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The term childlove or childlover (CL) was a popular community euphemism for pedophile in the 00s and continues to be used in two senses:

As a label for people attracted to both prepubescent boys and girls, and
As a generic term for someone who may be attracted to either prepubescent boys or girls.

Popularization in the mid-00s

Some had advocated the use of the childlover label to bring the wider boylover and girllover communities together, believing that the communities have much to gain by joining forces rather than arguing their separate causes each on their own. They also believed that there are many similarities in girllove and boylove relationships, especially the fact that both types of relationship involve an adult and a minor, often a child. Others objected to the childlove label, and its use has faded somewhat in the following decades.

Opposition

Some hebephiles rejected the term because teenagers are no longer "children". The term was seen as a divisive element within the communities, thus putting it at odds with its goal of unification. It was also observed that the term "love" has romantic connotations that might not describe all such attractions, and could be seen as an attempt at "sugarcoating pedophilia". Inclusive socio-legal terms such as Minor Attracted Person and Youthlover are now more popular than childlove, although the term persists as a more narrow identity for pedophiles.

Reactionary opposition

A small number of MAPs rejected the term because they believed that boylovers and girllovers had conflicting political interests. Some claimed the types of relationships with children differ; that while boylovers are interested in mentorship and friendship, girllovers are more oriented toward romance.

Gallery

Various symbolism has been tied to CL identity. These included an "AmaroSymbol", proposed by AP, and later submitted to Newgon's "Flag proposal 2009".

Rookiee's Childlove Media Activism Logo - incorporating GLogo and BLogo. Created for Pedologues.
CLogo - commonly used in the 00s, still used by some online and Dutch activists. Led to a 2023 controversy concerning its similarity to that of a German Transsexual organization^[1]
Child Logo - used occasionally as a GLogo/BLogo alternative in novel flag format.
3D Child Logo - created by Wardyn

'Childlover' in other languages

Quenya: hínandil
Sindarin: chínandil

Links

MAP Wiki - Some alternative symbols and designs.
Mirror (UK) scare story
CLogo Archive (Steve Diamond) - various adopted and unadopted symbolism.
CLogo Archive (official) - This was the CLogo project home, maintained by the original group of activists.
Childlove Movement (Wikipedia Archive) and Childlover - The term was once popular enough to merit Wikipedia articles.

References

↑ See, e.g. Reduxx, and Queer.de

[1] See, e.g. Reduxx, and Queer.de

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-__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' was a popular community euphemism for [[pedophile]] in the 00s and was/is used in two senses:
+{{Template:MAI}}__NOTOC__The term '''childlove''' or '''childlover''' '''(CL)''' was a popular community euphemism for [[Pedophilia|pedophile]] in the 00s and continues to be used in two senses:
-* As a label for people attracted to both boys and girls, and
+* As a label for people attracted to both prepubescent boys and girls, and
-* As a generic term for someone who may be attracted to either boys or girls.
+* As a generic term for someone who may be attracted to either prepubescent boys or girls.
-Some had advocated the use of the childlover label to bring the [[boylove]]r and [[girllove]]r communities together. They believed that the communities have much to gain by joining forces rather than arguing their separate causes each on their own. They also believed that there are many similarities in girllove and boylove relationships, especially the fact that both types of relationship involve an adult and a minor, often a child. Others objected to the childlove label, although to date, it has never become a common term of reference.
+==Popularization in the mid-00s==
-==Opposition==
+Some had advocated the use of the childlover label to bring the wider [[boylove]]r and [[girllove]]r communities together, believing that the communities have much to gain by joining forces rather than arguing their separate causes each on their own. They also believed that there are many similarities in girllove and boylove relationships, especially the fact that both types of relationship involve an adult and a minor, often a child. Others objected to the childlove label, and its use has faded somewhat in the following decades.
-Some [[Hebephilia|hebephiles]] (for example) rejected the term because teenagers are no longer "children." The term was seen as a divisive element within the communities, thus putting the term at odds with its goal of unification. It is also observed that the term "love" is in most cases inaccurate and is therefore likely to discredit the neologism. Inclusive socio-legal terms such as [[Minor Attracted Person|minor attracted person]] and Youthlover are now more popular than childlove.
+===Opposition===
-===Reactionary opposition===
+Some [[Hebephilia|hebephiles]] rejected the term because teenagers are no longer "[[child]]ren". The term was seen as a divisive element within the communities, thus putting it at odds with its goal of unification. It was also observed that the term "love" has romantic connotations that might not describe all such attractions, and could be seen as an attempt at "sugarcoating pedophilia". Inclusive socio-legal terms such as [[Minor Attracted Person]] and [[Youthlove]]r are now more popular than childlove, although the term persists as a more narrow identity for pedophiles.
-A small number of people rejected the term because they believe that boylovers and girllovers have conflicting political interests. Some claim the types of relationships with children differ; that while boylovers are interested in mentorship and friendship, girllovers are more oriented toward romance.
+====Reactionary opposition====
+A small number of MAPs rejected the term because they believed that boylovers and girllovers had conflicting political interests. Some claimed the types of relationships with children differ; that while boylovers are interested in mentorship and friendship, girllovers are more oriented toward romance.
 ==Gallery==
+Various symbolism has been tied to CL identity. These included an "AmaroSymbol", proposed by [[AP]], and later submitted to Newgon's "[[Flag proposal 2009]]".
 <gallery>
 File:Clomal.png|[[Rookiee]]'s Childlove Media Activism Logo - incorporating [[GLogo]] and [[BLogo]]. Created for [[Pedologues]].
-File:Clogo.png|CLogo - commonly used in the 00s.
+File:Clogo.png|CLogo - commonly used in the 00s, still used by some online and Dutch activists. Led to a 2023 controversy concerning its similarity to that of a German Transsexual organization<ref>See, e.g. [https://reduxx.info/germany-woman-warned-by-court-after-questioning-butterfly-symbol-used-by-trans-rights-group/ Reduxx], and [https://www.queer.de/detail.php?article_id=46874 Queer.de]</ref>
+File:CLLLL.png|Child Logo - used occasionally as a [[GLogo]]/[[BLogo]] alternative in novel flag format.
+File:3DCLogo.png| 3D Child Logo - created by Wardyn
 </gallery>
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 ==Links==
+*[https://archive.is/7WsmB MAP Wiki] - Some alternative symbols and designs.
 *[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/parents-warned-over-innocent-looking-7843597 Mirror (UK) scare story]
-*[https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-the-clogo-archive/ CLogo Archive]
+*[https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/page-the-clogo-archive/ CLogo Archive (Steve Diamond)] - various adopted and unadopted symbolism.
+*[https://archive.ph/U1I9X CLogo Archive (official)] - This was the CLogo project home, maintained by the original group of activists.
+*[https://web.archive.org/web/20051101165116/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlove_movement Childlove Movement (Wikipedia Archive)] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20051031040826/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childlover Childlover] - The term was once popular enough to merit Wikipedia articles.
 ==See also==
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 *[[Minor Attracted Person]]
 *[[Minor attracted neologisms]] - such as '''pedosexual'''.
+==References==
 [[Category:Official Encyclopedia]][[Category:Terminology]][[Category:Terminology: MAP]]
 [[Category: Countries and Cultures]][[Category:Countries and Cultures: Subcultures]]