesbianism\|intergenerational lesbianism]], age-gap sex and childhood sexuality, Nestle also consistently advocated against [[censorship]] of dissident views. In her 1980 talk titled “Some Understandings,” Nestle defends the right for gay men to speak about their experience of intergenerational sex, and advocates against scapegoating.		{{Template:Ac}}__NOTOC__[[wikipedia:Joan_Nestle\|'''Joan Nestle''']] (born May 12, 1940) is a Lambda Award-winning writer and editor and a founder of the Lesbian Herstory Archives. Cited by [[Feminism\|feminist]] civil liberties activist [[Nettie Pollard]] for having written about [[Intergenerational_Lesbianism\|intergenerational lesbianism]], age-gap sex and childhood sexuality, Nestle also consistently advocated against [[censorship]] of dissident views. In her 1980 talk titled “Some Understandings,” Nestle defends the right for gay men to speak about their experience of intergenerational sex, and advocates against scapegoating.

	As a lesbian who came to erotic awareness in the 1950s and into young adulthood in the 1960s, Joan defended the lesbian activism and sexual culture of the 1950s against charges that it was reactionary, rather than a product of its time. Based on her experience living through periods where lesbianism was considered a sickness / mental illness, an aberration and highly stigmatized, she advocated for solidarity with other sexual minorities and against censorship and lesbian co-operation with the carceral State.		As a lesbian who came to erotic awareness in the 1950s and into young adulthood in the 1960s, Joan defended the lesbian activism and sexual culture of the 1950s against charges that it was reactionary, rather than a product of its time. Based on her experience living through periods where lesbianism was considered a sickness / mental illness, an aberration and highly stigmatized, she advocated for solidarity with other sexual minorities and against censorship and lesbian co-operation with the carceral State.

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Childlove

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	{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' ~~was a popular~~ intra-community term for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]] in the 00s ~~(being etymologically identical to the latter)~~. It continues to be used occasionally for both bisexual and gender-exclusive pedophiles.		{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' is an intra-community term for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]], notable for its popularity and public reception in the 00s. It continues to be used occasionally for both bisexual and gender-exclusive pedophiles due to its etymological similarity to pedophile, a term of Greek origin.

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	Various symbolism has been tied to CL identity. These included an "AmaroSymbol", proposed by [[AP]], and later submitted to Newgon's "[[Flag proposal 2009]]".		Various symbolism has been tied to CL identity, the CLogo being by far the most widely publicised, and the Child Logo being the most popular among pedophiles.

			These included an "AmaroSymbol", proposed by [[AP]], and later submitted to Newgon's "[[Flag proposal 2009]]".

