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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and [[Chin-Keung_Li|C.K. Li]]. (1990). ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' (London: Duckworth, 1990).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. C.K. Li's PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(available as PDF via Libgen)</ins>.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and [[Chin-Keung_Li|C.K. Li]]. (1990). <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[http://library.lol/main/441D7CF38849721C7613D41D60D6D50A </ins>''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">] </ins>(London: Duckworth, 1990<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">; Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books, 1993</ins>).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Chin-Keung_Li|</ins>C.K. Li's<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and C.K. Li. (1990). ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' (London: Duckworth, 1990).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. C.K. Li's PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Chin-Keung_Li|</ins>C.K. Li<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>. (1990). ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' (London: Duckworth, 1990).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. C.K. Li's PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><blockquote></del>''The reason why, in spite of these reservations about his arguments, I still support Brongersma's conclusion is simply this. In my judgment, the trauma of the criminal process is worse for the child than the sexual incident itself. Consensual sexual behaviour of children, however inconvenient or inappropriate, is better controlled by education and welfare measures than by the criminal law. Neither Brongersma nor I, however, is suggesting that the sexual molestation of unwilling, reluctant and complaining children should be other than a criminal act.'' (pp. 32-33).</blockquote> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''The reason why, in spite of these reservations about his arguments, I still support Brongersma's conclusion is simply this. In my judgment, the trauma of the criminal process is worse for the child than the sexual incident itself. Consensual sexual behaviour of children, however inconvenient or inappropriate, is better controlled by education and welfare measures than by the criminal law. Neither Brongersma nor I, however, is suggesting that the sexual molestation of unwilling, reluctant and complaining children should be other than a criminal act.'' (pp. 32-33).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''I happen to agree that the criminal prosecution of sexual acts is inappropriate, whatever the age of the participants. [...] One might conclude from Brongersma's comments that a child's contact with adult sexuality is a neutral, sometimes even a positively beneficial, experience, and this may indeed sometimes be the case. Be that as it may, one cannot escape the confines of one's own culture, and the fact remains that it is the norm for children to be kept, as far as practicable, in ignorance of adult sexuality, and that, for some at least, a sudden, unexpected confrontation can be a frightening, off-putting experience. Furthermore, where a child is concerned, passive acquiescence from fear or ignorance is not necessarily "informed consent".''</blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''I happen to agree that the criminal prosecution of sexual acts is inappropriate, whatever the age of the participants. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>[...]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'' </ins>One might conclude from Brongersma's comments that a child's contact with adult sexuality is a neutral, sometimes even a positively beneficial, experience, and this may indeed sometimes be the case. Be that as it may, one cannot escape the confines of one's own culture, and the fact remains that it is the norm for children to be kept, as far as practicable, in ignorance of adult sexuality, and that, for some at least, a sudden, unexpected confrontation can be a frightening, off-putting experience. Furthermore, where a child is concerned, passive acquiescence from fear or ignorance is not necessarily "informed consent".''</blockquote></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The reason why, in spite of these reservations about his arguments, I still support Brongersma's conclusion is simply this. In my judgment, the trauma of the criminal process is worse for the child than the sexual incident itself. Consensual sexual behaviour of children, however inconvenient or inappropriate, is better controlled by education and welfare measures than by the criminal law. Neither Brongersma nor I, however, is suggesting that the sexual molestation of unwilling, reluctant and complaining children should be other than a criminal act.'' (pp. 32-33).</blockquote> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The reason why, in spite of these reservations about his arguments, I still support Brongersma's conclusion is simply this. In my judgment, the trauma of the criminal process is worse for the child than the sexual incident itself. Consensual sexual behaviour of children, however inconvenient or inappropriate, is better controlled by education and welfare measures than by the criminal law. Neither Brongersma nor I, however, is suggesting that the sexual molestation of unwilling, reluctant and complaining children should be other than a criminal act.'' (pp. 32-33).</blockquote> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''They may come to feel guilty, perhaps because of the sordid or secretive circumstances of the affair, or from fear of the consequences of detection. This may in turn interfere with the development of relationships with peers. In the absence of reliable research information as to the extent and frequency of these complications, it is difficult to know what to advise when an actual or suspected pedophiliac relationship comes to the attention of a parent, teacher or other concerned individual. The usual tendency is to over-react. The effects of anxious probing by parents, followed by police interrogations, court proceedings and the possible imprisonment of someone to whom the child has become much attached, are certainly worse than the effects, if any, of the sexual activity itself.''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></blockquote></del><ref>D.J. West. Adult Sexual Interest in Children: Implications for Social Control, in ''Adult Sexual Interest in Children'', edited by Mark Cook and Kevin Howells, (Academic Press, 1981), pp.255-256.