MAP Movement - Revision history

Jim Burton at 14:21, 27 February 2026

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	*'''YouTube''' - due to its size, there have been various controversies with users making statements seeming to condone [[minor-adult sex]], and these go back into the 00s (search "dendrophilian", the guy with the dreadlocks in this video<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/102s Dendrophilian cut into this video]</ref>). These provocative videos attract a diversity of comments. Depending on Google's take on the culture-war, YouTube will be an important battleground in the decades to come.		*'''YouTube''' - due to its size, there have been various controversies with users making statements seeming to condone [[minor-adult sex]], and these go back into the 00s (search "dendrophilian", the guy with the dreadlocks in this video<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/102s Dendrophilian cut into this video]</ref>). These provocative videos attract a diversity of comments. Depending on Google's take on the culture-war, YouTube will be an important battleground in the decades to come.

	In 2022/23, Roisin Michaux (an [[anti]]) began to embed herself with MAPs (including the public section of an online chat funded by [[Newgon]]), and had some success gaining coverage in the New Zealand media.<ref>[https://~~thebfd~~.~~co.nz/2023/02/04~~/organised-aggrieved-and-determined-to-win/ Organised, Aggrieved and Determined to Win: The pedo underground is real & dangerous]</ref>		In 2022/23, Roisin Michaux (an [[anti]]) began to embed herself with MAPs (including the public section of an online chat funded by [[Newgon]]), and had some success gaining coverage in the New Zealand media.<ref>[https://goodoil.news/organised-aggrieved-and-determined-to-win/ Organised, Aggrieved and Determined to Win: The pedo underground is real & dangerous]</ref>

	==Terminology and symbols==		==Terminology and symbols==

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	*'''[[MEDAL]]''' is an American-focused third-wave MAP group with largely progressive "east coast" values.		*'''[[MEDAL]]''' is an American-focused third-wave MAP group with largely progressive "east coast" values.
	*'''[[Mu]]''' is an Europe and Asia-focused third-wave MAP group.		*'''[[Mu]]''' is an Europe and Asia-focused third-wave MAP group.
			*'''Alliance'''-catering groups such as [[Beyond the Plus]] have been founded to unite MAPs with [[paraphilia\|paraphiles]] and radqueers, although there have been considerable hurdles getting these off the ground, including censorship.

	The well established German pro-c media portal [[Krumme13]] and the organization [[NAMBLA]] are still active at managerial level, and the latter still maintains a small network. [[Ipce]] continues as an archive, but not as a forum.		The well established German pro-c media portal [[Krumme13]] and the organization [[NAMBLA]] are still active at managerial level, and the latter still maintains a small network. [[Ipce]] continues as an archive, but not as a forum.

Jim Burton at 18:40, 7 September 2025

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	:In the 1980s, a number of pedophile and pederast advocacy groups formed including [[Vereniging MARTIJN]] (1982), situated in the Netherlands, and the [[Danish Pedophile Association]] ('''DPA''', in 1985). This was followed in the early 1990s by the formation of [[Ipce]], an umbrella organization for activist groups. Although MARTIJN and Ipce continued to function until the 10s, DPA disbanded in early 2004. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, the movement faced headwinds in Europe and the UK due to a combination of events including the rise of the conservative political right, scare stories, [[moral panic]]s and the rise of second-wave feminism. [[Child sexual abuse]] came into being as a discourse during this period, resulting in greater public vigilance and a decreased tolerance for [[child pornography\|child erotica]].<ref name=best /> The membership of the NVSH drastically decreased to below 10,000 (at times it had had up to 240,000 members) yielding a serious financial crisis.<ref name=BernardPad/> Bernard (born in 1920) retired from his occupation as a psychologist, as an expert witness, and from all of his offices in international organizations in 1985.<ref name=Leopardi/> He did, however make an appearance two years later as a guest on the Phil Donahue show, accompanied by a 23-year-old male who had been involved in a sexual relationship with an adult as a minor.<ref name=Leopardi/>		:In the 1980s, a number of pedophile and pederast advocacy groups formed including [[Vereniging MARTIJN]] (1982), situated in the Netherlands, and the [[Danish Pedophile Association]] ('''DPA''', in 1985). This was followed in the early 1990s by the formation of [[Ipce]], an umbrella organization for activist groups. Although MARTIJN and Ipce continued to function until the 10s, DPA disbanded in early 2004. In the late 1970s and early 1980s, the movement faced headwinds in Europe and the UK due to a combination of events including the rise of the conservative political right, scare stories, [[moral panic]]s and the rise of second-wave feminism. [[Child sexual abuse]] came into being as a discourse during this period, resulting in greater public vigilance and a decreased tolerance for [[child pornography\|child erotica]].<ref name=best /> The membership of the NVSH drastically decreased to below 10,000 (at times it had had up to 240,000 members) yielding a serious financial crisis.<ref name=BernardPad/> Bernard (born in 1920) retired from his occupation as a psychologist, as an expert witness, and from all of his offices in international organizations in 1985.<ref name=Leopardi/> He did, however make an appearance two years later as a guest on the Phil Donahue show, accompanied by a 23-year-old male who had been involved in a sexual relationship with an adult as a minor.<ref name=Leopardi/>