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			File:Clogo.png\|<small>CLogo - commonly used in the 00s, still used by some online and Dutch activists. Led to a 2023 controversy concerning its similarity to that of a German Transsexual organization<ref>See, e.g. [https://reduxx.info/germany-woman-warned-by-court-after-questioning-butterfly-symbol-used-by-trans-rights-group/ Reduxx], and [https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=46874 Queer.de]</ref> and Bluesky social in 2024<ref>[https://tribune.com.pk/story/2510828/bluesky-faces-allegations-over-butterfly-logo-linked-to-child-abuse-symbols Baseless theory Bluesky (which censors MAPs) is linked to the CLogo]</ref></small>
	File:Clomal.png\|[[Rookiee]]'s Childlove Media Activism Logo - incorporating [[GLogo]] and [[BLogo]]. Created for [[Pedologues]].		File:Clomal.png\|[[Rookiee]]'s Childlove Media Activism Logo - incorporating [[GLogo]] and [[BLogo]]. Created for [[Pedologues]].
	File:Clogo.png\|<small>CLogo - commonly used in the 00s, still used by some online and Dutch activists. Led to a 2023 controversy concerning its similarity to that of a German Transsexual organization<ref>See, e.g. [https://reduxx.info/germany-woman-warned-by-court-after-questioning-butterfly-symbol-used-by-trans-rights-group/ Reduxx], and [https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=46874 Queer.de]</ref> and Bluesky social in 2024<ref>[https://tribune.com.pk/story/2510828/bluesky-faces-allegations-over-butterfly-logo-linked-to-child-abuse-symbols Baseless theory Bluesky (which censors MAPs) is linked to the CLogo]</ref></small>
	File:CLLLL.png\|Child Logo - used occasionally as a [[GLogo]]/[[BLogo]] alternative in novel flag format.		File:CLLLL.png\|Child Logo - used occasionally as a [[GLogo]]/[[BLogo]] alternative in novel flag format.
	File:3DCLogo.png\| 3D Child Logo - created by Wardyn		File:3DCLogo.png\| 3D Child Logo - created by Wardyn
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	*[https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-the-clogo-archive/ CLogo Archive (Steve Diamond)] - various adopted and unadopted symbolism.		*[https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-the-clogo-archive/ CLogo Archive (Steve Diamond)] - various adopted and unadopted symbolism.
	*[https://archive.ph/U1I9X CLogo Archive (official)] - This was the CLogo project home, maintained by the original group of activists.		*[https://archive.ph/U1I9X CLogo Archive (official)] - This was the CLogo project home, maintained by the original group of activists.
	*[https://web.archive.org/web/20051101165116/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlove_movement Childlove Movement (Wikipedia Archive)] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20051031040826/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlover Childlover] - The term was once popular enough to merit Wikipedia articles.		*[https://web.archive.org/web/20051101165116/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlove_movement Childlove Movement (Wikipedia Archive)] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20051031040826/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlover Childlover] - The term was once popular enough to merit Wikipedia articles, which referred to the CLogo campaign.

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Feminism

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	* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]].		* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]].
	* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority. See section on antifeminist theories later in article.		* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority. See [[#Antifeminist_theory\|section on antifeminist theories]] later in article.
	* Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onward, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], which represent a nexus of psychiatry and ideological groups such as conservatives and feminists.		* Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onward, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], which represent a nexus of psychiatry and ideological groups such as conservatives and feminists.
	* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history, resulting in the failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.		* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history, resulting in the failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.

Feminism

Jim Burton — Tue, 07 Jul 2026 09:36:47 GMT

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	* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. ~~There had even been efforts to raise the age~~ of consent to 21 years in the United States in the 1890s.<ref>[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/ What Raising the Age of Sexual Consent Taught Women About the Vote] - Smithsonian Magazine (~~August 26~~, ~~2020~~)</~~ref> It has been theorized that the goal of raising the age~~ of consent and making it socially unacceptable for men to mate with women near the beginning of their reproductive age was an attack by feminists and sex workers against their competing younger counterparts.~~<ref>[https://theantifeminist~~.~~com/different-types-of-age-cuck-explained/ "Different Types of Age Cuck Explained" - The AntiFeminist] (February 18, 2026)</ref><ref>[[Essay:A Critical Look At the Age of Consent Laws]]</ref>~~ Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and ~~onwards~~, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], ~~sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary~~ feminists.		* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]].
	* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception ~~that~~ this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.		* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority. See section on antifeminist theories later in article.
	* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.		* Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onward, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], which represent a nexus of psychiatry and ideological groups such as conservatives and feminists.
			* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history, resulting in the failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.
	* Failure of feminists to identify with or even tentatively address issues related to masculinity. Prof. [[John P. De Cecco]] argued that identity [[Wikipedia:Essentialism\|essentialist]] feminists "are jealous of men who show the kind of nurturance that only females are supposed to posses".<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:John_de_cecco_paidika_issue_3_interview.pdf De Cecco Paidika interview (1987)] - (Archived PDF copy).</ref>		* Failure of feminists to identify with or even tentatively address issues related to masculinity. Prof. [[John P. De Cecco]] argued that identity [[Wikipedia:Essentialism\|essentialist]] feminists "are jealous of men who show the kind of nurturance that only females are supposed to posses".<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:John_de_cecco_paidika_issue_3_interview.pdf De Cecco Paidika interview (1987)] - (Archived PDF copy).</ref>
	* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority.
	* Attempts by feminists to represent (gay) youth and encourage their "rights" and "participation" whilst at the same time [[Ageism\|infantalizing]] them and denying their autonomy.		* Attempts by feminists to represent (gay) youth and encourage their "rights" and "participation" whilst at the same time [[Ageism\|infantalizing]] them and denying their autonomy.
	* Alliances between radical feminists (TERFs/SWERFs) and violently anti-pedophile ideologies - particularly those of the right. These alliances have been rejuvenated after the [[MAP Movement]] achieved basic visibility in the 2020s.		* Alliances between radical feminists (TERFs/SWERFs) and violently anti-pedophile ideologies - particularly those of the right. These alliances have been rejuvenated after the [[MAP Movement]] achieved basic visibility in the 2020s.
	* Plain misogyny.