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''They may come to feel guilty, perhaps because of the sordid or secretive circumstances of the affair, or from fear of the consequences of detection. This may in turn interfere with the development of relationships with peers. In the absence of reliable research information as to the extent and frequency of these complications, it is difficult to know what to advise when an actual or suspected pedophiliac relationship comes to the attention of a parent, teacher or other concerned individual. The usual tendency is to over-react. The effects of anxious probing by parents, followed by police interrogations, court proceedings and the possible imprisonment of someone to whom the child has become much attached, are certainly worse than the effects, if any, of the sexual activity itself.''<ref>D.J. West. Adult Sexual Interest in Children: Implications for Social Control, in ''Adult Sexual Interest in Children'', edited by Mark Cook and Kevin Howells, (Academic Press, 1981), pp.255-256.</ref<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">></blockquote</ins>></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''It is universally agreed that the criminal law should protect persons of all ages from unwanted sexual intrusion. Controversy arises over the criminalisation of consensual acts as “sexual assaults”. This creates a category of victimless crimes, justified on the grounds that children must be protected from giving way to their own sexual inclinations or from responding to the seductive approaches of others. Professor Brian Hogan (1978) identified the crucial issue when he questioned whether the basic assumption behind the existing law, namely that the young are harmed by sexual experience, can be proved. Libertarian principles suggest the abolition of a legal fiction of an age of consent and the introduction of a requirement to have a complaining victim before a criminal charge can be brought. Objections to this simple solution are substantial, if not completely convincing. Assaulted children are sometimes very young infants, even babies, and so not in a position to appreciate fully what is happening or to formulate a complaint. To meet this, the law could fix some age below which it would be assumed, unless the contrary could be proved, that the child did not consent.''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></blockquote></del><ref>D.J. West, ''Sexual Crimes and Confrontations'' (Gower Publishing Company Limited, 1987), p. 58, p. 62.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''It is universally agreed that the criminal law should protect persons of all ages from unwanted sexual intrusion. Controversy arises over the criminalisation of consensual acts as “sexual assaults”. This creates a category of victimless crimes, justified on the grounds that children must be protected from giving way to their own sexual inclinations or from responding to the seductive approaches of others. Professor Brian Hogan (1978) identified the crucial issue when he questioned whether the basic assumption behind the existing law, namely that the young are harmed by sexual experience, can be proved. Libertarian principles suggest the abolition of a legal fiction of an age of consent and the introduction of a requirement to have a complaining victim before a criminal charge can be brought. Objections to this simple solution are substantial, if not completely convincing. Assaulted children are sometimes very young infants, even babies, and so not in a position to appreciate fully what is happening or to formulate a complaint. To meet this, the law could fix some age below which it would be assumed, unless the contrary could be proved, that the child did not consent.''<ref>D.J. West, ''Sexual Crimes and Confrontations'' (Gower Publishing Company Limited, 1987), p. 58, p. 62.</ref<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">></blockquote</ins>></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and C.K. Li. (1990). ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' (London: Duckworth, 1990).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. C.K. Li's PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and C.K. Li. (1990). ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' (London: Duckworth, 1990).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. C.K. Li's PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Donald James West''', or '''Donald J. West''' (9 June 1924 – 31 January 2020) was British psychiatrist and criminologist, Emeritus Professor of Clinical Criminology at the University of Cambridge and former Director of the Institute of Criminology at the University of Cambridge, UK. </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Donald James West''', or '''Donald J. West''' (9 June 1924 – 31 January 2020) was <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a </ins>British psychiatrist and criminologist, Emeritus Professor of Clinical Criminology at the University of Cambridge and former Director of the Institute of Criminology at the University of Cambridge, UK. </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>He was particularly known for his 1955 book, ''Homosexuality'' (revised 1968), arguing for tolerance. He was an ally to sexual minorities including MAPs, co-authoring with fellow MAP ally psychiatrist [[Richard Green]] <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a supportive book on homosexuality (1997)</del>.<ref>West and Green (eds), [https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/b108010 Sociolegal Control of Homosexuality: A Multi-Nation Comparison] (New York : Plenum Press, 1997).</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>He was particularly known for his 1955 book, ''Homosexuality'' (revised 1968), arguing for tolerance. He was an ally to sexual minorities including MAPs, co-authoring <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a supportive book on homosexuality (1997) </ins>with fellow MAP ally psychiatrist [[Richard Green]].<ref>West and Green (eds), [https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/b108010 Sociolegal Control of Homosexuality: A Multi-Nation Comparison] (New York : Plenum Press, 1997).</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>West helped pioneering 1st wave [[MAP Movement]] figure [[Thomas O'Carroll]] with his book, ''[http://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/preface.htm Paedophilia: The Radical Case]'' (1980), with O’Carroll giving West his “heartfelt thanks” in the introduction. Much later in 2011, he helped promote O’Carroll’s book ''Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons'', writing that the author’s “vivid and insightful commentary is a joy to read”.