https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unityHistorical examples of LGBT-MAP unity - Revision history2026-04-29T02:33:05ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.45.3https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity&diff=34239&oldid=prevPrue at 04:20, 28 April 20262026-04-28T04:20:41Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>American associations between gay and pedophile groups weren't an exception to the rule. Indeed, in the UK, the largest and most influential organisation in the gay rights movement was the <span style="background:#ffd9e5">Campaign for Homosexual Equality, and they were affiliated with the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] from 1975. In 1977, they hosted their own conference on Pedophilia; leading Dutch pederast [[Edward Brongersma]] was invited to talk</span> (see gallery). In 1983, they showed further solidarity with PIE, after they were denied banking services by the Midland Bank (also in gallery). PIE has been involved in further scandals over its past associations with the civil liberties group NCCL (now ''Liberty'') and various former NCCL members who went on to take political office. Two successive 1978-9 copies of ''Gay Left'' magazine presented a number of radical takes on pedophilia, including a piece from [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]] activist [[Thomas O'Carroll]].<ref>See, for example, [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.07.pdf Gay Left 7], [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.08.pdf Gay Left 8] and support for activists in [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.10.pdf Gay Left 10]</ref> </div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>American associations between gay and pedophile groups weren't an exception to the rule. Indeed, in the UK, the largest and most influential organisation in the gay rights movement was the <span style="background:#ffd9e5">Campaign for Homosexual Equality, and they were affiliated with the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] from 1975. In 1977, they hosted their own conference on Pedophilia; leading Dutch pederast [[Edward Brongersma]] was invited to talk</span> (see gallery). In 1983, they showed further solidarity with PIE, after they were denied banking services by the Midland Bank (also in gallery). PIE has been involved in further scandals over its past associations with the civil liberties group NCCL (now ''Liberty'') and various former NCCL members who went on to take political office. Two successive 1978-9 copies of ''Gay Left'' magazine presented a number of radical takes on pedophilia, including a piece from [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]] activist [[Thomas O'Carroll]].<ref>See, for example, [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.07.pdf Gay Left 7], [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.08.pdf Gay Left 8] and support for activists in [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.10.pdf Gay Left 10]</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Gay activists Bob Cant and Nigel Young wrote in a 1980 book edited by the Gay Left Collective, that conspiracy laws were being used by the UK government to "prosecute members of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) on a charge of conspiracy to corrupt public morals," in just the same way as conspiracy charges were being used to attack the rights of workers.<ref>Bob Cant and Neil Young, ''Homosexuality: Power & Politics'' (Allison & Busby Ltd and Gay Left, 1980), p. 126.</ref> The authors argued that the "hysterical attacks on paedophiles by the state and press" had to be "fought against," as they represented "attempts by all sorts of reactionary groups to define childhood as a state of innocence, which will inevitably turn into heterosexuality at sixteen unless tainted by contact with homosexuals" (''Ibid'', p. 125). In the same book, a chapter by Stephen Gee concerns the ''Gay Activists Alliance'' (GAA) that he helped found, which led a campaign to abolish the [[age of consent]].<ref>See Stephen Gee, in Cant and Young (1980), ''Ibid''.; For the claim about GAA wishing to abolish the age of consent, see London Gay Activists Alliance, ‘Child temptress chased man to bed’, ''Submission to the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure'', April 1979.</ref> Gee argued that there was a "shift to the right in Britain's social and political climate, which has led to a general decline in confidence and activity on the left; the hysteria surrounding pedophilia and child sexuality have a particularly immobilizing effect on the gay movement" (Ibid, pp. 201-202). For him, "We should continue to work at making alliances between women and gay men and other oppressed groups. [...] We need alliances because we face a period of resistance to attacks with little chance of any extension of civil rights. [...] The attack on [[PIE]] is possibly only the beginning of a general undermining of sexual rights and freedoms; it is the state fortifying itself in a battle for the possession and dispossession of children, women and homosexuals. Are we ready?" (Ibid, pp. 203-204).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Gay activists Bob Cant and Nigel Young wrote in a 1980 book edited by the Gay Left Collective, that conspiracy laws were being used by the UK government to "prosecute members of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) on a charge of conspiracy to corrupt public morals," in just the same way as conspiracy charges were being used to attack the rights of workers.<ref>Bob Cant and Neil Young, ''Homosexuality: Power & Politics'' (Allison & Busby Ltd and Gay Left, 1980), p. 126.</ref> The authors argued that the "hysterical attacks on paedophiles by the state and press" had to be "fought against," as they represented "attempts by all sorts of reactionary groups to define childhood as a state of innocence, which will inevitably turn into heterosexuality at sixteen unless tainted by contact with homosexuals" (''Ibid'', p. 125). In the same book, a chapter by Stephen Gee concerns the ''Gay Activists Alliance'' (GAA) that he helped found, which led a campaign to abolish the [[age of consent]].