	~~Whilst many of these grievances may have more than a firm foothold in reality, it can certainly be said that their airing has done little good for the cause of~~ [[~~boylove~~]] or MAPs ~~in general~~.		Older MAP community websites such as [[BoyChat]] would also reveal that misogyny and conspiratorialism play roles in anti-feminist and anti-female sentiment among a minority of MAPs.

	===MAP-Exclusionary Radical Feminism===		===MAP-Exclusionary Radical Feminism===
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	<blockquote>''Historically, crusades to "save the children" emerge at the moment when progressive movements are beginning to falter. This fits the 1980s context. As social programs serving families were severely reduced, sexual abuse narratives were one way to speak about family pain. Ultimately, the crusades against child abuse gained support from all sides: from feminists ''[...]'' and liberals ''[...]''; conservatives anxious about sexual hedonism and evangelical Christians anxious about sexual sin; therapists, attorneys, and criminologists who sought to expand their professional authority; a sensation-hungry media seeking new sexual narratives; and politicians seeking a cause sure to attract support. In addition, Reagan and Bush officials promoted the idea that the greatest threat to American children was pornography rather than poverty. They funded reports on child abuse and widely disseminated the most extreme claims about the sexual victimization of children.'' (p. 452).</blockquote>		<blockquote>''Historically, crusades to "save the children" emerge at the moment when progressive movements are beginning to falter. This fits the 1980s context. As social programs serving families were severely reduced, sexual abuse narratives were one way to speak about family pain. Ultimately, the crusades against child abuse gained support from all sides: from feminists ''[...]'' and liberals ''[...]''; conservatives anxious about sexual hedonism and evangelical Christians anxious about sexual sin; therapists, attorneys, and criminologists who sought to expand their professional authority; a sensation-hungry media seeking new sexual narratives; and politicians seeking a cause sure to attract support. In addition, Reagan and Bush officials promoted the idea that the greatest threat to American children was pornography rather than poverty. They funded reports on child abuse and widely disseminated the most extreme claims about the sexual victimization of children.'' (p. 452).</blockquote>

			===Antifeminist theory===

			It has been theorized by [[Incelosphere\|Incels]], antifeminists and [[Masculism\|masculinists]] that the goal of raising the age of consent and making it socially unacceptable for men to mate with women near the beginning of their reproductive age was an attack by feminists and sex workers against their competing younger counterparts.<ref>[https://theantifeminist.com/different-types-of-age-cuck-explained/ "Different Types of Age Cuck Explained" - The AntiFeminist] (February 18, 2026)</ref><ref>[[Essay:A Critical Look At the Age of Consent Laws]]</ref> There had even been efforts to raise the age of consent to 21 years in the United States in the 1890s,<ref>[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/ What Raising the Age of Sexual Consent Taught Women About the Vote] - Smithsonian Magazine (August 26, 2020)</ref> which are ascribed by such groups to feminist civil organizing.

