Youth-Adult Marriage - Revision history

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	'''Youth-Adult Marriages''' (often described with the objectifying and sometimes inaccurate term "'''child marriage'''"), have existed throughout history. We have documented evidence of many such marriages in [[:Category:People: Indian\|Indian]] society, and while such couples must nowadays hide their existence, TV depictions appear to continue in the modern era - causing some controversy that has been confined to Western-dominated online spaces.<ref>[https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/smriti-irani-directs-immediate-action-against-pehredaar-piya-ki-that-shows-marri/300359 Smriti Irani Wants 'Immediate Action' Against Pehredaar Piya Ki That Shows Marriage Between Minor Boy And Woman]</ref><ref>[https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/bollywood-pehredaar-piya-ki-goes-off-air-here-is-what-happened-398671 Pehredaar Piya Ki goes off air, here’s what happened]</ref> Historically, the tradition also extends to the Western world and most certainly to the present in Islam. Within American society, "child marriage" [[wikipedia:Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marriage_age\|refers 19 in every 20 times]] to the union of a 16-17 year old youth with another youth or adult.		'''Youth-Adult Marriages''' (often described with the objectifying and sometimes inaccurate term "'''child marriage'''"), have existed throughout history.<ref>Nicholas L. Syrett (2013). [https://muse.jhu.edu/pub/1/article/509026 "I Did and I Don’t Regret It": Child Marriage and the Contestation of Childhood in the United States, 1880–1925.] ''The Journal of the History of Childhood and Youth'', 6 (2)": 314-331.</ref><ref>Syrett, Nicholas L. (2016). ''American Child Bride: A History of Minors and Marriage in the United States'', Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press.</ref><ref>For extensive scholarly discussion of India's history of child marriage, see the work of Prof. Ishita Pande.</ref><ref>For a more contemporary treatment of unlawful age-gap marriage in non-western countries, see the work of Prof. [[Hoko Horii]], e.g. [https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/research/research-output/law/child-marriage-as-a-choice-rethinking-agency-in-international-human-rights ''Child marriage as a choice: rethinking agency in international human rights''], (PhD Thesis: Lieden University, 2020); Horii, H. (2020). [https://www.wellesu.com/10.1177/0907568220901758 Walking a thin line: Taking children’s decision to marry seriously?] ''Childhood'', Vol. 27(2): 254–270.'''</ref> We have documented evidence of many such marriages in [[:Category:People: Indian\|Indian]] society, and while such couples must nowadays hide their existence, TV depictions appear to continue in the modern era - causing some controversy that has been confined to Western-dominated online spaces.<ref>[https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/smriti-irani-directs-immediate-action-against-pehredaar-piya-ki-that-shows-marri/300359 Smriti Irani Wants 'Immediate Action' Against Pehredaar Piya Ki That Shows Marriage Between Minor Boy And Woman]</ref><ref>[https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/bollywood-pehredaar-piya-ki-goes-off-air-here-is-what-happened-398671 Pehredaar Piya Ki goes off air, here’s what happened]</ref> Historically, the tradition also extends to the Western world and most certainly to the present in Islam. Within American society, "child marriage" [[wikipedia:Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marriage_age\|refers 19 in every 20 times]] to the union of a 16-17 year old youth with another youth or adult.

	There exists a body of obscure and sometimes questionable "scientific" content on "child marriage". For example, as late as 2023, scientists were attempting to link extreme weather to increased child marriage.<ref>[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230829124821.htm Extreme weather events linked to increased child marriage]</ref>		There exists a body of obscure and sometimes questionable "scientific" content on "child marriage". For example, as late as 2023, scientists were attempting to link extreme weather to increased child marriage.<ref>[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230829124821.htm Extreme weather events linked to increased child marriage]</ref>

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	===Among MAPs and Allies===		===Among MAPs and Allies===

