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__NOTOC__{{MAI}}The '''minor attracted community''' is a term that can be applied to a loose affiliation of individuals - mainly [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]] and supporters/allies. Presently, the community exists almost exclusively online, however, real-life friendships are known to exist, as do some membership organizations and support groups. Some organizations (mainly homosexual pedophiles and pederasts) had limited success in the period spanning from the mid-70s to the early 90s - maintaining contact by way of mailing lists and taking part in [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|Gay Pride events/larger LGBT organizations]].
__NOTOC__{{MAI}}The '''minor attracted community''' is a term that can be applied to a loose affiliation of individuals - mainly [[Minor Attracted Person|MAPs]] and supporters/allies. Presently, the community exists almost exclusively online, however, real-life friendships are known to exist, as do some membership organizations and support groups. Some organizations (mainly homosexual pedophiles and pederasts) had limited success in the period spanning from the mid-70s to the early 90s - maintaining contact by way of mailing lists and taking part in [[Historical examples of LGBT-MAP unity|Gay Pride events/larger LGBT organizations]].


The websites the community currently uses are generally small webforums and social networks, plus a few peer groups on larger platforms. The last few years has seen considerable diversification, for example - the use of decentralized social networking. The more established of these online communities tend to go under banners such as [[boylove]] and [[girllove]], with others remaining generic. In some cases, relationships forged through these websites have led to real-life contacts, and even larger scale meetings and events (see [[IBLD]] or [[Ipce]], attracting 100+ and around 10 attendees respectively), although such contact has arguably declined over the last two decades. Because of the [[:Category:Hysteria|intense persecution]] of MAPs and the greater anonymity offered by the Internet, many of them feel more comfortable finding friends and confidants online than in real life. As such, the online community has grown slowly since around 1997, with sites such as [[BoyChat]] establishing themselves as important meeting places.
The websites the community currently uses are generally small webforums and social networks, plus a few peer groups on larger platforms. The last few years has seen considerable diversification, for example - the use of decentralized social networking. The more established of these online communities tend to go under banners such as [[boylove]] and [[girllove]], with others remaining generic. In some cases, relationships forged through these websites have led to real-life contacts, and even larger scale meetings and events (see [[IBLD]] or [[Ipce]], attracting 100+ and around 10 attendees respectively), although such contact has arguably declined over the last two decades. Because of the [[:Category:Hysteria|widespread oppression]] of MAPs and the greater anonymity offered by the Internet, many of them feel more comfortable finding friends and confidants online than in real life. As such, the online community has grown slowly since around 1997, with sites such as [[BoyChat]] establishing themselves as important meeting places.


==Internet==
==Internet==


Most of the MAP Community's activities takes place online.
Most of the MAP Community's activities take place online.


===Message boards===
===Message boards===


:''e.g. [https://boylinks.net/discussion_boards.html BoyLinks].''
:''Listed, e.g. [https://boylinks.net/discussion_boards.html on BoyLinks]''


One of the most popular ways to participate in this online community is through message boards (also known as Bulletin Board System-style, or BBS-style, forums). These are websites (for example, '''[[BoyChat]]''', '''GirlChat''', '''Pedofilie''' (CZ)<ref>https://pedofilie-info.cz/</ref> and '''Visions of Alice''') in which posters write messages to one another. The messages remain available for long periods of time while other posters read and respond to them. These old-fashioned communities tend to have older users, more freedom of speech, less attention to rules of engagement and the users are often [[pro-c]] in some way. '''[[Virtuous Pedophiles|Virped]]''' is one exception to that rule.<ref>https://support.virped.org/forums/</ref>, and '''[[B4U-Act]]''' is largely not engaged on the subject of contact.<ref>https://www.b4uact.org/attracted-to-minors/peer-support/</ref>
One of the most popular ways to participate in this online community is through message boards (also known as Bulletin Board System-style, or BBS-style, forums). These are websites (for example, [[Mu]], '''[[BoyChat]]''', BLOL,<ref>https://boylandonline.com/</ref> '''[[GirlChat]]''', '''girlloverforum.net''' (DE), '''Pedofilie''' (CZ),<ref>https://pedofilie-info.cz/</ref> '''Pedo24''' (RU)<ref>[https://pedo24.com/ru/ Pedo24 Russian Virped type site]</ref> and '''[[Visions of Alice]]''') in which posters write messages to one another. The messages remain available for long periods of time while other posters read and respond to them. These old-fashioned communities tend to have older users, more freedom of speech, less attention to rules of engagement and the users are often [[pro-c]] in some way. '''[[Virtuous Pedophiles|Virped]]''' is one exception to that rule.<ref>https://support.virped.org/forums/</ref>, and '''[[B4U-ACT]]''' is largely not engaged on the subject of contact.<ref>https://www.b4uact.org/attracted-to-minors/peer-support/</ref>


====Imageboards====
===Imageboards===


Some communities are based around imageboards such as '''AllTheFallen''' (content may vary in legality according to jurisdiction).
A primarily lolicon-focused forum with numerous self-identifying MAP members is '''AllTheFallen''', content may vary in legality according to jurisdiction.


