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'''Age of Consent laws are a blunt instrument...''' | |||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: It's wrong because it's illegal|It's wrong because it's illegal]] - Homosexuality was once illegal. | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: It's wrong because it's illegal|It's wrong because it's illegal]] - Homosexuality was once illegal. | ||
*[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent|Problems with the Age of Consent]] - There are numerous flaws, listed on this page. | *[[Debate Guide: Problems with the Age of Consent|Problems with the Age of Consent]] - There are numerous flaws, listed on this page. | ||
:*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Legal pragmatism|Legal pragmatism]] - It is wrongly argued that high Ages of Consent are "pragmatic". | |||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: There is no law that prohibits minors|There is no law that prohibits minors]] - Nonsensical argument claiming minors are already sexually emancipated. | |||
'''Myths and bad meta-ethics plague discussions of expressed adult-minor sexuality...''' | '''Myths and bad meta-ethics plague discussions of expressed adult-minor sexuality...''' | ||
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*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: All child molesters are pedophiles|All child molesters are pedophiles]] - This belief is demonstrably false. | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: All child molesters are pedophiles|All child molesters are pedophiles]] - This belief is demonstrably false. | ||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: "Stranger danger" or "It could be anyone"|"Stranger danger" or "It could be anyone"]] - Two conflicting "expert" opinions (both unfounded, abused to incite fear). | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: "Stranger danger" or "It could be anyone"|"Stranger danger" or "It could be anyone"]] - Two conflicting "expert" opinions (both unfounded, abused to incite fear). | ||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: If we could only save one child|If we could only save one child]] - Negative utilitarianism is discredited and nonsensical meta-ethics. | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: If we could only save one child|If we could only save one child]] - Negative utilitarianism is discredited and nonsensical meta-ethics. | ||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Child sexualisation and objectification| | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Child sexualisation and objectification|Sexualisation and objectification]] - Sex/physical relationships needn't be all-consuming. | ||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Sexual inexperience|Sexual inexperience]] - When is supposedly the "best time" to gain life experience? | |||
*''Against'': [[Debate Guide: Teacher-Student Sex|Teacher/student sex]] - The contention these relations are always ethically wrong. | |||
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'''Levels of harm are exaggerated and the sources are completely misunderstood...''' | '''Levels of harm are exaggerated and the sources are completely misunderstood...''' | ||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Power disparity|Power disparity/Stockholm Syndrome]] - Differences in power | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Power disparity|Power disparity/Stockholm Syndrome]] - Differences in power may lead to abuse, but how often is this actually the case? | ||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|Profound and lifelong scarring]] - These | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Profound and lifelong scarring|Profound and lifelong scarring]] - These sequelae are thankfully rare. | ||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Doomed from the beginning|Doomed from the beginning]] - Will adult-minor relationships really die off as the youngster grows older? | |||
*''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Recidivism is highest among child sex offenders|Recidivism is highest among child sex offenders]] - Demonstrably false. | *''Against:'' [[Debate Guide: Recidivism is highest among child sex offenders|Recidivism is highest among child sex offenders]] - Demonstrably false. | ||
'''Other societies and species are points of interest...''' | '''Other societies and species are points of interest...''' | ||
*[[Debate Guide: Nonhuman relatives|Nonhuman relatives]] - Other species' adult-juvenile sexuality. | *[[Debate Guide: Nonhuman relatives|Nonhuman relatives]] - Other species' adult-juvenile sexuality. | ||
*[[Debate Guide: Historical nonadult-adult sex|Historical nonadult-adult sex]] - Historical | *[[Debate Guide: Historical nonadult-adult sex|Historical nonadult-adult sex]] - Historical societies in which said relations were permitted. | ||
''' | '''Many people also speak from direct experience...''' | ||
*[[Accounts and Testimonies|Our database of accounts]] - An anecdotal study. | *[[Accounts and Testimonies|Our database of accounts]] - An anecdotal study, including useful infographics. | ||
Latest revision as of 23:31, 14 September 2025
Age of Consent laws are a blunt instrument...
- Against: It's wrong because it's illegal - Homosexuality was once illegal.
- Problems with the Age of Consent - There are numerous flaws, listed on this page.
- Against: Legal pragmatism - It is wrongly argued that high Ages of Consent are "pragmatic".
- Against: There is no law that prohibits minors - Nonsensical argument claiming minors are already sexually emancipated.
Myths and bad meta-ethics plague discussions of expressed adult-minor sexuality...
- Against: All child molesters are pedophiles - This belief is demonstrably false.
- Against: "Stranger danger" or "It could be anyone" - Two conflicting "expert" opinions (both unfounded, abused to incite fear).
- Against: If we could only save one child - Negative utilitarianism is discredited and nonsensical meta-ethics.
- Against: Sexualisation and objectification - Sex/physical relationships needn't be all-consuming.
- Against: Sexual inexperience - When is supposedly the "best time" to gain life experience?
- Against: Teacher/student sex - The contention these relations are always ethically wrong.
Levels of harm are exaggerated and the sources are completely misunderstood...
- Against: Power disparity/Stockholm Syndrome - Differences in power may lead to abuse, but how often is this actually the case?
- Against: Profound and lifelong scarring - These sequelae are thankfully rare.
- Against: Doomed from the beginning - Will adult-minor relationships really die off as the youngster grows older?
- Against: Recidivism is highest among child sex offenders - Demonstrably false.
Other societies and species are points of interest...
- Nonhuman relatives - Other species' adult-juvenile sexuality.
- Historical nonadult-adult sex - Historical societies in which said relations were permitted.
Many people also speak from direct experience...
- Our database of accounts - An anecdotal study, including useful infographics.