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	''(b)'' “nude photography and appreciation of girls was common in Victoria England.”		''(b)'' “nude photography and appreciation of girls was common in Victoria England.”

	The problem with this argument is that Victorian culture eroticized sexual innocence in children.<ref>Kincaid J.R. (1994). ''Child-Loving: The Erotic Child and Victorian Culture''. Routledge.</ref> Some of the most prominent figures in the Victorian “cult of the child”, like [[John_Ruskin\|John Ruskin]] and [[Ernest Dowson]], did not even hide the romantic nature of their love. Why should we assume that Carroll’s love was chaste just because some contemporaries were equally blatant in their adulation of small girls? All it proves is that pedophiles of the era were free to express themselves through artistic sublimation, if not more: For most of Carroll’s lifetime, the ~~age-~~of~~-consent~~ was 12 or 13, a context in which “the pre-pubescent body of the 12-year-old girl was an entirely legitimate object of male sexual desire.”<ref>MacLeod K. (2008). “M. P. Shiel and the Love of Pubescent Girls: The Other ‘Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name’”, English Literature in Transition, 1880-1920, 51 (4): 355-380. Cited in our page on [[M._P._Shiel\|M. P. Shiel]].</ref> Finally, even during Carroll’s life, rumors circulated about his photography and some parents were suspicious of his requests for nudity (Cohen, 1979, pp. 337-343).		The problem with this argument is that Victorian culture eroticized sexual innocence in children.<ref>Kincaid J.R. (1994). ''Child-Loving: The Erotic Child and Victorian Culture''. Routledge.</ref> Some of the most prominent figures in the Victorian “cult of the child”, like [[John_Ruskin\|John Ruskin]] and [[Ernest Dowson]], did not even hide the romantic nature of their love. Why should we assume that Carroll’s love was chaste just because some contemporaries were equally blatant in their adulation of small girls? All it proves is that pedophiles of the era were free to express themselves through artistic sublimation, if not more: For most of Carroll’s lifetime, the [[Age of Consent]] was 12 or 13, a context in which “the pre-pubescent body of the 12-year-old girl was an entirely legitimate object of male sexual desire.”<ref>MacLeod K. (2008). “M. P. Shiel and the Love of Pubescent Girls: The Other ‘Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name’”, English Literature in Transition, 1880-1920, 51 (4): 355-380. Cited in our page on [[M._P._Shiel\|M. P. Shiel]].</ref> Finally, even during Carroll’s life, rumors circulated about his photography and some parents were suspicious of his requests for nudity (Cohen, 1979, pp. 337-343).

	==Works (online)==		==Works (online)==

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	A boat, beneath a sunny sky,		A boat, beneath a sunny sky,

	Lingering onward dreamily		Lingering onward dreamily

	In an evening of July -		In an evening of July -
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	Children three that nestle near,		Children three that nestle near,

	Eager eye and willing ear,		Eager eye and willing ear,

	Pleased a simple tale to hear -		Pleased a simple tale to hear -
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	Long has paled that sunny sky:		Long has paled that sunny sky:

	Echoes fade and memories die:		Echoes fade and memories die:

	Autumn frosts have slain July.		Autumn frosts have slain July.
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	Still she haunts me, phantomwise,		Still she haunts me, phantomwise,

	Alice moving under skies		Alice moving under skies

	Never seen by waking eyes.		Never seen by waking eyes.
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	Children yet, the tale to hear,		Children yet, the tale to hear,

	Eager eye and willing ear,		Eager eye and willing ear,

	Lovingly shall nestle near.		Lovingly shall nestle near.
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	In Wonderland they lie,		In Wonderland they lie,

	Dreaming as the days go by,		Dreaming as the days go by,

	Dreaming as the summers die:		Dreaming as the summers die:
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	Ever drifting down the stream -		Ever drifting down the stream -

	Lingering in the golden gleam -		Lingering in the golden gleam -

	Life, what is it but a dream?		Life, what is it but a dream?


