Chris Brand - Revision history

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	*[[Allyn Walker]]		*[[Allyn Walker]]
	*[[Stephen Kershnar]]		*[[Stephen Kershnar]]
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	*[[Karl Andersson]]		*[[Karl Andersson]]
	*[[Leonardo Arce Vidal]]		*[[Leonardo Arce Vidal]]
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			*[[Leonardo Arce Vidal]]

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	~~__NOTOC__The~~ late, and broadly heterodox British psychologist, '''[[Wikipedia:Chris Brand\|Chris Brand]]''' (1 June 1943 – 28 May 2017) supported the Rind Report and other literature that might be seen as having subverted popular absolutes of child sexuality.		__NOTOC__
			[[File:Brand.jpg\|thumb\|Chris Brand]]
			The late, and broadly heterodox British psychologist, '''[[Wikipedia:Chris Brand\|Chris Brand]]''' (1 June 1943 – 28 May 2017) supported the Rind Report and other literature that might be seen as having subverted popular absolutes of child sexuality.

	==Controversy==		==Controversy==

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	__NOTOC__The late, and ~~overtly UN-PC, formerly employed~~ British psychologist, '''[[Wikipedia:Chris Brand\|Chris Brand]]''' (1 June 1943 – 28 May 2017) supported the Rind Report and other literature that might be seen as having subverted popular absolutes of child sexuality.		__NOTOC__The late, and broadly heterodox British psychologist, '''[[Wikipedia:Chris Brand\|Chris Brand]]''' (1 June 1943 – 28 May 2017) supported the Rind Report and other literature that might be seen as having subverted popular absolutes of child sexuality.

	==Controversy==		==Controversy==

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-The late, and overtly UN-PC, formerly employed psychologist, '''[[Wikipedia:Chris Brand|Chris Brand]]''' supported the Rind Report and other literature that might be seen as having subverted popular absolutes of child sexuality:
+__NOTOC__The late, and overtly UN-PC, formerly employed British psychologist, '''[[Wikipedia:Chris Brand|Chris Brand]]''' (1 June 1943 – 28 May 2017) supported the Rind Report and other literature that might be seen as having subverted popular absolutes of child sexuality.
 On his personal website, Chris Brand archived the following<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090505025933/http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ Example of Brand's website archived before his death]</ref><ref>[http://www.cycad.com/site/Brand/paedo.html Archive of statements by Chris Brand]</ref>:
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 ''It is true that I am not an unequivocal democrat. -- Democracy needs circumscribing with respect for intelligence, otherwise it will not last long. On that 'democratic elitist' basis, I offer Daniel Gajdusek my support in his struggles. (I hope US supporters might kindly keep me in touch with this case.)''</blockquote>
 ==References==
 [[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]

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	On his personal website, Chris Brand archived the following<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090505025933/http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ Example of Brand's website archived before his death]</ref><ref>[http://www.cycad.com/site/Brand/paedo.html Archive of statements by Chris Brand]</ref>:		On his personal website, Chris Brand archived the following<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090505025933/http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ Example of Brand's website archived before his death]</ref><ref>[http://www.cycad.com/site/Brand/paedo.html Archive of statements by Chris Brand]</ref>:

	<blockquote>OK, I am a race-realist and a sex-realist. But am I also a gay- and paedophilia-realist? (Now that gay 'rights' have been widely ackowledged in the West, paedophilia has manifestly become the next 'frontier.') Whether to accept some forms of paedophilia is now a particularly acute question because of the opening (on October 8) of the trial in Maryland of a 73-year-old Nobel Prizewinner, Daniel Gajdusek. In the course of DG's many researches in New Guinea--cracking 'kuru', a strange 'slow virus' form of central nervous system infection--DG's diaries show he plainly loved for a time at least twelve Melanesian and Micronesian boys and brought them to the USA as his adoptive sons. (I do not know whether an adoptive mother was also provided.) Whatever complaints may be arising today, the boys seem to have had a great time in general. For example eight of them turned up and posed cheerily with their sleeping bags for photographers at the Nobel award ceremony in Stockholm (in 1976, when DG was 53).		<blockquote>''OK, I am a race-realist and a sex-realist. But am I also a gay- and paedophilia-realist? (Now that gay 'rights' have been widely ackowledged in the West, paedophilia has manifestly become the next 'frontier.') Whether to accept some forms of paedophilia is now a particularly acute question because of the opening (on October 8) of the trial in Maryland of a 73-year-old Nobel Prizewinner, Daniel Gajdusek. In the course of DG's many researches in New Guinea--cracking 'kuru', a strange 'slow virus' form of central nervous system infection--DG's diaries show he plainly loved for a time at least twelve Melanesian and Micronesian boys and brought them to the USA as his adoptive sons. (I do not know whether an adoptive mother was also provided.) Whatever complaints may be arising today, the boys seem to have had a great time in general. For example eight of them turned up and posed cheerily with their sleeping bags for photographers at the Nobel award ceremony in Stockholm (in 1976, when DG was 53).
			''
			''I offer the following reflections on whether DG should be prosecuted.''