===Fediverse===
===Fediverse===


Decentralized social platforms such as '''Mastodon and Pleroma''' have seen very impressive uptake among MAPs, who communicate on shared servers.<ref>https://fediverse.party/</ref> Participants in decentralized networking may themselves offer up server space. These are noncommercial spaces for shared interests, and often deviate from the mainstream, so while uptake is high, visibility for activists might be poorer in this instance. Activism can still take place, although this would be more in the mold of peer support or community organizing. Popular instances are '''[https://freak.university/about/more freak.university]''' (neutral-c) and '''[https://nnia.space/about/ NNIA]''' (anti-c predominates).
Decentralized social platforms such as '''Mastodon and Pleroma''' have seen very impressive uptake [[Pediverse|among MAPs]], who communicate on shared servers.<ref>https://fediverse.party/</ref> Participants in decentralized networking may themselves offer up server space. These are noncommercial spaces for shared interests, and often deviate from the mainstream, so while uptake is high, visibility for activists might be poorer in this instance. Activism can still take place, although this would be more in the mold of peer support or community organizing. Popular instances are '''[https://nnia.space/about/ NNIA]''', (anti-c predominates), '''lolison''', '''baraag.net''' and '''pawoo.net'''. The instance on which your account is hosted can block other instances, but otherwise, you can follow accounts on other instances.


Should our efforts expand within the Fediverse, the best analog for this might be the MAP infiltration of Secular-Rationalist bulletin boards that took place in the mid-late 00s. MAPs would be targeting a group that is already predisposed to realigning their way of thinking.
Should our efforts expand within the Fediverse, the best analog for this might be the MAP infiltration of Secular-Rationalist bulletin boards that took place in the mid-late 00s. MAPs would be targeting a group that is already predisposed to realigning their way of thinking.
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===Modern Mainstream===
===Modern Mainstream===


Small communities, including some activism have been seen on '''Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit''' (/r/pedofriends now banned), and '''Quora''' (known to be very low censorship). Members find and follow those who share their interests. On some occasions, activists have supported one another in visibility and awareness raising efforts, although some censorship is carried out. '''Gab''' is said to have carried out more pervasive censorship of MAPs/allies, despite its supposed reputation for freedom of speech.
Small communities, including some activism have been seen on '''[[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]], Tumblr,<ref name="ProstasiaTumblr">[https://prostasia.org/blog/tumblr-is-censoring-prevention-messages-and-amplifying-harmful-ones/ Tumblr is censoring prevention messages and amplifying harmful ones: Prostasia]</ref> Deviantart<ref>Deviantart profiles: [https://web.archive.org/web/20190413201345/https://www.deviantart.com/aaron-map-f-gtron 1], [https://web.archive.org/web/20190413192911/https://www.deviantart.com/littlebluehater 2], [https://web.archive.org/web/20190413195132/https://www.deviantart.com/nbmapyagami 3]</ref> and Reddit''' (/r/pedofriends now banned<ref>[https://www.vocativ.com/386165/reddit-pedofriends-pedophile-shut-down/index.html Vocativ story about Reddit's pedofriends shutdown], and [https://web.archive.org/web/20160501000000*/reddit.com/r/pedofriends see archives] for more examples of pedofriends)</ref>) and '''Quora''' (known to be very low censorship). Members find and follow those who share their interests. On some occasions, activists have supported one another in visibility and awareness raising efforts, although some censorship is carried out. '''Gab''' is said to have carried out more pervasive censorship of MAPs/allies, despite its supposed reputation for freedom of speech. Reports concerning '''Patreon''' are mixed, but sometimes encouraging.<ref>[https://reduxx.info/patreon-fires-security-staff-amid-allegations-of-protecting-maps/ Reduxx - Patreon controversy]</ref><ref>[https://blog.patreon.com/false-allegations-on-social-media Patreon response to allegations]</ref> '''Instagram''' is often touted as a casual hangout for [[girllove]]rs, although this appears to go on outside any pretence that the platform is a true haven for MAPs.<ref>From [https://heretictoc.com/2023/01/21/c4s-andy-show-nailed-it-or-failed-it/#comment-27291 HTOC]: <small>"The parents running these “Mom Monitored” accounts are obviously aware that a sizable portion of their audience includes adults with a sexual interest in their daughters. While explicit messages are blocked and reported, it is hardly a mystery what a cluster of flame emojis is getting at. For MAPs who are regularly despised and verbally assaulted on other major social media platforms, Instagram is a breath of fresh air. It’s like the inverse of Reddit (post- r/jailbait era of course) and Youtube. Certainly there are haters and vigilantes out to out, but they are often ratioed and drowned out in a sea of positivity and compliments put forth by girl lovers. Plus one can’t help but wonder what these white knights are doing on these profiles *themselves*, ya know?"</small></ref><ref>[https://r.zjlei.com/index.php/2023/06/07/instagram-connects-vast-pedophile-network/ Unpaywalled WSJ article on Instagram MAPs]</ref> Inspired the #Pedogram hashtag.


====Twitter====
====X (Twitter)====


Twitter has had self-identifying MAP accounts for some time, and a [[NOMAP]] contingent ever since said movement was founded.<ref>[https://prostasia.org/blog/twitters-pedo-populism-setback-prevention/ Prostasia: Twitter’s pedo-populism is a setback for prevention]</ref><ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20210730014944/https://www.scribd.com/document/370691548/Twitter Signed letter to Twitter from Destigmatizer Scholars]</ref> For demographic reasons, [[Validity Policing|validity policing]] and harassment takes place, but this has not stopped groups of MAPs forming communities; often with private accounts. A small, select group of MAP activists are also well-seasoned social media debaters, searching the site for threads to engage with. Long-time self-identifying [[boylove]]r, [[Steve Diamond]] wrote the following in 2021:
:''See also: [[MAP visibility on Twitter]].''


