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In some cases, Pediverse users have supported neo-religious concepts, anti-logic and scientific movements that have been used to attack MAPs. Some anti-cultist ideas used aggressively against MAPs in the 1980s (such as the inextricably linked Dissociative Identity Disorder and [[Wikipedia:Satanic panic|Satanic Ritual Abuse]]) have seen a revival among fiction-loving MAPs themselves on Fediverse. While these are far from uniformly supported, and we will not fully document them here, it is hoped better education can combat disinformation within the community. | In some cases, Pediverse users have supported neo-religious concepts, anti-logic and scientific movements that have been used to attack MAPs. Some anti-cultist ideas used aggressively against MAPs in the 1980s (such as the inextricably linked Dissociative Identity Disorder and [[Wikipedia:Satanic panic|Satanic Ritual Abuse]]) have seen a revival among fiction-loving MAPs themselves on Fediverse. While these are far from uniformly supported, and we will not fully document them here, it is hoped better education can combat disinformation within the community. | ||
One particular incident involved the '''childlove.space''' instance (of which some involved held Yesmap Matrix accounts, leading to false links with "Newgon"). While the content ''was'' legally problematic in some non-host jurisdictions, it is somewhat revealing that other Fediverse members chose to focus on the right-wing ideology of but 2 or 3 of it's 1000+ members. | One particular incident involved the '''childlove.space''' (cl.s) instance (of which some involved held Yesmap Matrix accounts, leading to false links with "Newgon"). While the content ''was'' legally problematic in some non-host jurisdictions, it is somewhat revealing that other Fediverse members chose to focus on the right-wing ideology of but 2 or 3 of it's 1000+ members. | ||
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File:98866c13794c367261cc0e0e64a4fde655f0befc7090ba628e6f179b281c2bcf.png|<small>Childlove.space is so replete with bigotry, it makes this usually woke user think they may be a Nazi themselves!</small> | File:98866c13794c367261cc0e0e64a4fde655f0befc7090ba628e6f179b281c2bcf.png|<small>Childlove.space is so replete with bigotry, it makes this usually woke user think they may be a Nazi themselves!</small> | ||
File:4f6fbd9c72822523908b9dc0679613837080d3ffc5b95b3519cac2f6e4540930.png|Cl.s: Nazis start off polite | File:4f6fbd9c72822523908b9dc0679613837080d3ffc5b95b3519cac2f6e4540930.png|re. Cl.s: Nazis start off polite | ||
File:Ddf90d61e989eb5e2f610b0fb92e4526bfc7bdeb556cb4df139fbc8b1c17680a.png|Cl.s: Nazis are the wedge! | File:Ddf90d61e989eb5e2f610b0fb92e4526bfc7bdeb556cb4df139fbc8b1c17680a.png|re. Cl.s: Nazis are the wedge! | ||
File:0271530207afda224509aa55a0c3402f01dfd1d72c44dd8c608e3625f3aea223.png|Cl.s: Circular argument | File:0271530207afda224509aa55a0c3402f01dfd1d72c44dd8c608e3625f3aea223.png|re. Cl.s: Circular argument | ||
File:Screenshot 2023-11-14 222440.png|Cl.s = "Newgon" | File:Screenshot 2023-11-14 222440.png|Cl.s = "Newgon" | ||
File:Screenshot 2023-11-14 223010.png|Twitter account re. previous | File:Screenshot 2023-11-14 223010.png|Twitter account re. previous |
Revision as of 15:00, 26 July 2024
- This article has been published and promoted after a supposed "MAP" website editor joined a Matrix chat room (PCMA) in violation of its conditions and subsequently posted screen-caps of multiple individuals without their consent, including those experiencing mental health problems and legal difficulties: map-wiki.com/index.php/Newgon. The material documented here concerns the individuals (Iris, Lecter) responsible for said article, and includes others for balance.
Our article documents screen-caps from anti-contact and some neutral-c pediverse spaces for the purpose of present and future character analysis. We have only constructed detailed profiles of individuals who have been accused of malicious behavior, intending to determine the validity, or otherwise of those claims. We do not publish any information that may be personally identifying.
For more detailed profiling of some parties covered in this article, see the claims/character analysis article.
Malicious or illegal behavior indicated
Early Pediverse has suffered from occasional malicious incidents. Owing to the wild-west style of federated social networks, where anybody can set up a server, this behavior has sometimes been tolerated and perpetuated by instance owners. This has led some to call for professionalization, co-operativization, or higher levels of accountability in instance leadership, or the outright redaction of particular servers by way of defederation or suspension of domain. Domain suspensions put paid to the well-known, 1000+ user servers, Lolison and Childlove.space, and seriously damaged Youjo.love.
