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	*'''Robert van de Walle et al. (2012). [https://sci-hub.st/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/00224499.2011.618955?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed Young Dutch People's Experiences of Trading Sex: A Qualitative Study], ''Journal of Sex Research'', 49:6, 547-557'''		*'''Robert van de Walle et al. (2012). [https://sci-hub.st/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/00224499.2011.618955?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed Young Dutch People's Experiences of Trading Sex: A Qualitative Study], ''Journal of Sex Research'', 49:6, 547-557'''
	*:"Notably, all three heterosexual men in our sample were predominantly positive about their experiences (which, in all cases, involved sex with a female partner). Their accounts lacked the strong feelings of regret and shame that were common in the accounts of other participants, especially women."		*:"Notably, all three heterosexual men in our sample were predominantly positive about their experiences (which, in all cases, involved sex with a female partner). Their accounts lacked the strong feelings of regret and shame that were common in the accounts of other participants, especially women."
			*:"Sex was sometimes mentioned as a relatively easy way of earning money. For some participants, especially those with few formal educational qualifications, it compared favorably to other jobs that were available to them. Participants especially mentioned working in a supermarket (e.g., stacking shelves) as the typical example of a job that was readily available, but unpleasant and badly paid. By comparison, having sex for money was better paid, required less time and effort, and was easier to plan around school and other responsibilities".

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	*:Based on the available evidence it is difficult to support the prevailing assumptions about universal harm to the young models and actors. Based on the Rind et al. studies, boys especially seem unlikely to suffer great harm. Probably some are hurt, some benefit, and most are not strongly affected."		*:Based on the available evidence it is difficult to support the prevailing assumptions about universal harm to the young models and actors. Based on the Rind et al. studies, boys especially seem unlikely to suffer great harm. Probably some are hurt, some benefit, and most are not strongly affected."

	*'''Robert van de Walle et al. (2012). [https://sci-hub.st/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/00224499.2011.618955?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed Young Dutch People's Experiences of Trading Sex: A Qualitative Study], ''Journal of Sex Research'', 49:6, 547-557.'''		*'''Robert van de Walle et al. (2012). [https://sci-hub.st/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/00224499.2011.618955?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed Young Dutch People's Experiences of Trading Sex: A Qualitative Study], ''Journal of Sex Research'', 49:6, 547-557'''

	*:"Notably, all three heterosexual men in our sample were predominantly positive about their experiences (which, in all cases, involved sex with a female partner). Their accounts lacked the strong feelings of regret and shame that were common in the accounts of other participants, especially women."		*:"Notably, all three heterosexual men in our sample were predominantly positive about their experiences (which, in all cases, involved sex with a female partner). Their accounts lacked the strong feelings of regret and shame that were common in the accounts of other participants, especially women."

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	*:"People who were familiar with the child pornography world have told me that in Eastern Europe, where most of the current male child pornography is produced, many of the boys modeling and acting in child pornography are street hustlers, who survive largely by selling sex and who view it as an easy gig. There are many reasons for them to model, including money, showing off, coercion, affection for the photographer, a road to modeling career, and daredevil impulses to violate social norms. They do not think that being photographed nude is a big deal. The girl models in Japan are often treated like stars and have Web sites devoted to them. For long periods, photographs that we would currently call child pornography have been legal, and there is no evidence that the models were hurt. Artist models at various times have shown little evidence of harm, and the subjects of major photographers like Sturges, Mann, and Hamilton (who all have been accused, but exonerated, of making child pornography) have said that their experiences were positive ones.		*:"People who were familiar with the child pornography world have told me that in Eastern Europe, where most of the current male child pornography is produced, many of the boys modeling and acting in child pornography are street hustlers, who survive largely by selling sex and who view it as an easy gig. There are many reasons for them to model, including money, showing off, coercion, affection for the photographer, a road to modeling career, and daredevil impulses to violate social norms. They do not think that being photographed nude is a big deal. The girl models in Japan are often treated like stars and have Web sites devoted to them. For long periods, photographs that we would currently call child pornography have been legal, and there is no evidence that the models were hurt. Artist models at various times have shown little evidence of harm, and the subjects of major photographers like Sturges, Mann, and Hamilton (who all have been accused, but exonerated, of making child pornography) have said that their experiences were positive ones.
	*:Based on the available evidence it is difficult to support the prevailing assumptions about universal harm to the young models and actors. Based on the Rind et al. studies, boys especially seem unlikely to suffer great harm. Probably some are hurt, some benefit, and most are not strongly affected."		*:Based on the available evidence it is difficult to support the prevailing assumptions about universal harm to the young models and actors. Based on the Rind et al. studies, boys especially seem unlikely to suffer great harm. Probably some are hurt, some benefit, and most are not strongly affected."

