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	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref><ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. ''Arethusa'', 13(2), 279–298.</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref><ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. ''Arethusa'', 13(2), 279–298.</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

	Also in ancient Sparta it was customary for adult noble women to have intercourse with beloved girls before their marriage. It may be considered proven that male paederasty in Sparta had a Lesbian counterpart in female initiation. In the case of Sappho [Lesbos, 700 – 600 BCE] the same ritual background is visible with some evidence of erotic relationships between women and girls. Their relationships also expected to be nonexclusive, i.e. adult women had husbands and girls married men as they grew older. ~~<ref name= "bremmer1980"/>~~<ref> André Lardinois (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-3/lesbian-sappho-sappho-lesbos-andr%C3%A9-lardinois Lesbian Sappho and Sappho of Lesbos ]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>		Also in ancient Sparta it was customary for adult noble women to have intercourse with beloved girls before their marriage. It may be considered proven that male paederasty in Sparta had a Lesbian counterpart in female initiation.<ref name= "bremmer1980"/> In the case of Sappho [Lesbos, 700 – 600 BCE] the same ritual background is visible with some evidence of erotic relationships between women and girls. Their relationships also expected to be nonexclusive, i.e. adult women had husbands and girls married men as they grew older.<ref> André Lardinois (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-3/lesbian-sappho-sappho-lesbos-andr%C3%A9-lardinois Lesbian Sappho and Sappho of Lesbos ]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	=== Goths ===		=== Goths ===

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	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref><ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. ''Arethusa'', 13(2), 279–298.</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref><ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. ''Arethusa'', 13(2), 279–298.</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

			Also in ancient Sparta it was customary for adult noble women to have intercourse with beloved girls before their marriage. It may be considered proven that male paederasty in Sparta had a Lesbian counterpart in female initiation. In the case of Sappho [Lesbos, 700 – 600 BCE] the same ritual background is visible with some evidence of erotic relationships between women and girls. Their relationships also expected to be nonexclusive, i.e. adult women had husbands and girls married men as they grew older. <ref name= "bremmer1980"/><ref> André Lardinois (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-3/lesbian-sappho-sappho-lesbos-andr%C3%A9-lardinois Lesbian Sappho and Sappho of Lesbos ]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref>

	=== Goths ===		=== Goths ===

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	<blockquote>Regarding the Celts, there is general agreement in our sources that they practiced paederasty. Athenaeus [II–III CE] even tells us that they often slept with two boys at the same time, but this looks as if it is a typical Greek dream-wish. This is the only detailed report we have that goes beyond the pure mention of the practice [...]<ref name= "bremmer1980"/></blockquote>		<blockquote>Regarding the Celts, there is general agreement in our sources that they practiced paederasty. Athenaeus [II–III CE] even tells us that they often slept with two boys at the same time, but this looks as if it is a typical Greek dream-wish. This is the only detailed report we have that goes beyond the pure mention of the practice [...]<ref name= "bremmer1980"/></blockquote>

			=== Persians ===
			See in detail in [[Pederasty_in_Islam#Persia\|Pederasty in Islam]]
			<blockquote>It seems reasonable then to accept the occurrence of paederasty among the Persians - although it was forbidden - but our sources do not connect the practice with initiation or men's societies<ref name= "bremmer1980"/></blockquote>

