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	'''Nelson Maatman''' is a young, second-wave [[Minor Attracted Person\|MAP]] activist from the Netherlands, nonexclusive [[boylove]]r and former chair of the dissolved [[PNVD]]. He is currently incarcerated in Mexico.		'''Nelson Maatman''' is a young, second-wave [[Minor Attracted Person\|MAP]] activist from the Netherlands, nonexclusive [[boylove]]r and former chair of the dissolved [[PNVD]]. He is currently incarcerated in Mexico.

	In 2022, he was threatened with jail for continuing the activities of the banned political organization, [[Vereniging MARTIJN]], which ceased operation before he became active as a campaigner. He has been known leave the Netherlands at various points, and this has sometimes characterized as "fleeing" the country in light of his legal struggles. In 2022, it was revealed that he was seeking political asylum in Mexico, following the inconclusive results of the above-mentioned trial in the Netherlands.<ref>[https://~~www.freespeechtube~~.~~org/user~~/~~Nelson Nelson: FST~~]</ref> He has since been arrested, and appears to have lost control of the information narrative surrounding his case, making occasional posts on FreeSpeechTube appealing for help. His dramatic ensnarement was carried out in front of multiple camera men, and his arrest was aided at the operational level by an NGO with suspected links to Q-Anon, and followed by multiple inaccurate and defamatory news articles.		In 2022, he was threatened with jail for continuing the activities of the banned political organization, [[Vereniging MARTIJN]], which ceased operation before he became active as a campaigner. He has been known leave the Netherlands at various points, and this has sometimes characterized as "fleeing" the country in light of his legal struggles. In 2022, it was revealed that he was seeking political asylum in Mexico, following the inconclusive results of the above-mentioned trial in the Netherlands.<ref>Free Speech Tube: Nelson Maatman. Now erased from Web Archive. [https://archive.is/MBkVT Remaining archive].</ref> He has since been arrested, and appears to have lost control of the information narrative surrounding his case, making occasional posts on FreeSpeechTube appealing for help. His dramatic ensnarement was carried out in front of multiple camera men, and his arrest was aided at the operational level by an NGO with suspected links to Q-Anon, and followed by multiple inaccurate and defamatory news articles.

	Since his arrest, multiple accounts and reports concerning Nelson Maatman and his daily life have emerged from a third party who has control his channel on FreeSpeechTube. Nelson's support network back in the Netherlands have confirmed that they are in touch with Nelson, have verified that it is not an impersonator, and that the third party running the FST channel is in touch with Nelson.		Since his arrest, multiple accounts and reports concerning Nelson Maatman and his daily life have emerged from a third party who has control his channel on FreeSpeechTube. Nelson's support network back in the Netherlands have confirmed that they are in touch with Nelson, have verified that it is not an impersonator, and that the third party running the FST channel is in touch with Nelson.
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	==Background==		==Background==

	Maatman first came to the public's attention after he sought to make an appearance at Amsterdam’s annual Pride march in the summer of 2019. He had devised a social experiment whereby he attempted to [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|bring back the tradition]] of advocating for minor and MAP rights at Pride events. Maatman has taken part in a number of "pride walks" carrying a flag that bares the [[Childlove\|CLogo]]. He has been officially barred from pride events however, and has since appealed to human rights organizations. Maatman also took part in a viral television interview, in which he made provocative statements about sexual relationships between adults and minors.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBC5X8l4uOU YouTube (Dutch)] and ~~[https://www.~~freespeechtube.org/v/16bl English Translation]</ref> Soon-after this interview, he was arrested under statutes on illegal images, but no solid evidence has thus far been indicated.		Maatman first came to the public's attention after he sought to make an appearance at Amsterdam’s annual Pride march in the summer of 2019. He had devised a social experiment whereby he attempted to [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity\|bring back the tradition]] of advocating for minor and MAP rights at Pride events. Maatman has taken part in a number of "pride walks" carrying a flag that bares the [[Childlove\|CLogo]]. He has been officially barred from pride events however, and has since appealed to human rights organizations. Maatman also took part in a viral television interview, in which he made provocative statements about sexual relationships between adults and minors.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBC5X8l4uOU YouTube (Dutch)] and '''freespeechtube.org/v/16bl''' English Translation - No apparent archive</ref> Soon-after this interview, he was arrested under statutes on illegal images, but no solid evidence has thus far been indicated.