<ref>See [https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-telegraph-letters-article-jackson-3044249 Tom O'Carroll writing in a Coventry news website.]</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>West helped pioneering 1st wave [[MAP Movement]] figure [[Thomas O'Carroll]] with his book, ''[http://www.ipce.info/host/radicase/preface.htm Paedophilia: The Radical Case]'' (1980), with O’Carroll giving West his “heartfelt thanks” in the introduction. Much later in 2011, he helped promote O’Carroll’s book ''Michael Jackson's Dangerous Liaisons'', writing that the author’s “vivid and insightful commentary is a joy to read”.<ref>See [https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-telegraph-letters-article-jackson-3044249 Tom O'Carroll writing in a Coventry news website.]</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Responding to Dutch MAP [Edward Brongersma]]'s article ''The Meaning of Indecency'', published in the ''British Journal of Criminology'',<ref>EDWARD BRONGERSMA, THE MEANING OF “INDECENCY” WITH RESPECT TO MORAL OFFENCES INVOLVING CHILDREN, The British Journal of Criminology, Volume 20, Issue 1, January 1980, Pages 20–32, <https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordjournals.bjc.a047128></ref> West criticized Brongersma's use of research while voicing his agreement with his overall conclusions<ref>Commentary by D.J. West to The Meaning of ‘Indecency’ with Respect to Moral Offences Involving Children, by Edward Brongersma, British Journal of Criminology, Vol. 20 No. 1 Jan. 1980. pp. 32-33.</ref>:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Responding to Dutch MAP <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[</ins>[Edward Brongersma]]'s article ''The Meaning of Indecency'', published in the ''British Journal of Criminology'',<ref>EDWARD BRONGERSMA, THE MEANING OF “INDECENCY” WITH RESPECT TO MORAL OFFENCES INVOLVING CHILDREN, The British Journal of Criminology, Volume 20, Issue 1, January 1980, Pages 20–32, <https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordjournals.bjc.a047128></ref> West criticized Brongersma's use of research while voicing his agreement with his overall conclusions<ref>Commentary by D.J. West to The Meaning of ‘Indecency’ with Respect to Moral Offences Involving Children, by Edward Brongersma, British Journal of Criminology, Vol. 20 No. 1 Jan. 1980. pp. 32-33.</ref>:</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''I happen to agree that the criminal prosecution of sexual acts is inappropriate, whatever the age of the participants. [...] One might conclude from Brongersma's comments that a child's contact with adult sexuality is a neutral, sometimes even a positively beneficial, experience, and this may indeed sometimes be the case. Be that as it may, one cannot escape the confines of one's own culture, and the fact remains that it is the norm for children to be kept, as far as practicable, in ignorance of adult sexuality, and that, for some at least, a sudden, unexpected confrontation can be a frightening, off-putting experience. Furthermore, where a child is concerned, passive acquiescence from fear or ignorance is not necessarily "informed consent".''</blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''I happen to agree that the criminal prosecution of sexual acts is inappropriate, whatever the age of the participants. [...] One might conclude from Brongersma's comments that a child's contact with adult sexuality is a neutral, sometimes even a positively beneficial, experience, and this may indeed sometimes be the case. Be that as it may, one cannot escape the confines of one's own culture, and the fact remains that it is the norm for children to be kept, as far as practicable, in ignorance of adult sexuality, and that, for some at least, a sudden, unexpected confrontation can be a frightening, off-putting experience. Furthermore, where a child is concerned, passive acquiescence from fear or ignorance is not necessarily "informed consent".''</blockquote></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">age-disparate </del>sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and C.K. Li. (1990). ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' (London: Duckworth, 1990).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. C.K. Li's PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>In 1990, he published a book chapter reporting on the nuance of overall positively recalled minor-older sexual experience, in the book ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study''.<ref>Donald J. West, T.P. Woodhouse, and C.K. Li. (1990). ''Children’s sexual encounters with adults: a scientific study'' (London: Duckworth, 1990).</ref> The book included 2 chapters which give the results of 2 separate studies, after asking a community sample of university students and (in the second study) people chosen from the UK Electoral Register, about sexual experiences they had had before age 11 with someone over age 16, and those they had between age 11 and age 15 with someone over 18. West performs a literature review and notes the persistence of positive youthful experience despite stigma and criminal sanction, as well as showing how the same data can be interpreted differently depending on the author's perspective. C.K. Li's PhD dissertation on the self-perception of pedophiles living in the community is also included.<ref>Summaries of these chapters can be found here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/west&woodhouse.htm and here https://www.mhamic.org/sources/li1.htm</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>He was particularly known for his 1955 book, Homosexuality (revised 1968), arguing for tolerance. He was an ally to sexual minorities including MAPs, co-authoring with fellow MAP ally psychiatrist [[Richard Green]] a supportive book on homosexuality (1997).<ref>West and Green (eds), [https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/b108010 Sociolegal Control of Homosexuality: A Multi-Nation Comparison] (New York : Plenum Press, 1997).</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>He was particularly known for his 1955 book, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>Homosexuality<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">'' </ins>(revised 1968), arguing for tolerance. He was an ally to sexual minorities including MAPs, co-authoring with fellow MAP ally psychiatrist [[Richard Green]] a supportive book on homosexuality (1997).<ref>West and Green (eds), [https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/b108010 Sociolegal Control of Homosexuality: A Multi-Nation Comparison] (New York : Plenum Press, 1997).</ref> </div></td></tr>
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