Lloyd Martin - Revision history

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	'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the late 70s and early 80s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]], he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://~~www~~.~~newgon~~.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>		'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the late 70s and early 80s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]], he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://wiki.yesmap.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>

	Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. He was an open believer in the [[Snuff Child Porn Conspiracy]], asserting in 1977 that Mexican boys were being smuggled across the border in specially designed vehicles with hidden compartments. ''“They bring them in eight at a time under the floorboards,”'' Martin told reporters. ''“Then they take them to a motel and clean them up. It’s getting more violent. It’s as if the kids aren’t enough. Now there’s a need for blood.”''<ref>[https://annas-archive.org/md5/73539a4cfca91bae18a740b0e25b2fb6 The encyclopedia of conspiracies and conspiracy theories] (2005), pp. 328-329.</ref>		Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. He was an open believer in the [[Snuff Child Porn Conspiracy]], asserting in 1977 that Mexican boys were being smuggled across the border in specially designed vehicles with hidden compartments. ''“They bring them in eight at a time under the floorboards,”'' Martin told reporters. ''“Then they take them to a motel and clean them up. It’s getting more violent. It’s as if the kids aren’t enough. Now there’s a need for blood.”''<ref>[https://annas-archive.org/md5/73539a4cfca91bae18a740b0e25b2fb6 The encyclopedia of conspiracies and conspiracy theories] (2005), pp. 328-329.</ref>

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	Correspondence that Martin had seized in a local raid led to the arrest of [[Jacques Dugué]] in January 1979, an amateur French pornographer whose subjects were often teenage boys.<ref name="De Orio" />		Correspondence that Martin had seized in a local raid led to the arrest of [[Jacques Dugué]] in January 1979, an amateur French pornographer whose subjects were often teenage boys.<ref name="De Orio" />

			Cornell University keep documents that may have more information on Martin.<ref>[https://rmc.library.cornell.edu/EAD/htmldocs/RMM07729.html Cornell's NAMBLA collection]</ref>

	==See also==		==See also==

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	Martin was a firm believer in the now-outdated theory that minors who were (as he put it) "seduced", would go on to commit indecent acts themselves. This is also known as the [[Research: Offender characteristics\|"abused-abuser"]] ~~relationship~~:		Martin was a firm believer in the now-outdated theory that minors who were (as he put it) "seduced", would go on to commit indecent acts themselves. This is also known as the [[Research: Offender characteristics\|"abused-abuser"]] hypothesis:

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	Correspondence that Martin had seized in a local raid led to the arrest of [[Jacques Dugué]] in January 1979, an amateur French pornographer whose subjects were often teenage boys.<ref name="De Orio" />		Correspondence that Martin had seized in a local raid led to the arrest of [[Jacques Dugué]] in January 1979, an amateur French pornographer whose subjects were often teenage boys.<ref name="De Orio" />

			==See also==

			*[[Judianne Densen-Gerber]]
			*[[Judith Reisman]]
			*[[Jim Gamble]]
			*[[Michael Moran]]
			*[[Ann Wolbert Burgess]]
			*[[Robin Lloyd]]

	==References==		==References==

	[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:Child Advocacy]][[Category:Prostitution]][[Category:Child Pornography]][[Category:TV & Media]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Ranting AntiPeds]][[Category:People: Unsympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: Popular Authors]][[Category:Law/Crime]][[Category:Law/Crime: American]][[Category:History & Events: Real Crime]][[Category:History & Events: 1970s]][[Category:History & Events: 1980s]][[Category:History & Events: American]][[Category:Law/Crime: Corruption]]		[[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Gay]][[Category:Child Advocacy]][[Category:Prostitution]][[Category:Child Pornography]][[Category:TV & Media]][[Category:People]][[Category:People: American]][[Category:People: Deceased]][[Category:People: Ranting AntiPeds]][[Category:People: Unsympathetic Activists]][[Category:People: Popular Authors]][[Category:Law/Crime]][[Category:Law/Crime: American]][[Category:History & Events: Real Crime]][[Category:History & Events: 1970s]][[Category:History & Events: 1980s]][[Category:History & Events: American]][[Category:Law/Crime: Corruption]]

