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==History== | ==History== | ||
In 1999, after already having retired twice from dissimilar fields, Riegel - as a member of the online [[BoyLove|boylover]] community, was recruited by a McGraw Hill textbook editor to submit an essay on the [[Rind et al|Rind controversy]]. This was accepted by the editor but withheld from publication by the management until 2005. In 2000, he published the first of his four paperback books.<ref>http://www./shfp/shfp.cgi</ref> In cooperation with several others on the now-defunct SafeHaven forum, Riegel developed a Philosophy of [[Responsible Boylove]],<ref>http://www.shfri.net/philos.html</ref> which is hosted on [[SafeHaven Foundation]].<ref>http://www.shfri.net/</ref> | |||
[[BoyLove Media Watch]] and Review was a | [[BoyLove Media Watch]] and Review was a little-used but influential journalistic watchdog site operated by Riegel and another volunteer. BLMW encouraged its readers to politely lobby journalists after they published articles on boys' sexual relationships with older males. As more and more news sites began to host comment sections, the project achieved genuine wide scale successes, after numerous readers were encouraged to make contributions. However, an onslaught of less sympathetic comments disturbed Riegel so much that he published disclaimers on BLMW (linking to it from articles on which he commented), and soon pulled the project altogether. Soon after, Riegel planned to publish a [[Journal of the Sexuality of Boys]], but this attracted little interest, and was pulled like its predecessor. | ||
Riegel's latest website is [[Peer Support Exchange]]<ref>http://www.shfri.net/peers/</ref>, which seeks to connect "Boy-Attracted Pedosexual Males" with one another. The site has been intensively promoted on the [[BoyChat]] bulletin board. | |||
==Controversy== | ==Controversy== | ||
Whilst the nature of Riegel's work is | Whilst the nature of Riegel's work is widely understood to be polemical and advocative in nature, Riegel himself has been uncomfortable with this perception. A small number of mainstream and academic articles by parties as disparate as [[Stephanie Dallam|Dallam]] and [[Richard Yuill|Yuill]], have described Riegel as an advocate of pederasty. Whilst he is happy to describe himself as an advocate, Riegel disputes the validity of terms such as [[pedophilia]] and [[pederasty]], and often perceives criticisms of his theories as ''ad hominem'' attacks. | ||
===Ideas=== | ===Ideas=== | ||
A small number of academics have criticised Riegel from a non-victimological perspective, most notably [[Richard Yuill]]. Queer and [[Michel Foucault|Foucaldian]] critical analysts such as Yuill describe Riegel's philosophy as overly rigid and dogmatic. They allege that Riegel is proposing as many "oughts" for men and boys, as there are currently "ought nots", that he has little-to-no understanding of [[queer theory]], and that he neglects the rights of women and girls. | |||
Riegel's comments on bulletin boards | In addition to this, Riegel's casual comments on bulletin boards are sometimes criticised as misogynistic and ageist. Some examples sent via a mailing list follow: | ||
:''"As I have pointed out before, as a woman you have no experience at being a boy, and consequently are incapable of empathizing with, or understanding, a boy's sexual interests. I would further note that as a woman you have no legitimate roll to play in discussing the issues of boyhood sexuality."'' ( | :''"As I have pointed out before, as a woman you have no experience at being a boy, and consequently are incapable of empathizing with, or understanding, a boy's sexual interests. I would further note that as a woman you have no legitimate roll to play in discussing the issues of boyhood sexuality."'' ([[BoyLover.net]]) | ||
:''"The notion of "youth rights" has been around for many decades, and in many forms, e.g., schools where children were supposed to make decisions about social order, subjects to be studied, etc. These schools and similar movements have all failed, and "youth rights" have never materialized, because in reality, children do not have the experience to make informed decisions on matters which are not intrinsic to them.'' | :''"The notion of "youth rights" has been around for many decades, and in many forms, e.g., schools where children were supposed to make decisions about social order, subjects to be studied, etc. These schools and similar movements have all failed, and "youth rights" have never materialized, because in reality, children do not have the experience to make informed decisions on matters which are not intrinsic to them.'' | ||
:''Sexual interest and desire, on the other hand, and especially boyhood sexuality, which tends to be more overt and active than that of girls, are, in fact, intrinsic qualities and behaviors. As such, they do not need to be encouraged or taught to boys, indeed, the principal thrust of our sexually misopedic society is to suppress these intrinsic qualities and behaviors."'' ( | :''Sexual interest and desire, on the other hand, and especially boyhood sexuality, which tends to be more overt and active than that of girls, are, in fact, intrinsic qualities and behaviors. As such, they do not need to be encouraged or taught to boys, indeed, the principal thrust of our sexually misopedic society is to suppress these intrinsic qualities and behaviors."'' ([[BoyLover.net]]) | ||
===Behaviour on discussion boards=== | ===Behaviour on discussion boards=== | ||
Riegel | Riegel frequently uses [[boylove]]-related internet message boards to advance his ideas. Here, he seeks to publicise his books and websites, using multiple nicknames such as ''Researcher'', ''Bridgebuilder'' and ''Passer By'' on [[BoyChat]]. Riegel's intensive strategy is often criticised, most notably when he uses one identity to support the other. Riegel often gets involved in heated discussions with established members of bulletin boards, usually as a result of self promotional activities. Opponents also allege that he has a tendency to insult opponents when his opinions and purported credentials are challenged. Despite this regular fallout, Riegel continues to frequent BL-related forums, presumably afforded a degree of protection by administrators who are aware of his history in the on-line and real-life community. | ||
===Seniority=== | ===Seniority=== | ||
Revision as of 20:53, 24 October 2009
David L. Riegel (b. 1931) is an independent writer and researcher on the topic of sexually expressed boy/older male relationships, and an advocate of what he describes as Responsible Boylove. Riegel is known for a small number of self-published books, journal articles and the mild controversy surrounding them.