			'''- Lewis Carroll, 1871'''
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	~~- Lewis Carroll, 1871~~

	==Lewis Carroll as a Minor Attracted Person (MAP)==		==Lewis Carroll as a Minor Attracted Person (MAP)==
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	Carroll was a prolific photographer of children, some of them nude. Carroll instructed that all of his nude photography be destroyed at his death. Only a few pictures survive, the most erotic being prepubescent Evelyn Hatch’s 29 July 1879 photo. (In 2015, it was reported<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11368772/BBC-investigates-whether-Lewis-Carroll-was-repressed-paedophile-after-nude-photo-discovery.html</ref> that a full frontal nude of Alice’s pubescent sister was discovered). Mavor (1996)<ref>Mavor C. (1996). ''Pleasures Taken: Performances of Sexuality and Loss in Victorian Photographs''. I.B.Tauris.</ref> explores the “obvious sexuality” of Carroll’s photographs from a feminist perspective. Carroll put considerable effort into convincing parents to allow nude photography of their daughters, but always ensured that all involved were comfortable with nudity; one of his letters reads (Cohen, 1979, p. 253-254):		Carroll was a prolific photographer of children, some of them nude. Carroll instructed that all of his nude photography be destroyed at his death. Only a few pictures survive, the most erotic being prepubescent Evelyn Hatch’s 29 July 1879 photo. (In 2015, it was reported<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11368772/BBC-investigates-whether-Lewis-Carroll-was-repressed-paedophile-after-nude-photo-discovery.html</ref> that a full frontal nude of Alice’s pubescent sister was discovered). Mavor (1996)<ref>Mavor C. (1996). ''Pleasures Taken: Performances of Sexuality and Loss in Victorian Photographs''. I.B.Tauris.</ref> explores the “obvious sexuality” of Carroll’s photographs from a feminist perspective. Carroll put considerable effort into convincing parents to allow nude photography of their daughters, but always ensured that all involved were comfortable with nudity; one of his letters reads (Cohen, 1979, p. 253-254):

	<blockquote>''If you should decide on sending over Gertrude and not coming yourself, would you kindly let me know what is the minimum amount of dress in which you are willing to have her taken? With that information, will then be guided by her likings in the matter: children differ very much — with some that I know (Londoners chiefly) I would not venture to propose even taking off their shoes: but with a child like your Gertrude, as simple-minded as Eve in the garden of Eden, I should see no objection (provided she liked it herself) to photographing her in Eve’s original dress. And I think, if you were here and could see the photographs I have done of children in that primitive costume, that you would agree that it is quite possible to make such a picture that you might frame it and hang it up in your drawing-room.		<blockquote>''If you should decide on sending over Gertrude and not coming yourself, would you kindly let me know what is the minimum amount of dress in which you are willing to have her taken? With that information, will then be guided by her likings in the matter: children differ very much — with some that I know (Londoners chiefly) I would not venture to propose even taking off their shoes: but with a child like your Gertrude, as simple-minded as Eve in the garden of Eden, I should see no objection (provided she liked it herself) to photographing her in Eve’s original dress. And I think, if you were here and could see the photographs I have done of children in that primitive costume, that you would agree that it is quite possible to make such a picture that you might frame it and hang it up in your drawing-room.''

	But, much as I should myself like to have such a picture of her, if you at all object, or if she has changed her mind since I saw her (she was quite willing to be taken so, last September), of course I give it up, though I do not, once in a hundred cases, get so well-formed a subject for art.''</blockquote>		''But, much as I should myself like to have such a picture of her, if you at all object, or if she has changed her mind since I saw her (she was quite willing to be taken so, last September), of course I give it up, though I do not, once in a hundred cases, get so well-formed a subject for art.''</blockquote>