	I ~~offer~~ the ~~following reflections on whether DG should be prosecuted~~.		''It seems incredible that a court should be concerning itself with events of some twenty or thirty years ago that apparently yielded no complaint at the time.
			''
			''From cases of paedophilia I have known, I would incline to guess that the trial has come about primarily because of the jealousy of one of the young partners. What often happens is that the paedophile wants (among other things) to 'liberate' a partner after a few years so the youngster can go off and have girlfriends and develop normally; but then this rejected partner shops the paedophile when he takes up with a younger partner.''

	~~It seems incredible~~ that a ~~court should be concerning itself with events~~ of ~~some twenty~~ or ~~thirty years ago~~ that ~~apparently yielded no complaint at the time~~.		''Academic studies and my own experience suggest that non-violent paedophilia with a consenting partner over age 12 does no harm so long as the paedophiles and their partners are of above-average IQ and educational level. As lead choirboy (Decani) and soloist, I met lots of paedophiles who would press florins and half-crowns (now worth 4 pounds) into my horrid little palm at age 13. For better or worse, I never 'fancied' any of them nor did anything but allow a little fondling: on my part it was not a sexual experience. But I was never feminazistically inclined to condemn them: these men were well above average in intelligence, well educated (two were writers), amused me far more than the average geography teachers, gave me useful tips (where to find the G spot etc....) and never frightened me in the least. Indeed the only problem with them was that they they were so awfully old and sweaty and heavy-breathing and desperate-for-whatever-it-was-they-did [I tried not to look] that I much preferred their jokes to their visual aids.''

	~~From cases of paedophilia~~ I ~~have known, I would incline to guess~~ that ~~the trial has come about primarily because~~ of the ~~jealousy of one of~~ the ~~young partners~~. ~~What often happens is that the paedophile wants~~ (~~among other things) to~~ '~~liberate' a partner after a few years so the youngster can go off and have girlfriends~~ and ~~develop normally; but then this rejected partner shops~~ the ~~paedophile when he takes up with a younger partner~~.		''I find it totally disgraceful that a 73-year-old man of such distinction should be hounded by the courts and the press. I could certainly never do such work myself. (Though no special admirer of Britain's current Royals, I similarly deplored Princess Anne being arrested and summonsed for speeding in the 1970's.)''

	Academic studies and my own experience suggest that non-violent paedophilia with a consenting partner over age 12 does no harm so long as the paedophiles and their partners are of above-average IQ and educational level. As lead choirboy (Decani) and soloist, I met lots of paedophiles who would press florins and half-crowns (now worth 4 pounds) into my horrid little palm at age 13. For better or worse, I never 'fancied' any of them nor did anything but allow a little fondling: on my part it was not a sexual experience. But I was never feminazistically inclined to condemn them: these men were well above average in intelligence, well educated (two were writers), amused me far more than the average geography teachers, gave me useful tips (where to find the G spot etc....) and never frightened me in the least. Indeed the only problem with them was that they they were so awfully old and sweaty and heavy-breathing and desperate-for-whatever-it-was-they-did [I tried not to look] that I much preferred their jokes to their visual aids.		''It is true that I am not an unequivocal democrat. -- Democracy needs circumscribing with respect for intelligence, otherwise it will not last long. On that 'democratic elitist' basis, I offer Daniel Gajdusek my support in his struggles. (I hope US supporters might kindly keep me in touch with this case.)''</blockquote>

	I find it totally disgraceful that a 73-year-old man of such distinction should be hounded by the courts and the press. I could certainly never do such work myself. (Though no special admirer of Britain'~~s current Royals, I similarly deplored Princess Anne being arrested and summonsed for speeding in the 1970~~'~~s.)~~

