Feminism - Revision history

https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Feminism Feminism - Revision history 2026-06-13T11:28:36Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=34461&oldid=prev Prue at 13:31, 18 May 2026 2026-05-18T13:31:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:31, 18 May 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.<ref>[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]</ref> 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020<ref>See Aya Gruber, ''The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women's Liberation in Mass Incarceration'' (University of California Press, 2020).</ref>, etc.).<ref>Amia Srinivasan, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_to_Sex ''The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century''] (2021), pp. 170-71. [See [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1583018.htm quote on Boychat]].</ref> It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women's magazine ''Off Our Backs'' [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. For a well-read and articulate feminist critique of common [[pro-c]] arguments, see the work of Sheila Jeffreys.<ref>See ‘PAEDOPHILIA’, in ''Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution'' (1990), pp. 134-149.; CHAPTER 5 The Paedophile Liberation Movement, in ''Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women's Subordination'' (2022).</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.<ref>[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]</ref> 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020<ref>See Aya Gruber, ''The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women's Liberation in Mass Incarceration'' (University of California Press, 2020).</ref>, etc.).<ref>Amia Srinivasan, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_to_Sex ''The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century''] (<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Bloomsbury, </ins>2021), pp. 170-71. [See [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1583018.htm quote on Boychat<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]. [See [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/cb5d9c5ddef6afa61be6949bdac044d2 Annas Archive for PDF link</ins>]].</ref> It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women's magazine ''Off Our Backs'' [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. For a well-read and articulate feminist critique of common [[pro-c]] arguments, see the work of Sheila Jeffreys.<ref>See ‘PAEDOPHILIA’, in ''Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution'' (1990), pp. 134-149.; CHAPTER 5 The Paedophile Liberation Movement, in ''Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women's Subordination'' (2022).</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs==</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 13:30, 18 May 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.<ref>[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]</ref> 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020<ref>See Aya Gruber, ''The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women's Liberation in Mass Incarceration'' (University of California Press, 2020).</ref>). It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women's magazine ''Off Our Backs'' [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. For a well-read and articulate feminist critique of common [[pro-c]] arguments, see the work of Sheila Jeffreys.<ref>See ‘PAEDOPHILIA’, in ''Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution'' (1990), pp. 134-149.; CHAPTER 5 The Paedophile Liberation Movement, in ''Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women's Subordination'' (2022).</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.<ref>[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]</ref> 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020<ref>See Aya Gruber, ''The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women's Liberation in Mass Incarceration'' (University of California Press, 2020).</ref><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, etc.).<ref>Amia Srinivasan, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Right_to_Sex ''The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century''] (2021</ins>)<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, pp. 170-71. [See [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1583018.htm quote on Boychat]]</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ref> </ins>It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women's magazine ''Off Our Backs'' [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. For a well-read and articulate feminist critique of common [[pro-c]] arguments, see the work of Sheila Jeffreys.<ref>See ‘PAEDOPHILIA’, in ''Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution'' (1990), pp. 134-149.; CHAPTER 5 The Paedophile Liberation Movement, in ''Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women's Subordination'' (2022).