	==2021 Prosecution==		==2021 Prosecution==
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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to Nelson, all the allegations are false, and he was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST (3rd party account)]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's (3rd party account) 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's (3rd party account) Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> He denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, in a series of dramatic accounts of daily life. These include celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and accounts of Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen ~~in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs~~ FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of some claims made via the account, and his fundraising efforts, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.~~<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's (3rd party account) 3rd text post incarceration]</ref>~~ Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.~~<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's (3rd party account) 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>~~		Since his incarceration, Maatman has communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to Nelson's now-defunct FST account, all the allegations are false, and he was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]]. He denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, in a series of dramatic accounts of daily life. These include celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and accounts of Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen on FST, 23 Jan, 2023 - no archive.</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of some claims made via the account, and his fundraising efforts, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles. Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.

	====Preparation for trial====		====Preparation for trial====

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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to Nelson, all the allegations are false, and he was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST (3rd party account)]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's (3rd party account) 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's (3rd party account) Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> He denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, in a series of dramatic accounts of daily life. These include celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and accounts of Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of some claims made via the account, and his fundraising efforts, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's (3rd party account) 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's (3rd party account) 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>		Since his incarceration, Maatman has communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to Nelson, all the allegations are false, and he was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST (3rd party account)]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's (3rd party account) 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's (3rd party account) Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> He denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, in a series of dramatic accounts of daily life. These include celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and accounts of Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of some claims made via the account, and his fundraising efforts, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's (3rd party account) 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's (3rd party account) 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>

			====Preparation for trial====

			Early signs suggest that police are not relying on any electronic evidence, running counter to what was originally claimed in the media. They have instead, invented a claim that Maatman dropped a "folder full of child porn prints" at the scene of his arrest. This porn was said to feature girls. Maatman is gay, and video evidence from O.U.R. appears to suggest that Maatman did not drop any such folder at the point he was said to.

	==External Links==		==External Links==

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	==2021 Prosecution==		==2021 Prosecution==

	In March 2021, [[Marthijn Uittenbogaard]] announced that he, Maatman, [[Norbert de Jonge]] and [[Ad van den Berg]] were being prosecuted for allegedly participating in a criminal organization. The evidence offered by the prosecution was spurious, alleging that Twitter comments and the maintenance of an academic archive constituted the continuation of an organization deemed 'criminal' under a highly controversial Dutch law.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210320201505/https://marthijn.nl/p/218 I am being prosecuted - Marthijn.nl Archive]</ref> On 12 March, 2022, a Dutch court sentenced both De Jonge and Uittenbogaard to prison for continuing Martijn's political activities. Maatman had to be assigned new judges because of a mistake by the district court, but then left the country and openly sought asylum in Mexico, residing at an address in Mexico City for 3-4 months.<ref>[https://nltimes.nl/2022/03/12/members-banned-pedophile-association-sentenced-prison NL Times - Court Decision]</ref> It later emerged that Uittenbogaard and and his partner had also fled for South America, but in a more covert manner - not disclosing their location.		In March 2021, [[Marthijn Uittenbogaard]] announced that he, Maatman, [[Norbert de Jonge]] and [[Ad van den Berg]] were being prosecuted for allegedly participating in a criminal organization. The evidence offered by the prosecution was spurious, alleging that [[MAP visibility on Twitter\|Twitter]] comments and the maintenance of an academic archive constituted the continuation of an organization deemed 'criminal' under a highly controversial Dutch law.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210320201505/https://marthijn.nl/p/218 I am being prosecuted - Marthijn.nl Archive]</ref> On 12 March, 2022, a Dutch court sentenced both De Jonge and Uittenbogaard to prison for continuing Martijn's political activities. Maatman had to be assigned new judges because of a mistake by the district court, but then left the country and openly sought asylum in Mexico, residing at an address in Mexico City for 3-4 months.<ref>[https://nltimes.nl/2022/03/12/members-banned-pedophile-association-sentenced-prison NL Times - Court Decision]</ref> It later emerged that Uittenbogaard and and his partner had also fled for South America, but in a more covert manner - not disclosing their location.

