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	*:"The best ethnographic description of this type of [gerontocratic] marriage is by Jane Goodale (1971) in her account of the Tiwi who live on Melville Island, North Australia. Betrothals of first marriages of most females are made even before those females are concieved. In fact, such a marriage contract is made when the as-yet-to-be-concieved girl's mother commences menstruation. [...] Once the marriage contract is made, the husband-to-be, who is an adult, works with his future mother and father-in-law as a member of that family, with the expectation that when a daughter is born to them, she will be given to him as a wife. There is no fixed chronological age at which the young girl is given to her designated husband, but it occurs after she is able to take on some household and other economic responsibilities, but well before her first menstruation. For the Tiwi she is still a child, albeit and older child. When her father decides that she is mature enough, the young girl is merely taken to her husband and instructed to reside and sleep with him. This is not an abrupt change [...] for the husband has been a part of the same family camp for some time, and the young wife is still surrounded by those with whom she has always lived. Goodale describes the process:		*:"The best ethnographic description of this type of [gerontocratic] marriage is by Jane Goodale (1971) in her account of the Tiwi who live on Melville Island, North Australia. Betrothals of first marriages of most females are made even before those females are concieved. In fact, such a marriage contract is made when the as-yet-to-be-concieved girl's mother commences menstruation. [...] Once the marriage contract is made, the husband-to-be, who is an adult, works with his future mother and father-in-law as a member of that family, with the expectation that when a daughter is born to them, she will be given to him as a wife. There is no fixed chronological age at which the young girl is given to her designated husband, but it occurs after she is able to take on some household and other economic responsibilities, but well before her first menstruation. For the Tiwi she is still a child, albeit and older child. When her father decides that she is mature enough, the young girl is merely taken to her husband and instructed to reside and sleep with him. This is not an abrupt change [...] for the husband has been a part of the same family camp for some time, and the young wife is still surrounded by those with whom she has always lived. Goodale describes the process:
	*::''Soon after the ''alinga'' [young girl] moves to her husband's fire he begins her sexual instruction. From all accounts this appears to be a very gradual process. He begins by deflowering her with his finger, and perhaps only after a year does he have actual intercourse with her. Sexual intercourse is considered by the Tiwi to be the direct and only cause of breast formation, growth of pubic and auxillary hair, menarche, and subsequent menstrual periods. (1971, p. 45)."''		*::''Soon after the ''alinga'' [young girl] moves to her husband's fire he begins her sexual instruction. From all accounts this appears to be a very gradual process. He begins by deflowering her with his finger, and perhaps only after a year does he have actual intercourse with her. Sexual intercourse is considered by the Tiwi to be the direct and only cause of breast formation, growth of pubic and auxillary hair, menarche, and subsequent menstrual periods. (1971, p. 45)."''
	*:"versions of this marriage were once found among many Australian Aborigine groups (Berndt & Berndt, 1951; Gale, 1970; Kaberry, 1939; Rose, 1960). From our ethnocentric [i.e. Western] perspective, one of the most notable aspects [...] is the ~~abscence~~ of trauma". (p. 77).		*:"versions of this marriage were once found among many Australian Aborigine groups (Berndt & Berndt, 1951; Gale, 1970; Kaberry, 1939; Rose, 1960). From our ethnocentric [i.e. Western] perspective, one of the most notable aspects [...] is the absence of trauma". (p. 77).

	==Melanesia==		==Melanesia==
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	*'''Review of [[Gilbert Herdt]]'s famous fieldwork on the Sambia (by [[Walter L. Williams]] as quoted in our page on Herdt):'''		*'''Review of [[Gilbert Herdt]]'s famous fieldwork on the Sambia (by [[Walter L. Williams]] as quoted in our page on Herdt):'''
	*:"Between the ages of about seven and thirteen, boys are taken from the maternal household and placed in a separate boys' house away from the village. For a period of several months to several years, depending on the culture, boys avoid all contact with females as they are prepared for manhood in elaborate initiations. It is the social duty of men to plant sperm in boys in order for them to grow. In some societies this is done by the boy performing oral sex upon the man, in others by him receiving anal intercourse, or in others by having the sperm rubbed on his body. The sexual act must always be with the boy receiving the older male's semen. To reverse roles is considered damaging to the boy's growth."		*:"Between the ages of about seven and thirteen, boys are taken from the maternal household and placed in a separate boys' house away from the village. For a period of several months to several years, depending on the culture, boys avoid all contact with females as they are prepared for manhood in elaborate initiations. It is the social duty of men to plant sperm in boys in order for them to grow. In some societies this is done by the boy performing oral sex upon the man, in others by him receiving anal intercourse, or in others by having the sperm rubbed on his body. The sexual act must always be with the boy receiving the older male's semen. To reverse roles is considered damaging to the boy's growth."

			*'''Davenport, William H. (1992). [https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Davenport_chapter.pdf Adult-Child Sexual Relations in Cross-Cultural Perspective], in W. O'Donohue & J. H. Geer (Eds.), ''The sexual abuse of children: Theory and research'' (Vol. 1, Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum, 73-80), pp. 76-77.'''
			*:"The best description of these patterns, by Herdt (1982, 1987) is with a people the author calls the Sambia. In brief, the pattern is as follows:
			*::''Seven-to-ten-year-old Sambia boys are taken from their mothers when first initiated into the male cult, and thereafter experience the most powerful and seductive homosexual fellatio activities. For some ten to fifteen years, they engage in these practices on a daily basis, first as fellator, and then as fellated. Elders teach that semen is absolutely vital: it should be consumed daily since the creation of biological maleness and the maintenance of masculinity depend upon it. Hence, from middle childhood untul puberty, boys should perform fellatio on older youths.''

			:::''Near puberty the same initiates become dominant youths. Ritual helps remake their social and erotic identity, the bachelors becoming the fellated partners for a new crop of ritual novices. ... Yet, in spite of this formidable background, the final outcome is exclusive heterosexuality—of a particular form. Youths eventually become sexually attracted to women. At marriage (c. sixteen to twenty-five years of age), they may even act as true bisexuals, for a time. With fatherhood, however, homosexuality should cease; thereafter men should engage only in heterosexual activities. (Herdt 1987, pp. 2-3)''" [Herdt, G. H. (1987). Guardians of the flutes: Idioms of masculinity.]

			*'''Davenport, William H. (1992). [https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:Davenport_chapter.pdf Adult-Child Sexual Relations in Cross-Cultural Perspective], in W. O'Donohue & J. H. Geer (Eds.), ''The sexual abuse of children: Theory and research'' (Vol. 1, Hillsdale, NJ: Erlbaum, 73-80), pp. 76-77.'''
			::"[I]n a society called East Bay, where I did some ethnography of sexual behavior (Davenport 1965), formerly, there had been a pattern of male homosexuality in which some older men often took, always with consent from their fathers, nonrelated boys as relatively permanent, passive sexual partners for anal intercourse. From a cultural perspective, the boys were understood to be substitutes for females, not homosexual partners as our culture would define them. In fact, the culture of East Bay did not recognize — that is, had no cultural category for — intimate male homosexual relationships as something separate from those involving women. A boy, rather than a man, was selected, because a boy was a minor, without an independent legal status separate from his father’s, hence he could be told what to do. Women in East Bay society also were minors in this legal sense. But the crux of the matter was that the passive homosexual role was not considered to be in any way damaging to a boy’s psychosexual development. Moreover, such a close association with an elder man, who was expected to be gentle, generous, and indulgent, could have a positive effect on the boy’s development. If, however, the elder man did not fulfill these role expectations, he would find himself accused of mistreatment, that is, abusing the boy, and, therefore, in serious trouble with the boy’s father and other senior male relatives who were responsible for his well-being."

	*'''Hyena, Hank (1999). "[http://web.archive.org/web/20131002090633/http://gettingit.com/article/56 Semen Warriors Of New Guinea]," Gettingit.com, September 16.'''		*'''Hyena, Hank (1999). "[http://web.archive.org/web/20131002090633/http://gettingit.com/article/56 Semen Warriors Of New Guinea]," Gettingit.com, September 16.'''
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	=== Azande ===		=== Azande ===
	*'''Evans-Pritchard, E. E. (1970). [https://sci-hub.st/10.2307/672861 Sexual Inversion among the Azande. American Anthropologist], 72(6), 1428–1434.'''		*'''Evans-Pritchard, E. E. (1970). [https://sci-hub.st/10.2307/672861 Sexual Inversion among the Azande. American Anthropologist], 72(6), 1428–1434.'''
	*: "It was the custom for members of bachelor companies, some of whom would always be living in barracks at court, to take boy-wives. [...] Most young men consequently married late--well into their twenties and thirties-and, because girls were engaged (in a legal sense married) very young, often at birth, the only way youths could obtain satisfaction from a woman was in adultery. [...] The boys performed many of the smaller services a woman performs daily for her husband [...] Also, the boywife carried his husband's shield when on a journey. It should be understood that he performed these services lest it might be thought that the relationship was entirely of a sexual nature; it will be appreciated that it had an educational side to it. With regard to the sexual side, at night the boy slept with his lover, who had intercourse with him between his thighs (Azande expressed disgust at the suggestion of anal penetration). The boys got what pleasure they could by friction of their organs on the husband's belly or groin. However, even though there was this side to the relationship, it was clear from Zande accounts that there was also the comfort of a nightly sharing of the bed with a companion."		*: "It was the custom for members of bachelor companies, some of whom would always be living in barracks at court, to take boy-wives. [...] Most young men consequently married late -- well into their twenties and thirties -- and, because girls were engaged (in a legal sense married) very young, often at birth, the only way youths could obtain satisfaction from a woman was in adultery. [...] The boys performed many of the smaller services a woman performs daily for her husband [...] Also, the boywife carried his husband's shield when on a journey. It should be understood that he performed these services lest it might be thought that the relationship was entirely of a sexual nature; it will be appreciated that it had an educational side to it. With regard to the sexual side, at night the boy slept with his lover, who had intercourse with him between his thighs (Azande expressed disgust at the suggestion of anal penetration). The boys got what pleasure they could by friction of their organs on the husband's belly or groin. However, even though there was this side to the relationship, it was clear from Zande accounts that there was also the comfort of a nightly sharing of the bed with a companion."
			*: "The word "boy" (kumba gude) must, it would appear, be interpreted liberally, for as far as I could judge from what I was told the lads might have been anywhere between about twelve and twenty years of age"
			*: "I have pointedly used the terms "wife,""husband," and "marriage," for, as the texts will make clear, the relationship was, for so long as it lasted, a legal union on the model of a normal marriage. The warrior paid bridewealth (some five spears or more) to the parents of his boy and performed services for them as he would have done had he married their daughter; if he proved to be a good son-in-law they might later replace the son by a daughter. Also, if another man had relations with his boy he could, I was told, sue him at court for adultery."

	== See also ==		== See also ==

PCMA

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	PCMA is responsible for [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|various online controversies]], usually involving the mobilization of conservative outrage via psychological manipulation on platforms such as X (Twitter). Members of the workgroup offer live support and knowledge to others, and collaborate to make phone verification, cryptocurrency and account-creation services more widely available.		PCMA is responsible for [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|various online controversies]], usually involving the mobilization of conservative outrage via psychological manipulation on platforms such as X (Twitter). Members of the workgroup offer live support and knowledge to others, and collaborate to make phone verification, cryptocurrency and account-creation services more widely available.

	PCMA members have been described as trolls who use sock accounts to achieve their ends, but have employed a variety of tactics including arguing at length with members of the public, and impersonating [[~~antis~~]] in order to lose debates and project bad optics.		PCMA members have been described as trolls who use sock accounts to achieve their ends, but have employed a variety of tactics including arguing at length with members of the public, and impersonating [[anti]]s in order to lose debates and project bad optics.

	In 2023, PCMA and the Yesmap server, having achieved most of its publicity goals via the prior strategy, each moved independently towards a model of increasing visibility via community-building efforts such as expansion of the [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]]. A piece in the New Zealand media was titled to reflect a PCMA infiltrator's opinion of the group.<ref>[https://goodoil.news/organised-aggrieved-and-determined-to-win/ Organised, Aggrieved and Determined to Win]</ref>		In 2023, PCMA and the Yesmap server, having achieved most of its publicity goals via the prior strategy, each moved independently towards a model of increasing visibility via community-building efforts such as expansion of the [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]]. A piece in the New Zealand media was titled to reflect a PCMA infiltrator's opinion of the group.<ref>[https://goodoil.news/organised-aggrieved-and-determined-to-win/ Organised, Aggrieved and Determined to Win]</ref>

Minor Attracted Person

Jim Burton — Wed, 08 Jul 2026 12:47:20 GMT

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	In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.		In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.