	*'''Late 80s and early 90s - American Influence and the new, bourgeoise gays.''' Meanwhile, European and British law enforcement's efforts to combat child pornography and sexual contact with minors became more aggressive, and the number of convictions and incarcerated sex offenders increased.<ref name=best /> In the Netherlands, emerging feminist and victim organizations as well as juvenile police units still supported decriminalization as of 1982.<ref name=Schuijer/> However, Dutch police and law officials were increasingly educated by the FBI on "FBI methods of tracking down the makers and collectors of child pornography" (virtually and effectively "guidelines [that] target those who engage in sexual contacts with underage minors").<ref name=Schuijer/> In 1989, Dutch minister of justice Korthals Althes publicly stated that weekly meetings on these matters with the FBI and British government were established in 1985.<ref name=BernardPad/> The famously imprudent P.I.E was targeted by the Scotland Yard Paedophile Unit, and notable members, including founders of P.I.E. were consequently convicted of sex offenses, including [[Geoffrey Prime]] and [[David Joy]]. After the International Lesbian and Gay Association was granted consultative member status within the United Nations Economic and Social Council in 1994, the United States publicly threatened to cancel its annual financial contributions of US$1 Million to the UN because ILGA had four pronouncedly "pedophile" activist member groups: NAMBLA, MARTIJN, US-based Project TRUTH, and German Verein für Sexuelle Gleichberechtigung (VSG, "Association for Sexual Equality"). As a result, the UN status of ILGA was suspended and ILGA expelled all four organizations. The German Bundesverband Homosexualität (BVH, "National Homosexuality Association") called for international protests on ILGA for expelling these groups, in spite of the fact that BVH never before had been observed as sympathizing with MAPs.<ref>[https://~~www~~.~~newgon~~.net/prd/hist/ILGAexp/index.html PRD: ILGA Expulsion]</ref><ref name=BernardPad/>		*'''Late 80s and early 90s - American Influence and the new, bourgeoise gays.''' Meanwhile, European and British law enforcement's efforts to combat child pornography and sexual contact with minors became more aggressive, and the number of convictions and incarcerated sex offenders increased.<ref name=best /> In the Netherlands, emerging feminist and victim organizations as well as juvenile police units still supported decriminalization as of 1982.<ref name=Schuijer/> However, Dutch police and law officials were increasingly educated by the FBI on "FBI methods of tracking down the makers and collectors of child pornography" (virtually and effectively "guidelines [that] target those who engage in sexual contacts with underage minors").<ref name=Schuijer/> In 1989, Dutch minister of justice Korthals Althes publicly stated that weekly meetings on these matters with the FBI and British government were established in 1985.<ref name=BernardPad/> The famously imprudent P.I.E was targeted by the Scotland Yard Paedophile Unit, and notable members, including founders of P.I.E. were consequently convicted of sex offenses, including [[Geoffrey Prime]] and [[David Joy]]. After the International Lesbian and Gay Association was granted consultative member status within the United Nations Economic and Social Council in 1994, the United States publicly threatened to cancel its annual financial contributions of US$1 Million to the UN because ILGA had four pronouncedly "pedophile" activist member groups: NAMBLA, MARTIJN, US-based Project TRUTH, and German Verein für Sexuelle Gleichberechtigung (VSG, "Association for Sexual Equality"). As a result, the UN status of ILGA was suspended and ILGA expelled all four organizations. The German Bundesverband Homosexualität (BVH, "National Homosexuality Association") called for international protests on ILGA for expelling these groups, in spite of the fact that BVH never before had been observed as sympathizing with MAPs.<ref>[https://wiki.yesmap.net/prd/hist/ILGAexp/index.html PRD: ILGA Expulsion]</ref><ref name=BernardPad/>