</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs==</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span class="autocomment">Resisting Anti-Porn Feminism</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 14:09, 29 April 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l175">Line 175:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 175:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Some feminist thought supportive of intergenerational rights came during what anthropologist [[Gayle Rubin]] called "The Feminist Sex Wars," where sex-positive feminists (e.g. Strossen<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/1073402 Strossen 1993]</ref>,; Echols<ref>[https://doi.org/10.2307/466453 Echols, 1983]</ref>) resisted attempts to legally define all pornography as tantamount to rape (see [[Debate_Guide:_Porn_is_the_theory,_rape_is_its_practise|"Porn is the theory, rape is its practise"]] and West<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828376 West, 1987]</ref>; Linz et al.<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828377 Linz, 1987]</ref>; Schauer<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828378 Schauer, 1987]</ref>; <ref>[https://openyls.law.yale.edu/handle/20.500.13051/7029 Fischel, 2010]</ref>) and prohibit/criminalize sex work (such feminists are now called "SWERFs"<ref>[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SWERF) SWERF - Wiktionary]</ref>) under the banner of "feminism." Some relevant readings below: </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Some feminist thought supportive of intergenerational rights came during what anthropologist [[Gayle Rubin]] called "The Feminist Sex Wars," where sex-positive feminists (e.g. Strossen<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/1073402 Strossen 1993]</ref>,; Echols<ref>[https://doi.org/10.2307/466453 Echols, 1983]</ref>) resisted attempts to legally define all pornography as tantamount to rape (see [[Debate_Guide:_Porn_is_the_theory,_rape_is_its_practise|"Porn is the theory, rape is its practise"]] and West<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828376 West, 1987]</ref>; Linz et al.<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828377 Linz, 1987]</ref>; Schauer<ref>[https://www.jstor.org/stable/828378 Schauer, 1987]</ref>; <ref>[https://openyls.law.yale.edu/handle/20.500.13051/7029 Fischel, 2010]</ref>) and prohibit/criminalize sex work (such feminists are now called "SWERFs"<ref>[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/SWERF) SWERF - Wiktionary]</ref>) under the banner of "feminism." Some relevant readings below: </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Nettie Pollard, 'The Small Matter of Children,' in ''Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism'', ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Nettie Pollard, 'The Small Matter of Children,' in ''Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism'', ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993), pp. 105-111.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><ref>''Bad Girls and Dirty Pictures: The Challenge to Reclaim Feminism'', ed. by Alison Assiter and Avedon Carol (Boulder, Colorado: Pluto Press, 1993). [[https://www.jstor.org/stable/jj.38401871.21 Jstor] link]. [[https://annas-archive.gl/md5/38138de0c0ef229d5cd9075b1661275a Annas Archive PDF] link].</ref></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Brenda Cossman, Shannon Bell, Lise Gotell, Becki Ross, ''Bad Attitude/s on Trial: Pornography, Feminism, and the Butler Decision'' (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1997). [[Shannon Bell]]'s chapter, ''The image cannot be seen'', includes her interview with [[Matthew McGowan]], a Canadian hustler and poet who stood trial for having filmed himself and 2 male friends who were 14-years-old and thus had reached the national [[age of consent]] at the time, engaging in [[Research:_Secondary_Harm#Self-appraisal_of_abuse,_Self-Perception_and_"Consent"|mutually willing (consensual)]] vanilla sex the year prior, when McGowan was 22 years-old. Canadian law changed to make depictions of sexual activity involving people who appear to be under 18 illegal, meaning that their sex was legal but filming was not. In her chapter, Bell interprets Canada's then-recent change in porn law through the lens of moral panic, and criticizes the obfuscation, denial and silencing of young people's voices by 'expert' truth claims:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Brenda Cossman, Shannon Bell, Lise Gotell, Becki Ross, ''Bad Attitude/s on Trial: Pornography, Feminism, and the Butler Decision'' (Toronto: University of Toronto Press, 1997). [[Shannon Bell]]'s chapter, ''The image cannot be seen'', includes her interview with [[Matthew McGowan]], a Canadian hustler and poet who stood trial for having filmed himself and 2 male friends who were 14-years-old and thus had reached the national [[age of consent]] at the time, engaging in [[Research:_Secondary_Harm#Self-appraisal_of_abuse,_Self-Perception_and_"Consent"|mutually willing (consensual)]] vanilla sex the year prior, when McGowan was 22 years-old. Canadian law changed to make depictions of sexual activity involving people who appear to be under 18 illegal, meaning that their sex was legal but filming was not. In her chapter, Bell interprets Canada's then-recent change in porn law through the lens of moral panic, and criticizes the obfuscation, denial and silencing of young people's voices by 'expert' truth claims:</div></td></tr> </table>