<ref>See Stephen Gee, in Cant and Young (1980), ''Ibid''.; For the claim about GAA wishing to abolish the age of consent, see London Gay Activists Alliance, ‘Child temptress chased man to bed’, ''Submission to the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure'', April 1979.</ref> Gee argued that there was a "shift to the right in Britain's social and political climate, which has led to a general decline in confidence and activity on the left; the hysteria surrounding pedophilia and child sexuality have a particularly immobilizing effect on the gay movement" (<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>Ibid<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>, pp. 201-202). For him, "We should continue to work at making alliances between women and gay men and other oppressed groups. [...] We need alliances because we face a period of resistance to attacks with little chance of any extension of civil rights. [...] The attack on [[PIE]] is possibly only the beginning of a general undermining of sexual rights and freedoms; it is the state fortifying itself in a battle for the possession and dispossession of children, women and homosexuals. Are we ready?" (<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>Ibid<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''</ins>, pp. 203-204).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Sweden's ''Pedophile Working Group'' was part of the LGBT group '''Riksförbundet för Sexuellt Likaberättigande''' - RFSL. In 1983 they sent a petition to the Swedish government demanding [[Age of Consent]] abolition, and in 1993 were accused of publishing a guide to child prostitution abroad, after only rejecting the idea of restarting the workgroup due to social pressure. One journalist writes ''"RFSL explicitly wrote that "the pedophile gives tenderness and love" and that the pedophile should not be considered sick. The man behind these formulations was called Kjell Rindar and was then the confederation chairman of the RFSL. As recently as 2011, he gave the opening speech at Stockholm Pride."''<ref>[https://detgodasamhallet-com.translate.goog/2019/01/02/gastskribent-john-gustavsson-pedofilerna-och-hbtq-rorelsens-morka-historia/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl&_x_tr_pto=wapp ”Pedofilerna och HBTQ-rörelsens mörka historia” i Det goda samhället, 2019-01-02]</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Sweden's ''Pedophile Working Group'' was part of the LGBT group '''Riksförbundet för Sexuellt Likaberättigande''' - RFSL. In 1983 they sent a petition to the Swedish government demanding [[Age of Consent]] abolition, and in 1993 were accused of publishing a guide to child prostitution abroad, after only rejecting the idea of restarting the workgroup due to social pressure. One journalist writes ''"RFSL explicitly wrote that "the pedophile gives tenderness and love" and that the pedophile should not be considered sick. The man behind these formulations was called Kjell Rindar and was then the confederation chairman of the RFSL. As recently as 2011, he gave the opening speech at Stockholm Pride."''<ref>[https://detgodasamhallet-com.translate.goog/2019/01/02/gastskribent-john-gustavsson-pedofilerna-och-hbtq-rorelsens-morka-historia/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl&_x_tr_pto=wapp ”Pedofilerna och HBTQ-rörelsens mörka historia” i Det goda samhället, 2019-01-02]</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By the late 70s, the nascent [[NAMBLA]] (having formed after [[Boston-Boise_affair|another witch hunt against pederasts]]) was already attracting negative attention from some angry Lesbian [[Feminism|Feminists]] and infiltration by the FBI<ref name=deorio/>. In 1980, <span style="background:#ffd9e5">15-year old Gay Youth Activist, Mark Moffett, who had pursued relationships with older men<ref>[https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/califa_aftermath_text.htm The Aftermath of the Great Kiddy-Porn Panic of '77]</ref>, spoke at a rally in Sheridan Square, defending the right of boy-lovers to participate in the movement.</span><ref name="Thorstad" /> His personal testimony, views on the Age of Consent, and that many other young gay people from around the same time have been compiled in the 2019 Kids Club Anthology (Vol. 1).<ref>[https://www.brongersma.info/images/Anthology_01.pdf 2019 - Kids Club Anthology - Youth speak out on youthlove]</ref> Vol. 2, ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove'' (2019), shows similar accounts and perspectives from females.<ref>[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove'' (2019)] - on Libgen.</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>By the late 70s, the nascent [[NAMBLA]] (having formed after [[Boston-Boise_affair|another witch hunt against pederasts]]) was already attracting negative attention from some angry Lesbian [[Feminism|Feminists]] and infiltration by the FBI<ref name=deorio/>. In 1980, <span style="background:#ffd9e5">15-year old Gay Youth Activist, Mark Moffett, who had pursued relationships with older men<ref>[https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/califa_aftermath_text.htm The Aftermath of the Great Kiddy-Porn Panic of '77]</ref>, spoke at a rally in Sheridan Square, defending the right of boy-lovers to participate in the movement.</span><ref name="Thorstad" /> His personal testimony, views on the Age of Consent, and that many other young gay people from around the same time have been compiled in the 2019 Kids Club Anthology (Vol. 1).<ref>[https://www.brongersma.info/images/Anthology_01.pdf 2019 - Kids Club Anthology - Youth speak out on youthlove]</ref> Vol. 2, ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove'' (2019), shows similar accounts and perspectives from females.<ref>[https://library.lol/main/99099C4003BC144DCA222C5D34D84A6C ''She said - Women, Lesbians, and Feminist Speak Out about Youthlove'' (2019)] - on Libgen.