	Throughout 2025, muted controversy continued to arise over events such as the [[B4U-ACT]] conference, with Donald Trump himself being ironically described as a MAP, and his assassinated supporter [[Wikipedia:Charlie Kirk\|Charlie Kirk]] (incorrectly) as an apologist by liberals. Shortly after the Kirk assassination, the non-offending MAP Activist, Connor Weston staged a gun stunt at a Wikipedia convention to raise awareness for his cause, as he saw it.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/nyc-wikipedia-conference-halted-when-non-offending-pedophile-storms-stage-points-gun-at-own-head/ NYC Wikipedia conference halted when ‘non-offending pedophile’ storms stage, points gun at own head], [https://reduxx.info/pedophile-activist-who-disrupted-wikipedia-conference-was-member-of-influential-advocacy-group/], [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/19/ohio-man-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/nyregion/wikipedia-conference-gunman.html], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/armed-man-upends-nyc-wikipedia-conference-rcna238250], [https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/10/17/gunman-waving-weapon-around-at-nyc-wikipedia-conference-nabbed/], [https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-wikipedia-conference-gun-threat-arrest-10897284], [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15204179/wikipedia-conference-gunman-volunteers-new-york.html], [https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/18/non-offending-pedophile-rainbow-flag-threatens-shoot-himself-wikipedia-conference-new-york-city/], [https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/wikipedia-contributors-block-armed-man-from-shooting-self/amp/], [https://local12.com/news/nation-world/ohio-wikipedia-conference-suicide-threat-gun-kill-himself-pedophile-non-offending-maps-minor-attracted-person-shooting-threatens-threatened-convention-event-stage-stormed-climbed-attack-arrest-arrested], [https://thepostmillennial.com/man-declares-himself-a-non-contact-pedophile-puts-gun-to-his-head-during-nyc-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gunman-arrested-storming-stage-nyc-wikipedia-conference_n_68f3c144e4b085924979a793]</ref> This was in reality, the desperate act of a person suffering from secondary mental health issues related to his sexuality. In 2026, there was continued online controversy surrounding the MAP Flag, ultimately related to the anti-MAP DelusionPosting account, [[PCMA]] and online fandoms said to be ridden with pedophilia. MAP websites such as [[Mu]] were described as a criminal pedophile ring by online researchers, provoking official condemnation.		Throughout 2025, muted controversy continued to arise over events such as the [[B4U-ACT]] conference, with Donald Trump himself being ironically described as a MAP, and his assassinated supporter [[Wikipedia:Charlie Kirk\|Charlie Kirk]] (incorrectly) as an apologist by liberals. Shortly after the Kirk assassination, the non-offending MAP Activist, Connor Weston staged a gun stunt at a Wikipedia convention to raise awareness for his cause, as he saw it.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/nyc-wikipedia-conference-halted-when-non-offending-pedophile-storms-stage-points-gun-at-own-head/ NYC Wikipedia conference halted when ‘non-offending pedophile’ storms stage, points gun at own head], [https://reduxx.info/pedophile-activist-who-disrupted-wikipedia-conference-was-member-of-influential-advocacy-group/], [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/19/ohio-man-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/nyregion/wikipedia-conference-gunman.html], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/armed-man-upends-nyc-wikipedia-conference-rcna238250], [https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/10/17/gunman-waving-weapon-around-at-nyc-wikipedia-conference-nabbed/], [https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-wikipedia-conference-gun-threat-arrest-10897284], [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15204179/wikipedia-conference-gunman-volunteers-new-york.html], [https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/18/non-offending-pedophile-rainbow-flag-threatens-shoot-himself-wikipedia-conference-new-york-city/], [https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/wikipedia-contributors-block-armed-man-from-shooting-self/amp/], [https://local12.com/news/nation-world/ohio-wikipedia-conference-suicide-threat-gun-kill-himself-pedophile-non-offending-maps-minor-attracted-person-shooting-threatens-threatened-convention-event-stage-stormed-climbed-attack-arrest-arrested], [https://thepostmillennial.com/man-declares-himself-a-non-contact-pedophile-puts-gun-to-his-head-during-nyc-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gunman-arrested-storming-stage-nyc-wikipedia-conference_n_68f3c144e4b085924979a793]</ref> This was in reality, the desperate act of a person suffering from secondary mental health issues related to his sexuality. In 2026, there was continued online controversy surrounding the MAP Flag, ultimately related to the anti-MAP DelusionPosting account, [[PCMA]]'s historical output and online fandoms said to be ridden with pedophilia. MAP websites such as [[Mu]] were described as a criminal pedophile ring by online researchers, provoking official condemnation.

	Later in 2026, the [[California]]n lawyer, Michael Ehline (who uses the [[Wikipedia:Vanity number\|vanity number]] 833-LETS SUE) published a mocked-up online graphic of himself standing in front of the [[MAP Flag]] in an attempt to encourage parents to take legal action against clergymen and school counselors, who he claims may in fact be MAPs.<ref>[https://ehlinelaw.com/practice/assault-battery/sex-abuse/child-abuse-molestation Ehline Law: Child Abuse and Injury Lawyers Los Angeles]</ref>		Later in 2026, the [[California]]n lawyer, Michael Ehline (who uses the [[Wikipedia:Vanity number\|vanity number]] 833-LETS SUE) published a mocked-up online graphic of himself standing in front of the [[MAP Flag]] in an attempt to encourage parents to take legal action against clergymen and school counselors, who he claims may in fact be MAPs.<ref>[https://ehlinelaw.com/practice/assault-battery/sex-abuse/child-abuse-molestation Ehline Law: Child Abuse and Injury Lawyers Los Angeles]</ref>

Reflex anal dilation

Jim Burton — Wed, 08 Jul 2026 12:43:27 GMT

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	__NOTOC__'''Reflex anal dilation''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal dilation: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal dilation associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>		__NOTOC__'''[[Wikipedia:Reflex anal dilation\|Reflex anal dilation]]''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal dilation: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal dilation associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>

	Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal dilation is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan		Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal dilation is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan

Reflex anal dilatation

Jim Burton — Wed, 08 Jul 2026 12:43:01 GMT

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	__NOTOC__'''Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~ associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>		__NOTOC__'''Reflex anal dilation''' refers to the theory that in child victims of anal [[rape]], the anus will reflexively open on stimulation to a diameter larger than 2 cm.<ref>[http://gut.bmj.com/cgi/pmidlookup?view=long&pmid=2060876 NW Read, WM Sun, Reflex anal dilation: effect of parting the buttocks on anal function in normal subjects and patients with anorectal and spinal disease, Gut (Jun, 1991)]</ref> Some clinicians such as [[Marietta Higgs]] and her followers have gained clearance to probe the anuses of suspected child victims, going on to claim that resulting dilation is proof of sodomy. Anal dilation has been observed in children with suspected chronic anal rape<ref>C. Hobbs and J. Wynne, Buggery in childhood – a common syndrome of child abuse, Lancet 2 (1986), pp. 792–796</ref><ref>J. Adams, K. Harper and S. Knudson et al., Examination findings in legally confirmed cases of child sexual abuse: it's normal to be normal, Pediatrics 94 (1994), pp. 310–317</ref> and children with chronic constipation,<ref>G. Clayden, Reflex anal dilation associated with severe chronic constipation in children, Arch Dis Child 63 (1988), pp. 832–836</ref> as well as in normal children.<ref>Goodyear-Smith, Felicity (1994). "[http://www.ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume6/j6_2_1.htm Medical Considerations in the Diagnosis of Child Sexual Abuse]," ''Issues In Child Abuse Accusations'', 6.</ref> In one study, 49% of nonabused children displayed reflex anal dilation.<ref>McCann, J., Voris J., Simon, M., & Wells, R. (1989). "Perianal findings in prepubertal children selected for nonabuse: A descriptive study," ''Child Abuse & Neglect'', 13, 179-193.</ref>

	Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal ~~dilatation~~ is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan		Despite the theory's misuse, and significant opposition to such use,<ref>David Bernard, Melissa Peters, Kathi Makoroff, "The Evaluation of Suspected Pediatric Sexual Abuse", Clinical Pediatric Emergency Medicine, Volume 7, Issue 3, September 2006, Pages 161-169</ref> reflex anal dilation is sometimes considered one of many symptoms observable in anally [[rape]]d children<ref>Joyce A. Adamns, "Medical Evaluation of Suspected Child Sexual Abuse", The Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Vol 17, 2005, pp 191–197J</ref><ref>Marilyn Strachan
	Peterson, Michael Durfee, Kevin Coulter, Child abuse and neglect: Guidelines for Identification, Assessment, and Case Management, Volcano Press, 2003, ISBN: 1884244211</ref><ref>Joyce A. Adams, Rich A. Kaplan, Suzanne P. Starling, Neha H. Mehta, Martin A. Finkel, Ann S. Botash, Nancy D. Kellogg and Robert A. Shapiro, Guidelines for Medical Care of Children Who May Have Been Sexually Abused, Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Volume 20, Issue 3, June 2007, Pages 163-172</ref>		Peterson, Michael Durfee, Kevin Coulter, Child abuse and neglect: Guidelines for Identification, Assessment, and Case Management, Volcano Press, 2003, ISBN: 1884244211</ref><ref>Joyce A. Adams, Rich A. Kaplan, Suzanne P. Starling, Neha H. Mehta, Martin A. Finkel, Ann S. Botash, Nancy D. Kellogg and Robert A. Shapiro, Guidelines for Medical Care of Children Who May Have Been Sexually Abused, Journal of Pediatric and Adolescent Gynecology, Volume 20, Issue 3, June 2007, Pages 163-172</ref>

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	==Comparison with [[anal wink]]==		==Comparison with [[anal wink]]==

	''Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[anal wink]], an American theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.		''Reflex anal dilation'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[anal wink]], an American theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.

	==External Links==		==External Links==

Debate Guide: There is no law that prohibits minors

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	Secondly, you could similarly say that a gay teenager is "free" to pursue deep and meaningful discussion of their sexuality with their violent/homophobic parents. While today, this argument would be dismissed as absurd, it is also the case that consent/grooming/CP laws set up a hostile environment that forbids minors full freedom over their interactions with adults.		Secondly, you could similarly say that a gay teenager is "free" to pursue deep and meaningful discussion of their sexuality with their violent/homophobic parents. While today, this argument would be dismissed as absurd, it is also the case that consent/grooming/CP laws set up a hostile environment that forbids minors full freedom over their interactions with adults.

	Granted, assuming the minor partner is not the "perpetrator" or engaged in sex work, there is usually no technical ''infraction'' of the law on their part. However, they are effectively forced to stay silent about these relationships, or otherwise face severe social [[Research: Secondary Harm\|fallout]], including no end of [[Debate Guide: Power disparity\|gaslighting]] and social shaming related to ongoing relationships. A great deal of guilt is also caused by self blame - i.e. the feeling of bringing harm unto the person the younger partner considers to have been a friend, looking out for them. Extensive legal proceedings, interrogation, and [[Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~\|intrusive physical examinations]], leave young people in a catch-22 situation regardless of whether or not the relationship is abusive. The same goes for the older partner, in turn negatively impacting the quality of relationship for the minor.		Granted, assuming the minor partner is not the "perpetrator" or engaged in sex work, there is usually no technical ''infraction'' of the law on their part. However, they are effectively forced to stay silent about these relationships, or otherwise face severe social [[Research: Secondary Harm\|fallout]], including no end of [[Debate Guide: Power disparity\|gaslighting]] and social shaming related to ongoing relationships. A great deal of guilt is also caused by self blame - i.e. the feeling of bringing harm unto the person the younger partner considers to have been a friend, looking out for them. Extensive legal proceedings, interrogation, and [[Reflex anal dilation\|intrusive physical examinations]], leave young people in a catch-22 situation regardless of whether or not the relationship is abusive. The same goes for the older partner, in turn negatively impacting the quality of relationship for the minor.

	==See also==		==See also==

Valerie Sinason

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	*[[Reflex anal ~~dilatation~~\|Marietta Higgs]] - Another disgraced CSA alarmist who continued in employment.		*[[Reflex anal dilation\|Marietta Higgs]] - Another disgraced CSA alarmist who continued in employment.

	==References==		==References==

Anal wink

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	It has since been established that Woodling made insuficient efforts or proof to validate his test, and therefore has been criticized. Woodling's pseudoscientific testimony during the trial of [[Ray Buckey]] contributed to Buckey spending five years in prison without bail. Buckey was later released without conviction.		It has since been established that Woodling made insuficient efforts or proof to validate his test, and therefore has been criticized. Woodling's pseudoscientific testimony during the trial of [[Ray Buckey]] contributed to Buckey spending five years in prison without bail. Buckey was later released without conviction.