	==See also==		==See also==

Feminism

JJ1 — Tue, 07 Jul 2026 07:29:35 GMT

Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs: Feminists attacking competition

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	* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onwards, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary feminists.		* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. There had even been efforts to raise the age of consent to 21 years in the United States in the 1890s.<ref>[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/ What Raising the Age of Sexual Consent Taught Women About the Vote] - Smithsonian Magazine (August 26, 2020)</ref> It has been theorized that the goal of raising the age of consent and making it socially unacceptable for men to mate with women near the beginning of their reproductive age was an attack by feminists and sex workers against their competing younger counterparts.<ref>[https://theantifeminist.com/different-types-of-age-cuck-explained/ "Different Types of Age Cuck Explained" - The AntiFeminist] (February 18, 2026)</ref><ref>[[Essay:A Critical Look At the Age of Consent Laws]]</ref> Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onwards, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary feminists.
	* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception that this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.		* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception that this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.
	* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.		* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.

Special Article: Adverse effects of hysteria

JJ1 — Mon, 06 Jul 2026 23:56:14 GMT

added year

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	* '''[https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ Perverted Justice. Sex offender laws represent the triumph of outrage over reason.] (2011)''' [https://web.archive.org/web/20220808015126/https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ copy]		* '''[https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ Perverted Justice. Sex offender laws represent the triumph of outrage over reason.] (2011)''' [https://web.archive.org/web/20220808015126/https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ copy]
	*:''"For example, "the minimum sentence for possession of an image of child pornography is longer than the presumptive sentence for rape or aggravated assault. A presumptive sentence for possession of two images of child pornography…is harsher than the sentences for second degree murder or sexual assault of a child under twelve….For molesting a child, one might receive the same sentence that Berger has received for possessing one picture.""''		*:''"For example, "the minimum sentence for possession of an image of child pornography is longer than the presumptive sentence for rape or aggravated assault. A presumptive sentence for possession of two images of child pornography…is harsher than the sentences for second degree murder or sexual assault of a child under twelve….For molesting a child, one might receive the same sentence that Berger has received for possessing one picture.""''
			* '''[http://archive.today/2015.01.03-230512/http://www.today.com/id/43909060/ns/today-today_news/t/hes-labeled-sex-offender-sleeping-his-own-wife/%23.VKh1iX3LfK4 For sleeping with own wife, he’s labeled sex offender] (2011)'''
			*: ''"When Frank Rodriguez and his future wife first starting having sex, they considered themselves just two of millions of teenagers who were in love. However, their love was against the law in Texas, so Rodriguez soon joined a more exclusive group, one in which no one seeks membership: He became one of more than 650,000 registered sex offenders in the United States. And today, after 15 years and four daughters with his high school sweetheart, the 34-year-old suburban father still wears the modern-day equivalent of the Scarlet Letter."''

	* '''[https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15528941/Cody-Pester-dating-former-student-Nebraska.html Teacher, 26, faces 20 years behind bars for dating high school graduate, 18] (2026)'''		* '''[https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15528941/Cody-Pester-dating-former-student-Nebraska.html Teacher, 26, faces 20 years behind bars for dating high school graduate, 18] (2026)'''

Communism

GeoTerra — Mon, 06 Jul 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Age-disparate sex: Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong

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	''Even though local lore discouraged affairs with exiles, the local girls were bound to be attracted to these worldly, educated revolutionaries in their midst. This statutory rape was not rape by force but an old-fashioned seduction.''</blockquote>		''Even though local lore discouraged affairs with exiles, the local girls were bound to be attracted to these worldly, educated revolutionaries in their midst. This statutory rape was not rape by force but an old-fashioned seduction.''</blockquote>

	~~Monifore~~ notes the [[age of consent]] among other important contextual factors:		Montefiore notes the [[age of consent]] among other important contextual factors:

	<blockquote>''Fourteen was technically the age of consent in the Russian and European regions of the Tsarist Empire, but this was Siberia. Besides, there was no precise legal concept of statutory rape in Tsarist law: for the police, it was as much a crime “against female honour” as a violation of her father’s chattels. The seducer’s agreement to marry and then the exchange of marriage vows were seen as rectifying an untoward situation.''</blockquote>		<blockquote>''Fourteen was technically the age of consent in the Russian and European regions of the Tsarist Empire, but this was Siberia. Besides, there was no precise legal concept of statutory rape in Tsarist law: for the police, it was as much a crime “against female honour” as a violation of her father’s chattels. The seducer’s agreement to marry and then the exchange of marriage vows were seen as rectifying an untoward situation.''</blockquote>

Minor Attracted Person

Jim Burton — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 20:43:43 GMT

MAP Movement

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	[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]		[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]
	There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.		There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second/third-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.

	MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.		MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.

Childlove

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	{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' was a popular community ~~euphemism~~ for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]] in the 00s ~~and~~ continues to be used ~~in two senses:~~		{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' was a popular intra-community term for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]] in the 00s (being etymologically identical to the latter). It continues to be used occasionally for both bisexual and gender-exclusive pedophiles.

	* As a label for ~~people attracted to~~ both ~~prepubescent boys~~ and ~~girls, and~~
	* As a generic term for someone who may be attracted to either prepubescent boys or girls.

	==Popularization in the mid-00s==		==Popularization in the mid-00s==

MAP Flag

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Later controversies

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	In June, 2021, a video posted by the iconic children’s TV show ''Blues Clues'', in support of Pride month, appeared to show an inverted NOMAP Flag in one of its segments, leading to further hysteria on social media. Some users have since pointed out that the flag represented appeared to be the Gender Questioning Flag.<ref>[https://libreddit.esmailelbob.xyz/r/questions/comments/nqlsf4/does_the_blues_clues_lgbt_pride_parade_episode/ Reddit: Blues Clues]</ref>		In June, 2021, a video posted by the iconic children’s TV show ''Blues Clues'', in support of Pride month, appeared to show an inverted NOMAP Flag in one of its segments, leading to further hysteria on social media. Some users have since pointed out that the flag represented appeared to be the Gender Questioning Flag.<ref>[https://libreddit.esmailelbob.xyz/r/questions/comments/nqlsf4/does_the_blues_clues_lgbt_pride_parade_episode/ Reddit: Blues Clues]</ref>

	In 2023, considerable controversy ensued after a Twitter user revealed what she described as a [[Youth Attracted Person]] flag (featured in article).		In 2023, considerable controversy ensued after a Twitter user revealed what she described as a [[Youth Attracted Person]] flag (featured in article).

			Other controversies have involved use of the flag in [[MAP Merch Shop\|merchandising]], and occasional minor virals in which the flag graphic is seen online and sometimes in meatspaces. The general view among MAPs as to the value of these events is a positive one, since they are seen as normalizing the presence of semi-open MAPs in the community. A notable [[MAPocalypse\|controversy]] in 2026 involved the "Pedo Lives Matter" variant of the [[Mu\|2023 Union MAP Flag]], as shared in a space populated by [[Lolicon]]s.

	===MAP colours supposedly copied to LGBTQ+ "Progress Pride" flag?===		===MAP colours supposedly copied to LGBTQ+ "Progress Pride" flag?===