Prue https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=34240&oldid=prev Prue at 04:24, 28 April 2026 2026-04-28T04:24:23Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 04:24, 28 April 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5">Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.<ref>[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]</ref> 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020<ref>See Aya Gruber, ''The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women's Liberation in Mass Incarceration'' (University of California Press, 2020).</ref>). It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women's magazine ''Off Our Backs'' [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The influence of sex-positive and anti-carceral feminism remains marginal in comparison to the dominance of carceral feminism (Angela Davis et al.<ref>[http://library.lol/main/018C1834DB2D87853010DEB45DC25067 Abolition. Feminism. Now.]</ref> 2022; Aya Gruber, 2020<ref>See Aya Gruber, ''The Feminist War on Crime: The Unexpected Role of Women's Liberation in Mass Incarceration'' (University of California Press, 2020).</ref>). It could be said that the loathing felt by some [[Minor Attracted People|MAPs]], particularly [[boylovers]] towards feminists as a group is similar in magnitude to the derision which present day feminists show towards boy-attracted males. For an account of activism against the MAP-youth rights organization NAMBLA, written by a self-identified feminist, see the 1992 issue of Women's magazine ''Off Our Backs'' [[Media:Off_Our_Backs_-_1992_-_Anti-NAMBLA_Activism.pdf|here]]. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For a well-read and articulate feminist critique of common [[pro-c]] arguments, see the work of Sheila Jeffreys.<ref>See ‘PAEDOPHILIA’, in ''Anticlimax: A Feminist Perspective on the Sexual Revolution'' (1990), pp. 134-149.; CHAPTER 5 The Paedophile Liberation Movement, in ''Penile Imperialism: The Male Sex Right and Women's Subordination'' (2022).</ref></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Reasons for loathing of "feminism" among MAPs==</div></td></tr> </table>

Prue https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=33706&oldid=prev Prue at 02:00, 23 January 2026 2026-01-23T02:00:40Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:00, 23 January 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l217">Line 217:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 217:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Deborah L. Tolman, ‘Doing Desire: Adolescent Girls’ Struggles for/with Sexuality’, in Gender and Society, 8:3 (1994), 324–342.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Deborah L. Tolman, ‘Doing Desire: Adolescent Girls’ Struggles for/with Sexuality’, in Gender and Society, 8:3 (1994), 324–342.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Laina Y. Bay-Cheng and Amanda E. Lewis, 'Our “Ideal Girl”: Prescriptions of Female Adolescent Sexuality in a Feminist Mentorship Program', in Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work, 21:1 (2006), 71-83.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0886109905283137</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Laina Y. Bay-Cheng and Amanda E. Lewis, 'Our “Ideal Girl”: Prescriptions of Female Adolescent Sexuality in a Feminist Mentorship Program', in Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work, 21:1 (2006), 71-83.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0886109905283137</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*Nancy Whittier, ''The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State'' (Oxford University Press, 2011).<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Child-Sexual-Abuse-Movements/dp/0199783314 Nancy Whittier, ''The Politics of Child Sexual Abuse: Emotion, Social Movements, and the State'' (Oxford University Press, 2011).]</ref> </ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.1215/10407391-7481204 Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.]</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.<ref>[https://doi.org/10.1215/10407391-7481204 Joseph J. Fischel, 'Catharine MacKinnon’s Wayward Children', in ''differences'', 30:1 (2019), pp. 34-54.]</ref> </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Feona Attwood, ‘Sluts and Riot Grrrls: Female Identity and Sexual Agency’, in Journal of Gender Studies, 16:3 (2007), 233–247.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Feona Attwood, ‘Sluts and Riot Grrrls: Female Identity and Sexual Agency’, in Journal of Gender Studies, 16:3 (2007), 233–247.</div></td></tr> </table>

Prue https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=30860&oldid=prev Prue at 09:14, 1 February 2025 2025-02-01T09:14:40Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 09:14, 1 February 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality|equality]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality|equality]].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, </del>the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive". </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)|Cindy Patton]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]], [[Nina Power</ins>]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive". </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:25, 1 January 2025</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality|equality]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>{{Template:Adj}}__NOTOC__'''Feminism''' is a belief-system based on a purported anti-oppression point of view as applied to the contemporary situation of women and historical abuses faced by women and other minorities. The feminist discourse is particularly concerned with equal rights, and in some cases, outright [[inequality|equality]].