Iris [NNIA]
Chronic, or Iris, a member of the NNIA fediverse instance and MAP Wiki editor, has a long history of doxing MAPs and consorting with pedophile hunters. A plural system and zoosadist MAP with "it" pronouns, their behavior has been tolerated by the instance admin, Lecter. This most likely owes to compromising information held by Iris, one of Lecter's former online dates.
Iris is known to have imitated a pro-c MAP activist to enter PCMA, so it could then circulate selected chat logs via MAP Wiki, a site on which Lecter, below, is the administrator. Various individuals then contacted Newgon's Strategic Lead, Jim Burton about these events, some of which exposed sensitive information about legal struggles and mental health problems.
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A screen-name used by Iris appears to have been instrumental in the doxxing of a MAP Fediverse user to an anti.
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The victim in the first cap identifies Iris as an informant to the alleged victim in the second. For more context, we have archived a thread linking the identities.[2]
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This is the subsequent attempt of Iris a year later, to blame the incident on "Newgon", i.e. Jim Burton[3]
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Agrees they engage in doxxing
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Iris shared screenshots of itself working on obtaining dox with Lecter (see 2021 document in below section on its "Lecter Accusations")
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Cont'd
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Cont'd
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Sharing of deceptively obtained chatlogs/handles/personal information on a clear web site
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Re. previous - Anti say: The difference between us and Wikisposure is we are the good guys! The claims here are also correct in that the person they targeted in the prior screen was a B4U-ACT user, not a Newgon Member.
At the time of writing, Iris has not attempted to question the veracity of these screens. This is important, as they have a track record of changing their story suddenly.
Lecter [NNIA Admin]
MAP Wiki editor Lecter is the primary NNIA Admin (also a plural system and zoosadist) transmasc he/him. Lecter been labelled by the person who got closest to him (Iris), as being a reactionary, pro-c American who was born a male, endorses pedophile-hunting and sexually predates on "children" (see later section).
Lecter's activism is technically illegal[4] in his sometimes assumed home of Russia by virtue of LGBT/Pedophile propaganda censorship and community policing of pedophiles. His supposed Russian transmasculine identity is now doxed, yet he appears not to fear for his personal safety. As a result, we concur with PCMA server members who suggested an alternative location.[5] Lecter, however, is clearly competent in Russian.[6] This section focuses on more broadly malicious or illegal acts Lecter has definitely partaken of, admitted to or been accused of, and Iris's accusations will be covered later.
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Aggressive linking of identities (including a person's real name) in response to a personal beef[7]
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Freak University limits Lecter, and Iris
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Reflection and somewhat dramatic take on 2023 events
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More feedback on drama
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Members of the community commented on the chilling effect
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Indifference towards the Pawoo drama involving Kay Faraday below
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Admitted to sending minors pornography
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Rules for thee, but not for me? [2018]
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Discussion of Iris/Lecter's mentality with one of Iris's victims
When we analyzed[7] the online activities of Lecter, we came to the conclusion that many of his problematic behaviors are downstream of, or dependent upon his relations with others, including Iris, who holds compromising information on him. Lecter is associated with the online paraphile community, known for its links to various fandoms, anti-fandoms, Zoosadist controversies and a range of truly disturbed individuals such as Zrcalo, all of whom are beyond the scope of this article. It is a sad fact that the sum effect of these online dramas has not been to improve the status of invalidated sexual minorities, and has instead emboldened harassers.
While we do not consider Lecter himself a deeply malicious individual, it is unfortunate our community has not been able to take action to reduce his influence.
The instance (NNIA) itself appears to be on top of illegal material, just like others are. Outliers such as users posting unredacted requests for illegal material had existed,[8] but did not seem common, nor religiously covered up, undermining the "grooming" accusations.[9]
Iris' claims Lecter is a born-male child predator and reactionary
A bizarre episode in 2021, saw Iris suddenly and viciously attack its closest ally, Lecter, releasing a document labeling him serial sexual predator in a frenzied act of political cannibalism. Iris, now close to adulthood, claims they hold compromising screenshots of their chats with Lecter. It is worth mentioning that such material would most likely be illegal, since Iris was a minor at the time. Their relationship with Lecter has "improved" since this file was shared.