	It is true that I am not an unequivocal democrat. -- Democracy needs circumscribing with respect for intelligence, otherwise it will not last long. On that 'democratic elitist' basis, I offer Daniel Gajdusek my support in his struggles. (I hope US supporters might kindly keep me in touch with this case.)</blockquote>

	==References==		==References==

	[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]		[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]

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	It is true that I am not an unequivocal democrat. -- Democracy needs circumscribing with respect for intelligence, otherwise it will not last long. On that 'democratic elitist' basis, I offer Daniel Gajdusek my support in his struggles. (I hope US supporters might kindly keep me in touch with this case.)</blockquote>		It is true that I am not an unequivocal democrat. -- Democracy needs circumscribing with respect for intelligence, otherwise it will not last long. On that 'democratic elitist' basis, I offer Daniel Gajdusek my support in his struggles. (I hope US supporters might kindly keep me in touch with this case.)</blockquote>

			==References==

	[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]		[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]

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	~~As can be seen~~, ~~this~~ overtly UN-PC, formerly employed psychologist, '''Chris Brand''' ~~supports~~ the Rind Report and ~~any~~ other literature that ~~may~~ be seen as ~~subverting~~ popular absolutes of child sexuality:		The late, and overtly UN-PC, formerly employed psychologist, '''[[Wikipedia:Chris Brand\|Chris Brand]]''' supported the Rind Report and other literature that might be seen as having subverted popular absolutes of child sexuality:

	[http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ ~~See "3" about half way down~~]. ~~'''[This link is now dead~~]~~'''~~		On his personal website, Chris Brand archived the following<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090505025933/http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ Example of Brand's website archived before his death]</ref><ref>[http://www.cycad.com/site/Brand/paedo.html Archive of statements by Chris Brand]</ref>:

	On his ~~personal website~~, ~~Chris Brand archived~~ the ~~following:~~		<blockquote>OK, I am a race-realist and a sex-realist. But am I also a gay- and paedophilia-realist? (Now that gay 'rights' have been widely ackowledged in the West, paedophilia has manifestly become the next 'frontier.') Whether to accept some forms of paedophilia is now a particularly acute question because of the opening (on October 8) of the trial in Maryland of a 73-year-old Nobel Prizewinner, Daniel Gajdusek. In the course of DG's many researches in New Guinea--cracking 'kuru', a strange 'slow virus' form of central nervous system infection--DG's diaries show he plainly loved for a time at least twelve Melanesian and Micronesian boys and brought them to the USA as his adoptive sons. (I do not know whether an adoptive mother was also provided.) Whatever complaints may be arising today, the boys seem to have had a great time in general. For example eight of them turned up and posed cheerily with their sleeping bags for photographers at the Nobel award ceremony in Stockholm (in 1976, when DG was 53).

	~~OK,~~ I am a race-realist and a sex-realist. But am I also a gay- and paedophilia-realist? (Now that gay 'rights' have been widely ackowledged in the West, paedophilia has manifestly become the next 'frontier.') Whether to accept some forms of paedophilia is now a particularly acute question because of the ~~opening (~~on ~~October 8) of the trial in Maryland of a 73-year-old Nobel Prizewinner, Daniel Gajdusek. In the course of~~ DG's many researches in New Guinea--cracking 'kuru', a strange 'slow virus' form of central nervous system infection--DG's diaries show he plainly loved for a time at least twelve Melanesian and Micronesian boys and brought them to the USA as his adoptive sons. (I do not know whether an adoptive mother was also provided.) Whatever complaints may be arising today, the boys seem to have had a great time in general. For example eight of them turned up and posed cheerily with their sleeping bags for photographers at the Nobel award ceremony in Stockholm (in 1976, when DG was 53).		I offer the following reflections on whether DG should be prosecuted.

	~~I offer the following reflections on whether DG~~ should be ~~prosecuted~~.		It seems incredible that a court should be concerning itself with events of some twenty or thirty years ago that apparently yielded no complaint at the time.

