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'''Krumme13''' (Crooked13) is a German online media-portal and forum for [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]], that grew out of a now dissolved activist association of the same name.<ref>[https://taz-de.translate.goog/!1124679/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translated 2002 TAZ Piece]</ref> The portal, which runs social media accounts on YouTube and Instagram is managed by [[Dieter Gieseking]], who also founded the association in 1993, officially closing it in 2003. Their application for recognition as a non-profit association was rejected in 2001, as was the entry in the German register of associations. The association had at times faced controversy concerning its "field reports" into the status and nature of [[Child pornography|Youth Erotica]], before the statutes were strengthened in the 10s. The convictions were neverteless for a soft porn story, and not images.<ref>[https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/unter-der-guertellinie-a-10e512bc-0002-0001-0000-000020899215?context=issue&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Spiegel: Google Trans]</ref><ref>[https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/tp/features/Krummes-Urteil-wegen-Paedophilie-im-Internet-3429241.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Telepolis - Google Trans]</ref> The group also called for the relaxation of Youth Erotica statutes and legislation that criminalizes voluntary sexual relations between [[Minor-adult sex|minors and adults]], arguing in favor of freedom for minors.
'''Krumme13''' (Crooked13) is a German online media-portal and forum for [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]], that grew out of a now dissolved activist association of the same name.<ref>[https://taz-de.translate.goog/!1124679/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Translated 2002 TAZ Piece]</ref> The portal, which runs social media accounts on YouTube and Instagram is managed by [[Dieter Gieseking]], who also founded the association in 1993, officially closing it in 2003. Their application for recognition as a non-profit association was rejected in 2001, as was the entry in the German register of associations. The association had at times faced controversy concerning its "field reports" into the status and nature of [[Child pornography|Youth Erotica]], before the statutes were strengthened in the 10s. The only convictions that came about from these events were nevertheless for a translated testimony from Dutch Politician [[Edward Brongersma]]'s widely legal ''Loving Boys'', and not images.<ref>[https://www-spiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/unter-der-guertellinie-a-10e512bc-0002-0001-0000-000020899215?context=issue&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Spiegel: Google Trans]</ref><ref>[https://www-heise-de.translate.goog/tp/features/Krummes-Urteil-wegen-Paedophilie-im-Internet-3429241.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Telepolis - Google Trans]</ref> Subsequently, the men were acquitted.<ref>[https://krumme13.org/text.php?s=read&id=383 Krumme13 on acquittal], and [[https://dejure.org/dienste/vernetzung/rechtsprechung?Gericht=OLG%20Koblenz&Datum=26.09.2005&Aktenzeichen=2%20Ss%20256/05 official record]]</ref> The group also called for the relaxation of Youth Erotica statutes and legislation that criminalizes voluntary sexual relations between [[Minor-adult sex|minors and adults]], arguing in favor of freedom for minors.


More recently, Krumme13 has started criminal proceedings against '''Queer.de''', after they were accused of encouraging criminal activity.
More recently, Krumme13 has started criminal proceedings against '''Queer.de''', after they were accused of encouraging criminal activity.


==External links==
==Reactions==
 
In autumn 2001, two members of Krumme13 were charged with distributing explicit materials on the internet via the Krumme13 website at the time.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20141028165953/http://www.cdu-fraktion-rlp.de/no_cache/presseinformationen/details/artikel/1472/1011/index.html?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=7&cHash=07425ddc7c CDU archive]</ref>


*[https://krumme13.org/ Official Website] - In German.
After protest actions by residents and child protection associations, Krumme13 continued its activities in Hamburg-Eidelstedt from 2002. That year around 50,000 people signed a petition from the Schotterblume e.V. (contact and information center for victims of mental, physical and sexual violence in childhood and partnership) to the German Bundestag in order to achieve a ban on pedophile associations and the “dissemination of pedophile ideas”.<ref>[https://www.schotterblume.de/verein/news/035.htm “Schotterblume” starts a petition against pedophile associations]</ref>
*[https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Krumme_13?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Google Translated Wikipedia Article]


==See also==
==See also==
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*[[NAMBLA]]
*[[NAMBLA]]
*[[Newgon]]
*[[Newgon]]
==External links==
*[https://krumme13.org/ Official Website] - In German.
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_sV--ca4bI Interview] - A relaxed interview with Dieter Gieseking (in German).
*[https://de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Krumme_13?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp Google Translated Wikipedia Article]


==References==
==References==


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Latest revision as of 11:53, 22 April 2024

Krumme13 (Crooked13) is a German online media-portal and forum for MAPs, that grew out of a now dissolved activist association of the same name.[1] The portal, which runs social media accounts on YouTube and Instagram is managed by Dieter Gieseking, who also founded the association in 1993, officially closing it in 2003. Their application for recognition as a non-profit association was rejected in 2001, as was the entry in the German register of associations. The association had at times faced controversy concerning its "field reports" into the status and nature of Youth Erotica, before the statutes were strengthened in the 10s. The only convictions that came about from these events were nevertheless for a translated testimony from Dutch Politician Edward Brongersma's widely legal Loving Boys, and not images.[2][3] Subsequently, the men were acquitted.[4] The group also called for the relaxation of Youth Erotica statutes and legislation that criminalizes voluntary sexual relations between minors and adults, arguing in favor of freedom for minors.

More recently, Krumme13 has started criminal proceedings against Queer.de, after they were accused of encouraging criminal activity.

Reactions

In autumn 2001, two members of Krumme13 were charged with distributing explicit materials on the internet via the Krumme13 website at the time.[5]

After protest actions by residents and child protection associations, Krumme13 continued its activities in Hamburg-Eidelstedt from 2002. That year around 50,000 people signed a petition from the Schotterblume e.V. (contact and information center for victims of mental, physical and sexual violence in childhood and partnership) to the German Bundestag in order to achieve a ban on pedophile associations and the “dissemination of pedophile ideas”.[6]

See also

External links

References