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A flag representing social movement for the understanding of erotic attractions and relationships involving youth and adults is currently being formed. Participants from the BL/GL communities and allies from non-oriented sites such as Newgon.com will use the flag (and the accompanying symbol, if viable) to spearhead the awareness campaign.
A flag representing social movement for the understanding of erotic attractions and relationships involving youth and adults is currently being formed. Participants from the BL/GL (CL) communities and allies from non-oriented sites such as Newgon.com will use the flag (and the accompanying symbol, if viable) to spearhead the awareness campaign.


The '''Proposals Stage''' is nearing a conclusion, and the '''Voting Stage''' is next in line.
The '''Proposals Stage''' is nearing a conclusion, and the '''Voting Stage''' is next in line.
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|The tricolor diagonal stripes attempts to represent all aspects of CL. The color pink represents the feminine, blue for the masculine, and white both for the purity of these and for all those not included in the two categories of CL expression.
|The tricolor diagonal stripes attempts to represent all aspects of the erotic. The color pink represents the feminine, blue for the masculine, and white both for the purity of these and for all those not included in the two categories of CL expression.
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* Evolution on the tricolor design, more distinct and original.  
* Evolution on the tricolor design, more distinct and original.  
* Simple to produce, and not affiliated with any symbolism that may cause conflict.
* Simple to produce, and not affiliated with any symbolism that may cause conflict.
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* May be too simple, stale or plain, not instantly recognizable as CL.  
* May be too simple, stale or plain.
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* Covers love from all beings and in all forms rather than restricting to defined parametres of acceptance
* Covers love from all beings and in all forms rather than restricting to defined parametres of acceptance
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* May be too general; not unique to childlove
* May be too general; not unique to our cause
* The heart is slightly feminine and the GirlLove symbol uses hearts (as opposed to BoyLove's triangles).
* The heart is slightly feminine and the GirlLove symbol uses hearts (as opposed to BoyLove's triangles).
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* Consists of many colours, making physical production more expensive
* Consists of many colours, making physical production more expensive
* May increase tension between LGBT and CL unless diplomatic solutions may be reached
* May increase tension between LGBT and our groups unless diplomatic solutions may be reached
* May be confused with LGBT, and not all CLs identify as homosexual
* May be confused with LGBT, and not all of us identify as homosexual
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* A new and recognizable symbolism that is not affiliated with CL's past, embraces new perspectives  
* A new and recognizable symbolism that embraces new perspectives  
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|The tricolor stripes attempts to represent all aspects of CL. The color pink represents the feminine, blue for the masculine, and white both for the purity of these and for all those not included in the two categories of CL expression.
|The tricolor stripes attempts to represent all aspects of the erotic. The color pink represents the feminine, blue for the masculine, and white both for the purity of these and for all those who do not identify with a set category of expression.
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* Simple to produce, and not affiliated with any symbolism that may cause conflict.
* Simple to produce, and not affiliated with any symbolism that may cause conflict.
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* May be too simple, stale or plain, not instantly recognizable as CL.  
* May be too simple, stale or plain.  
* Too similar to the flags of various countries, could lead to mistaken attribution.  
* Too similar to the flags of various countries, could lead to mistaken attribution.  
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Revision as of 13:30, 14 March 2009

A flag representing social movement for the understanding of erotic attractions and relationships involving youth and adults is currently being formed. Participants from the BL/GL (CL) communities and allies from non-oriented sites such as Newgon.com will use the flag (and the accompanying symbol, if viable) to spearhead the awareness campaign.

The Proposals Stage is nearing a conclusion, and the Voting Stage is next in line.

Voting

The submissions we have received are not final ideas, but concepts that will be worked on once they are chosen. In this sense, choosing a concept should be a matter of potential rather than superficial features (colour, finish, etc) of the blueprint. The concept will be chosen by a simple vote held on a number of related forums, with one vote and one reserve (tie-breaker) vote allocated to each registered screen name, and no one individual may vote on two or more different sites.

Candidates

These are the concepts which may be voted for.

Name Design Description Pros Cons
Abstract
AmaroSymbol

AP's simple design was used extensively on his now offline websites, but rarely elsewhere. A diamond incorporating two equally sized triangles symbolises union between two divided groups of people. Here, we submit it for a community vote.

