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In 2006/7, as the burgeoning MAP blogging movement got underway (primarily on blogger.com/blogspot), there were, as to be expected, further uses of the term "minor attraction" and "MAA". The first subsequent examples of "Minor Attracted Person" we can find were linked to the blog ATC/ANU<ref>Explanatory note: Former blogspot blog ANU (absolutelynothingunified.blogspot.com - censored and uploaded to anu.nfshost.com) became ATC (attractedtochildren.org) as documented in the Wayback Machine.</ref> in Jan and Feb 2007, with the blog-author also submitting the term to a ''Guardian'' debate, Slashdot and Scienceblogs.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070223085804/blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/01/should_the_bpi_dethrone_jonath.html BLRibbon (i.e. BLueRibbon) in a ''Guardian'' comment thread]</ref><ref>[https://slashdot.org/~Brian+Ribbon/journal Slashdot: Brian Ribbon (i.e. BLueRibbon) Feb 2007 Submission]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20161203235849/http://scienceblogs.com/retrospectacle/2007/03/11/twistedpedophile-rates-obamas/ Science Blogs: Brian Ribbon Mar 2007]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070505102207/http://anu.nfshost.com/?&paged=2 Brian Ribbon as BLueRibbon - ANU - Feb and Mar 2007 use of "MAP"]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090106004742/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/category/vigilantes/  Brian Ribbon as BLueRibbon - ANU - May 2007 use of "MAP" juxtaposed against Antis]</ref> This slow pivot from "Minor Attracted Adult" and the generic "minor attraction" (as evidenced by BC archives<ref>[https://boychat.org/mbc/messages/63900.htm BC Archives]</ref>), to "Minor Attracted Person" was thought to be due to these bloggers' relatively young age (see gallery). For example, the most active authors on ANU were in their late teens, having experienced an attraction to minors before adulthood.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20081210080238/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/users/blueribbon BLueRibbon 19yo]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090106015318/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/users/daniel D Lievre Student]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090106010654/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/users/jillium Jillium 17yo]</ref> In addition to this, the first authors to use the term "Minor Attracted Person" (BLueRibbon and Daniel Lievre) were pedophilic and ephebophilic respectively (see gallery), so the more inclusive term suited their writings.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070527142958/http://anu.nfshost.com:80/ Dan Lievre - first known delineation of MAP from Pedophile - May 2007] see also [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1077866.htm BC]</ref>  
In 2006/7, as the burgeoning MAP blogging movement got underway (primarily on blogger.com/blogspot), there were, as to be expected, further uses of the term "minor attraction" and "MAA". The first subsequent examples of "Minor Attracted Person" we can find were linked to the blog ATC/ANU<ref>Explanatory note: Former blogspot blog ANU (absolutelynothingunified.blogspot.com - censored and uploaded to anu.nfshost.com) became ATC (attractedtochildren.org) as documented in the Wayback Machine.</ref> in Jan and Feb 2007, with the blog-author also submitting the term to a ''Guardian'' debate, Slashdot and Scienceblogs.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070223085804/blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2007/01/should_the_bpi_dethrone_jonath.html BLRibbon (i.e. BLueRibbon) in a ''Guardian'' comment thread]</ref><ref>[https://slashdot.org/~Brian+Ribbon/journal Slashdot: Brian Ribbon (i.e. BLueRibbon) Feb 2007 Submission]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20161203235849/http://scienceblogs.com/retrospectacle/2007/03/11/twistedpedophile-rates-obamas/ Science Blogs: Brian Ribbon Mar 2007]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070505102207/http://anu.nfshost.com/?&paged=2 Brian Ribbon as BLueRibbon - ANU - Feb and Mar 2007 use of "MAP"]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090106004742/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/category/vigilantes/  Brian Ribbon as BLueRibbon - ANU - May 2007 use of "MAP" juxtaposed against Antis]</ref> This slow pivot from "Minor Attracted Adult" and the generic "minor attraction" (as evidenced by BC archives<ref>[https://boychat.org/mbc/messages/63900.htm BC Archives]</ref>), to "Minor Attracted Person" was thought to be due to these bloggers' relatively young age (see gallery). For example, the most active authors on ANU were in their late teens, having experienced an attraction to minors before adulthood.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20081210080238/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/users/blueribbon BLueRibbon 19yo]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090106015318/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/users/daniel D Lievre Student]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090106010654/http://www.attractedtochildren.org/users/jillium Jillium 17yo]</ref> In addition to this, the first authors to use the term "Minor Attracted Person" (BLueRibbon and Daniel Lievre) were pedophilic and ephebophilic respectively (see gallery), so the more inclusive term suited their writings.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070527142958/http://anu.nfshost.com:80/ Dan Lievre - first known delineation of MAP from Pedophile - May 2007] see also [https://www.boychat.org/messages/1077866.htm BC]</ref>  