	==10th to 20th Century China==		==10th to 20th Century China==

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	Valerius Maximus presents a number of stories, the earliest going back to the fourth century [BCE], demonstrating that the practice was known to the Romans too, albeit disapproved of till the end of the Republic. By that time, paederastic friendships were frequently adopted in higher circles and even the moralistic Augustus had had his friend in his younger years. About the Empire we need not go into detail. Any reader of Juvenal, Martial and Petronius can find examples galore. [...] It is important to observe that the Romans explicitly forbid paederasty with free boys but not with slavess in the so-called lex Scantinia, a law dating probably from before Cicero's time [1st century BCE].<ref name= "bremmer1980"/>		Valerius Maximus presents a number of stories, the earliest going back to the fourth century [BCE], demonstrating that the practice was known to the Romans too, albeit disapproved of till the end of the Republic. By that time, paederastic friendships were frequently adopted in higher circles and even the moralistic Augustus had had his friend in his younger years. About the Empire we need not go into detail. Any reader of Juvenal, Martial and Petronius can find examples galore. [...] It is important to observe that the Romans explicitly forbid paederasty with free boys but not with slavess in the so-called lex Scantinia, a law dating probably from before Cicero's time [1st century BCE].<ref name= "bremmer1980"/>
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			=== Celts ===
			<blockquote>Regarding the Celts, there is general agreement in our sources that they practiced paederasty. Athenaeus [II–III CE] even tells us that they often slept with two boys at the same time, but this looks as if it is a typical Greek dream-wish. This is the only detailed report we have that goes beyond the pure mention of the practice [...]<ref name= "bremmer1980"/></blockquote>

	==10th to 20th Century China==		==10th to 20th Century China==

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	In the late Archaic period the male intergenerational institution was no longer dominated by mature adult men initiating adolescents into the adult male world. Younger men increasingly replaced older, adolescents were replaced by younger boys. At the same time, their courtship was represented less directly and more cautiously.<ref name="bremmer2021"/>		In the late Archaic period the male intergenerational institution was no longer dominated by mature adult men initiating adolescents into the adult male world. Younger men increasingly replaced older, adolescents were replaced by younger boys. At the same time, their courtship was represented less directly and more cautiously.<ref name="bremmer2021"/>

	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref><ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. ''Arethusa'', 13(2), 279–298.</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

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	Valerius Maximus presents a number of stories, the earliest going back to the fourth century [BCE], demonstrating that the practice was known to the Romans too, albeit disapproved of till the end of the Republic. By that time, paederastic friendships were frequently adopted in higher circles and even the moralistic Augustus had had his friend in his younger years. About the Empire we need not go into detail. Any reader of Juvenal, Martial and Petronius can find examples galore. [...] It is important to observe that the Romans explicitly forbid paederasty with free boys but not with slavess in the so-called lex Scantinia, a law dating probably from before Cicero's time [1st century BCE].<ref name= "bremmer1980"~~>Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. Arethusa, 13(2), 279–298.<~~/~~ref~~>		Valerius Maximus presents a number of stories, the earliest going back to the fourth century [BCE], demonstrating that the practice was known to the Romans too, albeit disapproved of till the end of the Republic. By that time, paederastic friendships were frequently adopted in higher circles and even the moralistic Augustus had had his friend in his younger years. About the Empire we need not go into detail. Any reader of Juvenal, Martial and Petronius can find examples galore. [...] It is important to observe that the Romans explicitly forbid paederasty with free boys but not with slavess in the so-called lex Scantinia, a law dating probably from before Cicero's time [1st century BCE].<ref name= "bremmer1980"/>
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	Valerius Maximus presents a number of stories, the earliest going back to the fourth century [BC], demonstrating that the practice was known to the Romans too, albeit disapproved of till the end of the Republic. By that time, paederastic friendships were frequently adopted in higher circles and even the moralistic Augustus had had his friend in his younger years. About the Empire we need not go into detail. Any reader of Juvenal, Martial and Petronius can find examples galore. [...] It is important to observe that the Romans explicitly forbid paederasty with free boys but not with slavess in the so-called lex Scantinia, a law dating probably from before Cicero's time.<ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. Arethusa, 13(2), 279–298.</ref>		Valerius Maximus presents a number of stories, the earliest going back to the fourth century [BCE], demonstrating that the practice was known to the Romans too, albeit disapproved of till the end of the Republic. By that time, paederastic friendships were frequently adopted in higher circles and even the moralistic Augustus had had his friend in his younger years. About the Empire we need not go into detail. Any reader of Juvenal, Martial and Petronius can find examples galore. [...] It is important to observe that the Romans explicitly forbid paederasty with free boys but not with slavess in the so-called lex Scantinia, a law dating probably from before Cicero's time [1st century BCE].<ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. Arethusa, 13(2), 279–298.</ref>
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Goths