			*'''Robert van de Walle et al. (2012). [https://sci-hub.st/https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/10.1080/00224499.2011.618955?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori:rid:crossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%20%200pubmed Young Dutch People's Experiences of Trading Sex: A Qualitative Study], ''Journal of Sex Research'', 49:6, 547-557.'''

			*:"Notably, all three heterosexual men in our sample were predominantly positive about their experiences (which, in all cases, involved sex with a female partner). Their accounts lacked the strong feelings of regret and shame that were common in the accounts of other participants, especially women."

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	*:"The assumption that children involved in incest are passive, unwilling victims is an oversimplification of a complex situation. Young children may find such relationships gratifying and, when exposed over time to intense genital and extragenital stimulation, they often become highly erotic."		*:"The assumption that children involved in incest are passive, unwilling victims is an oversimplification of a complex situation. Young children may find such relationships gratifying and, when exposed over time to intense genital and extragenital stimulation, they often become highly erotic."

	'''David Lester, (1972). [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224497209550762 Incest], ''The Journal of Sex Research'', 8:4, 268-285'''.		*'''David Lester, (1972). [https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00224497209550762 Incest], ''The Journal of Sex Research'', 8:4, 268-285'''.
	*:“Extensive bias is present in the research carried out on the participants in incest. First, the majority of subjects who come to the attention of researchers are those brought to court as a result of the incest behavior. This increases the apparent incidence in families from the lower social classes and the likelihood of incest being noted in disorganized, unstable families, since these variables increase the chances that the incest will be reported and legal action instituted.		*:“Extensive bias is present in the research carried out on the participants in incest. First, the majority of subjects who come to the attention of researchers are those brought to court as a result of the incest behavior. This increases the apparent incidence in families from the lower social classes and the likelihood of incest being noted in disorganized, unstable families, since these variables increase the chances that the incest will be reported and legal action instituted.
	*:A second source of bias is that many reports of incest in the literature come from families in which some members are in therapy. This increases the likelihood that the participants will be seen as psychologically disturbed. These biases are apparent in that most cases of incest reported are instances of father-daughter incest whereas brother-sister incest is much more common.		*:A second source of bias is that many reports of incest in the literature come from families in which some members are in therapy. This increases the likelihood that the participants will be seen as psychologically disturbed. These biases are apparent in that most cases of incest reported are instances of father-daughter incest whereas brother-sister incest is much more common.

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	*:Webe Web Corporation, a Florida (USA) based child modelling company was raided by the FBI and prosecuted under the allegation that they produced child pornography, although Webe Web never published a single video or picture of a naked underage girl and the Government itself admitted to "uncooperative witnesses" (see above). Out of over half a million photographs of non nude child modelling, the prosecutor only picked up a few dozen of them for the trial. Even after the Court was informed that the parents all were aware of the photoshoots and present when they took place, it was also learned that Webe Web made over a million dollars in profit, not surprisingly six former Webe Web models asked for restitution money, some up to $150,000, six other models declined, and three other child models and their parents did not even want to speak with Government agencies investigating the hypothetical "child abuse". In light of the situation and risking a 30 year prison sentence the defendants thought it wiser to plead guilty in exchange for a lighter sentence. Jeffrey Robert Libman was sentenced to 108 months (9 years) imprisonment followed by supervised release for the remainder of his natural life, Libman was also ordered to pay $1,600.00 in special assessments, and agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution. Jeff Pierson was sentenced to 67 months (approximately 6 years) imprisonment to be followed by 10 years of supervised release. Marc Evan Greenberg was sentenced to 33 months (approximately 3 years) imprisonment followed by 3 years of supervised release. Greenberg agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution.		*:Webe Web Corporation, a Florida (USA) based child modelling company was raided by the FBI and prosecuted under the allegation that they produced child pornography, although Webe Web never published a single video or picture of a naked underage girl and the Government itself admitted to "uncooperative witnesses" (see above). Out of over half a million photographs of non nude child modelling, the prosecutor only picked up a few dozen of them for the trial. Even after the Court was informed that the parents all were aware of the photoshoots and present when they took place, it was also learned that Webe Web made over a million dollars in profit, not surprisingly six former Webe Web models asked for restitution money, some up to $150,000, six other models declined, and three other child models and their parents did not even want to speak with Government agencies investigating the hypothetical "child abuse". In light of the situation and risking a 30 year prison sentence the defendants thought it wiser to plead guilty in exchange for a lighter sentence. Jeffrey Robert Libman was sentenced to 108 months (9 years) imprisonment followed by supervised release for the remainder of his natural life, Libman was also ordered to pay $1,600.00 in special assessments, and agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution. Jeff Pierson was sentenced to 67 months (approximately 6 years) imprisonment to be followed by 10 years of supervised release. Marc Evan Greenberg was sentenced to 33 months (approximately 3 years) imprisonment followed by 3 years of supervised release. Greenberg agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution.
	:*'''See hatchet job by NBC:''' [https://fstube.net/w/rSYdz9cLpvMSAi3FGdXKk4 Bailey Model Talks to NBC about Webe Web] ([https://www.veoh.com/watch/v15612826nAkn8n9t backup]).		:*'''See hatchet job by NBC:''' [https://fstube.net/w/rSYdz9cLpvMSAi3FGdXKk4 Bailey Model Talks to NBC about Webe Web] ([https://www.veoh.com/watch/v15612826nAkn8n9t backup]).
	:*'''See for similar:''' [https://fstube.net/w/neaVK5ht1H4DV2Bm7GUPoT Masha Babko breaks silence] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlEBwUAWge4 backup]). The ~~full~~ interview can be found [https://fstube.net/w/booaavhfw2Jwh8CVTmSTWc here] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KOJ3KiJpwE backup]).		:*'''See for similar:''' [https://fstube.net/w/neaVK5ht1H4DV2Bm7GUPoT Masha Babko breaks silence] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlEBwUAWge4 backup]). The complete interview (in Russian) can be found [https://fstube.net/w/booaavhfw2Jwh8CVTmSTWc here] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KOJ3KiJpwE backup]).