	===Dramatic arrest in Mexico, and prospects of deportation===		===Dramatic arrest in Mexico, and prospects of deportation===

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	In 2022, he was threatened with jail for continuing the activities of the banned political organization, [[Vereniging MARTIJN]], which ceased operation before he became active as a campaigner. He has been known leave the Netherlands at various points, and this has sometimes characterized as "fleeing" the country in light of his legal struggles. In 2022, it was revealed that he was seeking political asylum in Mexico, following the inconclusive results of the above-mentioned trial in the Netherlands.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/user/Nelson Nelson: FST]</ref> He has since been arrested, and appears to have lost control of the information narrative surrounding his case, making occasional posts on FreeSpeechTube appealing for help. His dramatic ensnarement was carried out in front of multiple camera men, and his arrest was aided at the operational level by an NGO with suspected links to Q-Anon, and followed by multiple inaccurate and defamatory news articles.		In 2022, he was threatened with jail for continuing the activities of the banned political organization, [[Vereniging MARTIJN]], which ceased operation before he became active as a campaigner. He has been known leave the Netherlands at various points, and this has sometimes characterized as "fleeing" the country in light of his legal struggles. In 2022, it was revealed that he was seeking political asylum in Mexico, following the inconclusive results of the above-mentioned trial in the Netherlands.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/user/Nelson Nelson: FST]</ref> He has since been arrested, and appears to have lost control of the information narrative surrounding his case, making occasional posts on FreeSpeechTube appealing for help. His dramatic ensnarement was carried out in front of multiple camera men, and his arrest was aided at the operational level by an NGO with suspected links to Q-Anon, and followed by multiple inaccurate and defamatory news articles.

	Since his arrest, multiple ~~unverified~~ accounts and reports concerning Nelson Maatman have emerged. ~~Newgon~~ is in ~~the process of contacting Maatman's lawyer to verify said accounts~~.		Since his arrest, multiple accounts and reports concerning Nelson Maatman and his daily life have emerged from a third party who has control his channel on FreeSpeechTube. Nelson's support network back in the Netherlands have confirmed that they are in touch with Nelson, have verified that it is not an impersonator, and that the third party running the FST channel is in touch with Nelson.

	==Background==		==Background==
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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has ~~allegedly~~ communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. ~~''There is at this point, no confirmation (from any lawyer, person close~~ to Nelson~~, or Nelson himself) that Nelson is aware of these messages, or endorses their content.'' According to the account~~, all the allegations are false, and ~~Maatman~~ was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST (3rd party account)]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's (3rd party account) 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's (3rd party account) Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> ~~The account~~ denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, ~~including some arguably fantastical elements such as~~ a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of claims made via the account, ~~be they from Maatman or elsewhere~~, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's (3rd party account) 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's (3rd party account) 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>		Since his incarceration, Maatman has communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to Nelson, all the allegations are false, and he was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST (3rd party account)]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's (3rd party account) 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's (3rd party account) Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> He denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, in a series of dramatic accounts of daily life. These include celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and accounts of Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of some claims made via the account, and his fundraising efforts, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's (3rd party account) 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's (3rd party account) 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>

