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	*Deborah L. Tolman, ‘Doing Desire: Adolescent Girls’ Struggles for/with Sexuality’, in Gender and Society, 8:3 (1994), 324–342.		*Deborah L. Tolman, ‘Doing Desire: Adolescent Girls’ Struggles for/with Sexuality’, in Gender and Society, 8:3 (1994), 324–342.
	*Laina Y. Bay-Cheng and Amanda E. Lewis, 'Our “Ideal Girl”: Prescriptions of Female Adolescent Sexuality in a Feminist Mentorship Program', in Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work, 21:1 (2006), 71-83.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0886109905283137</ref>		*Laina Y. Bay-Cheng and Amanda E. Lewis, 'Our “Ideal Girl”: Prescriptions of Female Adolescent Sexuality in a Feminist Mentorship Program', in Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work, 21:1 (2006), 71-83.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0886109905283137</ref>
			*Nancy Whittier, ''The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State'' (Oxford University Press, 2011).<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Child-Sexual-Abuse-Movements/dp/0199783314 Nancy Whittier, ''The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State'' (Oxford University Press, 2011).]</ref>
	*Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.1215/10407391-7481204 Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.]</ref>		*Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.1215/10407391-7481204 Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.]</ref>
	*Feona Attwood, ‘Sluts and Riot Grrrls: Female Identity and Sexual Agency’, in Journal of Gender Studies, 16:3 (2007), 233–247.		*Feona Attwood, ‘Sluts and Riot Grrrls: Female Identity and Sexual Agency’, in Journal of Gender Studies, 16:3 (2007), 233–247.

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	{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].		{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].

	Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)\|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".		Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)\|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Nina Power]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".

	At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).		At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).

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	{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].		{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].

	Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".		Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)\|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".

	At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).		At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).

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	*Michelle Fine, Sexuality, Schooling, and Adolescent Females: The Missing Discourse of Desire, in Harvard Educational Review, 58:1 (1988), 29–54<ref>https://doi.org/10.17763/haer.58.1.u0468k1v2n2n8242</ref>; Cf. Fine, X. Desire: The Morning (and 15 years) After, in Feminism & Psychology, 15:1 (2005), 54-60.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0959353505049708</ref>		*Michelle Fine, Sexuality, Schooling, and Adolescent Females: The Missing Discourse of Desire, in Harvard Educational Review, 58:1 (1988), 29–54<ref>https://doi.org/10.17763/haer.58.1.u0468k1v2n2n8242</ref>; Cf. Fine, X. Desire: The Morning (and 15 years) After, in Feminism & Psychology, 15:1 (2005), 54-60.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0959353505049708</ref>
	*Lynda Marin, Mother and Child: The Erotic Bond, in ''Mother's Journeys: Feminists Write about Mothering'', ed. by Maureen T. Reddy, Martha Roth, Amy Sheldon, (Spinsters Ink, Minneapolis, 1994), pp. 9-21.<ref>http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/MaCTEB.html</ref>		*Lynda Marin, Mother and Child: The Erotic Bond, in ''Mother's Journeys: Feminists Write about Mothering'', ed. by Maureen T. Reddy, Martha Roth, Amy Sheldon, (Spinsters Ink, Minneapolis, 1994), pp. 9-21.<ref>http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/MaCTEB.html</ref>
	* Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz, 'You Learn Better on An Old Bicycle: Erotic and Sexual Relations Between Women and Minors', in ''[[Paidika]]: The Journal of Paedophilia'', Vol. 2, No. 4 (1992): Special Women's lssue, pp. 2-13. [Newgon: Marjan Sax is listed as a "feminst sex activist, political scientist, and writer"].		* [[Marjan Sax]] and Sjuul Deckwitz, 'You Learn Better on An Old Bicycle: Erotic and Sexual Relations Between Women and Minors', in ''[[Paidika]]: The Journal of Paedophilia'', Vol. 2, No. 4 (1992): Special Women's lssue, pp. 2-13. [Newgon: Marjan Sax is listed as a "feminst sex activist, political scientist, and writer"].
	* Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk, “Introduction: Reflections on the Relationship between Feminism and Child Law,” in ''Feminist Perspectives on Child Law'', ed. Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk (London: Cavendish, 2000).<ref>[http://library.lol/main/676071FAB671AE21153A9D87680FFC37 Feminist Perspectives on Child Law PDF]</ref>		* Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk, “Introduction: Reflections on the Relationship between Feminism and Child Law,” in ''Feminist Perspectives on Child Law'', ed. Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk (London: Cavendish, 2000).<ref>[http://library.lol/main/676071FAB671AE21153A9D87680FFC37 Feminist Perspectives on Child Law PDF]</ref>
	*[[Wikipedia:Carol Tavris\|Carol Tavris]], Beware the Incest-Survivor Machine, in the ''New York Times'' (1993)<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20150419234012/https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html?pagewanted=1</ref>; Tavris, The uproar over sexual abuse research and its findings, in ''Society'' (2000).<ref>https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/00-018_uproar.htm</ref> [Responds to the [[Rind_et_al\|Rind et al controversy]]].		*[[Wikipedia:Carol Tavris\|Carol Tavris]], Beware the Incest-Survivor Machine, in the ''New York Times'' (1993)<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20150419234012/https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html?pagewanted=1</ref>; Tavris, The uproar over sexual abuse research and its findings, in ''Society'' (2000).<ref>https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/00-018_uproar.htm</ref> [Responds to the [[Rind_et_al\|Rind et al controversy]]].