	*'''Inciardi, J. (1984). "[https://www.newgon.net/prd/lib/Inciardi1984.html Little girls and sex: A glimpse at the world of the “baby pro”]" ''Deviant Behaviour'', Volume 5, 1984 - Issue 1-4'''		*'''Inciardi, J. (1984). "[https://www.newgon.net/prd/lib/Inciardi1984.html Little girls and sex: A glimpse at the world of the “baby pro”]" ''Deviant Behaviour'', Volume 5, 1984 - Issue 1-4'''

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	*'''Speak Out Campaign''' re. [[Webe Web\|Webe Web]] testimony. Positive feedback from multiple girls used in supposed "Child Pornography" ([https://fstube.net/w/3sbUpVmqz2wqXq7j3jNej4 example 1] - [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsowwj backup], [https://fstube.net/w/doasCmZDhCH2KAn16vKm9x example 2] - [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsowsb backup]).		*'''Speak Out Campaign''' re. [[Webe Web\|Webe Web]] testimony. Positive feedback from multiple girls used in supposed "Child Pornography" ([https://fstube.net/w/3sbUpVmqz2wqXq7j3jNej4 example 1] - [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsowwj backup], [https://fstube.net/w/doasCmZDhCH2KAn16vKm9x example 2] - [https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsowsb backup]).
	*:Webe Web Corporation, a Florida (USA) based child modelling company was raided by the FBI and prosecuted under the allegation that they produced child pornography, although Webe Web never published a single video or picture of a naked underage girl and the Government itself admitted to "uncooperative witnesses" (see above). Out of over half a million photographs of non nude child modelling, the prosecutor only picked up a few dozen of them for the trial. Even after the Court was informed that the parents all were aware of the photoshoots and present when they took place, it was also learned that Webe Web made over a million dollars in profit, not surprisingly six former Webe Web models asked for restitution money, some up to $150,000, six other models declined, and three other child models and their parents did not even want to speak with Government agencies investigating the hypothetical "child abuse". In light of the situation and risking a 30 year prison sentence the defendants thought it wiser to plead guilty in exchange for a lighter sentence. Jeffrey Robert Libman was sentenced to 108 months (9 years) imprisonment followed by supervised release for the remainder of his natural life, Libman was also ordered to pay $1,600.00 in special assessments, and agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution. Jeff Pierson was sentenced to 67 months (approximately 6 years) imprisonment to be followed by 10 years of supervised release. Marc Evan Greenberg was sentenced to 33 months (approximately 3 years) imprisonment followed by 3 years of supervised release. Greenberg agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution.		*:Webe Web Corporation, a Florida (USA) based child modelling company was raided by the FBI and prosecuted under the allegation that they produced child pornography, although Webe Web never published a single video or picture of a naked underage girl and the Government itself admitted to "uncooperative witnesses" (see above). Out of over half a million photographs of non nude child modelling, the prosecutor only picked up a few dozen of them for the trial. Even after the Court was informed that the parents all were aware of the photoshoots and present when they took place, it was also learned that Webe Web made over a million dollars in profit, not surprisingly six former Webe Web models asked for restitution money, some up to $150,000, six other models declined, and three other child models and their parents did not even want to speak with Government agencies investigating the hypothetical "child abuse". In light of the situation and risking a 30 year prison sentence the defendants thought it wiser to plead guilty in exchange for a