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		<title>The Admins at 21:00, 14 March 2009</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Kates puts forward a simple argument against the body of [[research]] demonstrating little or no long term harm arising from [[child sexual abuse]], basing it on an assumption that researchers are attempting to legitimise the sex:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Kates puts forward a simple argument against the body of [[research]] demonstrating little or no long term harm arising from [[child sexual abuse]], basing it on an assumption that researchers are attempting to legitimise the sex:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;&quot;If we discovered through &quot;research&quot; that a significant majority of college students who had broken bones in childhood suffered no obvious long-term effects from it, would that then make it okay for adults to sock a kid on occasion and break a few ribs?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:&#039;&#039;&quot;If we discovered through &quot;research&quot; that a significant majority of college students who had broken bones in childhood suffered no obvious long-term effects from it, would that then make it okay for adults to sock a kid on occasion and break a few ribs?&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Child abuse does often cause lasting detrimental effects, but that doesn&#039;t mean if there aren&#039;t (obviously discernable) lasting effects, it wasn&#039;t &quot;abuse&quot;!&quot;&#039;&#039;[http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/009.htm#effects]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;Child abuse does often cause lasting detrimental effects, but that doesn&#039;t mean if there aren&#039;t (obviously discernable) lasting effects, it wasn&#039;t &quot;abuse&quot;!&quot;&#039;&#039;[http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/009.htm#effects]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;She uses her &amp;quot;Liz Library&amp;quot; website to paint researchers including [[Bruce Rind]], [[Robert Bauserman]], [[Ralph Underwager]] and [[Warren Farrell]] (&amp;quot;Pedophile? Or just the worst kind of two-faced opportunist there is&amp;quot;) as advocates of child abuse, often casting doubt upon percieved &amp;quot;agendas&amp;quot;. However, Kates rarely attempts to explain how said agendas interfere with the accuracy of research, and completely fails to analyse her own.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;She uses her &amp;quot;Liz Library&amp;quot; website to paint researchers including [[Bruce Rind]], [[Robert Bauserman]], [[Ralph Underwager]] and [[Warren Farrell]] (&amp;quot;Pedophile? Or just the worst kind of two-faced opportunist there is&amp;quot;) as advocates of child abuse, often casting doubt upon percieved &amp;quot;agendas&amp;quot;. However, Kates rarely attempts to explain how said agendas interfere with the accuracy of research, and completely fails to analyse her own.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>The Admins at 20:59, 14 March 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-03-14T20:59:35Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Elizabeth J. Kates&#039;&#039;&#039; is a practising Florida Attorney at Law and [[Feminism|feminist]] who uses her website to misrepresent and attack [[child abuse]] researchers. Although Kates also holds anti-joint-custody and pro-fatherless views, her opposition to [[psychiatry]] distinguishes her from otherwise like-minded feminists.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[Image:Kates.jpg|frame|Kates]]&lt;/ins&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Elizabeth J. Kates&#039;&#039;&#039; is a practising Florida Attorney at Law and [[Feminism|feminist]] who uses her website to misrepresent and attack [[child abuse]] researchers. Although Kates also holds anti-joint-custody and pro-fatherless views, her opposition to [[psychiatry]] distinguishes her from otherwise like-minded feminists.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>The Admins: New page: &#039;&#039;&#039;Elizabeth J. Kates&#039;&#039;&#039; is a practising Florida Attorney at Law and feminist who uses her website to misrepresent and attack child abuse researchers. Although Kates also ...</title>
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		<updated>2009-03-14T20:58:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Elizabeth J. Kates&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a practising Florida Attorney at Law and &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Feminism&quot; title=&quot;Feminism&quot;&gt;feminist&lt;/a&gt; who uses her website to misrepresent and attack &lt;a href=&quot;/wiki/Child_abuse&quot; title=&quot;Child abuse&quot;&gt;child abuse&lt;/a&gt; researchers. Although Kates also ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Elizabeth J. Kates&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a practising Florida Attorney at Law and [[Feminism|feminist]] who uses her website to misrepresent and attack [[child abuse]] researchers. Although Kates also holds anti-joint-custody and pro-fatherless views, her opposition to [[psychiatry]] distinguishes her from otherwise like-minded feminists.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Arguments==&lt;br /&gt;
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Kates puts forward a simple argument against the body of [[research]] demonstrating little or no long term harm arising from [[child sexual abuse]], basing it on an assumption that researchers are attempting to legitimise the sex:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;If we discovered through &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; that a significant majority of college students who had broken bones in childhood suffered no obvious long-term effects from it, would that then make it okay for adults to sock a kid on occasion and break a few ribs?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Child abuse does often cause lasting detrimental effects, but that doesn&amp;#039;t mean if there aren&amp;#039;t (obviously discernable) lasting effects, it wasn&amp;#039;t &amp;quot;abuse&amp;quot;!&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/009.htm#effects]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
She uses her &amp;quot;Liz Library&amp;quot; website to paint researchers including [[Bruce Rind]], [[Robert Bauserman]], [[Ralph Underwager]] and [[Warren Farrell]] (&amp;quot;Pedophile? Or just the worst kind of two-faced opportunist there is&amp;quot;) as advocates of child abuse, often casting doubt upon percieved &amp;quot;agendas&amp;quot;. However, Kates rarely attempts to explain how said agendas interfere with the accuracy of research, and completely fails to analyse her own.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.florida-attorneys-at-law.com/ Practise website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thelizlibrary.org/site-index/site-index-body.html#Child%20Abuse Child abuse writings]&lt;br /&gt;
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