Testimony: CSA (Children's Sexual Advances) - Revision history

Jim Burton at 20:20, 15 December 2025

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	''Family friend. I initiated on a camping trip; we were in same tent at state park; oral sex to orgasm for both of us; several times during the night; incredibly erotic, tremendous release, very pleasurable. Not real close; didn't enjoy kissing. Afterwards scary because I enjoyed it so much. Not wanting to be near him on the trip because afraid others would notice. Once per month for the next 4 years that I initiated; never talked about it; sex was all it was. Wished I was straight so the attractions would go away, because the sexual gratification was so strong.''		''"Family friend. I initiated on a camping trip; we were in same tent at state park; oral sex to orgasm for both of us; several times during the night; incredibly erotic, tremendous release, very pleasurable. Not real close; didn't enjoy kissing. Afterwards scary because I enjoyed it so much. Not wanting to be near him on the trip because afraid others would notice. Once per month for the next 4 years that I initiated; never talked about it; sex was all it was. Wished I was straight so the attractions would go away, because the sexual gratification was so strong."''
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	''It lasted 9 months with his science teacher. "It developed over time and was great. We became friends and I invited him over once when my parents weren't home. I practically had to force sex on him because he was afraid about losing his job. Ended when I went away for the summer and he wasn't a teacher at my school no more.''		''It lasted 9 months with his science teacher. "It developed over time and was great. We became friends and I invited him over once when my parents weren't home. I practically had to force sex on him because he was afraid about losing his job. Ended when I went away for the summer and he wasn't a teacher at my school no more."''
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	''The man was a family friend; the sex was mutually initiated, oral, off and on for 10 years (a couple of times per month), and "physically great." It confused the subject that the man was married, yet was willing to have sex with him. "Eventually I fell in love with him; knew I was gay but did not broadcast this; I was curious because of the age difference. Mutual oral sex happened after he fondled me; it was the first orgasm I ever had.''		''The man was a family friend; the sex was mutually initiated, oral, off and on for 10 years (a couple of times per month), and "physically great." It confused the subject that the man was married, yet was willing to have sex with him. "Eventually I fell in love with him; knew I was gay but did not broadcast this; I was curious because of the age difference. Mutual oral sex happened after he fondled me; it was the first orgasm I ever had."''
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Jim Burton: /* BoyLover.net series */

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BoyLover.net series

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	===Thread: Online survey on boys who have "floored" BoyLover.net members===		===Thread: Online survey on boys who have "floored" BoyLover.net members===

	Some ~~authors~~ noted general curiosity; initiating kisses and asking intimate questions.		Some respondents noted general curiosity; initiating kisses and asking intimate questions.

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	Three-year old D was a highly sexed boy who had been involved in sex play with age mates and an older child. He asked his therapist if she wanted to put her mouth on his “dinky.” When she replied in the negative, he pleaded “you'll like it,” “I'll pay you money,” “I'll be your best friend.” When asked if he liked to “play dinky,” he frowned menacingly, clenched his fists and aggressively replied, “yes, I like it, and I'm not going to stop!”		''Three-year old D was a highly sexed boy who had been involved in sex play with age mates and an older child. He asked his therapist if she wanted to put her mouth on his “dinky.” When she replied in the negative, he pleaded “you'll like it,” “I'll pay you money,” “I'll be your best friend.” When asked if he liked to “play dinky,” he frowned menacingly, clenched his fists and aggressively replied, “yes, I like it, and I'm not going to stop!”''
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Jim Burton: yes, it is the same guy as on Wikipedia!

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yes, it is the same guy as on Wikipedia!

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	*'''In his book [http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/martinson/infant/InfantAndChildSexuality.html Infant and Child Sexuality], Floyd Martinson cites three cases of children making sexual advances towards a parent:'''		*'''In his book [http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/martinson/infant/InfantAndChildSexuality.html Infant and Child Sexuality], Floyd Martinson cites three cases from [[Wikipedia:Larry Constantine\|Larry Constantine]], of children making sexual advances towards a parent:'''

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Jim Burton: rm. implied pedologic

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	{{Template:A&T}}Here follows a few examples of the younger partner (child or older minor) making ~~a clear advance~~. These are a selected few accounts, and do not represent all such accounts in the project, of which many more (both from boys and girls) show initiative in seeking the contact.		{{Template:A&T}}Here follows a few examples of the younger partner (child or older minor) making sexual overtures. These are a selected few accounts, and do not represent all such accounts in the project, of which many more (both from boys and girls) show initiative and/or seeking the contact.

	*'''Bruce Rind gives a number of accounts of minor-adult sex initiated by the minor in a [http://www.ipce.info/library_2/rind/rind_gay_boys_app.htm 2001 study] ("Gay and Bisexual Adolescent Boys' Sexual Experiences With Men"):'''		*'''Bruce Rind gives a number of accounts of minor-adult sex initiated by the minor in a [http://www.ipce.info/library_2/rind/rind_gay_boys_app.htm 2001 study] ("Gay and Bisexual Adolescent Boys' Sexual Experiences With Men"):'''

Jim Burton: normalize bp to rest of the project - introduce block quotes, as they appear multiply under each heading. these are a possible adaptation for the rest of the project

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normalize bp to rest of the project - introduce block quotes, as they appear multiply under each heading. these are a possible adaptation for the rest of the project

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Prue at 00:50, 15 December 2025

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	'''Psychology Professor ~~'''~~[http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]~~'''~~''':		'''Psychology Professor [http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]''':
	:Mostly I do.		:Mostly I do.

