Debate Guide: Teen brain - Revision history

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	[[File:Kids1.jpg\|thumb\|Following ~~misues~~ of science by the media, it is widely believed adolescents have inferior and less developed brains]]		[[File:Kids1.jpg\|thumb\|Following misuse of science by the media, it is widely believed adolescents have inferior and less developed brains]]
	__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"[[Adolescence\|teen turmoil]]"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.		__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"[[Adolescence\|teen turmoil]]"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.

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			[[File:Kids1.jpg\|thumb\|Following misues of science by the media, it is widely believed adolescents have inferior and less developed brains]]
	__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"[[Adolescence\|teen turmoil]]"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.		__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"[[Adolescence\|teen turmoil]]"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.

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	*That '''sex is something highly complex and hard to understand'''.		*That '''sex is something highly complex and hard to understand'''.
	:For example, if there were no taboo, how easy would it be for mentally inferior people to practise safe sex? At its most basic level, enjoying pleasurable sensations is an incredibly simple, instinctual thing. This is why western women are often seen joking about needing to get drunk enough to have sex, and not even being able to recall said events.		:For example, if there were no taboo, how easy would it be for mentally inferior people to practise safe sex? At its most basic level, enjoying pleasurable sensations is an incredibly simple, instinctual thing. This is why western women are often seen joking about needing to get drunk enough to have sex, and not even being able to recall said events; i.e. for them, it seems, overcoming social inhibitions is more important than being able to understand what is going on.

	*That in its current form, the '''[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent\|age of consent]] is realistic and viable''' as a legal construct.		*That in its current form, the '''[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent\|age of consent]] is realistic and viable''' as a legal construct.

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	__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"teen turmoil"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.		__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"[[Adolescence\|teen turmoil]]"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.

	<blockquote><font color="green">'''''With scientists discovering that the brain does not stop developing until 25, we know that minors cannot give [[consent]] to sex, so why should we change the law?'''''</font></blockquote>		<blockquote><font color="green">'''''With scientists discovering that the brain does not stop developing until 25, we know that minors cannot give [[consent]] to sex, so why should we change the law?'''''</font></blockquote>

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Examples of teen excellence

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	==Examples of teen excellence==		==Examples of teen excellence==

	In [[Robert Epstein]]'s article linked below, he refers to "long-standing studies of intelligence, perceptual abilities and memory function [showing] that teens are in many instances far superior to adults. Visual acuity, for example, peaks around the time of puberty. “Incidental memory”—the kind of memory that occurs automatically, without		In [[Robert Epstein]]'s article linked below, he refers to:
	any mnemonic effort, peaks at about age 12 and declines through life. [...] In the 1940s
	pioneering intelligence researchers J. C. Raven and David Wechsler, relying on radically different kinds of intelligence tests, each showed that raw scores on intelligence tests peak between ages 13 and 15 and decline after that throughout life. [...] And whereas brain size is not necessarily a good indication of processing ability, it is notable that recent scanning data collected by Eric Courchesne and his colleagues at the University of California, San Diego, show that brain volume peaks at about age 14."		::''"long-standing studies of intelligence, perceptual abilities and memory function ''[showing]'' that teens are in many instances far superior to adults. Visual acuity, for example, peaks around the time of puberty. “Incidental memory”—the kind of memory that occurs automatically, without any mnemonic effort, peaks at about age 12 and declines through life. ''[...]'' In the 1940s pioneering intelligence researchers J. C. Raven and David Wechsler, relying on radically different kinds of intelligence tests, each showed that raw scores on intelligence tests peak between ages 13 and 15 and decline after that throughout life. ''[...]'' And whereas brain size is not necessarily a good indication of processing ability, it is notable that recent scanning data collected by Eric Courchesne and his colleagues at the University of California, San Diego, show that brain volume peaks at about age 14."''

	==Fallacies and cognitive distortions covered==		==Fallacies and cognitive distortions covered==

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	*That '''sex is something highly complex and hard to understand'''.		*That '''sex is something highly complex and hard to understand'''.
	:For example, if there were no taboo, how easy would it be for mentally inferior people to practise safe sex? At its most basic level, enjoying pleasurable sensations is an incredibly simple, instinctual thing.		:For example, if there were no taboo, how easy would it be for mentally inferior people to practise safe sex? At its most basic level, enjoying pleasurable sensations is an incredibly simple, instinctual thing. This is why western women are often seen joking about needing to get drunk enough to have sex, and not even being able to recall said events.

	*That in its current form, the '''[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent\|age of consent]] is realistic and viable''' as a legal construct.		*That in its current form, the '''[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent\|age of consent]] is realistic and viable''' as a legal construct.