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A window into Iris's motivations for being an anti
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Lecter was an authority; always right; I dared not question him
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Lecter supports predator hunting for fun (in private)
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Lecter is very open with pro-c's and has pro-c attitudes in private
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Lecter acts sexually in front of "children"
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Lecter's personal standards shift according to what he wants
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Lecter exchanged nudes with underage Iris; might actually be pedophile
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Iris's shaky theory as to the threat Lecter held over them
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Lecter supposedly watches everything Iris does...
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Iris idolized the recruiter, the Pied-Piper, Lecter
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Lecter as the "gateway" for pro-c's; fetish for hurting victims
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Sixteen year old antis, fandom-kid "victims"
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Vague claims made by a "sixteen year old child" in a link[10]
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Lecter's 14-year old "victim"
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Lecter said to have faked everything; is actually pale, stale, born a male. Iris nevertheless later revised its summation of Lecter as a fake Jew
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The later MAP Wiki edit, confirming that to Iris, Lecter is a kind of Schrödinger's Jew
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Claimed Lecter threatened to release it's (underage) nudes
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Declaration of mutually-assured-destruction against Lecter
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Coercive control ideation, imagines itself as "virginal, blameless child"
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"I hope you enjoy hell. I heard there’s a great many MAPs there"
The narrative presented here (if it is to be believed) strongly conflicts with Lecter's philosophical objections towards using deception and dishonest means to instigate controversies. See, for example, his "list of demands" made upon Newgon, which he repeated in 2024.
Confusingly, Newgon could not locate any denials or redactions of the claims made in the document from around the time, or more recently.
LoganTheACNOMAP [NNIA]
Another doxxing controversy involved Logan, a character closely associated with Iris, whose behavior was tolerated by Lecter.
We will publish screenshots when they become available.
No malicious or illegal behavior indicated
Expedient use of dishonesty
The below examples document evidence of admins and others using or supporting dishonest tactics for expedient reasons. Such actions may be seen as justifiable under some interpretations, and within their wider context.
Kay Faraday [FU Admin - former]
Kay Faraday, the former admin of the defunct freak.university (a highly successful neutral-c pediverse instance) has shared compromising information about and entertained the idea of doxing other MAPs. This was often in the context of humor and irony, but had caused concern within the community due to her position at the time.
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Pawoo
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Pawoo games
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Cont'd
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Pawoo
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Pawoo
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Pawoo
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??
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Self-report
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Dox MAPs strategically
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Cool idea! (re. the Anti who harassed the other person in the screen)
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Dramas
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Take on moderation decisions
At this point, she is not active in administrating Fediverse instances, and can probably be dismissed from any broader effort to hold Fediverse admins to account.
Jim Burton [Yesmap Matrix Admin - former]
Strategic lead of Newgon Organization. Yesmap Matrix Admin - former, Yesmap Fedi Admin - current.
Jim Burton (a pro-c) appeared to agree with the idea of using reporting mechanisms to attack the relationship of NNIA with its domain registrar, ideas that were discussed on the Yesmap Matrix server. This was in response to the above documented malicious conduct and apparent unwillingness of NNIA admin Lecter to leave post.
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Agrees with reporting NNIA to its registrar (following malicious/doxxing incidents)
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Compares malicious conduct to the threat of "antis"
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Argues for putting principles aside
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Troll response suggesting he is self-sacrificing
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Dismisses behavior of Lecter and Iris as "reptilian"
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Later incident re. "Nazi" allegation
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Clarification: The complaint about the content was not properly and fully reported. Violating material was removed when it was pointed out.
The following suspension of the ghetti domain above was pinned on Jim Burton by MAP Wiki, completely ignoring community consensus and the fact its suspension followed immediately after a 70,000-view YouTube video exposing pediverse.[11]
Violet Rose/Abby [FU, others]
Pro-c and plural system whose presence confused many as she seemed to exist only to sow division, supposedly "bullying" various individuals from different ends of the community. Made two accounts on the Yesmap (Newgon supported) Matrix server, appearing to "suck up" to key members, only to suddenly have unprovoked outbursts which resulted in bans.
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Neo-Nazi is interested in "Newgon"
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Thanks him
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Is going mad
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No need for logic!
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No caption required
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Toadying
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Interaction with Lecter
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NNIA Toxic, Newgon bigoted, all opponents of true liberation™
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"Newgone"
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"Give up on the clear web"
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Describes own "cyberbullying" campaign as a failure
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Never Violet...