	===1st wave organizations (all defunct or largely inactive)===		===1st wave organizations (all defunct or largely inactive)===

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	'''Other sites have been suggested as present or future interfaces:'''		'''Other sites have been suggested as present or future interfaces:'''

	*'''Twitch''' - the video streaming service, is a strategic frontier due to the left-wing '''"Breadtube"''' e-celebs who use it to bait the alt right. MAPs may gain access to these left-liberal groups by impersonating the alternative-right and/or planting individuals within these communities. Twitch has had many controversies concerning high-profile streamers who have in some way been (usually spuriously or weakly) linked to "pedophilia". Since Breadtube Twitch streamers tend to debate on outlandish and provocative topics, Twitch has been repeatedly touted as a future breeding ground for awareness-raising.		*'''Twitch''' - the video streaming service, is a strategic frontier due to the left-wing '''"Breadtube"''' e-celebs who use it to bait the [[Wikipedia:Alt-right\|alt-right]]. MAPs may gain access to these left-liberal groups by impersonating the alternative-right and/or planting individuals within these communities. Twitch has had many controversies concerning high-profile streamers who have in some way been (usually spuriously or weakly) linked to "pedophilia". Since Breadtube Twitch streamers tend to debate on outlandish and provocative topics, Twitch has been repeatedly touted as a future breeding ground for awareness-raising.

	*'''YouTube''' - due to its size, there have been various controversies with users making statements seeming to condone [[minor-adult sex]], and these go back into the 00s (search "dendrophilian", the guy with the dreadlocks in this video<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/102s Dendrophilian cut into this video]</ref>). These provocative videos attract a diversity of comments. Depending on Google's take on the culture-war, YouTube will be an important battleground in the decades to come.		*'''YouTube''' - due to its size, there have been various controversies with users making statements seeming to condone [[minor-adult sex]], and these go back into the 00s (search "dendrophilian", the guy with the dreadlocks in this video<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/102s Dendrophilian cut into this video]</ref>). These provocative videos attract a diversity of comments. Depending on Google's take on the culture-war, YouTube will be an important battleground in the decades to come.

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	'''Other sites have been suggested as present or future interfaces:'''		'''Other sites have been suggested as present or future interfaces:'''

	*'''Twitch''' - the video streaming service, is a strategic frontier due to the left-wing '''"Breadtube"''' e-celebs who use it to bait the ~~alternative~~ right. MAPs may gain access to these ~~leftist/SJW~~ groups by impersonating the alternative-right and/or planting individuals within these communities. Twitch has had many controversies concerning high-profile streamers who have in some way been (usually spuriously or weakly) linked to "pedophilia". Since Breadtube Twitch streamers tend to debate on outlandish and provocative topics, Twitch has been repeatedly touted as a future breeding ground for awareness-raising.		*'''Twitch''' - the video streaming service, is a strategic frontier due to the left-wing '''"Breadtube"''' e-celebs who use it to bait the alt right. MAPs may gain access to these left-liberal groups by impersonating the alternative-right and/or planting individuals within these communities. Twitch has had many controversies concerning high-profile streamers who have in some way been (usually spuriously or weakly) linked to "pedophilia". Since Breadtube Twitch streamers tend to debate on outlandish and provocative topics, Twitch has been repeatedly touted as a future breeding ground for awareness-raising.