On Jun 8, 2007, Newgon.com was founded (at that time a small website started by two censored bloggers, Daniel Lievre/Llort and Jillium - also of ANU), and the new term was visible in its ethos (belatedly captured on its blog arm, dated Jul 17).<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20071113125116/http://newgon.com/blog/?p=5 Newgon use the term - Capture Jul 17, 2007. Likely to have been in splashpage "ethos" on founding date of 8 Jun 2007]</ref> B4U-Act began to use the term on June 22, 2007, incorporating it into their own lexicon.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190928064659/https://www.b4uact.org/togetherchat-submits-report-to-bmhs/ B4U-Act use the term in Jun 2007]</ref> It is likely they were aware of the new coinage by MAPs, and adopted it soon after. The late [[Michael Melsheimer]] (a MAP and founding member of [[B4U-Act]]), or prominent member [[Richard Kramer]] might have been somewhat responsible for popularizing the new language. Both individuals were in some kind of contact with the rest of the community (for example on [[BoyChat]]), and as documented earlier, Kramer had used "Minor Attracted Male" on MHAMic as early as 2001 - showing that we was flexible how the language should be used. Our predecessor, Newgon.com, created the first known dedicated article to define Minor Attracted People in September 2008 (see [https://www.newgon.net/wiki/index.php?title=Minor_Attracted_Person&action=history history]).
On Jun 8, 2007, Newgon.com was founded (at that time a small website started by two censored bloggers, Daniel Lievre/Llort and Jillium - also of ANU), and the new term was visible in its ethos (belatedly captured on its blog arm, dated Jul 17).<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20071113125116/http://newgon.com/blog/?p=5 Newgon use the term - Capture Jul 17, 2007. Likely to have been in splashpage "ethos" on founding date of 8 Jun 2007]</ref> B4U-Act began to use the term on June 22, 2007, incorporating it into their own lexicon.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20190928064659/https://www.b4uact.org/togetherchat-submits-report-to-bmhs/ B4U-Act use the term in Jun 2007]</ref> It is likely they were aware of the new coinage by MAPs, and adopted it soon after. The late [[Michael Melsheimer]] (a MAP and founding member of [[B4U-Act]]), or prominent member [[Richard Kramer]] might have been somewhat responsible for popularizing the new language. Both individuals were in some kind of contact with the rest of the community (for example on [[BoyChat]]), and as documented earlier, Kramer had used "Minor Attracted Male" on MHAMic as early as 2001 - showing that we was flexible as to how the language should be used. Our predecessor, Newgon.com, created the first known dedicated article to define Minor Attracted People in September 2008 (see [https://www.newgon.net/wiki/index.php?title=Minor_Attracted_Person&action=history history]).


===Gallery of files===
===Gallery of files===

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Since 2021, we have conducted research on the origins of the commonly used term "Minor Attracted Person" (MAP), after what appeared to be erroneous claims made by various sources in the mainstream media. The origin of the term as used today was confirmed as the now defunct MAP-run ATC/ANU blog in early 2007. This article details and sources this research project in chronological order.

It is commonly claimed that "MAP" is both novel and a "woke" codeword for pedophilia. The first two charges appear to be contradicted by the fact that the broader concept of being "Minor Attracted" can be traced back to 1998, where it was conceived by the Christian Journalist, Heather Peterson. Neither her, ANU, Richard Kramer nor any prominent person in B4U-Act are known to be followers of social-justice hyperorthodoxy (so-called wokism). The "pedocentrism" assumption appears to be challenged by the fact that the second person to use the full term "Minor Attracted Person" was a non-pedophile MAP who specified its inclusivity as his reason for using it at the time.[1]

2001 as ground zero, but no takeoff

As noted by B4U-Act (founded in 2003) in their Twitter thread, in 2007 - they, some MAPs and academic authors had been using the similar term "Minor Attracted Adult" (MAA) for some time. This was after Heather Peterson (a Christian author/researcher who embedded herself in the BoyChat community) had coined MAA in 1998, using it repeatedly on her website in the following years.[2][3][4] The Internet Archive reveals mentions of the term "Minor Attracted Person/MAP", "Minor Attracted Homosexual" and 'Minor Attracted Men" as early as 2001.[5][6][7] It has been claimed that the present term "MAP" might have been put forward at an even earlier date by the late BoyChat user GhostWriter, although archives do not exist.[8] Despite the occasional use of "minor attracted" and adoption of "Minor Attracted Adult", there is an absence of archive evidence for the other specifier terms between 2001 and 2007. This is thought to be because the post-2006 brand of online youth MAP activism (second-wave MAP activism) was virtually nonexistent at that point.