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Violet's alt account and alters
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Another likely alt
Personality
This section includes less-extreme content intended to reflect broadly on the personalities of profiled individuals for whom malicious/and or illegal behavior is indicated.[12][13]
Jim Burton, i.e. "Newgon" (Jamal Ross, Mark Markison, Alfred Vincent, Analese Flangler, Peter Nordqvist, Andy Parkinson, Zara Degeneres, JohnHolt, Newgon Strategist and others) has also been included as juxtaposition against the "fascist" claims documented later on, and in his claims analysis.[14][15] Please note, he is "in character" in our screens, so an holistic reading is necessary.
Iris
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Very early (mid-teens) work: Arm Pedophiles
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Peak Anarchism was terrorism
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Notice similarity to Lecter's change in rhetoric towards the end of his Twitter phase
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View on death penalty for sex
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Believes in some other method of dealing with unsubstantiated "CSA" accusations
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"I hope you suffer. Violently"
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Nazi..?
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Disgust that pederasty is discussed neutrally
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Response to humorous/memetic language "the DNS has fallen"
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Victimhood can be defined retrospectively, but the lack of consent is express and "unconditional".[16]
Lecter
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Keep mapness deviant and degenerate
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Typical messaging
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Glorification of the normal a red-line
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Lecter on Twitter: Won't somebody think of the Fish Lovers!
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Anti-c values naturally permit the "equation of value" (a deliberately vague term) of hebephilia and the desire to torture infants
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Fan of modeling
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More models
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Dislikes Freud, Foucault
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"Validity" still a viable dynamic, even after exiling from Tumblr, etc on basis of invalidity
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Children harmed by regular clothes modeling
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PCMA server discussion on Lecter's approach
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Growing frustration
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Newgon account suggests formation of an Organization by NNIA/aligned individuals
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10 days later, Lecter is drafting proposals
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Interesting choice of RT... a PCMA member
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Reading a wiki can do strange things to people
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Chased out of Tumblr communities after Validity Policing
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Deviates from other anti-c's on this question
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Arousal in response to harming animals
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Historical Deviantart archives (right and bottom from 2018) seem to evidence like for animal cruelty, antireligious tendencies, anti-SJWism
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Earlier material (2018) nevertheless seemed to be more attuned to conventional MAP politics
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More
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More
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Dawkins-esque ~2018 phase corresponded with his "straight", "medicalist" MAP activism.[17]
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Lecter argues against "experimentation" faux-pas he later committed[17]
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Views on parental authority from above period
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Early Lecter was basically NOMAP
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Attractions vs "addictions": Binarizing tendencies in 2018
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Newgon-type arguments in 2018
One further point of interest regards Lecter's personality, is his tendency to assume bad faith, or deliberately misread content to engineer talking points.[18]
Jim Burton
These screens document some bread-and-butter 2022 tweets of pro-c Jim Burton (as Jamal Ross, Mark Markison, Alfred Vincent, Analese Flangler, Newgon),[14] rather than PCMA's organized psychological operations and ragebaits:
- Daily Express article on Jim Burton's activities
- Townhall mentions a Jim Burton account
- Canada free Press on the Burton sock
- Florida Jolt as above
It is likely others found his obsessive, day-to-day keyphrase-targeting, sealioning and corrections somewhat aggravating; especially the two above, who felt they should be doing, or had previously done visibility work on their own terms.
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Twitter view on deviance fethishism and MAPs.
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Pedos "the only queers left in town"
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Views on Americans and language
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Who is mad today might not be mad tomorrow
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Views on LGBT
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More material
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Paraphilia a useful wedge
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Trolls Iris as denying a minority's right to self-protection
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Trolls a political candidate
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Material
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Urges MAGA to consider America's history of cross-dressing boys in "pegging houses"
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Retweets a big part of his high-intensity "keyphrase activism"
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Ironic comments
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Irony
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Public Schools
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Commentary
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Occasionally run organizational accounts
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Treatment of Anastasia Deace
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Trolls Gays Against Groomers
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Antis were often told they "created the demand" (for MAP identification). Yvette Summers is not Jim Burton
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As per above
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Jim Burton is the pedophile troll who secured the suspension of Marina Camacho's influencer account
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Jim Burton's victims have accused him of being a pedophilic "Roblox Player" years after he stopped trolling
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Flamboyant, misogynistic Andy Parkinson's catchphrases were "HOT TAKE", "#StigmaSucks" and "Don't we all!"
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The account was highly triggering and the catalyst for a 2M+ impression pedophile ragebait
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Anglo-trolling against German anti-contact server users
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Repeated ironic references to liking "normies"
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Believes others misinterpret him as being offended
As per the section on "Newgon" below, and Lecter above, one stated aim of Jim Burton (since around 2022) has been to offend and agitate younger anti-contact MAPs in order to promote in them a political militancy.