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	Psychology Professor '''[http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]''':		'''Psychology Professor '''[http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]'''''':
	:Mostly I do.		:Mostly I do.

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	:Well, sometimes one of us, sometimes the other. Yes, and sometimes he wants it and I don't, so then we don't do it. Mostly I'm the first one to begin.		:Well, sometimes one of us, sometimes the other. Yes, and sometimes he wants it and I don't, so then we don't do it. Mostly I'm the first one to begin.

			'''Award winning poet [[Delphine Lecompte]] (2021)'''.

			On May 6th, 2021, the Dutch Newspaper "Propria Cures," latin for "Mind Your Own Business," published an issue in their newspaper on free speech, specifically in relation to [[pedophilia]].<ref>[https://brongersma.info/PROPRIA_CURES_-_6_May_2021 Propria Cures English Translation (available for PDF viewing or download)], ''Brongersma.info''.</ref> Lecompte's contribution was number 8, titled "The gardener and the five-year-old child," which appears to be an account of Lecompte's [[Research:_Prevalence_of_Harm_and_Negative_Outcomes\|own positively experienced sexual feelings and age-gap sex in childhood]]. Among other things, she wrote (retaining her original formatting):

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			''As a five-year-old child, I was courted by my grandparents' sturdy weathered half-Bretan gardener. But actually I seduced him. [...]

			''I stroked the gardener's stiff apron and asked him to show me around his world.''

			''The gardener chased me away grimly. He didn't like children.'' [...]

			''I knew I couldn't seduce the gardener with words, but maybe the swing would do the trick.''

			''If I rocked very high he could see my panties, but he never looked at me, the rocking child. Let alone the panties. His back was always proudly and stubbornly turned to the swing.''

			''Nevertheless, every Friday I wore my tightest cutest panties in the hope that the gardener would ever glance at them. After six months, I gave up.''

			''I needed to be bolder. I devised a plan: on Thursday night, I would sneak down to my grandparents' basement to disguise a bottle of gin and a goblet of apricots in syrup, and I would then gobble up this rich, irresistible feast with the gardener the next day.'' [...]

			''At first I watched the gardener like a horny sneaky voyeur: I gaped unabashedly at the sagging pants and at the sweaty slit leading to the anus.'' [...]

			''The gardener turned around and caught me. But he was not annoyed, rather amused.''

			''He called me to him, patted my crown and told me I could tip out the wheelbarrow full of weeds in that corner over there.''

			''But the wheelbarrow was too heavy and the gardener came up behind me and put his hands on my hands and pressed his blissfully hard midsection against my back, and I thought I was going to cum.'' [...]

			''The next Friday was the day: without swing, without gin, and without apricots I went to my goal.''

			''I said to the gardener, "Caress me in the bushes, I need it. I've been waiting so long."''

			''The gardener seemed moved, and he obeyed, thank God.''

			''He tenderly laid me on a tarp between two conifers. He carefully removed my clothes and groped my small limbs with his dirty warm fingers. It was delicious! He built it up heavenly slowly and I almost didn't last, but finally he reached my vagina.'' [...]

			''We experienced two years of fun, nay ecstasy. I spoiled him too, his penis in my mouth. Tricky it was not, on the contrary.''

			''Even the penetration was much less painful than expected.'' [...]

			''We were never caught, never booed, never stoned.''

			''But one day his sister died and the gardener was able to get a better job: detective in Newport.''

			''In my poems I regularly introduce the gardener as a character. I then invariably call him "the pedophile gardener," but that's not right. We were a couple, a vulgar blind foolish happy in love innocent couple.''

			''It was beautiful and it was not perverse. Or if there was perversion involved it came from me.''<ref>For more detail not captured in this excerpt, please read the full story as printed in ''Propria Cures''.</ref>
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	'''Brooke Hopkins. [[Media:(1993)_Brooke_Hopkins_-_A_Question_of_Child_Abuse.pdf\|A Question of Child Abuse]], ''Raritan'', Vol. 13 Issue 2, Fall 1993. (13 pages). [https://web.archive.org/web/20130420133204/http://snifferdogonline.com/reports/Child%20Abuse,%20Sexuality%20and%20Violence/Brooke%20Hopkins%20-%20A%20Question%20of%20Child%20Abuse.pdf backup]		'''Brooke Hopkins. [[Media:(1993)_Brooke_Hopkins_-_A_Question_of_Child_Abuse.pdf\|A Question of Child Abuse]], ''Raritan'', Vol. 13 Issue 2, Fall 1993. (13 pages). [https://web.archive.org/web/20130420133204/http://snifferdogonline.com/reports/Child%20Abuse,%20Sexuality%20and%20Violence/Brooke%20Hopkins%20-%20A%20Question%20of%20Child%20Abuse.pdf backup]