MAPocalypse

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	*In February, Elon Musk drew over 60M impressions on a tweet criticizing the New York Times for their historical coverage of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] and pedophilia as a disorder/not a crime.<ref>[https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026135632624652377 Tweet by Elon Musk]</ref>		*In February, Elon Musk drew over 60M impressions on a tweet criticizing the New York Times for their historical coverage of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] and pedophilia as a disorder/not a crime.<ref>[https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026135632624652377 Tweet by Elon Musk]</ref>
	*In April-May, [[Mu]] (and other MAP sites such as [[BoyChat]] and its French sub-forum) became the focus of an investigation by the citizen journalist, G Patrick.<ref>[https://www.gpatricksec.com/pedos-in-plain-site/ NAMBLA Was Just the Tip of the Iceberg], [https://www.gpatricksec.com/francerocks/ France Rocks], [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=4520 Thread documenting the various updates to G Patrick's investigation]</ref> This resulted in multiple call-outs on Reddit, in which Mu and various sites sharing the same server were presented as a "pedophile ring" without any evidence of illegal activity. The response even provoked governmental response in France (with media citing the High Commissioner for Children).<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/blog/press-release-france-has-no-right-to-call-us-pedocriminals Press Release: France has no right to call us 'pedocriminals']</ref> Attempts to remove the sites from the internet by lobbying providers were unsuccessful.		*In April-May, [[Mu]] (and other MAP sites such as [[BoyChat]] and its French sub-forum) became the focus of an investigation by the citizen journalist, G Patrick.<ref>[https://www.gpatricksec.com/pedos-in-plain-site/ NAMBLA Was Just the Tip of the Iceberg], [https://www.gpatricksec.com/francerocks/ France Rocks], [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=4520 Thread documenting the various updates to G Patrick's investigation]</ref> This resulted in multiple call-outs on Reddit, in which Mu and various sites sharing the same server were presented as a "pedophile ring" without any evidence of illegal activity. The response even provoked governmental response in France (with media citing the High Commissioner for Children).<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/blog/press-release-france-has-no-right-to-call-us-pedocriminals Press Release: France has no right to call us 'pedocriminals']</ref> Attempts to remove the sites from the internet by lobbying providers were unsuccessful.
	*In July, a tweet on X.com featuring the "[[:File:FCncb9dWUAMBHOW.png\|Pedo Lives Matter]]" [[MAP Flag]] variant by [[Newgon]]'s Jim Burton (aka Jamal Ross) drew upwards of 1.5m impressions and angry responses alleging Jewish involvement in social engineering and psychological operations. The flag-graphic had been posted in a Discord server for the [[Wikipedia:Role-playing game\|RPG]] ''Fate and Grand Order'', which features highly-popular [[Lolicon\|loli]] characters. Reactions ignored the fact that most of the responses to the graphic had been negative as per [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate]],<ref>[https://x.com/Zufrieren_/status/2072563461951762759 Tweet by Zufrieren_]</ref> and reinforced ~~that~~ idea that Loli spaces were engaged in MAP normalization, or overwhelmed with pedophiles who would not "seek help".		*In July, a tweet on X.com featuring the "[[:File:FCncb9dWUAMBHOW.png\|Pedo Lives Matter]]" [[MAP Flag]] variant by [[Newgon]]'s Jim Burton (aka Jamal Ross) drew upwards of 1.5m impressions and angry responses alleging Jewish involvement in social engineering and psychological operations. The flag-graphic had been posted in a Discord server for the [[Wikipedia:Role-playing game\|RPG]] ''Fate and Grand Order'', which features highly-popular [[Lolicon\|loli]] characters. Reactions ignored the fact that most of the responses to the graphic had been negative as per [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate]],<ref>[https://x.com/Zufrieren_/status/2072563461951762759 Tweet by Zufrieren_]</ref> and reinforced the idea that Loli spaces were engaged in MAP normalization, or overwhelmed with pedophiles who would not "seek help".

