Self-fulfilling prophecy - Revision history

https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy Self-fulfilling prophecy - Revision history 2026-04-21T20:15:23Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.45.3 https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=25864&oldid=prev The Admins at 18:21, 5 May 2024 2024-05-05T18:21:32Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:21, 5 May 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l2">Line 2:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 2:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[MAP Movement|MAP activism]]. [[Wikipedia:Labeling_theory|Labeling theory]] explains much of what we observe, as do comparisons such as the dangers of [[Wikipedia:Black market|black markets]]. We see these self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[MAP Movement|MAP activism]]. [[Wikipedia:Labeling_theory|Labeling theory]] explains much of what we observe, as do comparisons such as the dangers of [[Wikipedia:Black market|black markets]]. We see these self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[scarred for life|</ins>scarring<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]] </ins>(absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Boldness, stubbornness and sometimes insanity''' among some of the more visible/activist MAPs (the [[Jack McClellan]] effect). By definition, if a mental or behavioral habit is reviled so widely by society, only the bravest, and some would say most insane will ever consider making themselves known on a voluntary basis.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Boldness, stubbornness and sometimes insanity''' among some of the more visible/activist MAPs (the [[Jack McClellan]] effect). By definition, if a mental or behavioral habit is reviled so widely by society, only the bravest, and some would say most insane will ever consider making themselves known on a voluntary basis.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Low quality interactions, fetishization and poor self-control''' among the wider sample of people who engage in unlawful sex with a minor (regardless of [[MAP]] orientation). Again, if society despises and pathologizes the acts themselves, said acts are more likely to be committed by those who lack intelligence, self control or even fetishize the deviancy of their own acts. These individuals are ''far less likely'' to act with affection or respect for the other party. For example, well-publicised incidents involving recent migrants to Europe,<ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/03/11/migrant-who-sexually-abused-toddler-claims-actions-playful-in-his-culture/ Breitbart - Some playful, some forceful "culturally inappropriate" immigrant sex crimes]</ref> whose behavior would violate any definition of a western sexual assault law, regardless of legal age for sexual activity.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Low quality interactions, fetishization and poor self-control''' among the wider sample of people who engage in unlawful sex with a minor (regardless of [[MAP]] orientation). Again, if society despises and pathologizes the acts themselves, said acts are more likely to be committed by those who lack intelligence, self control or even fetishize the deviancy of their own acts. These individuals are ''far less likely'' to act with affection or respect for the other party. For example, well-publicised incidents involving recent migrants to Europe,<ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/03/11/migrant-who-sexually-abused-toddler-claims-actions-playful-in-his-culture/ Breitbart - Some playful, some forceful "culturally inappropriate" immigrant sex crimes]</ref> whose behavior would violate any definition of a western sexual assault law, regardless of legal age for sexual activity.</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The harm, [[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|Ehman suggests]], is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been scarred for life.''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The harm, [[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|Ehman suggests]], is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[</ins>scarred for life<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>.''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr> </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=25442&oldid=prev The Admins at 17:20, 14 April 2024 2024-04-14T17:20:56Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 17:20, 14 April 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>__NOTOC__[[File:Sfp.png|thumb|Example of a rebuttal to essentialist/anedcotal claims about the nature of teen-[[boylovers]]. The "concept" being self-restraint]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>__NOTOC__[[File:Sfp.png|thumb|Example of a rebuttal to essentialist/anedcotal claims about the nature of teen-[[boylovers]]. The "concept" being self-restraint]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[MAP Movement|MAP activism]]. [[Wikipedia:Labeling_theory|Labeling theory]] explains much of what we observe. We see these self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[MAP Movement|MAP activism]]. [[Wikipedia:Labeling_theory|Labeling theory]] explains much of what we observe<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, as do comparisons such as the dangers of [[Wikipedia:Black market|black markets]]</ins>. We see these self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td></tr> </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=18536&oldid=prev The Admins at 18:22, 12 March 2023 2023-03-12T18:22:19Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:22, 12 March 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l4">Line 4:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 4:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Boldness, stubbornness and sometimes insanity''' among some of the more visible/activist MAPs (the [[Jack McClellan]] effect). By definition, if a mental or behavioral habit is reviled so widely by society, only the bravest, and some would say most insane will ever consider making themselves known on a voluntary basis.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Boldness, stubbornness and sometimes insanity''' among some of the more visible/activist MAPs (the [[Jack McClellan]] effect). By definition, if a mental or behavioral habit is reviled so widely by society, only the bravest, and some would say most insane will ever consider making themselves known on a voluntary basis.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Low quality interactions, fetishization and poor self-control''' among the wider sample of people who engage in unlawful sex with a minor (regardless of [[MAP]] orientation). Again, if society despises and pathologizes the acts themselves, said acts are more likely to be committed by those who lack intelligence, self control or even fetishize the deviancy of their own acts. These individuals are ''far less likely'' to act with affection or respect for the other party. For example, well-publicised incidents involving recent migrants to Europe, whose behavior would violate any definition of a western sexual assault law, regardless of legal age for sexual activity.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Low quality interactions, fetishization and poor self-control''' among the wider sample of people who engage in unlawful sex with a minor (regardless of [[MAP]] orientation). Again, if society despises and pathologizes the acts themselves, said acts are more likely to be committed by those who lack intelligence, self control or even fetishize the deviancy of their own acts. These individuals are ''far less likely'' to act with affection or respect for the other party. For example, well-publicised incidents involving recent migrants to Europe,<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/03/11/migrant-who-sexually-abused-toddler-claims-actions-playful-in-his-culture/ Breitbart - Some playful, some forceful "culturally inappropriate" immigrant sex crimes]</ref> </ins>whose behavior would violate any definition of a western sexual assault law, regardless of legal age for sexual activity.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All of these phenomena were once highly visible among homosexual men, and in turn, used to justify their continued pathologization.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>All of these phenomena were once highly visible among homosexual men, and in turn, used to justify their continued pathologization.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=17391&oldid=prev The Admins at 21:39, 17 February 2023 2023-02-17T21:39:15Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:39, 17 February 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>__NOTOC__[[File:Sfp.png|thumb|Example of a rebuttal to essentialist/anedcotal claims about the nature of teen-[[boylovers]]. The "concept" being self-restraint]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>__NOTOC__[[File:Sfp.png|thumb|Example of a rebuttal to essentialist/anedcotal claims about the nature of teen-[[boylovers]]. The "concept" being self-restraint]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[MAP Movement|MAP activism]]. We see self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[MAP Movement|MAP activism]]<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. [[Wikipedia:Labeling_theory|Labeling theory]] explains much of what we observe</ins>. We see <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">these </ins>self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td></tr> </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=16902&oldid=prev The Admins at 21:27, 1 February 2023 2023-02-01T21:27:18Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:27, 1 February 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l26">Line 26:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 26:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-side-deleted"></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">*[[Wikipedia:Deviancy amplification spiral|Deviancy amplification spiral (Wikipedia)]]</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Debate Guide: All child molesters are pedophiles]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Debate Guide: All child molesters are pedophiles]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Research: Prevalence]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*[[Research: Prevalence]]</div></td></tr> </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=16421&oldid=prev The Admins at 12:09, 15 January 2023 2023-01-15T12:09:08Z