	==External Links==		==External Links==

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	It has variously been claimed in "news" sources that Maatman is the "Founder of a Children's Liberation Front", and was caught "making an [sic] grownup video with a toddler". At one point, mainstream news sources such as the UK's Daily Mail started referring to him as "Jason Maatman".<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html "Jason Maatman" error] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20220617093528/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html archive]</ref> In late June, 2022, Maatman was again mentioned in media stories, following the further arrests of PNVD old-guard who had fled to Ecuador. In this instance, it was alleged that Maatman was involved in the grand-scale orchestration of [[Child Sexual Abuse]] in the country, despite having left for Central and South America, only months earlier.<ref>[https://www-leidschdagblad-nl.translate.goog/cnt/dmf20220624_66241666?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pt-BR&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translation: Leiden Pedophile Marthijn U. arrested in Ecuador, lured village children to his hotel on the coast]</ref> In July, one suspect News Site claimed that Maatman had been raped in his jail cell, although this appears to be based on claims from his lawyer that he was facing "immoral humiliations".<ref>[https://blijned.nl/actueel/32569/pedo-activist-nelson-m-verkrcht-in-mexicaanse-cel/ "Rape" claim (in Dutch).]</ref>		It has variously been claimed in "news" sources that Maatman is the "Founder of a Children's Liberation Front", and was caught "making an [sic] grownup video with a toddler". At one point, mainstream news sources such as the UK's Daily Mail started referring to him as "Jason Maatman".<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html "Jason Maatman" error] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20220617093528/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html archive]</ref> In late June, 2022, Maatman was again mentioned in media stories, following the further arrests of PNVD old-guard who had fled to Ecuador. In this instance, it was alleged that Maatman was involved in the grand-scale orchestration of [[Child Sexual Abuse]] in the country, despite having left for Central and South America, only months earlier.<ref>[https://www-leidschdagblad-nl.translate.goog/cnt/dmf20220624_66241666?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pt-BR&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translation: Leiden Pedophile Marthijn U. arrested in Ecuador, lured village children to his hotel on the coast]</ref> In July, one suspect News Site claimed that Maatman had been raped in his jail cell, although this appears to be based on claims from his lawyer that he was facing "immoral humiliations".<ref>[https://blijned.nl/actueel/32569/pedo-activist-nelson-m-verkrcht-in-mexicaanse-cel/ "Rape" claim (in Dutch).]</ref><ref>[https://panorama-nl.translate.goog/artikel/482711/pedoactivist-nelson-m-in-mexicaanse-cel-onzedelijke-vernederingen-door-medegevangen?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Dutch News article in which Hiddema (Maatman's Lawyer) is quoted on contact made with Nelson]</ref>

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	In 2022, he was threatened with jail for continuing the activities of the banned political organization, [[Vereniging MARTIJN]], which ceased operation before he became active as a campaigner. He has been known leave the Netherlands at various points, and this has sometimes characterized as "fleeing" the country in light of his legal struggles. In 2022, it was revealed that he was seeking political asylum in Mexico, following the inconclusive results of the above-mentioned trial in the Netherlands.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/user/Nelson Nelson: FST]</ref> He has since been arrested, and appears to have lost control of the information narrative surrounding his case, making occasional posts on FreeSpeechTube appealing for help. His dramatic ensnarement was carried out in front of multiple camera men, and his arrest was aided at the operational level by an NGO with suspected links to Q-Anon, and followed by multiple inaccurate and defamatory news articles.		In 2022, he was threatened with jail for continuing the activities of the banned political organization, [[Vereniging MARTIJN]], which ceased operation before he became active as a campaigner. He has been known leave the Netherlands at various points, and this has sometimes characterized as "fleeing" the country in light of his legal struggles. In 2022, it was revealed that he was seeking political asylum in Mexico, following the inconclusive results of the above-mentioned trial in the Netherlands.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/user/Nelson Nelson: FST]</ref> He has since been arrested, and appears to have lost control of the information narrative surrounding his case, making occasional posts on FreeSpeechTube appealing for help. His dramatic ensnarement was carried out in front of multiple camera men, and his arrest was aided at the operational level by an NGO with suspected links to Q-Anon, and followed by multiple inaccurate and defamatory news articles.