</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>American associations between gay and pedophile groups weren't an exception to the rule. Indeed, in the UK, the largest and most influential organisation in the gay rights movement was the <span style="background:#ffd9e5">Campaign for Homosexual Equality, and they were affiliated with the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] from 1975. In 1977, they hosted their own conference on Pedophilia; leading Dutch pederast [[Edward Brongersma]] was invited to talk</span> (see gallery). In 1983, they showed further solidarity with PIE, after they were denied banking services by the Midland Bank (also in gallery). PIE has been involved in further scandals over its past associations with the civil liberties group NCCL (now ''Liberty'') and various former NCCL members who went on to take political office. Two successive 1978-9 copies of ''Gay Left'' magazine presented a number of radical takes on pedophilia, including a piece from [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]] activist [[Thomas O'Carroll]].<ref>See, for example, [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.07.pdf Gay Left 7], [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.08.pdf Gay Left 8] and support for activists in [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.10.pdf Gay Left 10]</ref> Gay activists Bob Cant and Nigel Young wrote in a 1980 book edited by the Gay Left Collective, that conspiracy laws were being used by the UK government to "prosecute members of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) on a charge of conspiracy to corrupt public morals," in just the same way as conspiracy charges were being used to attack the rights of workers.<ref>Bob Cant and Neil Young, ''Homosexuality: Power & Politics'' (Allison & Busby Ltd and Gay Left, 1980), p. 126.</ref> <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Cant and Young </del>argued that the "hysterical attacks on paedophiles by the state and press" had to be "fought against," as they represented "attempts by all sorts of reactionary groups to define childhood as a state of innocence, which will inevitably turn into heterosexuality at sixteen unless tainted by contact with homosexuals" (''Ibid'', p. 125). <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">A </del>chapter by Stephen Gee concerns the ''Gay Activists Alliance'' (GAA) that he helped found, which led <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">the </del>campaign to abolish the [[age of consent]].<ref>See Stephen Gee, in Cant and Young (1980), ''Ibid''.; For the claim about GAA wishing to abolish the age of consent, see London Gay Activists Alliance, ‘Child temptress chased man to bed’, ''Submission to the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure'', April 1979.</ref> Gee argued that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">externally, </del>there was a "shift to the right in Britain's social and political climate, which has led to a general decline in confidence and activity on the left; the hysteria surrounding pedophilia and child sexuality have a particularly immobilizing effect on the gay movement" (Ibid, pp. 201-202). For him, "We should continue to work at making alliances between women and gay men and other oppressed groups. [...] We need alliances because we face a period of resistance to attacks with little chance of any extension of civil rights. [...] The attack on [[PIE]] is possibly only the beginning of a general undermining of sexual rights and freedoms; it is the state fortifying itself in a battle for the possession and dispossession of children, women and homosexuals. Are we ready?" (Ibid, pp. 203-204).</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>American associations between gay and pedophile groups weren't an exception to the rule. Indeed, in the UK, the largest and most influential organisation in the gay rights movement was the <span style="background:#ffd9e5">Campaign for Homosexual Equality, and they were affiliated with the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] from 1975. In 1977, they hosted their own conference on Pedophilia; leading Dutch pederast [[Edward Brongersma]] was invited to talk</span> (see gallery). In 1983, they showed further solidarity with PIE, after they were denied banking services by the Midland Bank (also in gallery). PIE has been involved in further scandals over its past associations with the civil liberties group NCCL (now ''Liberty'') and various former NCCL members who went on to take political office. Two successive 1978-9 copies of ''Gay Left'' magazine presented a number of radical takes on pedophilia, including a piece from [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]] activist [[Thomas O'Carroll]].<ref>See, for example, [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.07.pdf Gay Left 7], [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.08.pdf Gay Left 8] and support for activists in [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.10.pdf Gay Left 10]</ref> </div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Gay activists Bob Cant and Nigel Young wrote in a 1980 book edited by the Gay Left Collective, that conspiracy laws were being used by the UK government to "prosecute members of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) on a charge of conspiracy to corrupt public morals," in just the same way as conspiracy charges were being used to attack the rights of workers.<ref>Bob Cant and Neil Young, ''Homosexuality: Power & Politics'' (Allison & Busby Ltd and Gay Left, 1980), p. 126.</ref> <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The authors </ins>argued that the "hysterical attacks on paedophiles by the state and press" had to be "fought against," as they represented "attempts by all sorts of reactionary groups to define childhood as a state of innocence, which will inevitably turn into heterosexuality at sixteen unless tainted by contact with homosexuals" (''Ibid'', p. 125). <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">In the same book, a </ins>chapter by Stephen Gee concerns the ''Gay Activists Alliance'' (GAA) that he helped found, which led <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">a </ins>campaign to abolish the [[age of consent]].