Debate Guide: Reverse sexualization - Revision history

https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Debate_Guide%3A_Reverse_sexualization Debate Guide: Reverse sexualization - Revision history 2026-04-25T15:43:01Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=24295&oldid=prev JohnHolt at 00:52, 17 February 2024 2024-02-17T00:52:21Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:52, 17 February 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004, leading to an ''upheld'' advertising regulator complaint.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004, leading to an ''upheld'' advertising regulator complaint.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==External links==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/h-m-advert-banned-school-uniform-b2483076.html H&M advert banned] - Similar in the 2020s.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr>  </table>

JohnHolt https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=15239&oldid=prev The Admins at 01:53, 24 October 2022 2022-10-24T01:53:22Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:53, 24 October 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse-sexualized by a British morality "Watchdog"]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Very often, the panic aroused upon the discovery, making or release of naked or provocative child photography renders non-explicitly-sexual matter erotic in retrospect. </del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse-sexualized by a British morality "Watchdog"]]By classifying any naked picture of a child as morally dangerous "pornography" worthy of [[censorship]], we admit that even prepubescent children's bodies arouse some erotic interest in society. It is indeed a bizarre quirk of Anglo-American orthodoxy, that the only "appropriate" response to depictions of naked or non-normative children is to complain of a "sexual" impropriety. Is this itself not only ''improper'', but prurient and counter to widely-accepted [[Research: Youth sexuality|evidence]]? This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal, attests to how human desire is really an inter-meshing of conflicting and complimenting attractions.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By classifying any naked picture of a child as morally dangerous "pornography" worthy of [[censorship]], we admit that even prepubescent children's bodies arouse some erotic interest in society. It is indeed a bizarre quirk of Anglo-American orthodoxy, that the only "appropriate" response to depictions of naked or non-normative children is to complain of a "sexual" impropriety. Is this itself not only ''improper'', but prurient and counter to widely-accepted [[Research: Youth sexuality|evidence]]? This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal, attests to how human desire is really an inter-meshing of conflicting and complimenting attractions.</div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004, leading to an ''upheld'' advertising regulator complaint.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004, leading to an ''upheld'' advertising regulator complaint.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td></tr>  </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=15228&oldid=prev The Admins at 22:46, 23 October 2022 2022-10-23T22:46:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:46, 23 October 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3">Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By classifying any naked picture of a child as morally dangerous "pornography" worthy of [[censorship]], we admit that even prepubescent children's bodies arouse some erotic interest in society. It is indeed a bizarre quirk of Anglo-American orthodoxy, that the only "appropriate" response to depictions of naked or non-normative children is to complain of a "sexual" impropriety. Is this itself not only ''improper'', but prurient and counter to widely-accepted [[Research: Youth sexuality|evidence]]? This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal, attests to how human desire is really an inter-meshing of conflicting and complimenting attractions.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By classifying any naked picture of a child as morally dangerous "pornography" worthy of [[censorship]], we admit that even prepubescent children's bodies arouse some erotic interest in society. It is indeed a bizarre quirk of Anglo-American orthodoxy, that the only "appropriate" response to depictions of naked or non-normative children is to complain of a "sexual" impropriety. Is this itself not only ''improper'', but prurient and counter to widely-accepted [[Research: Youth sexuality|evidence]]? This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal, attests to how human desire is really an inter-meshing of conflicting and complimenting attractions.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, leading to an ''upheld'' advertising regulator complaint</ins>.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr>  </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=15227&oldid=prev The Admins at 22:44, 23 October 2022 2022-10-23T22:44:37Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:44, 23 October 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse-sexualized by a British morality "Watchdog"]]Very often, the panic aroused upon the discovery, making or release of naked or provocative child photography renders non-explicitly-sexual matter erotic in retrospect. </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse-sexualized by a British morality "Watchdog"]]Very often, the panic aroused upon the discovery, making or release of naked or provocative child photography renders non-explicitly-sexual matter erotic in retrospect. </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By classifying any naked picture of a child as morally dangerous "pornography" worthy of [[censorship]], we admit that even prepubescent children's bodies arouse some erotic interest in society. It is indeed a bizarre quirk of Anglo-American orthodoxy, that the only "appropriate" response to depictions of naked or non-normative children is to complain of a "sexual" impropriety. Is this itself not only ''improper'', but prurient and counter to widely-accepted [[Research: Youth sexuality|evidence<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]</del>]]? This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal, attests to how human desire is really an inter-meshing of conflicting and complimenting attractions.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By classifying any naked picture of a child as morally dangerous "pornography" worthy of [[censorship]], we admit that even prepubescent children's bodies arouse some erotic interest in society. It is indeed a bizarre quirk of Anglo-American orthodoxy, that the only "appropriate" response to depictions of naked or non-normative children is to complain of a "sexual" impropriety. Is this itself not only ''improper'', but prurient and counter to widely-accepted [[Research: Youth sexuality|evidence]]? This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal, attests to how human desire is really an inter-meshing of conflicting and complimenting attractions.