			Since his arrest, multiple unverified accounts and reports concerning Nelson Maatman have emerged. Newgon is in the process of contacting Maatman's lawyer to verify said accounts.

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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has allegedly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. ''There is at this point, no confirmation (from any lawyer, person close to Nelson, or Nelson himself) that Nelson is aware of these messages, or endorses their content.'' According to the account, all the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantastical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of claims made via the account, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>		Since his incarceration, Maatman has allegedly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. ''There is at this point, no confirmation (from any lawyer, person close to Nelson, or Nelson himself) that Nelson is aware of these messages, or endorses their content.'' According to the account, all the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST (3rd party account)]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's (3rd party account) 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's (3rd party account) Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantastical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of claims made via the account, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's (3rd party account) 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's (3rd party account) 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>

	==External Links==		==External Links==

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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has allegedly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. ''There is ~~so far~~ no confirmation (from any lawyer, person close to Nelson, or Nelson himself) that Nelson is aware of these messages, or endorses their content.'' According to the account, all the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantastical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of claims made via the account, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>		Since his incarceration, Maatman has allegedly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. ''There is at this point, no confirmation (from any lawyer, person close to Nelson, or Nelson himself) that Nelson is aware of these messages, or endorses their content.'' According to the account, all the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantastical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of claims made via the account, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>

	==External Links==		==External Links==

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	It has variously been claimed in "news" sources that Maatman is the "Founder of a Children's Liberation Front", and was caught "making an [sic] grownup video with a toddler". At one point, mainstream news sources such as the UK's Daily Mail started referring to him as "Jason Maatman".<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html "Jason Maatman" error] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20220617093528/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html archive]</ref> In late June, 2022, Maatman was again mentioned in media stories, following the further arrests of PNVD old-guard who had fled to Ecuador. In this instance, it was alleged that Maatman was involved in the grand-scale orchestration of [[Child Sexual Abuse]] in the country, despite having left for Central and South America, only months earlier.<ref>[https://www-leidschdagblad-nl.translate.goog/cnt/dmf20220624_66241666?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pt-BR&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translation: Leiden Pedophile Marthijn U. arrested in Ecuador, lured village children to his hotel on the coast]</ref> In July, one suspect News Site claimed that Maatman had been raped in his jail cell, although this appears to be based on claims from his lawyer that he was facing "immoral humiliations".<ref>[https://blijned.nl/actueel/32569/pedo-activist-nelson-m-verkrcht-in-mexicaanse-cel/ "Rape" claim (in Dutch).]</ref>		It has variously been claimed in "news" sources that Maatman is the "Founder of a Children's Liberation Front", and was caught "making an [sic] grownup video with a toddler". At one point, mainstream news sources such as the UK's Daily Mail started referring to him as "Jason Maatman".<ref>[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html "Jason Maatman" error] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20220617093528/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10926375/Electronic-sniffing-dog-helps-pedophilia-arrest-Mexico.html archive]</ref> In late June, 2022, Maatman was again mentioned in media stories, following the further arrests of PNVD old-guard who had fled to Ecuador. In this instance, it was alleged that Maatman was involved in the grand-scale orchestration of [[Child Sexual Abuse]] in the country, despite having left for Central and South America, only months earlier.<ref>[https://www-leidschdagblad-nl.translate.goog/cnt/dmf20220624_66241666?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=pt-BR&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translation: Leiden Pedophile Marthijn U. arrested in Ecuador, lured village children to his hotel on the coast]</ref> In July, one suspect News Site claimed that Maatman had been raped in his jail cell, although this appears to be based on claims from his lawyer that he was facing "immoral humiliations".<ref>[https://blijned.nl/actueel/32569/pedo-activist-nelson-m-verkrcht-in-mexicaanse-cel/ "Rape" claim (in Dutch).]</ref>

