Debate Guide: Social Media and Trolling
Social Media platforms such as Twitter require a different debating strategy to bulletin boards, due to the fast-moving, character-limited type of discourse that is permitted. This page contains three guides:
- The first is a guide to using Twitter, which goes into some technical detail about how to avoid censorship and other challenges. This is a shortened version of our advice given to Twitter users who want to make a positive contribution to the destigmatization effort.
- The second is a guide to trolling techniques in general.
- The third is a primer for alternative-right trolls who seek to take advantage of MAP discourse.
Trolling Guide
What is our aim?
As an activist troll, we are not aiming to convert the apparent target to our way of thinking. We are using them as an appliance to recenter our radical ideology as "wise" or "street smart" by eliciting a predictable reaction before an audience. Demotivation of the target might be a side-benefit, but our real target is the "lurker" and less confident viewers who are not as inclined to come down on one side or the other. With this in mind, we make use of memes and links to information sites, to elaborate on our position without getting wordy.
Should you create an identity?
If you have the time and the will, by all means create a persona. Generally, these days, a conservative or alternative-right persona works best, because conservatives are assumed to be more counterculture, outrageous and un-PC. We must also consider that online, liberals are more suspicious of imposters because their accounts aren't getting banned every weekend. As a result, liberals and SJW hive drones tend to have more followers, more connections and more shared "respectability" codes to conform to in polite and plausible company. So, the woke or SJW pose is more of a long-term project, and may require some understanding of key tenets such as standpoint theory for example. Another classic activist troll pose is the "Researcher", since it is harder to pin a researcher as that "anonymous person with too much knowledge on a topic". Why not identify explicitly as someone who anonymously baits, or explicitly exposes and corrects hypocrisy in liberals?
A word about dishonesty. If you are employing exaggeration, be plausible in your dishonesty by employing hyperbole and sarcasm. This way, you are less likely to come off as some kind of conspiracy-loon, and more the master troll.
Choosing your target
Middle or low intelligence targets are bread and butter for a troll, as they are easier to bait and manipulate. These tend to be people with biographies indicating an involvement in sports, gaming, "consumption" of popular culture, or cultural/political topics covered by the corporate media. Remember, people hang out in online bubbles - both conservative and liberal. They do this for group-reinforcement catharsis - simply hearing their own ideas repeated in soothing metronomic fashion. It gives them a sense of certainty that allays the insecurity of living with an average intellect, and also helps them explain away their failings as injustices. Humans are group animals, and each group creates their own culture, in which they are the "good people", and only "their own people's unique perspective" can attest to this. For this reason, you should expect to be heavily down-voted, "ratio'd", etc, and you shouldn't care one bit about this as your aim is to puncture the comfort bubble.
When it comes to threads/trends, discriminate, but don't be fussy. You can easily throw out the same or similar message a few times, and see who bites. High profile targets on relevant trends are preferred, as are discussions high up the thread. Try to catch fresh trends, not exhausted conversations, and ride the wave from there. If a thread isn't working, just switch over - disengage and reengage - don't get bogged down. Don't get involved in protracted philosophical debates - always cut back to the original absurdity of your target's position, using new angles and reference material.
In-thread strategies
Entering abruptly
Make an entrance. The politest way to do this is with a myth-and-fact type rebuttal, using a meme and link to a website. If you think you need more impetus (and don't care so much about risking an account ban), get personal:
- "I'm going to be quite honest, you're a fucking idiot. Evidently mid-witted, with an IQ between 80 and 110. How do I know this? Because you are simply regurgitating the BS you have been taught by whatever mainstream, or phoney-"alternative" media is in vogue with your groupies. For you, it's a flight to security, but sure as hell looks retarded from the outside. Now hear me out..."
That's obviously an extreme example, but it sets out the kind of dramatic entrance that is likely to provoke either extreme irrationality or a block. So we are looking at a risk-reward decision here.