2007 - full adoption as a discourse by ANU

In 2006/7, as the burgeoning MAP blogging movement got underway (primarily on blogger.com/blogspot), there were, as to be expected, further uses of the term "minor attraction" and "MAA". The first subsequent examples of "Minor Attracted Person" we can find were linked to the blog ATC/ANU[9] in Jan and Feb 2007, with the blog-author also submitting the term to a Guardian debate, Slashdot and Scienceblogs.[10][11][12][13][14] This slow pivot from "Minor Attracted Adult" and the generic "minor attraction" (as evidenced by BC archives[15]), to "Minor Attracted Person" was thought to be due to these bloggers' relatively young age (see gallery). For example, the most active authors on ANU were in their late teens, having experienced an attraction to minors before adulthood.[16][17][18] In addition to this, the first authors to use the term "Minor Attracted Person" (BLueRibbon and Daniel Lievre) were pedophilic and ephebophilic respectively (see gallery), so the more inclusive term suited their writings.[19]

On Jun 8, 2007, Newgon.com was founded (at that time a small website started by two censored bloggers, Daniel Lievre/Llort and Jillium - also of ANU), and the new term was visible in its ethos (belatedly captured on its blog arm, dated Jul 17).[20] B4U-Act began to use the term on June 22, 2007, incorporating it into their own lexicon.[21] It is likely they were aware of the new coinage by MAPs, and adopted it soon after. The late Michael Melsheimer (a MAP and founding member of B4U-Act), or prominent member Richard Kramer might have been somewhat responsible for popularizing the new language. Both individuals were in some kind of contact with the rest of the community (for example on BoyChat), and as documented earlier, Kramer had used "Minor Attracted Male" on MHAMic as early as 2001 - showing that we was flexible as to how the language should be used. Our predecessor, Newgon.com, created the first known dedicated article to define Minor Attracted People in September 2008 (see history).

Gallery of files

  • BoyChat in 2001 - First known, but unsuccessful suggestion of "MAP"
    BoyChat in 2001 - First known, but unsuccessful suggestion of "MAP"
  • ANU Editors ages (as seen in early 2009)
    ANU Editors ages (as seen in early 2009)
  • BLueRibbon's Jan 26 2007 debate on The Guardian's comment section - in which he uses MAP twice
    BLueRibbon's Jan 26 2007 debate on The Guardian's comment section - in which he uses MAP twice
  • BLueRibbon's 10 Feb 2007 post on Slashdot (still live!). By this date, he had been censored on other platforms such as LiveJournal.[22]
    BLueRibbon's 10 Feb 2007 post on Slashdot (still live!). By this date, he had been censored on other platforms such as LiveJournal.[22]
  • BLueRibbon's corresponding ANU post
    BLueRibbon's corresponding ANU post
  • BLueRibbon using MAP, Mar 12, 2007
    BLueRibbon using MAP, Mar 12, 2007
  • He uses it again on ScienceBlogs - Mar 17, 2007
    He uses it again on ScienceBlogs - Mar 17, 2007
  • BLueRibbon 5 May 2007: Antis vs MAPs
    BLueRibbon 5 May 2007: Antis vs MAPs
  • Jim Burton - wiki warrior uses "Minor Attracted Activism" 9 May 2007
    Jim Burton - wiki warrior uses "Minor Attracted Activism" 9 May 2007
  • Daniel Lievre - delineates MAP from Pedophile May 26, 2007
    Daniel Lievre - delineates MAP from Pedophile May 26, 2007
  • Daniel Lievre - MAP in 1st Newgon Ethos
    Daniel Lievre - MAP in 1st Newgon Ethos
  • B4U-Act's Twitter account - with typo, but pointing out their adoption in Jun 2007
    B4U-Act's Twitter account - with typo, but pointing out their adoption in Jun 2007
  • 2021 explanation of the term by our Strategist
    2021 explanation of the term by our Strategist

References

  1. ↑ Dan Lievre resurfaces to confirm research
  2. ↑ Heather Peterson: Not and Oxymoron - Christian Pedophiles Form Online Support Groups Greenbelt Interfaith News, Philia, December 1998
  3. ↑ Heather Peterson: They'll Know We Are Christians by our Love: Christian Consultation on Boylove Explores the Challenges of Support - in Paraklesis, 2000
  4. ↑ Philia - The website of Heather Peterson (oldest copy)
  5. ↑ BC Oldposts - 2001: MAH.
  6. ↑ BC Oldposts - 2001: MAP 1st mention
  7. ↑ MHAMIC - Minor Attracted Men
  8. ↑ GhostWriter suggestion - BC
  9. ↑ Explanatory note: Former blogspot blog ANU (absolutelynothingunified.blogspot.com - censored and uploaded to anu.nfshost.com) became ATC (attractedtochildren.org) as documented in the Wayback Machine.
  10. ↑ BLRibbon (i.e. BLueRibbon) in a Guardian comment thread
  11. ↑ Slashdot: Brian Ribbon (i.e. BLueRibbon) Feb 2007 Submission
  12. ↑ Science Blogs: Brian Ribbon Mar 2007
  13. ↑ Brian Ribbon as BLueRibbon - ANU - Feb and Mar 2007 use of "MAP"
  14. ↑ Brian Ribbon as BLueRibbon - ANU - May 2007 use of "MAP" juxtaposed against Antis
  15. ↑ BC Archives
  16. ↑ BLueRibbon 19yo
  17. ↑ D Lievre Student
  18. ↑ Jillium 17yo
  19. ↑ Dan Lievre - first known delineation of MAP from Pedophile - May 2007 see also BC
  20. ↑ Newgon use the term - Capture Jul 17, 2007. Likely to have been in splashpage "ethos" on founding date of 8 Jun 2007
  21. ↑ B4U-Act use the term in Jun 2007
  22. ↑ BLueRibbon - BC response to censorship
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