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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has ~~seemingly~~ communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to the account, all of the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. ~~Owing~~ to the ~~scarcity~~ of ~~reliable evidence~~, ~~Maatman could be deported~~ to ~~The Netherlands~~, ~~without charges being initiated~~ in ~~Mexico~~, but ~~according~~ to the ~~account~~, ~~this would require legal~~ and ~~financial assistance~~.<~~ref~~>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/~~18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration~~]</ref> ~~The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantasitical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police.~~ Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of ~~these~~ claims, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref>		Since his incarceration, Maatman has allegedly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. ''There is so far no confirmation (from any lawyer, person close to Nelson, or Nelson himself) that Nelson is aware of these messages, or endorses their content.'' According to the account, all the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantastical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police, an unlikely fight scene, and Nelson's sexual relations.<ref><small>"As I look up I see about 10 inmates with pipes and sticks, ready to attack me. They drag the guy away. They're yelling at me. I'm pissed off as hell. "Which one of you motherfuckers wants to fight me next? Come at me friend!" I yell at them in Spanish. They point their weapons at me, but each one that comes near I toss to the floor. One guy throws a wooden beam at me. He misses and it lands at my feet. I pick it up. Walk to the guy, grab his collar and raise the beam above him. "What are you doing? You just gave me a weapon you fucking idiot." I say in Spanish. I push the guy to the other inmates and toss the wooden beam away. "Go! Leave!" I yell in Spanish. They finally listen. [...] Then there is this cute as fuck 19-year-old Mexican guy. It takes me so much effort to understand anything he's saying. My Spanish sucks, I mainly know how to verbally fight, how to swear and scold people. I want to say sweet things to him, but on the other hand I don't want to talk about the future, he obviously does. Maybe not being able to talk about much has it's benefits. We go to the prison gym, there is a place where we can have some privacy. He's sweet, and has quite the ... appetite."</small> seen in [https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19hs FST, 23 Jan, 2023]</ref> Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of claims made via the account, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have importantly not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref> Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref>

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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has seemingly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to the account, all of the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref> The account ~~later~~ relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantasitical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police. Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of these claims, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have not questioned his innocence.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref>		Since his incarceration, Maatman has seemingly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to the account, all of the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref> The account has at points relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantasitical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police. Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of these claims, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have not questioned his innocence, deeming him largely incapable of organizing within criminal circles.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref>

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	Since his incarceration, Maatman has seemingly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to the account, all of the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref> The account later relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantasitical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police. Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of these claims, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have not questioned his innocence.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref>		Since his incarceration, Maatman has seemingly communicated with a "third party", who has in turn posted to Free Speech Tube using Maatman's account. According to the account, all of the allegations are false, and Maatman was set-up by [[Operation Underground Railroad\|Tim Ballard]].<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18p4 FST Text - Nelson Maatman]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/197v Nelson's Tim Ballard accusation on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/1992 Nelson's 2022 Arrest Testimony from 2023 on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/199b Jan 2023 Nelson Q&A on FST]</ref><ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/19bm Nelson's Asylum Request - 2023 testimony on FST]</ref> The account denies he was raped, but alleges mistreatment. Owing to the scarcity of reliable evidence, Maatman could be deported to The Netherlands, without charges being initiated in Mexico, but according to the account, this would require legal and financial assistance.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18rj Nelson's 2nd text post incarceration]</ref> The account later relayed a somewhat harsher interpretation of Maatman's experiences, including some arguably fantasitical elements such as a celebration of Nazism among the Mexican Police. Former colleagues have publicly doubted the veracity of these claims, be they from Maatman or elsewhere, but have not questioned his innocence.<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/18xp Nelson's 3rd text post incarceration]</ref>

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