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	*[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove''] - This anthology (2019) collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, age-gap relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people, women, lesbians, and feminist, from the late 70s to the mid-90s.		*[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove''] - This anthology (2019) collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, age-gap relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people, women, lesbians, and feminist, from the late 70s to the mid-90s.
	*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people's voices agency		*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people's voices and agency
	*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).<ref>[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]</ref>		*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).<ref>[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]</ref>
	*Danielle Egan, Becoming Sexual: A Critical Appraisal of the Sexualization of Girls (Cambridge: Polity Press, 2013) (Book)<ref>[http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=15C2F2D9BE951828DE35ADF89A61552B Becoming Sexual (Book) on libgen]</ref>.		*Danielle Egan, Becoming Sexual: A Critical Appraisal of the Sexualization of Girls (Cambridge: Polity Press, 2013) (Book)<ref>[http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=15C2F2D9BE951828DE35ADF89A61552B Becoming Sexual (Book) on libgen]</ref>.

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	''At what age is consent to sexual relations permissible? Indeed, the views on this matter are quite diverse, and they differ according to country and gender, according to whether the law seeks to end sexual trafficking, whether the law is acknowledging customs regarding child brides, and whether the kind of sex is permissible or not: So age of consent laws vary according to whether sexual practice is deemed heterosexual or homosexual, or within marriage or before marriage. In most cases, sexuality is presumed by such legal codes to be heterosexual, so the lack of a differential regulation between straight and not straight sex is less a sign of equal treatment, than of the unthinkability of non-heterosexual law within the legal codes regulating sexuality — after all, even prohibiting homosexual sex is a way of acknowledging that it exists.'' (p. 5).		''At what age is consent to sexual relations permissible? Indeed, the views on this matter are quite diverse, and they differ according to country and gender, according to whether the law seeks to end sexual trafficking, whether the law is acknowledging customs regarding child brides, and whether the kind of sex is permissible or not: So age of consent laws vary according to whether sexual practice is deemed heterosexual or homosexual, or within marriage or before marriage. In most cases, sexuality is presumed by such legal codes to be heterosexual, so the lack of a differential regulation between straight and not straight sex is less a sign of equal treatment, than of the unthinkability of non-heterosexual law within the legal codes regulating sexuality — after all, even prohibiting homosexual sex is a way of acknowledging that it exists.'' (p. 5).