  • This simple and attractive design is easy to reproduce, and builds upon existing themes.
  • It lacks symbolism beyond existent social groups.
CLogo
The CLogo is a traditional childlove symbol. It depicts a butterfly whose wings are formed by four hearts. Two are larger than the other two representing the adult and the child. Two are pink and the other two blue representing the masculine and feminine.
  • Symbol widely accepted as associated to childlove and past movements.
  • Already associated with a narrowly defined movement, hard to reproduce.
Diagonal Stripes
The tricolor diagonal stripes attempts to represent all aspects of the erotic. The color pink represents the feminine, blue for the masculine, and white both for the purity of these and for all those not included in the two categories of CL expression.
  • Evolution on the tricolor design, more distinct and original.
  • Simple to produce, and not affiliated with any symbolism that may cause conflict.
  • May be too simple, stale or plain.
Dolphin
Heart
The heart is commonly associated with love, and for a long time has referred to the spiritual, emotional, moral, and intellectual core of the human being.
  • Easily recognised universally as a sign of love
  • Covers love from all beings and in all forms rather than restricting to defined parametres of acceptance
  • May be too general; not unique to our cause
  • The heart is slightly feminine and the GirlLove symbol uses hearts (as opposed to BoyLove's triangles).
Phoenix
Rainbow
The original Rainbow Flag was designed by the LGBT and has been used to convey one message: "diversity." The rainbow consists of many equal stripes of different colours across the visual spectrum, representing different individuals coming together harmoniously.
  • Depicts similarity and relation to LGBT
  • Buffs the message of "diversity" with more diversity
  • Consists of many colours, making physical production more expensive
  • May increase tension between LGBT and our groups unless diplomatic solutions may be reached
  • May be confused with LGBT, and not all of us identify as homosexual
Rectangles
Ribbon
Sea Star
  • A new and recognizable symbolism that embraces new perspectives
Star & Stripes
Star Ribbon
Stuffed Bears
Sun
The Sun has long been revered as (one of) the most important entity in the world. It symbolises hope, power and the light of truth, sometimes being referred to as "the all-seeing."
  • A new and recognizable symbolism that embraces new perspectives
  • Simple design
  • The symbolism may be too "child-like" and potentially not representative of older youth.
Swirl
Taijitu
The Taijitu (literally "diagram of the supreme ultimate") is a well known Taoist symbol representing the principle of yin yang - seemingly opposing forces that are interconnected and interdependent in the natural world, giving rise to each other in turn.
  • May be confused with traditional Taoist symbolism
  • May cause the symbol to suffer the same fate as the swastika in the Western world
Three Stripes
The tricolor stripes attempts to represent all aspects of the erotic. The color pink represents the feminine, blue for the masculine, and white both for the purity of these and for all those who do not identify with a set category of expression.
  • Simple to produce, and not affiliated with any symbolism that may cause conflict.
  • May be too simple, stale or plain.
  • Too similar to the flags of various countries, could lead to mistaken attribution.
Triangles

Incorporating the spectrum of colour used to convey diversity, one triangle inside another symbolises inter-generational relationships.

  • The symbol stands alone and can be easily developed into a flag.
  • One possibility is a pennant design with more balance than the image used here.
  • The symbolism could be seen as excluding, stereotyping and undermining the sexuality of youths.

Variation Submissions

Most of the concepts submitted already have two or more possible variations that the organisers will take into account when finalising the design.

Results

The following online communities were, or will be consulted at each stage of the process:

The future

1. It has been suggested that the chosen flag/sybmol be used in forming a new website/awareness campaign. This website could act as a community portal, displaying links to websites who add a prominent link to their own site, using an icon developed from the flag. Whilst the homepage would only list websites that champion a political cause, participant communities would still be linked from a second index. The idea is to improve political awareness and participation.

1a. It has also been suggested that a website as described above would be particularly useful for increasing and sharing media and public liaison with admins of participant sites. It would allow administrators to better understand and organise the discussions taking place within their community and with other parties. It is possible that an invitation-only private forum could be developed for such a purpose.