lighter sentence. Jeffrey Robert Libman was sentenced to 108 months (9 years) imprisonment followed by supervised release for the remainder of his natural life, Libman was also ordered to pay $1,600.00 in special assessments, and agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution. Jeff Pierson was sentenced to 67 months (approximately 6 years) imprisonment to be followed by 10 years of supervised release. Marc Evan Greenberg was sentenced to 33 months (approximately 3 years) imprisonment followed by 3 years of supervised release. Greenberg agreed to forfeit all criminal proceeds to pay restitution.
	:*'''See for similar''' [https://fstube.net/w/neaVK5ht1H4DV2Bm7GUPoT Masha Babko breaks silence] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlEBwUAWge4 backup]).		:*'''See hatchet job by NBC:''' [https://fstube.net/w/rSYdz9cLpvMSAi3FGdXKk4 Bailey Model Talks to NBC about Webe Web] ([https://www.veoh.com/watch/v15612826nAkn8n9t backup]).
	~~:*'''See hatchet job by NBC'''~~ [https://fstube.net/w/~~rSYdz9cLpvMSAi3FGdXKk4 Bailey Model Talks to NBC about Webe Web~~] ([https://www.~~veoh~~.com/watch~~/v15612826nAkn8n9t~~ backup]).		:*'''See for similar:''' [https://fstube.net/w/neaVK5ht1H4DV2Bm7GUPoT Masha Babko breaks silence] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlEBwUAWge4 backup]). The full interview can be found [https://fstube.net/w/booaavhfw2Jwh8CVTmSTWc here] ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KOJ3KiJpwE backup]).

	*'''Inciardi, J. (1984). "[https://www.newgon.net/prd/lib/Inciardi1984.html Little girls and sex: A glimpse at the world of the “baby pro”]" ''Deviant Behaviour'', Volume 5, 1984 - Issue 1-4'''		*'''Inciardi, J. (1984). "[https://www.newgon.net/prd/lib/Inciardi1984.html Little girls and sex: A glimpse at the world of the “baby pro”]" ''Deviant Behaviour'', Volume 5, 1984 - Issue 1-4'''

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	*'''Ray H. Bixler (1982). [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224498209551152 Sibling incest in the royal families of Egypt, Peru, and Hawaii,] ''Journal of Sex Research'', 18:3, 264-281.'''		*'''Ray H. Bixler (1982). [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224498209551152 Sibling incest in the royal families of Egypt, Peru, and Hawaii,] ''Journal of Sex Research'', 18:3, 264-281.'''
	*:'''Abstract ~~excerpt~~:''' “Analysts of the incest taboo who believe that cultural determinants alone are a sufficient explanation of human incest avoidance frequently cite alleged sibling marriages in the royal families of Egypt, Hawaii, and Peru as supporting evidence. If full‐sibling incest were common in intact families in several populous societies (where mates other than siblings were available) incest avoidance theories involving genetic components, and natural selection theory itself, would be seriously ~~challenged”~~.		*:'''Abstract:''' “Analysts of the incest taboo who believe that cultural determinants alone are a sufficient explanation of human incest avoidance frequently cite alleged sibling marriages in the royal families of Egypt, Hawaii, and Peru as supporting evidence. If full‐sibling incest were common in intact families in several populous societies (where mates other than siblings were available) incest avoidance theories involving genetic components, and natural selection theory itself, would be seriously challenged [...]”.

	*'''v.d. Berghe, P., (2010). "[https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/human-inbreeding-avoidance-culture-in-nature/07B3966FFD48AB974FCA0933BFD71491 Human inbreeding avoidance: Culture in nature]" ''Behavioral and Brain Sciences'', Volume 6 Issue 1.'''		*'''v.d. Berghe, P., (2010). "[https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/human-inbreeding-avoidance-culture-in-nature/07B3966FFD48AB974FCA0933BFD71491 Human inbreeding avoidance: Culture in nature]" ''Behavioral and Brain Sciences'', Volume 6 Issue 1.'''