	Youth-Adult Marriage is a divisive topic among [[Minor Attracted Person\|MAPs]], with many left and libertarian MAPs opposing the idea of ''any'' marriage as a legally-recognized concept at any age. Nevertheless, [[pro-c]] MAP allies have ~~made the argument~~ that Youth-Adult Marriages are not ''inherently'' abusive, and that the institutionalization of abuse is dependent upon whether a culture ~~permits~~ or ~~encourages it~~. These arguments are similar to ~~the~~ arguments already taking place within American society, where ~~an alliance of~~ conservatives and socially libertarian lobbying organizations ~~acts~~ against attempts to raise the age of marriage.<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/end-child-marriage-u-s-you-might-be-surprised-who-n1050471 End child marriage in the U.S.? You might be surprised at who's opposed - NBC News]</ref>		Youth-Adult Marriage is a divisive topic among [[Minor Attracted Person\|MAPs]], with many left and libertarian MAPs opposing the idea of ''any'' marriage as a legally-recognized concept at any age. Nevertheless, [[pro-c]] MAP allies have argued that Youth-Adult Marriages are not ''inherently'' abusive, and that the institutionalization of abuse is dependent upon the behavior of the people involved - whether a culture supports mutually willing / consensual relationships or stigmatizes, shames, strains and frustrates / oppresses such unions. These arguments are similar to arguments already taking place within American society, where conservatives and socially libertarian lobbying organizations act against attempts to raise the age of marriage.<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/end-child-marriage-u-s-you-might-be-surprised-who-n1050471 End child marriage in the U.S.? You might be surprised at who's opposed - NBC News]</ref>

	One such argument was mounted on the Heretic TOC blog in 2021:		One such argument was mounted on the Heretic TOC blog in 2021:
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	<blockquote>''Today we tend to romanticize marriage, thinking of it only in terms of “love”. This conception, however, risks obscuring what marriage is and what it involves other than “love”. Marriage is not “just a bit of paper”, it’s a contract that bestows recognition by a state, usually privileging the couple with rights that do not apply to unmarried persons. We might, therefore, ask whether MAPs should oppose child marriage by virtue of opposing marriage in general, in terms of equality under the law?''		<blockquote>''Today we tend to romanticize marriage, thinking of it only in terms of “love”. This conception, however, risks obscuring what marriage is and what it involves other than “love”. Marriage is not “just a bit of paper”, it’s a contract that bestows recognition by a state, usually privileging the couple with rights that do not apply to unmarried persons. We might, therefore, ask whether MAPs should oppose child marriage by virtue of opposing marriage in general, in terms of equality under the law?''

	''In the 19th century context concerning child brides, Syrett emphasises how marriage facilitated the movement of property / inherited wealth, asserting this to be a major consideration in marriages before the 20th century, particularly among elites. Making sure a man did not marry only to make-off with a girl’s fortune was partly why parents were the final arbiters to “okay” a marriage. Today, the requirement of parental consent to marry under the age of majority persists as a hangover of this provision.''		''In the 19th century context concerning child brides, [[Nicholas_Syrett\|Syrett]] emphasises how marriage facilitated the movement of property / inherited wealth, asserting this to be a major consideration in marriages before the 20th century, particularly among elites. Making sure a man did not marry only to make-off with a girl’s fortune was partly why parents were the final arbiters to “okay” a marriage. Today, the requirement of parental consent to marry under the age of majority persists as a hangover of this provision.''

	''If marriage was simply a dramatized expression of love, a fun ceremony-party where people come together, it becomes much harder to see why intergenerational couples would be prohibited from expressing themselves. At least, in a society where hostility and dismissal (coupled by prison-terms and iatrogenic harm / secondary victimization) were not the a priori response directed at such couples, the practice might find space for cultural sanction.''<ref>[https://heretictoc.com/2021/01/13/should-a-child-ever-get-married/ Should a child ever get married?] On Heretic TOC.</ref></blockquote>		''If marriage was simply a dramatized expression of love, a fun ceremony-party where people come together, it becomes much harder to see why intergenerational couples would be prohibited from expressing themselves. At least, in a society where hostility and dismissal (coupled by prison-terms and iatrogenic harm / secondary victimization) were not the a priori response directed at such couples, the practice might find space for cultural sanction.''<ref>[https://heretictoc.com/2021/01/13/should-a-child-ever-get-married/ Should a child ever get married?] On Heretic TOC.</ref></blockquote>