	==Comparison with [[reflex anal ~~dilatation~~]]==		==Comparison with [[reflex anal dilation]]==

	''Anal wink'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[reflex anal ~~dilatation~~]], a British theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.		''Anal wink'' as a theory, appears to conflict with that of [[reflex anal dilation]], a British theory in which the ''opposite'' reaction is deemed to be evidence of abuse in legal cases.

	==External links==		==External links==

Minor Attracted Person

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	===Timeline===		===Timeline===

	:''For more examples, see [[MAPocalypse]].''		:''For more examples and sources for some of the events mentioned, see [[MAPocalypse]].''

	One example of such publicity was the controversy<ref>Examples of Walker's news coverage: [https://fstube.net/w/7NEJoLzSgRVizXchnvmssu], [https://fstube.net/w/sAt9ydCyNRCBdP7vjsksKe]</ref> surrounding [[Allyn Walker]] in 2021, followed by further social media outcry in 2022, this time over a video made by Miranda Galbreath, a licensed Sex Therapist who was attempting to challenge the stigma on MAPs.<ref>[https://www.foxnews.com/us/licensed-pennsylvania-sex-therapist-defends-minor-attracted-persons-viral-video Licensed Pennsylvania sex therapist defends 'minor-attracted persons' in viral video]</ref> This video, circulated by '''[[Wikipedia:Libs of TikTok\|Libs of TikTok]]''', went on to be viewed around 3 million times on various platforms, with network coverage from Rowan Dean<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/tAmT8Zq5sLomxyjaw9cjD8 FS Tube: Rowan Dean]</ref> and Bev Turner<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/sgXrRDY6d7Xt2PiLPZFGKR FS Tube: Bev Turner]</ref> in Australia and the UK respectively. Turner suggested that the acceptance of MAPs might be a ploy to diffuse public unrest come the time a guest-list for [[Wikipedia:Jeffrey Epstein\|Jeffrey Epstein's]] sex parties is released.<ref>[https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/aligning-a-criminal-act-with-normal-sexual-preferences-is-potentially-very-dangerous-lets-be-awake-to-this-phenomenon-says-bev-turner/351764 GB News - Bev Turner transcript]</ref>		One example of such publicity was the controversy<ref>Examples of Walker's news coverage: [https://fstube.net/w/7NEJoLzSgRVizXchnvmssu], [https://fstube.net/w/sAt9ydCyNRCBdP7vjsksKe]</ref> surrounding [[Allyn Walker]] in 2021, followed by further social media outcry in 2022, this time over a video made by Miranda Galbreath, a licensed Sex Therapist who was attempting to challenge the stigma on MAPs.<ref>[https://www.foxnews.com/us/licensed-pennsylvania-sex-therapist-defends-minor-attracted-persons-viral-video Licensed Pennsylvania sex therapist defends 'minor-attracted persons' in viral video]</ref> This video, circulated by '''[[Wikipedia:Libs of TikTok\|Libs of TikTok]]''', went on to be viewed around 3 million times on various platforms, with network coverage from Rowan Dean<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/tAmT8Zq5sLomxyjaw9cjD8 FS Tube: Rowan Dean]</ref> and Bev Turner<ref>[https://fstube.net/w/sgXrRDY6d7Xt2PiLPZFGKR FS Tube: Bev Turner]</ref> in Australia and the UK respectively. Turner suggested that the acceptance of MAPs might be a ploy to diffuse public unrest come the time a guest-list for [[Wikipedia:Jeffrey Epstein\|Jeffrey Epstein's]] sex parties is released.<ref>[https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/aligning-a-criminal-act-with-normal-sexual-preferences-is-potentially-very-dangerous-lets-be-awake-to-this-phenomenon-says-bev-turner/351764 GB News - Bev Turner transcript]</ref>
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	In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.		In September 2024, controversy spiked again, over the idea of a [[MAP Camp]]. The meeting was completed, but on a small scale at an unrelated location. In October, the use of "MAP" by another educator, Kerri Isham in British Columbia was highlighted throughout local and social media.<ref>[https://www.westernstandard.news/news/sexual-health-educator-slammed-for-referring-to-pedophiles-as-minor-attracted-persons-in-lecture-to-bc-grade-9ers/58713 Kerri Isham news article]</ref> From late that year, attention was diverted back to the 2018-20 panics around MAP representation on social media, first with a [[Bluesky pedophilia controversy]], and early in 2025, via the non-binary streamer and [[Anti]], Coffins, who gained many millions of views after "exposing" numerous spiral [[childlove]] symbols and supposed pedophile symbols/emoji codes.<ref>[https://x.com/CoffinsInBloom/status/1916161045380341977 Popular thread by Coffins]</ref> Amid this new wave of panic, the annual conference of [[B4U-ACT]] gained some unwanted attention with Andy Ngo featuring once again.

			Throughout 2025, muted controversy continued to arise over events such as the [[B4U-ACT]] conference, with Donald Trump himself being ironically described as a MAP, and his assassinated supporter [[Wikipedia:Charlie Kirk\|Charlie Kirk]] (incorrectly) as an apologist by liberals. Shortly after the Kirk assassination, the non-offending MAP Activist, Connor Weston staged a gun stunt at a Wikipedia convention to raise awareness for his cause, as he saw it.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2025/10/17/us-news/nyc-wikipedia-conference-halted-when-non-offending-pedophile-storms-stage-points-gun-at-own-head/ NYC Wikipedia conference halted when ‘non-offending pedophile’ storms stage, points gun at own head], [https://reduxx.info/pedophile-activist-who-disrupted-wikipedia-conference-was-member-of-influential-advocacy-group/], [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/19/ohio-man-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/17/nyregion/wikipedia-conference-gunman.html], [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/armed-man-upends-nyc-wikipedia-conference-rcna238250], [https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/10/17/gunman-waving-weapon-around-at-nyc-wikipedia-conference-nabbed/], [https://www.newsweek.com/nyc-wikipedia-conference-gun-threat-arrest-10897284], [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15204179/wikipedia-conference-gunman-volunteers-new-york.html], [https://dailycaller.com/2025/10/18/non-offending-pedophile-rainbow-flag-threatens-shoot-himself-wikipedia-conference-new-york-city/], [https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/wikipedia-contributors-block-armed-man-from-shooting-self/amp/], [https://local12.com/news/nation-world/ohio-wikipedia-conference-suicide-threat-gun-kill-himself-pedophile-non-offending-maps-minor-attracted-person-shooting-threatens-threatened-convention-event-stage-stormed-climbed-attack-arrest-arrested], [https://thepostmillennial.com/man-declares-himself-a-non-contact-pedophile-puts-gun-to-his-head-during-nyc-wikipedia-conference], [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gunman-arrested-storming-stage-nyc-wikipedia-conference_n_68f3c144e4b085924979a793]</ref> This was in reality, the desperate act of a person suffering from secondary mental health issues related to his sexuality. In 2026, there was continued online controversy surrounding the MAP Flag, ultimately related to the anti-MAP DelusionPosting account, [[PCMA]] and online fandoms said to be ridden with pedophilia. MAP websites such as [[Mu]] were described as a criminal pedophile ring by online researchers, provoking official condemnation.

			Later in 2026, the [[California]]n lawyer, Michael Ehline (who uses the [[Wikipedia:Vanity number\|vanity number]] 833-LETS SUE) published a mocked-up online graphic of himself standing in front of the [[MAP Flag]] in an attempt to encourage parents to take legal action against clergymen and school counselors, who he claims may in fact be MAPs.<ref>[https://ehlinelaw.com/practice/assault-battery/sex-abuse/child-abuse-molestation Ehline Law: Child Abuse and Injury Lawyers Los Angeles]</ref>

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	[[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|Wikipedia]] maintained and then deleted a disambiguation page for MAP, between 2019 and late 2021, shortly after the Allyn Walker controversy.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190501000000*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia Archive from 2019 onwards]</ref><ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia first AfD]</ref> The term was then erroneously redirected to [[Pedophilia]] for five months, before being corrected to [[Chronophilia]] by an editor. It was then pointed to a Wiktionary entry in what appeared to be a "halfway house" between acknowledging and denying its notability. In late April, 2023, a high-quality article was for the first time presented on the platform, describing the umbrella term, research and some controversy.<ref>[https://archive.is/q1ttr First version of improved MAP article on Wikipedia]</ref> It was soon deleted, along with other articles, following its own internal controversy at Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|described in our article]]).		[[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|Wikipedia]] maintained and then deleted a disambiguation page for MAP, between 2019 and late 2021, shortly after the Allyn Walker controversy.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190501000000*/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia Archive from 2019 onwards]</ref><ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Minor-attracted_person Wikipedia first AfD]</ref> The term was then erroneously redirected to [[Pedophilia]] for five months, before being corrected to [[Chronophilia]] by an editor. It was then pointed to a Wiktionary entry in what appeared to be a "halfway house" between acknowledging and denying its notability. In late April, 2023, a high-quality article was for the first time presented on the platform, describing the umbrella term, research and some controversy.<ref>[https://archive.is/q1ttr First version of improved MAP article on Wikipedia]</ref> It was soon deleted, along with other articles, following its own internal controversy at Wikipedia ([[Wikipedia censorship of MAP related topics\|described in our article]]). The Wiktionary entry is once again accessible from this page, and has itself alternated between describing the term as an euphemism for pedophilia (singularly) or a range of [[chronophilia]]s.

	==Academic controversy==		==Academic controversy==

Joan Nestle

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	__NOTOC__[[wikipedia:Joan_Nestle\|'''Joan Nestle''']] (born May 12, 1940) is a Lambda Award-winning writer and editor and a founder of the Lesbian Herstory Archives. Cited by [[Feminism\|feminist]] civil liberties activist [[Nettie Pollard]] for having written about [[Intergenerational_Lesbianism\|intergenerational lesbianism]], age-gap sex and childhood sexuality, Nestle also consistently advocated against [[censorship]] of dissident views. In her 1980 talk titled “Some Understandings,” Nestle defends the right for gay men to speak about their experience of intergenerational sex, and advocates against scapegoating.		{{Template:Ac}}__NOTOC__[[wikipedia:Joan_Nestle\|'''Joan Nestle''']] (born May 12, 1940) is a Lambda Award-winning writer and editor and a founder of the Lesbian Herstory Archives. Cited by [[Feminism\|feminist]] civil liberties activist [[Nettie Pollard]] for having written about [[Intergenerational_Lesbianism\|intergenerational lesbianism]], age-gap sex and childhood sexuality, Nestle also consistently advocated against [[censorship]] of dissident views. In her 1980 talk titled “Some Understandings,” Nestle defends the right for gay men to speak about their experience of intergenerational sex, and advocates against scapegoating.

	As a lesbian who came to erotic awareness in the 1950s and into young adulthood in the 1960s, Joan defended the lesbian activism and sexual culture of the 1950s against charges that it was reactionary, rather than a product of its time. Based on her experience living through periods where lesbianism was considered a sickness / mental illness, an aberration and highly stigmatized, she advocated for solidarity with other sexual minorities and against censorship and lesbian co-operation with the carceral State.		As a lesbian who came to erotic awareness in the 1950s and into young adulthood in the 1960s, Joan defended the lesbian activism and sexual culture of the 1950s against charges that it was reactionary, rather than a product of its time. Based on her experience living through periods where lesbianism was considered a sickness / mental illness, an aberration and highly stigmatized, she advocated for solidarity with other sexual minorities and against censorship and lesbian co-operation with the carceral State.

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Childlove

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	{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' ~~was a popular~~ intra-community term for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]] in the 00s ~~(being etymologically identical to the latter)~~. It continues to be used occasionally for both bisexual and gender-exclusive pedophiles.		{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' is an intra-community term for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]], notable for its popularity and public reception in the 00s. It continues to be used occasionally for both bisexual and gender-exclusive pedophiles due to its etymological similarity to pedophile, a term of Greek origin.

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	Various symbolism has been tied to CL identity. These included an "AmaroSymbol", proposed by [[AP]], and later submitted to Newgon's "[[Flag proposal 2009]]".		Various symbolism has been tied to CL identity, the CLogo being by far the most widely publicised, and the Child Logo being the most popular among pedophiles.

			These included an "AmaroSymbol", proposed by [[AP]], and later submitted to Newgon's "[[Flag proposal 2009]]".