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	*'''Ray H. Bixler (1983). [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224498309551180 The multiple meanings of “incest”], ''Journal of Sex Research'', 19:2, 197-201.'''		*'''Ray H. Bixler (1983). [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224498309551180 The multiple meanings of “incest”], ''Journal of Sex Research'', 19:2, 197-201.'''
	*:Editor: Bixler advocates the importance of distinctions within research, something which remains an issue in 2021, in part because of a taboo around recognizing that those involved in incest can be “willing participants” as Bixler puts it. If researchers risk opprobrium for acknowledging their existence, why would they risk studying “willing participants”, “positive experiences”, or making distinctions?		*:'''Abstract:''' "A host of different sexual activities between partners varying widely in age and degree of consanguinity are usually classified as "incest" and often analyzed in toto. Efforts to encourage investigators to draw distinctions between the various kinds of "incest" have not been very successful, in spite of the availability of both research and theory which suggest the need for a definitional reform. Several important theoretical and empirical issues can be clarified if analysts will specify, for incest partners, the ages, degree of consanguinity, the specific types of sexual acts in which they have engaged, the willingness of each participant, and how long and at what age they lived in the same nuclear family unit."
	*:Abstract: "A host of different sexual activities between partners varying widely in age and degree of consanguinity are usually classified as "incest" and often analyzed in toto. Efforts to encourage investigators to draw distinctions between the various kinds of "incest" have not been very successful, in spite of the availability of both research and theory which suggest the need for a definitional reform. Several important theoretical and empirical issues can be clarified if analysts will specify, for incest partners, the ages, degree of consanguinity, the specific types of sexual acts in which they have engaged, the willingness of each participant, and how long and at what age they lived in the same nuclear family unit."		*:'''Note:''' Bixler advocates the importance of distinctions within research, something which remains an issue in 2021, in part because of a taboo around recognizing that those involved in incest can be “willing participants” as Bixler puts it. If researchers risk opprobrium for acknowledging their existence, why would they risk studying “willing participants”, “positive experiences”, or making distinctions?

	*'''Alayne Yates, (1982). [https://doi.org/10.1176/ajp.139.4.482 Children Eroticized by Incest], ''American Journal of Psychiatry'', 139:4, pp. 482-485.'''		*'''Alayne Yates, (1982). [https://doi.org/10.1176/ajp.139.4.482 Children Eroticized by Incest], ''American Journal of Psychiatry'', 139:4, pp. 482-485.'''
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	*'''Ray H. Bixler (1982). [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224498209551152 Sibling incest in the royal families of Egypt, Peru, and Hawaii,] ''Journal of Sex Research'', 18:3, 264-281.'''		*'''Ray H. Bixler (1982). [https://doi.org/10.1080/00224498209551152 Sibling incest in the royal families of Egypt, Peru, and Hawaii,] ''Journal of Sex Research'', 18:3, 264-281.'''
	*:Abstract excerpt: “Analysts of the incest taboo who believe that cultural determinants alone are a sufficient explanation of human incest avoidance frequently cite alleged sibling marriages in the royal families of Egypt, Hawaii, and Peru as supporting evidence. If full‐sibling incest were common in intact families in several populous societies (where mates other than siblings were available) incest avoidance theories involving genetic components, and natural selection theory itself, would be seriously challenged”.		*:'''Abstract excerpt:''' “Analysts of the incest taboo who believe that cultural determinants alone are a sufficient explanation of human incest avoidance frequently cite alleged sibling marriages in the royal families of Egypt, Hawaii, and Peru as supporting evidence. If full‐sibling incest were common in intact families in several populous societies (where mates other than siblings were available) incest avoidance theories involving genetic components, and natural selection theory itself, would be seriously challenged”.