Language/Thought-Policing
Lecter (a self-identified authoritarian) has an obsession with language-policing, sometimes supported by others, but never quite as vainly.[19] This has been realized in a series of bizarre threads. It is generally denied this is "thought policing", as the clique totally binarizes thoughts and behavior.
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Rule 2
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Lecter sets out "demands" ☭ for Newgon content alteration! These, he repeated in 2024 in the wake of this article's publication
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Lecter believing he has an inside line to police content on Newgon
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Alice Day is problematic
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Maxxing is alt-right language
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Master-race must never be mentioned
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Various problematics
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Language
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Privilege/humor
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Elliot Porter is a moderator at NNIA and admin of a MAP Google Site, mapresources.info
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A dissenting view on some of Elliot's machninations
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Despite pro-c being prohibited, opinions such as this occasionally slip through the cracks
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Thoughts that are permitted
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Poll in 2023 on a less-frenzied, but well-federated instance
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Opinion of "Aryan Boy Lover", one of the 2 or so "Nazi" members of the defunct childlove.space
Separatism and Defederation
Lecter has at times signified the need to keep MAP spaces "deviant" and "degenerate", opposing attempts to expand the movement by capitalizing upon the considerable numbers of hebephiles who do not count themselves as members, or consider adoption of the stigma too risky. As a paraphilic hebephile, opposing political involvement of non-paraphilic hebephiles has been a balancing act for Lecter; something he appears to be fearful of, but something that might potentially sustain the community, thus hard to fully denounce.
Often, the rationale given for defederation of individuals and entire instances, while related to alleged harassment, in fact follows a pattern of Validity Policing. Illegal content aside, civil disagreement (individual bans), or uncivil individuals (instance bans) are the most common causes for defederation, suggesting control of discourse is more of a concern than civility, for NNIA.
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Many such examples, see their server block list[20]
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Addresses cult
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A person who was also very anti-Newgon had views on the NNIA internal politics
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Lecter's aberrosexual separatism
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Philosophical approach to defederation
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Socially normative MAPs are right-wing
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Some history of how the community has been forced to tolerate pro-c's since ~2021. This has coincided with an inward-turning of NNIA
Former NNIA members often claim to have experienced cult-like conditions. At one point around 2022/23, one such story appeared to be coming out every 2 months or so, as users transitioned to the more neutral-c instances of Youjo.love and Freak.university. These claims have been investigated by Newgon and found to be false, both by analysis of alleged "cult"/"grooming" activities and probabilistic methods.
"Newgon" conspiracy/anti-religious/anti-cult loading
PCMA server members have witnessed a number of unusual messages appearing on Fediverse instances (initially NNIA) since late 2021/2022. Usually, such messages mobilize the familiar language of anti-religion/anti-cult/sectarianism to denounce "Newgon" as a monolithic entity that has committed grave historical injustices; harassment, standing by while others are harmed, appeasement, "legitimizing malign voices", etc. These accusations are always made without support, appear to emanate from just a few accounts and bear no relation to the experiences of server members, nor their generally positive reception among MAPs on social media. One Jewish server admin has compared the vague, illogical and contradictory nature of this emotionalism to that of Antisemitic canards and gaslighting. For example, Jim Burton, Newgon's Strategic Lead, has been accused by MAP Wiki (NNIA) editors of knowing a person (Lilitha, aka ZeebDemon) so well, he was able to send a harassing card to their address, but at the same time knowing them so poorly he would have no way of even knowing their pronouns.
Much of this appears to span from a reaction-formation/cognitive dissonance of MAPs who find the content of Newgon challenging or confronting in some way or another.
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"Traditional values" is something that would naturally appear absurd to members of a pro-c server. That fact seemed to escape this alt of Violet
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More unhinged
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The transphobia accusation against Jim Burton is absurd, since only contradictory evidence exists[21]
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Vague historical claims/accusations that have no grounding in reality. Everybody who disagrees is also one of them...
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Newgon must be a breeding ground for Fascism, along with BoyChat...
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Pluralism is a Nazi...
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Newgon is a Nazi Organization...
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Newgon from fundamentally the same creed as pedo "Twitter fash cliques"(??)
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Strangely discordant take on "Newgon", nobody even in PCMA recognizes
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What could they be doing "on a Newgon site"?
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When "Newgon" was victim of an ableism
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Source: Trust me, bro...