The absurd proposition
Very much an optional tactic. This is a proposition or counterargument that you can only just about defend within the confines of logic. Or an absurd mocking caricature of your opponent's presumed position, taking it to an almost illogical conclusion. The aim here is to pitch an invisible middle ground to your audience. It's important that you don't defend your absurd proposition in the first reply - just throw it out there in all its nakedness, coming across as plausibly dishonest or mocking in tone.
Play the target
Study your target and make personalized attacks (see one classic example) on their ideas as "typical" of their group - identifying why they are angered by something, in order to provoke that anger or elicit a partial concession. For example, with religious fundamentalists on an MAP topic:
- "I guess you god-wary appreciators of incestual rites were always going to be outraged by a load of liberals getting their hands on *other* people's kids"
Or -
- "It appears that as a god-fearing woman, you are simply outraged by the idea of a man and a boy experiencing erotic pleasure *outside* of sacred walls. What could I do to ease the pain? Declare all public toilets property of the Catholic Church?"
Moving on to a liberal target, why not attack the historical dishonesty of the LGBT Movement, by associating with MAPs for many decades, passing motions against the age of consent, and then breaking with them for completely expedient reasons? This potential alt-right attack on liberals and SJWs deserves an article of its own, which has been produced below.
Mind reading
Take your baiting even further by going full-on Sigmund Freud, and getting too-close-to-home. To a Gay Man:
- "Close your eyes and RELAX. Imagine you are in a book shop in the 1970s, with gay erotic literature, some of it with photographic illustrations. Some of that literature covers sex between mature men of similar ages. Some of that literature covers erotic experiences between men and mid-teen boys. There is no pressure on you, and nobody watching. What book are you going to opt for?"
Or to the straight male nonce-hater who just posted a pedo in a woodchipper meme:
- "OH... So I guess you are "one of those guys" who always dates girls in their late 20s? As long as they have a shaven pussy, petite figure, childish face, mannerisms, vocal timbre, etc. But ALWAYS an adult, because as you know, anything else would be sick and perverse!"
To the priggish Lolicon consumer trying to distance MAPs (yes, these people exist, in great number - it's a thing).:
- "Interesting, isn't it, that the one person on here protesting the most about the MAPs, is also the perv with a timeline full of kiddy sex pics. Almost as if you are trying to prove something... to who?"
Identify "copes"
Identifying coping strategies in your targets is just mind reading in reverse. It's a frustrating tactic, as it constantly distracts from the debate and puts a burden of presumed mental distortion on your target.
Dissing in plain sight
Instead of responding directly to your target, bad mouth them to another person who is engaging with them. Explain how your target will never come round to their way of thinking, pointing out the causes of their fallacious reasoning and inflexibility. This kind of proxy attack can be very triggering; it reeks of snobbery and forces your target to take the initiative in engaging with you.
Alt-right Trolling Guide
MAP Activists and the Alternative-Right generally have very little in common. While all but the most extreme libertarian Alt-Righters are unreceptive to MAP Activist arguments, it has been observed that a good grounding in MAP-awareness/sealioning over popular myths circulated about MAPs, has helped in Alt-Right trolling campaigns. Often, interrupting cathartic LGBTQ+ anti-MAP echo-chambers with authentic facts can produce explosive results, and much "owning of the libs".
The reason behind this, is the hypocrisy that liberals, SJWs and Pride-affiliated LGBTs display in their distancing of "unapproved" or "invalid" minorities such as Zoophiles and MAPs. In effect, they practice exactly the same "erasure" they decry in others, thus presenting an excellent opportunity for well-studied Alt-righters to point out their bigotry with ironically "enlightened" rebuttals.
It is very easy to trawl for these panicked comments on social media, and you will be surprised just how commonly they point straight to SJW gatekeepers and kink police with a bio full of neopronouns! Just put "Minor Attracted Person" or "Minor Attracted People" into the search box (perhaps alongside "LGBT(Q)" or "queer") and set a minimum of 2 replies. Inject yourself into the conversation and look out for the following troll-prone arguments:
1. SJWs often distance MAPs by claiming, dismissively, that MAP is just a "fancy word" - a euphemism for Pedophilia.
Claim the moral high ground by being technically and politically correct, before getting into the meat of your argument.