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			File:Clogo.png\|<small>CLogo - commonly used in the 00s, still used by some online and Dutch activists. Led to a 2023 controversy concerning its similarity to that of a German Transsexual organization<ref>See, e.g. [https://reduxx.info/germany-woman-warned-by-court-after-questioning-butterfly-symbol-used-by-trans-rights-group/ Reduxx], and [https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=46874 Queer.de]</ref> and Bluesky social in 2024<ref>[https://tribune.com.pk/story/2510828/bluesky-faces-allegations-over-butterfly-logo-linked-to-child-abuse-symbols Baseless theory Bluesky (which censors MAPs) is linked to the CLogo]</ref></small>
	File:Clomal.png\|[[Rookiee]]'s Childlove Media Activism Logo - incorporating [[GLogo]] and [[BLogo]]. Created for [[Pedologues]].		File:Clomal.png\|[[Rookiee]]'s Childlove Media Activism Logo - incorporating [[GLogo]] and [[BLogo]]. Created for [[Pedologues]].
	File:Clogo.png\|<small>CLogo - commonly used in the 00s, still used by some online and Dutch activists. Led to a 2023 controversy concerning its similarity to that of a German Transsexual organization<ref>See, e.g. [https://reduxx.info/germany-woman-warned-by-court-after-questioning-butterfly-symbol-used-by-trans-rights-group/ Reduxx], and [https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=46874 Queer.de]</ref> and Bluesky social in 2024<ref>[https://tribune.com.pk/story/2510828/bluesky-faces-allegations-over-butterfly-logo-linked-to-child-abuse-symbols Baseless theory Bluesky (which censors MAPs) is linked to the CLogo]</ref></small>
	File:CLLLL.png\|Child Logo - used occasionally as a [[GLogo]]/[[BLogo]] alternative in novel flag format.		File:CLLLL.png\|Child Logo - used occasionally as a [[GLogo]]/[[BLogo]] alternative in novel flag format.
	File:3DCLogo.png\| 3D Child Logo - created by Wardyn		File:3DCLogo.png\| 3D Child Logo - created by Wardyn
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	*[https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-the-clogo-archive/ CLogo Archive (Steve Diamond)] - various adopted and unadopted symbolism.		*[https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-the-clogo-archive/ CLogo Archive (Steve Diamond)] - various adopted and unadopted symbolism.
	*[https://archive.ph/U1I9X CLogo Archive (official)] - This was the CLogo project home, maintained by the original group of activists.		*[https://archive.ph/U1I9X CLogo Archive (official)] - This was the CLogo project home, maintained by the original group of activists.
	*[https://web.archive.org/web/20051101165116/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlove_movement Childlove Movement (Wikipedia Archive)] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20051031040826/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlover Childlover] - The term was once popular enough to merit Wikipedia articles.		*[https://web.archive.org/web/20051101165116/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlove_movement Childlove Movement (Wikipedia Archive)] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20051031040826/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlover Childlover] - The term was once popular enough to merit Wikipedia articles, which referred to the CLogo campaign.

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Feminism

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	* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]].		* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]].
	* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority. See section on antifeminist theories later in article.		* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority. See [[#Antifeminist_theory\|section on antifeminist theories]] later in article.
	* Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onward, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], which represent a nexus of psychiatry and ideological groups such as conservatives and feminists.		* Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onward, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], which represent a nexus of psychiatry and ideological groups such as conservatives and feminists.
	* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history, resulting in the failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.		* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history, resulting in the failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.

Feminism

Jim Burton — Tue, 07 Jul 2026 09:36:47 GMT

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	* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. ~~There had even been efforts to raise the age~~ of consent to 21 years in the United States in the 1890s.<ref>[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/ What Raising the Age of Sexual Consent Taught Women About the Vote] - Smithsonian Magazine (~~August 26~~, ~~2020~~)</~~ref> It has been theorized that the goal of raising the age~~ of consent and making it socially unacceptable for men to mate with women near the beginning of their reproductive age was an attack by feminists and sex workers against their competing younger counterparts.~~<ref>[https://theantifeminist~~.~~com/different-types-of-age-cuck-explained/ "Different Types of Age Cuck Explained" - The AntiFeminist] (February 18, 2026)</ref><ref>[[Essay:A Critical Look At the Age of Consent Laws]]</ref>~~ Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and ~~onwards~~, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], ~~sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary~~ feminists.		* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]].
	* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception ~~that~~ this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.		* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority. See section on antifeminist theories later in article.
	* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.		* Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onward, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], which represent a nexus of psychiatry and ideological groups such as conservatives and feminists.
			* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history, resulting in the failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.
	* Failure of feminists to identify with or even tentatively address issues related to masculinity. Prof. [[John P. De Cecco]] argued that identity [[Wikipedia:Essentialism\|essentialist]] feminists "are jealous of men who show the kind of nurturance that only females are supposed to posses".<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:John_de_cecco_paidika_issue_3_interview.pdf De Cecco Paidika interview (1987)] - (Archived PDF copy).</ref>		* Failure of feminists to identify with or even tentatively address issues related to masculinity. Prof. [[John P. De Cecco]] argued that identity [[Wikipedia:Essentialism\|essentialist]] feminists "are jealous of men who show the kind of nurturance that only females are supposed to posses".<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/wiki/File:John_de_cecco_paidika_issue_3_interview.pdf De Cecco Paidika interview (1987)] - (Archived PDF copy).</ref>
	* The perception of modern feminism as female elitism ("feminazi", etc) and/or institutionalized model of covertly exercised authority.
	* Attempts by feminists to represent (gay) youth and encourage their "rights" and "participation" whilst at the same time [[Ageism\|infantalizing]] them and denying their autonomy.		* Attempts by feminists to represent (gay) youth and encourage their "rights" and "participation" whilst at the same time [[Ageism\|infantalizing]] them and denying their autonomy.
	* Alliances between radical feminists (TERFs/SWERFs) and violently anti-pedophile ideologies - particularly those of the right. These alliances have been rejuvenated after the [[MAP Movement]] achieved basic visibility in the 2020s.		* Alliances between radical feminists (TERFs/SWERFs) and violently anti-pedophile ideologies - particularly those of the right. These alliances have been rejuvenated after the [[MAP Movement]] achieved basic visibility in the 2020s.
	* Plain misogyny.

	~~Whilst many of these grievances may have more than a firm foothold in reality, it can certainly be said that their airing has done little good for the cause of~~ [[~~boylove~~]] or MAPs ~~in general~~.		Older MAP community websites such as [[BoyChat]] would also reveal that misogyny and conspiratorialism play roles in anti-feminist and anti-female sentiment among a minority of MAPs.

	===MAP-Exclusionary Radical Feminism===		===MAP-Exclusionary Radical Feminism===
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	<blockquote>''Historically, crusades to "save the children" emerge at the moment when progressive movements are beginning to falter. This fits the 1980s context. As social programs serving families were severely reduced, sexual abuse narratives were one way to speak about family pain. Ultimately, the crusades against child abuse gained support from all sides: from feminists ''[...]'' and liberals ''[...]''; conservatives anxious about sexual hedonism and evangelical Christians anxious about sexual sin; therapists, attorneys, and criminologists who sought to expand their professional authority; a sensation-hungry media seeking new sexual narratives; and politicians seeking a cause sure to attract support. In addition, Reagan and Bush officials promoted the idea that the greatest threat to American children was pornography rather than poverty. They funded reports on child abuse and widely disseminated the most extreme claims about the sexual victimization of children.'' (p. 452).</blockquote>		<blockquote>''Historically, crusades to "save the children" emerge at the moment when progressive movements are beginning to falter. This fits the 1980s context. As social programs serving families were severely reduced, sexual abuse narratives were one way to speak about family pain. Ultimately, the crusades against child abuse gained support from all sides: from feminists ''[...]'' and liberals ''[...]''; conservatives anxious about sexual hedonism and evangelical Christians anxious about sexual sin; therapists, attorneys, and criminologists who sought to expand their professional authority; a sensation-hungry media seeking new sexual narratives; and politicians seeking a cause sure to attract support. In addition, Reagan and Bush officials promoted the idea that the greatest threat to American children was pornography rather than poverty. They funded reports on child abuse and widely disseminated the most extreme claims about the sexual victimization of children.'' (p. 452).</blockquote>

			===Antifeminist theory===

			It has been theorized by [[Incelosphere\|Incels]], antifeminists and [[Masculism\|masculinists]] that the goal of raising the age of consent and making it socially unacceptable for men to mate with women near the beginning of their reproductive age was an attack by feminists and sex workers against their competing younger counterparts.<ref>[https://theantifeminist.com/different-types-of-age-cuck-explained/ "Different Types of Age Cuck Explained" - The AntiFeminist] (February 18, 2026)</ref><ref>[[Essay:A Critical Look At the Age of Consent Laws]]</ref> There had even been efforts to raise the age of consent to 21 years in the United States in the 1890s,<ref>[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/ What Raising the Age of Sexual Consent Taught Women About the Vote] - Smithsonian Magazine (August 26, 2020)</ref> which are ascribed by such groups to feminist civil organizing.

	==See also==		==See also==

Feminism

JJ1 — Tue, 07 Jul 2026 07:29:35 GMT

Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs: Feminists attacking competition

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	* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onwards, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary feminists.		* The role of feminists in the social purity movement of the Victorian era, and their role in raising the [[Age of Consent]]. There had even been efforts to raise the age of consent to 21 years in the United States in the 1890s.<ref>[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/what-raising-age-sexual-consent-taught-women-about-vote-180975658/ What Raising the Age of Sexual Consent Taught Women About the Vote] - Smithsonian Magazine (August 26, 2020)</ref> It has been theorized that the goal of raising the age of consent and making it socially unacceptable for men to mate with women near the beginning of their reproductive age was an attack by feminists and sex workers against their competing younger counterparts.<ref>[https://theantifeminist.com/different-types-of-age-cuck-explained/ "Different Types of Age Cuck Explained" - The AntiFeminist] (February 18, 2026)</ref><ref>[[Essay:A Critical Look At the Age of Consent Laws]]</ref> Perception of feminism as a founder member of the [[child sexual abuse]] [[psychiatry]] agenda of the late 1970s, 80s and onwards, with the establishment of psychiatric organizations such as [[The Leadership Council]], sometimes fronted by suspected exclusionary feminists.
	* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception that this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.		* Conflation of [[pederasty]] (a practice that brings with it a considerable historical tradition) with the fledgling [[incest]] model of [[Child Sexual Abuse]]. The perception that this generalization involves a knowing revision of that well-established history.
	* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.		* Failure of feminists to explain experiences of [[boy]]s and [[boylover]]s that run contrary to those speculated in feminist critiques of intergenerational relationships.

Special Article: Adverse effects of hysteria

JJ1 — Mon, 06 Jul 2026 23:56:14 GMT

added year

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	* '''[https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ Perverted Justice. Sex offender laws represent the triumph of outrage over reason.] (2011)''' [https://web.archive.org/web/20220808015126/https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ copy]		* '''[https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ Perverted Justice. Sex offender laws represent the triumph of outrage over reason.] (2011)''' [https://web.archive.org/web/20220808015126/https://reason.com/2011/06/14/perverted-justice-2/ copy]
	*:''"For example, "the minimum sentence for possession of an image of child pornography is longer than the presumptive sentence for rape or aggravated assault. A presumptive sentence for possession of two images of child pornography…is harsher than the sentences for second degree murder or sexual assault of a child under twelve….For molesting a child, one might receive the same sentence that Berger has received for possessing one picture.""''		*:''"For example, "the minimum sentence for possession of an image of child pornography is longer than the presumptive sentence for rape or aggravated assault. A presumptive sentence for possession of two images of child pornography…is harsher than the sentences for second degree murder or sexual assault of a child under twelve….For molesting a child, one might receive the same sentence that Berger has received for possessing one picture.""''
			* '''[http://archive.today/2015.01.03-230512/http://www.today.com/id/43909060/ns/today-today_news/t/hes-labeled-sex-offender-sleeping-his-own-wife/%23.VKh1iX3LfK4 For sleeping with own wife, he’s labeled sex offender] (2011)'''
			*: ''"When Frank Rodriguez and his future wife first starting having sex, they considered themselves just two of millions of teenagers who were in love. However, their love was against the law in Texas, so Rodriguez soon joined a more exclusive group, one in which no one seeks membership: He became one of more than 650,000 registered sex offenders in the United States. And today, after 15 years and four daughters with his high school sweetheart, the 34-year-old suburban father still wears the modern-day equivalent of the Scarlet Letter."''

