Andre Gide - Revision history

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	*[[Henry de Montherlant]]		*[[Henry de Montherlant]]
	*[[Jean-Claude Féray]]		*[[Jean-Claude Féray]]

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	In his journal, Gide distinguishes between adult-attracted “sodomites” and boy-loving “pederasts”, categorizing himself as the latter (Gide, 1948)<ref>Gide A. (1948). O’Brien J., translator. The Journals Of André Gide, Vol II 1914-1927. Alfred A.Knopf. 246-247)pp.</ref>:		In his journal, Gide distinguishes between adult-attracted “sodomites” and boy-loving “pederasts”, categorizing himself as the latter (Gide, 1948)<ref>Gide A. (1948). O’Brien J., translator. The Journals Of André Gide, Vol II 1914-1927. Alfred A.Knopf. 246-247)pp.</ref>:

	<blockquote>''I call a pederast the man who, as the word indicates, falls in love with young boys. I call a sodomite (“The word is sodomite, sir,” said Verlaine to the judge who asked him if it were true that he was a sodomist) the man whose desire is addressed to mature men. […]		<blockquote>''I call a pederast the man who, as the word indicates, falls in love with young boys. I call a sodomite (“The word is sodomite, sir,” said Verlaine to the judge who asked him if it were true that he was a sodomist) the man whose desire is addressed to mature men. ''[…]

	The pederasts, of whom I am one (why cannot I say this quite simply, without your immediately claiming to see a brag in my confession?), are much rarer, and the sodomites much more numerous, than I first thought. […]		''The pederasts, of whom I am one (why cannot I say this quite simply, without your immediately claiming to see a brag in my confession?), are much rarer, and the sodomites much more numerous, than I first thought.'' […]

	That such loves can spring up, that such relationships can be formed, it is not enough for me to say that this is natural; I maintain that it is good; each of the two finds exaltation, protection, a challenge in them; and I wonder whether it is for the youth or the elder man that they are more profitable.''</blockquote>		''That such loves can spring up, that such relationships can be formed, it is not enough for me to say that this is natural; I maintain that it is good; each of the two finds exaltation, protection, a challenge in them; and I wonder whether it is for the youth or the elder man that they are more profitable.''</blockquote>

	Gide was bisexual, although he preferred young males. His journal approvingly describes the bodies of a 12-year-old male and young female<ref>Gide (1948, p. 334).</ref>:		Gide was bisexual, although he preferred young males. His journal approvingly describes the bodies of a 12-year-old male and young female<ref>Gide (1948, p. 334).</ref>:
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	In the company of [[Oscar Wilde]], he had several sexual experiences with young boys abroad (Gide, 1935, p. 288):<ref>Gide A. (1935). Bussy D., translator. ''If It Die: An Autobiography''. New York: Random House.</ref>		In the company of [[Oscar Wilde]], he had several sexual experiences with young boys abroad (Gide, 1935, p. 288):<ref>Gide A. (1935). Bussy D., translator. ''If It Die: An Autobiography''. New York: Random House.</ref>

	<blockquote>''Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […]		<blockquote>''Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued.'' […]

	My joy was unbounded, and I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added. How should there have been any question of love? How should I have allowed desire to dispose of my heart? No scruple clouded my pleasure and no remorse followed it. But what name then am I to give the rapture I felt as I clasped in my naked arms that perfect little body, so wild, so ardent, so sombrely lascivious?		''My joy was unbounded, and I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added. How should there have been any question of love? How should I have allowed desire to dispose of my heart? No scruple clouded my pleasure and no remorse followed it. But what name then am I to give the rapture I felt as I clasped in my naked arms that perfect little body, so wild, so ardent, so sombrely lascivious?''

	or a long time after Mohammed had left me, I remained in a state of passionate jubilation, and though I had already achieved pleasure five times with him, I renewed my ecstasy again and again, and when I got back to my room in the hotel, I prolonged its echoes until morning.''</blockquote>		''For a long time after Mohammed had left me, I remained in a state of passionate jubilation, and though I had already achieved pleasure five times with him, I renewed my ecstasy again and again, and when I got back to my room in the hotel, I prolonged its echoes until morning.''</blockquote>

	Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.		Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.

	==See also==		==See also==

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	*[[Oscar Wilde]]		*[[Oscar Wilde]]
	*[[Pierre Louys]]		*[[Pierre Louys]]
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	*[[Johann Wolfgang von Goethe]]		*[[Johann Wolfgang von Goethe]]
	*[[Thomas Mann]]		*[[Thomas Mann]]
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	==References==		==References==

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	<blockquote>''Both at Saint-Martin and here I have seen, among the guests of the hotel, none but faces exuding stupidity, egotism, and vulgarity. (Except for a Greek boy of twelve with a marvelous face and body, wonderfully svelte; but excessively aware of his beauty and, consequently, quite stupid with self-satisfaction.) Yet at the next table to the one where I am writing, and turning her back to me, a girl, barely beyond childhood, with great elegance in her outlines, whom M. would like. I do not tire of looking at her; she notices this and, I believe, is amused by it. But already one can foresee just where her features are going to thicken and become heavy.''</blockquote>		<blockquote>''Both at Saint-Martin and here I have seen, among the guests of the hotel, none but faces exuding stupidity, egotism, and vulgarity. (Except for a Greek boy of twelve with a marvelous face and body, wonderfully svelte; but excessively aware of his beauty and, consequently, quite stupid with self-satisfaction.) Yet at the next table to the one where I am writing, and turning her back to me, a girl, barely beyond childhood, with great elegance in her outlines, whom M. would like. I do not tire of looking at her; she notices this and, I believe, is amused by it. But already one can foresee just where her features are going to thicken and become heavy.''</blockquote>