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive". </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Many of the most influential feminists of the 20th century have made supportive statements about minor-older erotic behavior, including [[Gayle Rubin]], [[Germaine Greer]], [[Kate Millett]], [[Simone de Beauvoir]], [[Shulamith Firestone]], [[Judith Butler]], and [[Andrea Dworkin]]. Whilst some other sex-positive and/or dissident feminists such as [[Jane Rule]], [[Camille Paglia]], [[Patrick Califia]], [[Nettie Pollard]], [[Judith Levine]], [[Yasmin Nair]], [[Beatrice_Faust|Beatrice Faust<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]], [[Essay:Our Sexuality, Ourselves (Review of The Age Taboo in Gay Community News)|Cindy Patton</ins>]], [[Stevi Jackson]], [[Katharina Rutschky]], [[Heather Corinna]], [[Janice Irvine]], [[Sharon Lamb]] and [[Carol Tavris]], elaborate contrarian philosophies and anecdotes on the issue of adult-minor sexuality, since the 1970s, the discourse has been increasingly used to condemn such sexual relationships on the basis that inequalities render them universally "abusive". </div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>At present, adjacent movements such as pro-sex work, sex-positive, and [[Wikipedia:Carceral feminism|anti-carceral]] feminism are more likely to hold positions that pro-choice MAP and youth rights activists may hold, including the recognition that [[Research:_Commercial_and_online_sexual_exploitation|minors choose and want]] to engage in sex and sex work, and that prisons and public registration for lawbreakers are ineffective strategies for reducing the incidence of unlawful erotic behavior, especially when law makes no distinctions between mutually willing eroticism and unwanted, violent assaults, and criminalizes minors for [[consent|consensual]] erotic activity with other minors (Levine and Meiners<ref>[http://library.lol/main/13B331C61A42685FEE3ECF8BD1F0BD99 The Feminist and the Sex Offender]</ref> 2020; Taylor<ref>[https://wapercyfoundation.org/?page_id=1086 News & Resources: review – Taylor: ‘Foucault, Feminism, & Sex Crimes’]</ref> 2018).</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:52, 12 December 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l223">Line 223:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 223:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Michelle Fine, Sexuality, Schooling, and Adolescent Females: The Missing Discourse of Desire, in Harvard Educational Review, 58:1 (1988), 29–54<ref>https://doi.org/10.17763/haer.58.1.u0468k1v2n2n8242</ref>; Cf. Fine, X. Desire: The Morning (and 15 years) After, in Feminism & Psychology, 15:1 (2005), 54-60.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0959353505049708</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Michelle Fine, Sexuality, Schooling, and Adolescent Females: The Missing Discourse of Desire, in Harvard Educational Review, 58:1 (1988), 29–54<ref>https://doi.org/10.17763/haer.58.1.u0468k1v2n2n8242</ref>; Cf. Fine, X. Desire: The Morning (and 15 years) After, in Feminism & Psychology, 15:1 (2005), 54-60.<ref>https://doi.org/10.1177/0959353505049708</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Lynda Marin, Mother and Child: The Erotic Bond, in ''Mother's Journeys: Feminists Write about Mothering'', ed. by Maureen T. Reddy, Martha Roth, Amy Sheldon, (Spinsters Ink, Minneapolis, 1994), pp. 9-21.<ref>http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/MaCTEB.html</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Lynda Marin, Mother and Child: The Erotic Bond, in ''Mother's Journeys: Feminists Write about Mothering'', ed. by Maureen T. Reddy, Martha Roth, Amy Sheldon, (Spinsters Ink, Minneapolis, 1994), pp. 9-21.<ref>http://www.ratical.org/many_worlds/MaCTEB.html</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Marjan Sax and Sjuul Deckwitz, 'You Learn Better on An Old Bicycle: Erotic and Sexual Relations Between Women and Minors', in ''[[Paidika]]: The Journal of Paedophilia'', Vol. 2, No. 4 (1992): Special Women's lssue, pp. 2-13. [Newgon: Marjan Sax is listed as a "feminst sex activist, political scientist, and writer"].</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>Marjan Sax<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>and Sjuul Deckwitz, 'You Learn Better on An Old Bicycle: Erotic and Sexual Relations Between Women and Minors', in ''[[Paidika]]: The Journal of Paedophilia'', Vol. 2, No. 4 (1992): Special Women's lssue, pp. 2-13. [Newgon: Marjan Sax is listed as a "feminst sex activist, political scientist, and writer"].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk, “Introduction: Reflections on the Relationship between Feminism and Child Law,” in ''Feminist Perspectives on Child Law'', ed. Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk (London: Cavendish, 2000).<ref>[http://library.lol/main/676071FAB671AE21153A9D87680FFC37 Feminist Perspectives on Child Law PDF]</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk, “Introduction: Reflections on the Relationship between Feminism and Child Law,” in ''Feminist Perspectives on Child Law'', ed. Jo Bridgeman and Daniel Monk (London: Cavendish, 2000).