	* '''[https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15528941/Cody-Pester-dating-former-student-Nebraska.html Teacher, 26, faces 20 years behind bars for dating high school graduate, 18] (2026)'''		* '''[https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15528941/Cody-Pester-dating-former-student-Nebraska.html Teacher, 26, faces 20 years behind bars for dating high school graduate, 18] (2026)'''

Communism

GeoTerra — Mon, 06 Jul 2026 10:00:00 GMT

Age-disparate sex: Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong

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	''Even though local lore discouraged affairs with exiles, the local girls were bound to be attracted to these worldly, educated revolutionaries in their midst. This statutory rape was not rape by force but an old-fashioned seduction.''</blockquote>		''Even though local lore discouraged affairs with exiles, the local girls were bound to be attracted to these worldly, educated revolutionaries in their midst. This statutory rape was not rape by force but an old-fashioned seduction.''</blockquote>

	~~Monifore~~ notes the [[age of consent]] among other important contextual factors:		Montefiore notes the [[age of consent]] among other important contextual factors:

	<blockquote>''Fourteen was technically the age of consent in the Russian and European regions of the Tsarist Empire, but this was Siberia. Besides, there was no precise legal concept of statutory rape in Tsarist law: for the police, it was as much a crime “against female honour” as a violation of her father’s chattels. The seducer’s agreement to marry and then the exchange of marriage vows were seen as rectifying an untoward situation.''</blockquote>		<blockquote>''Fourteen was technically the age of consent in the Russian and European regions of the Tsarist Empire, but this was Siberia. Besides, there was no precise legal concept of statutory rape in Tsarist law: for the police, it was as much a crime “against female honour” as a violation of her father’s chattels. The seducer’s agreement to marry and then the exchange of marriage vows were seen as rectifying an untoward situation.''</blockquote>

Minor Attracted Person

Jim Burton — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 20:43:43 GMT

MAP Movement

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	[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]		[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]
	There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.		There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second/third-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.

	MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.		MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.

Childlove

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	{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' was a popular community ~~euphemism~~ for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]] in the 00s ~~and~~ continues to be used ~~in two senses:~~		{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' was a popular intra-community term for [[Pedophilia\|pedophile]] in the 00s (being etymologically identical to the latter). It continues to be used occasionally for both bisexual and gender-exclusive pedophiles.

	* As a label for ~~people attracted to~~ both ~~prepubescent boys~~ and ~~girls, and~~
	* As a generic term for someone who may be attracted to either prepubescent boys or girls.

	==Popularization in the mid-00s==		==Popularization in the mid-00s==

MAP Flag

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Later controversies

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	In June, 2021, a video posted by the iconic children’s TV show ''Blues Clues'', in support of Pride month, appeared to show an inverted NOMAP Flag in one of its segments, leading to further hysteria on social media. Some users have since pointed out that the flag represented appeared to be the Gender Questioning Flag.<ref>[https://libreddit.esmailelbob.xyz/r/questions/comments/nqlsf4/does_the_blues_clues_lgbt_pride_parade_episode/ Reddit: Blues Clues]</ref>		In June, 2021, a video posted by the iconic children’s TV show ''Blues Clues'', in support of Pride month, appeared to show an inverted NOMAP Flag in one of its segments, leading to further hysteria on social media. Some users have since pointed out that the flag represented appeared to be the Gender Questioning Flag.<ref>[https://libreddit.esmailelbob.xyz/r/questions/comments/nqlsf4/does_the_blues_clues_lgbt_pride_parade_episode/ Reddit: Blues Clues]</ref>

	In 2023, considerable controversy ensued after a Twitter user revealed what she described as a [[Youth Attracted Person]] flag (featured in article).		In 2023, considerable controversy ensued after a Twitter user revealed what she described as a [[Youth Attracted Person]] flag (featured in article).

			Other controversies have involved use of the flag in [[MAP Merch Shop\|merchandising]], and occasional minor virals in which the flag graphic is seen online and sometimes in meatspaces. The general view among MAPs as to the value of these events is a positive one, since they are seen as normalizing the presence of semi-open MAPs in the community. A notable [[MAPocalypse\|controversy]] in 2026 involved the "Pedo Lives Matter" variant of the [[Mu\|2023 Union MAP Flag]], as shared in a space populated by [[Lolicon]]s.

	===MAP colours supposedly copied to LGBTQ+ "Progress Pride" flag?===		===MAP colours supposedly copied to LGBTQ+ "Progress Pride" flag?===

MAPocalypse

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	*In February, Elon Musk drew over 60M impressions on a tweet criticizing the New York Times for their historical coverage of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] and pedophilia as a disorder/not a crime.<ref>[https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026135632624652377 Tweet by Elon Musk]</ref>		*In February, Elon Musk drew over 60M impressions on a tweet criticizing the New York Times for their historical coverage of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] and pedophilia as a disorder/not a crime.<ref>[https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026135632624652377 Tweet by Elon Musk]</ref>
	*In April-May, [[Mu]] (and other MAP sites such as [[BoyChat]] and its French sub-forum) became the focus of an investigation by the citizen journalist, G Patrick.<ref>[https://www.gpatricksec.com/pedos-in-plain-site/ NAMBLA Was Just the Tip of the Iceberg], [https://www.gpatricksec.com/francerocks/ France Rocks], [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=4520 Thread documenting the various updates to G Patrick's investigation]</ref> This resulted in multiple call-outs on Reddit, in which Mu and various sites sharing the same server were presented as a "pedophile ring" without any evidence of illegal activity. The response even provoked governmental response in France (with media citing the High Commissioner for Children).<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/blog/press-release-france-has-no-right-to-call-us-pedocriminals Press Release: France has no right to call us 'pedocriminals']</ref> Attempts to remove the sites from the internet by lobbying providers were unsuccessful.		*In April-May, [[Mu]] (and other MAP sites such as [[BoyChat]] and its French sub-forum) became the focus of an investigation by the citizen journalist, G Patrick.<ref>[https://www.gpatricksec.com/pedos-in-plain-site/ NAMBLA Was Just the Tip of the Iceberg], [https://www.gpatricksec.com/francerocks/ France Rocks], [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=4520 Thread documenting the various updates to G Patrick's investigation]</ref> This resulted in multiple call-outs on Reddit, in which Mu and various sites sharing the same server were presented as a "pedophile ring" without any evidence of illegal activity. The response even provoked governmental response in France (with media citing the High Commissioner for Children).<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/blog/press-release-france-has-no-right-to-call-us-pedocriminals Press Release: France has no right to call us 'pedocriminals']</ref> Attempts to remove the sites from the internet by lobbying providers were unsuccessful.
	*In July, a tweet on X.com featuring the "[[:File:FCncb9dWUAMBHOW.png\|Pedo Lives Matter]]" [[MAP Flag]] variant by [[Newgon]]'s Jim Burton (aka Jamal Ross) drew upwards of 1.5m impressions and angry responses alleging Jewish involvement in social engineering and psychological operations. The flag-graphic had been posted in a Discord server for the [[Wikipedia:Role-playing game\|RPG]] ''Fate and Grand Order'', which features highly-popular [[Lolicon\|loli]] characters. Reactions ignored the fact that most of the responses to the graphic had been negative as per [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate]],<ref>[https://x.com/Zufrieren_/status/2072563461951762759 Tweet by Zufrieren_]</ref> and reinforced ~~that~~ idea that Loli spaces were engaged in MAP normalization, or overwhelmed with pedophiles who would not "seek help".		*In July, a tweet on X.com featuring the "[[:File:FCncb9dWUAMBHOW.png\|Pedo Lives Matter]]" [[MAP Flag]] variant by [[Newgon]]'s Jim Burton (aka Jamal Ross) drew upwards of 1.5m impressions and angry responses alleging Jewish involvement in social engineering and psychological operations. The flag-graphic had been posted in a Discord server for the [[Wikipedia:Role-playing game\|RPG]] ''Fate and Grand Order'', which features highly-popular [[Lolicon\|loli]] characters. Reactions ignored the fact that most of the responses to the graphic had been negative as per [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate]],<ref>[https://x.com/Zufrieren_/status/2072563461951762759 Tweet by Zufrieren_]</ref> and reinforced the idea that Loli spaces were engaged in MAP normalization, or overwhelmed with pedophiles who would not "seek help".

	==Opinions among MAPs==		==Opinions among MAPs==

California

JJ1 — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 06:50:47 GMT

"Don't you dare outsmart us!" - California

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	The age of consent in California is 18 years with no exception for close-in-age sexual partners.<ref>[https://www.age-of-consent.info/california What is the California Legal Age of Consent in 2026?] - "The close-in-age rule in California (3 years) do not provide an exception nor provide any defense; it merely lowers the crime to a misdemeanor."</ref> It also is the first state to have had a [[sex offender registry]].<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/perspectives/mu-lowdown-10-times-americas-sex-offender-registry-was-used-with-lethal-effect Mu Lowdown: 10 times America's Sex Offender Registries were used with lethal effect] - ''"In the 1990s, America began to ramp up deployment of one of its great social experiments, one that began many decades previous in 1940s California."''</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.03-194637/https://oag.ca.gov/sex-offender-reg California Sex Offender Registry \| State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General] - ''"In 1947, California became the first state in the nation to enact a sex offender registration law that required offenders convicted of specified offenses to register with their local law enforcement agency."''</ref>		The age of consent in California is 18 years with no exception for close-in-age sexual partners.<ref>[https://www.age-of-consent.info/california What is the California Legal Age of Consent in 2026?] - "The close-in-age rule in California (3 years) do not provide an exception nor provide any defense; it merely lowers the crime to a misdemeanor."</ref> It also is the first state to have had a [[sex offender registry]].<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/perspectives/mu-lowdown-10-times-americas-sex-offender-registry-was-used-with-lethal-effect Mu Lowdown: 10 times America's Sex Offender Registries were used with lethal effect] - ''"In the 1990s, America began to ramp up deployment of one of its great social experiments, one that began many decades previous in 1940s California."''</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.03-194637/https://oag.ca.gov/sex-offender-reg California Sex Offender Registry \| State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General] - ''"In 1947, California became the first state in the nation to enact a sex offender registration law that required offenders convicted of specified offenses to register with their local law enforcement agency."''</ref>

			With 39 million inhabitants as of 2026, California is the most populous state.<ref>[https://worldpopulationreview.com/states US States - Ranking by Population 2026] - World Population Review</ref><ref>[https://factsinstitute.com/ranking/states-by-population/ US States by Population (2026 Rankings) - The Facts Institute]</ref>

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	As of 2008<!--no more recent data found-->, California spent more money maintaining the sex offender registry than every other individual US state.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20081231152817/http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/upload/08-08_FAC_SORNACosts_JJ.pdf What will it cost states to comply with the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act?] - Justice Policy Institute</ref>		As of 2008<!--no more recent data found-->, California spent more money maintaining the sex offender registry than every other individual US state.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20081231152817/http://www.justicepolicy.org/images/upload/08-08_FAC_SORNACosts_JJ.pdf What will it cost states to comply with the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act?] - Justice Policy Institute</ref>

			To prevent people from "outsmarting" the legal system by traveling to a place with less strict age of consent laws for sexual activity that Californian law would not allow, California made it a crime to arrange a meeting with anyone under the arbitrary age of 18 for sexual activity, regardless of location. The legal code uses the terms "minor" and "child" synonymously.<ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.05-063737/https://www.simmrinlawgroup.com/faqs/why-is-traveling-to-meet-a-minor-considered-a-crime-in-california/ Why Traveling to Meet a Minor Is a Crime Under California Law]</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.05-064052/https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=288.4 California Code, PEN 288.4]</ref>

	== International impact ==		== International impact ==

Virtuous Pedophiles

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	'''Virtuous Pedophiles''' (aka '''Virped''', founded June, 2012) is an online forum and peer support community for [[anti-contact]] [[Minor Attracted People\|MAPs]].		'''Virtuous Pedophiles''' (aka '''Virped''', founded June, 2012) is an online forum and peer support community for [[anti-contact]] [[Minor Attracted People\|MAPs]].

	The forum is home to [[pedophilia\|pedophiles]] who agree to conduct themselves in a socially-appropriate fashion, refusing to support the social acceptance of [[minor-adult sex\|sex between adults and minors]]. Such ~~pedophiles~~ might be referred to '''ACNOMAPs''' - [[~~Anti~~-contact]] and [[NOMAP~~]]. The group is synonymous with its heyday of the mid~~-~~10s in much the same way [[NAMBLA~~]] ~~is associated~~ with ~~the 80s~~.		The forum is home to [[pedophilia\|pedophiles]] and [[hebephilia\|hebephiles]] who agree to conduct themselves in a socially-appropriate fashion, refusing to support the social acceptance of [[minor-adult sex\|sex between adults and minors]]. Such MAPs might be referred to '''ACNOMAPs''' - [[anti-contact]] and [[NOMAP\|non-offending]] persons with an attraction to minors.