<ref>See Stephen Gee, in Cant and Young (1980), ''Ibid''.; For the claim about GAA wishing to abolish the age of consent, see London Gay Activists Alliance, ‘Child temptress chased man to bed’, ''Submission to the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure'', April 1979.</ref> Gee argued that there was a "shift to the right in Britain's social and political climate, which has led to a general decline in confidence and activity on the left; the hysteria surrounding pedophilia and child sexuality have a particularly immobilizing effect on the gay movement" (Ibid, pp. 201-202). For him, "We should continue to work at making alliances between women and gay men and other oppressed groups. [...] We need alliances because we face a period of resistance to attacks with little chance of any extension of civil rights. [...] The attack on [[PIE]] is possibly only the beginning of a general undermining of sexual rights and freedoms; it is the state fortifying itself in a battle for the possession and dispossession of children, women and homosexuals. Are we ready?" (Ibid, pp. 203-204).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>American associations between gay and pedophile groups weren't an exception to the rule. Indeed, in the UK, the largest and most influential organisation in the gay rights movement was the <span style="background:#ffd9e5">Campaign for Homosexual Equality, and they were affiliated with the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] from 1975. In 1977, they hosted their own conference on Pedophilia; leading Dutch pederast [[Edward Brongersma]] was invited to talk</span> (see gallery). In 1983, they showed further solidarity with PIE, after they were denied banking services by the Midland Bank (also in gallery). PIE has been involved in further scandals over its past associations with the civil liberties group NCCL (now ''Liberty'') and various former NCCL members who went on to take political office. Two successive 1978-9 copies of ''Gay Left'' magazine presented a number of radical takes on pedophilia, including a piece from [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]] activist [[Thomas O'Carroll]].<ref>See, for example, [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.07.pdf Gay Left 7], [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.08.pdf Gay Left 8] and support for activists in [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.10.pdf Gay Left 10]</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>American associations between gay and pedophile groups weren't an exception to the rule. Indeed, in the UK, the largest and most influential organisation in the gay rights movement was the <span style="background:#ffd9e5">Campaign for Homosexual Equality, and they were affiliated with the [[Paedophile Information Exchange]] from 1975. In 1977, they hosted their own conference on Pedophilia; leading Dutch pederast [[Edward Brongersma]] was invited to talk</span> (see gallery). In 1983, they showed further solidarity with PIE, after they were denied banking services by the Midland Bank (also in gallery). PIE has been involved in further scandals over its past associations with the civil liberties group NCCL (now ''Liberty'') and various former NCCL members who went on to take political office. Two successive 1978-9 copies of ''Gay Left'' magazine presented a number of radical takes on pedophilia, including a piece from [[Paedophile Information Exchange|PIE]] activist [[Thomas O'Carroll]].<ref>See, for example, [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.07.pdf Gay Left 7], [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.08.pdf Gay Left 8] and support for activists in [https://web.archive.org/web/20110718212111/http://www.gayleft1970s.org/issues/gay.left_issue.10.pdf Gay Left 10]</ref> <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gay activists Bob Cant and Nigel Young wrote in a 1980 book edited by the Gay Left Collective, that conspiracy laws were being used by the UK government to "prosecute members of the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) on a charge of conspiracy to corrupt public morals," in just the same way as conspiracy charges were being used to attack the rights of workers.<ref>Bob Cant and Neil Young, ''Homosexuality: Power & Politics'' (Allison & Busby Ltd and Gay Left, 1980), p. 126.</ref> Cant and Young argued that the "hysterical attacks on paedophiles by the state and press" had to be "fought against," as they represented "attempts by all sorts of reactionary groups to define childhood as a state of innocence, which will inevitably turn into heterosexuality at sixteen unless tainted by contact with homosexuals" (''Ibid'', p. 125). A chapter by Stephen Gee concerns the ''Gay Activists Alliance'' (GAA) that he helped found, which led the campaign to abolish the [[age of consent]].<ref>See Stephen Gee, in Cant and Young (1980), ''Ibid''.; For the claim about GAA wishing to abolish the age of consent, see London Gay Activists Alliance, ‘Child temptress chased man to bed’, ''Submission to the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure'', April 1979.</ref> Gee argued that externally, there was a "shift to the right in Britain's social and political climate, which has led to a general decline in confidence and activity on the left; the hysteria surrounding pedophilia and child sexuality have a particularly immobilizing effect on the gay movement" (Ibid, pp. 201-202). For him, "We should continue to work at making alliances between women and gay men and other oppressed groups. [...] We need alliances because we face a period of resistance to attacks with little chance of any extension of civil rights. [...] The attack on [[PIE]] is possibly only the beginning of a general undermining of sexual rights and freedoms; it is the state fortifying itself in a battle for the possession and dispossession of children, women and homosexuals. Are we ready?" (Ibid, pp. 203-204).</ins></div></td></tr>
