Testimony: CSA (Children's Sexual Advances) - Revision history

Prue at 02:42, 1 July 2026

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	''It was beautiful and it was not perverse. Or if there was perversion involved it came from me.''<ref>For more detail not captured in this excerpt, please read the full story as printed in ''Propria Cures''.</ref>		''It was beautiful and it was not perverse. Or if there was perversion involved it came from me.''<ref>For more detail not captured in this excerpt, please read the full story as printed in ''Propria Cures''.</ref>
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			*'''[[Joan Nestle]], [https://annas-archive.gl/md5/d3baf967efaba267e721d81cc9441ca2 ''A Restricted Country''] (1987).''' - Feminist writer describes her attraction to an older woman named Susan Bender, in 1953 at age 13.
			*:"Susan attracted me. I thought she was butchy and I sensed a strong body under her unattractive clothes. I was looking for this secret strength even then. I remember one afternoon trying to seduce her in her bedroom, and somehow handcuffs were part of the game. I soon realized, however, that even though Susan looked the part, she was slow to follow my lead."

	*'''Brooke Hopkins. [[Media:(1993)_Brooke_Hopkins_-_A_Question_of_Child_Abuse.pdf\|A Question of Child Abuse]], ''Raritan'', Vol. 13 Issue 2, Fall 1993. (13 pages), see [https://web.archive.org/web/20130420133204/http://snifferdogonline.com/reports/Child%20Abuse,%20Sexuality%20and%20Violence/Brooke%20Hopkins%20-%20A%20Question%20of%20Child%20Abuse.pdf backup at Web Archive]:		*'''Brooke Hopkins. [[Media:(1993)_Brooke_Hopkins_-_A_Question_of_Child_Abuse.pdf\|A Question of Child Abuse]], ''Raritan'', Vol. 13 Issue 2, Fall 1993. (13 pages), see [https://web.archive.org/web/20130420133204/http://snifferdogonline.com/reports/Child%20Abuse,%20Sexuality%20and%20Violence/Brooke%20Hopkins%20-%20A%20Question%20of%20Child%20Abuse.pdf backup at Web Archive]:

Jim Burton at 20:20, 15 December 2025

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	''Family friend. I initiated on a camping trip; we were in same tent at state park; oral sex to orgasm for both of us; several times during the night; incredibly erotic, tremendous release, very pleasurable. Not real close; didn't enjoy kissing. Afterwards scary because I enjoyed it so much. Not wanting to be near him on the trip because afraid others would notice. Once per month for the next 4 years that I initiated; never talked about it; sex was all it was. Wished I was straight so the attractions would go away, because the sexual gratification was so strong.''		''"Family friend. I initiated on a camping trip; we were in same tent at state park; oral sex to orgasm for both of us; several times during the night; incredibly erotic, tremendous release, very pleasurable. Not real close; didn't enjoy kissing. Afterwards scary because I enjoyed it so much. Not wanting to be near him on the trip because afraid others would notice. Once per month for the next 4 years that I initiated; never talked about it; sex was all it was. Wished I was straight so the attractions would go away, because the sexual gratification was so strong."''
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Jim Burton at 20:19, 15 December 2025

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	''It lasted 9 months with his science teacher. "It developed over time and was great. We became friends and I invited him over once when my parents weren't home. I practically had to force sex on him because he was afraid about losing his job. Ended when I went away for the summer and he wasn't a teacher at my school no more.''		''It lasted 9 months with his science teacher. "It developed over time and was great. We became friends and I invited him over once when my parents weren't home. I practically had to force sex on him because he was afraid about losing his job. Ended when I went away for the summer and he wasn't a teacher at my school no more."''
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	''The man was a family friend; the sex was mutually initiated, oral, off and on for 10 years (a couple of times per month), and "physically great." It confused the subject that the man was married, yet was willing to have sex with him. "Eventually I fell in love with him; knew I was gay but did not broadcast this; I was curious because of the age difference. Mutual oral sex happened after he fondled me; it was the first orgasm I ever had.''		''The man was a family friend; the sex was mutually initiated, oral, off and on for 10 years (a couple of times per month), and "physically great." It confused the subject that the man was married, yet was willing to have sex with him. "Eventually I fell in love with him; knew I was gay but did not broadcast this; I was curious because of the age difference. Mutual oral sex happened after he fondled me; it was the first orgasm I ever had."''
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Jim Burton: /* BoyLover.net series */

