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Jim Burton: /* Trolling Guide */

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Trolling Guide

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	Trolling is a strategy that has worked for some MAP Activists, and not worked for others. Always pay attention to the T&C and norms on the platform you are using.		Trolling is a strategy that has worked for some MAP Activists, and not worked for others. Always pay attention to the T&C and norms on the platform you are using.

	Jim Burton's essay, [[Essay:Pedophile trolling ~~for beginners~~\|Pedophile trolling ~~for beginners~~]], written with assistance from [[PCMA]], serves as a comprehensive guide to trolling techniques.		Jim Burton's essay on [[Essay:"Pedophile trolling"?\|Pedophile trolling]], written with assistance from [[PCMA]], serves as a comprehensive guide to trolling techniques.

	[[Category:Debate]][[Category: Debate Advice & Technique]]		[[Category:Debate]][[Category: Debate Advice & Technique]]

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	'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.		'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.

	Jim Burton has written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling ~~for beginners~~\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.		Jim Burton has written ([[Essay:"Pedophile trolling"?\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.

	[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]		[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]

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	'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.		'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.

	~~We have also~~ written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.		Jim Burton has written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.

	[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]		[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]

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References

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	Jim Burton's essay, [[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|Pedophile trolling for beginners]], written with assistance from [[PCMA]], serves as a comprehensive guide to trolling techniques.		Jim Burton's essay, [[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|Pedophile trolling for beginners]], written with assistance from [[PCMA]], serves as a comprehensive guide to trolling techniques.

	~~==References==~~

	[[Category:Debate]][[Category: Debate Advice & Technique]]		[[Category:Debate]][[Category: Debate Advice & Technique]]

The Admins: /* The Degenerate's alt-right Trolling Guide */

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The Degenerate's alt-right Trolling Guide

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 Jim Burton's essay, [[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners|Pedophile trolling for beginners]], written with assistance from [[PCMA]], serves as a comprehensive guide to trolling techniques.
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Trolling Guide

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 Trolling is a strategy that has worked for some MAP Activists, and not worked for others. Always pay attention to the T&C and norms on the platform you are using.
-===What is our aim?===
+Jim Burton's essay, [[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners|Pedophile trolling for beginners]], written with assistance from [[PCMA]], serves as a comprehensive guide to trolling techniques.
 ==The [[Degeneracy|Degenerate's]] alt-right Trolling Guide==

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	<div style="margin-right: 25px; float: left;">__TOC__</div>'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.		<div style="margin-right: 25px; float: left;">__TOC__</div>
			:''For a guide to trolling techniques used against MAPs, see [https://web.archive.org/web/20170630142715/https://medium.com/pedophiles-about-pedophilia/trollology-a-basic-course-17de2dfc0639 this] archived blog post.''

			'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.

	We have also written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.		We have also written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.

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	*Sometimes it might happen that you get noticed and people start a mass-reporting campaign against you. If you feel that the risk of a ban is high, ''first'' block whoever is doing this (and their associates) and ''then'' change your username – even going "private" in your settings.		*Sometimes it might happen that you get noticed and people start a mass-reporting campaign against you. If you feel that the risk of a ban is high, ''first'' block whoever is doing this (and their associates) and ''then'' change your username – even going "private" in your settings.

	Use '''mass-blocking tools''' (or ask our group admin for the most recent blocklist). Unfortunately, we are not aware of any app that allows community* sharing of blocklists, and automatic blocking from a raw list.		Use '''mass-blocking tools''' (or ask our group admin for the most recent blocklist). Unfortunately, we are not aware of any app that allows community* sharing of blocklists, and automatic blocking from a raw list. One such script is [https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/398540-twitter-block-with-love Twitter Block With Love].

	With '''MegaBlock''', you can not only block the user from an account that has published a tweet that has been offensive to you for any reason, you can also do the same with all those who liked the tweet. Usually when someone is a violent and arrogant type of enemy, all their followers are of the same kind. They will often co-ordinate to harass you, so you can block people along with all their followers with the Chrome Extension, '''Twitter Block Chain'''.		With '''MegaBlock''', you can not only block the user from an account that has published a tweet that has been offensive to you for any reason, you can also do the same with all those who liked the tweet. Usually when someone is a violent and arrogant type of enemy, all their followers are of the same kind. They will often co-ordinate to harass you, so you can block people along with all their followers with the Chrome Extension, '''Twitter Block Chain'''.