History
In 1999, after already having retired twice from dissimilar fields, Riegel - as a member of the online boylover community, was recruited by a McGraw Hill textbook editor to submit an essay on the Rind controversy. This was accepted by the editor but withheld from publication by the management until 2005. In 2000, he published the first of his four paperback books.[1] In cooperation with several others on the now-defunct SafeHaven forum, Riegel developed a Philosophy of Responsible Boylove,[2] which is hosted on SafeHaven Foundation.[3]
BoyLove Media Watch and Review was a little-used but influential journalistic watchdog site operated by Riegel and another volunteer. BLMW encouraged its readers to politely lobby journalists after they published articles on boys' sexual relationships with older males. As more and more news sites began to host comment sections, the project achieved genuine wide scale successes, after numerous readers were encouraged to make contributions. However, an onslaught of less sympathetic comments disturbed Riegel so much that he published disclaimers on BLMW (linking to it from articles on which he commented), and soon pulled the project altogether. Soon after, Riegel planned to publish a Journal of the Sexuality of Boys, but this attracted little interest, and was pulled like its predecessor.
Riegel's latest website is Peer Support Exchange[4], which seeks to connect "Boy-Attracted Pedosexual Males" with one another. The site has been intensively promoted on the BoyChat bulletin board.
Controversy
Whilst the nature of Riegel's work is widely understood to be polemical and advocative in nature, Riegel himself has been uncomfortable with this perception. A small number of mainstream and academic articles by parties as disparate as Dallam and Yuill, have described Riegel as an advocate of pederasty. Whilst he is happy to describe himself as an advocate, Riegel disputes the validity of terms such as pedophilia and pederasty, and often perceives criticisms of his theories as ad hominem attacks.
Ideas
A small number of academics have criticised Riegel from a non-victimological perspective, most notably Richard Yuill. Queer and Foucaldian critical analysts such as Yuill describe Riegel's philosophy as overly rigid and dogmatic. They allege that Riegel is proposing as many "oughts" for men and boys, as there are currently "ought nots", that he has little-to-no understanding of queer theory, and that he neglects the rights of women and girls.
In addition to this, Riegel's casual comments on bulletin boards are sometimes criticised as misogynistic and ageist. Some examples sent via a mailing list follow:
- "As I have pointed out before, as a woman you have no experience at being a boy, and consequently are incapable of empathizing with, or understanding, a boy's sexual interests. I would further note that as a woman you have no legitimate roll to play in discussing the issues of boyhood sexuality." (BoyLover.net)
- "The notion of "youth rights" has been around for many decades, and in many forms, e.g., schools where children were supposed to make decisions about social order, subjects to be studied, etc. These schools and similar movements have all failed, and "youth rights" have never materialized, because in reality, children do not have the experience to make informed decisions on matters which are not intrinsic to them.
- Sexual interest and desire, on the other hand, and especially boyhood sexuality, which tends to be more overt and active than that of girls, are, in fact, intrinsic qualities and behaviors. As such, they do not need to be encouraged or taught to boys, indeed, the principal thrust of our sexually misopedic society is to suppress these intrinsic qualities and behaviors." (BoyLover.net)
Behaviour on discussion boards
Riegel frequently uses boylove-related internet message boards to advance his ideas. Here, he seeks to publicise his books and websites, using multiple nicknames such as Researcher, Bridgebuilder and Passer By on BoyChat. Riegel's intensive strategy is often criticised, most notably when he uses one identity to support the other. Riegel often gets involved in heated discussions with established members of bulletin boards, usually as a result of self promotional activities. Opponents also allege that he has a tendency to insult opponents when his opinions and purported credentials are challenged. Despite this regular fallout, Riegel continues to frequent BL-related forums, presumably afforded a degree of protection by administrators who are aware of his history in the on-line and real-life community.
Seniority
Among the more spurious attacks to have been directed at Riegel, are those relating to his age. By all standards, Riegel took up writing on his chosen topic after many decades of his life had elapsed. This perhaps helps demonstrate how hard it is for younger authors with fresh postgraduate degrees to write on related topics, when the risk remains that they may be discredited or even raided by police.
See also
- Bruce Rind - Writes on similar topics, more widely accepted.
- SafeHaven Foundation
- Peer Support Exchange
- Journal of the Sexuality of Boys
Publications
- Books here
- Other publications