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Opinion of never-PCMA member on something never said in PCMA
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Has clearly never been inside a "Newgon" (PCMA) chat
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Said no person in Newgon, nor PCMA, ever, in the period known as "history"
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"Newgon" said to endorse "appeasement strategy" their editors spent years working to expose 🤡
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After suffering more "Nazi" hallucinations, Iris completely overlooks Mythebe, "out" anti-c who used NNIA and FST
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Strategist potentially responsible for suspension of the instance his own account was on
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History, according to Dave
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Newgon is cryptofascist
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I will not read the explanation I asked for...
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Dictionary definition of "fascism" = fascist apologia
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Anti-c's on Newgon
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Take on controversy over Newgon suggesting registrar report as solution to doxxing
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Newgon's Youjo account
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Actual Newgon opinion on moderating community
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More
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More
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Olive-branch offered to anti-c's
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Newgon's Yesmap was always open to anti-c's
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It was a running joke for the Newgon account to speculate on inventive ways the enormous NewgonWiki might be deemed "fascist". These were sometimes realized.
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Newgon was criticized for rational critique of Pedophilia OCD
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"POCD" dialogue
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They must be transphobic somehow; we'll make it make sense
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Newgon view on Fedi's inversion of reality
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Pro-contact "pedophiles" a right-wing phenomenon
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Newgon addresses attempt to defend Moira Greyland
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A reminder this is what they are describing as "Newgon's harassment"
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Newgon: Danger is not in accepting minorities as such, but how they are presented
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Newgon's plea for members of the community not to enter PCMA out of curiosity
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Continued: This was towards the end of Newgon's pledged support for the group
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Continued: Changeover of server was first requested after the Childlove.space incident (see below section)
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Example of antisemitic canards - Wikipedia
As can be seen, the accusations are often embarrassingly off-point, attempting to depict "Newgon Members" (PCMA members) as dogmatists of some sort or another. Only the dogmas so accused are not shared by the server members.
Hivemind
In some cases, Pediverse users have supported neo-religious concepts, anti-logic and scientific movements that have been used to attack MAPs. Some anti-cultist ideas used aggressively against MAPs in the 1980s (such as the inextricably linked Dissociative Identity Disorder and Satanic Ritual Abuse) have seen a revival among fiction-loving MAPs themselves on Fediverse. While these are far from uniformly supported, and we will not fully document them here, it is hoped better education can combat disinformation within the community.
One particular incident involved the childlove.space (cl.s) instance (of which some involved held Yesmap Matrix accounts, leading to false links with "Newgon"). While the content was legally problematic in some non-host jurisdictions, it is somewhat revealing that other Fediverse members chose to focus on the right-wing ideology of but 2 or 3 of it's 1000+ members.
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Ad populum
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Typical ragepost evincing fear of egodystonic ideation in absence of "validation"[22]
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Outburst
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NNIA users - 2/3 polled "religious"
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Denying Multiple Personality Disorder: Propaganda
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Change to "fingering and blowjobs", and you basically have pro-c
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Narrative. Broken.
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Criticism of hivemind
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Childlove.space is so replete with bigotry, it makes this usually woke user think they may be a Nazi themselves!
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re. Cl.s: Nazis start off polite
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re. Cl.s: Nazis are the wedge!
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re. Cl.s: Circular argument
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Cl.s = "Newgon"
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Twitter account re. previous
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Cl.s/"Newgon" confusion evident
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A bizarre addendum to the cl.s fiasco is that subsequent instances became even more tolerating towards NN+CGI content, strangely validating the "wedge" theory
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However, two "Nazis", or a few "Newgon"-labeled people were (and often still are) the real issue people had with with cl.s
NNIA users have also engaged other users in a series of struggle-sessions over "bad" language or "ideologies" - Katie Cruz, a MAP activist from the 00s who has concerns about the public image of MAPs has been attacked as "assimilationist" on numerous occasions, invariably followed by dog-piling, ritualized disapproval and spitting-contests.
Paraphilia-maxxing
The identities below are predominantly anti-contact. While they may or may not be adopted in good-faith, there is a potential here (with the wrong kind of attention) to harm and undermine invalidated groups such as MAPs by falsely portraying them as inherently "violent". Said tactic was used deliberately against the original FST platform in 2022 (fake pro child rape accounts) and had previously been mentioned by a founder of B4U-ACT, Russell Dick.[23]
While this section below may look like a "freak show" or "rogues gallery", it intends to document how hostile parties could seek to misrepresent our community and attack the most vulnerable among us, something that has already happened[11] and will happen more in the future. Identities redacted where appropriate.