:''"I am a MAP, and a human rights advocate. I've had a Twitter account for over ten years, in good standing. I observed and followed Twitter's TOS, rules and policies with great care. This account was very active for at least six years, where I was interacting with a wide range of people on a wide range of subjects. I actually had over 1,500 followers. As to MAP activities, I simply left myself open to discussing them with those who willingly approached me. I helped share and exchange studies/research and news articles relevant to MAP issues. And I did a lot of good nature participation in a hashtag called "#mappositivity", posting things so mild, humorous and uplifting, nobody in their right mind would actually be able to take issue with it.''
'''[[Wikipedia:Twitter|Twitter]].com''', founded in 2006, has seen above-average levels of '''[[Minor Attracted Person|MAP]] visibility''' for most of its lifetime. In some instances, this has been because of controversies surrounding MAP communities, researchers, and MAP sympathizers present on [[MAP visibility on Twitter|Twitter]].com. In others, MAPs or [["Pedophile Activism" hoaxes|trolls]] have carried out sometimes elaborate hoaxes in order to gain publicity. This is perhaps surprising, given that early on in its development, Twitter even hired a former [[Perverted Justice]] volunteer as "Trust and Safety" personnel.<ref>[https://www.gawker.com/5789577/how-the-weirdos-behind-to-catch-a-predator-blew-12-million Gawker: How the Weirdos Behind 'To Catch a Predator' Blew $1.2 Million] and [https://ourlovefrontier.wordpress.com/2016/07/29/evil-unveiled-the-blogspot-year/ Evil-Unveiled: The BlogSpot Year…]</ref> Ultimately, Twitter.com is seen as the "purest social" in concept (an open town-square for political debate), and perhaps this is what has most attracted MAPs to the medium. Over this period, MAPs and [[MAP Movement|MAP activists]] have faced varying levels of [[censorship]] from Twitter moderation, but continue to create new accounts.


:''Enter the "Pride and Joy Only Belongs to Us" LGBTQ Twitter Mafia, and waves of nasty abusive, threatening Holier That Thous, who maliciously flooded MAP hashtags like #mappositivity with graphic gore (pictures and videos of people being murdered), violent threats, dehumanization of MAPs, and endless calls for banning MAPs from Twitter (even in the face of the fact, that we were in violation of no Twitter rules or policies). This went on for about a year, at the hands of these lunatics. An endless onslaught of abusive provocation and threats. I took up reporting them, and even had a thread on Twitter where I was posting screen captures of the responses from Twitter...They used to thank me, over and over, for "helping to keep Twitter safe"...and I helped take down several hundred accounts of these nasty people.
===Video Sharing===


:''In addition, despite what some of these people may tell you today, there were a number of us MAPs (including myself), who were also reporting and trying to get out of our hashtags anyone who was seemingly offering anything illegal (MAP hashtags were never for this purpose). Again, Twitter used to thank me for being this sort of guardian on it's platform."''<ref>[https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/15hg Steve Diamond on FST]</ref>
'''YouTube''' carries out a lot of censorship, but appears to have large numbers of receptive commenters for most alternative points of view. The chat threads in livestreams are sometimes used by MAPs and adjacent activists. Occasional videos from "normies" have crossed the line and led to controversies and comment thread blow-ups.  


Various [[NOMAP]]S were banned in the 10s, but overall MAP membership saw a boom in the time leading up to the [[MAP Flag]] publicity of '18 and '19. Many were banned, and in early 2020, ''"promoting or normalizing sexual attraction to minors as a form of identity or sexual orientation"''  was defined as counter to the T+C. Small groups of determined sock puppeteers persist, and tend to be banned after a number of reports mount up. In 2021, provocative MAP tweets by well-known MAPs and allies were known to have attracted over 20 likes and have been retweeted over 1/2000 times (mainly by hostile actors). On one occasion, when a network member checked his analytics, a tweet gained over 1 million impressions and 40,000 engagements after it was retweeted by culture war icon, Jordan Peterson. It is important to mention, that Twitter operates a double standard, not only in relation to those who habitually harass MAPs, Zoophiles, etc, but by favoring "other" sexual minorities such as [[Lolicon]]s. One poplular Lolicon account @CunnyDatabase has, as of 2021, repeatedly posted obscure memes attempting to distance itself from MAPs, while baselessly accusing other members of trading in pornography in a prolonged campaign of libel.
One YT alternative is '''[[FreeSpeechTube]]''', founded (but no-longer managed) by [[Norbert de Jonge]], a well known Dutch MAP and civil liberties activist. It has recently been re-created as a PeerTube (federated) site.


Twitter had also seen fake MAP publicity efforts in the 10s, such as the ludicrous [["Pedophile Activism" hoaxes|''Clovergender'' and ''Heart Progress'']], which display all the hallmarks of right-wing attempts to smear liberals and the LGBT community.
===Real-time chat===
 
====Twitter gallery====
 
Most activity on Twitter is non-political, involving friendly contact between MAPs and their allies. There are also large numbers of accounts limited to the pursuit of MAP sexual fiction and fantasies. Below are some of the more provocative, political efforts:
 
<gallery>
File:Peterson.png|Peterson's "last frontier" <small>(the tweet itself was said to be at 1M impressions by its writer)</small>
File:Ratio3.png|"Bigger balls" bait
File:Ratiooooo.png|Jamal Ross "suck it up" tweet
File:Parkinsonadvice.png|Andy Parkinson asks for advice
File:Ultimatum.png|Hysterical "ultimatum" LGBT bait from Andy Parkinson
File:Posibiecross.png|Jamal Ross cap-tweeted by Jack Posobiec. This series even made the news.<ref>[https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/top-qc-slams-online-accounts-26758464 Scottish Daily Express] and [https://web.archive.org/web/20220422012407/https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/top-qc-slams-online-accounts-26758464 Backup].</ref>
</gallery>


===Video Sharing===
Another common way of interacting with the online community is via real-time chat services such as that offered by websites such as '''LifeLine''', linked to from [[BoyChat]], and '''MSC''' - which is supported financially by [[Prostasia Foundation]]. '''Open MAP''' is another alternative<ref>[https://www.mapcommunity.org/ Open MAP Community]</ref>, and Pedofilie (NL).<ref>[https://www.pedofilie.nl/ Pedofilie (NL)]</ref> These communities have the advantage of permitting instant response and reaction to one's communications, with the disadvantage of being fleetingly ephemeral with regards to their content. Many MAPs host their own servers, on which chat clients can be uploaded.