	*'''YouTube''' - due to its size, there have been various controversies with users making statements seeming to condone [[minor-adult sex]], and these go back into the 00s (search "dendrophilian", the guy with the dreadlocks in this video<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/102s Dendrophilian cut into this video]</ref>). These provocative videos attract a diversity of comments. Depending on Google's take on the culture-war, YouTube will be an important battleground in the decades to come.		*'''YouTube''' - due to its size, there have been various controversies with users making statements seeming to condone [[minor-adult sex]], and these go back into the 00s (search "dendrophilian", the guy with the dreadlocks in this video<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/102s Dendrophilian cut into this video]</ref>). These provocative videos attract a diversity of comments. Depending on Google's take on the culture-war, YouTube will be an important battleground in the decades to come.

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	*The self-explanatory '''[[Virtuous Pedophiles]]'''.		*The self-explanatory '''[[Virtuous Pedophiles]]'''.
	*'''[[Newgon]] and the Yesmap Campaign''', which tends towards a 50/50 split of MAPs and allies, and is concerned with visibility and social media.		*'''[[Newgon]] and the Yesmap Campaign''', which tends towards a 50/50 split of MAPs and allies, and is concerned with visibility and social media.
	*'''[[MEDAL]] is an American-focused third-wave MAP group with largely progressive "east coast" values.~~'''~~		*'''[[MEDAL]]''' is an American-focused third-wave MAP group with largely progressive "east coast" values.
	*'''[[Mu]] is an Europe and Asia-focused third-wave MAP group.		*'''[[Mu]]''' is an Europe and Asia-focused third-wave MAP group.

	The well established German pro-c media portal [[Krumme13]] and the organization [[NAMBLA]] are still active at managerial level, and the latter still maintains a small network. [[Ipce]] continues as an archive, but not as a forum.		The well established German pro-c media portal [[Krumme13]] and the organization [[NAMBLA]] are still active at managerial level, and the latter still maintains a small network. [[Ipce]] continues as an archive, but not as a forum.

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	*The aforementioned '''[[B4U-ACT]]''' (a registered nonprofit and collaboration with Mental Health Professionals - public activity limited to publishing and social media).		*The aforementioned '''[[B4U-ACT]]''' (a registered nonprofit and collaboration with Mental Health Professionals - public activity limited to publishing and social media).
	*The self-explanatory '''[[Virtuous Pedophiles]]'''.		*The self-explanatory '''[[Virtuous Pedophiles]]'''.
	*'''[[Newgon]] and the Yesmap Campaign''', which tends towards a 50/50 split of MAPs and allies, and is concerned with visibility and social media.		*'''[[Newgon]] and the Yesmap Campaign''', which tends towards a 50/50 split of MAPs and allies, and is concerned with visibility and social media.
			*'''[[MEDAL]] is an American-focused third-wave MAP group with largely progressive "east coast" values.'''
			*'''[[Mu]] is an Europe and Asia-focused third-wave MAP group.

	The well established German pro-c media portal [[Krumme13]] and the organization [[NAMBLA]] are still active at managerial level, and the latter still maintains a small network. [[Ipce]] continues as an archive, but not as a forum.		The well established German pro-c media portal [[Krumme13]] and the organization [[NAMBLA]] are still active at managerial level, and the latter still maintains a small network. [[Ipce]] continues as an archive, but not as a forum.

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	Sometimes pre-internet MAP Activists are described as being part of a "first wave", and post-internet activists as a second. Under some definitions, post-[[Minor attracted community\|Tumblr]] (2016-2019) online activity is described as a third wave, due to what is seen as a generational and ideological disconnect between the [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] community and earlier online MAP community.		Sometimes pre-internet MAP Activists are described as being part of a "first wave", and post-internet activists as a second. Under some definitions, post-[[Minor attracted community\|Tumblr]] (2016-2019) online activity is described as a third wave, due to what is seen as a generational and ideological disconnect between the [[Pediverse\|Fediverse]] community and earlier online MAP community.