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While LGBT [[Validity Policing]] frequently takes place on social media (and at the same time, many of us do not presently wish to associate with the LGBT Movement), it is still important to point out uncomfortable, widely-acknowledged historical facts.<ref>[https://www.schwulesmuseum.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Protokoll_Distanzierung-ist-noch-keine-Aufarbeitung.pdf Schwules Museum: on Distancing "pedoactivists" and their history with the Gay Movement]</ref> There are also [[Queer Theory|arguments in favor of]] identifying MAPs as "queer", or at least building alliances with others who feel marginalized by or disappointed with the corporate nature of the modern mainstream LGBT community and identity. [[Allyn Walker]], for example, studied 'The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People', finding varied responses and reasons behind MAPs identifying as 'gay', 'queer', and so on. Walker also noted the history of association between MAPs and other queer communities.<ref name="Walkerstad">Walker, A. (2019). “I’m Not like That, So Am I Gay?” The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People, in ''Journal of Homosexuality'', 67:12, pp. 1736-1759. Generally available for free via '''[[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions|OPTION 1]]''' in shadow libraries, doi: 10.1080/00918369.2019.1613856.<small>''"While MAPs often struggle to disclose their attractions to friends and family, LGBT individuals and other queer communities continue to have these struggles as well. Even with this and other commonalities, however, MAPs are not generally accepted by queer communities. This was not always the case. Multiple researchers have explored ties between gay rights organizations and MAPs lasting from the 1960s and declining until, in some cases, the early 1990s (Chenier, 2008; Janssen, 2017; Paternotte, 2014; [https://sci-hub.usualwant.com/10.1300/j082v20n01_15 Thorstad, 1991]). Thorstad (1991) quoted a 1969 article in a gay newspaper as saying, “‘Off the consenting adults bullshit!’” (p. 251). He added, “the Stonewall Generation [...] affirmed the joys of an outlaw sexuality in the face of the outmoded moral norms of the dominant society,” (p. 252), showing acceptance of individuals with attractions to minors."'' (p. 4).</small></ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When LGBT people deny these facts, they may be corrected using the sources here. While LGBT [[Validity Policing]] frequently takes place on social media (and at the same time, many of us do not presently wish to associate with the LGBT Movement), it is still important to point out uncomfortable, widely-acknowledged historical facts.<ref>[https://www.schwulesmuseum.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Protokoll_Distanzierung-ist-noch-keine-Aufarbeitung.pdf Schwules Museum: on Distancing "pedoactivists" and their history with the Gay Movement]</ref> There are also [[Queer Theory|arguments in favor of]] identifying MAPs as "queer", or at least building alliances with others who feel marginalized by or disappointed with the corporate nature of the modern mainstream LGBT community and identity. [[Allyn Walker]], for example, studied 'The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People', finding varied responses and reasons behind MAPs identifying as 'gay', 'queer', and so on. Walker also noted the history of association between MAPs and other queer communities.<ref name="Walkerstad">Walker, A. (2019). “I’m Not like That, So Am I Gay?” The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People, in ''Journal of Homosexuality'', 67:12, pp. 1736-1759. Generally available for free via '''[[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions|OPTION 1]]''' in shadow libraries, doi: 10.1080/00918369.2019.1613856.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><br></ins><small>''"While MAPs often struggle to disclose their attractions to friends and family, LGBT individuals and other queer communities continue to have these struggles as well. Even with this and other commonalities, however, MAPs are not generally accepted by queer communities. This was not always the case. Multiple researchers have explored ties between gay rights organizations and MAPs lasting from the 1960s and declining until, in some cases, the early 1990s (Chenier, 2008; Janssen, 2017; Paternotte, 2014; [https://sci-hub.usualwant.com/10.1300/j082v20n01_15 Thorstad, 1991]). Thorstad (1991) quoted a 1969 article in a gay newspaper as saying, “‘Off the consenting adults bullshit!’” (p. 251). He added, “the Stonewall Generation [...] affirmed the joys of an outlaw sexuality in the face of the outmoded moral norms of the dominant society,” (p. 252), showing acceptance of individuals with attractions to minors."'' (p. 4).</small></ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When LGBT people deny these facts, they may be corrected using the sources here. While LGBT [[Validity Policing]] frequently takes place on social media (and at the same time, many of us do not presently wish to associate with the LGBT Movement), it is still important to point out uncomfortable, widely-acknowledged historical facts.<ref>[https://www.schwulesmuseum.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Protokoll_Distanzierung-ist-noch-keine-Aufarbeitung.pdf Schwules Museum: on Distancing "pedoactivists" and their history with the Gay Movement]</ref> There are also [[Queer Theory|arguments in favor of]] identifying MAPs as "queer", or at least building alliances with others who feel marginalized by or disappointed with the corporate nature of the modern mainstream LGBT community and identity. [[Allyn Walker]], for example, studied 'The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People', finding varied responses and reasons behind MAPs identifying as 'gay', 'queer', and so on.<ref>Walker, A. (2019). <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[https://sci-hub.hkvisa.net/10.1080/00918369.2019.1613856 </del>“I’m Not like That, So Am I Gay?” The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]</del>, in ''Journal of Homosexuality'', 67:12, pp. 1736-1759.