	The group's efforts have been supported for their potential benefits by several human sexuality experts.<ref>[http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115,0,197689.story "Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia". L.A. Times.]</ref><ref>[http://ec.libsyn.com/p/f/7/c/f7cc1c69daaade64/savagelove-121812.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d01cf8f37d4ca5fff06&c_id=5238826 "Savage Love Podcast (episode 321) Starts at 21:30". Retrieved 27 April 2014.]</ref> The group was acknowledged in a New York Times editorial about the distinction between pedophilia and child sexual abuse by law professor Margo Kaplan. Kaplan wrote, "It is not that these individuals are 'inactive' or 'nonpracticing' pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act."		The group's efforts have been supported for their potential benefits by several human sexuality experts.<ref>[http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115,0,197689.story "Many researchers taking a different view of pedophilia". L.A. Times.]</ref><ref>[http://ec.libsyn.com/p/f/7/c/f7cc1c69daaade64/savagelove-121812.mp3?d13a76d516d9dec20c3d276ce028ed5089ab1ce3dae902ea1d01cf8f37d4ca5fff06&c_id=5238826 "Savage Love Podcast (episode 321) Starts at 21:30". Retrieved 27 April 2014.]</ref> The group was acknowledged in a New York Times editorial about the distinction between pedophilia and child sexual abuse by law professor Margo Kaplan. Kaplan wrote, "It is not that these individuals are 'inactive' or 'nonpracticing' pedophiles, but rather that pedophilia is a status and not an act."

			The group is synonymous with its heyday of the mid-10s in much the same way [[NAMBLA]] is associated with the 80s, yet has continued to operate as a peer support forum after support from the mainstream media waned in the 20s. Virped retained much of its support from professionals in the Mental Health and Child Protection industries during this period of managed decline in its publicity operations.

	==Operation==		==Operation==

Sex offender registry

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	==SOR in the United States==		==SOR in the United States==
			A sex offender registry was first implemented in [[California]] in 1947.<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/perspectives/mu-lowdown-10-times-americas-sex-offender-registry-was-used-with-lethal-effect Mu Lowdown: 10 times America's Sex Offender Registries were used with lethal effect] - ''"In the 1990s, America began to ramp up deployment of one of its great social experiments, one that began many decades previous in 1940s California."''</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.03-194637/https://oag.ca.gov/sex-offender-reg California Sex Offender Registry \| State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General] - ''"In 1947, California became the first state in the nation to enact a sex offender registration law that required offenders convicted of specified offenses to register with their local law enforcement agency."''</ref>

	Various jurisdictions have different criteria for being placed on the registry. In the US, each state has its own registry database. Currently, there is no Federal registration database, but legislators are currently pushing for such a registry.		Various jurisdictions have different criteria for being placed on the registry. In the US, each state has its own registry database. Currently, there is no Federal registration database, but legislators are currently pushing for such a registry.

California

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	'''California''' is a state located at the western coast of the United States. It is ~~known for being~~ one of the regions with the strictest [[age of consent]] laws in the world and a business hub for multiple high-profile tech and social media enterprises.		'''California''' is a state located at the western coast of the United States. It is one of the regions with the strictest [[age of consent]] laws in the world and a business hub for multiple high-profile tech and social media enterprises.

	The age of consent in California is 18 years with no exception for close-in-age sexual partners.<ref>[https://www.age-of-consent.info/california What is the California Legal Age of Consent in 2026?] - "The close-in-age rule in California (3 years) do not provide an exception nor provide any defense; it merely lowers the crime to a misdemeanor."</ref>		The age of consent in California is 18 years with no exception for close-in-age sexual partners.<ref>[https://www.age-of-consent.info/california What is the California Legal Age of Consent in 2026?] - "The close-in-age rule in California (3 years) do not provide an exception nor provide any defense; it merely lowers the crime to a misdemeanor."</ref> It also is the first state to have had a [[sex offender registry]].<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/perspectives/mu-lowdown-10-times-americas-sex-offender-registry-was-used-with-lethal-effect Mu Lowdown: 10 times America's Sex Offender Registries were used with lethal effect] - ''"In the 1990s, America began to ramp up deployment of one of its great social experiments, one that began many decades previous in 1940s California."''</ref><ref>[https://archive.today/2026.07.03-194637/https://oag.ca.gov/sex-offender-reg California Sex Offender Registry \| State of California - Department of Justice - Office of the Attorney General] - ''"In 1947, California became the first state in the nation to enact a sex offender registration law that required offenders convicted of specified offenses to register with their local law enforcement agency."''</ref>

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		The most commonly circulated variant of this flag is the version by Jim Burton with the horizontal gradient. [[MAP Flag]]s with words such as "pedophile lives matter" were present on social media before his designs emerged.

MAPocalypse

Jim Burton — Fri, 03 Jul 2026 10:34:52 GMT

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	*In February, Elon Musk drew over 60M impressions on a tweet criticizing the New York Times for their historical coverage of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] and pedophilia as a disorder/not a crime.<ref>[https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026135632624652377 Tweet by Elon Musk]</ref>		*In February, Elon Musk drew over 60M impressions on a tweet criticizing the New York Times for their historical coverage of [[Virtuous Pedophiles]] and pedophilia as a disorder/not a crime.<ref>[https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2026135632624652377 Tweet by Elon Musk]</ref>
	*In April-May, [[Mu]] (and other MAP sites such as [[BoyChat]] and its French sub-forum) became the focus of an investigation by the citizen journalist, G Patrick.<ref>[https://www.gpatricksec.com/pedos-in-plain-site/ NAMBLA Was Just the Tip of the Iceberg], [https://www.gpatricksec.com/francerocks/ France Rocks], [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=4520 Thread documenting the various updates to G Patrick's investigation]</ref> This resulted in multiple call-outs on Reddit, in which Mu and various sites sharing the same server were presented as a "pedophile ring" without any evidence of illegal activity. The response even provoked governmental response in France (with media citing the High Commissioner for Children).<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/blog/press-release-france-has-no-right-to-call-us-pedocriminals Press Release: France has no right to call us 'pedocriminals']</ref> Attempts to remove the sites from the internet by lobbying providers were unsuccessful.		*In April-May, [[Mu]] (and other MAP sites such as [[BoyChat]] and its French sub-forum) became the focus of an investigation by the citizen journalist, G Patrick.<ref>[https://www.gpatricksec.com/pedos-in-plain-site/ NAMBLA Was Just the Tip of the Iceberg], [https://www.gpatricksec.com/francerocks/ France Rocks], [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?t=4520 Thread documenting the various updates to G Patrick's investigation]</ref> This resulted in multiple call-outs on Reddit, in which Mu and various sites sharing the same server were presented as a "pedophile ring" without any evidence of illegal activity. The response even provoked governmental response in France (with media citing the High Commissioner for Children).<ref>[https://www.map-union.org/blog/press-release-france-has-no-right-to-call-us-pedocriminals Press Release: France has no right to call us 'pedocriminals']</ref> Attempts to remove the sites from the internet by lobbying providers were unsuccessful.
			*In July, a tweet on X.com featuring the "[[:File:FCncb9dWUAMBHOW.png\|Pedo Lives Matter]]" [[MAP Flag]] variant by [[Newgon]]'s Jim Burton (aka Jamal Ross) drew upwards of 1.5m impressions and angry responses alleging Jewish involvement in social engineering and psychological operations. The flag-graphic had been posted in a Discord server for the [[Wikipedia:Role-playing game\|RPG]] ''Fate and Grand Order'', which features highly-popular [[Lolicon\|loli]] characters. Reactions ignored the fact that most of the responses to the graphic had been negative as per [[Lolicon-MAP Equivalence Debate]],<ref>[https://x.com/Zufrieren_/status/2072563461951762759 Tweet by Zufrieren_]</ref> and reinforced that idea that Loli spaces were engaged in MAP normalization, or overwhelmed with pedophiles who would not "seek help".

	==Opinions among MAPs==		==Opinions among MAPs==

Intergenerational Lesbianism

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	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==

	The word ''korephilia'' comes from the Greek words κόρη kórē meaning "girl" and φιλία philíā meaning "love". The word ''lesbian'' itself is an allusion to Sappho, originating from the name of the island of ''Lesbos'', where she was born. Sappho was a teacher and priestess of Aphrodite, the goddess of love and sexual passion, and was said to have had consensual sexual contact with her female adolescent students.<ref>[https://www.nambla.org/sappho.htm Linda Frankel, Sappho Was a Right-On Girl-Lover!] ''NAMBLA Bulletin'', Vol. 4, No. 3, Pg. 9, 1983. Also reprinted in ''Not Fade Away: Selections from the NAMBLA Bulletin''. For further discussion, see [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?p=4689#p4689 ''Sappho: The Tenth Muse''] (author unknown).</ref> Writing for [[NAMBLA]], Linda Frankel explained~~, "How do we know how the girls felt about it? Sappho quotes her student Atthis as saying~~:		The word ''korephilia'' comes from the Greek words κόρη kórē meaning "girl" and φιλία philíā meaning "love". The word ''lesbian'' itself is an allusion to Sappho, originating from the name of the island of ''Lesbos'', where she was born. Sappho was a teacher and priestess of Aphrodite, the goddess of love and sexual passion, and was said to have had consensual sexual contact with her female adolescent students.<ref name="frankel">[https://www.nambla.org/sappho.htm Linda Frankel, Sappho Was a Right-On Girl-Lover!] ''NAMBLA Bulletin'', Vol. 4, No. 3, Pg. 9, 1983. Also reprinted in ''Not Fade Away: Selections from the NAMBLA Bulletin''. For further discussion, see [https://forum.map-union.org/viewtopic.php?p=4689#p4689 ''Sappho: The Tenth Muse''] (author unknown).</ref> Writing for [[NAMBLA]], Linda Frankel explained:

	<blockquote>		<blockquote>
	''Sappho~~, if you will not get up~~''		''How do we know how the girls felt about it? Sappho quotes her student Atthis as saying:''

	''~~and let us look at~~ you''		::''Sappho, if you will not get up''

	''~~I shall never love~~ you ~~again~~''		::''and let us look at you''

	''~~Get up, unleash your suppleness~~''		::''I shall never love you again''

	''lift off your Chian nightdress''<ref>(Fragment 43 in SAPPHO: A NEW TRANSLATION by Mary Barnard, University of California Press 1958).</ref>		::''Get up, unleash your suppleness''

			::''lift off your Chian nightdress''<ref>(Fragment 43 in SAPPHO: A NEW TRANSLATION by Mary Barnard, University of California Press 1958).</ref>
	</blockquote>		</blockquote>

	~~[...] One~~ does not berate one's teacher for refusing to get undressed unless one happens to like looking at her naked."<ref~~>Frankel, Op. cit.<~~/~~ref~~>		Frankel argued that "one does not berate one's teacher for refusing to get undressed unless one happens to like looking at her naked."<ref name="frankel"/>

	Frankel argued that "Sexual relationships between student and teacher that involved mutual consent were actually considered in a positive light. Learning intimacy from an experienced adult was considered beneficial for the young and a significant part of their education. [...] If the lesbian community of today were aware that their foremother, Sappho, was a lover of girls, they might not be so quick to condemn [[NAMBLA]]". She ends with Sappho's blessing:		Frankel also argued that "Sexual relationships between student and teacher that involved mutual consent were actually considered in a positive light. Learning intimacy from an experienced adult was considered beneficial for the young and a significant part of their education. [...] If the lesbian community of today were aware that their foremother, Sappho, was a lover of girls, they might not be so quick to condemn [[NAMBLA]]". She ends with Sappho's blessing:

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	*Lauren Jae Gutterman. (2026). Intergenerational Sex in One Teenager in Ten. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 35(1), 144-151. - An analysis of ''One Teenager in Ten: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth'' (ed. by Ann Heron; Alyson books: Boston, 1983), which included several testimonies of relationships between legally defined minors and adults.<ref>Gutterman, L.J. (2026). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.00058 Intergenerational Sex in One Teenager in Ten]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 35(1), 144-151.</ref>		*Lauren Jae Gutterman. (2026). Intergenerational Sex in One Teenager in Ten. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 35(1), 144-151. - An analysis of ''One Teenager in Ten: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth'' (ed. by Ann Heron; Alyson books: Boston, 1983), which included several testimonies of relationships between legally defined minors and adults.<ref>Gutterman, L.J. (2026). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.00058 Intergenerational Sex in One Teenager in Ten]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 35(1), 144-151.</ref>