<ref>[http://library.lol/main/676071FAB671AE21153A9D87680FFC37 Feminist Perspectives on Child Law PDF]</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Wikipedia:Carol Tavris|Carol Tavris]], Beware the Incest-Survivor Machine, in the ''New York Times'' (1993)<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20150419234012/https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html?pagewanted=1</ref>; Tavris, The uproar over sexual abuse research and its findings, in ''Society'' (2000).<ref>https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/00-018_uproar.htm</ref> [Responds to the [[Rind_et_al|Rind et al controversy]]].</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Wikipedia:Carol Tavris|Carol Tavris]], Beware the Incest-Survivor Machine, in the ''New York Times'' (1993)<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20150419234012/https://www.nytimes.com/1993/01/03/books/beware-the-incest-survivor-machine.html?pagewanted=1</ref>; Tavris, The uproar over sexual abuse research and its findings, in ''Society'' (2000).<ref>https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/00-018_uproar.htm</ref> [Responds to the [[Rind_et_al|Rind et al controversy]]].</div></td></tr> </table>

Prue https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=29985&oldid=prev Prue at 00:51, 12 December 2024 2024-12-12T00:51:04Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:51, 12 December 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l206">Line 206:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 206:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove''] - This anthology (2019) collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, age-gap relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people, women, lesbians, and feminist, from the late 70s to the mid-90s.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C Kids Club Anthology #2 - ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove''] - This anthology (2019) collects material on sexual attraction to youth, youth sexuality, age-gap relationships, and the age of consent written by young gay people, women, lesbians, and feminist, from the late 70s to the mid-90s.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people's voices agency</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Danielle Egan, Gail Hawkes, and Emma Renold - these 3 contemporary feminists tend to co-author together, criticizing panic discourses over the [[sexualization]] of young people that neglect to take account of young people's voices <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">and </ins>agency</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).<ref>[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Children, Sexuality and Sexualization, ed. by Emma Renold et al., (Basingstoke: Palgrave Macmillan, 2015).<ref>[https://archive.org/details/renold-sexualization Children, Sexuality and Sexualization]</ref></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Danielle Egan, Becoming Sexual: A Critical Appraisal of the Sexualization of Girls (Cambridge: Polity Press, 2013) (Book)<ref>[http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=15C2F2D9BE951828DE35ADF89A61552B Becoming Sexual (Book) on libgen]</ref>.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*Danielle Egan, Becoming Sexual: A Critical Appraisal of the Sexualization of Girls (Cambridge: Polity Press, 2013) (Book)<ref>[http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=15C2F2D9BE951828DE35ADF89A61552B Becoming Sexual (Book) on libgen]</ref>.</div></td></tr> </table>

Prue https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Feminism&diff=29984&oldid=prev Prue at 00:50, 12 December 2024 2024-12-12T00:50:12Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:50, 12 December 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l198">Line 198:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 198:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''At what age is consent to sexual relations permissible? Indeed, the views on this matter are quite diverse, and they differ according to country and gender, according to whether the law seeks to end sexual trafficking, whether the law is acknowledging customs regarding child brides, and whether the kind of sex is permissible or not: So age of consent laws vary according to whether sexual practice is deemed heterosexual or homosexual, or within marriage or before marriage. In most cases, sexuality is presumed by such legal codes to be heterosexual, so the lack of a differential regulation between straight and not straight sex is less a sign of equal treatment, than of the unthinkability of non-heterosexual law within the legal codes regulating sexuality — after all, even prohibiting homosexual sex is a way of acknowledging that it exists.'' (p. 5).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>''At what age is consent to sexual relations permissible? Indeed, the views on this matter are quite diverse, and they differ according to country and gender, according to whether the law seeks to end sexual trafficking, whether the law is acknowledging customs regarding child brides, and whether the kind of sex is permissible or not: So age of consent laws vary according to whether sexual practice is deemed heterosexual or homosexual, or within marriage or before marriage. In most cases, sexuality is presumed by such legal codes to be heterosexual, so the lack of a differential regulation between straight and not straight sex is less a sign of equal treatment, than of the unthinkability of non-heterosexual law within the legal codes regulating sexuality — after all, even prohibiting homosexual sex is a way of acknowledging that it exists.'' (p. 5).