	*'''v.d. Berghe, P., (2010). "[https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/human-inbreeding-avoidance-culture-in-nature/07B3966FFD48AB974FCA0933BFD71491 Human inbreeding avoidance: Culture in nature]" ''Behavioral and Brain Sciences'', Volume 6 Issue 1.'''		*'''v.d. Berghe, P., (2010). "[https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/behavioral-and-brain-sciences/article/abs/human-inbreeding-avoidance-culture-in-nature/07B3966FFD48AB974FCA0933BFD71491 Human inbreeding avoidance: Culture in nature]" ''Behavioral and Brain Sciences'', Volume 6 Issue 1.'''
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	*'''Ryan Thorneycroft (2021). [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-021-09856-3 Cripping Incest Discourse(s)], ''Sexuality & Culture'', 25, pp. 1910–1926.'''		*'''Ryan Thorneycroft (2021). [https://doi.org/10.1007/s12119-021-09856-3 Cripping Incest Discourse(s)], ''Sexuality & Culture'', 25, pp. 1910–1926.'''
	*:Abstract: "In this article, I chart the ableist presuppositions associated with the incest taboo. Specifically, I interrogate two ways in which incest is deployed as a particular form of knowledge (and consequently prohibited because of such knowledges): first, the knowledge that incest creates inbreeding and attendant ‘abnormalities’; and second, that incest is a threat to the sanctity of the family. I challenge both these assertions on the basis that they are grounded in ableist (and heteronormative) ways of thinking. While I dwell on the theoretical aspects of this analysis, in the second half of the article I move to explore the ethico-political dimensions that arise from such theorisations. Drawing on the intersections of crip/queer theory, I wonder whether we should ‘fuck the future’, or whether we should imagine a queer/crip future that is not yet here. Such choices, I hope, will help us inform our understandings and approaches towards incestuous practices."		*:'''Abstract:''' "In this article, I chart the ableist presuppositions associated with the incest taboo. Specifically, I interrogate two ways in which incest is deployed as a particular form of knowledge (and consequently prohibited because of such knowledges): first, the knowledge that incest creates inbreeding and attendant ‘abnormalities’; and second, that incest is a threat to the sanctity of the family. I challenge both these assertions on the basis that they are grounded in ableist (and heteronormative) ways of thinking. While I dwell on the theoretical aspects of this analysis, in the second half of the article I move to explore the ethico-political dimensions that arise from such theorisations. Drawing on the intersections of crip/queer theory, I wonder whether we should ‘fuck the future’, or whether we should imagine a queer/crip future that is not yet here. Such choices, I hope, will help us inform our understandings and approaches towards incestuous practices."

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	A variety of double-taboo/multiple-victimization formulations (including commercial exploitation, incest, etc) have been recorded within the CSA victimization category, yet there is seemingly no greater burden of trauma (when present) attached to the double-taboo/multiple-victimization. See, for example, the absence of a "biological gradient" in [[Research: Association or Causation\|Association or Causation]], where greater exposure to experimenter-defined "CSA" was noted without any greater harm.		A variety of double-taboo/multiple-victimization formulations (including commercial exploitation, incest, etc) have been recorded within the CSA victimization category, yet there is seemingly no greater burden of trauma (when present) attached to the double-taboo/multiple-victimization. See, for example, the absence of a "biological gradient" in [[Research: Association or Causation\|Association or Causation]], where greater exposure to experimenter-defined "CSA" was noted without any greater harm.

	This "net uniformity of outcome" is a classic red-flag for confounding social variables, suggesting that neither "CSA", nor the supposedly more severe forms of "CSA" such as sex-work/participation in [[Child Pornography\|pornography]] are fundamentally traumatic experiences per se. Similar reactions were observed in children who were chastised for, or prohibited from [[masturbation\|masturbating]] many decades ago, when said behavior was pathologized as "onanism". Many modern psychiatrists, if allowed to assess such children, would likely ascribe labels such as "classic trauma response" to their symptoms, which are in fact a result of social shame instilled in them by way of socialization and punishment. As we have established elsewhere in this guide, a similar mechanism is in likely effect with a (statistically insignificant) minority of voluntary "CSA".		This "net uniformity of outcome" is a classic red-flag for confounding social variables, suggesting that neither "CSA", nor the supposedly more severe forms of "CSA" such as sex-work/participation in [[Child Pornography\|pornography]] are fundamentally traumatic experiences per se. Similar reactions were observed in children who were chastised for, or prohibited from [[masturbation\|masturbating]] many decades ago, when said behavior was pathologized as "onanism". Many modern psychiatrists, if allowed to assess such children, would likely ascribe labels such as "classic trauma response" to their symptoms, which are in fact a result of social shame instilled in them by way of socialization and punishment. As we have established elsewhere in this guide, a similar mechanism is in likely effect with a ([[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes\|statistically insignificant]]) minority of voluntary "CSA".