	*::"Amy, a sixteen-year-old girl from a conservative Baptist family in Texas, recounts how she developed a crush on her dance teacher when she was only nine years old. After three years, at age twelve, Amy's twenty-three-year-old dance teacher “brought her out” sexually when they shared a hotel room on a trip for an out-of-town dance performance. Amy's relationship with her dance teacher continued secretly for several years until Amy and her family eventually moved away. The dance teacher validated Amy’s sexual identity and introduced Amy to books and other resources about lesbian life. In fact, Amy’s teacher was the first to introduce her to the word “lesbian” itself. Writing for ''One Teenager in Ten'' several years later while in the midst of a lesbian relationship with a similarly aged peer, Amy continued to have positive feelings about her sexual relationship with her teacher and remained in contact with her." (Gutterman, pp. 146-147). [Note: this testimony is quoted directly from the 1983 book in our [[Testimony:_Adult_Female_with_Minor\|'adult female with minor' lived experiences]] page].		<blockquote>''Amy, a sixteen-year-old girl from a conservative Baptist family in Texas, recounts how she developed a crush on her dance teacher when she was only nine years old. After three years, at age twelve, Amy's twenty-three-year-old dance teacher “brought her out” sexually when they shared a hotel room on a trip for an out-of-town dance performance. Amy's relationship with her dance teacher continued secretly for several years until Amy and her family eventually moved away. The dance teacher validated Amy’s sexual identity and introduced Amy to books and other resources about lesbian life. In fact, Amy’s teacher was the first to introduce her to the word “lesbian” itself. Writing for ''One Teenager in Ten'' several years later while in the midst of a lesbian relationship with a similarly aged peer, Amy continued to have positive feelings about her sexual relationship with her teacher and remained in contact with her.'' (Gutterman, pp. 146-147). [Note: this testimony is quoted directly from the 1983 book in our [[Testimony:_Adult_Female_with_Minor\|'adult female with minor' lived experiences]] page].</blockquote>

	*Amanda H. Littauer, ''Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s'', in ''Historical Reflections'', 46:1 (2020), 95-108.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.3167/hrrh.2020.460107 Littauer - Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s]</ref>		*Amanda H. Littauer, ''Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s'', in ''Historical Reflections'', 46:1 (2020), 95-108.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.3167/hrrh.2020.460107 Littauer - Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s]</ref>

Testimony: Adult Female with Minor

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	*:She initiated the relationship and did not see it as interfering with its pedagogical function. The relationship between the two, however, was forcibly interrupted by a complaint from the teenager's mother and the girlfriend was accused of rape of a vulnerable person, even under strong protests from the alleged victim.		*:She initiated the relationship and did not see it as interfering with its pedagogical function. The relationship between the two, however, was forcibly interrupted by a complaint from the teenager's mother and the girlfriend was accused of rape of a vulnerable person, even under strong protests from the alleged victim.
	*'''Amy (16, [https://www.brongersma.info/images/Anthology_01.pdf commenting on a relationship with her teacher when aged 12]) in "One Teenager in Ten: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth"''':		*'''Amy (16, [https://www.brongersma.info/images/Anthology_01.pdf commenting on a relationship with her teacher when aged 12]) in "One Teenager in Ten: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth"''':
	*:"I am a sixteen‑year‑old lesbian. I have been a lesbian since I was twelve. I had known my dance teacher for three years before she brought me out. I was very attracted to her when I first saw her, and from then on, I grew to be more and more in love with her. When I was ten, I had a crush on a friend of my older sister, and some time after that another crush on a cousin of mine. But these didnʹt last long. I always wanted to be near my teacher, dance well for her, and have her touch me! Often while falling asleep at night I would think about her holding me in her arms while Iʹd go to sleep or about her kissing me. I didnʹt know anything about lesbians then, so I didnʹt associate my feelings with anything but my love for her. We became lovers the weekend I was asked to give a special dance presentation in another city. My dance instructor chose me and accompanied me there. She was 23. After the performance, we returned to our room. She was elated with my reception, and hugged me and told me how good I was. I felt so good being held by her, being so close to her; secure in the arms of a woman I had admired and loved for three years. Her eyes were so alive, so exciting; her smile so sensuous. When she said, ʺLet me help you take this off,ʺ I could only hope something might happen. I let my arms hang loose as she slipped the leotards over my shoulders, then I cooperated with her so my arms could be freed, leaving the costume hanging at my waist, with my breasts bare. ʺYou are so pretty,ʺ she said, placing her hands on my neck and then running them down my chest and then running them down my chest, over my breasts and then cupping them in her hands. I loved what she was doing, especially when she licked her index finger and began rubbing my left nipple, making it hard. She did the same with the right one, and I held her tightly around the waist. ʺDoes this feel good?ʺ she asked. ʺYes, donʹt stop.ʺ Then she took a nipple in each hand and rolled them between her fingers. At the same time she moved closer to me. From the waist down we were touching; from the waist up, separated enough for her to get her hands on my breasts. Somehow our lips met, tentative at first and then we kissed passionately with her tongue edging its way into my mouth. I began sucking her tongue, and for the first time I felt tingly all over. My next sensation was our deep breathing, then I felt her hands move from my front to my back, and she pressed tighter to me. Then she moved her hands down to my butt, massaging, and pushing my pelvis into hers. When I felt some thrusts of her pelvis against mine, my eyes opened wide. She responded by saying, ʺYou really turn me on...do you like this?ʺ ʺOh, yes.ʺ She said ʺLetʹs take this off,ʺ referring to the costume still covering my bottom. Down it came, and I stepped out of it. She held me at arms length, saying, ʺI want to look at you.ʺ Her hands moved from my neck, to my shoulders, down over my nipples to my waist; one hand on each side. Then she told me I was sexy and moved her right hand down my stomach and lower. I knew what she was going to do, hoping those sensations I had felt before would be even better. They were, as she concentrated on my clitoris with a circular motion, slipping her middle finger between my lips and occasionally into me. ʺI want to make love to you. Letʹs go to bed.ʺ We continued that night, all weekend and for almost three years until I had to move with my family. I became a lesbian and a woman that weekend!"		*:"I am a sixteen‑year‑old lesbian. I have been a lesbian since I was twelve. I had known my dance teacher for three years before she brought me out. I was very attracted to her when I first saw her, and from then on, I grew to be more and more in love with her. When I was ten, I had a crush on a friend of my older sister, and some time after that another crush on a cousin of mine. But these didnʹt last long. I always wanted to be near my teacher, dance well for her, and have her touch me! Often while falling asleep at night I would think about her holding me in her arms while Iʹd go to sleep or about her kissing me. I didnʹt know anything about lesbians then, so I didnʹt associate my feelings with anything but my love for her. We became lovers the weekend I was asked to give a special dance presentation in another city. My dance instructor chose me and accompanied me there. She was 23. After the performance, we returned to our room. She was elated with my reception, and hugged me and told me how good I was. I felt so good being held by her, being so close to her; secure in the arms of a woman I had admired and loved for three years. Her eyes were so alive, so exciting; her smile so sensuous. When she said, ʺLet me help you take this off,ʺ I could only hope something might happen. I let my arms hang loose as she slipped the leotards over my shoulders, then I cooperated with her so my arms could be freed, leaving the costume hanging at my waist, with my breasts bare. ʺYou are so pretty,ʺ she said, placing her hands on my neck and then running them down my chest and then running them down my chest, over my breasts and then cupping them in her hands. I loved what she was doing, especially when she licked her index finger and began rubbing my left nipple, making it hard. She did the same with the right one, and I held her tightly around the waist. ʺDoes this feel good?ʺ she asked. ʺYes, donʹt stop.ʺ Then she took a nipple in each hand and rolled them between her fingers. At the same time she moved closer to me. From the waist down we were touching; from the waist up, separated enough for her to get her hands on my breasts. Somehow our lips met, tentative at first and then we kissed passionately with her tongue edging its way into my mouth. I began sucking her tongue, and for the first time I felt tingly all over. My next sensation was our deep breathing, then I felt her hands move from my front to my back, and she pressed tighter to me. Then she moved her hands down to my butt, massaging, and pushing my pelvis into hers. When I felt some thrusts of her pelvis against mine, my eyes opened wide. She responded by saying, ʺYou really turn me on...do you like this?ʺ ʺOh, yes.ʺ She said ʺLetʹs take this off,ʺ referring to the costume still covering my bottom. Down it came, and I stepped out of it. She held me at arms length, saying, ʺI want to look at you.ʺ Her hands moved from my neck, to my shoulders, down over my nipples to my waist; one hand on each side. Then she told me I was sexy and moved her right hand down my stomach and lower. I knew what she was going to do, hoping those sensations I had felt before would be even better. They were, as she concentrated on my clitoris with a circular motion, slipping her middle finger between my lips and occasionally into me. ʺI want to make love to you. Letʹs go to bed.ʺ We continued that night, all weekend and for almost three years until I had to move with my family. I became a lesbian and a woman that weekend!"<ref>Note that this case has received commentary in academia by Lauren Jae Gutterman, in Gutterman, L.J. (2026). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.00058 Intergenerational Sex in One Teenager in Ten]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 35(1), 144-151.</ref>

	*'''[http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/recycle-bin/is-not-okay/t.28768307_526/ Post by "Self-Rolled Poison"] in discussion of pedophilia is not okay in a forum on Gaia Online, June 30, 2007.'''		*'''[http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/recycle-bin/is-not-okay/t.28768307_526/ Post by "Self-Rolled Poison"] in discussion of pedophilia is not okay in a forum on Gaia Online, June 30, 2007.'''

Intergenerational Lesbianism

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			*Lauren Jae Gutterman. (2026). Intergenerational Sex in One Teenager in Ten. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 35(1), 144-151. - An analysis of ''One Teenager in Ten: Writings by Gay and Lesbian Youth'' (ed. by Ann Heron; Alyson books: Boston, 1983), which included several testimonies of relationships between legally defined minors and adults.<ref>Gutterman, L.J. (2026). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.00058 Intergenerational Sex in One Teenager in Ten]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 35(1), 144-151.</ref>

			*::"Amy, a sixteen-year-old girl from a conservative Baptist family in Texas, recounts how she developed a crush on her dance teacher when she was only nine years old. After three years, at age twelve, Amy's twenty-three-year-old dance teacher “brought her out” sexually when they shared a hotel room on a trip for an out-of-town dance performance. Amy's relationship with her dance teacher continued secretly for several years until Amy and her family eventually moved away. The dance teacher validated Amy’s sexual identity and introduced Amy to books and other resources about lesbian life. In fact, Amy’s teacher was the first to introduce her to the word “lesbian” itself. Writing for ''One Teenager in Ten'' several years later while in the midst of a lesbian relationship with a similarly aged peer, Amy continued to have positive feelings about her sexual relationship with her teacher and remained in contact with her." (Gutterman, pp. 146-147). [Note: this testimony is quoted directly from the 1983 book in our [[Testimony:_Adult_Female_with_Minor\|'adult female with minor' lived experiences]] page].

	*Amanda H. Littauer, ''Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s'', in ''Historical Reflections'', 46:1 (2020), 95-108.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.3167/hrrh.2020.460107 Littauer - Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s]</ref>		*Amanda H. Littauer, ''Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s'', in ''Historical Reflections'', 46:1 (2020), 95-108.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.3167/hrrh.2020.460107 Littauer - Queer Girls and Intergenerational Lesbian Sexuality in the 1970s]</ref>

Thomas O'Carroll

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	~~__NOTOc__~~[[File:ToC.png\|thumb\|Thomas O'Carroll]]'''Thomas Victor O'Carroll''' (born c. 1945<ref name="bbc21">[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/coventry_warwickshire/5367968.stm "Pair admit to child porn charges,"] September 2006, [[BBC]].</ref>) is an Irish/British journalist, academic and advocate for [[Minor Attracted Person\|MAPs]], being an early member and chairperson of the now defunct [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE), and a founding member of [[Ipce]]. Presently, he publishes a blog at '''heretictoc.com''', which attracts around 2,000 comments on a yearly basis.		__NOTOC__[[File:ToC.png\|thumb\|Thomas O'Carroll]]'''Thomas Victor O'Carroll''' (born c. 1945<ref name="bbc21">[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/coventry_warwickshire/5367968.stm "Pair admit to child porn charges,"] September 2006, [[BBC]].</ref>) is an Irish/British journalist, academic and advocate for [[Minor Attracted Person\|MAPs]], being an early member and chairperson of the now defunct [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] (PIE), and a founding member of [[Ipce]]. Presently, he publishes a blog at '''heretictoc.com''', which attracts around 2,000 comments on a yearly basis.