	~~It seems incredible that a court should be concerning itself with events of some twenty or thirty years ago that apparently yielded no complaint at the time.~~		From cases of paedophilia I have known, I would incline to guess that the trial has come about primarily because of the jealousy of one of the young partners. What often happens is that the paedophile wants (among other things) to 'liberate' a partner after a few years so the youngster can go off and have girlfriends and develop normally; but then this rejected partner shops the paedophile when he takes up with a younger partner.
	From cases of paedophilia I have known, I would incline to guess that the trial has come about primarily because of the jealousy of one of the young partners. What often happens is that the paedophile wants (among other things) to 'liberate' a partner after a few years so the youngster can go off and have girlfriends and develop normally; but then this rejected partner shops the paedophile when he takes up with a younger partner.
	Academic studies and my own experience suggest that non-violent paedophilia with a consenting partner over age 12 does no harm so long as the paedophiles and their partners are of above-average IQ and educational level. As lead choirboy (Decani) and soloist, I met lots of paedophiles who would press florins and half-crowns (now worth 4 pounds) into my horrid little palm at age 13. For better or worse, I never 'fancied' any of them nor did anything but allow a little fondling: on my part it was not a sexual experience. But I was never feminazistically inclined to condemn them: these men were well above average in intelligence, well educated (two were writers), amused me far more than the average geography teachers, gave me useful tips (where to find the G spot etc....) and never frightened me in the least. Indeed the only problem with them was that they they were so awfully old and sweaty and heavy-breathing and desperate-for-whatever-it-was-they-did [I tried not to look] that I much preferred their jokes to their visual aids.
	I find it totally disgraceful that a 73-year-old man of such distinction should be hounded by the courts and the press. I could certainly never do such work myself. (Though no special admirer of Britain's current Royals, I similarly deplored Princess Anne being arrested and summonsed for speeding in the 1970's.)

	~~It is true~~ that I ~~am not an unequivocal democrat~~. ~~-- Democracy needs circumscribing with respect for intelligence~~, ~~otherwise~~ it ~~will~~ not ~~last long~~. ~~On that 'democratic elitist' basis,~~ I ~~offer Daniel Gajdusek my support~~ in ~~his struggles~~. ~~(I hope US supporters might kindly keep~~ me in ~~touch~~ with ~~this case~~.)		Academic studies and my own experience suggest that non-violent paedophilia with a consenting partner over age 12 does no harm so long as the paedophiles and their partners are of above-average IQ and educational level. As lead choirboy (Decani) and soloist, I met lots of paedophiles who would press florins and half-crowns (now worth 4 pounds) into my horrid little palm at age 13. For better or worse, I never 'fancied' any of them nor did anything but allow a little fondling: on my part it was not a sexual experience. But I was never feminazistically inclined to condemn them: these men were well above average in intelligence, well educated (two were writers), amused me far more than the average geography teachers, gave me useful tips (where to find the G spot etc....) and never frightened me in the least. Indeed the only problem with them was that they they were so awfully old and sweaty and heavy-breathing and desperate-for-whatever-it-was-they-did [I tried not to look] that I much preferred their jokes to their visual aids.

	~~PRESS RELEASE~~ by ~~Mr Chris Brand, Department of Psychology, University~~ of ~~Edinburgh~~, ~~1996~~.		I find it totally disgraceful that a 73-year-old man of such distinction should be hounded by the courts and the press. I could certainly never do such work myself. (Though no special admirer of Britain's current Royals, I similarly deplored Princess Anne being arrested and summonsed for speeding in the 1970's.)

	~~From http://www~~.~~cycad~~.~~com~~/~~site/Brand/paedo.html~~		It is true that I am not an unequivocal democrat. -- Democracy needs circumscribing with respect for intelligence, otherwise it will not last long. On that 'democratic elitist' basis, I offer Daniel Gajdusek my support in his struggles. (I hope US supporters might kindly keep me in touch with this case.)</blockquote>

	[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]		[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]

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 As can be seen, this overtly UN-PC, formerly employed psychologist, '''Chris Brand''' supports the Rind Report and any other literature that may be seen as subverting popular absolutes of child sexuality:
-[http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ See "3" about half way down].
+[http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ See "3" about half way down]. '''[This link is now dead]'''
 [[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]

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	As can be seen, this overtly UN-PC, formerly employed psychologist supports the Rind Report and any other literature that may be seen as subverting popular absolutes of child sexuality:		As can be seen, this overtly UN-PC, formerly employed psychologist, '''Chris Brand''' supports the Rind Report and any other literature that may be seen as subverting popular absolutes of child sexuality:

	[http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ See "3" about half way down].		[http://www.crispian.demon.co.uk/ See "3" about half way down].

	[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]]		[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: Academics]][[Category:People: Sympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: British]]