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Projection, guilt, exteriorisation and self-loathing are all important parts of the violently anti-pedophile psyche.
:''In Freudian terms, the defense mechanism of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaction_formation Reaction Formation].''


One example of the need to draw lines and attack a minority comes from Media Psychology, by D. Giles:
[[Image:Naziposter.jpg|thumb|Early manifestations of the German far-right asserted an insistently masculine homosexual/pederastic identity, highly disdainful towards effeminate homosexuals]]Projection, guilt, exteriorisation and self-loathing are all important parts of the violently anti-pedophile psyche.
 
One example of the need to draw lines and attack a minority comes from Giles<ref>Giles, D. (2003) Media Psychology, Lawrence Erlbaum</ref>:


:"Part of the problem is that heterosexual male desire often sits on a knife between a preference for neonate facial features in women (clear skin, large eyes, high cheekbones) and an intense revulsion toward paedophilia. It could be argued that the ferocity of assaults on convicted (child) sex offenders and the mob violence often enacted against rehabilitating child abusers are driven partly by the need for heterosexual men to have clear boundaries between what is acceptable sexual desire (i.e., the youngest, healthiest, fertile female) and what is not (legally protected children). If a subgroup of men can be clearly identified and labelled, it reduces the uncertainty surrounding their own borderline desire for young-looking women."
:"Part of the problem is that heterosexual male desire often sits on a knife between a preference for neonate facial features in women (clear skin, large eyes, high cheekbones) and an intense revulsion toward paedophilia. It could be argued that the ferocity of assaults on convicted (child) sex offenders and the mob violence often enacted against rehabilitating child abusers are driven partly by the need for heterosexual men to have clear boundaries between what is acceptable sexual desire (i.e., the youngest, healthiest, fertile female) and what is not (legally protected children). If a subgroup of men can be clearly identified and labelled, it reduces the uncertainty surrounding their own borderline desire for young-looking women."


And Bluher (1953).
And Blueher (1953):


:"In prosecuting pedophiles, a man struggles against the suspicion that he could be one himself and, seeking reassurance, he exteriorises his own inner battlefield"
:"In prosecuting pedophiles, a man struggles against the suspicion that he could be one himself and, seeking reassurance, he exteriorises his own inner battlefield"


It would appear that a strong instinctual attraction to cute, appealing children - preferably in their naked, unblemished form, whilst not typified by throbbing, orgasmic high eroticism, is part of most people's aesthetic ideal. If the history of art is to be believed, this is most certainly the case. Yet in battling the guilt that this causes in today's society, we exteriorise our desire to distance ourselves from such attractions by attacking others who have acted (or have been painted as acting) as brutally as the stereotype suggests.
If the history of art is to be believed, it would appear that child nudes are widely appreciated and idolised aesthetically. It is easy to understand how widely these physical attractions toward the sensuality and bodies of prepubescent children must be felt, and the guilt this must cause in cultures disposed towards demonising or denying it. Through reaction formation, we externalise the resultant desire to distance ourselves from these attractions by attacking others who fit the stereotype.
 
==History of Homosexuality==
 
Reaction formation is better known as a historical feature of gay culture, in societies where [[homosexuality]] is widely condemned. In addition to the well-documented history of homosexuality and pederasty in the German far-right movement, present day trends also shed light on this psychological mechanism. For example, insistently "masculine", "straight" affected forms of male homosexuality continue to exist alongside and sometimes in opposition to its camp affected varieties. Whilst these masculine, patrist identities may have emerged because of self hate and/or the need to establish a socially acceptable identity, they have in some cases taken on a life of their own - fetishised and aesthetically appreciated in their own rights. Clearer examples can be observed in the reactions of questioning gay or bisexual men who have moved from a "straight" lifestyle, some of whom will verbally or physically attack, blame and deny after engaging in gay sex "acts" they can not reconcile with their assumed sexual identity when in a post-orgasmic state.
 
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Revision as of 17:03, 19 August 2009

In Freudian terms, the defense mechanism of Reaction Formation.
Early manifestations of the German far-right asserted an insistently masculine homosexual/pederastic identity, highly disdainful towards effeminate homosexuals

Projection, guilt, exteriorisation and self-loathing are all important parts of the violently anti-pedophile psyche.

One example of the need to draw lines and attack a minority comes from Giles[1]:

"Part of the problem is that heterosexual male desire often sits on a knife between a preference for neonate facial features in women (clear skin, large eyes, high cheekbones) and an intense revulsion toward paedophilia. It could be argued that the ferocity of assaults on convicted (child) sex offenders and the mob violence often enacted against rehabilitating child abusers are driven partly by the need for heterosexual men to have clear boundaries between what is acceptable sexual desire (i.e., the youngest, healthiest, fertile female) and what is not (legally protected children). If a subgroup of men can be clearly identified and labelled, it reduces the uncertainty surrounding their own borderline desire for young-looking women."

And Blueher (1953):

"In prosecuting pedophiles, a man struggles against the suspicion that he could be one himself and, seeking reassurance, he exteriorises his own inner battlefield"

If the history of art is to be believed, it would appear that child nudes are widely appreciated and idolised aesthetically. It is easy to understand how widely these physical attractions toward the sensuality and bodies of prepubescent children must be felt, and the guilt this must cause in cultures disposed towards demonising or denying it. Through reaction formation, we externalise the resultant desire to distance ourselves from these attractions by attacking others who fit the stereotype.

History of Homosexuality

Reaction formation is better known as a historical feature of gay culture, in societies where homosexuality is widely condemned. In addition to the well-documented history of homosexuality and pederasty in the German far-right movement, present day trends also shed light on this psychological mechanism. For example, insistently "masculine", "straight" affected forms of male homosexuality continue to exist alongside and sometimes in opposition to its camp affected varieties. Whilst these masculine, patrist identities may have emerged because of self hate and/or the need to establish a socially acceptable identity, they have in some cases taken on a life of their own - fetishised and aesthetically appreciated in their own rights. Clearer examples can be observed in the reactions of questioning gay or bisexual men who have moved from a "straight" lifestyle, some of whom will verbally or physically attack, blame and deny after engaging in gay sex "acts" they can not reconcile with their assumed sexual identity when in a post-orgasmic state.

  1. Giles, D. (2003) Media Psychology, Lawrence Erlbaum