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External links

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	*[http://drrobertepstein.com/pdf/Epstein-THE_MYTH_OF_THE_TEEN_BRAIN-Scientific_American_Mind-4-07.pdf The Myth of the Teen Brain in ''Scientific American''] - [[Robert Epstein]].		*[http://drrobertepstein.com/pdf/Epstein-THE_MYTH_OF_THE_TEEN_BRAIN-Scientific_American_Mind-4-07.pdf The Myth of the Teen Brain in ''Scientific American''] - [[Robert Epstein]].
	*[http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-5284-alcohol-rots-your-brain-and-other-lies-the-government-tells-you.html Alcohol rots your brain and other lies the government tells you], an article debunking teen-brain/neo-prohibitionist propaganda using the example of alcohol.		*[http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-5284-alcohol-rots-your-brain-and-other-lies-the-government-tells-you.html Alcohol rots your brain and other lies the government tells you], an article debunking teen-brain/neo-prohibitionist propaganda using the example of alcohol.
			*Jane C. Hu, [https://slate.com/technology/2022/11/brain-development-25-year-old-mature-myth.html The Myth of the 25-Year-Old Brain] (''Slate'', Nov 27 2022).

	==References==		==References==

	[[fr:Guide de débat: Le cerveau des adolescents]]		[[fr:Guide de débat: Le cerveau des adolescents]]

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	__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"teen turmoil"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.		__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"teen turmoil"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.

	<blockquote><font color="green">'''''With scientists discovering that the brain does not stop developing until 25, we know that minors cannot give consent to sex, so why should we change the law?'''''</font></blockquote>		<blockquote><font color="green">'''''With scientists discovering that the brain does not stop developing until 25, we know that minors cannot give [[consent]] to sex, so why should we change the law?'''''</font></blockquote>

	The argument is based on outdated science and a series of false assumptions. [[Research: Cognitive ability\|Our research article on cognitive ability]] has many sources to combine with the following rebutted myths:		The argument is based on outdated science and a series of false assumptions. [[Research: Cognitive ability\|Our research article on cognitive ability]] has many sources to combine with the following rebutted myths:
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	*That in its current form, the '''[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent\|age of consent]] is realistic and viable''' as a legal construct.		*That in its current form, the '''[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent\|age of consent]] is realistic and viable''' as a legal construct.

	We could for the proponent's benefit, then go on to extend the theory to other groups who tend to be less mentally capable. For example, racial groups exhibiting low IQs and low grades, the mentally ill, poor, elderly or otherwise vulnerable could all be given "protections" because of their "social status" and/or "inborn inferiorities" that might include "impulsive nature". And since "brain development does not end until 25", why not ~~equalise~~ the [[~~age~~ of ~~consent~~]] with such a scientifically-approved magical age, or go even higher since operational intelligence depends on learning facts; i.e. parameters of reference?		We could for the proponent's benefit, then go on to extend the theory to other groups who tend to be less mentally capable. For example, racial groups exhibiting low IQs and low grades, the mentally ill, poor, elderly or otherwise vulnerable could all be given "protections" because of their "social status" and/or "inborn inferiorities" that might include "impulsive nature". And since "brain development does not end until 25", why not equalize the [[Age of Consent]] with such a scientifically-approved magical age, or go even higher since operational intelligence depends on learning facts; i.e. parameters of reference?

	In summary, these arguments are simply inferred from what is an already compromised body of "teen brain" literature and associated media-scares, designed to re-affirm contemporary anti-youth prejudice. The conclusions are based upon a logical leap from physiological (brain development) to cognitive, in that proponents fail to point out how exactly structure impairs ability. Then another logical leap is made from this half-baked cognitive argument to possible [[Victimology\|victimological]], criminal and legislative implications.		In summary, these arguments are simply inferred from what is an already compromised body of "teen brain" literature and associated media-scares, designed to re-affirm contemporary anti-youth prejudice. The conclusions are based upon a logical leap from physiological (brain development) to cognitive, in that proponents fail to point out how exactly structure impairs ability. Then another logical leap is made from this half-baked cognitive argument to possible [[Victimology\|victimological]], criminal and legislative implications.

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	__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"teen turmoil"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.		__NOTOC__The brains of teenagers are described as inferior and underdeveloped, leading some laymen to conclude that western '''"teen turmoil"''' and allegedly '''"bad decision making"''' are innate and unavoidable.
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	:''"With scientists discovering that the brain does not stop developing until 25, we know that minors cannot give consent to sex, so why should we change the law?"''		<blockquote><font color="green">'''''With scientists discovering that the brain does not stop developing until 25, we know that minors cannot give consent to sex, so why should we change the law?'''''</font></blockquote>
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	The argument is based on outdated science and a series of false assumptions. [[Research: Cognitive ability\|Our research article on cognitive ability]] has many sources to combine with the following rebutted myths:		The argument is based on outdated science and a series of false assumptions. [[Research: Cognitive ability\|Our research article on cognitive ability]] has many sources to combine with the following rebutted myths:

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	==Excerpt Graphic Library==		==Excerpt Graphic Library==

	~~The~~ EGL on '''Competences and Development''' has some relevant information. Just right click/save and reproduce by uploading in short-form media to bypass character limits.		Although the [[Research: Cognitive ability\|research]] section goes into a lot more detail, the EGL on '''Competences and Development''' has some relevant information. Just right click/save and reproduce by uploading in short-form media to bypass character limits.

	{{Template:EGLComp}}		{{Template:EGLComp}}