Instantly point out that not all minors are prepubescent children, that Pedophilia is defined by the APA, US Govt and even Wikipedia as an attraction to prepubescent children, and always has been. Go through the many categories of MAP, point out that MAPs are entitled to value neutral terminology, and finally, repeat their tropes back at them; that SJWs are "denying the existence" and "lived experiences" (of MAPs) by not respecting this!
2. Queers and SJWs often claim with dramatic hissing disdain, they have "never had anything to do with the MAPs", and that the idea gays are out to recruit children is a "pernicious myth" based upon the "defamatory" conflation of gay history with the pederast movement.
Wrong. Bring up examples of Harry Hay, Oscar Wilde, Ginsberg and the acceptance of pederasts and pedophiles within the early, post Stonewall Gay Movement. Point to Paternotte's paper[1], which is in and of itself, highly triggering for young LGBTs. Also bring up the fact that gay lib only ever cast aside the pederast once they became a liability. The above linked Newgon article on this subject is particularly useful.
3. SJWs, particularly marginalized groups such as NBs, Furries, anorexic, or "non offending" lolicon accounts are often the most vicious in their hatred towards MAPs.
Point this out as exactly what it is - projection of one's guilt and anger onto another minority as a form of cathartic group bonding between beat down deviants. Point out how they have been successfully "divided and conquered" by elite MSM propaganda, and how for the "respectable" perverts, the MAP is simply "too close to home", as he is a more honest mirror image of himself. Obviously, it's a cope!
4. SJWs and Wokists sometimes claim that MAPs are "entryists", attempting to become part of LGBTQ+ politics.
This is a simply laughable idea, given just how hard LGBTQ+ are already protesting against MAPs to disown their past associations. In reality, MAPs were at one point part of LGBTQ+ politics - when multiple organisations such as NAMBLA and Paedophile Information Exchange were official members of gay and civil rights organisations (ILGA and CHE + NCCL respectively). They even marched in pride events as recently as the 1990s; how more obvious could you get?
MAPs were eventually excluded at the behest of histrionic assimilation queens and lesbian feminists, for predominantly expedient political reasons. MAPs, have of course despised the "pride movement" ever since this great betrayal, seeking to create their own identities. They have had some success in mainstreaming the term "MAP" and conceiving a MAP Flag concept as early as 2009. This is genuinely their own work, as proven by web archive research, and not a trolling campaign.
It is clear projection of panic on the part of LGBTQ+, to suggest their former allies are trying to regain entry into a movement, that has ironically become just as intolerant and authoritarian as the 1980s American moral majority! All the pride lobby care about is public perceptions, running scared of less fashionable minorities, just like the inauthentic, sellout cowards they are.
The basic truth of the matter:
It should be pointed out that as native degenerates, liberals and SJW Wokists do not instinctively perceive anything else as degeneracy, and therefore view most forms of deviance within a morally relativistic/constructivist framework in which "invalidity" is determined by political circumstance/convenience. Point out, using the resources on Newgon, how the predominance of rational and relativistic approaches will inevitably lead to MAP and MAP-Youth relationships becoming normalized. This will always be the case unless some moral standards are held to be absolute truths, starting most importantly in childhood.
If the wokegoblin squirms and tries to problematise your rebuttal with the quasi-legalistic sophistry of "informed consent", give them this dilemma. Then point out that they are discriminating against and problematising "sex" like the truest of moralists, but only when it suits their degenerate worldview. Ask them what special argument they suddenly have against sex, given they are so permitting of their own right to express their perversions. Tell them - they are the worst kind of moralist - a selective and hypocritical one who only excuses their own behaviors. You have exposed them as inauthentic and hypocritical.
There are numerous research resources and factoid memes to use on SJWs when they revert to bigotry in their reaction to MAP trends. The acceptance of MAPs is a natural conclusion of identity politics and social justice, so to own the libs, just force them to accept their own relative and rational tenets, or swallow their pride.