https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Debate_Guide%3A_Pedophiles_chose_their_conditionDebate Guide: Pedophiles chose their condition - Revision history2026-05-01T02:22:19ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.45.3https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=30264&oldid=prevThe Admins at 14:07, 29 December 20242024-12-29T14:07:33Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The critic above supposedly embraced normality, so we must ask when they ''chose'' to be a [[teleiophilia|teleio]]. This, after all, would make a lot more sense than choosing to be a pedophile, as the latter is violently demonized throughout most of the developed world.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The critic above supposedly embraced normality, so we must ask when they ''chose'' to be a [[teleiophilia|teleio]]. This, after all, would make a lot more sense than choosing to be a pedophile, as the latter is violently demonized throughout most of the developed world. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Who would really want that?</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td></tr>
</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=29091&oldid=prevThe Admins at 11:17, 9 September 20242024-09-09T11:17:09Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The critic above supposedly embraced normality, so we must ask when they ''chose'' to be a [[teleiophilia|teleio]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The critic above supposedly embraced normality, so we must ask when they ''chose'' to be a [[teleiophilia|teleio]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. This, after all, would make a lot more sense than choosing to be a pedophile, as the latter is violently demonized throughout most of the developed world</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=29090&oldid=prevThe Admins at 20:59, 8 September 20242024-09-08T20:59:31Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td></tr>
</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=25419&oldid=prevThe Admins at 15:30, 14 April 20242024-04-14T15:30:10Z<p></p>
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</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=25418&oldid=prevThe Admins at 15:27, 14 April 20242024-04-14T15:27:17Z<p></p>
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</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=25417&oldid=prevThe Admins at 15:26, 14 April 20242024-04-14T15:26:33Z<p></p>
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</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=25416&oldid=prevThe Admins at 15:26, 14 April 20242024-04-14T15:26:04Z<p></p>
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</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=25195&oldid=prevThe Admins at 19:50, 8 April 20242024-04-08T19:50:57Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote><font color="green">'''''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pedophiles chose </del>to be that way. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It is the result of embracing </del>evil.'''''</font></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote><font color="green">'''''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pedophilia is so evil, pedophiles must have <u>chosen </ins>to be that way<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></u></ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">They embraced </ins>evil<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, and now they are coming for our children</ins>.'''''</font></blockquote></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td></tr>
</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=15596&oldid=prevThe Admins at 20:43, 19 November 20222022-11-19T20:43:53Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Pedophilia]] (''not'' sexual offending) is an [[Research: A "cure" for pedophilia?|immutable]] [[Research: Pedophilia as a sexual/erotic orientation|pattern of attraction]] just like any other, regardless of how much our moral intuitions beg us to see it as a bad choice. Attempts to cure pedophilia have already failed, just like earlier attempts to eliminate homosexuality. Attraction to children is a [[Debate Guide: Pedophilia is unnatural|natural]] and [[Debate Guide: Evolutionary logic|adaptive]] human trait, regardless of how much it is loathed in modern western societies.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The argument presented here relies on the assertion that "deviant" sexuality is uniquely subject to "free will" - an idea that, if fully endorsed, represents a kind of metaphysical or religious belief. Regardless, no empirical data supports the "choice" paradigm, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">let alone </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">idea </del>of a curable "disorder", as can be seen in the links above. The comments of Fred Berlin, a man who has for many years attempted to reform pedophiles, are quite telling:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The argument presented here relies on the assertion that "deviant" sexuality is uniquely subject to "free will" - an idea that, if fully endorsed, represents a kind of metaphysical or religious belief. Regardless, no empirical data supports the "choice" paradigm, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">not even </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">more liberal concept </ins>of a curable "disorder", as can be seen in the links above. The comments of Fred Berlin, a man who has for many years attempted to reform pedophiles, are quite telling:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''It may be no easier for a person with pedophilia to change his or her sexual orientation than it is for a homosexual or heterosexual individual to do so.''<ref>[[Fred Berlin|Berlin, Fred S.]] (2000). "[http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/157/5/838 Treatments to Change Sexual Orientation]," ''American Journal of Psychiatry'', 157, p. 838.</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''It may be no easier for a person with pedophilia to change his or her sexual orientation than it is for a homosexual or heterosexual individual to do so.''<ref>[[Fred Berlin|Berlin, Fred S.]] (2000). "[http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/157/5/838 Treatments to Change Sexual Orientation]," ''American Journal of Psychiatry'', 157, p. 838.</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr>
</table>The Adminshttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Pedophiles_chose_their_condition&diff=15595&oldid=prevThe Admins at 20:42, 19 November 20222022-11-19T20:42:05Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The argument presented here relies on the assertion that "deviant" sexuality is subject to "free will" - an idea that, if fully endorsed, represents a kind of metaphysical or religious belief. Regardless, no empirical data supports the "choice" paradigm, let alone the idea of a curable "disorder", as can be seen in the links above. The comments of Fred Berlin, a man who has for many years attempted to reform pedophiles, are quite telling:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The argument presented here relies on the assertion that "deviant" sexuality is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">uniquely </ins>subject to "free will" - an idea that, if fully endorsed, represents a kind of metaphysical or religious belief. Regardless, no empirical data supports the "choice" paradigm, let alone the idea of a curable "disorder", as can be seen in the links above. The comments of Fred Berlin, a man who has for many years attempted to reform pedophiles, are quite telling:</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr>
<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''It may be no easier for a person with pedophilia to change his or her sexual orientation than it is for a homosexual or heterosexual individual to do so.''<ref>[[Fred Berlin|Berlin, Fred S.]] (2000). "[http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/157/5/838 Treatments to Change Sexual Orientation]," ''American Journal of Psychiatry'', 157, p. 838.</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''It may be no easier for a person with pedophilia to change his or her sexual orientation than it is for a homosexual or heterosexual individual to do so.''<ref>[[Fred Berlin|Berlin, Fred S.]] (2000). "[http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/157/5/838 Treatments to Change Sexual Orientation]," ''American Journal of Psychiatry'', 157, p. 838.</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr>
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