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	'''Youth-Adult Marriages''' (often described with the objectifying and sometimes inaccurate term "'''child marriage'''"), have existed ~~[[Wikipedia:Child marriage\|~~throughout history]]. We have documented evidence of many such marriages in [[:Category:People: Indian\|Indian]] society, and while such couples must nowadays hide their existence, TV depictions appear to continue in the modern era - causing some controversy that has been confined to Western-dominated online spaces.<ref>[https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/smriti-irani-directs-immediate-action-against-pehredaar-piya-ki-that-shows-marri/300359 Smriti Irani Wants 'Immediate Action' Against Pehredaar Piya Ki That Shows Marriage Between Minor Boy And Woman]</ref><ref>[https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/bollywood-pehredaar-piya-ki-goes-off-air-here-is-what-happened-398671 Pehredaar Piya Ki goes off air, here’s what happened]</ref> Historically, the tradition also extends to the Western world and most certainly to the present in Islam. Within American society, "child marriage" [[wikipedia:Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marriage_age\|refers 19 in every 20 times]] to the union of a 16-17 year old youth with another youth or adult.		'''Youth-Adult Marriages''' (often described with the objectifying and sometimes inaccurate term "'''child marriage'''"), have existed throughout history. We have documented evidence of many such marriages in [[:Category:People: Indian\|Indian]] society, and while such couples must nowadays hide their existence, TV depictions appear to continue in the modern era - causing some controversy that has been confined to Western-dominated online spaces.<ref>[https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/smriti-irani-directs-immediate-action-against-pehredaar-piya-ki-that-shows-marri/300359 Smriti Irani Wants 'Immediate Action' Against Pehredaar Piya Ki That Shows Marriage Between Minor Boy And Woman]</ref><ref>[https://www.indiatvnews.com/entertainment/bollywood-pehredaar-piya-ki-goes-off-air-here-is-what-happened-398671 Pehredaar Piya Ki goes off air, here’s what happened]</ref> Historically, the tradition also extends to the Western world and most certainly to the present in Islam. Within American society, "child marriage" [[wikipedia:Child_marriage_in_the_United_States#Marriage_age\|refers 19 in every 20 times]] to the union of a 16-17 year old youth with another youth or adult.

	There exists a body of obscure and sometimes questionable "scientific" content on "child marriage". For example, as late as 2023, scientists were attempting to link extreme weather to increased child marriage.<ref>[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230829124821.htm Extreme weather events linked to increased child marriage]</ref>		There exists a body of obscure and sometimes questionable "scientific" content on "child marriage". For example, as late as 2023, scientists were attempting to link extreme weather to increased child marriage.<ref>[https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/08/230829124821.htm Extreme weather events linked to increased child marriage]</ref>