	"''We are used to hearing that there are [[consent]]ing adults and then there are those who are incompetent to consent. But perhaps incompetence is part of the very process of "yes"-saying. We are not competent to know all the future consequences of the sexual relations to which we say "yes," or to which we willingly or ambivalently acquiesce. We are never fully active, knowing, and competently predictive at such. moments. We open, sometimes in spite of ourselves, to a future we cannot fully control, even though we can steer and direct and try to give it shape in one way or another to the best or our abilities. Perhaps the opposite of the subject of consent is not the subject who is too young or too inexperienced or suffering incompetence. Although there are cases where that is legally right, to be sure, we have to remember that something of childhood persists in adult sexuality, making us more vulnerable or less knowing than we might like, that a certain incompetence pervades our efforts to predict in advance how things will go, and that even a certain inexperience is there at the outset of sexual encounter and in its midst. The juridical ''[legal]'' subject of [[consent]] rules out the humility of unknowingness without which we cannot really understand sexuality. We can, as the former Antioch College rules of sexual conduct tried to do, make every sexual act discussable between two people in advance and a settled matter of consent before embarking on any touch. At such moments, the law has pervaded sexual encounter; the law has drenched our discourse. We expect knowingness precisely at those moments when unknowingness is inseparable from sexuality itself. The law then functions as a defense against the unknown, and tell me: who would have sex if it were really known in advance exactly what it would be like?'' (pp. 24-25).		"''We are used to hearing that there are [[consent]]ing adults and then there are those who are incompetent to consent. But perhaps incompetence is part of the very process of "yes"-saying. We are not competent to know all the future consequences of the sexual relations to which we say "yes," or to which we willingly or ambivalently acquiesce. We are never fully active, knowing, and competently predictive at such moments. We open, sometimes in spite of ourselves, to a future we cannot fully control, even though we can steer and direct and try to give it shape in one way or another to the best or our abilities. Perhaps the opposite of the subject of consent is not the subject who is too young or too inexperienced or suffering incompetence. Although there are cases where that is legally right, to be sure, we have to remember that something of childhood persists in adult sexuality, making us more vulnerable or less knowing than we might like, that a certain incompetence pervades our efforts to predict in advance how things will go, and that even a certain inexperience is there at the outset of sexual encounter and in its midst. The juridical ''[legal]'' subject of [[consent]] rules out the humility of unknowingness without which we cannot really understand sexuality. We can, as the former Antioch College rules of sexual conduct tried to do, make every sexual act discussable between two people in advance and a settled matter of consent before embarking on any touch. At such moments, the law has pervaded sexual encounter; the law has drenched our discourse. We expect knowingness precisely at those moments when unknowingness is inseparable from sexuality itself. The law then functions as a defense against the unknown, and tell me: who would have sex if it were really known in advance exactly what it would be like?'' (pp. 24-25).

	'''Judith Butler'''. (2011). 'Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law', in ''Columbia Journal of Gender and Law'', Vol. 21 No. 2, pp. 3-27.<ref>[[File:Judith_Butler_-_2011_-_Sexual_Consent_-_Psychoanalysis_and_Law.pdf\|Archived PDF of Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law]] (internal link). This paper is based on a paper presented in 2011, which was filmed and has been archived [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10j9 here] and [https://vimeo.com/22547545 here].</ref>		'''Judith Butler'''. (2011). 'Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law', in ''Columbia Journal of Gender and Law'', Vol. 21 No. 2, pp. 3-27.<ref>[[File:Judith_Butler_-_2011_-_Sexual_Consent_-_Psychoanalysis_and_Law.pdf\|Archived PDF of Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law]] (internal link). This paper is based on a paper presented in 2011, which was filmed and has been archived [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10j9 here] and [https://vimeo.com/22547545 here].</ref>

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	Whilst many of these grievances may have more than a firm foothold in reality, it can certainly be said that their airing has done little good for the cause of [[boylove]] or MAPs in general.		Whilst many of these grievances may have more than a firm foothold in reality, it can certainly be said that their airing has done little good for the cause of [[boylove]] or MAPs in general.

			===MAP-Exclusionary Radical Feminism===

			A solution to the MAP/Feminism paradox might be to define a group of radical feminists who are particularly hostile towards MAPs, or motivated by hate. For example, in setting out care guidelines for survivors of CSA, [[UNICEF]] states "incest and '''paedophilia''' are forms of child sexual abuse shaped and perpetuated by patriarchal systems and harmful masculine ideologies"<ref>[https://www.unicef.org/media/155226/file/CCS%20Guidelines%20Final%20.pdf CARING FOR CHILD SURVIVORS OF SEXUAL ABUSE GUIDELINES (2nd Ed)]</ref> (our emphasis), referencing Kelly and Lusk's 1992 "theories of pedophilia". This would be a clear use of feminist ideology to attack or malign an [[pedophilia\|identity group]] or sexual orientation.