	Some scholars have attempted to deny Carroll’s pedophilia on the specious grounds that:		Some scholars have attempted to deny Carroll’s pedophilia on the specious grounds that:
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	The problem with this argument is that Victorian culture eroticized sexual innocence in children.<ref>Kincaid J.R. (1994). ''Child-Loving: The Erotic Child and Victorian Culture''. Routledge.</ref> Some of the most prominent figures in the Victorian “cult of the child”, like [[John_Ruskin\|John Ruskin]] and [[Ernest Dowson]], did not even hide the romantic nature of their love. Why should we assume that Carroll’s love was chaste just because some contemporaries were equally blatant in their adulation of small girls? All it proves is that pedophiles of the era were free to express themselves through artistic sublimation, if not more: For most of Carroll’s lifetime, the age-of-consent was 12 or 13, a context in which “the pre-pubescent body of the 12-year-old girl was an entirely legitimate object of male sexual desire.”<ref>MacLeod K. (2008). “M. P. Shiel and the Love of Pubescent Girls: The Other ‘Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name’”, English Literature in Transition, 1880-1920, 51 (4): 355-380. Cited in our page on [[M._P._Shiel\|M. P. Shiel]].</ref> Finally, even during Carroll’s life, rumors circulated about his photography and some parents were suspicious of his requests for nudity (Cohen, 1979, pp. 337-343).		The problem with this argument is that Victorian culture eroticized sexual innocence in children.<ref>Kincaid J.R. (1994). ''Child-Loving: The Erotic Child and Victorian Culture''. Routledge.</ref> Some of the most prominent figures in the Victorian “cult of the child”, like [[John_Ruskin\|John Ruskin]] and [[Ernest Dowson]], did not even hide the romantic nature of their love. Why should we assume that Carroll’s love was chaste just because some contemporaries were equally blatant in their adulation of small girls? All it proves is that pedophiles of the era were free to express themselves through artistic sublimation, if not more: For most of Carroll’s lifetime, the age-of-consent was 12 or 13, a context in which “the pre-pubescent body of the 12-year-old girl was an entirely legitimate object of male sexual desire.”<ref>MacLeod K. (2008). “M. P. Shiel and the Love of Pubescent Girls: The Other ‘Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name’”, English Literature in Transition, 1880-1920, 51 (4): 355-380. Cited in our page on [[M._P._Shiel\|M. P. Shiel]].</ref> Finally, even during Carroll’s life, rumors circulated about his photography and some parents were suspicious of his requests for nudity (Cohen, 1979, pp. 337-343).

	==Works (~~Online~~)==		==Works (online)==

	* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland Alice's Adventures in Wonderland]		* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland Alice's Adventures in Wonderland]
	* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass_%28And_What_Alice_Found_There%29 Through the Looking Glass And What Alice Found There]		* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass_%28And_What_Alice_Found_There%29 Through the Looking Glass And What Alice Found There]

	==External ~~Links~~==		==External links==

	* [http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue06/arts.lcarroll.html The Man Who Loved Little Girls]		* [http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue06/arts.lcarroll.html The Man Who Loved Little Girls]
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	==See also==		==See also==

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	*[[Oscar Wilde]]		*[[Oscar Wilde]]
	*[[Lord Alfred Douglas]]		*[[Lord Alfred Douglas]]
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	*[[M. P. Shiel]]		*[[M. P. Shiel]]
	*[[Mark Twain]]		*[[Mark Twain]]
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			==References==

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			==Lewis Carroll as a Minor Attracted Person (MAP)==

			The Sexologist Erwin J. Haeberle gives Lewis Carroll as an example of a celibate pedophile which contemporary MAPs (pedophilic, hebephilic, etc.) could emulate.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/15rr Sexologist Erwin J. Haeberle - Approach Pedophilia with Caution (Freespeechtube video)]</ref>
			Carroll loved to be in the company of children, and he devised ''Alice in Wonderland'' to entertain Alice (10), Lorina (13) and Edith (8) Liddell on a boating trip, wrote it down at Alice’s request, and presented the first manuscript to her less than two years later. Carroll’s attraction to females before puberty is established in a number of biographies, especially Cohen (1996).<ref>Cohen M.N. (1996). ''Lewis Carroll: A Biography''. Vintage.</ref>

			Carroll had hundreds of little girl friends throughout his life — he once remarked “children are three-fourths of my life.” Among them, Alice was the most important. In his diary, Carroll marked “special day[s] which had given him great pleasure” with a metaphorical white stone. Carroll marked all but one of the days he met Alice with a white stone.<ref>Dick K. (1954). “[http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/10th-december-1954/29/the-case-of-lewis-carroll The Case of Lewis Carroll]“, ''The Spectator'', 10 December, p. 29.</ref> However, in 1863, when Alice was eleven, something occurred that caused a rift between Carroll and the Liddell family. Several pages in his diary, likely detailing these events, were cut out. Carroll would later be informed by Ms. Liddell that he was no longer allowed to take her daughters rowing, and Ms. Liddell destroyed all of his letters to Alice. Cohen argues that the rift was caused by a failed marriage proposal to Alice (Cohen, 1996, p. 101):