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	'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the late 70s and early 80s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]], he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>		'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the late 70s and early 80s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]], he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>

	Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''.		Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. He was an open believer in the [[Snuff Child Porn Conspiracy]], asserting in 1977 that Mexican boys were being smuggled across the border in specially designed vehicles with hidden compartments. ''“They bring them in eight at a time under the floorboards,”'' Martin told reporters. ''“Then they take them to a motel and clean them up. It’s getting more violent. It’s as if the kids aren’t enough. Now there’s a need for blood.”''<ref>[https://annas-archive.org/md5/73539a4cfca91bae18a740b0e25b2fb6 The encyclopedia of conspiracies and conspiracy theories] (2005), pp. 328-329.</ref>

	Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]. See also, Martin and Haddad (1982). "We Have a Secret".</ref>		Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]. See also, Martin and Haddad (1982). "We Have a Secret".</ref>
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	''In response to the decreasing popularity of “the homosexual” as a demonic figure, law enforcement officials such as the LAPD detective Lloyd Martin refocused their energies on demonizing the “pedophile.” By focusing less on homosexuality per se and more on other, less sympathetic deviant subjects, who remained outside the boundaries of identity politics, conservatives managed to pursue a law-and-order agenda with respect to sex crimes unhindered by resistance from gay and progressive activists'' (p 40) [...] ''Martin was a law enforcement entrepreneur who was making a career out of fomenting social concern about child sexual abuse in general and gay pedophiles in particular ''[...]'' he had coordinated police crackdowns on alleged “chicken hawks”—adult men with a sexual interest in underage boys—in Los Angeles since the early 1970s. “This particular film,” Martin explained about a video he presented on the 60 Minutes special, “I would say, was produced by a ‘chicken hawk.’ That is, an adult male who likes little boys. And I would guarantee you that the two boys that are depicted in this film have been molested by this male prior to this production.”'' (p 120/121)<ref name="De Orio">De Orio, ''[https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/138757/sadeorio_1.pdf Punishing Queer Sexuality in the Age of LGBT Rights]'' (2017)</ref>		''In response to the decreasing popularity of “the homosexual” as a demonic figure, law enforcement officials such as the LAPD detective Lloyd Martin refocused their energies on demonizing the “pedophile.” By focusing less on homosexuality per se and more on other, less sympathetic deviant subjects, who remained outside the boundaries of identity politics, conservatives managed to pursue a law-and-order agenda with respect to sex crimes unhindered by resistance from gay and progressive activists'' (p 40) [...] ''Martin was a law enforcement entrepreneur who was making a career out of fomenting social concern about child sexual abuse in general and gay pedophiles in particular ''[...]'' he had coordinated police crackdowns on alleged “chicken hawks”—adult men with a sexual interest in underage boys—in Los Angeles since the early 1970s. “This particular film,” Martin explained about a video he presented on the 60 Minutes special, “I would say, was produced by a ‘chicken hawk.’ That is, an adult male who likes little boys. And I would guarantee you that the two boys that are depicted in this film have been molested by this male prior to this production.”'' (pp 120-121)<ref name="De Orio">De Orio, ''[https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/138757/sadeorio_1.pdf Punishing Queer Sexuality in the Age of LGBT Rights]'' (2017)</ref>
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	In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work on "kiddie porn" featuring boys.<ref>Note: De Orio also notes: <small>''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department detective Lloyd Martin."''</small></ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.		In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work on "kiddie porn" featuring boys.<ref>Note: De Orio also notes: <small>''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department detective Lloyd Martin."''</small></ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.