'''YouTube''' carries out a lot of censorship, but appears to have large numbers of receptive commenters for most alternative points of view. Occasional videos from "normies" have crossed the line and led to controversies and comment thread blow-ups. One YT alternative is '''FreeSpeechTube''', run by [[Norbert de Jonge]], a well known Dutch MAP and civil liberties activist.
'''Discord''' is a popular (''proprietary'') platform that allows for groups and direct chats, but since they run their own servers, censorious moderators will always take action if MAPs are identified on their platform. It should also not be relied on for any serious privacy.


===Real-time chat===
'''Matrix''' is a platform that offers some privacy protections - and there are many MAP groups on this platform.
 
Another common way of interacting with the online community is via real-time chat services such as that offered by websites such as '''LifeLine''', linked to from [[BoyChat]], and '''MSC''' - which is supported financially by [[Prostasia Foundation]]. '''Open MAP''' is another alternative.<ref>https://www.mapcommunity.org/</ref> These communities have the advantage of permitting instant response and reaction to one's communications, with the disadvantage of being fleetingly ephemeral with regards to their content. Many MAPs host their own servers, on which chat clients can be uploaded.
 
'''Discord''' is technically, an excellent platform that allows for some privacy, but since they run their own servers, censorious moderators will always take action if MAPs are identified on their platform.


IRC, along with Usenet, was the core of the online [[boylove]] community before the rise in popularity of BL message boards.
IRC, along with Usenet, was the core of the online [[boylove]] community before the rise in popularity of BL message boards.
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Blogging used to be a considerable part of the minor attracted community, but a [[Blogger censorship|purge took place in the summer of 2007]] after blogging on free platforms was widely adopted. A few individuals then banded together to form larger groups (such as ours), buying their own bandwidth and starting afresh. Others retreated to Bulletin boards. Some high-profile MAPs such as [[Thomas O'Carroll]] continue the blogging tradition.
Blogging used to be a considerable part of the minor attracted community, but a [[Blogger censorship|purge took place in the summer of 2007]] after blogging on free platforms was widely adopted. A few individuals then banded together to form larger groups (such as ours), buying their own bandwidth and starting afresh. Others retreated to Bulletin boards. Some high-profile MAPs such as [[Thomas O'Carroll]] continue the blogging tradition.
Finding blog hosting doesn't appear to be a struggle for MAPs at this time. Wordpress is an option, but has censored even anti-c members of our community. [[Open MAP Community|OMC]]] offers the service.


===Phone Messenger apps===
===Phone Messenger apps===


Private messenger apps are also used. These messaging apps may have varying levels of decentralization and encryption, meaning that adoption has not been focused on any one platform known at the time of writing. ''Telegram'' - a multi-device app is one such example, and has been used by MAPs, despite concerns surrounding its security.
Private messenger apps are also used. These messaging apps may have varying levels of decentralization and encryption, meaning that adoption has not been focused on any one platform known at the time of writing. '''Telegram''' - a multi-device app is one such example, and has been used by MAPs, despite concerns surrounding its security. '''Wickr''' (from Amazon) is also said to be very popular among MAPs who engage in illicit activity ("taboo" and "perv" keyphrases) - although the extent to which this is media hype is unknown. NBC carried out an "investigation" into Wickr in 2022.<ref>[https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/wickr-amazon-aws-child-messaging-app-sex-abuse-problem-rcna20674 NBC "Investigates" Wickr and MAPs]</ref>


===Email services===  
===Email services===  


Again, these have varying levels of [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Computer_security security] and may or may not be used with Tor or VPNs.
Again, these have varying levels of [https://www.boywiki.org/en/Computer_security security] and may or may not be used with Tor or VPNs. Tutanota and Protonmail are popular free email solutions among MAPs, as is DNMX.org.


===Usenet===
===Usenet===
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===Dark Web===
===Dark Web===


The encrypted [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_web Dark Web] is used for trading borderline or illegal material. Encryption can give a false sense of security, with many loopholes available for the surveillance of inexperienced users - including bitcoin transactions. Law enforcement agencies have been known to set up "commercial" porn trading platforms as honey traps.
The encrypted [[Wikipedia:Dark web|Dark Web]] is used for trading borderline or [[Child Pornography|illegal material]], and is thus seen as necessarily separate from the visible/clear web portion of MAP community. Encryption can give a false sense of security, with many loopholes available for the surveillance of inexperienced users - including bitcoin transactions. Law enforcement agencies have been known to set up [[Child Pornography|"commercial" porn trading platforms]] as honey traps.
 