	In the company of Oscar Wilde, he had several sexual experiences with young boys abroad (Gide, 1935, p. 288):<ref>Gide A. (1935). Bussy D., translator. ''If It Die: An Autobiography''. New York: Random House.</ref>		In the company of [[Oscar Wilde]], he had several sexual experiences with young boys abroad (Gide, 1935, p. 288):<ref>Gide A. (1935). Bussy D., translator. ''If It Die: An Autobiography''. New York: Random House.</ref>

	<blockquote>''Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […]		<blockquote>''Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […]

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	==See also==		==See also==
			*[[Oscar Wilde]]
	*[[Pierre Louys]]		*[[Pierre Louys]]
	*[[Roger Peyrefitte]]		*[[Roger Peyrefitte]]

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	Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.		Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.

			==See also==
			*[[Pierre Louys]]
			*[[Roger Peyrefitte]]
			*[[Jacques d'Adelsward-Fersen]]
			*[[Henry de Montherlant]]
			*[[Jean-Claude Féray]]
			*[[Alain Robbe-Grillet]]
			*[[Tony Duvert]]
			*[[Norman Douglas]]
			*[[Johann Wolfgang von Goethe]]
			*[[Thomas Mann]]

	==References==		==References==

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	'''André Gide''' (1869 – 1951) was a famous French novelist who authored ''The Immoralist'', as well as an early defence of same-sex love and eroticism (including pederasty) in ''Corydon'', receiving the Nobel Prize in Literature.		'''André Gide''' (1869 – 1951) was a famous French novelist who authored ''The Immoralist'', as well as an early defence of same-sex love and eroticism (including pederasty) in ''Corydon'', receiving the Nobel Prize in Literature.

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	Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.		Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.

	[[Category:Official_Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: French]][[Category:People: Popular Authors]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Critical Analysts]][[Category: People: Historical minor-attracted figures]][[Category:History & Events]]		==References==

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	Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.		Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.

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'''André Gide''' (1869 – 1951) was a famous French novelist who authored ''The Immoralist'', as well as an early defence of same-sex love and eroticism (including pederasty) in ''Corydon'', receiving the Nobel Prize in Literature.

In his journal, Gide distinguishes between adult-attracted “sodomites” and boy-loving “pederasts”, categorizing himself as the latter (Gide, 1948)<ref>Gide A. (1948). O’Brien J., translator. The Journals Of André Gide, Vol II 1914-1927. Alfred A.Knopf. 246-247)pp.</ref>:

<blockquote>''I call a pederast the man who, as the word indicates, falls in love with young boys. I call a sodomite (“The word is sodomite, sir,” said Verlaine to the judge who asked him if it were true that he was a sodomist) the man whose desire is addressed to mature men. […]

The pederasts, of whom I am one (why cannot I say this quite simply, without your immediately claiming to see a brag in my confession?), are much rarer, and the sodomites much more numerous, than I first thought. […]

That such loves can spring up, that such relationships can be formed, it is not enough for me to say that this is natural; I maintain that it is good; each of the two finds exaltation, protection, a challenge in them; and I wonder whether it is for the youth or the elder man that they are more profitable.''</blockquote>

Gide was bisexual, although he preferred young males. His journal approvingly describes the bodies of a 12-year-old male and young female<ref>Gide (1948, p. 334).</ref>:

<blockquote>''Both at Saint-Martin and here I have seen, among the guests of the hotel, none but faces exuding stupidity, egotism, and vulgarity. (Except for a Greek boy of twelve with a marvelous face and body, wonderfully svelte; but excessively aware of his beauty and, consequently, quite stupid with self-satisfaction.) Yet at the next table to the one where I am writing, and turning her back to me, a girl, barely beyond childhood, with great elegance in her outlines, whom M. would like. I do not tire of looking at her; she notices this and, I believe, is amused by it. But already one can foresee just where her features are going to thicken and become heavy.''</blockquote>

In the company of Oscar Wilde, he had several sexual experiences with young boys abroad (Gide, 1935, p. 288):<ref>Gide A. (1935). Bussy D., translator. ''If It Die: An Autobiography''. New York: Random House.</ref>

<blockquote>''Wilde took a key out of his pocket and showed me into a tiny apartment of two rooms… The youths followed him, each of them wrapped in a burnous that hid his face. Then the guide left us and Wilde sent me into the further room with little Mohammed and shut himself up in the other with the [other boy]. Every time since then that I have sought after pleasure, it is the memory of that night I have pursued. […]

My joy was unbounded, and I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added. How should there have been any question of love? How should I have allowed desire to dispose of my heart? No scruple clouded my pleasure and no remorse followed it. But what name then am I to give the rapture I felt as I clasped in my naked arms that perfect little body, so wild, so ardent, so sombrely lascivious?

or a long time after Mohammed had left me, I remained in a state of passionate jubilation, and though I had already achieved pleasure five times with him, I renewed my ecstasy again and again, and when I got back to my room in the hotel, I prolonged its echoes until morning.''</blockquote>

Gide’s novel ''Corydon'', which he considered his most important work, erects a defense of pederasty.

[[Category:Official_Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: French]][[Category:People: Popular Authors]][[Category:People: Adult or Minor sexually attracted to or involved with the other]][[Category:People: Critical Analysts]]