	==Opinions among MAPs==		==Opinions among MAPs==

California

JJ1 — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 06:50:47 GMT

"Don't you dare outsmart us!" - California

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	The age of consent in California is 18 years with no exception for close-in-age sexual partners.<ref>[https://www.age-of-consent.info/california What is the California Legal Age of Consent in 2026?] - "The close-in-age rule in California (3 years) do not provide an exception nor provide any defense; it merely lowers the crime to a misdemeanor."</ref> It also is the first state to have had a [[sex offender registry]].<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/perspectives/mu-lowdown-10-times-americas-sex-offender-registry-was-used-with-lethal-effect Mu Lowdown: 10 times America's Sex Offender Registries were used with lethal effect] - ''"In the 1990s, America began to ramp up deployment of one of its great social experiments, one that began many decades previous in 1940s California."''</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.03-194637/https://oag.ca.gov/sex-offender-reg California Sex Offender Registry \| State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General] - ''"In 1947, California became the first state in the nation to enact a sex offender registration law that required offenders convicted of specified offenses to register with their local law enforcement agency."''</ref>		The age of consent in California is 18 years with no exception for close-in-age sexual partners.<ref>[https://www.age-of-consent.info/california What is the California Legal Age of Consent in 2026?] - "The close-in-age rule in California (3 years) do not provide an exception nor provide any defense; it merely lowers the crime to a misdemeanor."</ref> It also is the first state to have had a [[sex offender registry]].<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/perspectives/mu-lowdown-10-times-americas-sex-offender-registry-was-used-with-lethal-effect Mu Lowdown: 10 times America's Sex Offender Registries were used with lethal effect] - ''"In the 1990s, America began to ramp up deployment of one of its great social experiments, one that began many decades previous in 1940s California."''</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.03-194637/https://oag.ca.gov/sex-offender-reg California Sex Offender Registry \| State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General] - ''"In 1947, California became the first state in the nation to enact a sex offender registration law that required offenders convicted of specified offenses to register with their local law enforcement agency."''</ref>

			With 39 million inhabitants as of 2026, California is the most populous state.<ref>[https://worldpopulationreview.com/states US States - Ranking by Population 2026] - World Population Review</ref><ref>[https://factsinstitute.com/ranking/states-by-population/ US States by Population (2026 Rankings) - The Facts Institute]</ref>

	== Legal mine field ==		== Legal mine field ==
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	As of 2008<!--no more recent data found-->, California spent more money maintaining the sex offender registry than every other individual US state.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20081231152817/http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/upload/08-08_FAC_SORNACosts_JJ.pdf What will it cost states to comply with the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act?] - Justice Policy Institute</ref>		As of 2008<!--no more recent data found-->, California spent more money maintaining the sex offender registry than every other individual US state.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20081231152817/http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/upload/08-08_FAC_SORNACosts_JJ.pdf What will it cost states to comply with the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act?] - Justice Policy Institute</ref>

			To prevent people from "outsmarting" the legal system by traveling to a place with less strict age of consent laws for sexual activity that Californian law would not allow, California made it a crime to arrange a meeting with anyone under the arbitrary age of 18 for sexual activity, regardless of location. The legal code uses the terms "minor" and "child" synonymously.<ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.05-063737/https://www.simmrinlawgroup.com/faqs/why-is-traveling-to-meet-a-minor-considered-a-crime-in-california/ Why Traveling to Meet a Minor Is a Crime Under California Law]</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.05-064052/https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=288.4 California Code, PEN 288.4]</ref>

	== International impact ==		== International impact ==

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	[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]		[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]
	There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.		There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second/third-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.

	MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.		MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.