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BoyLover.net series

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	===Thread: Online survey on boys who have "floored" BoyLover.net members===		===Thread: Online survey on boys who have "floored" BoyLover.net members===

	Some ~~authors~~ noted general curiosity; initiating kisses and asking intimate questions.		Some respondents noted general curiosity; initiating kisses and asking intimate questions.

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Jim Burton at 19:50, 15 December 2025

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	Three-year old D was a highly sexed boy who had been involved in sex play with age mates and an older child. He asked his therapist if she wanted to put her mouth on his “dinky.” When she replied in the negative, he pleaded “you'll like it,” “I'll pay you money,” “I'll be your best friend.” When asked if he liked to “play dinky,” he frowned menacingly, clenched his fists and aggressively replied, “yes, I like it, and I'm not going to stop!”		''Three-year old D was a highly sexed boy who had been involved in sex play with age mates and an older child. He asked his therapist if she wanted to put her mouth on his “dinky.” When she replied in the negative, he pleaded “you'll like it,” “I'll pay you money,” “I'll be your best friend.” When asked if he liked to “play dinky,” he frowned menacingly, clenched his fists and aggressively replied, “yes, I like it, and I'm not going to stop!”''
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Jim Burton: yes, it is the same guy as on Wikipedia!

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yes, it is the same guy as on Wikipedia!

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	*'''In his book [http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/martinson/infant/InfantAndChildSexuality.html Infant and Child Sexuality], Floyd Martinson cites three cases of children making sexual advances towards a parent:'''		*'''In his book [http://www.ipce.info/booksreborn/martinson/infant/InfantAndChildSexuality.html Infant and Child Sexuality], Floyd Martinson cites three cases from [[Wikipedia:Larry Constantine\|Larry Constantine]], of children making sexual advances towards a parent:'''

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Jim Burton: rm. implied pedologic

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rm. implied pedologic

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	{{Template:A&T}}Here follows a few examples of the younger partner (child or older minor) making ~~a clear advance~~. These are a selected few accounts, and do not represent all such accounts in the project, of which many more (both from boys and girls) show initiative in seeking the contact.		{{Template:A&T}}Here follows a few examples of the younger partner (child or older minor) making sexual overtures. These are a selected few accounts, and do not represent all such accounts in the project, of which many more (both from boys and girls) show initiative and/or seeking the contact.

	*'''Bruce Rind gives a number of accounts of minor-adult sex initiated by the minor in a [http://www.ipce.info/library_2/rind/rind_gay_boys_app.htm 2001 study] ("Gay and Bisexual Adolescent Boys' Sexual Experiences With Men"):'''		*'''Bruce Rind gives a number of accounts of minor-adult sex initiated by the minor in a [http://www.ipce.info/library_2/rind/rind_gay_boys_app.htm 2001 study] ("Gay and Bisexual Adolescent Boys' Sexual Experiences With Men"):'''

Jim Burton: normalize bp to rest of the project - introduce block quotes, as they appear multiply under each heading. these are a possible adaptation for the rest of the project

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normalize bp to rest of the project - introduce block quotes, as they appear multiply under each heading. these are a possible adaptation for the rest of the project

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Prue at 00:50, 15 December 2025

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	'''Psychology Professor ~~'''~~[http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]~~'''~~''':		'''Psychology Professor [http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]''':
	:Mostly I do.		:Mostly I do.

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	Psychology Professor '''[http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]''':		'''Psychology Professor '''[http://www.ipce.info/host/sandfort_87/chapter2.htm Theo Sandfort asks 12-year-old Wouter who usually initiates sex in his relationship with a 42-year-old man]'''''':
	:Mostly I do.		:Mostly I do.