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NNIA: Biastophiles not a hindrance; an asset
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Erotophono (murder lust) day...
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Literal pro-rape advocates... the more the merrier
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Either a dead friend or an animal...
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You don't have to follow the Zeta Principles, but...
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Literally half of psychiatry wants it's labels back, Necryssa
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Necro Rabbit makes an appearance
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Producer of the preceding art
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NNIA Mod Elliot on sadism
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Would you rape a child?
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Necro
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NNIA: "Pedosadism"/rape
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NNIA user: Pedosadism/biastophilia
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It should be noted for balance you might find one less extreme NNIA profile (such as this teen-averse Chicken Therian) for every biastophile, etc
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Label salad
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Sex with wolves, sex with fantasists, or sex within your own head?
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Apto (grooming) labels
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Lecter on Twitter... "I get a tingly feeling"
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Interesting Tumblr take from Lecter[24]
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AoA: 14-22. Occasionally, a counter-example slips through the cracks
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Newgon asks - do some of these labels glow?
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Opinion of Mr. Rapist Kidfucker Esq
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Suck my "BIASTOPEDO" dick
Of the above individuals, we are aware the identity "Dave" is known for being deliberately outrageous, and was ultimately censored by NNIA. He migrated to the Oddballs instance and others at a later date. For some more of his contributions, see the Oddballs analysis. Grooming-based identity was nevertheless defended full-throatedly by Lecter. Necryssa is a regular poster on NNIA, who we believe not to be an alt account. The origin of the others is unknown, many may be sock puppets, owing to the large number of plural systems on the instance.
"Pedosadists" are a complex topic, further complicated by the fact the anglicized version of the label has been used in campaigning by Anonymous. Between 2-10% of the wider population (50% using broader criteria) are assumed to be sadistic. Jim Burton has attested (in 2024) that he knows of a small number of MAPs who are also sadistic, but their views on self-identifying with terms such as "p(a)edosadist" vary widely.[25]
One argument in support of projecting extreme identities such as those described above, is that others unaware of the relatively low levels of psychopathy among MAPs, may be more inclined to believe they are hiding nothing. Extreme paraphilic identity might lend support to the idea that even extreme and violent impulses can be controlled, but could do harm by associating them with attraction to minors.[26]
Pride flags
Numerous self-identification labels and flags have appeared via NNIA and its associated Wikis, promoting identities that combine minor attraction with violent paraphilia, reifying states of mind we might identify in a dark history of childrens' nursery rhymes and fairy tales.[27]
While the combinations might seem suspicious or extreme in some way, readers soon become desensitized to the sheer range of identities on offer.[28] In 2023, even a grooming flag featuring hard candy became available![29][30] It should be noted that all such identities are assumed to be anti-contact, so the extremity can ultimately be unlimited.
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Pedosadism by Jinx, uploaded by Pappy
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Pedophilic Necro Pride Flags uploaded by Pappy
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Two of Lecter's more famous contributions to pride flag discourse, Zoosadism and Grooming
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Biastophilic MAP (rape of minors) and Biastophilic Nepio (rape of infants) flags uploaded by Pappy
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Nazi Kink concepts by Death + Vinnie, uploaded by Pappy
There have been attempts from outside of the paraphile community to coin pride-flags based on designs similar to the MAP Flag. See "rapesexual", for example.[31] The NNIA-associated Flag Wiki intersects biastophilia (attraction to rape) with attraction to minors in roughly half of the graphics mentioning biastophilia.[32]
The solution appears to be more realistic and responsible handling of intersectional identities, rather than exclusion of individuals from the community. The debate will doubtless intensify as the pediverse attracts more "outside attention".
Notes
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- ↑ NNIA post by Lilitha"So... I got a birthday card today from an "Iris", today. But, it's not my birthday. Not even close. The card they sent was a screamer card that can't be shut off. And trying to access the battery compartment reveals it's full of glitter as a counter-tampering measure. In the card they call me a "paramisic bastard"... Gee. I wonder who THAT could be... 😒"
- ↑ Eientei.org's cache of a thread explaining Iris's involvement in doxxing, see also their live version, and fv.reveca.es
- ↑ Archive of long post in which Iris attempted to blame a malicious incident they are known for on "Newgon"
- ↑ The Hill: Russia’s parliament passes law banning ‘gay’ and ‘pedophilia’ propaganda
- ↑ Occupational change of location indicated (private information).