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	China's [[Wikipedia:Yi people\|Yi people]] consider the minimum marriageable age for a man to be ten years old, and the minimum for a woman to be nine. In terms of marriageable age, an even number is the best age for the man, and an odd number is the best age for the woman.<ref>[http://www.scsqw.cn/scyx/scms/content_27114 沙马鲁石 ‖ 康巴彝族婚俗文化（一）]</ref> The ethnic minorities in Guangxi, such as the Zhuang, Miao, Yao and other ethnic minorities, also have a relatively low marriage age, mostly ranging from 7 to 15 years old, and the situation of each tribe is different. Han Chinese who have historically lived around minority areas are also affected and have a relatively low marriage age. After the founding of the Republic of China, the custom of early marriage was suppressed until it was completely banned during the Red China period.<ref>[http://www.gxdfz.org.cn/flbg/mzms/202012/t20201213_60163.html gxdfz.org.cn]</ref> "Child marriage" still goes on in some parts of China. In one example in a remote mountainous village, the girl was 13 years old, and the boy 16. They used pseudonyms in the media to protect their privacy.<ref>[http://politics.people.com.cn/n/2014/1201/c1001-26124379.html People.com account]</ref>		China's [[Wikipedia:Yi people\|Yi people]] consider the minimum marriageable age for a man to be ten years old, and the minimum for a woman to be nine. In terms of marriageable age, an even number is the best age for the man, and an odd number is the best age for the woman.<ref>[http://www.scsqw.cn/scyx/scms/content_27114 沙马鲁石 ‖ 康巴彝族婚俗文化（一）]</ref> The ethnic minorities in Guangxi, such as the Zhuang, Miao, Yao and other ethnic minorities, also have a relatively low marriage age, mostly ranging from 7 to 15 years old, and the situation of each tribe is different. Han Chinese who have historically lived around minority areas are also affected and have a relatively low marriage age. After the founding of the Republic of China, the custom of early marriage was suppressed until it was completely banned during the Red China period.<ref>[http://www.gxdfz.org.cn/flbg/mzms/202012/t20201213_60163.html gxdfz.org.cn]</ref> "Child marriage" still goes on in some parts of China. In one example in a remote mountainous village, the girl was 13 years old, and the boy 16. They used pseudonyms in the media to protect their privacy.<ref>[http://politics.people.com.cn/n/2014/1201/c1001-26124379.html People.com account]</ref>

			Within Indian society, one key case study in the prohibition of such marriages was said to be the violent rape and death of Phulomani Dasi. Researchers have since noted how an obsessive focus on the characteristics of her body (i.e. was she prepubescent?) robbed her of agency, by deprioritising the obvious violence visited upon her.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snE-zzxjLsw YouTube: Researcher discusses Phulomani Dasi]</ref>

	===Contrary Academic Perspectives===		===Contrary Academic Perspectives===

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	*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>		*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>
	*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.		*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.
	*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', one of America's first black female ~~millionaire~~, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.		*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', one of America's first black female millionaires, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.

	==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==		==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==

GeoTerra: /* Prominent examples */

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	*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>		*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>
	*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.		*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.
	*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', America's first ~~self-made~~ black female millionaire, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.		*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', one of America's first black female millionaire, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.

	==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==		==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==

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	*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>		*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>
	*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.		*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.
	*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', ~~one of~~ America's first black female ~~millionaires~~, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.		*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', America's first self-made black female millionaire, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.

	==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==		==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==

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	*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>		*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>
	*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.		*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.
	*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', ~~One~~ of America's first black female millionaires, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.		*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', one of America's first black female millionaires, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.

	==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==		==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==

GeoTerra: /* Prominent examples */

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	*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>		*Dec. 12, 1957, Rock icon, [[Wikipedia:Jerry Lee Lewis\|Jerry Lee Lewis]] marries his 13-year-old cousin, '''Myra Gale Brown'''. She gave birth to two of his six children from seven marriages, but goes on to divorce him following public furor and domestic abuse.<ref>[https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/how-jerry-lee-lewis-career-was-ruined-by-his-shocking-marriage/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons How Jerry Lee Lewis’ career was ruined when he married his 13-year-old cousin - NYP]</ref>
	*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.		*Indian icons, [[Srinivasa Ramanujan]], [[B. R. Ambedkar]], [[Anandi Gopal Joshi]], [[Rabindranath Tagore]], and [[Chakravarti Rajagopalachari]] had 9, 9, 9, 10 and 10 year old wives respectively, as was normal in their culture at the time. [[Rani Laxmibai]] also married at 13.
			*'''[[Wikipedia:Madam_C._J._Walker\|Madam C. J. Walker]]''', One of America's first black female millionaires, married Moses McWilliams at the age of 14 to escape abuse at the hands of her brother-in-law.