<p></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 12:09, 15 January 2023</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1">Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>__NOTOC__[[File:Sfp.png|thumb|Example of a rebuttal to essentialist/anedcotal claims about the nature of teen-[[boylovers]]. The "concept" being self-restraint]]</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>__NOTOC__[[File:Sfp.png|thumb|Example of a rebuttal to essentialist/anedcotal claims about the nature of teen-[[boylovers]]. The "concept" being self-restraint]]</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[MAP activism]]. We see self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The '''Self-fulfilling prophecy''' or [[Wikipedia:Causal loop|causal loop]] is a regular factor in negotiating the pitfalls of [[<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">MAP Movement|</ins>MAP activism]]. We see self-fulfilling prophecies in three main areas:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>*'''Trauma and mental illness''' reported by MAPs and people (particularly women) with a history of [[minor-adult sex]]. In the latter case, the scarring (absent actual physical or psychological coercion) is caused by [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|prior and retrospective social conditioning/iatrogenic harm]]. In turn, the cause of these harms is a system of stigmas and taboos on MAPs and Minor-Adult sex. Still, these outcomes are [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|statistically insignificant]] - that is to say, there is no ''overall'' social trend towards said stereotypical reactions.</div></td></tr> </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=14441&oldid=prev The Admins: /* Quotes */ 2022-09-10T15:31:59Z

<p><span class="autocomment">Quotes</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:31, 10 September 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The harm, <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ehman suggests </del>[[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[alternative article by same author - Ed]</del>]], is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been scarred for life.''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The harm, [[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ehman suggests</ins>]], is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been scarred for life.''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr> </table>

