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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It had strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It had strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally. Males generally quitted playing the passive role when their beards appeared.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It ~~has~~ strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It had strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021" /> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

	==10th to 20th Century China==		==10th to 20th Century China==

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has ~~string~~ institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021" /> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021" /> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has string institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref>Jan N. Bremmer (2021) ~~'''~~[https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.]~~'''~~ (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has string institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021" /> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

	==10th to 20th Century China==		==10th to 20th Century China==

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

			It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has string institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref>Jan N. Bremmer (2021) '''[https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.]''' (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	''"Rocke concludes that up to two-thirds of all sexually active males in Florence were at least rumored to be involved in sodomitical activity. ''[...]'' Sodomy was so much the norm in Renaissance Florence that Rocke finds no “subculture” ''[...]'' the norm should be characterized as bisexual activity, a two or three on Kinsey scale. By the age of sixteen, a typical male was taking the passive role in sodomy with an older partner ''[...]'' Citizens accepted passivity as a normal part of adolescence to such an extent that eventually it was not even prosecuted. ''[...]'' The oldest active partners recorded were in their seventies. The youngest passives were eight years old. ''[...]'' By age thirty most men gave up their passion for youths and married women. ''[...]'' Overall, Rocke’s finds are surprisingly similar to the ancient Greeks ''[...]'' These male relationships were often mutual and romantic."''		''"Rocke concludes that up to two-thirds of all sexually active males in Florence were at least rumored to be involved in sodomitical activity. ''[...]'' Sodomy was so much the norm in Renaissance Florence that Rocke finds no “subculture” ''[...]'' the norm should be characterized as bisexual activity, a two or three on Kinsey scale. By the age of sixteen, a typical male was taking the passive role in sodomy with an older partner ''[...]'' Citizens accepted passivity as a normal part of adolescence to such an extent that eventually it was not even prosecuted. ''[...]'' The oldest active partners recorded were in their seventies. The youngest passives were eight years old. ''[...]'' By age thirty most men gave up their passion for youths and married women. ''[...]'' Overall, Rocke’s finds are surprisingly similar to the ancient Greeks ''[...]'' These male relationships were often mutual and romantic."''<ref>See Michael Rocke, [https://annas-archive.org/md5/ac0dab2ba53be8a3a5b6d8967749d7b7 ''Forbidden Friendships: Homosexuality and Male Culture in Renaissance Florence''] (Oxford University Press, 1998).</ref>
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Ancient Greece

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	Historians including Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], Beert C. Verstraete,<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

	==10th to 20th Century China==		==10th to 20th Century China==

Thorn: /* General */

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	:''"As mentioned earlier, our Western civilization has not always believed that children should be protected from all sexual contact. In medieval Europe, children were still freely touched, caressed, and fondled by every member of the household. Particularly in rural areas, parents, nurses, or servants were accustomed to masturbating small children to please them or to keep them quiet. (This practice is also found in many non-European societies. In the United States today, it is still alive among the Hopi Indians.)"''<ref>[[Erwin Haeberle\|Haeberle, Erwin J.]] (1983). ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20120419005050/http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/ATLAS_EN/html/childhood_sex_play.html The Sex Atlas]''. The Continuum Publishing Company.</ref>		:''"As mentioned earlier, our Western civilization has not always believed that children should be protected from all sexual contact. In medieval Europe, children were still freely touched, caressed, and fondled by every member of the household. Particularly in rural areas, parents, nurses, or servants were accustomed to masturbating small children to please them or to keep them quiet. (This practice is also found in many non-European societies. In the United States today, it is still alive among the Hopi Indians.)"''<ref>[[Erwin Haeberle\|Haeberle, Erwin J.]] (1983). ''[https://web.archive.org/web/20120419005050/http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/ATLAS_EN/html/childhood_sex_play.html The Sex Atlas]''. The Continuum Publishing Company.</ref>

	''Encyclopedia of Male Homosexual Poetry and its Reception History'' by [[Paul Knobel]]<ref>[http://www.sexarchive.info/BIB/hombib/ Encyclopedia of Male Homosexual Poetry and its Reception History] by [[Paul Knobel]] - free access encyclopedia at the Sexarchive by [[Erwin Haeberle]]; also see the work with Overview entries from this encyclopedia - [http://www.sexarchive.info/BIB/knobelworld.htm A World Overview of Male Homosexual Poetry ] </ref> contains hundreds of mentions of dancing and singing boys tradition, along with sexual and romantic themes in poetry dedicated to them, in different cultures in history.		''Encyclopedia of Male Homosexual Poetry and its Reception History'' by [[Paul Knobel]]<ref>[http://www.sexarchive.info/BIB/hombib/ Encyclopedia of Male Homosexual Poetry and its Reception History] by [[Paul Knobel]] - free access encyclopedia at the Sexarchive by [[Erwin Haeberle]]; also see the work with Overview entries from this encyclopedia - [http://www.sexarchive.info/BIB/knobelworld.htm A World Overview of Male Homosexual Poetry] </ref> contains hundreds of mentions of dancing and singing boys tradition, along with sexual and romantic themes in poetry dedicated to them, in different cultures in history.

	==Excerpt Graphic Library==		==Excerpt Graphic Library==

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It had strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It had strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally. Males generally quitted playing the passive role when their beards appeared.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It ~~has~~ strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It had strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality, as both initiators and novices normally marry afterwards. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

	It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has ~~string~~ institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has strong institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref name="bremmer2021"> Jan N. Bremmer (2021) [https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.] (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021" /> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021" /> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>		Many Greek men waited until they were about 30 years of age to marry. When they did marry, their partner would often be a girl of 12 or 14.<ref name="bullough">[[Vern Bullough\|Bullough, Vern L.]] (2004). "Children and adolescents as sexual beings: a historical overview," ''Child and Adolescent Psychiatric Clinics of North America'', 13(3), 447-459.</ref>

			It is certain that pederasty was already widespread in Greek culture in the early Archaic Age. It has string institutional character in Crete and Sparta and educational connotations in Athens, and seemingly was derived from earlier initiatory practices in history. It was definitively intergenerational practice which shouldn't be confused with modern adult-adult homosexuality. The active pederasts were the novices of the previous initiation, and copulation, in which the novice was always the passive partner, took place anally.<ref>Jan N. Bremmer (2021) '''[https://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Man-Ancient-Greece-Rome/dp/3161590082 Becoming a Man in Ancient Greece and Rome. Essays on Myths and Rituals of Initiation.]''' (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	Historians including Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.