			<blockquote>''The fact that Alice is Charles’ “ideal child friend”, that she sparked his creative energy, that he devoted so much of his time to her and fashioned his two remarkable fantasies with her as heroine is proof enough of a deep attachment, certain affection, even a kind of love. That he might desire a holy union with her is understandable.''</blockquote>

			Two contemporaries of Carroll are quoted to support this. The first is Margaret Woods, who claimed that “when the Alice of his tale had grown into a lovely girl, he asked, in old-world fashion, her father’s permission to pay his addresses to her.” The second is Lord Salisbury, an “archenemy of gossip” who Cohen considers particularly reliable; he reported “they say that Dodgson has half gone out of his mind in consequence of having been refused by the real Alice (Liddell). It looks like it.” (Cohen, 1996, p. 100-101). Cohen also points to an 1866 diary entry:

			<blockquote>''On Saturday Uncle Skeffington dined with me, and on Sunday I dined with him at the Randolph, and on each occasion we had a good deal of conversation about Wilfred, and about A. L. — it is a very anxious subject.''</blockquote>

			At the time, Carroll’s brother Wilfred had fallen in love with 14-year-old Alice Jane Donkin. Cohen believes that Carroll is here comparing the experience of Wilfred to his own with A. L. — Alice Liddell (Cohen, 1996, p. 101). Lorina Liddell commented on the rift in a 1930 letter to Alice, after being interviewed by a biographer:

			<blockquote>''I suppose you don’t remember when Mr. Dodgson ceased coming to the Deanery? How old were you? I said his manner became too affectionate to you as you grew older and that mother spoke to him about it, and that offended him so he ceased coming to visit us again, as one had to give some reason for all intercourse ceasing. I don’t think you could have been more than 9 or 10 on account of my age! I must put it a bit differently for Mrs. B’s book. I had no idea my words were to be taken down! Mr. Dodgson used to take you on his knee. I know I did not say that! Horrible being interviewed if your words are taken down.''</blockquote>

			Lastly, when Carroll asked to meet the youngest daughters of Mrs. Liddell in 1891, he made this telling comment (Cohen, 1996, p. 101): “I am close on 60 years now, and all romantic sentiment has quite died out of my life: so I have become quite hardened to having lady-visitors of ''any'' age!” That suggests, of course, that Mrs. Liddell had reason to worry about his romantic sentiments.

			Carroll’s diaries record that he was tormented by unwanted thoughts. He wrote his book of puzzles ''Pillow Problems'' to distract the reader from “unholy thoughts, which torture, with their hateful presence, the fancy that would fain be pure.” Cohen argues that these unwanted thoughts were about children because the feverish appeals to God for help in his diaries cluster around his visits with the Liddells (Cohen, 1996, p. 207-210).

			Carroll was a prolific photographer of children, some of them nude. Carroll instructed that all of his nude photography be destroyed at his death. Only a few pictures survive, the most erotic being prepubescent Evelyn Hatch’s 29 July 1879 photo. (In 2015, it was reported<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/bbc/11368772/BBC-investigates-whether-Lewis-Carroll-was-repressed-paedophile-after-nude-photo-discovery.html</ref> that a full frontal nude of Alice’s pubescent sister was discovered). Mavor (1996)<ref>Mavor C. (1996). ''Pleasures Taken: Performances of Sexuality and Loss in Victorian Photographs''. I.B.Tauris.</ref> explores the “obvious sexuality” of Carroll’s photographs from a feminist perspective. Carroll put considerable effort into convincing parents to allow nude photography of their daughters, but always ensured that all involved were comfortable with nudity; one of his letters reads (Cohen, 1979, p. 253-254):

			<blockquote>''If you should decide on sending over Gertrude and not coming yourself, would you kindly let me know what is the minimum amount of dress in which you are willing to have her taken? With that information, will then be guided by her likings in the matter: children differ very much — with some that I know (Londoners chiefly) I would not venture to propose even taking off their shoes: but with a child like your Gertrude, as simple-minded as Eve in the garden of Eden, I should see no objection (provided she liked it herself) to photographing her in Eve’s original dress. And I think, if you were here and could see the photographs I have done of children in that primitive costume, that you would agree that it is quite possible to make such a picture that you might frame it and hang it up in your drawing-room.