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	<div style="margin-right: 25px; float: left;">__TOC__</div>'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page ~~contains three guides:~~		<div style="margin-right: 25px; float: left;">__TOC__</div>'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.

	*The first is a '''guide to using Twitter''', which goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.		We have also written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.
	*The second is a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general.
	*The third is a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.

	It is worth noting, as a '''general disclaimer''', that debating strategies involving the impersonation or co-option of otherwise hostile parties (such as radical conservatives, 4chan and groypers) are not uncontroversial within our community, especially when they deploy pro-MAP arguments. This guide nevertheless does include some direction as to how said impersonation, subversion and black propaganda might be used.

	[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]		[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]

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	You could therefore conclude your anti-[[degeneracy]] argument by claiming that your target (if not willfully dishonest) is naive, and being manipulated/softened up because they don't ''instinctively'' perceive that pedophilia is degenerate. That they will one day learn to tolerate pedophilia as an identity. Your target is after all, "natively degenerate"; since they have no religion, no absolute morals, and view most forms of deviance within a morally relativistic/constructivist framework in which "(in)validity" is determined by political circumstance/convenience. Point out, using the resources on Newgon, how the predominance of rational and relativistic approaches will inevitably lead to MAP and MAP-Youth relationships becoming normalized. This will always be the case unless some moral standards are held to be absolute truths, starting most importantly in childhood.		You could therefore conclude your anti-[[degeneracy]] argument by claiming that your target (if not willfully dishonest) is naive, and being manipulated/softened up because they don't ''instinctively'' perceive that pedophilia is degenerate. That they will one day learn to tolerate pedophilia as an identity. Your target is after all, "natively degenerate"; since they have no religion, no absolute morals, and view most forms of deviance within a morally relativistic/constructivist framework in which "(in)validity" is determined by political circumstance/convenience. Point out, using the resources on Newgon, how the predominance of rational and relativistic approaches will inevitably lead to MAP and MAP-Youth relationships becoming normalized. This will always be the case unless some moral standards are held to be absolute truths, starting most importantly in childhood.

	If the target employs the quasi-legalistic sophistry of "informed [[consent]]", [[CSA dilemma argument\|give them this dilemma]]. Then point out that they are discriminating against and problematizing "sex" like the truest of moralists, but only when it suits their own degenerate worldview. Ask them what special argument they suddenly have against other peoples' idea of good sex, given they are so permitting of their ''own'' right to express kinks and perversions.		If the target employs the quasi-legalistic sophistry of "informed [[consent]]", [[CSA dilemma argument\|give them this dilemma]]. Then point out that they are discriminating against and problematizing "sex" like the truest of moralists, but only when it suits their own degenerate worldview.<ref>[https://muslimskeptic.com/2023/03/14/atheists-liberals-pedophilia-bestiality/ Muslim Skeptic: Can Liberal Atheists REALLY Criticize Pedophilia, Bestiality?]</ref> Ask them what special argument they suddenly have against other peoples' idea of good sex, given they are so permitting of their ''own'' right to express kinks and perversions.

	There are numerous [[research]] resources and [[Memes and Graphics\|factoid memes]] to use on your target when they revert to bigotry and red pill arguments in their reaction to MAPs trending. The acceptance of MAPs is a natural conclusion of identity politics and social justice theory, so to "own the libs" as they say, just force them to accept their own relative and rational tenets, or swallow their pride.		There are numerous [[research]] resources and [[Memes and Graphics\|factoid memes]] to use on your target when they revert to bigotry and red pill arguments in their reaction to MAPs trending. The acceptance of MAPs is a natural conclusion of identity politics and social justice theory, so to "own the libs" as they say, just force them to accept their own relative and rational tenets, or swallow their pride.

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	'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.		'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.

	Jim Burton has written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling ~~for beginners~~\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.		Jim Burton has written ([[Essay:"Pedophile trolling"?\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.

	[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]		[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]

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	'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.		'''Social Media''' platforms such as [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page has been written as a '''guide to using Twitter''', and therefore it goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.

	~~We have also~~ written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.		Jim Burton has written ([[Essay:Pedophile trolling for beginners\|in essay form]]) a '''guide to trolling techniques''' in general. This essay also works as a '''primer for alternative-right trolls''' who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse and chan culture, as well as allies who need to enter the mindset of said individuals to fit in with their group.

	[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]		[[File:Twitter.png\|thumb\|MAPs have been visible on Twitter for most of its history]]