	Similarly, when different types of "sexual victimization" are compared in a controlled manner, outcomes appear to be almost identical. According to one research team, for example, ''"there is no evidence in this study to suggest that young people who are abused via the Internet suffer less harm than those who are abused offlline ''[...]'' notably, within this sample, whether abuse occurred online-only or both on- and offline did not correlate with the extent of the impact on the victim."''<ref>Whittle, H., Hamilton-Giachritsis, C., & Beech, A. (2013). Victim’s voices: [https://research.birmingham.ac.uk/en/publications/victims-voices-the-impact-of-online-grooming-and-abuse The impact of online grooming and abuse.] Universal Journal of Psychology, 1, 59-71.</ref> [[David Finkelhor\|Finkelhor]] has observed that minors' experiences of the production of erotic material with an adult present, were ''"not higher in negative emotional impact than the ''[nowadays more common]'' youth produced images"''.<ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423002508 Finkelhor (2023). Child sexual abuse images and youth produced images: The varieties of Image-based Sexual Exploitation and Abuse of Children]</ref>		Similarly, when different types of "sexual victimization" are compared in a controlled manner, outcomes appear to be almost identical. According to one research team, for example, ''"there is no evidence in this study to suggest that young people who are abused via the Internet suffer less harm than those who are abused offlline ''[...]'' notably, within this sample, whether abuse occurred online-only or both on- and offline did not correlate with the extent of the impact on the victim."''<ref>Whittle, H., Hamilton-Giachritsis, C., & Beech, A. (2013). Victim’s voices: [https://research.birmingham.ac.uk/en/publications/victims-voices-the-impact-of-online-grooming-and-abuse The impact of online grooming and abuse.] Universal Journal of Psychology, 1, 59-71.</ref> [[David Finkelhor\|Finkelhor]] has observed that minors' experiences of the production of erotic material with an adult present, were ''"not higher in negative emotional impact than the ''[nowadays more common]'' youth produced images"''.<ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423002508 Finkelhor (2023). Child sexual abuse images and youth produced images: The varieties of Image-based Sexual Exploitation and Abuse of Children]</ref>

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	Similarly, when different types of "sexual victimization" are compared in a controlled manner, outcomes appear to be almost identical. According to one research team, for example, ''"there is no evidence in this study to suggest that young people who are abused via the Internet suffer less harm than those who are abused offlline ''[...]'' notably, within this sample, whether abuse occurred online-only or both on- and offline did not correlate with the extent of the impact on the victim."''<ref>Whittle, H., Hamilton-Giachritsis, C., & Beech, A. (2013). Victim’s voices: [https://research.birmingham.ac.uk/en/publications/victims-voices-the-impact-of-online-grooming-and-abuse The impact of online grooming and abuse.] Universal Journal of Psychology, 1, 59-71.</ref> [[David Finkelhor\|Finkelhor]] has observed that minors' experiences of the production of erotic material with an adult present, were ''"not higher in negative emotional impact than the ''[nowadays more common]'' youth produced images"''.<ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423002508 Finkelhor (2023). Child sexual abuse images and youth produced images: The varieties of Image-based Sexual Exploitation and Abuse of Children]</ref>		Similarly, when different types of "sexual victimization" are compared in a controlled manner, outcomes appear to be almost identical. According to one research team, for example, ''"there is no evidence in this study to suggest that young people who are abused via the Internet suffer less harm than those who are abused offlline ''[...]'' notably, within this sample, whether abuse occurred online-only or both on- and offline did not correlate with the extent of the impact on the victim."''<ref>Whittle, H., Hamilton-Giachritsis, C., & Beech, A. (2013). Victim’s voices: [https://research.birmingham.ac.uk/en/publications/victims-voices-the-impact-of-online-grooming-and-abuse The impact of online grooming and abuse.] Universal Journal of Psychology, 1, 59-71.</ref> [[David Finkelhor\|Finkelhor]] has observed that minors' experiences of the production of erotic material with an adult present, were ''"not higher in negative emotional impact than the ''[nowadays more common]'' youth produced images"''.<ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423002508 Finkelhor (2023). Child sexual abuse images and youth produced images: The varieties of Image-based Sexual Exploitation and Abuse of Children]</ref>

	This stands in stark contrast to other forms of victimization (physical, emotional, neglect), which are widely known to bring about, or exacerbate statistically significant negative outcomes when combined with one another. Notably, the inclusion of sex in a pairing does not tend to worsen the outcomes. See, for example, [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes\|"Poly-Victimization"]] studies by [[David Finkelhor]] and others.		This stands in stark contrast to other forms of victimization (physical, emotional, neglect), which are widely known to bring about, or exacerbate statistically significant negative outcomes when combined with one another. Notably, the inclusion of sex in a pairing does not tend to worsen the outcomes. See, for example, [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes#Poly_Victimizations_and_Comorbidities\|"Poly-Victimization"]] studies by [[David Finkelhor]] and others.

