The Trauma Myth - Revision history

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	*[[Wikipedia:Susan Clancy\|Wikipedia article]] about Susan Clancy.		*[[Wikipedia:Susan Clancy\|Wikipedia article]] about Susan Clancy.
	*Reader's reviews [https://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Myth-Sexual-Children-Aftermath/dp/0465022111 on Amazon]		*Reader's reviews [https://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Myth-Sexual-Children-Aftermath/dp/0465022111 on Amazon]
			* * [https://web.archive.org/web/20220626052404/http://www.williamapercy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Civilization_and_its_demons Civilization and its demons] - an article by William Percy about hysteria with many quotes from the book selected by the author

	==References==		==References==

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Reaction to the book

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	== Reaction to the book ==		== Reaction to the book ==

	The book evoked many negative judgements among media commentators and professionals, many of them personally invested in questionable realms of expertise such as [[repressed memory]] and recovered memories, which are reliant upon the idea of "CSA" and its inherent trauma. Clancy was accused of promoting CSA, despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent wrongfulness of adult-child sex. She was forced to flee the country, now works in South America, Nicaragua, and her career was harmed in the process - making any subsequent work in her area of expertise a near impossibility.		The book evoked many negative judgements among media commentators and professionals, many of them personally invested in questionable realms of expertise such as [[repressed memory]] and recovered memories, which are reliant upon the idea of "CSA" and its inherent trauma. Clancy was accused of promoting CSA, despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent wrongfulness of adult-child sex.<ref>[https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/health/26zuger.html Abigail Zuger, M.D. "Abusing Not Only Children, but Also Science", The New York Times, 2010]</ref> She was forced to flee the country, now works in South America, Nicaragua <ref>[https://en.incae.edu/es/directorio/susan-clancy.html Susan A Clancy at the INCAE Business school]</ref>, and her career was harmed in the process - making any subsequent work in her area of expertise a near impossibility.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	== Reaction to the book ==		== Reaction to the book ==

	The book evoked many negative judgements among media commentators and professionals, many of them personally invested in questionable realms of expertise such as [[repressed memory]] and recovered memories, which are reliant upon the idea of "CSA" and its inherent trauma. Clancy was accused of promoting CSA, despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent wrongfulness of adult-child sex. She was forced to flee the country, now works in South America, and her career was harmed in the process - making any subsequent work in her area of expertise a near impossibility.		The book evoked many negative judgements among media commentators and professionals, many of them personally invested in questionable realms of expertise such as [[repressed memory]] and recovered memories, which are reliant upon the idea of "CSA" and its inherent trauma. Clancy was accused of promoting CSA, despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent wrongfulness of adult-child sex. She was forced to flee the country, now works in South America, Nicaragua, and her career was harmed in the process - making any subsequent work in her area of expertise a near impossibility.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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	== Reaction to the book ==		== Reaction to the book ==

	The book evoked many negative judgements among media commentators and professionals, many of them personally invested in questionable realms of expertise such as [[repressed memory]] and recovered memories, which are reliant upon the idea of "CSA" and its inherent trauma. Clancy was accused of promoting CSA, despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent wrongfulness of adult-child sex. She was forced to flee the country, and her career was harmed in the process.		The book evoked many negative judgements among media commentators and professionals, many of them personally invested in questionable realms of expertise such as [[repressed memory]] and recovered memories, which are reliant upon the idea of "CSA" and its inherent trauma. Clancy was accused of promoting CSA, despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent wrongfulness of adult-child sex. She was forced to flee the country, now works in South America, and her career was harmed in the process - making any subsequent work in her area of expertise a near impossibility.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

The Admins: found no evidence on her wikipedia article; she needs her own article on here

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found no evidence on her wikipedia article; she needs her own article on here

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	__NOTOC__[[File:The trauma myth.jpg\| thumb\| 200px\|Cover]]		__NOTOC__[[File:The trauma myth.jpg\| thumb\| 200px\|Cover]]