The Admins https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/index.php?title=Self-fulfilling_prophecy&diff=14440&oldid=prev The Admins: /* "Counterintuitive" examples */ 2022-09-10T15:30:22Z

<p><span class="autocomment">"Counterintuitive" examples</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:30, 10 September 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l14">Line 14:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 14:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There are many examples of self-fulfilling false prophecies.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>There are many examples of self-fulfilling false prophecies.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One flip-side of the self-fulfilling prophecy, is the fact that while overall levels of offending are low, [[pro-c]] and [[anti-contact]] pedophiles are thought to exhibit no difference in their levels of offending (see [[Research: Prevalence|Bailey]] for example). This is most probably because stridently anti-contact beliefs are associated with generally higher levels of conditioned guilt. Conditioned guilt is in turn related to lower levels of self-control. It could then be speculated that the number of pro-c individuals who philosophically justify what they see as an ethical form of offending, is roughly matched by the number of stridently anti-contact individuals whose beliefs represent a [[Debate Guide: Self-loathing hatred|psychological reaction]] against their lack of self-control, hence their propensity to act.</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>One flip-side of the self-fulfilling prophecy, is the fact that while overall levels of offending are low, [[pro-c]] and [[anti-contact]] pedophiles are thought to exhibit no difference in their levels of offending (see [[Research: Prevalence|Bailey]] for example). This is most probably because stridently anti-contact beliefs are associated with generally higher levels of conditioned guilt. Conditioned guilt <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">(sex-shame) </ins>is in turn related to lower levels of self-control<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">/higher impulsivity.<ref>[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6179944/ Rendina HJ, López-Matos J, Wang K, Pachankis JE, Parsons JT. The Role of Self-Conscious Emotions in the Sexual Health of Gay and Bisexual Men: Psychometric Properties and Theoretical Validation of the Sexual Shame and Pride Scale. J Sex Res. 2019 May-Jun;56(4-5):620-631</ins>.<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]</ref> </ins>It could then be speculated that the number of pro-c individuals who philosophically justify what they see as an ethical form of offending, is roughly matched by the number of stridently anti-contact individuals whose beliefs represent a [[Debate Guide: Self-loathing hatred|psychological reaction]] against their lack of self-control, hence their propensity to act.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Another example, is the (positive) subjective reactions of underage girls to penetrative sex with adults in the ''Finnish Victimization Survey'', as investigated by [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|Rind (2022) and Lahtinen (2018).]] These were in stark contrast to their negative experiences with non-penetrative sex (regardless of partner age). The reasons for this are thought to be related to girls' general unwillingness to agree to penetrative sex in what they consider to be awkward encounters with partners they are less familiar with.</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Another example, is the (positive) subjective reactions of underage girls to penetrative sex with adults in the ''Finnish Victimization Survey'', as investigated by [[Research: Prevalence of Harm and Negative Outcomes|Rind (2022) and Lahtinen (2018).]] These were in stark contrast to their negative experiences with non-penetrative sex (regardless of partner age). The reasons for this are thought to be related to girls' general unwillingness to agree to penetrative sex in what they consider to be awkward encounters with partners they are less familiar with.</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span class="autocomment">Quotes</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:51, 1 August 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The harm, [[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ehman suggests</del>]], is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been scarred for life.''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref></blockquote></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><blockquote>''The harm, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Ehman suggests </ins>[[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[alternative article by same author - Ed]</ins>]], is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been scarred for life.''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref></blockquote></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr> </table>

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<p><span class="autocomment">Quotes</span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 10:49, 1 August 2022</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l22">Line 22:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 22:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Ole Martin Moen]]:</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:</del>''<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"</del>The harm, Ehman suggests, is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been scarred for life.<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">"</del>''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"><blockquote></ins>''The harm, <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">[[Media:What Really Is Wrong With Pedophilia by Robert Ehman.pdf|</ins>Ehman suggests<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">]]</ins>, is the result of a self-fulfilling prophecy. In his view, adult-child sex is made traumatizing by a culture that labels it with strongly evaluative terms such as “abuse,” “assault,” and “molestation” and communicates to children that they have been scarred for life.''<ref>[http://www.olemartinmoen.com/wp-content/uploads/Pedophilia-and-computer-generated-child-pornography.pdf Ole Martin Moen: Article on Pedophilia]</ref<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">></blockquote</ins>></div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==See also==</div></td></tr> </table>

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