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One revealing example of reverse-sexualization comes from a Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose to be "sexually inappropriate", as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking the erotic potential of a child. It was the ''absence'' of "uglification" and [[infantilization]] that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard, and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era of "sharenting" Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability of [[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion.</div></td></tr>  </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:39, 23 October 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l9">Line 9:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 9:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Childhood Innocence]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Childhood Innocence]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Erotic Innocence]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Erotic Innocence]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==References==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[fr:Guide de débat: Inverser la sexualisation]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[fr:Guide de débat: Inverser la sexualisation]]</div></td></tr>  </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=15221&oldid=prev The Admins at 22:38, 23 October 2022 2022-10-23T22:38:57Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:38, 23 October 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse-<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sexualised</del>]]Very often, the panic aroused upon the discovery, making or release of naked or provocative child photography renders non-explicitly-sexual matter erotic in retrospect<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Alternatively, by classifying any naked picture of a child as "pornography", "dangerous" and worthy of censorship, we admit that children's bodies arouse erotic interest in society. This is particularly pertinent to the mindset of "sexualisers" - those who are complicit in this sexualising censorship. It is indeed bizarre that under our current stigma, the only "appropriate" thought to be expressed on seeing the naked body of a child depicted for its own sake is one of a ''sexual'' nature. It seems to contradict contemporary society's supposed moral propriety, something only possible in the face of undeniable evidence (children can be erotic). This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal shows to some extent how human sexuality is a heterogeneous mesh of conflicting and complimenting desires, including attraction to children</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sexualized by a British morality "Watchdog"</ins>]]Very often, the panic aroused upon the discovery, making or release of naked or provocative child photography renders non-explicitly-sexual matter erotic in retrospect. </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">One example </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">reverse sexualisation comes from </del>a [<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Junior Armani</del>] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">poster</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">which was criticised for sexualising </del>children. It is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">clear </del>that the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">74 moralistic, totally 'non - pedophilic'(!) UK complainants had somehow </del>"<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">deciphered</del>" <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">just how the boy himself oozed sexuality, and how his - one would imagine, innocent - pose implied a precocious and sexual nature. The role </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">conditioning </del>- <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">even guilt in this process </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">easy </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">see. For what other reason would </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">human being instinctively perceive something as so "sickening" yet </del>"sexual" <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">at the same time</del>? <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">If there really is something universally and timelessly "dangerous" about the sexually attractive child</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">we have yet </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">see the expected instinctual response, instead relying on the social construct </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">contemporary morality to save the children</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">By classifying any naked picture </ins>of a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">child as morally dangerous "pornography" worthy of [</ins>[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">censorship]</ins>], <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">we admit that even prepubescent </ins>children<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'s bodies arouse some erotic interest in society</ins>. It is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">indeed a bizarre quirk of Anglo-American orthodoxy, </ins>that the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">only </ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">appropriate</ins>" <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">response to depictions </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">naked or non</ins>-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">normative children </ins>is to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">complain of </ins>a "sexual" <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">impropriety. Is this itself not only ''improper'', but prurient and counter to widely-accepted [[Research: Youth sexuality|evidence]]]</ins>? <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic, erotic appeal</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">attests </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">how human desire is really an inter-meshing </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">conflicting and complimenting attractions</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==Denial==</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">One revealing </ins>example of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">reverse</ins>-<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sexualization comes from </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Junior Armani poster (pictured), which was (astonishingly) criticized for sexualizing children back in 2004.