	==Pro-choice/pro-youth Feminism reading list==		==Pro-choice/pro-youth Feminism reading list==

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	Other feminist writers of interest are listed below:		Other feminist writers of interest are listed below:

			*[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove''] - This anthology (2019) collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, age-gap relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people, women, lesbians, and feminist, from the late 70s to the mid-90s.
	*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people's voices agency		*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people's voices agency
	*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).<ref>[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]</ref>		*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).<ref>[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]</ref>

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	===Resisting Anti-Porn Feminism===		===Resisting Anti-Porn Feminism===

	Some feminist thought supportive of intergenerational rights came during what anthropologist Gayle Rubin called "The Feminist Sex Wars," where sex-positive feminists (e.g. Strossen<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/1073402 Strossen 1993]</ref>,; Echols<ref>[https://doi.org/10.2307/466453 Echols, 1983]</ref>) resisted attempts to legally define all pornography as tantamount to rape (see [[Debate_Guide:_Porn_is_the_theory,_rape_is_its_practise\|"Porn is the theory, rape is its practise"]] and West<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828376 West, 1987]</ref>; Linz et al.<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828377 Linz, 1987]</ref>; Schauer<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828378 Schauer, 1987]</ref>; <ref>[https://openyls.law.yale.edu/handle/20.500.13051/7029 Fischel, 2010]</ref>) and prohibit/criminalize sex work (such feminists are now called "SWERFs"<ref>[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SWERF) SWERF - Wiktionary]</ref>) under the banner of "feminism." Some relevant readings below:		Some feminist thought supportive of intergenerational rights came during what anthropologist [[Gayle Rubin]] called "The Feminist Sex Wars," where sex-positive feminists (e.g. Strossen<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/1073402 Strossen 1993]</ref>,; Echols<ref>[https://doi.org/10.2307/466453 Echols, 1983]</ref>) resisted attempts to legally define all pornography as tantamount to rape (see [[Debate_Guide:_Porn_is_the_theory,_rape_is_its_practise\|"Porn is the theory, rape is its practise"]] and West<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828376 West, 1987]</ref>; Linz et al.<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828377 Linz, 1987]</ref>; Schauer<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828378 Schauer, 1987]</ref>; <ref>[https://openyls.law.yale.edu/handle/20.500.13051/7029 Fischel, 2010]</ref>) and prohibit/criminalize sex work (such feminists are now called "SWERFs"<ref>[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SWERF) SWERF - Wiktionary]</ref>) under the banner of "feminism." Some relevant readings below:

	*Nettie Pollard, 'The Small Matter of Children,' in ''Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism'', ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111.		*Nettie Pollard, 'The Small Matter of Children,' in ''Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism'', ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111.

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	''Children cannot be wholly self-determining as long as factors like parental unemployment, poverty, or homelessness force them into prostitution or pornography. And they cannot exercise satisfactory self-determination without adequate sex education. Women and homosexuals, as well as children and child-lovers, are oppressed by the view that procreational sex is the only erotic activity that rates the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. ''[...]'' But this view cannot survive the economic pressure for fewer children and the technocracy's demand for less, but better educated workers.'' (p. 114).		''Children cannot be wholly self-determining as long as factors like parental unemployment, poverty, or homelessness force them into prostitution or pornography. And they cannot exercise satisfactory self-determination without adequate sex education. Women and homosexuals, as well as children and child-lovers, are oppressed by the view that procreational sex is the only erotic activity that rates the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval. ''[...]'' But this view cannot survive the economic pressure for fewer children and the technocracy's demand for less, but better educated workers.'' (p. 114).

	'''Beatrice Faust''', (1986). 'The paedophiles', in ''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'', ed. by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.<ref>[https://~~ianpace~~.~~wordpress.com~~/~~2014/07/05/betrayal-of-youth-1986-including-the-contributions-of-middleton-owens-faust-tatchell~~/ ~~Beatrice~~ Faust, (1986). 'The paedophiles', in ''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'', ~~ed.~~ by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.]</ref>		'''Beatrice Faust''', (1986). 'The paedophiles', in [[The_Betrayal_of_Youth_(Book)\|''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'']], ed. by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.<ref>[https://library.lol/main/D3E65600BCD53F898EE99AEBF6BCBC24 Faust, B. (1986). 'The paedophiles', in ''The Betrayal of Youth: Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'', Edited by Warren Middleton (CL Publications: London), pp. 107-115.]</ref>
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	{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].		{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].

	Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)\|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".		Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)\|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Nina Power]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".

	At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).		At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).

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	{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].		{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality\|equality]].

	Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".		Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust\|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)\|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive".

	At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).		At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism\|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation\|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent\|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).