	==The present (second-wave) MAP Movement==		==The present (second/third-wave) MAP Movement==

	:''More information: [[Minor attracted community]] and [[Minor Attracted Person (archive research)\|development of MAP as a term]].		:''More information: [[Minor attracted community]] and [[Minor Attracted Person (archive research)\|development of MAP as a term]].

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	====Spain====		====Spain====
	* ''Lolita Club''. Bernard states: ''"There did evolve, remarkably enough in Spain, the Lolita Club, a small club in which a number of heterosexual paedophiles had united. The members corresponded anonymously with each other and exchanged non-pornographic photographs through the mail. This organization dissolved without a trace. Nothing more was heard about the founder, a businessman from Barcelona. What exactly happened will most likely never come to light."''<ref name="bernard"/>		* ''Lolita Club''. Bernard states: ''"There did evolve, remarkably enough in Spain, the Lolita Club, a small club in which a number of heterosexual paedophiles had united. The members corresponded anonymously with each other and exchanged non-pornographic photographs through the mail. This organization dissolved without a trace. Nothing more was heard about the founder, a businessman from Barcelona. What exactly happened will most likely never come to light."''<ref name="bernard"/>

			====Sweden====
			* ''Pedophile Working Group'' (working group of Riksförbundet för Sexuellt Likaberättigande - RFSL, an LGBT group). In 1983 they sent a petition to the Swedish government demanding [[Age of Consent]] reform, and in 1993 were accused of publishing a guide to child prostitution abroad. ''"RFSL explicitly wrote that "the pedophile gives tenderness and love" and that the pedophile should not be considered sick. The man behind these formulations was called Kjell Rindar and was then the confederation chairman of the RFSL. As recently as 2011, he gave the opening speech at Stockholm Pride."''<ref>[https://detgodasamhallet-com.translate.goog/2019/01/02/gastskribent-john-gustavsson-pedofilerna-och-hbtq-rorelsens-morka-historia/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl&_x_tr_pto=wapp ”Pedofilerna och HBTQ-rörelsens mörka historia” i Det goda samhället, 2019-01-02]</ref>

	====Switzerland====		====Switzerland====

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	====France====		====France====
	* [[GRED\|''Groupe de Recherche pour une Enfance Différente'']] (GRED), 1979–1987. The group published the bulletin ''[[Le Petit Gredin]]'' (''The Little Rogue / Rascal'').<ref name="pimo">Pablo Santiago (2004, Chapter: Colectivos a favor de la pedofilia) in ''Alicia en el lado oscuro'' (Esp), pages 387–391, isbn=84-95882-46-9</ref>		* [[GRED\|''Groupe de Recherche pour une Enfance Différente'']] (GRED), 1979–1987. The group published the bulletin ''[[Le Petit Gredin]]'' (''The Little Rogue / Rascal'').<ref name="pimo">Pablo Santiago (2004, Chapter: Colectivos a favor de la pedofilia) in ''Alicia en el lado oscuro'' (Esp), pages 387–391, isbn=84-95882-46-9</ref>
	* [[CRIES\|''Le Centre de recherche et d'information sur l'enfance et la sexualité'']] (CRIES), 1982-1986~~. Successor to GRED~~. Published ''L'Espoir'' (''Hope''). After a massive international police operation known as the 'CRIES Affaire' led to prosecution of at least 11 people, CRIES effectively disbanded which marked the end of the 1st-wave MAP Movement in France.		* [[CRIES\|''Le Centre de recherche et d'information sur l'enfance et la sexualité'']] (CRIES), 1982-1986. Published ''L'Espoir'' (''Hope''). After a massive international police operation known as the 'CRIES Affaire' led to prosecution of at least 11 people, CRIES effectively disbanded which marked the end of the 1st-wave MAP Movement in France.

	====Germany====		====Germany====