	'''''The Trauma Myth: The Truth About the Sexual Abuse of Children — and Its Aftermath''''' is a book written by [[Susan Clancy]], and published in 2010. It documents the work conducted during her graduate research project in the mid-1990s, including her interviews of adults who identified as survivors of [[Child Sexual Abuse\|CSA]] in responding to her newspaper advert. Much to her surprise, she found that most of the self-identified victims of CSA did not feel trauma, in the usual sense of the word, until they grew old enough to really understand what had happened. Clancy argues that the popular perception of [[Child Sexual Abuse\|CSA]] as a universally damaging experience has been overblown by media and popular culture, and that a more nuanced and individualized approach is needed to understand the effects of such experiences. Dr Clancy was met with hostility from her peers and academic superiors for challenging the "trauma myth".		'''''The Trauma Myth: The Truth About the Sexual Abuse of Children — and Its Aftermath''''' is a book written by [[Wikipedia:Susan Clancy\|Susan Clancy]], and published in 2010. It documents the work conducted during her graduate research project in the mid-1990s, including her interviews of adults who identified as survivors of [[Child Sexual Abuse\|CSA]] in responding to her newspaper advert. Much to her surprise, she found that most of the self-identified victims of CSA did not feel trauma, in the usual sense of the word, until they grew old enough to really understand what had happened. Clancy argues that the popular perception of [[Child Sexual Abuse\|CSA]] as a universally damaging experience has been overblown by media and popular culture, and that a more nuanced and individualized approach is needed to understand the effects of such experiences. Dr Clancy was met with hostility from her peers and academic superiors for challenging the "trauma myth".

	From the book's description:<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Myth-Sexual-Children-Aftermath/dp/0465022111 Amazon.com: Description]</ref>		From the book's description:<ref>[https://www.amazon.com/Trauma-Myth-Sexual-Children-Aftermath/dp/0465022111 Amazon.com: Description]</ref>
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	== Reaction to the book ==		== Reaction to the book ==
	The book evoked many negative judgements among ~~readers~~ and professionals. ~~She~~ was accused of promoting ~~child sexual abuse~~ despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent ~~wrongness~~ of adult-child sex. She was forced ~~by her colleagues~~ to flee the country, and her ~~successful~~ career was ~~destroyed. She is now doing menial research~~ in ~~Columbia university~~.
			The book evoked many negative judgements among media commentators and professionals, many of them personally invested in questionable realms of expertise such as [[repressed memory]] and recovered memories, which are reliant upon the idea of "CSA" and its inherent trauma. Clancy was accused of promoting CSA, despite her repeated strong emphasis on anti contact attitudes and inherent wrongfulness of adult-child sex. She was forced to flee the country, and her career was harmed in the process.

	== See also ==		== See also ==

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Reflection on implications of Clancy’s findings

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	*Book review by William A. Percy, [https://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/susan-clancys-stake-through-heart Susan Clancy's Stake Through The Heart Of The Child Sex Abuse Industry]		*'''Book review by William A. Percy, [https://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/susan-clancys-stake-through-heart Susan Clancy's Stake Through The Heart Of The Child Sex Abuse Industry]
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	<blockquote>''Clancy asserts that trauma only occurs years later, when a hostile society condemns it to the victim once an adult. One wonders whether if society were to accept such relationships as inevitable, as it has homosexuality, prostitution, and gambling, there would be no harm at all – a solution that she doesn’t seem to consider. Since legalizing those relationships often seems to have had positive results, she should at least consider having the age of consent lowered to 14, which would mark progress and reduce trauma and other damage.''</blockquote>		<blockquote>''Clancy asserts that trauma only occurs years later, when a hostile society condemns it to the victim once an adult. One wonders whether if society were to accept such relationships as inevitable, as it has homosexuality, prostitution, and gambling, there would be no harm at all – a solution that she doesn’t seem to consider. Since legalizing those relationships often seems to have had positive results, she should at least consider having the age of consent lowered to 14, which would mark progress and reduce trauma and other damage.''</blockquote>

	*Review by Dissident (2011) [https://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/essay-trauma-myth-analysis-susan-clancy Essay: The Trauma Myth - An Analysis Of The Susan Clancy Interview]		*'''Review by Dissident (2011) [https://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/essay-trauma-myth-analysis-susan-clancy Essay: The Trauma Myth - An Analysis Of The Susan Clancy Interview]'''

	<blockquote> "''[...]'Confusion' is the most frequently reported word when victims are asked to describe what the experience was like. Confusion is a far cry from trauma."		<blockquote> "''[...]'Confusion' is the most frequently reported word when victims are asked to describe what the experience was like. Confusion is a far cry from trauma."
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	<blockquote>''the fact that someone enjoys something and receives pleasure from it, and the fact that they don't resist as a result, isn't cause for Clancy (or too many other people, for that matter) to question whether we should continue to categorize something as "abuse." Instead, it's assumed that the youth in question "doesn't know what's going on," because if they did, according to the logic being presented here, they would resist. This is a case of stereotyping younger people as much as it is their "abusers."''</blockquote>		<blockquote>''the fact that someone enjoys something and receives pleasure from it, and the fact that they don't resist as a result, isn't cause for Clancy (or too many other people, for that matter) to question whether we should continue to categorize something as "abuse." Instead, it's assumed that the youth in question "doesn't know what's going on," because if they did, according to the logic being presented here, they would resist. This is a case of stereotyping younger people as much as it is their "abusers."''</blockquote>