===Gallery of Screencaps===
 
====Modern Social Media and offshoots====
 
:''For more political/activism-oriented efforts, see [[MAP visibility on Twitter]]''
 
Following the [[Blogger censorship|blogging purge]] of the late 00s, closure of [[Boylover.net|notorious MAP communities]], and various stalled or [[Virtuous Pedophiles|successful]] attempts at setting up new communities, a younger generation of MAPs first amassed on Tumblr from the early 10s until the 2018 purge detailed by [[MAP Wiki]],<ref>[https://archive.is/9vg6I MAP Wiki on Tumblr censorship]</ref> [[Prostasia Foundation]] and others.<ref name="ProstasiaTumblr" /><ref>[https://cbjstar.co.uk/2019/03/22/virtuous-paedophile-community-of-maps-create-support-network-on-social-media/ CBJStar - "Virpeds" create community on Twitter]</ref><ref>[https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/489545.html Lolcow Farm - Hostile thread documenting MAP accounts]</ref> This led to a migration to Twitter, where MAPs had always maintained a small secondary presence as explained earlier in the article. Most MAP activity on Twitter is non-political, involving friendly contact between MAPs and their allies, much of it via private accounts. There are also large numbers of accounts limited to the pursuit of MAP sexual fiction and other taboo fantasies (gooning accounts). Searching for username-accomodative URLs [e.g. twitter.com/USERNAME* (with the asterisk)] in '''Archive.org and Archive.is''' may provide you with more information:
 
<gallery>
File:Ender.jpg|Enderphile (an early political [[NOMAP]]) was active under multiple accounts from early 2015.<ref>[https://justpaste.it/1fsml Bernie Najaran - Twitter NOMAPs]</ref>
File:Pedofriendsend.png|Reddit's r/Pedofriends in normal operation
File:Pedofriendspreclosure.png|Reddit's r/Pedofriends on the way to being closed
File:West.jpg|2017 political NOMAP discourse example
File:Anonama.jpg|Mid 2018 political account
File:Maptastic.jpg|Another account in mid 2018
File:Creed.png|An early outrage thread concerning the migration of political Tumblr MAPs to Twitter
File:LecterTwitter.png|Lecter became a popular [[anti-c]] figure on Twitter post-incursion. Went on to found [[Pediverse|NNIA]]
File:Heuvel.JPG|An author for [[Prostasia Foundation]]
File:TwitToC.png|<small>The updated Terms and Conditions of Twitter (as of Oct, 2020) would entirely prohibit the MAP Movement, if they were enforced strictly. Ironically, what followed was the slow birth of [[pro-c]] political activism on Twitter.</small>
File:Goons2.png|<small>When political messages are presented to "[[gooning]]" (taboo masturbation) accounts, they tend to get far more likes, and result in less suspensions. Agreement with these messages is debatably underpinned by sexual fantasy and deviance fetishism.</small>
File:Cake.png|A similar thread, liked by gooners
File:Goon1.png|The gooning trend continues.
File:Sexualize.jpg|More likes in 2022
File:Mnsfw.png|MNSFW megathread liked by goons
File:Nnia.png|NNIA<ref><small>Content that is typical of the more extreme fringes of the NNIA ''[[Pediverse|Fediverse]] instance'' (active from May 2020, owing its existence to Tumblr and Twitter censorship). As this is a largely self-containing instance with a predominant theme of social justice theory, it is frowned upon as unhelpful for members to question the applicability and practicality of new ideas and excessive [https://lgbtqia.fandom.com/wiki/Microlabel microlabelling].</small></ref>
File:Apto.png|Further NNIA - It is uncertain to what extent these are disruptors who the server admin tolerates
File:Elliot2.png|NNIA Moment
File:Necryssa.png|NNIA has its own culture of bizarre suspected sock accounts, and started blocking users from other instances deemed to be bigoted against them in 2023
File:Nnia2.png|<small>An example of some of the banter-tier nonsense and admin-wars seen on [[pediverse]] following misinformation (example NNIA <> Newgon)</small>
File:Mag.png|The MAP Movement psyops the insufferable assimilationist radfem media front group ''[[Gays Against Groomers]]''.<ref>[https://archive.ph/oyLMR MAPs Against Groomers Archive (minus 1200+ RT cap tweet by GAG)]</ref>
File:Adel.png|3M view transage tweet referencing adjacency to MAPs
File:Riv.png|2.2M mega-tweet by a MAP
File:Peterson02.png|[[Jordan Peterson]] and [[James Lindsay]] helping to send around 2M impressions to a pro-MAP sex-ed teacher
File:Anons.png|Worth saving for the reply
File:Zenao.png|Zena O'Brien (a pro-MAP youthlib) causes outrage after posting on Facebook
</gallery>


==Organizations==
==Organizations==
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:''See also [[MAP Movement]].''
:''See also [[MAP Movement]].''


Various organizations such as the largely dormant [[NAMBLA]] have existed or still do, as explained in the activism section of our article on the [[MAP Movement]]. [[B4U-Act]] sometimes holds conferences for MAPs and Mental Heath Professionals to meet and discuss topics. "Workgroups" for peer-support have been particularly successful in Northern Europe, with many such examples having existed in the Netherlands and Germany. [[Frans Gieles]] of [[Ipce]] has a personal history of having assisted with these groups, and an excellent knowledge of their history.
Various organizations such as the largely dormant [[NAMBLA]] have existed or still do, as explained in the activism section of our article on the [[MAP Movement]]. [[B4U-ACT]] sometimes holds conferences for MAPs and Mental Health Professionals to meet and discuss topics. "Workgroups" for peer-support have been particularly successful in Northern Europe, with many such examples having existed in the Netherlands and Germany. [[Frans Gieles]] of [[Ipce]] has a personal history of having assisted with these groups, and an excellent knowledge of their history.