			But, much as I should myself like to have such a picture of her, if you at all object, or if she has changed her mind since I saw her (she was quite willing to be taken so, last September), of course I give it up, though I do not, once in a hundred cases, get so well-formed a subject for art.''</blockquote>

			Some scholars have attempted to deny Carroll’s pedophilia on the specious grounds that:

			''(a)'' “Carroll had some attraction to adult women.” Exclusive attraction to children is rare among pedophiles; his passion was still for little girls, and he met his most important adult friends when they were children. And,

			''(b)'' “nude photography and appreciation of girls was common in Victoria England.”

			The problem with this argument is that Victorian culture eroticized sexual innocence in children.<ref>Kincaid J.R. (1994). ''Child-Loving: The Erotic Child and Victorian Culture''. Routledge.</ref> Some of the most prominent figures in the Victorian “cult of the child”, like [[John_Ruskin\|John Ruskin]] and [[Ernest Dowson]], did not even hide the romantic nature of their love. Why should we assume that Carroll’s love was chaste just because some contemporaries were equally blatant in their adulation of small girls? All it proves is that pedophiles of the era were free to express themselves through artistic sublimation, if not more: For most of Carroll’s lifetime, the age-of-consent was 12 or 13, a context in which “the pre-pubescent body of the 12-year-old girl was an entirely legitimate object of male sexual desire.”<ref>MacLeod K. (2008). “M. P. Shiel and the Love of Pubescent Girls: The Other ‘Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name’”, English Literature in Transition, 1880-1920, 51 (4): 355-380. Cited in our page on [[M._P._Shiel\|M. P. Shiel]].</ref> Finally, even during Carroll’s life, rumors circulated about his photography and some parents were suspicious of his requests for nudity (Cohen, 1979, pp. 337-343).

	==Works (Online)==		==Works (Online)==

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	'''Charles Lutwidge Dodgson''', known by his pen name, '''Lewis Carroll''', was a man of diverse interests - in mathematics, logic, photography, art, ~~theater~~, religion, medicine, and science. He was happiest in the company of children, more specifically girls, for whom he created puzzles, clever games, and charming letters. As all Carroll admirers know, his book "''Alice's Adventures in Wonderland''" (1865), became an immediate success and has since been translated into more than eighty languages. The equally popular sequel "''Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There''", was published in 1872.		[[Image:CharlesDodgson.jpg\|thumb\|Charles Dodgson]]<div style="margin-right: 25px; float: left;">__TOC__</div>'''Charles Lutwidge Dodgson''', known by his pen name, '''Lewis Carroll''', was a man of diverse interests - in mathematics, logic, photography, art, theatre, religion, medicine, and science. He was happiest in the company of children, more specifically girls, for whom he created puzzles, clever games, and charming letters. As all Carroll admirers know, his book "''Alice's Adventures in Wonderland''" (1865), became an immediate success and has since been translated into more than eighty languages. The equally popular sequel "''Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There''", was published in 1872.

