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Here, so-called "legal pragmatism" refers to | Here, so-called "legal pragmatism" refers to an argument that concedes the possibility of unjust convictions, but remains in favor of maintaining [[Age of Consent]] laws above 16 or 18. | ||
<blockquote><font color="green">''''' | <blockquote><font color="green">'''''A legal age provides a <u>fine line in the sand</u>, where society needs it. In court, objective, simple legislation cuts out the need for subjective interpretations. A few unsafe, or unfair convictions are no loss, when it allows us to show <u>zero tolerance to the predators</u>.'''''</font></blockquote> | ||
A number of issues come to mind, all having a bearing on the viability of this argument: | A number of issues come to mind, all having a bearing on the viability of this argument: | ||
*How '''common''' are | *How '''common''' are predatory relationships really? [[Research]] may help us here, and would tend to suggest that we need a far more sensitive legal tool for separating abuse of minors from voluntary relations. For the proponent's argument to work, we would have to make a series of assumptions - for example, believing that student relationships with female teachers are the only potentially non-abusive exceptions. Ultimately, lived experience is subjective, and thus can only be ''inefficiently'' judged by objective legal criteria such as age and presumed authority. | ||
*What | *What ethical system are we using? [[Debate Guide: If we could only save one child|Negative utilitarianism]], applied in defense of consent laws, may appear to contradict our proponent's argument, as he is tolerating considerable suffering for a "greater good". Under a negative utilitarian model, do the collateral [[Special Article: Adverse effects of hysteria|harms caused]] by a broad-sweeping and punitive legal scheme have adequate offsets in that suffering among abuse victims is adequately reduced? | ||
:*Further, are we not bringing about further harms, by establishing a [[Self-fulfilling prophecy|causal loop]] in which puritanical attitudes bring about the same results puritanical laws seek to avoid? [[Research]] appears to suggest that self-perception, shame and stigma are very strongly associated with psychological harms. | |||
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Revision as of 15:52, 3 April 2024
Here, so-called "legal pragmatism" refers to an argument that concedes the possibility of unjust convictions, but remains in favor of maintaining Age of Consent laws above 16 or 18.
A legal age provides a fine line in the sand, where society needs it. In court, objective, simple legislation cuts out the need for subjective interpretations. A few unsafe, or unfair convictions are no loss, when it allows us to show zero tolerance to the predators.
A number of issues come to mind, all having a bearing on the viability of this argument:
- How common are predatory relationships really? Research may help us here, and would tend to suggest that we need a far more sensitive legal tool for separating abuse of minors from voluntary relations. For the proponent's argument to work, we would have to make a series of assumptions - for example, believing that student relationships with female teachers are the only potentially non-abusive exceptions. Ultimately, lived experience is subjective, and thus can only be inefficiently judged by objective legal criteria such as age and presumed authority.
- What ethical system are we using? Negative utilitarianism, applied in defense of consent laws, may appear to contradict our proponent's argument, as he is tolerating considerable suffering for a "greater good". Under a negative utilitarian model, do the collateral harms caused by a broad-sweeping and punitive legal scheme have adequate offsets in that suffering among abuse victims is adequately reduced?
- Further, are we not bringing about further harms, by establishing a causal loop in which puritanical attitudes bring about the same results puritanical laws seek to avoid? Research appears to suggest that self-perception, shame and stigma are very strongly associated with psychological harms.