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	[[Terry Leahy\|Leahy]], [[Gary Dowsett\|Dowsett]], [[Pat Sikes\|Sikes]], [[Patrick Califia\|Califia]], [[Frans Gieles\|Gieles]]<br />		[[Terry Leahy\|Leahy]], [[Gary Dowsett\|Dowsett]], [[Pat Sikes\|Sikes]], [[Patrick Califia\|Califia]], [[Frans Gieles\|Gieles]]<br />
	[[Richard Yuill\|Yuill]], [[James Kincaid\|Kincaid]], [[Camille Paglia\|Paglia~~]], [[Walter L. Williams\|Williams~~]], [[Thore Langfeldt\|Langfeldt]]<br />		[[Richard Yuill\|Yuill]], [[James Kincaid\|Kincaid]], [[Camille Paglia\|Paglia]], [[Thore Langfeldt\|Langfeldt]]<br />
	[[LeRoy G. Schultz\|Schultz]], [[~~Hubert Kennedy~~\|~~Kennedy~~]], [[Rudiger Lautmann\|Lautmann]]<br />		[[LeRoy G. Schultz\|Schultz]], [[Walter L. Williams\|Williams]], [[Rudiger Lautmann\|Lautmann]]<br />
	[[Marjan Sax\|Sax]], [[Warren Farrell\|Farrell]], [[Joel Best\|Best]], [[Philip Jenkins\|Jenkins~~]], [[Lars Ullerstam\|Ullerstam~~]]<br />		[[Marjan Sax\|Sax]], [[Warren Farrell\|Farrell]], [[Joel Best\|Best]], [[Philip Jenkins\|Jenkins]]<br />
	[[Chin-Keung Li\|C. K. Li]], [[Paul Okami\|Okami]], [[Allie C. Kilpatrick\|Kilpatrick]], [[Martin Dannecker\|Dannecker]]<br />		[[Chin-Keung Li\|C. K. Li]], [[Paul Okami\|Okami]], [[Allie C. Kilpatrick\|Kilpatrick]], [[Martin Dannecker\|Dannecker]]<br />
	[[Dean Durber\|Durber]], [[Gunter Schmidt\|Schmidt]], [[Stevi Jackson\|Jackson]], [[Carolyn Cocca\|Cocca]]		[[Dean Durber\|Durber]], [[Gunter Schmidt\|Schmidt]], [[Stevi Jackson\|Jackson]], [[Carolyn Cocca\|Cocca]]
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	[[Michel Foucault\|Foucault]], [[Alfred Kinsey\|Kinsey~~]], [[William Percy\|Percy~~]], [[Gisela Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg\|Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg]]<br />		[[Michel Foucault\|Foucault]], [[Alfred Kinsey\|Kinsey]], [[Gisela Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg\|Bleibtreu-Ehrenberg]], [[Hubert Kennedy\|Kennedy]], [[William Percy\|Percy]]<br />
	[[David Sonenschein\|Sonenschein]], [[Beatrice Faust\|Faust]], [[Stephen Wayne Foster\|Foster]], [[Donald Mader\|Mader]]<br />		[[David Sonenschein\|Sonenschein]], [[Beatrice Faust\|Faust]], [[Stephen Wayne Foster\|Foster]], [[Donald Mader\|Mader]]<br />
	[[Gert Hekma\|Hekma]], [[Floyd Martinson\|Martinson]], [[Vern Bullough\|Bullough]], [[Frits Bernard\|Bernard]]<br />		[[Gert Hekma\|Hekma]], [[Floyd Martinson\|Martinson]], [[Vern Bullough\|Bullough]], [[Frits Bernard\|Bernard]]<br />
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	[[David T. Evans\|Evans]], [[John Holt\|Holt]], [[Clarence Tripp\|Tripp]], [[Paul D. Hardman\|Hardman]], [[Wilhelm Reich\|Reich]]<br />		[[David T. Evans\|Evans]], [[John Holt\|Holt]], [[Clarence Tripp\|Tripp]], [[Paul D. Hardman\|Hardman]], [[Wilhelm Reich\|Reich]]<br />
	[[Thomas Szasz\|Szasz]]<br />		[[Thomas Szasz\|Szasz]], [[Lars Ullerstam\|Ullerstam]], [[Joan Nestle\|Nestle]]<br />
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	[[Judianne Densen-Gerber\|Densen-Gerber]], [[Judith Reisman\|Reisman]], [[Charles Whitfield\|Whitfield]], [[Paul Fink\|Fink]]<br />		[[Judianne Densen-Gerber\|Densen-Gerber]], [[Judith Reisman\|Reisman]], [[Charles Whitfield\|Whitfield]], [[Paul Fink\|Fink]]<br />