	Martin's uncompromising pursuit of "sexual predators" brought him prominence but also sparked controversy after he publicly criticized several organizations for what he said were inadequate efforts to screen the adults allowed to work with children.<ref name="Obit" /> Late in 1982, LAPD reassigned Martin from head of the SECU to a lower-level administrative position. Police Captain Robert Taylor said that this was because of his outside activities with an organization he had founded with his wife in 1980, called the ''Foundation for America’s Sexually Exploited Children, Inc.'' Martin had repeatedly failed to clarify that he was speaking for his foundation and not for the police department. His characterizations of the Boy Scouts and the Big Brothers of Los Angeles as organizations that gave sex offenders access to boys, also factored into the 1982 decision to sideline him.<ref name="Mitzel">Mitzel, “LA Vice Cop Lloyd Martin Moved to Administrative Job,” ''Gay Community News'', March 27, 1982</ref> He eventually negotiated a retirement from the department in 1984.<ref name="Obit" />		Martin's uncompromising pursuit of "sexual predators" brought him prominence but also sparked controversy after he publicly criticized several organizations for what he said were inadequate [[Safeguarding\|efforts]] to screen the adults allowed to work with children.<ref name="Obit" /> Late in 1982, LAPD reassigned Martin from head of the SECU to a lower-level administrative position. Police Captain Robert Taylor said that this was because of his outside activities with an organization he had founded with his wife in 1980, called the ''Foundation for America’s Sexually Exploited Children, Inc.'' Martin had repeatedly failed to clarify that he was speaking for his foundation and not for the police department. His characterizations of the Boy Scouts and the Big Brothers of Los Angeles as organizations that gave sex offenders access to boys, also factored into the 1982 decision to sideline him.<ref name="Mitzel">Mitzel, “LA Vice Cop Lloyd Martin Moved to Administrative Job,” ''Gay Community News'', March 27, 1982</ref> He eventually negotiated a retirement from the department in 1984.<ref name="Obit" />

	[[File:Lloydmartin.jpg\|thumb\|<small>Martin is often recalled for his almost singular and unwavering focus on [[Child Pornography\|erotica]] involving boys - exemplified by the [[List of MAP-related magazines\|titles]] in this image. Said to be abrupt in person, his passionate defense of boyhood innocence purportedly emanated from a genuine love of children. A follower of [[Wikipedia:Little League Baseball\|Little League Baseball]], Martin was also said to be a lover of animals</small><ref name="Obit" />]]		[[File:Lloydmartin.jpg\|thumb\|<small>Martin is often recalled for his almost singular and unwavering focus on [[Child Pornography\|erotica]] involving boys - exemplified by the [[List of MAP-related magazines\|titles]] in this image. Said to be abrupt in person, his passionate defense of boyhood innocence purportedly emanated from a genuine love of children. A follower of [[Wikipedia:Little League Baseball\|Little League Baseball]], Martin was also said to be a lover of animals</small><ref name="Obit" />]]

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	Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />		Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />

	In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work on "kiddie porn" featuring boys.<ref>Note: De Orio also notes: ''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department		In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work on "kiddie porn" featuring boys.<ref>Note: De Orio also notes: <small>''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department detective Lloyd Martin."''</small></ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.
	detective Lloyd Martin."''</ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.

	Martin's uncompromising pursuit of "sexual predators" brought him prominence but also sparked controversy after he publicly criticized several organizations for what he said were inadequate efforts to screen the adults allowed to work with children.<ref name="Obit" /> Late in 1982, LAPD reassigned Martin from head of the SECU to a lower-level administrative position. Police Captain Robert Taylor said that this was because of his outside activities with an organization he had founded with his wife in 1980, called the ''Foundation for America’s Sexually Exploited Children, Inc.'' Martin had repeatedly failed to clarify that he was speaking for his foundation and not for the police department. His characterizations of the Boy Scouts and the Big Brothers of Los Angeles as organizations that gave sex offenders access to boys, also factored into the 1982 decision to sideline him.<ref name="Mitzel">Mitzel, “LA Vice Cop Lloyd Martin Moved to Administrative Job,” ''Gay Community News'', March 27, 1982</ref> He eventually negotiated a retirement from the department in 1984.<ref name="Obit" />		Martin's uncompromising pursuit of "sexual predators" brought him prominence but also sparked controversy after he publicly criticized several organizations for what he said were inadequate efforts to screen the adults allowed to work with children.<ref name="Obit" /> Late in 1982, LAPD reassigned Martin from head of the SECU to a lower-level administrative position. Police Captain Robert Taylor said that this was because of his outside activities with an organization he had founded with his wife in 1980, called the ''Foundation for America’s Sexually Exploited Children, Inc.'' Martin had repeatedly failed to clarify that he was speaking for his foundation and not for the police department. His characterizations of the Boy Scouts and the Big Brothers of Los Angeles as organizations that gave sex offenders access to boys, also factored into the 1982 decision to sideline him.<ref name="Mitzel">Mitzel, “LA Vice Cop Lloyd Martin Moved to Administrative Job,” ''Gay Community News'', March 27, 1982</ref> He eventually negotiated a retirement from the department in 1984.<ref name="Obit" />