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"''We are used to hearing that there are [[consent]]ing adults and then there are those who are incompetent to consent. But perhaps incompetence is part of the very process of "yes"-saying. We are not competent to know all the future consequences of the sexual relations to which we say "yes," or to which we willingly or ambivalently acquiesce. We are never fully active, knowing, and competently predictive at such<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. </del>moments. We open, sometimes in spite of ourselves, to a future we cannot fully control, even though we can steer and direct and try to give it shape in one way or another to the best or our abilities. Perhaps the opposite of the subject of consent is not the subject who is too young or too inexperienced or suffering incompetence. Although there are cases where that is legally right, to be sure, we have to remember that something of childhood persists in adult sexuality, making us more vulnerable or less knowing than we might like, that a certain incompetence pervades our efforts to predict in advance how things will go, and that even a certain inexperience is there at the outset of sexual encounter and in its midst. The juridical ''[legal]'' subject of [[consent]] rules out the humility of unknowingness without which we cannot really understand sexuality. We can, as the former Antioch College rules of sexual conduct tried to do, make every sexual act discussable between two people in advance and a settled matter of consent before embarking on any touch. At such moments, the law has pervaded sexual encounter; the law has drenched our discourse. We expect knowingness precisely at those moments when unknowingness is inseparable from sexuality itself. The law then functions as a defense against the unknown, and tell me: who would have sex if it were really known in advance exactly what it would be like?'' (pp. 24-25).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>"''We are used to hearing that there are [[consent]]ing adults and then there are those who are incompetent to consent. But perhaps incompetence is part of the very process of "yes"-saying. We are not competent to know all the future consequences of the sexual relations to which we say "yes," or to which we willingly or ambivalently acquiesce. We are never fully active, knowing, and competently predictive at such moments. We open, sometimes in spite of ourselves, to a future we cannot fully control, even though we can steer and direct and try to give it shape in one way or another to the best or our abilities. Perhaps the opposite of the subject of consent is not the subject who is too young or too inexperienced or suffering incompetence. Although there are cases where that is legally right, to be sure, we have to remember that something of childhood persists in adult sexuality, making us more vulnerable or less knowing than we might like, that a certain incompetence pervades our efforts to predict in advance how things will go, and that even a certain inexperience is there at the outset of sexual encounter and in its midst. The juridical ''[legal]'' subject of [[consent]] rules out the humility of unknowingness without which we cannot really understand sexuality. We can, as the former Antioch College rules of sexual conduct tried to do, make every sexual act discussable between two people in advance and a settled matter of consent before embarking on any touch. At such moments, the law has pervaded sexual encounter; the law has drenched our discourse. We expect knowingness precisely at those moments when unknowingness is inseparable from sexuality itself. The law then functions as a defense against the unknown, and tell me: who would have sex if it were really known in advance exactly what it would be like?'' (pp. 24-25).</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Judith Butler'''. (2011). 'Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law', in ''Columbia Journal of Gender and Law'', Vol. 21 No. 2, pp. 3-27.<ref>[[File:Judith_Butler_-_2011_-_Sexual_Consent_-_Psychoanalysis_and_Law.pdf|Archived PDF of Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law]] (internal link). This paper is based on a paper presented in 2011, which was filmed and has been archived [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10j9 here] and [https://vimeo.com/22547545 here].</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Judith Butler'''. (2011). 'Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law', in ''Columbia Journal of Gender and Law'', Vol. 21 No. 2, pp. 3-27.<ref>[[File:Judith_Butler_-_2011_-_Sexual_Consent_-_Psychoanalysis_and_Law.pdf|Archived PDF of Sexual Consent: Some Thoughts on Psychoanalysis and Law]] (internal link). This paper is based on a paper presented in 2011, which was filmed and has been archived [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/10j9 here] and [https://vimeo.com/22547545 here].</ref></div></td></tr> </table>

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