- ↑ Has written above-machine quality translations from English to Russian, for example
- ↑ 7.0 7.1 See these threads as an example of the type of doxxing/doxxing-enablement disputes Lecter gets involved in with others, and various vague accusations made against him:[1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15].
- ↑ e.g. Hyvas
- ↑ The Public Insight piece on NNIA
- ↑ I identify as a problem
- ↑ 11.0 11.1 FS Tube: Deadwing Dork's Video in 2024 re. Pediverse and the Ezra Dox - startpoint of the Oddballs.online instance. Original was here, but removed for guideline violation. Password protected for known researchers only. Narrative in claims analysis. See also, follow-up video (no password required).
- ↑ Lecter's early social media archives reveal a person more concerned with the real-life situation of MAPs, and less in thrall of what he calls "aberrosexual" ideology and identity politics. See Twitter [16], [17], [18], [19], [20], [21]. Also ran Twitter accounts Blood_seeds, Baron_Deer, go_to_tumblr, FemmeDiscordant.
- ↑ It is possible Lecter and Iris bonded over their hatred of animals, underpinning what was to become their open celebration of "Zoosadism Pride" on NNIA. In 2018, Lecter was already posting memes describing his indifference to animal cruelty on Deviantart, as akhnaton-ii. On 8 September 2023, 03:27 Lecter renamed user Chronic to Iris on MAP Wiki. For more profiling of Iris, see its curiouscat, NNIA and Twitter archives
- ↑ 14.0 14.1 Jamal Ross Archive 1 and Jamal Ross Archive 2. For Web Archive, [22], [23], [24], [25]. Unfortunately the earlier accounts (going back to Aug 2021) are not available in archive form, but they involved similar agitation against misinterpretation of the term "MAP" and misconceptions about the MAP Flag, MAP History, etc. the following archives contain a few examples of Jim's interactions (as Jamal) with Lecter and his adjacents (seen as @go_to_tumblr) and others: [26], [27], [28], [29], [30], [31], [32], [33]. This type of agitation appears to have led to a campaign to present "Newgon" as "fascist-adjacent" via the "MAP Wiki" article.
- ↑ Archive of Jim's Youjo account
- ↑ Iris on Frans Gieles
- ↑ 17.0 17.1 On The Anti-c Youth Liberationist. Lecter argues that unlike other ageist statutes, AoC Laws can be maintained as their job is to regulate "older persons’ actions that target the youth". His earlier (probably accurate, or understated) contention that 1/3rd of molesters are children is ignored, with an appeal for exceptions to the rule.
- ↑ Example of bad-faith assumption and response
- ↑ Extra-ordinary thread in which an Iris alt deep-critiques a Newgon meme that intended to redeploy alt-right language against... antis and the alt-right. See also critique.
- ↑ NNIA: About
- ↑ JohnHolt (Jim Burton): I agree in so far as [...] - BoyChat post in which Jim Burton identifies attacks on Transgender identity, see also Transgender and Queer Theory, Moral Capture, his identification of transphobic attacks by a civil society organization.
- ↑ Such is the inherent risk of early Fediverse communities, since they mix people seeking safe spaces with edgelords and ask them to make collective decisions to platform or deplatform each other.
- ↑ AFP interview with R Dick
- ↑ Comrade Lecter on Tumblr
- ↑ Jim Burton, 18 Jul 2024: "I am reliably informed one self-identified pedosadist has been accepted as moderator at a private MAP Forum; it appears they are not always highly expressive about this aspect of their personality, and do not act on it. Another sadistic MAP I am aware of agrees that there is really no point using terminology such as "pedosadist", as it will only inflame existing stereotypes. The most vocal MAPs on this topic, I actually doubt are pedo or nepio-sadists themselves, and are using the idea of "pedo/nepiosadist pride" as a crutch for their edgy political agendas, with little thought given to the potential fallout."
- ↑ Kidfucker's Charter
- ↑ Burning, Starving and Maiming: Nursery Rhymes Without Happily Ever Afters, 10 Disturbing Nursery Rhyme Origin Stories to Celebrate Nursery Rhyme Week
- ↑ Zoosadist Pride Flag. Of note is the fact that the wiki has as many flags for Zoosadists as it does Zoosexuals
- ↑ Various flags: Aptomap, Apto, Necro MAP, Necropedozoo
- ↑ Flags for Over 1000 paraphilias, designed by NNIA members, including the "apto" (grooming) flags featuring hard candy.
- ↑ Rapesexual Chan Flag
- ↑ Search for "biasto" on Paraphilia Flags Wiki