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	Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />		Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />

	In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work on "kiddie porn" featuring boys.<ref>Note: De Orio ~~(linked elsewhere in this article)~~ notes: ''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department		In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work on "kiddie porn" featuring boys.<ref>Note: De Orio also notes: ''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department
	detective Lloyd Martin."''</ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.		detective Lloyd Martin."''</ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.

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	''We must protect him until he is 18 . . . from himself and from the pedophile he will find who will give him love and attention. . . . The pedophile will destroy the boy’s soul.''<ref>[https://brongersma.info/PAN-08 “Notes Made by Mitzel during Lloyd Martin’s Banquet Speech,” [[PAN]], April 1981. This copy also contains the article used to build the BoyWiki piece on the Wolbert-Burgess banquet at a nursing college]</ref>		''We must protect him until he is 18 . . . from himself and from the pedophile he will find who will give him love and attention. . . . The pedophile will destroy the boy’s soul.''<ref>[https://brongersma.info/PAN-08 “Notes Made by Mitzel during Lloyd Martin’s Banquet Speech,”] [[PAN]], April 1981. This copy also contains the article used to build the BoyWiki piece on the Wolbert-Burgess banquet at a nursing college</ref>
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	'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the ~~1980s~~. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]] he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>		'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the late 70s and early 80s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]], he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>

	Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]</ref>		Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''.

			Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]. See also, Martin and Haddad (1982). "We Have a Secret".</ref>

	==History==		==History==
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	Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />		Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />

	In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work.<ref>Note: De Orio (linked elsewhere in this article) notes: ''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department		In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work on "kiddie porn" featuring boys.<ref>Note: De Orio (linked elsewhere in this article) notes: ''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department
	detective Lloyd Martin."''</ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.		detective Lloyd Martin."''</ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.

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	==References==		==References==

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	'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the 1980s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]] he went on to face discredit, following outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> ~~and what appeared to be~~ attempts to abuse his office and testimony extortion.<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref>Mitzel~~, “LA Vice Cop Lloyd Martin Moved to Administrative Job,” ''Gay Community News'', March 27, 1982<~~/~~ref~~> A ''Salon'' article later described ~~him~~ as "infamous".<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>		'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the 1980s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]] he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://www.newgon.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>

	Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]</ref>		Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. Far from a prolific author (he expressed a dislike of reading),<ref name=Burgess /> his occasional coauthor was Jill Haddad.<ref>[https://books.google.com/books/about/What_If_I_Say_No.html?id=sArnPAAACAAJ What If . . . I Say No - Haddad and Martin]</ref>

	In a hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.

	==History==		==History==
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	Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />		Martin joined the Los Angeles Police Department in 1965. In 1976, he helped establish the department’s – and nation’s – first Sexual Exploitation Unit of the Juvenile Division, the ''Sexually Exploited Child Unit'' (SECU).<ref name="Obit" /><ref name="De Orio" />