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><</del>/<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ref> Walker also noted the history of association between MAPs and other queer communities</del>.<<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">ref name="Walkerstad"</del>>''While MAPs often struggle to disclose their attractions to friends and family, LGBT individuals and other queer communities continue to have these struggles as well. Even with this and other commonalities, however, MAPs are not generally accepted by queer communities. This was not always the case. Multiple researchers have explored ties between gay rights organizations and MAPs lasting from the 1960s and declining until, in some cases, the early 1990s (Chenier, 2008; Janssen, 2017; Paternotte, 2014; [https://sci-hub.usualwant.com/10.1300/j082v20n01_15 Thorstad, 1991]). Thorstad (1991) quoted a 1969 article in a gay newspaper as saying, “‘Off the consenting adults bullshit!’” (p. 251). He added, “the Stonewall Generation [...] affirmed the joys of an outlaw sexuality in the face of the outmoded moral norms of the dominant society,” (p. 252), showing acceptance of individuals with attractions to minors.'' (<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">''Ibid'', </del>p. 4).</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>When LGBT people deny these facts, they may be corrected using the sources here. While LGBT [[Validity Policing]] frequently takes place on social media (and at the same time, many of us do not presently wish to associate with the LGBT Movement), it is still important to point out uncomfortable, widely-acknowledged historical facts.<ref>[https://www.schwulesmuseum.de/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Protokoll_Distanzierung-ist-noch-keine-Aufarbeitung.pdf Schwules Museum: on Distancing "pedoactivists" and their history with the Gay Movement]</ref> There are also [[Queer Theory|arguments in favor of]] identifying MAPs as "queer", or at least building alliances with others who feel marginalized by or disappointed with the corporate nature of the modern mainstream LGBT community and identity. [[Allyn Walker]], for example, studied 'The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People', finding varied responses and reasons behind MAPs identifying as 'gay', 'queer', and so on<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. Walker also noted the history of association between MAPs and other queer communities</ins>.<ref <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">name="Walkerstad"</ins>>Walker, A. (2019). “I’m Not like That, So Am I Gay?” The Use of Queer-Spectrum Identity Labels Among Minor-Attracted People, in ''Journal of Homosexuality'', 67:12, pp. 1736-1759. <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Generally available for free via '''[[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions|OPTION 1]]''' in shadow libraries, doi: 10.1080</ins>/<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">00918369.2019.1613856</ins>.<<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">small</ins>>''<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"</ins>While MAPs often struggle to disclose their attractions to friends and family, LGBT individuals and other queer communities continue to have these struggles as well. Even with this and other commonalities, however, MAPs are not generally accepted by queer communities. This was not always the case. Multiple researchers have explored ties between gay rights organizations and MAPs lasting from the 1960s and declining until, in some cases, the early 1990s (Chenier, 2008; Janssen, 2017; Paternotte, 2014; [https://sci-hub.usualwant.com/10.1300/j082v20n01_15 Thorstad, 1991]). Thorstad (1991) quoted a 1969 article in a gay newspaper as saying, “‘Off the consenting adults bullshit!’” (p. 251). He added, “the Stonewall Generation [...] affirmed the joys of an outlaw sexuality in the face of the outmoded moral norms of the dominant society,” (p. 252), showing acceptance of individuals with attractions to minors.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"</ins>'' (p. 4).<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></small></ins></ref></div></td></tr>
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[https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.00057 "I Just Had to Write”: Queer Youth Letters in the Mid-Twentieth-Century United States."] ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', vol. 35, no. 1, 2026, pp. 135-143 (p. 135).</ref><ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> People with same-sex desire faced being arrested, physically attacked or killed, and feared becoming outcasts and social rejects if they opened up to friends, colleagues, and parents.<ref>For an experience of a gay teen being chased at knife-point by his parents, see Barney's recollection of being chased around his kitchen at knife-point by his mother (“I'll cut it off!”), after she discovered him engaging in sex play with another child. ''Ibid''. p. 14; p. 260. For an account of seeking therapy to cope with a hostile society, see ''Ibid'', the story of Ralph Coles, pp. 124-125.</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Homosexual sexual contact (including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal, with same-sex desire widely taboo and stigmatized until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ref><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"</ins>In 1965, The Detroit Free Press ran a series of articles aimed at parents who were "concerned with rearing sons who are manly and daughters who are truly feminine." [... The] syndicated advice columnist Ann Landers reported that "70% of the mail I recieve from boys 14 to 19 concerns their homosexual tendencies, begging for help, terrified someone may lean they aren't 'like everyone else.'" - <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Quoted in </ins>Shepard, Nikita. (2026). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.00057 "I Just Had to Write”: Queer Youth Letters in the Mid-Twentieth-Century United States."] ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', vol. 35, no. 1, 2026, pp. 135-143 (p. 135).</ref><ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> People with same-sex desire faced being arrested, physically attacked or killed, and feared becoming outcasts and social rejects if they opened up to friends, colleagues, and parents.<ref>For an experience of a gay teen being chased at knife-point by his parents, see Barney's recollection of being chased around his kitchen at knife-point by his mother (“I'll cut it off!”), after she discovered him engaging in sex play with another child. ''Ibid''. p. 14; p. 260. For an account of seeking therapy to cope with a hostile society, see ''Ibid'', the story of Ralph Coles, pp. 124-125.</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td></tr>