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3706075.stm Armani advert slammed by watchdog]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070323133318/http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Geocities page with rundown of controversy]</ref> 74 UK adult complainants had determined the pose </ins>to <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be </ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sexually inappropriate</ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, as it carried connotations of precocity and agency - something they instinctively saw as unlocking </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">erotic potential of a child. It was </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''absence'' </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"uglification" and </ins>[[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">infantilization</ins>]] <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">that confounded the complainants, showing that what we are in fact desperately defending is an ''imposed'' moral standard</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and not some sacred natural state. While we might 20 years later (in the era </ins>of "<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sharenting</ins>" <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Instagram Kids) look back and laugh at the ''Armani'' episode, the fact that we do, speaks to the instability </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Childhood Innocence|childhood innocence]] as a notion</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A recent </del>example of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">denial </del>- a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">possible attempt </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">crack down on </del>"<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sexualising</del>" the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">most sexually explicit material can be seen in </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">language </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the </del>[[<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">british]] [[IWF</del>]], <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">where all mentions </del>of "<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">pornography</del>" <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">must be replaced by "images </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">child abuse"</del>.</div></td><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-added"></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr>  </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=15220&oldid=prev The Admins at 22:00, 23 October 2022 2022-10-23T22:00:00Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 22:00, 23 October 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6">Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A recent example of denial - a possible attempt to crack down on "sexualising" the most sexually explicit material can be seen in the language of the [[british]] [[IWF]], where all mentions of "pornography" must be replaced by "images of child abuse".</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>A recent example of denial - a possible attempt to crack down on "sexualising" the most sexually explicit material can be seen in the language of the [[british]] [[IWF]], where all mentions of "pornography" must be replaced by "images of child abuse".</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==See also==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[[Childhood Innocence]]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[[Erotic Innocence]]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[fr:Guide de débat: Inverser la sexualisation]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[fr:Guide de débat: Inverser la sexualisation]]</div></td></tr>  </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=4595&oldid=prev Boeotia at 12:07, 26 April 2009 2009-04-26T12:07:32Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:07, 26 April 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l8">Line 8:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 8:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[fr:Guide de débat: Inverser la sexualisation]]</ins></div></td></tr>  </table>

Boeotia https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Debate_Guide:_Reverse_sexualization&diff=3059&oldid=prev Rez at 18:49, 8 January 2009 2009-01-08T18:49:04Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:49, 8 January 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Sexualised</del>]]<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">One of the most 'counter-productive' phenomena, which our recent history of kindersex denial will be remembered for</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">would have to be the reverse sexualisation of children, via </del>the panic <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">that is </del>aroused upon the discovery, making or release of naked photography. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">By classing </del>any naked picture of a child as <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'sexual' or '</del>pornography<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'</del>, we admit <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the very truth </del>that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">we are trying to repress, i.e. that pictures of </del>children arouse <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sexual emotions throughout culture as a whole</del>. This is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">not </del>to <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">say that </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'</del>sexualisers<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">' particularly find such pictures highly arousing</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">but they do at </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">very least admit a knowledge of what can </del>be <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a turn </del>on<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, regarding </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">bodies </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">children, unless </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">course, they have </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">robotic analysis mechanism for detecting </del>'<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">what turns a pedo on</del>'. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The way that we all intuitively know how a child </del>can <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">aesthetically express sexuality</del>, shows to some extent how human sexuality is a heterogeneous mesh of conflicting and complimenting desires, including attraction to children <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(preferential or not), or in the case of its repression, a clear 'instinct' towards identifying the sexual appeal of children and / or those brief, quickly suppressed feelings towards our own young or those of others</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Image:Armani.PNG|thumb|Reverse<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-sexualised</ins>]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Very often</ins>, the panic aroused upon the discovery, making or release of naked <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">or provocative child </ins>photography <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">renders non-explicitly-sexual matter erotic in retrospect</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Alternatively, by classifying </ins>any naked picture of a child as <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"</ins>pornography<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">", "dangerous" and worthy of censorship</ins>, we admit that children<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'s bodies </ins>arouse <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">erotic interest in society</ins>. This is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">particularly pertinent </ins>to the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">mindset of "</ins>sexualisers<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">" - those who are complicit in this sexualising censorship. It is indeed bizarre that under our current stigma</ins>, the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">only "appropriate" thought to </ins>be <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">expressed </ins>on <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">seeing </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">naked body </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a child depicted for its own sake is one </ins>of a ''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sexual'' nature</ins>. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">It seems to contradict contemporary society's supposed moral propriety, something only possible in the face of undeniable evidence (children </ins>can <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">be erotic). This intuitive knowledge of children's aesthetic</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">erotic appeal </ins>shows to some extent how human sexuality is a heterogeneous mesh of conflicting and complimenting desires, including attraction to children.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>It is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">indeed bizarre </del>that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">under our current stigma</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the only </del>"<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">appropriate</del>" <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">thought to be expressed on seeing </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">naked body of a child depicted for its own sake is </del>one <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">of </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</del>sexual<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'' </del>nature. <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In fact, it </del>is <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">just </del>about <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a perfect contradiction </del>of contemporary <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">society's supposed moral propriety and </del>children<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'s supposed inborn asexuality</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">One example of reverse sexualisation comes from a [http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Junior Armani] poster, which was criticised for sexualising children. </ins>It is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">clear </ins>that <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the 74 moralistic</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">totally 'non - pedophilic'(!) UK complainants had somehow </ins>"<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">deciphered</ins>" <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">just how </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">boy himself oozed sexuality, and how his - </ins>one <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">would imagine, innocent - pose implied </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">precocious and </ins>sexual nature. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The role of conditioning - even guilt in this process is easy to see. For what other reason would a human being instinctively perceive something as so "sickening" yet "sexual" at the same time? If there really </ins>is <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">something universally and timelessly "dangerous" </ins>about <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the sexually attractive child, we have yet to see the expected instinctual response, instead relying on the social construct </ins>of contemporary <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">morality to save the </ins>children.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">An </del>example of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">reverse sexualisation comes from </del>a <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[http://www.geocities.com/pca_1978/art/armani/ Junior Armani] poster, which was criticised for </del>sexualising <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">children. It is clear that </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">74 moralistic, totally 'non - pedophilic'(!) UK complainants had somehow 'deciphered' just how </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">boy himself oozed sexuality, and how the (technically innocent) general pose implied a precocious and sexual nature. So here we are, expressing the fear </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">our inner desires in </del>the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">form of a complaint</del>, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">i.e. not only the denial </del>of <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the image's appeal to oneself, but the counter - claim that 'it </del>must be <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">wrong'. However, for what reason would a human being instinctively perceive something so wrong as overtly sexual? Why do we then need moral perception to tell us that something so 'inherently dangerous' is wrong? In his long evolution, man could not rely on something as flimsy as morality to warn him off universally bad ideas</del>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">==Denial==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A recent </ins>example of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">denial - </ins>a <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">possible attempt to crack down on "</ins>sexualising<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">" </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">most sexually explicit material can be seen in </ins>the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">language </ins>of the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[british]] [[IWF]]</ins>, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">where all mentions </ins>of <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"pornography" </ins>must be <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">replaced by "images of child abuse"</ins>.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Category:Debate]][[Category:Debating Points: Child/Minor]]</div></td></tr>  </table>

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