	The "Alice" books are but one example of his wide ranging authorship. "The Hunting of the Snark", a classic nonsense epic (1876) and "Euclid and His Modern Rivals", a rare example of humorous work concerning mathematics, still entice and intrigue today's students. "Sylvie and Bruno", published toward the end of his life contains startling ideas including an 1889 description of weightlessness.		The "Alice" books are but one example of his wide ranging authorship. "The Hunting of the Snark", a classic nonsense epic (1876) and "Euclid and His Modern Rivals", a rare example of humorous work concerning mathematics, still entice and intrigue today's students. "Sylvie and Bruno", published toward the end of his life contains startling ideas including an 1889 description of weightlessness.
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	The ruin of Godstow Nunnery. In the same year, a new Dean, Henry Liddell, arrived at Christ Church, bringing with him a young wife and children, all of whom would figure largely in Dodgson's life over the following years. He became close friends with the mother and the children, particularly the three sisters Ina, Alice and Edith. It seems there became something of a tradition of his taking the girls out on the river for picnics at Godstow or Nuneham.		The ruin of Godstow Nunnery. In the same year, a new Dean, Henry Liddell, arrived at Christ Church, bringing with him a young wife and children, all of whom would figure largely in Dodgson's life over the following years. He became close friends with the mother and the children, particularly the three sisters Ina, Alice and Edith. It seems there became something of a tradition of his taking the girls out on the river for picnics at Godstow or Nuneham.

	It was on one such expedition, in 1862, that Dodgson invented the outline of the story that eventually became his first and largest commercial success, the first Alice book. Having told the story and been begged by Alice Liddell to write it down, Dodgson was evidently struck by its potential to sell well. He took the manuscript, at this stage titled Alice's Adventures Under Ground, to Macmillan the publisher, who liked it immediately. After the possible alternative titles Alice Among the Fairies and Alice's Golden Hour were rejected, the work was finally published as Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in 1865 under the Lewis Carroll pen-name Dodgson had first used some nine years earlier.		It was on one such expedition, in 1862, that Dodgson invented the outline of the story that eventually became his first and largest commercial success, the first Alice book. Having told the story and been begged by [[Alice Liddell]] to write it down, Dodgson was evidently struck by its potential to sell well. He took the manuscript, at this stage titled Alice's Adventures Under Ground, to Macmillan the publisher, who liked it immediately. After the possible alternative titles Alice Among the Fairies and Alice's Golden Hour were rejected, the work was finally published as Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in 1865 under the Lewis Carroll pen-name Dodgson had first used some nine years earlier.

	With the immediate, phenomenal success of Alice, the story of the author's life becomes effectively divided in two: the continuing story of Dodgson's real life and the evolving myth surrounding "Lewis Carroll." Carroll quickly became a rich and detailed alter ego, a persona as famous and deeply embedded in the popular psyche as the story he told. To him belongs a large part of the image of little girls and strange otherworldliness that we know from the author of Alice.		With the immediate, phenomenal success of Alice, the story of the author's life becomes effectively divided in two: the continuing story of Dodgson's real life and the evolving myth surrounding "Lewis Carroll." Carroll quickly became a rich and detailed alter ego, a persona as famous and deeply embedded in the popular psyche as the story he told. To him belongs a large part of the image of little girls and strange otherworldliness that we know from the author of Alice.

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	==Alice Under Skies==		==Alice Under Skies==

	As an epilogue to Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll included a nostalgic poem recounting his memories of the boat trips he had taken with the Liddell sisters during which he had first told the fantastic tales he later wrote down in book form. The poem forms an acrostic of ~~Aliceâ€™s~~ name and expresses the depth of his feelings for Alice, who haunts him even in his sleep.		As an epilogue to Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll included a nostalgic poem recounting his memories of the boat trips he had taken with the Liddell sisters during which he had first told the fantastic tales he later wrote down in book form. The poem forms an acrostic of Alice's name and expresses the depth of his feelings for Alice, who haunts him even in his sleep.

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	==Works (Online)==		==Works (Online)==

	* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland Alice's Adventures in Wonderland] ~~(http://wikisource.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland)~~		* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland Alice's Adventures in Wonderland]
	* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass_%28And_What_Alice_Found_There%29 Through the Looking Glass And What Alice Found There] ~~(http://wikisource.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass_%28And_What_Alice_Found_There%29)~~		* [http://wikisource.org/wiki/Through_the_Looking_Glass_%28And_What_Alice_Found_There%29 Through the Looking Glass And What Alice Found There]

	==External Links==		==External Links==

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	The ruin of Godstow Nunnery. In the same year, a new Dean, Henry Liddell, arrived at Christ Church, bringing with him a young wife and children, all of whom would figure largely in Dodgson's life over the following years. He became close friends with the mother and the children, particularly the three sisters Ina, Alice and Edith. It seems there became something of a tradition of his taking the girls out on the river for picnics at Godstow or Nuneham.		The ruin of Godstow Nunnery. In the same year, a new Dean, Henry Liddell, arrived at Christ Church, bringing with him a young wife and children, all of whom would figure largely in Dodgson's life over the following years. He became close friends with the mother and the children, particularly the three sisters Ina, Alice and Edith. It seems there became something of a tradition of his taking the girls out on the river for picnics at Godstow or Nuneham.