==See also==
==See also==


*[[Guide To Computer Security (2022)]]
*[[:Category:Websites: MAP|Sites concerning MAPs]]
*[[:Category:Websites: MAP|Sites concerning MAPs]]
*[[Validity Policing]]
*[[Validity Policing]]
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==External links==
==External links==


*[https://map-wiki.com/index.php/Online_map_communities Anti-c MAP Wiki] - This group are collecting information from around the Tumblr era onwards - may become useful.
*[https://archive.is/9vg6I Anti-c MAP Wiki] - This group are collecting information from around the Tumblr era onwards - may become useful.
*[https://blog.mapcommunity.org/omc/map-communities OMC's List] - similar to ours, somewhat more woke/anti-c type communities and some more reference to Fediverse. Offers blogging services.
*[https://blog.mapcommunity.org/omc/map-communities OMC's List] - similar to ours, may be more geared towards younger, anti-c users (despite a large number of pro-c's in the chat, and some more reference to the Fediverse). Offers blogging services, unknown how widely available this is.
*[https://prostasia.org/blog/twitters-pedo-populism-setback-prevention/ Prostasia] - on the history of Twitter and NOMAP/Virped pioneers such as [[Ethan Edwards]] and Enderphile.
*[https://prostasia.org/blog/twitters-pedo-populism-setback-prevention/ Prostasia] - on the history of Twitter and NOMAP/Virped pioneers such as [[Ethan Edwards]] and Enderphile.


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The minor attracted community is a term that can be applied to a loose affiliation of individuals - mainly MAPs and supporters/allies. Presently, the community exists almost exclusively online, however, real-life friendships are known to exist, as do some membership organizations and support groups. Some organizations (mainly homosexual pedophiles and pederasts) had limited success in the period spanning from the mid-70s to the early 90s - maintaining contact by way of mailing lists and taking part in Gay Pride events/larger LGBT organizations.

The websites the community currently uses are generally small webforums and social networks, plus a few peer groups on larger platforms. The last few years has seen considerable diversification, for example - the use of decentralized social networking. The more established of these online communities tend to go under banners such as boylove and girllove, with others remaining generic. In some cases, relationships forged through these websites have led to real-life contacts, and even larger scale meetings and events (see IBLD or Ipce, attracting 100+ and around 10 attendees respectively), although such contact has arguably declined over the last two decades. Because of the widespread oppression of MAPs and the greater anonymity offered by the Internet, many of them feel more comfortable finding friends and confidants online than in real life. As such, the online community has grown slowly since around 1997, with sites such as BoyChat establishing themselves as important meeting places.

Internet

Most of the MAP Community's activities take place online.

Message boards

Listed, e.g. on BoyLinks

One of the most popular ways to participate in this online community is through message boards (also known as Bulletin Board System-style, or BBS-style, forums). These are websites (for example, Mu, BoyChat, BLOL,[1] GirlChat, girlloverforum.net (DE), Pedofilie (CZ),[2] Pedo24 (RU)[3] and Visions of Alice) in which posters write messages to one another. The messages remain available for long periods of time while other posters read and respond to them. These old-fashioned communities tend to have older users, more freedom of speech, less attention to rules of engagement and the users are often pro-c in some way. Virped is one exception to that rule.[4], and B4U-ACT is largely not engaged on the subject of contact.[5]

Imageboards

A primarily lolicon-focused forum with numerous self-identifying MAP members is AllTheFallen, content may vary in legality according to jurisdiction.

Fediverse

Decentralized social platforms such as Mastodon and Pleroma have seen very impressive uptake among MAPs, who communicate on shared servers.[6] Participants in decentralized networking may themselves offer up server space. These are noncommercial spaces for shared interests, and often deviate from the mainstream, so while uptake is high, visibility for activists might be poorer in this instance. Activism can still take place, although this would be more in the mold of peer support or community organizing. Popular instances are NNIA, (anti-c predominates), lolison, baraag.net and pawoo.net. The instance on which your account is hosted can block other instances, but otherwise, you can follow accounts on other instances.

Should our efforts expand within the Fediverse, the best analog for this might be the MAP infiltration of Secular-Rationalist bulletin boards that took place in the mid-late 00s. MAPs would be targeting a group that is already predisposed to realigning their way of thinking.

Modern Mainstream

Small communities, including some activism have been seen on Twitter, Tumblr,[7] Deviantart[8] and Reddit (/r/pedofriends now banned[9]) and Quora (known to be very low censorship). Members find and follow those who share their interests. On some occasions, activists have supported one another in visibility and awareness raising efforts, although some censorship is carried out. Gab is said to have carried out more pervasive censorship of MAPs/allies, despite its supposed reputation for freedom of speech. Reports concerning Patreon are mixed, but sometimes encouraging.[10][11] Instagram is often touted as a casual hangout for girllovers, although this appears to go on outside any pretence that the platform is a true haven for MAPs.[12][13] Inspired the #Pedogram hashtag.

X (Twitter)

See also: MAP visibility on Twitter.

Twitter.com, founded in 2006, has seen above-average levels of MAP visibility for most of its lifetime. In some instances, this has been because of controversies surrounding MAP communities, researchers, and MAP sympathizers present on Twitter.com. In others, MAPs or trolls have carried out sometimes elaborate hoaxes in order to gain publicity. This is perhaps surprising, given that early on in its development, Twitter even hired a former Perverted Justice volunteer as "Trust and Safety" personnel.[14] Ultimately, Twitter.com is seen as the "purest social" in concept (an open town-square for political debate), and perhaps this is what has most attracted MAPs to the medium. Over this period, MAPs and MAP activists have faced varying levels of censorship from Twitter moderation, but continue to create new accounts.