	==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==		==The incendiary problematics of "child marriage"==

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	After conducting a short literature review, [[Newgon]] found widespread evidence of anti "child" (youth-adult) marriage campaigners "overstepping the mark" with respect to their attempts to establish a base of "evidence". Claims made about the effect of "child marriage" on sexual health often recycle discredited tropes about [[Research: Teen pregnancy\|"teen pregnancy"]] and unsubstantiated statistics from UN reports. It is often impossible to find any evidence these figures are based upon sound methodology and adequately controlled experimental designs. For example, one such paper (written by an activist Physician with no academic credentials) is used frequently by Wikipedia to make multiple such unsupported claims.<ref>[https://sci-hub.se/10.3201/eid1211.060510 Nour, N. (2006). Health Consequences of Child Marriage in Africa. Emerging Infectious Diseases, 12(11), 1644–1649. ]</ref>		After conducting a short literature review, [[Newgon]] found widespread evidence of anti "child" (youth-adult) marriage campaigners "overstepping the mark" with respect to their attempts to establish a base of "evidence". Claims made about the effect of "child marriage" on sexual health often recycle discredited tropes about [[Research: Teen pregnancy\|"teen pregnancy"]] and unsubstantiated statistics from UN reports. It is often impossible to find any evidence these figures are based upon sound methodology and adequately controlled experimental designs. For example, one such paper (written by an activist Physician with no academic credentials) is used frequently by Wikipedia to make multiple such unsupported claims.<ref>[https://sci-hub.se/10.3201/eid1211.060510 Nour, N. (2006). Health Consequences of Child Marriage in Africa. Emerging Infectious Diseases, 12(11), 1644–1649. ]</ref>

	Since many countries have laws in place allowing girls in particular to be married in their mid-teens, the concept can also not be said to have any validity as a global ''legal'' construct. Such marriages are often deemed necessary for economic and cultural reasons. It appears the ''idea'' of combating "child marriage" is instead used to provide an all-too-often unchallenged veneer of credibility for Western Imperialism and arbitrarily define legal relationships in "lesser" cultures as a form of ''discrimination'' or ''violence against girls and women'', while ignoring many that doubtless fulfill such criteria, including ''adult'' marriages. The intention here, is to promote adherence to a Westernized model of "education" that undermines local/traditional family customs among ethnic groups, and reduces the ability of communities to resist occupation by Western financial elites. This increases the economic dependency of subservient economies upon the US Dollar reserve currency, and may somewhat explain the reluctance of some developing economies to have Western-funded NGOs operating within their borders.		Since many countries have laws in place allowing girls in particular to be married in their mid-teens, the concept can also not be said to have any validity as a global ''legal'' construct. Such marriages are often deemed necessary for economic and cultural reasons. It appears the ''idea'' of combating "child marriage" is instead used to provide an all-too-often unchallenged veneer of credibility for Western Imperialism and arbitrarily define legal relationships in "lesser" cultures as a form of ''discrimination'' or ''violence against girls and women'', while ignoring many that doubtless fulfill such criteria, including ''adult'' marriages. The intention here, is to promote adherence to a Westernized model of "education" that undermines local/traditional family customs among ethnic groups, and reduces the ability of communities to resist occupation by Western financial elites. This increases the economic dependency of subservient economies upon the US Dollar reserve currency, and may somewhat explain the reluctance<ref>[https://www.asianews.it/news-en/The-Indian-branch-of-Save-the-Children-loses-permit-to-receive-foreign-funds-58937.html The Indian branch of Save the Children loses permit to receive foreign funds]</ref> of some developing economies to have Western-funded NGOs operating within their borders.

	It is also unlikely that keeping all children in education is a "scalable" or sustainable solution for the poorer of these economies, at least for as long as they remain US dependencies with little economic independence. This leaves said economies in a "vicious cycle" whereby they are left with a "problem" (defined by the West) that can never be solved by the Western interventions offered as a solution. The winners in this scenario are Western NGOs that seek rent off the back of developing world problems.		It is also unlikely that keeping all children in education is a "scalable" or sustainable solution for the poorer of these economies, at least for as long as they remain US dependencies with little economic independence. This leaves said economies in a "vicious cycle" whereby they are left with a "problem" (defined by the West) that can never be solved by the Western interventions offered as a solution. The winners in this scenario are Western NGOs that seek rent off the back of developing world problems.