	* ~~Book~~ review and commentary by Ray Harris, 2011 [https://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/trauma-myth-susan-clancy-book-review-ray-harris The Trauma Myth by Susan Clancy]		* B'''ook review and commentary by Ray Harris, 2011 [https://www.ipce.info/library/web-article/trauma-myth-susan-clancy-book-review-ray-harris The Trauma Myth by Susan Clancy]'''

	<blockquote>''Always, always listen to the victim. If they tell you they thought it was wrong, but liked it and went along with it, then accept what they say and validate their experience. Whatever you do, don’t become morally outraged on their behalf because then they might to begin to doubt themselves and enter the spiral of negative thoughts that are the real cause of stress. [...] Dare I suggest that more harm, more trauma has been caused by the self-appointed moral protectors than by the the actual abuse itself.''</blockquote>		<blockquote>''Always, always listen to the victim. If they tell you they thought it was wrong, but liked it and went along with it, then accept what they say and validate their experience. Whatever you do, don’t become morally outraged on their behalf because then they might to begin to doubt themselves and enter the spiral of negative thoughts that are the real cause of stress. [...] Dare I suggest that more harm, more trauma has been caused by the self-appointed moral protectors than by the the actual abuse itself.''</blockquote>

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-*'''[[Richard Green|Green, R.]] (2010). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-010-9643-y The Trauma Myth.] ''Archives of Sexual Behavior'', 39(5), 1205–1206. doi:10.1007/s10508-010-9643-y'''
+*'''Book review by [[Richard Green|Green, R.]] (2010). [https://sci-hub.se/10.1007/s10508-010-9643-y The Trauma Myth.] ''Archives of Sexual Behavior'', 39(5), 1205–1206. doi:10.1007/s10508-010-9643-y'''
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 ''Would this hypothetical social reappraisal enhance the prevalence of child–adult sexualized contact? Perhaps. But, if societal attitudes change in the direction of accommodating non-aggressive contact doubles the prevalence rate and is usually non-traumatic in childhood and later, is that to be preferred over half the prevalence rate where most children will later experience trauma?''
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	*[[Essay:Some_thoughts_on_"The_Trauma_Myth"_by_Susan_Clancy\|Analysis of the book from MAP perspective]]. Including a note on [[pro-c]], implications of findings, what is still unexplained and possible explanations.		*[[Essay:Some_thoughts_on_"The_Trauma_Myth"_by_Susan_Clancy\|Analysis of the book from MAP perspective]]. Including a note on [[pro-c]], implications of findings, what is still unexplained and possible explanations.
	*[[Essay:The_Trauma_Myth--My_Analysis_Of_The_Susan_Clancy_Interview\|Analysis of Susan Clancy's interview from MAP perspective]]		*[[Essay:The_Trauma_Myth--My_Analysis_Of_The_Susan_Clancy_Interview\|Analysis of Susan Clancy's interview from MAP perspective]]
	*[[House of Cards\|House of Cards by Robyn Dawes]]		*[[House of Cards\|House of Cards]] by Robyn Dawes
	*[[Harmful to Minors]] by Judith Levine		*[[Harmful to Minors]] by Judith Levine

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	*[[Essay:The_Trauma_Myth--My_Analysis_Of_The_Susan_Clancy_Interview\|Analysis of Susan Clancy's interview from MAP perspective]]		*[[Essay:The_Trauma_Myth--My_Analysis_Of_The_Susan_Clancy_Interview\|Analysis of Susan Clancy's interview from MAP perspective]]
	*[[House of Cards\|House of Cards by Robyn Dawes]]		*[[House of Cards\|House of Cards by Robyn Dawes]]
			*[[Harmful to Minors]] by Judith Levine

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	*[[Essay:Some_thoughts_on_"The_Trauma_Myth"_by_Susan_Clancy\|Analysis of the book from MAP perspective]]. Including a note on [[pro-c]], implications of findings, what is still unexplained and possible explanations.		*[[Essay:Some_thoughts_on_"The_Trauma_Myth"_by_Susan_Clancy\|Analysis of the book from MAP perspective]]. Including a note on [[pro-c]], implications of findings, what is still unexplained and possible explanations.
	*[[Essay:The_Trauma_Myth--My_Analysis_Of_The_Susan_Clancy_Interview\|Analysis of Susan Clancy's interview from MAP perspective]]		*[[Essay:The_Trauma_Myth--My_Analysis_Of_The_Susan_Clancy_Interview\|Analysis of Susan Clancy's interview from MAP perspective]]
			*[[House of Cards\|House of Cards by Robyn Dawes]]

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