Video Sharing

YouTube carries out a lot of censorship, but appears to have large numbers of receptive commenters for most alternative points of view. The chat threads in livestreams are sometimes used by MAPs and adjacent activists. Occasional videos from "normies" have crossed the line and led to controversies and comment thread blow-ups.

One YT alternative is FreeSpeechTube, founded (but no-longer managed) by Norbert de Jonge, a well known Dutch MAP and civil liberties activist. It has recently been re-created as a PeerTube (federated) site.

Real-time chat

Another common way of interacting with the online community is via real-time chat services such as that offered by websites such as LifeLine, linked to from BoyChat, and MSC - which is supported financially by Prostasia Foundation. Open MAP is another alternative[15], and Pedofilie (NL).[16] These communities have the advantage of permitting instant response and reaction to one's communications, with the disadvantage of being fleetingly ephemeral with regards to their content. Many MAPs host their own servers, on which chat clients can be uploaded.

Discord is a popular (proprietary) platform that allows for groups and direct chats, but since they run their own servers, censorious moderators will always take action if MAPs are identified on their platform. It should also not be relied on for any serious privacy.

Matrix is a platform that offers some privacy protections - and there are many MAP groups on this platform.

IRC, along with Usenet, was the core of the online boylove community before the rise in popularity of BL message boards.

Blogs

Blogging used to be a considerable part of the minor attracted community, but a purge took place in the summer of 2007 after blogging on free platforms was widely adopted. A few individuals then banded together to form larger groups (such as ours), buying their own bandwidth and starting afresh. Others retreated to Bulletin boards. Some high-profile MAPs such as Thomas O'Carroll continue the blogging tradition.

Finding blog hosting doesn't appear to be a struggle for MAPs at this time. Wordpress is an option, but has censored even anti-c members of our community. OMC] offers the service.

Phone Messenger apps

Private messenger apps are also used. These messaging apps may have varying levels of decentralization and encryption, meaning that adoption has not been focused on any one platform known at the time of writing. Telegram - a multi-device app is one such example, and has been used by MAPs, despite concerns surrounding its security. Wickr (from Amazon) is also said to be very popular among MAPs who engage in illicit activity ("taboo" and "perv" keyphrases) - although the extent to which this is media hype is unknown. NBC carried out an "investigation" into Wickr in 2022.[17]

Email services

Again, these have varying levels of security and may or may not be used with Tor or VPNs. Tutanota and Protonmail are popular free email solutions among MAPs, as is DNMX.org.

Usenet

Usenet, often simply referred to as "newsgroups" arguably spawned the predecessors of the Online MAP community. IRC was also a spawning ground of the movement as we know it today, but Usenet came first and probably had a much larger user base. Newsgroups are essentially threaded collections of messages similar to email. The messages are formatted according the NNTP protocol. Usenet is typically accessed with a specialized "newsreader" although some HTTP sites allow web access to some groups. alt.support.boy-lovers was a somewhat popular newsgroup in the mid 1990s.

Dark Web

The encrypted Dark Web is used for trading borderline or illegal material, and is thus seen as necessarily separate from the visible/clear web portion of MAP community. Encryption can give a false sense of security, with many loopholes available for the surveillance of inexperienced users - including bitcoin transactions. Law enforcement agencies have been known to set up "commercial" porn trading platforms as honey traps.

Gallery of Screencaps

Modern Social Media and offshoots

For more political/activism-oriented efforts, see MAP visibility on Twitter

Following the blogging purge of the late 00s, closure of notorious MAP communities, and various stalled or successful attempts at setting up new communities, a younger generation of MAPs first amassed on Tumblr from the early 10s until the 2018 purge detailed by MAP Wiki,[18] Prostasia Foundation and others.[7][19][20] This led to a migration to Twitter, where MAPs had always maintained a small secondary presence as explained earlier in the article. Most MAP activity on Twitter is non-political, involving friendly contact between MAPs and their allies, much of it via private accounts. There are also large numbers of accounts limited to the pursuit of MAP sexual fiction and other taboo fantasies (gooning accounts). Searching for username-accomodative URLs [e.g. twitter.com/USERNAME* (with the asterisk)] in Archive.org and Archive.is may provide you with more information:

  • Enderphile (an early political NOMAP) was active under multiple accounts from early 2015.[21]
    Enderphile (an early political NOMAP) was active under multiple accounts from early 2015.[21]
  • Reddit's r/Pedofriends in normal operation
    Reddit's r/Pedofriends in normal operation
  • Reddit's r/Pedofriends on the way to being closed
    Reddit's r/Pedofriends on the way to being closed
  • 2017 political NOMAP discourse example
    2017 political NOMAP discourse example
  • Mid 2018 political account
    Mid 2018 political account
  • Another account in mid 2018
    Another account in mid 2018
  • An early outrage thread concerning the migration of political Tumblr MAPs to Twitter
    An early outrage thread concerning the migration of political Tumblr MAPs to Twitter
  • Lecter became a popular anti-c figure on Twitter post-incursion. Went on to found NNIA
    Lecter became a popular anti-c figure on Twitter post-incursion. Went on to found NNIA
  • An author for Prostasia Foundation
    An author for Prostasia Foundation
  • The updated Terms and Conditions of Twitter (as of Oct, 2020) would entirely prohibit the MAP Movement, if they were enforced strictly. Ironically, what followed was the slow birth of pro-c political activism on Twitter.
    The updated Terms and Conditions of Twitter (as of Oct, 2020) would entirely prohibit the MAP Movement, if they were enforced strictly. Ironically, what followed was the slow birth of pro-c political activism on Twitter.
  • When political messages are presented to "gooning" (taboo masturbation) accounts, they tend to get far more likes, and result in less suspensions. Agreement with these messages is debatably underpinned by sexual fantasy and deviance fetishism.
    When political messages are presented to "gooning" (taboo masturbation) accounts, they tend to get far more likes, and result in less suspensions. Agreement with these messages is debatably underpinned by sexual fantasy and deviance fetishism.
  • A similar thread, liked by gooners
    A similar thread, liked by gooners
  • The gooning trend continues.
    The gooning trend continues.
  • More likes in 2022
    More likes in 2022
  • MNSFW megathread liked by goons
    MNSFW megathread liked by goons
  • NNIA[22]
    NNIA[22]
  • Further NNIA - It is uncertain to what extent these are disruptors who the server admin tolerates
    Further NNIA - It is uncertain to what extent these are disruptors who the server admin tolerates
  • NNIA Moment
    NNIA Moment
  • NNIA has its own culture of bizarre suspected sock accounts, and started blocking users from other instances deemed to be bigoted against them in 2023
    NNIA has its own culture of bizarre suspected sock accounts, and started blocking users from other instances deemed to be bigoted against them in 2023
  • An example of some of the banter-tier nonsense and admin-wars seen on pediverse following misinformation (example NNIA <> Newgon)
    An example of some of the banter-tier nonsense and admin-wars seen on pediverse following misinformation (example NNIA <> Newgon)
  • The MAP Movement psyops the insufferable assimilationist radfem media front group Gays Against Groomers.[23]
    The MAP Movement psyops the insufferable assimilationist radfem media front group Gays Against Groomers.[23]
  • 3M view transage tweet referencing adjacency to MAPs
    3M view transage tweet referencing adjacency to MAPs
  • 2.2M mega-tweet by a MAP
    2.2M mega-tweet by a MAP
  • Jordan Peterson and James Lindsay helping to send around 2M impressions to a pro-MAP sex-ed teacher
    Jordan Peterson and James Lindsay helping to send around 2M impressions to a pro-MAP sex-ed teacher
  • Worth saving for the reply
    Worth saving for the reply
  • Zena O'Brien (a pro-MAP youthlib) causes outrage after posting on Facebook
    Zena O'Brien (a pro-MAP youthlib) causes outrage after posting on Facebook

Organizations

See also MAP Movement.

Various organizations such as the largely dormant NAMBLA have existed or still do, as explained in the activism section of our article on the MAP Movement. B4U-ACT sometimes holds conferences for MAPs and Mental Health Professionals to meet and discuss topics. "Workgroups" for peer-support have been particularly successful in Northern Europe, with many such examples having existed in the Netherlands and Germany. Frans Gieles of Ipce has a personal history of having assisted with these groups, and an excellent knowledge of their history.

See also

External links

  • Anti-c MAP Wiki - This group are collecting information from around the Tumblr era onwards - may become useful.
  • OMC's List - similar to ours, may be more geared towards younger, anti-c users (despite a large number of pro-c's in the chat, and some more reference to the Fediverse). Offers blogging services, unknown how widely available this is.
  • Prostasia - on the history of Twitter and NOMAP/Virped pioneers such as Ethan Edwards and Enderphile.

References

  1. ↑ https://boylandonline.com/
  2. ↑ https://pedofilie-info.cz/
  3. ↑ Pedo24 Russian Virped type site
  4. ↑ https://support.virped.org/forums/
  5. ↑ https://www.b4uact.org/attracted-to-minors/peer-support/
  6. ↑ https://fediverse.party/
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 Tumblr is censoring prevention messages and amplifying harmful ones: Prostasia
  8. ↑ Deviantart profiles: 1, 2, 3
  9. ↑ Vocativ story about Reddit's pedofriends shutdown, and see archives for more examples of pedofriends)
  10. ↑ Reduxx - Patreon controversy
  11. ↑ Patreon response to allegations
  12. ↑ From HTOC: "The parents running these “Mom Monitored” accounts are obviously aware that a sizable portion of their audience includes adults with a sexual interest in their daughters. While explicit messages are blocked and reported, it is hardly a mystery what a cluster of flame emojis is getting at. For MAPs who are regularly despised and verbally assaulted on other major social media platforms, Instagram is a breath of fresh air. It’s like the inverse of Reddit (post- r/jailbait era of course) and Youtube. Certainly there are haters and vigilantes out to out, but they are often ratioed and drowned out in a sea of positivity and compliments put forth by girl lovers. Plus one can’t help but wonder what these white knights are doing on these profiles *themselves*, ya know?"
  13. ↑ Unpaywalled WSJ article on Instagram MAPs
  14. ↑ Gawker: How the Weirdos Behind 'To Catch a Predator' Blew $1.2 Million and Evil-Unveiled: The BlogSpot Year…
  15. ↑ Open MAP Community
  16. ↑ Pedofilie (NL)
  17. ↑ NBC "Investigates" Wickr and MAPs
  18. ↑ MAP Wiki on Tumblr censorship
  19. ↑ CBJStar - "Virpeds" create community on Twitter
  20. ↑ Lolcow Farm - Hostile thread documenting MAP accounts
  21. ↑ Bernie Najaran - Twitter NOMAPs
  22. ↑ Content that is typical of the more extreme fringes of the NNIA Fediverse instance (active from May 2020, owing its existence to Tumblr and Twitter censorship). As this is a largely self-containing instance with a predominant theme of social justice theory, it is frowned upon as unhelpful for members to question the applicability and practicality of new ideas and excessive microlabelling.
  23. ↑ MAPs Against Groomers Archive (minus 1200+ RT cap tweet by GAG)
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