	It was on one such expedition, in 1862, that Dodgson invented the outline of the story that eventually became his first and largest commercial success ~~â€”~~ the first Alice book. Having told the story and been begged by Alice Liddell to write it down, Dodgson was evidently struck by its potential to sell well. He took the manuscript ~~â€”~~ at this stage titled Alice's Adventures Under Ground ~~â€”~~ to Macmillan the publisher, who liked it immediately. After the possible alternative titles Alice Among the Fairies and Alice's Golden Hour were rejected, the work was finally published as Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in 1865 under the Lewis Carroll pen-name Dodgson had first used some nine years earlier.		It was on one such expedition, in 1862, that Dodgson invented the outline of the story that eventually became his first and largest commercial success, the first Alice book. Having told the story and been begged by Alice Liddell to write it down, Dodgson was evidently struck by its potential to sell well. He took the manuscript, at this stage titled Alice's Adventures Under Ground, to Macmillan the publisher, who liked it immediately. After the possible alternative titles Alice Among the Fairies and Alice's Golden Hour were rejected, the work was finally published as Alice's Adventures in Wonderland in 1865 under the Lewis Carroll pen-name Dodgson had first used some nine years earlier.

	With the immediate, phenomenal success of Alice, the story of the author's life becomes effectively divided in two: the continuing story of Dodgson's real life and the evolving myth surrounding "Lewis Carroll." Carroll quickly became a rich and detailed alter ego, a persona as famous and deeply embedded in the popular psyche as the story he told. To him belongs a large part of the image of little girls and strange otherworldliness that we know from the author of Alice.		With the immediate, phenomenal success of Alice, the story of the author's life becomes effectively divided in two: the continuing story of Dodgson's real life and the evolving myth surrounding "Lewis Carroll." Carroll quickly became a rich and detailed alter ego, a persona as famous and deeply embedded in the popular psyche as the story he told. To him belongs a large part of the image of little girls and strange otherworldliness that we know from the author of Alice.

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	He also found photography to be a useful entrée into higher social circles. Once he had a studio of his own, he made portraits of notable sitters such as John Everett Millais, Ellen Terry, Dante Gabriel Rossetti, Julia Margaret Cameron and Alfred, Lord Tennyson. He also made some landscapes and anatomy studies.		He also found photography to be a useful entrée into higher social circles. Once he had a studio of his own, he made portraits of notable sitters such as John Everett Millais, Ellen Terry, Dante Gabriel Rossetti, Julia Margaret Cameron and Alfred, Lord Tennyson. He also made some landscapes and anatomy studies.

	Dodgson abruptly ceased to photograph in 1880. Over 24 years he had completely mastered the medium, set up his own studio at the top of Tom Quad, and created around 3,000 images. Less than 1000 have survived time and deliberate destruction. He spent several hours each day creating a diary detailing the circumstances surrounding the making of each photograph, but this register was later destroyed.		Dodgson abruptly ceased to photograph in 1880. Over 24 years he had completely mastered the medium, set up his own studio at the top of Tom Quad in Christ Church College, Oxford and created around 3,000 images. Less than 1000 have survived time and deliberate destruction. He spent several hours each day creating a diary detailing the circumstances surrounding the making of each photograph, but this register was later destroyed.

	With the advent of Modernism tastes changed, and his photography became forgotten from around 1920 until the 1960s. He is now considered one of the very best Victorian photographers, and is certainly the one who has had the most influence on modern art photographers.		With the advent of Modernism tastes changed, and his photography became forgotten from around 1920 until the 1960s. He is now considered one of the very best Victorian photographers, and is certainly the one who has had the most influence on modern art photographers.