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</table>Pruehttps://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Historical_examples_of_LGBT-MAP_unity&diff=33965&oldid=prevPrue at 16:17, 22 March 20262026-03-22T16:17:58Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Homosexual sexual contact (including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal, with same-sex desire widely taboo and stigmatized until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> People with same-sex desire faced being arrested, physically attacked or killed, and feared becoming outcasts and social rejects if they opened up to friends, colleagues, and parents.<ref>For an experience of a gay teen being chased at knife-point by his parents, see Barney's recollection of being chased around his kitchen at knife-point by his mother (“I'll cut it off!”), after she discovered him engaging in sex play with another child. ''Ibid''. p. 14; p. 260. For an account of seeking therapy to cope with a hostile society, see ''Ibid'', the story of Ralph Coles, pp. 124-125.</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Homosexual sexual contact (including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal, with same-sex desire widely taboo and stigmatized until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><ref>In 1965, The Detroit Free Press ran a series of articles aimed at parents who were "concerned with rearing sons who are manly and daughters who are truly feminine." [... The] syndicated advice columnist Ann Landers reported that "70% of the mail I recieve from boys 14 to 19 concerns their homosexual tendencies, begging for help, terrified someone may lean they aren't 'like everyone else.'" - Shepard, Nikita. (2026). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.00057 "I Just Had to Write”: Queer Youth Letters in the Mid-Twentieth-Century United States."] ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', vol. 35, no. 1, 2026, pp. 135-143 (p. 135).</ref></ins><ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> People with same-sex desire faced being arrested, physically attacked or killed, and feared becoming outcasts and social rejects if they opened up to friends, colleagues, and parents.<ref>For an experience of a gay teen being chased at knife-point by his parents, see Barney's recollection of being chased around his kitchen at knife-point by his mother (“I'll cut it off!”), after she discovered him engaging in sex play with another child. ''Ibid''. p. 14; p. 260. For an account of seeking therapy to cope with a hostile society, see ''Ibid'', the story of Ralph Coles, pp. 124-125.</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Keith Vacha, a gay writer whose work appeared in ''Fag Rag'', interviewed over 100 homosexuals from the pre-Stonewall generation (born around 1900) for his book ''[[Testimony:_Adult_Male_with_Minor_Male|Quiet Fire]]'', and noted <span style="background:#ffd9e5">"a high degree of inter-generational relationships among the men I met" (''Quiet Fire'', 1985, p. 217). On the basis of his interviews, Vacha attributed this tendency "not so much to preference as to their lack of hesitancy in entering into such age-segregated relationships. The stigma against these kinds of relationships does not appear to be as strong in the gay community as it is in society in general."</span> (pp. 217-218).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Keith Vacha, a gay writer whose work appeared in ''Fag Rag'', interviewed over 100 homosexuals from the pre-Stonewall generation (born around 1900) for his book ''[[Testimony:_Adult_Male_with_Minor_Male|Quiet Fire]]'', and noted <span style="background:#ffd9e5">"a high degree of inter-generational relationships among the men I met" (''Quiet Fire'', 1985, p. 217). On the basis of his interviews, Vacha attributed this tendency "not so much to preference as to their lack of hesitancy in entering into such age-segregated relationships. The stigma against these kinds of relationships does not appear to be as strong in the gay community as it is in society in general."</span> (pp. 217-218).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Homosexual sexual contact (including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal, with same-sex desire widely taboo and stigmatized until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> People with <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">sanme</del>-sex desire faced being arrested, physically attacked or killed, and feared becoming outcasts and social rejects if they opened up to friends, colleagues, and parents.<ref>For an experience of a gay teen being chased at knife-point by his parents, see Barney's recollection of being chased around his kitchen at knife-point by his mother (“I'll cut it off!”), after she discovered him engaging in sex play with another child. ''Ibid''. p. 14; p. 260. For an account of seeking therapy to cope with a hostile society, see ''Ibid'', the story of Ralph Coles, pp. 124-125.