	In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work. Martin's uncompromising pursuit of "sexual predators" brought him prominence but also sparked controversy after he publicly criticized several organizations for what he said were inadequate efforts to screen the adults allowed to work with children. ~~After political pressure~~ from ~~these~~ organizations ~~led~~ to him ~~being reassigned within the LAPD~~, he negotiated a retirement from the department in 1984.<ref name="Obit" />		In the late-70s and 80s, he became a "go-to expert" in the field of sexual exploitation of children, being interviewed by ''60 Minutes'' for his work.<ref>Note: De Orio (linked elsewhere in this article) notes: ''"On May 15 of that year, the CBS news program 60 Minutes broadcast a special report entitled “Kiddie Porn” that, after briefly discussing adult sexual interest in underage girls, focused for the rest of its exposé on erotic magazines with pictures of boys and footage of teenage male hustlers turning tricks on the street. The program substantiated the claim that the sexual abuse of young boys by homosexual men was extremely widespread through an interview with the Los Angeles Police Department
			detective Lloyd Martin."''</ref> In a 1977 hearing before the Subcommittee on Crime of the Committee on the Judiciary in the House of Representatives, Martin testified that there existed a large-scale national ring of child pornography and boy prostitution. Martin cites a $5 pamphlet called ''Where The Young Ones Are'', described as a directory of playgrounds, bus stations, and other places where children gathered unattended. While he could not produce a copy of this seemingly easy to obtain document in person, he made the unsubstantiated, and one assumes unfalsifiable claim that it had sold over 70,000 copies.<ref>[[Patrick Califia]], “The Age of Consent: An Issue and Its Effects on the Gay Movement, Part One,” Advocate, October 16, 1980.</ref><ref name="Hearings" /> To this day, no evidence has been produced or otherwise located proving the existence of this elusive manual.

			Martin's uncompromising pursuit of "sexual predators" brought him prominence but also sparked controversy after he publicly criticized several organizations for what he said were inadequate efforts to screen the adults allowed to work with children.<ref name="Obit" /> Late in 1982, LAPD reassigned Martin from head of the SECU to a lower-level administrative position. Police Captain Robert Taylor said that this was because of his outside activities with an organization he had founded with his wife in 1980, called the ''Foundation for America’s Sexually Exploited Children, Inc.'' Martin had repeatedly failed to clarify that he was speaking for his foundation and not for the police department. His characterizations of the Boy Scouts and the Big Brothers of Los Angeles as organizations that gave sex offenders access to boys, also factored into the 1982 decision to sideline him.<ref name="Mitzel">Mitzel, “LA Vice Cop Lloyd Martin Moved to Administrative Job,” ''Gay Community News'', March 27, 1982</ref> He eventually negotiated a retirement from the department in 1984.<ref name="Obit" />