	==Incest (family sex)==		==Incest (family sex)==

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	A variety of double-taboo/multiple-victimization formulations (including commercial exploitation, incest, etc) have been recorded within the CSA victimization category, yet there is seemingly no greater burden of trauma (when present) attached to the double-taboo/multiple-victimization. See, for example, the absence of a "biological gradient" in [[Research: Association or Causation\|Association or Causation]], where greater exposure to experimenter-defined "CSA" was noted without any greater harm.		A variety of double-taboo/multiple-victimization formulations (including commercial exploitation, incest, etc) have been recorded within the CSA victimization category, yet there is seemingly no greater burden of trauma (when present) attached to the double-taboo/multiple-victimization. See, for example, the absence of a "biological gradient" in [[Research: Association or Causation\|Association or Causation]], where greater exposure to experimenter-defined "CSA" was noted without any greater harm.

	This "net uniformity of outcome" is a classic red-flag for confounding social variables, suggesting that neither "CSA", nor the supposedly more severe forms of "CSA" such as sex-work/participation in [[Child Pornography\|pornography]] are fundamentally traumatic experiences per se. Similar reactions were observed in children who were chastised for, or prohibited from [[masturbation\|masturbating]] many decades ago, when said behavior was pathologized as "onanism". Many modern psychiatrists, if allowed to assess such children, would likely ascribe labels such as "classic trauma response" to their symptoms, which are in fact a result of social shame instilled in them by way of socialization and punishment. As we have established elsewhere in this guide, a similar mechanism is in likely effect with a (statistically insignificant) minority of voluntary "CSA".		This "net uniformity of outcome" is a classic red-flag for confounding social variables, suggesting that neither "CSA", nor the supposedly more severe forms of "CSA" such as sex-work/participation in [[Child Pornography\|pornography]] are fundamentally traumatic experiences per se. Similar reactions were observed in children who were chastised for, or prohibited from [[masturbation\|masturbating]] many decades ago, when said behavior was pathologized as "onanism". Many modern psychiatrists, if allowed to assess such children, would likely ascribe labels such as "classic trauma response" to their symptoms, which are in fact a result of social shame instilled in them by way of socialization and punishment. As we have established elsewhere in this guide, a similar mechanism is in likely effect with a ([[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes\|statistically insignificant]]) minority of voluntary "CSA".

	Similarly, when different types of "sexual victimization" are compared in a controlled manner, outcomes appear to be almost identical. According to one research team, for example, ''"there is no evidence in this study to suggest that young people who are abused via the Internet suffer less harm than those who are abused offlline ''[...]'' notably, within this sample, whether abuse occurred online-only or both on- and offline did not correlate with the extent of the impact on the victim."''<ref>Whittle, H., Hamilton-Giachritsis, C., & Beech, A. (2013). Victim’s voices: [https://research.birmingham.ac.uk/en/publications/victims-voices-the-impact-of-online-grooming-and-abuse The impact of online grooming and abuse.] Universal Journal of Psychology, 1, 59-71.</ref> [[David Finkelhor\|Finkelhor]] has observed that minors' experiences of the production of erotic material with an adult present, were ''"not higher in negative emotional impact than the ''[nowadays more common]'' youth produced images"''.<ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423002508 Finkelhor (2023). Child sexual abuse images and youth produced images: The varieties of Image-based Sexual Exploitation and Abuse of Children]</ref>		Similarly, when different types of "sexual victimization" are compared in a controlled manner, outcomes appear to be almost identical. According to one research team, for example, ''"there is no evidence in this study to suggest that young people who are abused via the Internet suffer less harm than those who are abused offlline ''[...]'' notably, within this sample, whether abuse occurred online-only or both on- and offline did not correlate with the extent of the impact on the victim."''<ref>Whittle, H., Hamilton-Giachritsis, C., & Beech, A. (2013). Victim’s voices: [https://research.birmingham.ac.uk/en/publications/victims-voices-the-impact-of-online-grooming-and-abuse The impact of online grooming and abuse.] Universal Journal of Psychology, 1, 59-71.</ref> [[David Finkelhor\|Finkelhor]] has observed that minors' experiences of the production of erotic material with an adult present, were ''"not higher in negative emotional impact than the ''[nowadays more common]'' youth produced images"''.<ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0145213423002508 Finkelhor (2023). Child sexual abuse images and youth produced images: The varieties of Image-based Sexual Exploitation and Abuse of Children]</ref>