</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Homosexual sexual contact (including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal, with same-sex desire widely taboo and stigmatized until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> People with <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">same</ins>-sex desire faced being arrested, physically attacked or killed, and feared becoming outcasts and social rejects if they opened up to friends, colleagues, and parents.<ref>For an experience of a gay teen being chased at knife-point by his parents, see Barney's recollection of being chased around his kitchen at knife-point by his mother (“I'll cut it off!”), after she discovered him engaging in sex play with another child. ''Ibid''. p. 14; p. 260. For an account of seeking therapy to cope with a hostile society, see ''Ibid'', the story of Ralph Coles, pp. 124-125.</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Homosexuality </del>(including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal and <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">strictly taboo </del>until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Gary W. Dowsett, </del>''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Homosexual sexual contact </ins>(including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, with same-sex desire widely taboo </ins>and <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">stigmatized </ins>until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link)<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.</ref> People with sanme-sex desire faced being arrested, physically attacked or killed, and feared becoming outcasts and social rejects if they opened up to friends, colleagues, and parents.<ref>For an experience of a gay teen being chased at knife-point by his parents, see Barney's recollection of being chased around his kitchen at knife-point by his mother (“I'll cut it off!”), after she discovered him engaging in sex play with another child. ''Ibid''. p. 14; p. 260. For an account of seeking therapy to cope with a hostile society, see ''Ibid'', the story of Ralph Coles, pp. 124-125</ins>.</ref> With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Keith Vacha, a gay writer whose work appeared in ''Fag Rag'', interviewed over 100 homosexuals from the pre-Stonewall generation (born around 1900) for his book ''[[Testimony:_Adult_Male_with_Minor_Male|Quiet Fire]]'', and noted <span style="background:#ffd9e5">"a high degree of inter-generational relationships among the men I met" (''Quiet Fire'', 1985, p. 217). On the basis of his interviews, Vacha attributed this tendency "not so much to preference as to their lack of hesitancy in entering into such age-segregated relationships. The stigma against these kinds of relationships does not appear to be as strong in the gay community as it is in society in general."</span> (pp. 217-218).</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Keith Vacha, a gay writer whose work appeared in ''Fag Rag'', interviewed over 100 homosexuals from the pre-Stonewall generation (born around 1900) for his book ''[[Testimony:_Adult_Male_with_Minor_Male|Quiet Fire]]'', and noted <span style="background:#ffd9e5">"a high degree of inter-generational relationships among the men I met" (''Quiet Fire'', 1985, p. 217). On the basis of his interviews, Vacha attributed this tendency "not so much to preference as to their lack of hesitancy in entering into such age-segregated relationships. The stigma against these kinds of relationships does not appear to be as strong in the gay community as it is in society in general."</span> (pp. 217-218).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Homosexuality (including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal and strictly taboo until the liberation movements of the 60s. With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Homosexuality (including [[pederasty]]) remained illegal and strictly taboo until the liberation movements of the 60s.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><ref>For some interviews with gay men who experienced life in the 1950s, who experienced the-then extreme pressure to seek therapy as a coping mechanism for living with their hidden, extremely stigmatized sexual feelings that if exposed threatened to ruin their life - see [[Gary Dowsett]]'s 1996 book [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/60eb6c41c74e5b450140e2078f99a6f7 Gary W. Dowsett, ''Practicing Desire: Homosexual Sex in the Era of AIDS'' (Stanford University Press, 1996)]. (Annas Archive link).</ref> </ins>With effectively ''no age of consent'' for homosexuality, the movement was age-queered as inter-generational sex was no more illegal than same age homosexuality. Witch-hunts such as the earlier [[Boston-Boise affair|Boise controversy]] targeted pederasts in the name of curbing homosexuality - since the homosexuals were largely pederasts. During the 1950s and 60s, gay commerce began to expand with the circulation of physique magazines sporting "images and illustrations of nearly naked men, as well as articles, letters from readers, and advertisements, [which for many] served as an initiation into gay culture." "With circulation rates many times higher than the openly political "homophile" magazines," it has been argued that "gay commerce was not a byproduct but rather an important catalyst for the gay rights movement."<ref>Johnson, David K. [https://annas-archive.org/md5/63375a4cfaaadfcec13c528b9df355f8 ''Buying Gay: How Physique Entrepreneurs Sparked a Movement''] (New York: Columbia University Press, 2019). Here, we quote from the book description / blurb.</ref> Boy prostitution was also common form of homosexuality in this intervening period, with many such examples documented.<ref>[http://greek-love.com See, e.g. Greek-Love.com] emphasis on works of [[Parker Rossman]].</ref><ref>See also, Romesburg, Don. (2009). [https://dx.doi.org/10.1353/sex.0.0061 “Wouldn’t a Boy Do?”: Placing Early-Twentieth-Century Male Youth Sex Work into Histories of Sexuality]. ''Journal of the History of Sexuality'', 18(3), 367-392.</ref> Some of our man-boy [[Accounts and Testimonies|accounts and testimonies]] also refer to this revealing period in time.</div></td></tr>
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