	[[File:Lloydmartin.jpg\|thumb\|<small>Martin is often recalled for his almost singular and unwavering focus on [[Child Pornography\|erotica]] involving boys - exemplified by the [[List of MAP-related magazines\|titles]] in this image. Said to be abrupt in person, his passionate defense of boyhood innocence purportedly emanated from a genuine love of children. A follower of [[Wikipedia:Little League Baseball\|Little League Baseball]], Martin was also said to be a lover of animals</small><ref name="Obit" />]]		[[File:Lloydmartin.jpg\|thumb\|<small>Martin is often recalled for his almost singular and unwavering focus on [[Child Pornography\|erotica]] involving boys - exemplified by the [[List of MAP-related magazines\|titles]] in this image. Said to be abrupt in person, his passionate defense of boyhood innocence purportedly emanated from a genuine love of children. A follower of [[Wikipedia:Little League Baseball\|Little League Baseball]], Martin was also said to be a lover of animals</small><ref name="Obit" />]]
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	''In response to the decreasing popularity of “the homosexual” as a demonic figure, law enforcement officials such as the LAPD detective Lloyd Martin refocused their energies on demonizing the “pedophile.” By focusing less on homosexuality per se and more on other, less sympathetic deviant subjects, who remained outside the boundaries of identity politics, conservatives managed to pursue a law-and-order agenda with respect to sex crimes unhindered by resistance from gay and progressive activists'' (p 40) [...] ''Martin was a law enforcement entrepreneur who was making a career out of fomenting social concern about child sexual abuse in general and gay pedophiles in particular [...] he had coordinated police crackdowns on alleged “chicken hawks”—adult men with a sexual interest in underage boys—in Los Angeles since the early 1970s. “This particular film,” Martin explained about a video he presented on the 60 Minutes special, “I would say, was produced by a ‘chicken hawk.’ That is, an adult male who likes little boys. And I would guarantee you that the two boys that are depicted in this film have been molested by this male prior to this production.”'' (p 120/121)<ref name="De Orio">De Orio, ''[https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/138757/sadeorio_1.pdf Punishing Queer Sexuality in the Age of LGBT Rights]'' (2017)</ref>		''In response to the decreasing popularity of “the homosexual” as a demonic figure, law enforcement officials such as the LAPD detective Lloyd Martin refocused their energies on demonizing the “pedophile.” By focusing less on homosexuality per se and more on other, less sympathetic deviant subjects, who remained outside the boundaries of identity politics, conservatives managed to pursue a law-and-order agenda with respect to sex crimes unhindered by resistance from gay and progressive activists'' (p 40) [...] ''Martin was a law enforcement entrepreneur who was making a career out of fomenting social concern about child sexual abuse in general and gay pedophiles in particular ''[...]'' he had coordinated police crackdowns on alleged “chicken hawks”—adult men with a sexual interest in underage boys—in Los Angeles since the early 1970s. “This particular film,” Martin explained about a video he presented on the 60 Minutes special, “I would say, was produced by a ‘chicken hawk.’ That is, an adult male who likes little boys. And I would guarantee you that the two boys that are depicted in this film have been molested by this male prior to this production.”'' (p 120/121)<ref name="De Orio">De Orio, ''[https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/138757/sadeorio_1.pdf Punishing Queer Sexuality in the Age of LGBT Rights]'' (2017)</ref>
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	'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the late 70s and early 80s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]], he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://~~www~~.~~newgon~~.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>		'''Lloyd Hartley Martin''' (Dec. 19, 1942 - May 27, 2021)<ref name="Obit">[https://www.polkio.com/obituaries/lloyd-hartley-martin/article_9fea3392-ce17-11eb-bfe0-abcab46816f9.html Polkio: Lloyd Hartley Martin (Obit)]</ref> was an Arkansas-born California Police Detective who was a highly sought-after authority on [[Child Sexual Abuse]] during the American [[Moral panic\|pornography panics]] of the late 70s and early 80s. Like other [[Moral Enterprise\|moral entrepreneurs]] such as [[Judianne Densen-Gerber]], he went on to face discredit, following repeated outspoken comments made against public institutions such as the Boy Scouts,<ref name="Obit" /> attempts to abuse his office and what earlier in the 70s appeared to be testimony extortion.<ref>[https://wiki.yesmap.net/prd/exp/Hollywood1973.html PRD article detailing Martin's implication in extortion of testimony, citing 1974 articles from gay magazine ''The Advocate'']</ref><ref name="Mitzel" /> A ''Salon'' article by [[James Kincaid]] later described Martin as "infamous"; an infamy our article summarizes.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070304095923/http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/01/31/kincaid/index1.html Is this child pornography? Kincaid, James R. Salon, 31 Jan 2000]</ref>

	Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. He was an open believer in the [[Snuff Child Porn Conspiracy]], asserting in 1977 that Mexican boys were being smuggled across the border in specially designed vehicles with hidden compartments. ''“They bring them in eight at a time under the floorboards,”'' Martin told reporters. ''“Then they take them to a motel and clean them up. It’s getting more violent. It’s as if the kids aren’t enough. Now there’s a need for blood.”''<ref>[https://annas-archive.org/md5/73539a4cfca91bae18a740b0e25b2fb6 The encyclopedia of conspiracies and conspiracy theories] (2005), pp. 328-329.</ref>		Martin is the source of the often-circulated CSA [[List of conflicting statements by victimologists\|"absurdism"]] ''"once a pedophile gets his grip on your son or daughter, you and I as parents cannot compete"''. He was an open believer in the [[Snuff Child Porn Conspiracy]], asserting in 1977 that Mexican boys were being smuggled across the border in specially designed vehicles with hidden compartments. ''“They bring them in eight at a time under the floorboards,”'' Martin told reporters. ''“Then they take them to a motel and clean them up. It’s getting more violent. It’s as if the kids aren’t enough. Now there’s a need for blood.”''<ref>[https://annas-archive.org/md5/73539a4cfca91bae18a740b0e25b2fb6 The encyclopedia of conspiracies and conspiracy theories] (2005), pp. 328-329.</ref>