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	The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear.<ref name="bremmer2021"/>		The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear.<ref name="bremmer2021"/>
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			=== Romans ===
			<blockquote>
			Valerius Maximus presents a number of stories, the earliest going back to the fourth century [BC], demonstrating that the practice was known to the Romans too, albeit disapproved of till the end of the Republic. By that time, paederastic friendships were frequently adopted in higher circles and even the moralistic Augustus had had his friend in his younger years. About the Empire we need not go into detail. Any reader of Juvenal, Martial and Petronius can find examples galore. [...] It is important to observe that the Romans explicitly forbid paederasty with free boys but not with slavess in the so-called lex Scantinia, a law dating probably from before Cicero's time.<ref name= "bremmer1980">Bremmer, J. (1980). An enigmatic Indo-European rite: Paederasty. Arethusa, 13(2), 279–298.</ref>
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	The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear."<ref name="bremmer2021"/>		The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear.<ref name="bremmer2021"/>
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	~~::"~~The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear."<ref name="bremmer2021"/>		<blockquote>
			The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear."<ref name="bremmer2021"/>
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	Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.		Historians including [[Jan Bremmer\|Jan N. Bremmer]],<ref name="bremmer2021"/><ref>Jan N. Bremmer (1989) [https://www.taylorfrancis.com/chapters/edit/10.4324/9781315770055-2/greek-pederasty-modern-homosexuality-jan-bremmer Greek Pederasty and Modern Homosexuality]. in: Jan N. Bremmer (ed.) (1989) From Sappho to De Sade: Moments in the History of Sexuality. (available via [[Help:Research_Resources#Information_Freedom_Companions\|OPTION 2]])</ref> Christian Laes,<ref>[https://www.christianlaes.be/ Christian Laes - Personal site]</ref><ref>[https://journals.univie.ac.at/index.php/oezg/article/view/3327 Laes, C. (2017). When Classicists Need to Speak Up: Antiquity and Present Day Pedophilia – Pederasty. ''Österreichische Zeitschrift für Geschichtswissenschaften'', 28(3), 49–70].</ref><ref>Christian Laes, ''Children in the Roman Empire: Outsiders Within'' (Cambridge University Press, 2011).</ref><ref>; Christian Laes and Johan Strubbe, ''Youth in the Roman Empire: The Young and the Restless Years?'' (Cambridge University Press, 2014)</ref><ref>Christian Laes, 'Children and Sexuality: Roman World', in: Julia M. O'Brian (ed.), ''Oxford Encyclopedia of the Bible and Gender Studies'' (Oxford University Press, 2014), 38–42.</ref> [[wikipedia:Andrew Lear\|Andrew Lear]],<ref>[https://library.lol/main/53872FCED674EC41DFC6B26B198D1F7F Eva Cantarella and Andrew Lear, ''Images of Pederasty: Boys Were Their God'' (Routledge, 2008)].</ref><ref>Andrew Lear, 'Was Pederasty Problematized? A Diachronic View', in: Mark Masterson/Nancy Sorkin Rabinowitz/James Robson (eds.), ''Sex in Antiquity: Exploring Gender and Sexuality in the Ancient World'' (London/New York, 2015), pp. 115–136.</ref><ref>[https://library.lol/main/35E193AC1C1DADA75905ADD4DE8E0098 Andrew Lear, ''Noble Eros: the idealization of pederasty from the Greek dark ages to the Athens of Socrates'' (2004, PhD Thesis)].</ref> [[Thomas Hubbard]], [[Beert Verstraete\|Beert C. Verstraete]],<ref>[https://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2009/2009.09.61/ Beert Verstraete, Review of 'The Greeks and Greek Love: A Radical Reappraisal of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece', ''Bryn Mawr Classical Review'', 3. Nov. 2009].</ref> and [[William Percy]], have conducted extensive research on Greek Pederasty and the life of children / young people in Greco-Roman society.

	== Goths ==		=== Goths ===
	::"The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear."<ref name="bremmer2021"/>		::"The historian Ammianus Marcellinus (31.9.5) [4th century CE] relates that among the Taifali, a tribe connected with the Goths, the boys lived in a state of pederasty until they had killed a boar or a bear."<ref name="bremmer2021"/>