	Born in County Carlow, Ireland, O'Carroll gained notoriety in 1980 when he published ''[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]''<ref>[http://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/preface.htm Paedophilia: The Radical Case, PDF (hosted on IPCE)]; The same PDF is [http://library.lol/main/A3AE585C3F0C54C3EAB7CDC09EA8C90F archived with novel description on Libgen].</ref>, a book that articulated an ethical case for adult-child sexual relationships, and again in 2010, with ''Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons''.<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jacksons-Dangerous-Liaisons-Carl/dp/1848763409 Amazon: Dangerous Liaisons]</ref><ref>[https://libgen.rocks/ad.php?md5=d1ba0af152fa18c758c3f8cc415a2fd7&uid=1602 Libgen: Dangerous Liaisons]</ref> O'Carroll has also published a number of academic articles. British mainstream media has dubbed O'Carroll both Ireland<ref>[https://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/mar/04/digitaltv.broadcasting Cozens, BBC braced for paedophile row (''The Guardian'', 2003)]</ref> and Britain's "most notorious paedophile".<ref>[https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8548584/paedophile-tom-ocarroll-invited-to-house-of-lords-bash/ Wilkinson, LOUSE OF LORDS: Vile paedophile campaigner invited to plush champagne bash at the House of Lords (''The Sun'', 2019)]</ref><ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8466899/Paedophiles-rebrand-minor-attracted-persons-chilling-online-propaganda-drive.html Denkinson, Outrage as paedophiles rebrand themselves as 'minor-attracted persons' in chilling online propaganda drive (''Daily Mail'', 2019)]</ref>		Born in County Carlow, Ireland, O'Carroll gained notoriety in 1980 when he published ''[[Paedophilia: The Radical Case]]''<ref>[http://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/preface.htm Paedophilia: The Radical Case, PDF (hosted on IPCE)]; The same PDF is [http://library.lol/main/A3AE585C3F0C54C3EAB7CDC09EA8C90F archived with novel description on Libgen].</ref>, a book that articulated an ethical case for adult-child sexual relationships, and again in 2010, with ''Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons''.<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Michael-Jacksons-Dangerous-Liaisons-Carl/dp/1848763409 Amazon: Dangerous Liaisons]</ref><ref>[https://libgen.rocks/ad.php?md5=d1ba0af152fa18c758c3f8cc415a2fd7&uid=1602 Libgen: Dangerous Liaisons]</ref> O'Carroll has also published a number of academic articles. British mainstream media has dubbed O'Carroll both Ireland<ref>[https://www.theguardian.com/media/2003/mar/04/digitaltv.broadcasting Cozens, BBC braced for paedophile row (''The Guardian'', 2003)]</ref> and Britain's "most notorious paedophile".<ref>[https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8548584/paedophile-tom-ocarroll-invited-to-house-of-lords-bash/ Wilkinson, LOUSE OF LORDS: Vile paedophile campaigner invited to plush champagne bash at the House of Lords (''The Sun'', 2019)]</ref><ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8466899/Paedophiles-rebrand-minor-attracted-persons-chilling-online-propaganda-drive.html Denkinson, Outrage as paedophiles rebrand themselves as 'minor-attracted persons' in chilling online propaganda drive (''Daily Mail'', 2019)]</ref>

	Gay historian [[William Percy]] stated that O'Carroll argued "''for replacement of the age of consent law with a more flexible and liberal legal framework. It was felt the legitimate protection of children could be reconciled with an acceptance of child sexuality, the right of the young to sexual self-determination, and the legitimacy of consensual child-adult sexual contacts. A journalist, O’Carroll was PIE’s public face in the later 70s, when he propelled the organisation to national prominence''".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220403230005/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:O%27Carroll,_Tom Percy wiki entry for O'Carroll] (webarchive)</ref>		Gay historian [[William Percy]] stated that O'Carroll argued "''for replacement of the age of consent law with a more flexible and liberal legal framework. It was felt the legitimate protection of children could be reconciled with an acceptance of child sexuality, the right of the young to sexual self-determination, and the legitimacy of consensual child-adult sexual contacts. A journalist, O’Carroll was PIE’s public face in the later 70s, when he propelled the organisation to national prominence''".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20220403230005/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Category:O%27Carroll,_Tom Percy wiki entry for O'Carroll] (webarchive)</ref>

			==Gallery==

			Like many in PIE during the 1970s, O'Carroll was politically left-leaning. He identifies as a democratic [[Communism\|socialist]] and equal opportunities [[Feminism\|feminist]].

			<gallery>
			File:519525527-275720908-0ca81e0a958846fb.png\|<small>The "Five Heads" of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, plus Tom O'Carroll.</small>
			File:822676323-571745461- tom-ocarroll.jpg\|[[Wikipedia:Posterization\|Posterised]] photographic depiction of O'Carroll.
			File:ToCperv.png\|Quote from ''Radical Case'' on non-consent [[paraphilia]]s.
			</gallery>

	==Works==		==Works==
	[[File:519525527-275720908-0ca81e0a958846fb.png\|thumb\|The "Five Heads" of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao, plus Tom who, like many in PIE during the 1970s, was politically left-leaning. O'Carroll identifies as a democratic [[Communism\|socialist]] and equal opportunities [[Feminism\|feminist]].]]
	:''For a full list of writings, see [[Tom_O'Carroll's_Publications\|our list of publications]]. For a list and analysis, see [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Tom_O'Carroll BoyWiki].''		:''For a full list of writings, see [[Tom_O'Carroll's_Publications\|our list of publications]]. For a list and analysis, see [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Tom_O'Carroll BoyWiki].''

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	O’Carroll’s book on singer Michael Jackson was published in 2010 under the pen name “Carl Toms”. Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Liaisons, a 624-page work, essayed a comprehensive review of the late entertainer’s controversially intimate relationships with preadolescent and adolescent boys. Published in the UK by Troubador Publishing Ltd. "At seventeen years in the making and a hefty 624 pages, this has been O'Carroll's most ambitious work, in which, under the pen name Carl Toms, he essays a comprehensive review of the late entertainer’s controversially intimate relationships with young boys. Described in the linked biography by historian [[William Percy]] as "a work of genius", Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons received enthusiastic pre-publication endorsements from five eminent professors, including [[Richard Green]], [[Donald West]], [[James Kincaid]], [[Thomas Hubbard]], and Percy himself. After publication another renowned scholar, J. Michael Bailey, professor of psychology at Northwestern University, also gave high praise in a four-page review for the academic journal [[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]. Bailey, a family man, wrote, “The idea that pedophilic relationships can be harmless or even beneficial to children is disturbing to many people, including me.” But, he continued, “The lack of scientific evidence supporting my largely visceral reactions against pedophilic relationships has been one of the most surprising discoveries of my hopefully ongoing scientific education. [...] O’Carroll argues against my intuitions and he argues well.”		O’Carroll’s book on singer Michael Jackson was published in 2010 under the pen name “Carl Toms”. Michael Jackson’s Dangerous Liaisons, a 624-page work, essayed a comprehensive review of the late entertainer’s controversially intimate relationships with preadolescent and adolescent boys. Published in the UK by Troubador Publishing Ltd. "At seventeen years in the making and a hefty 624 pages, this has been O'Carroll's most ambitious work, in which, under the pen name Carl Toms, he essays a comprehensive review of the late entertainer’s controversially intimate relationships with young boys. Described in the linked biography by historian [[William Percy]] as "a work of genius", Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons received enthusiastic pre-publication endorsements from five eminent professors, including [[Richard Green]], [[Donald West]], [[James Kincaid]], [[Thomas Hubbard]], and Percy himself. After publication another renowned scholar, J. Michael Bailey, professor of psychology at Northwestern University, also gave high praise in a four-page review for the academic journal [[Archives of Sexual Behavior]]. Bailey, a family man, wrote, “The idea that pedophilic relationships can be harmless or even beneficial to children is disturbing to many people, including me.” But, he continued, “The lack of scientific evidence supporting my largely visceral reactions against pedophilic relationships has been one of the most surprising discoveries of my hopefully ongoing scientific education. [...] O’Carroll argues against my intuitions and he argues well.”
	~~[[File:822676323-571745461- tom-ocarroll.jpg\|thumb\|Artistic depiction of O'Carroll.]]~~
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	~~[[File:ToCperv.png\|thumb\|Quote from ''Radical Case'' on non-consent [[paraphilia]]s]]~~
	O'Carroll is no stranger to being courted by prestigious platforms due to his experience in MAP advocacy, but has often subsequently fallen foul of public backlash. For example, in 2001 ''Is paedophilia violent?'', a paper for the ''World Congress of Sexology'', Paris, was given sustained encouragement over nearly a year by Dr Marc Ganem, the Congress President. However, the paper was eventually rejected without explanation by the Committee. After repeated demands for an explanation went unanswered, O'Carroll was finally able to talk to Ganem. In a phone conversation, Ganem indicated that the President of the Scientific Committee, Dr Willy Pasini, appeared to be concerned not about the scientific quality of the paper but by the controversy to which it might give rise. It seems the committee did not want to upset the major pharmaceutical companies sponsoring the congress, nor the politically sensitive [[Wikipedia:World Health Organization\|WHO]], with which it was associated. In order to combat this censorship, O'Carroll's supporters attended the congress, where they distributed his paper on a CD, along with a flyer titled ''Censored: The Speech They Didn't Want You To Hear''.<ref>[https://www.helping-people.info/articles/violent_frame.htm ''Is Paedophilia Violent?'' A paper prepared for the World Congress of Sexology, Paris 2001]</ref>		O'Carroll is no stranger to being courted by prestigious platforms due to his experience in MAP advocacy, but has often subsequently fallen foul of public backlash. For example, in 2001 ''Is paedophilia violent?'', a paper for the ''World Congress of Sexology'', Paris, was given sustained encouragement over nearly a year by Dr Marc Ganem, the Congress President. However, the paper was eventually rejected without explanation by the Committee. After repeated demands for an explanation went unanswered, O'Carroll was finally able to talk to Ganem. In a phone conversation, Ganem indicated that the President of the Scientific Committee, Dr Willy Pasini, appeared to be concerned not about the scientific quality of the paper but by the controversy to which it might give rise. It seems the committee did not want to upset the major pharmaceutical companies sponsoring the congress, nor the politically sensitive [[Wikipedia:World Health Organization\|WHO]], with which it was associated. In order to combat this censorship, O'Carroll's supporters attended the congress, where they distributed his paper on a CD, along with a flyer titled ''Censored: The Speech They Didn't Want You To Hear''.<ref>[https://www.helping-people.info/articles/violent_frame.htm ''Is Paedophilia Violent?'' A paper prepared for the World Congress of Sexology, Paris 2001]</ref>

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	[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]		[[File:Pedipoll.png\|thumb\|<small>A reasonably well-shared Sep 2023 poll on [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] suggested MAPs and allies favored the terminology, with many suggesting that it had become more familiar than [[Youth Attracted Person]] for example</small>]]
	There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.		There exists a small, mainly online [[MAP Movement]] - and occasional groups of allies who work together on social media. This is a developing trend, and is described as the '''second/third-wave MAP Movement''', beginning with the proliferation of the internet at around the turn of the century. The common goal of this movement is destigmatization/visibility, although some parts of the MAP movement ([[pro-c]]/pro choice) are also in favor of relaxing the [[Age of Consent\|age of consent]] and prohibitions on other age-restricted activities. Pro-choice MAP activists commonly use resources such as our [[Research\|research]] anthologies to argue their case. They will be found on pre-2010 web forums, FreeSpeechTube and chat services such as Matrix. Anti-c/[[Anti-contact\|anti-contact]] MAP activists tend to associate with organizations such as [[Virtuous Pedophiles]], [[Prostasia Foundation\|MSC]] and on various [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] instances.

	MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.		MAPs have a [[:Category:Organisations: Sympathetic\|long history of organizing]], going back to former associations with the Gay Movement; debatably to its very founding. We describe these manifestations as the '''first-wave MAP Movement''', and such organizations were typically founded in the 1970s and 80s. At the time, they described themselves as pederast, pedophile and Man/Boy Love groups (since there was less of a stigma on those terms). The LGBT alliances only [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|broke down in the late 80s and 90s]] for political reasons (gay [[assimilationism]]). For the purpose of activism, those organizations still existing continue to operate as websites and close circles of long-term members only - [[NAMBLA]] being the most high-profile example.

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	[[David T. Evans\|Evans]], [[John Holt\|Holt]], [[Clarence Tripp\|Tripp]], [[Paul D. Hardman\|Hardman]], [[Wilhelm Reich\|Reich]]<br />		[[David T. Evans\|Evans]], [[John Holt\|Holt]], [[Clarence Tripp\|Tripp]], [[Paul D. Hardman\|Hardman]], [[Wilhelm Reich\|Reich]]<br />
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